I think. Which gets me in trouble 9 times out of 10. Would probably like one graded toned Morgan for a novelty piece in my collection but I really like the pure whites if I had my druthers. Just my opinion. Thanks for the tutorial Daniel. Knowledge is power. God Bless.
A couple tips I can add Daniel, I know it was a quick overview not meant to be totally comprehensive... Naturally toned coins rarely have toning that continues smoothly across the devices. Sometimes a dead giveaway regarding artificial toning is when the colors and toning go uninterrupted with almost no disruptions right over the devices. Also when the colors of the toning are the wrong progression of colors that are shown as color charts on those excellent websites you showed. Great video again sir thank you!
This is what I was asking about in your public coin forum. I got some great responses to my question, but a picture is worth a thousand words. Your info has helped me tremendously. Thank you very much.
I love this topic. Thank you, Daniel. Natural to me always appears to have more dimensionality in the coloring. In general, natural coloring is less severe with more gradual transitions between different colors. Organic vs. "Cartoonish." Those are great articles, very informative. Thanks again.
I have spent two days trying to figure out where this video was this is a very education video the other web site is what I needed thanks one of your best videos you have made
You did a lot better job than I could my friend! I shy away from toned coins. I have some in the yellow envelopes that look gold & I have some in the blue box proofs that look purple. I know those are natural. Awesome video thanks for Sharing my friend
Thank you so much for this video! I’ve been looking for info on this topic. This was super helpful! One thing I noticed about artificially toned coins is that most of them are cleaned. Sometimes crazy polished. IDK, maybe some of the cleaning solution artificially toned them? Or maybe the opposite, like the artificial toning looks cleaned to me, or the chemical to tone the coin also cleans it.
Thanks Daniel. I love, love, love naturally toned Morgans. There's something vintage about them that is really special. On the other hand, artificially toned coins don't appeal to me at all. Typically (not always) their coloring is more severe and, to me, just looks unnatural. Thank you for this video. I'm going to read through those resources you provided. Andy
Daniel, wow, what an amazing PL coin! Thank you for sharing this information. I have doubts about mine, so as you suggest, I will go to your community that has already helped me with some coin, that's a very good place to be! Have a great day!
I've shared that I just inherited my father-in-law's coins here before. His mother used to own a clothing store out west. Every time she got silver, into a pot it would go. Some of them we very choice BU. She took those and put them into colored socks. Then she placed them into a leather purse. It went to an oilfield town where dad lived. There, they transformed over 50 years into some spectacular toned coins. I sent a 1964-D Washington quarter in to NGC. Came back an MS 65. It is just beautiful. I'll never sell any of them. I'll start on the Benjamin halves next. WHOA!
Just back to say that after watching this video and going over my collection and I can really see what you are saying about a coin that has natural toning to it. I had to sub after this 👍
I have artificially toned coins which I really like and I have naturally told coins which I really like but I know the difference and I hope this helps a lot of people
As usual Daniel, you hit it out of the park for me. I hadn't thought about toned coins, guess I was single minded toward blast white as the higher quality of coins. I'll be looking out for the toned coins now. Thanks again 👍
Some of those toned coins do have lots of eye appeal; however, several of them with a lots of coolness (blue/purple/green) aren’t not my favorites. I wonder how many, if any, were part of a single collection at one time. Naturally toned coins I think would require many years in a specific environment to become toned like those you have. Artificially toned coins can be created in day. It doesn’t matter much that they’re naturally toned or not if one likes that degree of toning. This is the kind of video people may not usually seek for information until they have that one coin that they can’t quite let go of because of its unusual beauty. Thanks for being that guy who gives us what we need to know when we might not know that we need to know. 😎 Love it my friend. 👍🏽
I've read about sellers who "gas" the coins while they are inside slabs. Slabs are not airtight unless they are PCGS Gold Shield slabs (at least, as far as I'm aware). I've bought maybe fifty Morgan dollars in the old soapbox holders and ALL of them have a golden brown tone around the edge, though it's not unattractive. Apparently those slabs are not inert.
I have a few old whitman books full of worn (VG20 and below) morgans and they'll tone up like some you showed. I know they're not artificial, because they've been in those books since the 1950s (My Grandpa's). Good video. I always enjoy your shares
I forgot where I learned it, but artificially toned coins can look for more colors being "painted" on top rather than coming from the coin itself. One thing to look for would be the cartwheel effect that would still exist on a toned unc or possibly some AU Morgans. Artificially toning coins if they look good enough and are sold disclaiming their artificial toning could be considered art. This would go along with hobo nickles looking nice and, in many cases, be worth a lot more than the nickel would be on its own. The coins with a more "questionable" color look to them, I would try to send through PCGS's restoration services. In some cases certain toning can be removed if it's questionable whether its real or not and the coin still receive a numeric grade. I know with some artificially toned coins they just won't touch. On the note of 'Hobo' nickles, I believe if you go to ANA's summer camp, there is a part where you learn how to make those. Not sure if it still is but that used to be part of the camp. Thanks for another video. This has me wanting to go pull out an 1888-S I bought raw and kind of get a better idea if it's real toning or not, kind of seems questionable, I may send in to have restoration done on it with another Morgan.
I thought about buying some cheaper uncirculated Morgan's and putting them in a album to see if they end up toning nice. Usually uncirculated Morgan's I keep in airtites so putting them in a album is something new for me because I'm so OSD about keeping morgan dollars protected even on most of my circulated ones I keep in airtites same with my 1964 and back half dollars I keep in airtites. I buy a bunch of airtites at a time and get a really good deal on them so I use them on most of my nice coins.
GSA morgans were store in canvas bags in vault for 90 years and some reacted /toned beautifully from bags but in the 70's everyone wanted blast white coins. go figure. I owned many GSA toned dollar but sold them. :(
My set of Franklins have most regular and a third mirror finish, all in an alblum, the mirror finish all toned and the ms just a little brown on the rim.
Great video 👍. I get rather suspicious of eBay sellers that sell toned coins. Take a look at what other items that person is selling. There are a few sellers who sell nothing but toned coins. Pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters ect... Every coin they have is toned. It only takes a few seconds with a small torch to tone a coin. There are other ways as well. I am not even tempted slightly to ever purchase any of these fake toned coins being sold on eBay. Just to be clear I am not talking about naturally tarnished coins. Just the ones that have the rainbow type of toning.
I had a false toned morgan and it was silver when I got it and I didn't like it much and it was stored in different places over years and the front toned complete and reverse maybe half way but I didn't try to turn it colored. ANACS thought different.
I'm not making an argument but my father's Left behind goods included three Liberty halves that all were toned when I found them amongst the other coins inside of an envelope inside of a cardboard box inside of Dad's safe. The brilliance of these three sisters looks a lot like what you said are fake tones. My dad was not a coin collector he collected just pocket silver and he was not in any particular sense a coin collector at all. He didn't go to coin shows or anything he took stuff out of his pockets that was silver and threw it in a jar over the years and eventually they ended up being accounted for put into envelopes and then bequeathed.
@@jeffw1267 most I can say are artificial in the 2 by 2, but I have seen some graded by PCGS and NGC that I was sure were artificial. That is why I don't care for toned coins. But that is me.
I agree with all your calls on the coins you showed. Except all that blue you liked I thought was ugly. I consider artificially-colored coins "numismatic pornography." But that's just me. Good job on this and all your videos.
Thanks Daniel. It is a tough subject. Me, I like the rim areas around Morgans toned but pretty much that's it. The 1881 at 7:40 in the video, I see where there is no toning in the crevasses of the hair. You mentioned it was artificial toning. Wouldn't natural toning, tone those hair crevasses too?
I have a toned dollar i bought. It seems too "golden" in tone. With a touch of orange. No part of the peace dollar is white. Good chance its been artificially toned? The dealer said he bought it that way
You're right @ 4:25. That does look bad. One of those things where once you see it you will never be able to un-see it. Looks like they made it to be centered between the O and the $1 instead of with the label as a whole. Maybe a newbie. Thanks for the video. I was wanting to buy a toned 1961 quarter off Ebay but since I've seen your video I'm reconsidering because I'm thinking now it's artificial, so thank you!
I see lots of sp# like sp65 Canadian silver dollars from usually the 1970s that are on NFC’s and pcgs holders. Did those types tone more due to the the lesser silver amount? Or because the mint made me with some extra chemicals? People try to get over $100 each for but they have like 8 bucks in silver.
how do you deal with a sellet on EBAY that sells a coin and when you get it and start looking at it and the blackening finish comes off on your gloves and you question them about it and they accuse you of cleaning it right off the bat?
I have layed especially silver coins out not knowing on glass and plastic hefty plates knowing nothing about the difference and alot of them look the same
@@dalestoner2928 I linked the articles, sometimes you can't tell or they're highly debatable. I am sure a good chemist could create some toners but not all silver coins tone the same.
I am not sure what you mean by "In all fairness...". I am not being unfair or implying that I can determine the difference between AT and NT 100% of the time. I even state this in the video. So in all fairness, please pay close attention to my disclaimers. Also, if you want to learn the real science of coin toning then read all of this www.jhonecash.com/coins/tonedmorgans.asp I also answered your other misguided question. The value of something has nothing to do with the science that causes the toning. Any other object would be considered damaged if the same oxidation occurred to the metal that made it up. Damage doesn't mean not valuable. Although there's more people that do not want toned coins, bright white coins are chosen 8 out of 10 times.
Artificially toned "Damaged" Cleaned..... So making a coin look different is Manipulating it to increase the value. I'd rather then just go ahead and "Re-dip" them and have a uniform looking cleaned coin. It's obvious Morgen dollars were the focus of dipping, They for the most part were MS coming right out of the bank bags.... Dipping a lower grade was too obvious.
Nope, that is not true either. There's no such thing as artificially toned, all toning is a natural chemical reaction. So you must go with intentional or unintentional or actually define what toned each coin. This is scientific fact not an opinion.
THAT'S PRETTY PATHETIC THAT PCGS PUT A LABEL ON THAT NUMISMATIC MASTERPIECE WITH THE LETTERING OFF CENTER. POOR JOB ON THEIR PART. I LIKE NGC HOLDERS BETTER ANYWAY.
Of all the coins you showed, every single one was in your opinion, was artificially toned. No reasons, based on color transitions, or the spotting, just pure subjective analysis that seems blatantly one-sided. No examples of naturally toned? How about a coin that has no toning? Then it was dipped. Is there such a thing as naturally toned? If you take an old coin bag, put a Morgan in it, and leave it for 20 years is that artificial or natural? What's going on here, is these collectors have lost some control, over how they deem a coin's value should be determined. Some of their coins are being usurped by lesser graded coins that have more eye-appeal and what's more to the point, they are available to be purchased. Therefore, any coin (raw or without a holder) in their eye that has toning is artificially toned, unless it has been slabbed by NGC or PCGS. I guarantee, if you took an NGC or PCGS slabbed toned Morgan out of it's holder and presented it as raw... all of the collectors would say it was artificially toned. All of them. Outwardly. Even the one that calls themself the "Local Artificially Toned Enthusiast" will say it's unattractive. All the reasons they give for a coin being naturally toned are the same reasons that can make them artificially toned. A long time ago, I went into a coin shop, I showed the owner a Morgan of mine that I had taken out of it's holder because I was curious. He took a minute to look at it. Said it was very well struck, no scuffs or blemishes on the cheeks or chest. He graded it a 65 proof-like. You know what he offered me even though I said I wasn't selling it? He offered me melt value. He wasn't joking, even though he laughed. What's funny to him is, had I said "OK", he would have taken that coin for some $19 and made thousands. He was holding a Class III Branch Mint Proof and offered me melt value. That says it all.
This is a huge problem in this hobby, people have a bad experience then begin questioning everyone and everything instead of using the resources I provided with this video. I do show a NT coin and you can go to the Morgan Toning page shown and learn all about how and why and what toned coins look like. Videos are never comprehensive enough and why we still have books and websites. Forget what you think you know and go to Cash's website shown. I do this for a living so I have to know NT from AT and sometimes there is a fine line, but when profit is involved then I err on the side of caution.
Wtf are these guys doing to there coins just destroying history and coins what a waste of time and there ugly why have you Evan bought them hope you haven waste of money
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I think. Which gets me in trouble 9 times out of 10. Would probably like one graded toned Morgan for a novelty piece in my collection but I really like the pure whites if I had my druthers. Just my opinion. Thanks for the tutorial Daniel. Knowledge is power. God Bless.
A couple tips I can add Daniel, I know it was a quick overview not meant to be totally comprehensive...
Naturally toned coins rarely have toning that continues smoothly across the devices. Sometimes a dead giveaway regarding artificial toning is when the colors and toning go uninterrupted with almost no disruptions right over the devices.
Also when the colors of the toning are the wrong progression of colors that are shown as color charts on those excellent websites you showed.
Great video again sir thank you!
This is what I was asking about in your public coin forum. I got some great responses to my question, but a picture is worth a thousand words. Your info has helped me tremendously. Thank you very much.
Going through my pennies today found a 1951d toned beautiful blues front and black. I'm so excited
I love this topic. Thank you, Daniel. Natural to me always appears to have more dimensionality in the coloring. In general, natural coloring is less severe with more gradual transitions between different colors. Organic vs. "Cartoonish." Those are great articles, very informative. Thanks again.
I have spent two days trying to figure out where this video was this is a very education video the other web site is what I needed thanks one of your best videos you have made
You did a lot better job than I could my friend! I shy away from toned coins. I have some in the yellow envelopes that look gold & I have some in the blue box proofs that look purple. I know those are natural. Awesome video thanks for Sharing my friend
Thanks 👍
As always great info Daniel.Great job.I don't care for toned coins,they are damaged coins.Give me blast white any day.
I like toned Morgans they just look really cool.
Thank you so much for this video! I’ve been looking for info on this topic. This was super helpful!
One thing I noticed about artificially toned coins is that most of them are cleaned. Sometimes crazy polished. IDK, maybe some of the cleaning solution artificially toned them? Or maybe the opposite, like the artificial toning looks cleaned to me, or the chemical to tone the coin also cleans it.
Thanks Daniel. I love, love, love naturally toned Morgans. There's something vintage about them that is really special. On the other hand, artificially toned coins don't appeal to me at all. Typically (not always) their coloring is more severe and, to me, just looks unnatural. Thank you for this video. I'm going to read through those resources you provided. Andy
Daniel, wow, what an amazing PL coin!
Thank you for sharing this information. I have doubts about mine, so as you suggest, I will go to your community that has already helped me with some coin, that's a very good place to be! Have a great day!
My pleasure!
I've shared that I just inherited my father-in-law's coins here before. His mother used to own a clothing store out west. Every time she got silver, into a pot it would go. Some of them we very choice BU. She took those and put them into colored socks. Then she placed them into a leather purse. It went to an oilfield town where dad lived. There, they transformed over 50 years into some spectacular toned coins. I sent a 1964-D Washington quarter in to NGC. Came back an MS 65. It is just beautiful. I'll never sell any of them. I'll start on the Benjamin halves next. WHOA!
I dont know how you do it. I was just looking at toned morgans. Great information boss.
Glad to help
Thanks for sharing, my friend 👍
I have been expanding my Morgan's toner collection lately. This is very useful information 😃
Good Afternoon Daniel!!🥤 The day one stops learning is the day one starts dying!!
tone morgan dollars are cool
Solid video thanks for the breakdown of AF Toning and Natural toning
Just back to say that after watching this video and going over my collection and I can really see what you are saying about a coin that has natural toning to it. I had to sub after this 👍
Beautiful coins. Thank you for my last purchase, the bugs bunny Franklin went into my Dansco Type set Still the BEST packaging of any one I buy from.
You're welcome and thank you!
I have artificially toned coins which I really like and I have naturally told coins which I really like but I know the difference and I hope this helps a lot of people
I like all coins natural and artificial toned.
As usual Daniel, you hit it out of the park for me. I hadn't thought about toned coins, guess I was single minded toward blast white as the higher quality of coins. I'll be looking out for the toned coins now. Thanks again 👍
Man I think Toned coins are so beautiful
Some of those toned coins do have lots of eye appeal; however, several of them with a lots of coolness (blue/purple/green) aren’t not my favorites.
I wonder how many, if any, were part of a single collection at one time. Naturally toned coins I think would require many years in a specific environment to become toned like those you have. Artificially toned coins can be created in day. It doesn’t matter much that they’re naturally toned or not if one likes that degree of toning.
This is the kind of video people may not usually seek for information until they have that one coin that they can’t quite let go of because of its unusual beauty.
Thanks for being that guy who gives us what we need to know when we might not know that we need to know. 😎
Love it my friend. 👍🏽
Excellent video, I've seen some a one of the local Lcs. Paying attention to detail is key. I called it out and they agreed.
Very informative video Daniel Thank you
have a great day
I've read about sellers who "gas" the coins while they are inside slabs. Slabs are not airtight unless they are PCGS Gold Shield slabs (at least, as far as I'm aware). I've bought maybe fifty Morgan dollars in the old soapbox holders and ALL of them have a golden brown tone around the edge, though it's not unattractive. Apparently those slabs are not inert.
Part of why they have online imaging now I suppose.
You like toned Morgans, check out my 1886. It’s a sweet crescent toner.
I have a few old whitman books full of worn (VG20 and below) morgans and they'll tone up like some you showed. I know they're not artificial, because they've been in those books since the 1950s (My Grandpa's). Good video. I always enjoy your shares
All A.T. , thanks for your input on toning..
Great video Daniel . Thank you for the very valuable information .
Awesome information thanks for spending so much time explaining.
Watching 👀
I forgot where I learned it, but artificially toned coins can look for more colors being "painted" on top rather than coming from the coin itself. One thing to look for would be the cartwheel effect that would still exist on a toned unc or possibly some AU Morgans. Artificially toning coins if they look good enough and are sold disclaiming their artificial toning could be considered art. This would go along with hobo nickles looking nice and, in many cases, be worth a lot more than the nickel would be on its own.
The coins with a more "questionable" color look to them, I would try to send through PCGS's restoration services. In some cases certain toning can be removed if it's questionable whether its real or not and the coin still receive a numeric grade. I know with some artificially toned coins they just won't touch.
On the note of 'Hobo' nickles, I believe if you go to ANA's summer camp, there is a part where you learn how to make those. Not sure if it still is but that used to be part of the camp.
Thanks for another video. This has me wanting to go pull out an 1888-S I bought raw and kind of get a better idea if it's real toning or not, kind of seems questionable, I may send in to have restoration done on it with another Morgan.
I thought about buying some cheaper uncirculated Morgan's and putting them in a album to see if they end up toning nice. Usually uncirculated Morgan's I keep in airtites so putting them in a album is something new for me because I'm so OSD about keeping morgan dollars protected even on most of my circulated ones I keep in airtites same with my 1964 and back half dollars I keep in airtites. I buy a bunch of airtites at a time and get a really good deal on them so I use them on most of my nice coins.
GSA morgans were store in canvas bags in vault for 90 years and some reacted /toned beautifully from bags but in the 70's everyone wanted blast white coins. go figure. I owned many GSA toned dollar but sold them. :(
Great information.
Great video!
My set of Franklins have most regular and a third mirror finish, all in an alblum, the mirror finish all toned and the ms just a little brown on the rim.
Great video 👍. I get rather suspicious of eBay sellers that sell toned coins. Take a look at what other items that person is selling. There are a few sellers who sell nothing but toned coins. Pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters ect... Every coin they have is toned. It only takes a few seconds with a small torch to tone a coin. There are other ways as well. I am not even tempted slightly to ever purchase any of these fake toned coins being sold on eBay. Just to be clear I am not talking about naturally tarnished coins. Just the ones that have the rainbow type of toning.
Thanks for the info, keep up the good work.
Wonderful
Great show. I have quite a few. I will check those sites. I got mine 30 years ago. Those owners are all croked.
That was pretty damn good, thanks Daniel
Great video I love toned coins
I had a false toned morgan and it was silver when I got it and I didn't like it much and it was stored in different places over years and the front toned complete and reverse maybe half way but I didn't try to turn it colored. ANACS thought different.
Thank you for your insight!
Love this video
I'm not making an argument but my father's Left behind goods included three Liberty halves that all were toned when I found them amongst the other coins inside of an envelope inside of a cardboard box inside of Dad's safe. The brilliance of these three sisters looks a lot like what you said are fake tones. My dad was not a coin collector he collected just pocket silver and he was not in any particular sense a coin collector at all. He didn't go to coin shows or anything he took stuff out of his pockets that was silver and threw it in a jar over the years and eventually they ended up being accounted for put into envelopes and then bequeathed.
i maybe have just a few of them but not many .i enjoyed your video here from grove city ohio
Nice references ty
I can't be 100% sure, I need it graded by a company to make sure no artificial. Truth
There are coins in straight-graded holders that I believe are artificially toned, but that day's grader thought otherwise.
@@jeffw1267 most I can say are artificial in the 2 by 2, but I have seen some graded by PCGS and NGC that I was sure were artificial. That is why I don't care for toned coins. But that is me.
Thanks for the video......
I agree with all your calls on the coins you showed. Except all that blue you liked I thought was ugly. I consider artificially-colored coins "numismatic pornography." But that's just me. Good job on this and all your videos.
I like the blue but pink looks so much prettier imo
Thanks Daniel. It is a tough subject. Me, I like the rim areas around Morgans toned but pretty much that's it. The 1881 at 7:40 in the video, I see where there is no toning in the crevasses of the hair. You mentioned it was artificial toning. Wouldn't natural toning, tone those hair crevasses too?
Like I said I am not always correct on these, some are just too close.
I have a toned dollar i bought. It seems too "golden" in tone. With a touch of orange. No part of the peace dollar is white. Good chance its been artificially toned? The dealer said he bought it that way
You're right @ 4:25. That does look bad. One of those things where once you see it you will never be able to un-see it. Looks like they made it to be centered between the O and the $1 instead of with the label as a whole. Maybe a newbie. Thanks for the video. I was wanting to buy a toned 1961 quarter off Ebay but since I've seen your video I'm reconsidering because I'm thinking now it's artificial, so thank you!
Great vid. What type of envelope are these coins in? Thanks, Toney
I see lots of sp# like sp65 Canadian silver dollars from usually the 1970s that are on NFC’s and pcgs holders. Did those types tone more due to the the lesser silver amount? Or because the mint made me with some extra chemicals? People try to get over $100 each for but they have like 8 bucks in silver.
Yes, Mike Kittle Coins had a lot of those a few years ago that he has now sold. Those Canadian Silver coins from the 70’s toned a lot.
@@TruthLivesNow thanks for the heads up
Thank you for the info
J-hon is pronounced like "JOHN". Haha His nickname is pronounced like "JOHNNY CASH". Jhon E Cash...
I don't consider toning that comes from paper bank wraps, 2 x 2 flips, or Dansco albums "artificial toning". And shame on NGC or PCGS if they do.
How can you tell Natural or artificial toning?
That's easy.
It's stamped on the side of the coin. 🤔
I will take either one. I'm not paying more for it.
Then you don't get one.
With pennies nickels and the newer compositions are easier to tone and make them eye appealing
how do you deal with a sellet on EBAY that sells a coin and when you get it and start looking at it and the blackening finish comes off on your gloves and you question them about it and they accuse you of cleaning it right off the bat?
Use our coinhelpu community for coin help coinauctionshelp.com/welcome-to-coinhelpu-community/
Could you do a video of the marks you’re talking about
What marks?
Buy PCGS or NGC certified toners . Don't take a chance ..
I have layed especially silver coins out not knowing on glass and plastic hefty plates knowing nothing about the difference and alot of them look the same
Do you have an eBay store? I purchased a couple very nice toned mercury dimes I thought were pretty and I wondered if they had been 'messed' with....
He has a wonderful website website. Check it out if you can. He also has a community where you can talk to others, and get valuable information
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I use pas. Do my easter eggs and Morgans at the same time. Just kidding.
Couldn't you probably naturally tone a Morgan using sunlight and humidity from the sun?
Do this same on other coins . I have perfect examples
It's a shame to see so many coins that people ruin by cleaning or trying to tone them.
Johnny Cash?
If both are toned with the same chemical, how can one be artificial? ;)
Chemical toning is AT, it’s chemical reaction not chemically induced but natural oxidation.
Maybe one was outdoors and the other was indoors. :) Hello SPEG.
@@dalestoner2928 I linked the articles, sometimes you can't tell or they're highly debatable. I am sure a good chemist could create some toners but not all silver coins tone the same.
@@CoinHELPu Going to check it out. I always liked what they call Bulls Eye toning.
@@dalestoner2928 hey Dale!
Spammer in comments. Beware.
He’s a goner 😂
@@lincolncentralcoins1452 Good.
Collars?!
Great video!
In all fairness, aren't you guessing?
I am not sure what you mean by "In all fairness...". I am not being unfair or implying that I can determine the difference between AT and NT 100% of the time. I even state this in the video. So in all fairness, please pay close attention to my disclaimers. Also, if you want to learn the real science of coin toning then read all of this www.jhonecash.com/coins/tonedmorgans.asp
I also answered your other misguided question. The value of something has nothing to do with the science that causes the toning. Any other object would be considered damaged if the same oxidation occurred to the metal that made it up. Damage doesn't mean not valuable. Although there's more people that do not want toned coins, bright white coins are chosen 8 out of 10 times.
Artificially toned "Damaged" Cleaned..... So making a coin look different is Manipulating it to increase the value. I'd rather then just go ahead and "Re-dip" them and have a uniform looking cleaned coin. It's obvious Morgen dollars were the focus of dipping, They for the most part were MS coming right out of the bank bags.... Dipping a lower grade was too obvious.
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Well, I guess every single one was artificially toned 😂😂😂😂
Nope, that is not true either. There's no such thing as artificially toned, all toning is a natural chemical reaction. So you must go with intentional or unintentional or actually define what toned each coin. This is scientific fact not an opinion.
Need to slow down when showing the coins
You can pause it.
How about we just send our coins to you and let you grade them for us .... I trust you more than I do them ......
No for real ... I could tell folks my coin is a Daniel68 or a Daniel69 or if i'm lucky a Daniel70
Thanks but I don't offer that service.
THAT'S PRETTY PATHETIC THAT PCGS PUT A LABEL ON THAT NUMISMATIC MASTERPIECE WITH THE LETTERING OFF CENTER. POOR JOB ON THEIR PART.
I LIKE NGC HOLDERS BETTER ANYWAY.
Of all the coins you showed, every single one was in your opinion, was artificially toned.
No reasons, based on color transitions, or the spotting, just pure subjective analysis that seems blatantly one-sided.
No examples of naturally toned?
How about a coin that has no toning?
Then it was dipped.
Is there such a thing as naturally toned?
If you take an old coin bag, put a Morgan in it, and leave it for 20 years is that artificial or natural?
What's going on here, is these collectors have lost some control, over how they deem a coin's value should be determined.
Some of their coins are being usurped by lesser graded coins that have more eye-appeal and what's more to the point, they are available to be purchased.
Therefore, any coin (raw or without a holder) in their eye that has toning is artificially toned, unless it has been slabbed by NGC or PCGS.
I guarantee, if you took an NGC or PCGS slabbed toned Morgan out of it's holder and presented it as raw... all of the collectors would say it was artificially toned.
All of them. Outwardly.
Even the one that calls themself the "Local Artificially Toned Enthusiast" will say it's unattractive.
All the reasons they give for a coin being naturally toned are the same reasons that can make them artificially toned.
A long time ago, I went into a coin shop, I showed the owner a Morgan of mine that I had taken out of it's holder because I was curious.
He took a minute to look at it.
Said it was very well struck, no scuffs or blemishes on the cheeks or chest.
He graded it a 65 proof-like.
You know what he offered me even though I said I wasn't selling it?
He offered me melt value.
He wasn't joking, even though he laughed.
What's funny to him is, had I said "OK", he would have taken that coin for some $19 and made thousands.
He was holding a Class III Branch Mint Proof and offered me melt value.
That says it all.
This is a huge problem in this hobby, people have a bad experience then begin questioning everyone and everything instead of using the resources I provided with this video. I do show a NT coin and you can go to the Morgan Toning page shown and learn all about how and why and what toned coins look like. Videos are never comprehensive enough and why we still have books and websites. Forget what you think you know and go to Cash's website shown.
I do this for a living so I have to know NT from AT and sometimes there is a fine line, but when profit is involved then I err on the side of caution.
Wtf are these guys doing to there coins just destroying history and coins what a waste of time and there ugly why have you Evan bought them hope you haven waste of money
Collars - call ars ….. Colors - cull urs there your welcome
It's an accent, didn't need your help here. I bet you can't watch Skynews without your head exploding.
TY for the knowledge.