Presumed Innocent Episode 5 Breakdown | Recap & Review | Ending Explained
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Today I'm here to discuss Apple TV+ "Presumed Innocent" Episode 5 and I’m breaking it all down! This is my official SPOILER Review, Discussion and Scene Breakdown! Let's talk about everything in the comments!
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Created by
David E. Kelley
Based on
Presumed Innocent by Scott Turow
Showrunner
David E. Kelley
Starring
Jake Gyllenhaal
Ruth Negga
Bill Camp
Elizabeth Marvel
Renate Reinsve
Peter Sarsgaard
O-T Fagbenle
Chase Infiniti
Lily Rabe
Nana Mensah
Matthew Alan
Kingston Rumi Southwick
Original network:
Apple TV+
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What did you think of the episode and the ending as well as what deeper themes did you take away from this episode? Share your overalls thoughts after watching this episode in the comments?
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I believe the performance of every single member of the main cast of this show is capable of winning an Emmy, but personally I would give one to OT Fagbenle if you familiar with his work he is basically showing chameleon level range here, however if anyone would probably get nominated it would probably be Ruth Negga ( What a last name by the way) and Jake Gyllenhaal but Ruth has a higher win potential. Great performances all round, any thoughts?
Remember the Undoing when they had a lot of herrings. Maybe Rusty is the murderer 😮
If it is not Rusty then Raymond or Tommy. I don’t think we have seeing enough yet
@@MovieFiles it’s either raymond or his wife or Tommy
I thought Tommy saw his reflection in window while he was looking at the still of Caroline with shorts on
But with the focus so much on his wife in this episode, I’m starting to think the wife did it
Tommy is a fantastic nuanced character, but he’s unstable & decompensating as the series goes on. He’s exceptional in voice, movement, and in portraying shame, pride, anger, etc.
Love how Gyllenhale keeps taking showers and encountering the rain. Baptism after baptism after cleansing after purification events. A little too often. It became distracting.
🤣😂😅💀"as he damn near poops his pants as he let out a wet one"☠
TOMMY DEF HAd A LUST FOR the VICTIM. MAYBE HE DID IT
Possibly
Tell me do you think any some Michael bay films are coherent.
He’s trash just like Zack Snyder!
Yes
What was the need of this episode??? Absolutely borin...
If I lived near Rusty’s house, I’d move! Cops, fist fights, home searches, scrubbing bikes in the middle of the night…Geeze! And he’s worried about a light bulb?
Wait you forgot throwing fast balls at the garage in the AM 😂😂😂
Barbara should leave Rusty doe. Like she is making things worse by cheating and emotionally cheating at that. She as well is just as delusional as Rusty. How does she really think things will go back to normal after all the things Rusty has done but I digress.
lol i understand 100 percent what you’re saying but it’s also like some women will do anything but leave! She will cheat back to try and get even. You even heard in the therapy session she was trying to justify as that it was just a kiss not sex 😂 I do agree she should just leave but it’s seeming like it’s more than that
Maybe she didn't leave 'cause she's the murderer and is there to watch him suffer.
I think by the end of the trial, she’ll leave him if he or she aren’t guilty
Co-dependence. She was 20 when they met and was pregnant 6 months later. Also when people immediately after infidelity they usually return. It's very hard to just up and leave with no financial plan. Divorces take a while. But If the series plays out like the book/movie then it's guilt that keeps her there.
The show wants us to believe that maybe Tommy did it. However, imo Barbara is way too calm about this entire ordeal. You really think Barbara didn't know that the affair started up again..think again. Why did Rusty say to his wife in the previous ep that she plays some part in this ... Maybe he is protecting her ...because Barbara was also there that night.. Rusty is not innocent at all
The way she was murdered needs anger but in a very articulated way.
Tommy, well is he that articulated?
Rusty and Nico seem the type of people that can do something like this. But they can't, right?
One weird theory, It was kyle who bludgeoned her to death, and then Rusty came back and saw it (kyle still present) and covered up the murder, and since he was drunk he can't recollect those memories
This would be so much better with a Sandy Stern character.
This adaptation has been very disappointing.
It's Raymond! have a feeling that the second sperm sample from the Bunny Davis case is Raymond's. It's possible since she was a prostitute that Raymond was the customer before Liam Reynolds. Carolyn sees this in the file and hides it, later confronting Raymond with that evidence. If that gets out it seriously jeopardizes his reelection . We've gotten to know Carolyn's character and I wouldn't put it past her to hold that over Raymond's head for promotion. So he has to take out the only person that could expose him. It's possible he knew about the affair and it was an easy way for all the evidence to point towards Rusty, but it would never be conclusive enough to convict him.
Rusty is so outrageous and quite insane. He is doing too much at this point. The whole Bryan thing can be a little far fetched but like Mya said “that is not our case”. Rusty is trying so hard to get a fall guy instead of letting the ppl he HIRED to represent him to work. It’s so frustrating seeing how self centered and careless he is. Personally, it’s pissing me off 😭😭😭. Now I can see how Tommy can be a suspect as well but my eyes are on possibly Barbara or even the son.
Yeah rusty is definitely going crazy but I don’t blame him. Imagine being blamed for a murder you had nothing to do with lol
@@MovieFiles Imagine being a high powered Prosecutor who sees and hears this all the time. Rusty is acting like he's never Lawyered before lol.
Concentrating on the wife and the bartender is such a silly ridiculous add on…
It's disgusting and annoying to watch
I have read a lot of speculation about Raymond but I can't see Carolyn being attracted to him as a lover. Certainly not as compared to her attraction to Rusty, who is closer to her in age, stage and physicality. I definitely see Tommy as having the potential to think he had a chance with her and I do believe that he was obsessed with her and extremely jealous of Rusty in more ways than just his relationship with Carolyn. He wants to replace Rusty, romantically and professionally. He has both the ambition and the drive but he is paranoid and has become unhinged over this case. Whether or not it is because he is the killer or was involved in her murder. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was the driving force somehow.
It’s because of the book but I agree with you I think they changed this element in this series. I wonder if they keep the ending of the book but I am not sure
There’s just something about Raymond especially with the nightmares that I find interesting
Never seen more dysfunctional & wacky people in one series.
I’m kinda curious what did the bike in the trash mean? Wasn’t that the bike the wife was just washing down at 3 am last episode? Why was Tommy looking at that evidence of Carolyn like he was bout to freaky in the office? I don’t really care for the affair with Barbar n the bartender it’s dragged out now! The whole family kinda weird honestly son been acting strange and it looks like the mom is covering for him and the daughter is kinda just there always like 😢idk how much screen time she had but I’m tired of seeing her already! Just want to see rusty lose his mind
Duh that’s the bike she was washing down. That’s the son’s bike. Suspect asf for getting rid of it!
lol.. This episode does seems like a filler episode.. I agree, didn’t care much about the mothers affair too..
Yeah I think the bartender plot is pretty much setting up them eventually getting a divorce
Hi Elliott, great review. I'm leaning toward Jaden, the daughter now. The therapy session was telling, the way Barbara expressed to the therapist how she felt Jaden was judging her. We may find out that the DNA findings were wrong or falsified. Just noodling.
Yeah I mentioned her a few videos ago because of the way she was acting when they took her laptop away.
I think Rusty was at Bryan’s house trying to find the murder weapon
Good point
I think it’s the wife, or Tommy. I hope it’s not the son of Rusty
No it’s not. In the original it’s the wife. And from what I understood is that the remake has gone a different route from the original. We’ll just have to continue watching of course.
When that fart scene came up I wondered if I was just waaay too high. I had to rewind to understand what I just watched. I had to pause it to laugh for like 10 minutes.
Love the actor who’s playing Ray. He’s bright, down to earth and real. Love his look and his delivery of complicated dialogue. He’s extraordinary!
Tommy is unhinged. He made Carolyn uncomfortable and she was tough. Everyone in the office calls him an a**hole. He wanted her and some men cannot take rejection in any form.
This was a complete waste of an episode. Nothing happened.
I can agree with some of that but to me, it was more of a character focused episode vs giving more evidence
I do not know Elliot. I think Rusty's lawyer or his wife has something to do with the incident.
Gotta be Barbara the wife
The sub theme about Barbara and Clifford is irrelevant and uninteresting. It feels as if it was obviously created to attract black viewers. Their meet ups are just disconnected from the movie.
The wife is the real suspect in the original. FYI! Seems to me that they have gone a different route with the remake. Possibly the son of rusty and barbs super sus of him to get rid of the bike
I’ve seen the movie and avoided sharing that detail for those who haven’t seen it
Tommy, something not right about him and his involvement in this triangle with Rusty and Carolyn!
I fell asleep on 3 different parts of this episode! 😂
Yea
Wasn’t feeling it huh lol
It’s the wife, the original was the wife …the remake will still be the wife 😊
Wow the writers and directors dropped the ball…..
I think Tommy killed her👀
Definitely is very suspicious
Agree!!! Since episode 1
I think Tommy did it. I thought that since episode 1
Tommy is so jealous of Rusty
Scanners references, awesome
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Pretty good show. Didn't care for the ending however.
Does it show who the killer is?
@@tarshaneilly518 That's the problem.
@@jadapandy dang it man. Bummer!!!
Rusty’s wife is guilty of Caroline’s murder as she is trying to frame Rusty. This is my theory.
Ahh, You must have read the book or saw the Harrison Ford version. I am hoping that they change the ending from the original movie, just as a surprise
I think it's Rusty. He's like Chris Watts.
I keep thinking that the way Caroline's hands and feet were tied in such a horrible way could not be the work of an ordinary angry and betrayed person like Barbara.😓
It’s definitely NOT Raymond! Great recap!😮
We’ll see 👀
this show is fucking amazing. again, Jake is just an actor on another level
That ending tho😂
Did you enjoy it
I think it’s one of the people in the D.A.’s office or one of the Kids Possibly her son.
The wife did it , don't blame her 🤷♀️
For killing a woman?
Thoughts on this episode:
1. The show's emphasis on Barbara suggests a deeper exploration of Rusty & Barbara's marriage(most likely the demise of their relationship). Revelations during the trial will strain their marriage further, potentially offering motives or connections to Carolyn's murder.
2. Tommy's undeniable past with Carolyn and his desire for acceptance and power raise suspicions. They have yet to introduce Tommy's personal life. I think the show's lack of focus on his personal life may change during the trial, revealing his possible involvement in Carolyn's murder.
3. Convincing the audience that the daughter committed the murder would be challenging, given the physical strength required and the need for compelling motives. However, the show is involving the son, Kyle, more, suggesting his potential role in the trial's twists and turns. The tempering of the bicycle is going to cause some fallout once Tommy finds out. They probably won't make Tommy the murderer, just a character to cause additional drama during the trial.
4. By referring to Carolyn's residence as an "apartment" and featuring her living in one, the show likely intends to introduce neighbors as potential sources of information that could either strengthen or weaken the prosecutor's case. They could have made her live in a house/townhouse. Or just have the dialogs written so that the characters refer to her place of living as "Carolyn's place". But they say "apartment" every single time. We are 100% going to see Tommy bring in neighbors as witnesses (and possibly backfire?).
What a boring episode
It was one of the more boring episode
Really slow!
Definitely a setup episode
@@MovieFiles fair enough! Next week will probably be intense
Yea, I fell asleep watching it and had to watch it again during the day😅
Shit episode I'd rate it 5/10
Episode I -4 10/10
Series started really good but now its just so irritating to watch. Like whats up with the wife and bartender. Does she think cheating back will make everything ok, or is it some kind of revenge. Its so disgusting to watch. Dropped the series
That bartender plot is unnecessary and pointless to me. It slows the pacing and plot.
This is so far the worst episode of the series. Rusty is becoming such a jerk and he is not someone to root for.
Definitely my least favorite so far but I still found things that I enjoyed that the character development
Just watch the movie it’s better
639 IMO - This series is much better than the movie!
The show is a whole lot of nothing really, super boring 😴 discount gone girl but every episode ending with nothing to look forward. HBO The night of is a better show.
These 3 Sabich children don’t fit into this plot. They don’t feel authentic to me.
This show should've been 6 or 7 episodes 8 is just extra