@@M1LK_0F_TH3_S1R3NS_M ikr and everything that happened that night that’s defends Mel, adds up very well but I still think that both of them need to go to court to figure things out
exactly. wasn’t she proven innocent??? this happened ages ago??? also i found it strange that timothy released the video during the trilogy tour and when mel got millions of fans??? cant be JUST me right?
@@justanymph I didn’t say anything about my opinion I honestly on both idk who to believe but all I said since the allegations are back as in it got popular again and Timothy came back Mel needs to respond or a lot of people will think she is guilty
PIGGYBACK Lyrics I was three years old All I wanted was the music and My parents were doing everything they could To move away from our place working over time always While I sat up in my grandma's project building coloring Ooh Moved to a small town and Started to started to grow Poetry written I’m singing and dancing Ooh Photographs painting cartoons That's all I know That's all I know I have one best friend to this very fucking day Since we were five years old and I fucking moved away I wish I never did cause she’s the only one who sees me for who I really am instead of how many I reach Ooh Trusted too many fake people while I was still young Gave them the benefit of the doubt I was so wrong I cut them off and they came for blood cause they know They ain't getting no more I’m so done with playing piggy back Ooh Swear to god I wished y’all all the best Ooh You’re lying your way to try and gain a piece of me when you could never come close cause I know my destiny I worked hard for my shit Put my love in this shit Now you’re trying to kill my name for some fame What is this tried to help you do your shit Encouraged you to work on it Was a good friend and you used that to your advantage Now I’m 22 and I've had a crazy year of Isolation from all the plastic people here I can not wait for the day I can finally move away back to New York city where the realest people really stay Ooh Spent this whole time writing away my heart and my soul The people I surround myself with have hearts filled with gold Love and empathy are things that we hold so close Trying to learn and evolve I’m so done with playing piggy back Ooh Swear to god I wished y’all all the best Ooh You’re lying your way to try and gain a piece of me when you could never come close cause I know my destiny I worked hard for my shit Put my love in this shit Now you’re trying to kill my name for some fame What is this Tried to help you do your shit Encouraged you to work on it Was a good friend and you used that to your advantage I’m so done with playing piggy back Ooh Swear to god I wished y'all all the best Ooh You're lying your way to try and gain a piece of me when you could never come close cause I know my destiny
@@cannibwal I've actually recently been looking into this, and honestly it sounds like they fell out and her friend lied about a lot of what happened that night because she wanted attention and to tear her down. We don't know what actually happened that night but it I think it's safe to say Melanie at the very least didn't rape her
@@vi9486don’t treat Melanie like she’s some doll now, I can agree, Timothy could’ve lied or told the truth, but she’s not innocent until proven guilty, same thing goes for Melanie! Don’t act like you know everyone and how they act.
@@RoyaleLiveyy yes. They literally are. One possibility is that you’re attacking a victim of sa further ruining her life, or you’re attacking someone who just had her career and reputation relentlessly damaged. No matter who it is of those two, the other person is an innocent victim who doesn’t deserve to loose everything because of what the other person did to them. I don’t think Heller wants to ruin mel’s life with her statement. She just wants to move on with her own, and at the end of the day, that’s the least we can do after 7 years of harassment.
@@brieflyflesh4917 Isn't it suspicious to you that all of a sudden, now that Melanie is gaining more fame and popularity, Timothy resurfaces with the accusations? My girl Mel has already been through a lot, especially after her crybaby album and people where attacking her online and making fun of her gap, and even destroying merchandise. Yes, Timothy has also been through a lot after her accusations where said to be false, but it wasn't Melanie who did the harassing, it was her fans. Also, some texts between the two were leaked and ALOT of them show Timothy basically gaslighting Melanie, and also making fun of her with some of her other friends. If that doesn't scream attention whpre, idk what does. If you don't believe me, look up Timothy Hellers leaked text with Melanie Martinez.
@@averyjohnson7728 where's the proof? No, cuz your talking as if you know something the rest of us don't. Melanie could be guilty, but so far, all the evidence is saying she's innocent. If you have evidence that says otherwise, then go ahead and back up your statement.
Are people really comparing this to toxic gossip train by Colleen ? 💀 EDIT AUGUST 2024: I wanna take this comment down but its just too iconic and I don't exactly support Melanie anymore
Colleen is a predator and Melanie assaulted her friend. This song IS fire but it's the most ridiculous response to a rape allegation ever😭 quit defending this woman with your soul, it's okay to be a fan of a piece of shit human. Just accept that about yourself and move on
[Verse 1] I was three years old, all I wanted was the music And my parents were doing everything they could To move away from our place, working overtime always While I sat up in my grandma's project building coloring Oh, moved to a small town and started to, started to grow Poetry written, I'm singing and dancing, oh Photographs, painting, cartoons That's all I know, that's all I know, oh [Verse 2] I have one best friend to this very fucking day Since we were five years old and I fucking moved away I wish I never did 'cause she's the only one who sees me For who I really am instead of how many I reach, oh Trusted too many fake people while I was still young Gave them the benefit of the doubt, I was so wrong I cut them off and they came for blood 'cause they know They ain't getting no more [Chorus] I'm so done with playing piggyback, oh-oh Swear to god, I wished y'all all the best, oh You're lying your way to try to gain a piece of me When you could never come close 'cause I know my destiny I worked hard for my shit, put my love in this shit Now you're trying to kill my name for some fame, what is this? Tried to help you do your shit, encouraged you to work on it Was a good friend and you used that to your advantage [Verse 3] Now I'm 22 and I've had a crazy year of isolation From all the plastic people here I cannot wait for the day I can finally move away Back to New York City where the realest people really stay Oh, spent this whole time writing away my heart and my soul The people I surround myself with have hearts filled with gold Love and empathy are things that we hold so close Trying to learn and evolve [Chorus] I'm so done with playing piggyback, oh-oh Swear to god I wished y'all all the best, oh You're lying your way to try to gain a piece of me When you could never come close 'cause I know my destiny I worked hard for my shit, put my love in this shit Now you're trying to kill my name for some fame, what is this? Tried to help you do your shit, encouraged you to work on it Was a good friend and you used that to your advantage [Outro] I'm so done with playing piggyback, oh Swear to god I wished y'all all the best, oh You're lying your way to try to gain a piece of me When you could never come close 'cause I know my destiny
As a Melanie fan who wasn't here during the accusations it makes me sad to see his being brought up in 2024.Listening to this song perfectly encapsulates the emotions she felt while that situation happened back then.And it relates to today too this is just ridiculous.I hope Melanie speaks up about this and ends this once and for all!
Reminder that back in 2017, Melanie herself said that the allegations aren't true and that she would never be intimate with anyone without their absolute consent. It's from her second statement about this, which a lot of people ignore/forgot about because they're so focused on her first statement and it's bad wording. The bad wording is normal guys, she was getting falsely accused of SA, it's normal for her to stress about this, anyone would. If you know Melanie for a long time, you would know that she's not the type of person to lie about this kind of stuff. Unlike Timothy, who only wants fame.
"if you know melanie for a long time" no. you don't know her at all. for all you know she could be a serial killer y'all have such a crazy parasocial relationship with melanie 💀
@@averageyoutubeuser16I don’t need a parasocial relationship to think for myself like a damn adult. You believe she’s guilty and I believe she’s not. Simple as that
One of her best songs being unreleased is kinda symbolic to me bout how messed up the whole thing feels. It happened, and everyone moved forward but tbh I never left the crybaby phase mentally
Melanie Martinez is a singer. That is her job. Collen is a annoying youtuber. Dont compare the 2 period. Also, melanie was framed. Collen has MULTIPLE things against her that she has done. Over yearsssss
colleen is racist, is a groomer, a liar, a horrible singer, inappropriate conduct with minors, racist commentary, and sharing unsolicited nude photos of Trisha Paytas with her fans
Piggyback is a song to vent, Toxic Gossip Train is just last words. « Fuck you for having proof that I did shit wrong! » I personally don’t take sides in this debate because just saying fuck you to Timothy cause the allegations are against my favorite singer seems fucked up. Yeah I know there’s a lot of proof around the fact that she made it up, and Timothy isn’t exactly a good person, but really rn I’m just neutral, and to me Melanie is Innocent until proven Guilty. Do I think she did it? No. Could I be proven wrong? Absolutely. Did I get proven wrong? No, at least not for now. Melanie has only issued 2 statements and a song about the whole ordeal and it died down. Timothy never spoke up about it again either after that. Timothy didn’t take legal action against mel. It’s only the fans who are still rambling about it as if it made a difference at this point 6 years later. This story will never have an ending and I doubt mel would come forward and admit to having done it / timothy would come forward and admit she lied. So there is a possibility mel is innocent and a possibility mel is guilty. It’s your choice to decide wether your think mel is guilty until proven innocent or innocent until proven guilty. So yeah it’s way different from Colleen’s situation. Colleen was proven guilty. Colleen had lawyers against this shit cause she knew she did it and the lawyers legit told her « don’t. » and she did it anyway like damn go pay for lawyers and then waste this advice on the biggest fuck up of this century 😂
@KimmyGrant the after school sessions started in 2017 when melanie was making the k-12 deluxe which later turned into after school, piggyback was recorded and released in december 2017, during the after school sessions but it was never intended for it
@@davivsure, but is still sounds like a good song for it, if not for K-12 Deluxe. I think this could have been a great at the end of After School, after the song "The Bakery". Like, taking it out of its written context, this could be a song about the people being represented by the characters that were not her friends. It would be a symbolic goodbye to K-12.
I'm afraid a lot of people will attack me for writing this, but I really want to point out that another girl, Madeleine Carina (Melanie's old friend and makeup artist), shared her experience when no one supported Timothy and said Melanie pressured her until she forced her into sexual activity. she said, until she bowed to her. Besides, if you stop blindly defending the artist you love and really look at it from a third eye perspective, you will notice. I'm not saying hate speech or anything to anyone in this comment, but if you have an opinion on this subject, please reply and let's talk.
@@averageyoutubeuser16 isn't it? People always say listen to the victims but they don't like it when it comes to their favorite artist. I've been listening to Melanie Martinez since I was seven years old, so even when it first came out, i was one of her biggest fan, but now it's time to open my eyes. and talk about it
@@Yagmur-cb8zdi know how you feel, i used to be a huge fan of her too until i stopped being ignorant and chose to believe her victims. but unfortunately when you try to educate other fans they just refuse to listen to you
@@peachpopsicle4090 I’m just putting together information from this situation, I am neutral. I’m waiting for Melanie’s response then I’ll take away my claim if it changes my mad
actually this is an offical released song! mel did not want to make money off of this song so instead of putting it on her channel or her spotify she put it on soundcloud.
i’m so lost onto why this is always brought up when melanie is suddenly on the rise. please tell me this isn’t odd behavior..? the timing seems to always be “perfect”
timothy came back w nothing new. i feel bad for all the blind people like look at the evidence. and why is she doing this on tiktok where theres only KIDS and TEENAGERS who dont know shit she shouldve brought it to court if she really cared🙏
y'all can attack me for this, idgaf. all of this is coming from a former fan of melanie martinez. it's always "she got the dates wrong!!" melanie quite literally said that it happened herself. "she's a bad person!!" that doesn't matter at all. the majority of the things she supposedly did were made up by melanie fans and even if they were true, it doesn't mean she wasn't sexually assaulted. "sarah morgan exposed her!!" she isn't even a real person. "she dressed up as melanie!!" many victims stay friends with their abusers after it happens. some even stay dating or are forced to live with them. timothy explained that she was still friends with melanie at the time and was on tour with her when the pictures were taken. (update: i found out that those pictures were taken before the allegations even came out.) "she promoted her music after making the accusations!!" she released her song months before. "she didn't go to the police or court!!" what would the police be able to do without evidence? the legal system treats sexual assault cases horribly, especially when it's women on women. most sa cases don't have any evidence. and if timothy really is lying, why hasn't melanie sued her for defamation? "timothy bought the game!!" yeah, as a joke. she never consented to having actual sex. "melanie was in the handcuffs!!" ever heard of this thing that happens in games called taking turns? "melanie made songs about how rape is bad!!" hypocrisy is a thing that exists. "she's only speaking up now that melanie is more popular!!" no, she's speaking up now because she was ran off the internet. even if that were the case, why shouldn't she? her story deserves more recognition and support. not to mention there's this globelamp person who wasn't even actually friends with timothy and is an abuser herself. several friends of mine were sexually assaulted, you gonna tell them that they're lying too? they can't remember the dates or when it happened so i guess that means they're clearly lying. you're all just a bunch of victim blamers. it's very common for people who have been traumatized to not remember dates. and what about madeleine carina? y'all love to forget that she exists and that she was also sa'd. and before you bring up the whole "she said it was consensual!!" thing: if you have to be begged over and over again while you're intoxicated until you finally give in to having sex, then it's not consent, it's coercion, which is still a form of sexual assault. melanie also never even bothered to address what she said. another thing: why would timothy come back after years of harassment, being doxxed and getting sent death threats if all she wanted was "attention"? why would she put herself through all of that again if that were the case? she isn't gaining any "fame" from this, she's just receiving the same thing she did 7 years ago: being harassed by melanie's fanbase and getting called a "liar". everyone also just loves to ignore the fact that melanie changed her story. first she said that she did something with timothy and then backtracked on it when she thanked her fans for pointing out her "false" statements. did it happen or not? melanie's first statement is also horrendous. "she never said no" is abuser language. the full sentence does not matter because it doesn't change anything. if it isn't a definitive and enthusiastic yes, then it's a no, period. it's always "believe the victim!!" until it's timothy and madeleine.
Youre so valid and thank you so muchfor coming out with this comment because i've been trying to say the same thing. You're loved and it is truly hurtful to slowly realize that my favorite artist has not always been who i thought she may have been.
Guys PLEASE stay neutral on the situation. Attacking Melanie supporters won't do anything, and neither will attacking Timothy believers. Please leave Timothy alone, even if she is lying, (which is unlikely, at this point.) that doesn't excuse the way people have been treating her. She is a person and deserves respect and support. Melanie also doesn't deserve to be attacked. I wish I could say more, but I honestly can't until she speaks up. But either way, as outsiders of the situation we shouldn't be making any claims or judgements until both parties have spoken. Anyway make sure to have a good day! :3
Btw,timothy is messing up the story One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up" And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together" And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black. we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July. I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not. and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face
FRR LIKE PEOPLE GOTTA NOTICE THIS ITS SO GOOD I LOVE IT SM ❤ THERE LIKE “why you singing her unreleased songs fake fan and how do you know it lyric from lyric” IM LIKE BBFR
The fact that all of this happened 7 years ago and now again. Like there is something so off about Timothy. And on top of that it's always when Melanie finally gets the recognition she deserves that Timothy comes from a random corner like sleep paralysis Anyways I am not taking sides unless one of them has prove. I will still listen to Melanie. 🤷🏻♀️
ermmm bc why not let the new fans know what kind of person mel is? lol… also it doesn’t matter how long ago SA happened?? you still always fight for your justice ? lmao gross comment
@@pompompurrrinnnomg I am so gross because I don't believe everything the Internet tells me to believe in 😱 Get it together and read my comment again and read what I wrote. I will not side with anyone (even tho there was tons of proof 7 years ago that Timothy lied and was literally so unhinged talking about Melanie and their little erotic game. Like I am a multiple sexual abuse victim and I know how it feels like to talk just even a bit about my abusers. So the fact that she was like "oh yeeeeaaahh this. Yeah I chose that erotic game cause it looked fun 😬" is way more disgusting to me than my comment saying that something isboff with her
@@pompompurrrinnn and also we shouldn't forget how she cosplayed Mel after the so called SA incident.. WHO TF DOES THAT AFTER A SA???? So of course victims like myself cannot relate to her lmao.
@@pompompurrrinnnand yet I still said I will not side with anyone cause who knows maybe Timothy is actually so damn out of her mind. But still won't pick a side until there is proof of Mel doing it or Timothy actually admitting the lies. 🤷🏻♀️
Going back and tried relistening to this song, I couldn't take how much the world hated Melanie by that time that gave hindrance to her success. SHE WAS INNOCENT ALL THIS TIME, YET PEOPLE WAS SO BLINDSIDED BY LIES.
Bc just bc a victim is female doesn’t mean she can’t rape other victims women can tape women etc etc but a cry of help isn’t always genuine. She was always innocent. She put out two “testimonies” this one and the tweet and somehow it didn’t need to be incredibly long like Timothy’s.
Some people in this comment section is so dumb. First of all, you can’t take this case to court, SA cases can’t be settled in court since it takes time and money to do so, and Melanie is richer than Timothy, she can easily win with a good lawyer. Second, why are people treating this like an annoyance? It’s insulting to Timothy and is just disgusting. Third, why are people saying “I’m staying netrual until there’s more evidence” what evidence do you need??? Pictures or videos? And Melanie already said “She never said no to what we chose to do TOGETHER.” Just because she never said no, doesn’t mean she said yes, otherwise Melanie would have said she consented. Fourth, ALWAYS BELIEVE THE VICTIM, it’s always important to believe the victim and to always take their side, you should never doubt them, as it’s insulting. Number five, why do people act like they know Timothy and Melanie in real life??? If you say Melanie is innocent, where’s your proof? Timothy saying that other celebrities SA’d her is a fake account made by a Melanie stan that wanted to get Melanie out of trouble. Now let me ask you something, would you rather believe a possible liar, or rapist in this case? You decide. Thank you.
@@lukaslourd Hello! I'm a Melanie fan under 13, I use her songs for comfort. None of her fans are 'dumb'.. It's only that at the current timeframe, Only about a week into the accusations being brought up again, There stands literally NO proof for either person. Screenshots and pictures are very easily faked, and Melanie hasn't said anything about it quite yet. I'm not believing anyone!- Until Melanie or Timothy gives full proof to the accusations, We should wait it out a month, (Or at least I did).. Purely because if this was a 🍇 case, I've already seen so many 🍇 and death threats being passed between people in simple arguments about this. Even if Timothy is the victim, She completely deserves kindness and recognition. NOT more violence passed to anyone simply for trying to speak up. -Sincerely, A random person.
@@reginageorge979 yes it did when the accusations came back Melanie was still starting/ almost in the middle of the biggest tour of her life for your advice. ;)
@@Alissa_FellowArtistpeople like you are so gross. imagine you getting sexually assaulted and then when you tell your story everyone decides to call you a liar, doxxes you, harasses you off the internet, etc. you wouldn't like that very much, would you? have some fucking human decency jesus christ
There isn't any diss word in this song. She just called out a fake friend. Remember these are all " allegations " ! There was no evidence of her sexually assaulting Timothy.
Were you at the sleepover? how do you know Melanie Sa'd her?? This isn't me saying "Timthoy is lying" bc we don't know that for sure but you didn't go to the sleepover so how do you know what happened? Just asking
i genuinely dont know what to think tbh, they have so much dirt on Mel but every single time since the accusations came out Timothy's been proven a liar every time. Ive been listening to Mel since before the accusations came out and i supported her the entire time but i think she really needs to speak up about this. Im hoping she's innocent because that would mean that someone wasnt assaulted but if Timothy isnt telling the truth shes really determined to see her lose her career genuinely. Also how is this a diss track? it sounds like shes venting, nobody is dissing anybody.
my question for the people that believe timothy lied is: why? why would she, after years of harassment, doxxing, bullying etc. still stand by the accusations? why would she put herself at risk of being doxxed again? fame? support? she's not getting anything good from this. it's not fun. she's not having a good time. and yet, she's still here telling us her story.
If it happened i feel absolutely bad for her (we still don’t know). And nobody deserves to be doxxed. But, why did she only come out during the crybaby and trilogy tour?
0:58 - 1:14 and 1:32 - 1:47 talk about the current/past situation so well.. it needs to be over and done because yes this is probably extremely draining for timothy to bring up but also for melanie because theres a chance it isn’t true and this isn’t the first time it has been brought up.
" i hope melanie isnt lyig cau-" no. if she IS. i feel horrible cause someoen got sexually assaulted. not because" oh my fav singer!!" or " because i bought all her merch"
There's many holes in Timothys story for example I'll say one even tho there's many She said Melanie SA'd her in bed and another time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game
@@hxyleyp yeah i think it's about her point of view during the timothy heller thing but she also only uploaded it on SoundCloud cus it wasn't meant to make money from
@@tyomiss hey, I’ve heard this song hundreds of times and had no clue what it was about. I’ve been a Melanie Stan for awhile but she comes and goes for a lot of us. I actually had no idea of the allegations, I went to trilogy and have all her records tho. Some of us really didn’t know haha!
back here again since timothy wont shut up. y'all, timothy only cares about her own accusations when she can either promote her own music, or when she can tear melanie down. she's friends with anyone else who's accused melanie, and overall, she isn't credible because her timeline doesn't make sense, which she blames on outside factors like her icloud being messed up. if you bring up her busted timeline, she starts crying about her being triggered. people lie sometimes, even about serious topics. you should believe victims, but when they're acting suspicious, you need to think critically. we don't know what happened between them and we never will, but all things considered, timothy doesn't seem like a trustworthy source.
its funny bc one of her ex friends (globelamp) exposed her for saying that "melanie would trigger her" and yet, she knew every single piece of new info of her 😭😭
timothy gr00med and r*ped a minor btw and she bought a dirty game with melanie and she kept telling her other friend how easy it is to frame someone for r*pe
@@lizzyzliz "she never said no to anything WE did TOGETHER" it was also timothys idea of the game, why would the victim play the kidnapper and the r@pist the 'victim of kidnapping'?
@@M1LK_0F_TH3_S1R3NS_M watch “The Melanie Allegations were never disproven” plus Melanie’s statement isn’t any better. Regardless of who’s idea it was, you can still regret it later on. Timothy said that she said no multiple times, but Melanie kept pushing her to have intimacy. This isn’t the first story where people accuse Melanie of this.
@@ladariusfreeman she was saying she was lying about the dates and the situation but that was after her comment on the situation admitting that something happened between her and Timothy it’s very weird and contradictory, it makes her even more suspicious
@@KitKatbar168 Timothy also sus for using different sleepovers into one story explaining what went down even through they brought that valentine game which was melanie martinez in handcuffs and there was a dice telling them to roll for this or that look at favours video for the full breakdown of what happened it 2 hrs long and has no bias in it.
@@lunalolo8605 look, I’m not an expert on the topic, but far as I can find, it was never confirmed she lied. Timothy has stood by her story. And if anything, Melanie backed the story up, with her “She never said no” statement.
@@helenaperez4343 there so many videos of people looking into the topic and they all say timothy lied. and im pretty sure timothy even apologized for lying.
some of yall never heard of vent art and it shows, go away lmao melanie is allowed to have feelings and express them when ex friends try to ruin her career
I’ve been a crybaby since 2016 I remember the accusations and I listened to all her music and patiently waited for her to come back and release more music always been a supporting fan !😊💕 thanks for sharing your music Mel!💕
1. melanie probably doesnt want to take this to court (especially if she did assault timothy.) because it'll take quite a while and fun fact, courts do not take SA allegations seriously!!! 2. melanie admitted to getting intimate with her and her statement saying "she never said no" is a big red flag because if melanie did have consent she wouldve said that timothy said yes to being intimate. 3. if your 🍇ist is well known and famous, speaking up at that time would raise more awareness to your experience and make people aware. 4. of course timothy is going to say the same thing because SHES SAYING WHAT HAPPENED!! she is saying her experience of what melanie did and theres not much more to say because IT IS WHAT HAPPENED. its not like you can add on to the traumatic experience because people accuse you of 'saying the same thing' and yes, you ARE wrong! melanie has most likely 🍇ed timothy and your heads are too far up your ass to realize it because you guys KISS THE GROUND melanie walks on. its not even funny how much faith yall have in her, you guys dont even KNOW her. also, melanie NEVER spoke up about timothy being doxxed or trying to stop it. and before you say "well melanie doesnt have to!!! timothy accused her of-" she spoke up about oliver tree, didnt she? whats so bad about telling people to stop doxxing timothy?? its because MELANIE DOESNT CARE!
As a r*pe survivor. I believe in both of them. Melanie did not r*pe her Tim might have changed her mind mid intamacy and didnt say anything at that point. Still. Private conversation would hage beeb ideal. I feel tim brings this up very conveniently every tine melanie is doing good . Perhaps sone envy? Jealousy or malicious intent. This is a truly annoying situationm melanie already responded with this song and her words. " she didnt say no to what qe chose to do together" Meaining they bith agreed. Maybe Tim changed her mind but dudnt verbalize that so melanie couldnt have known. Consent can be denied ANY POINT IN TIme. But if you are silent while your into it already (WITHOUT BEING COERCED) . Then its not r*pe.
*(ALLEGEDLY) gets graped and decides to come back on the internet and talk about it because last time was ran off the internet by people who believed ONE CLAIM by (ALLEGED) abuser* Mel fans: give it a rest already do you realize how FOCKED UP that sounds??? Theres literal grape allegations against her and instead of waiting for a response, you try defending her without any proof she DIDNT do it.
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so we’re all here again?😭
yes 😭
Yup, came from Frances
Yup
Yep 😭
Yes 💀
7 years later, in the ascension of the Trilogy Tour, Timothy return and the story start againd and again...
she wants mel cancelled fr, and now that the fan base is bigger its worse. timothys adding gasoline to a burnt out fire🙏
@@M1LK_0F_TH3_S1R3NS_M ikr and everything that happened that night that’s defends Mel, adds up very well but I still think that both of them need to go to court to figure things out
she wants attention and to steal melanies fame lmao
@@-tsukishimaREAL
exactly. wasn’t she proven innocent??? this happened ages ago??? also i found it strange that timothy released the video during the trilogy tour and when mel got millions of fans??? cant be JUST me right?
Listening while reading comments 😭
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me rn
Sameee
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Me RN 😭
“Trusted too many fake people when I was still young” so real.
Sadly relate to it
@@pqrtalss_1same
Ouch! I relate to that one.
REAL
This is sad but I relate to this song…
how does this feel like a diss track it really just feels like a vent song
Right... always reaching
Exactly,she just felt it because it just felt true I guess
EXACTLY. its js a vent
lmao thought the same
like how would someone listen to this song and go "YUP that's a diss track"
Literally, she trusted many fake people which made her write this song 😒
History on the book is always repeating itself..
this song aged well!
Verdade
Real
sigh
the history book on the shelf is always repeating itself.
(I love waterloo by ABBA)
WHY DO WE KEEP GOING BACK TO THIS IM LOSING IT
fr
FR WTH
FR I FUCKING AM DONE
we do this like every 4 years 😭
“ NOW YOU TRYNNA KILL MY NAME FOR SOME FAME “ goes hard AND ITS RELATABLE
I SWEAARRRRR
@@aep.billis FRR ( i didn’t know i had so many likes- i couldn’t tell lol)
@@MelMarshmellow HHAHHAHA
i believe the girl
@@lasyas_ even if shes racist, a h1tl3r supporter, and a groomer?
Detention + brain and heart = piggyback
FR
Exactly
Real
Yeah
Frfr
yes, she came back with the same story as in 2017, Timothy 😢
here we go again..
this song aged well!
OFF TOPIC BUT I LOVE UR PFP
Jaz on top
@@ellaellaella-d1i THANK YOUUU
@@Bloomix_winx1 YES
This song blends perfectly into brain and heart!!
WOAH IT DOESSSS
melanie reused the melody for brain in heart lmao, i love both versions tho
I remember when i thought brain and heart was piggyback because they sounded similar, it sounds so beautiful tbh
@@lolthatscool7693oh lol
WE NEED A MSHUP WITH THOSE TWO
the reason Melanie didnt release this track is because she said she didn't want to make money off of fake bitches, wise words spoken by the queen
It was released on soundcloud lol
@@Sayayobe-cq7lwno it was at a time under her UA-cam account but yes sound cloud as well💗💕💕
@@Sayayobe-cq7lw yea i found out she actually released it💀💀but I wasn't wrong!!😭😭
nice user and pfp
please don't call her queen she doesn't like it (its ok if you didn't know)
“Was a good friend and used that to your advantage” 😢
brain rot
@@OverdosedOreos wrong ❌
@@melaniemartinezfan_4life Right ✔
@@OverdosedOreos naur !! ❌
@@OverdosedOreos no no no ☝️❌✨
y’all do notice that melanie already responded 7 years ago?… she doesn’t need to speak up twice.
@@sxynnq maybe she can give a story of what happened that night instead of being vague
I mean she kinda does if the whole allegations are back
@@Leena3005 they never left, nothing was proven. Idk why Timothy asking to be left alone in her video turned into Melanie’s fans hating her
@@justanymph I didn’t say anything about my opinion I honestly on both idk who to believe but all I said since the allegations are back as in it got popular again and Timothy came back Mel needs to respond or a lot of people will think she is guilty
@@Leena3005 oooohhh okay that’s my bad srry!💕
we are with you again melanie 💞
ew
@@freshlemon4851ew your pfp💀
@@Pinkzlemenade I changed it just for you 💖
@@freshlemon4851 ☺️
@@freshlemon4851"23 comments on this channel" girl you are obssessed with a liar ijbol 😭
1st time hearing this. Y'all know why I'm here.
Same lol
same, timothy is a lying shitbag melanie didnt do that
Same
Saaame
Same!
PIGGYBACK Lyrics
I was three years old
All I wanted was the music and
My parents were doing everything they could
To move away from our place working over time always
While I sat up in my grandma's project building coloring
Ooh
Moved to a small town and
Started to started to grow
Poetry written I’m singing and dancing
Ooh
Photographs painting cartoons
That's all I know
That's all I know
I have one best friend to this very fucking day
Since we were five years old and I fucking moved away
I wish I never did cause she’s the only one who sees me for who I really am instead of how many I reach
Ooh
Trusted too many fake people while I was still young
Gave them the benefit of the doubt
I was so wrong
I cut them off and they came for blood cause they know
They ain't getting no more
I’m so done with playing piggy back Ooh
Swear to god I wished y’all all the best Ooh
You’re lying your way to try and gain a piece of me when you could never come close cause I know my destiny
I worked hard for my shit
Put my love in this shit
Now you’re trying to kill my name for some fame
What is this
tried to help you do your shit
Encouraged you to work on it
Was a good friend and you used that to your advantage
Now I’m 22 and I've had a crazy year of
Isolation from all the plastic people here
I can not wait for the day I can finally move away back to New York city where the realest people really stay
Ooh
Spent this whole time writing away my heart and my soul
The people I surround myself with have hearts filled with gold
Love and empathy are things that we hold so close
Trying to learn and evolve
I’m so done with playing piggy back Ooh
Swear to god I wished y’all all the best Ooh
You’re lying your way to try and gain a piece of me
when you could never come close cause I know my destiny
I worked hard for my shit
Put my love in this shit
Now you’re trying to kill my name for some fame
What is this
Tried to help you do your shit
Encouraged you to work on it
Was a good friend and you used that to your advantage
I’m so done with playing piggy back
Ooh
Swear to god I wished y'all all the best
Ooh
You're lying your way to try and gain a piece of me
when you could never come close cause I know my destiny
True lifesaver 🫶🏽
Honestly, just gonna stay neutral. This is never gonna be confirmed if it happened or not atp.
valid
timothy needs to go to court fr
Same
i wish piggyback was in spotify as well 🙁
It actually is, but it's in the form of a podcast. It's called A cuestas
@@cucumber12l34a cuestas? I couldn’t find it ;-;
@@cucumber12l34 I didn't find it :(
She didn't upload it so as not to take advantage of the controversy with Timothy.
Don't use Spotify, they're a Zionist (Melanie is not a Zionist, Spotify is a Zionist)
Is it just me, or does she sound like she's about to cry? Powerful song.
She composed this song because she was falsei accused of rape, so I wouldn't be that surprised
@@Adikova97we don’t know it’s false, I suggest u look more into the situation before commenting this no hate to u or anything but yea.
@@cannibwal I've actually recently been looking into this, and honestly it sounds like they fell out and her friend lied about a lot of what happened that night because she wanted attention and to tear her down. We don't know what actually happened that night but it I think it's safe to say Melanie at the very least didn't rape her
@cannibwal it was false bro
@@josukeshair8891 how do u know
“Trusted too many fake people when I was young” is so relatable-
I listened to this while high and it makes you hear her despair a lot more, sad really
I know 😢😢😢😢😢
It sounds like a mix of brain and heart, feild trip, and note book
YESS
It does😭
it could be in after school tbh 😭
guys this song is released btw, she released it on her soundcloud but she didn’t wanna make money off of it so she didn’t release it anywhere else❤️
"Again and again and again and again, do it again, do it again.."
Yes.. (I was singing this song just now-)
It's so sad because you can really hear her emotions.
Fr
Anyone can fake that and yall are too blind to see that.
@@vi9486don’t treat Melanie like she’s some doll now, I can agree, Timothy could’ve lied or told the truth, but she’s not innocent until proven guilty, same thing goes for Melanie! Don’t act like you know everyone and how they act.
@@RoyaleLiveyy yes. They literally are. One possibility is that you’re attacking a victim of sa further ruining her life, or you’re attacking someone who just had her career and reputation relentlessly damaged. No matter who it is of those two, the other person is an innocent victim who doesn’t deserve to loose everything because of what the other person did to them. I don’t think Heller wants to ruin mel’s life with her statement. She just wants to move on with her own, and at the end of the day, that’s the least we can do after 7 years of harassment.
@@vi9486Timothy heller lied and the only reason she came back is because the Melanie fans picked on her
It’s sad how some will use tactics to bring a downfall to someone’s career. My love for Melanie will never die out 💗
How do you know seriously
@@brieflyflesh4917 Isn't it suspicious to you that all of a sudden, now that Melanie is gaining more fame and popularity, Timothy resurfaces with the accusations? My girl Mel has already been through a lot, especially after her crybaby album and people where attacking her online and making fun of her gap, and even destroying merchandise. Yes, Timothy has also been through a lot after her accusations where said to be false, but it wasn't Melanie who did the harassing, it was her fans. Also, some texts between the two were leaked and ALOT of them show Timothy basically gaslighting Melanie, and also making fun of her with some of her other friends. If that doesn't scream attention whpre, idk what does. If you don't believe me, look up Timothy Hellers leaked text with Melanie Martinez.
It’s always believe all victims until your lord and savior is the perpetrator
@@averyjohnson7728 where's the proof? No, cuz your talking as if you know something the rest of us don't. Melanie could be guilty, but so far, all the evidence is saying she's innocent. If you have evidence that says otherwise, then go ahead and back up your statement.
@@averyjohnson7728nga syau
Are people really comparing this to toxic gossip train by Colleen ? 💀
EDIT AUGUST 2024: I wanna take this comment down but its just too iconic and I don't exactly support Melanie anymore
They're litreally being dumber than kindergarten kids 💀
LITERALLY LIKE BFFR 💀💀💀
Some people just need a reason to hate💀💀💀
@@stormrat-j7f fr dude💀💀💀
💀💀💀ppl be wild
quit comparing this to toxic gossip train, this is a powerful song against someone who framed her, and Colleen is just lying.
Colleen is a predator and Melanie assaulted her friend. This song IS fire but it's the most ridiculous response to a rape allegation ever😭 quit defending this woman with your soul, it's okay to be a fan of a piece of shit human. Just accept that about yourself and move on
@@appletree3717anyways stream PORTALS for intelligence and clarity
Can you explain what is going on between them
WE TWINNING WITH OUR PFPS
@@Sugard0g YAYAYAY ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
[Verse 1]
I was three years old, all I wanted was the music
And my parents were doing everything they could
To move away from our place, working overtime always
While I sat up in my grandma's project building coloring
Oh, moved to a small town and started to, started to grow
Poetry written, I'm singing and dancing, oh
Photographs, painting, cartoons
That's all I know, that's all I know, oh
[Verse 2]
I have one best friend to this very fucking day
Since we were five years old and I fucking moved away
I wish I never did 'cause she's the only one who sees me
For who I really am instead of how many I reach, oh
Trusted too many fake people while I was still young
Gave them the benefit of the doubt, I was so wrong
I cut them off and they came for blood 'cause they know
They ain't getting no more
[Chorus]
I'm so done with playing piggyback, oh-oh
Swear to god, I wished y'all all the best, oh
You're lying your way to try to gain a piece of me
When you could never come close 'cause I know my destiny
I worked hard for my shit, put my love in this shit
Now you're trying to kill my name for some fame, what is this?
Tried to help you do your shit, encouraged you to work on it
Was a good friend and you used that to your advantage
[Verse 3]
Now I'm 22 and I've had a crazy year of isolation
From all the plastic people here
I cannot wait for the day I can finally move away
Back to New York City where the realest people really stay
Oh, spent this whole time writing away my heart and my soul
The people I surround myself with have hearts filled with gold
Love and empathy are things that we hold so close
Trying to learn and evolve
[Chorus]
I'm so done with playing piggyback, oh-oh
Swear to god I wished y'all all the best, oh
You're lying your way to try to gain a piece of me
When you could never come close 'cause I know my destiny
I worked hard for my shit, put my love in this shit
Now you're trying to kill my name for some fame, what is this?
Tried to help you do your shit, encouraged you to work on it
Was a good friend and you used that to your advantage
[Outro]
I'm so done with playing piggyback, oh
Swear to god I wished y'all all the best, oh
You're lying your way to try to gain a piece of me
When you could never come close 'cause I know my destiny
why is lana del ray in the lyrics
@@juIianstagIt's song recommendations
@@juIianstagcuz it's song recommendation from the website they copy pasted from
BYE THE LANA ADVERTISEMENT? 💀
thank you i wouldn't have known what she was saying
also the outro is the bridge js so you know for future references
Here we go again…. 💔
Lps fan spotted :00
As a Melanie fan who wasn't here during the accusations it makes me sad to see his being brought up in 2024.Listening to this song perfectly encapsulates the emotions she felt while that situation happened back then.And it relates to today too this is just ridiculous.I hope Melanie speaks up about this and ends this once and for all!
I was also not present during the first time all this stuff went down and it sadens me to see it resurfacing.
I also wasn’t a fan/here when there was the accusations and hearing the lyrics and knowing the backstory makes me believe Melanie’s side so much more
i feel bad for mel since shes busy w the tryology tour, but im going to be her rightful lawyer (help me its 3 in the morning)😃🥰
@@M1LK_0F_TH3_S1R3NS_M*trilogy*
Do you ever wonder how Timothy felt when her best friend just had SA’d her?
Reminder that back in 2017, Melanie herself said that the allegations aren't true and that she would never be intimate with anyone without their absolute consent. It's from her second statement about this, which a lot of people ignore/forgot about because they're so focused on her first statement and it's bad wording. The bad wording is normal guys, she was getting falsely accused of SA, it's normal for her to stress about this, anyone would. If you know Melanie for a long time, you would know that she's not the type of person to lie about this kind of stuff. Unlike Timothy, who only wants fame.
"if you know melanie for a long time" no. you don't know her at all. for all you know she could be a serial killer y'all have such a crazy parasocial relationship with melanie 💀
Say it loud for the people in the back 🗣🔥
@@Number1_Angelbabyliterally proving my point
@@averageyoutubeuser16I don’t need a parasocial relationship to think for myself like a damn adult. You believe she’s guilty and I believe she’s not. Simple as that
@@gabed-vh1ivyeah okay so you're just ignorant and in denial, cool. i suggest doing some actual research because clearly none of you have
Underrated song seriously
u know its a disstrack directed at the person who she allegedly ( but most likely raped) raped right
@💗devin💗 she wasnt declaring or proving shit she was just saying oh your saying i r*aped you....... well im famous so your just clout chasing
@@Grigio-KenCarsonsVer.wasn’t she like on the side of the country tho when it allegedly happened 💀
@lbbmood but why would she address them like this 💀💀
@@bagel44420 people twisted her words so she wrote this bcoz they cant twist her words if its a song
Her lyricism is so good, always blows my mind how many raw feelings she’s able to convey in just 3 minutes
One of her best songs being unreleased is kinda symbolic to me bout how messed up the whole thing feels. It happened, and everyone moved forward but tbh I never left the crybaby phase mentally
It’s not unreleased and it’s only uploaded by her on Soundcloud
Not unreleased but she doesnt wanna gain profit from it!
Me
Melanie Martinez is a singer. That is her job. Collen is a annoying youtuber. Dont compare the 2 period. Also, melanie was framed. Collen has MULTIPLE things against her that she has done. Over yearsssss
Also Melanie did talk about it outside of song she just made a song to let all her feelings out most singers do that
colleen is racist, is a groomer, a liar, a horrible singer, inappropriate conduct with minors, racist commentary, and sharing unsolicited nude photos of Trisha Paytas with her fans
@@Lbbh.crybaby and Melanie just posted it on soundcloud because she didn't wanted to gain nothing from it, unlike colleen
Piggyback is a song to vent, Toxic Gossip Train is just last words. « Fuck you for having proof that I did shit wrong! »
I personally don’t take sides in this debate because just saying fuck you to Timothy cause the allegations are against my favorite singer seems fucked up. Yeah I know there’s a lot of proof around the fact that she made it up, and Timothy isn’t exactly a good person, but really rn I’m just neutral, and to me Melanie is Innocent until proven Guilty. Do I think she did it? No. Could I be proven wrong? Absolutely. Did I get proven wrong? No, at least not for now.
Melanie has only issued 2 statements and a song about the whole ordeal and it died down. Timothy never spoke up about it again either after that. Timothy didn’t take legal action against mel. It’s only the fans who are still rambling about it as if it made a difference at this point 6 years later. This story will never have an ending and I doubt mel would come forward and admit to having done it / timothy would come forward and admit she lied. So there is a possibility mel is innocent and a possibility mel is guilty. It’s your choice to decide wether your think mel is guilty until proven innocent or innocent until proven guilty.
So yeah it’s way different from Colleen’s situation. Colleen was proven guilty. Colleen had lawyers against this shit cause she knew she did it and the lawyers legit told her « don’t. » and she did it anyway like damn go pay for lawyers and then waste this advice on the biggest fuck up of this century 😂
@@Lbbh.crybabycringe username lol
This sounds like a after school song and it’s Soo good
i mean it was recorded in early after school sessions
@KimmyGrant the after school sessions started in 2017 when melanie was making the k-12 deluxe which later turned into after school, piggyback was recorded and released in december 2017, during the after school sessions but it was never intended for it
@@davivsure, but is still sounds like a good song for it, if not for K-12 Deluxe. I think this could have been a great at the end of After School, after the song "The Bakery". Like, taking it out of its written context, this could be a song about the people being represented by the characters that were not her friends. It would be a symbolic goodbye to K-12.
July has been a crazy month. The whole president situation, cody ko getting exposed and now the allegations against mel resurfacing🙁
I'm afraid a lot of people will attack me for writing this, but I really want to point out that another girl, Madeleine Carina (Melanie's old friend and makeup artist), shared her experience when no one supported Timothy and said Melanie pressured her until she forced her into sexual activity. she said, until she bowed to her. Besides, if you stop blindly defending the artist you love and really look at it from a third eye perspective, you will notice. I'm not saying hate speech or anything to anyone in this comment, but if you have an opinion on this subject, please reply and let's talk.
this is what i've been trying to say
@@averageyoutubeuser16 isn't it? People always say listen to the victims but they don't like it when it comes to their favorite artist. I've been listening to Melanie Martinez since I was seven years old, so even when it first came out, i was one of her biggest fan, but now it's time to open my eyes. and talk about it
@@Yagmur-cb8zdi know how you feel, i used to be a huge fan of her too until i stopped being ignorant and chose to believe her victims. but unfortunately when you try to educate other fans they just refuse to listen to you
Real ones know what this song is actually about and who it was about :\.. Her bsf that deciding to press shit against her because she cut her off.
Mel doesn’t understand how consent works
@@KitKatbar168 And you know nothing. Stay neutral.
@@peachpopsicle4090 I’m just putting together information from this situation, I am neutral. I’m waiting for Melanie’s response then I’ll take away my claim if it changes my mad
I HATE listenting to Mels unreleased songs but im very invested int his drama and needed to understand by listening and now i feel very bad
Technically it's kinda released bc she only released it on soundcloud ♡
Nobody will know what this comment said
@@WillowVision13 oh okay!
@@Lovee_beadies 😯😯
actually this is an offical released song! mel did not want to make money off of this song so instead of putting it on her channel or her spotify she put it on soundcloud.
i’m so lost onto why this is always brought up when melanie is suddenly on the rise. please tell me this isn’t odd behavior..? the timing seems to always be “perfect”
i guess "piggyback" is a fitting title then, huh...
and weirdly enough the topic always resurfaces when Melanie is in tour and can’t respond…
timothy came back w nothing new. i feel bad for all the blind people like look at the evidence. and why is she doing this on tiktok where theres only KIDS and TEENAGERS who dont know shit she shouldve brought it to court if she really cared🙏
@@M1LK_0F_TH3_S1R3NS_Mwhat an insensitive thing to say about a victim. not all victims go to the police.
@@M1LK_0F_TH3_S1R3NS_M theres legal reasons why she wouldnt go to court
Its happening again ...❤ I hope soon things get resolved
"𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝑻𝑰𝑴𝑶𝑻𝑯𝒀 𝑯𝑬𝑳𝑳𝑬𝑹'𝒔 𝒃𝒊𝒕𝒄𝒉"
y'all can attack me for this, idgaf. all of this is coming from a former fan of melanie martinez.
it's always "she got the dates wrong!!" melanie quite literally said that it happened herself. "she's a bad person!!" that doesn't matter at all. the majority of the things she supposedly did were made up by melanie fans and even if they were true, it doesn't mean she wasn't sexually assaulted. "sarah morgan exposed her!!" she isn't even a real person. "she dressed up as melanie!!" many victims stay friends with their abusers after it happens. some even stay dating or are forced to live with them. timothy explained that she was still friends with melanie at the time and was on tour with her when the pictures were taken.
(update: i found out that those pictures were taken before the allegations even came out.)
"she promoted her music after making the accusations!!" she released her song months before. "she didn't go to the police or court!!" what would the police be able to do without evidence? the legal system treats sexual assault cases horribly, especially when it's women on women. most sa cases don't have any evidence. and if timothy really is lying, why hasn't melanie sued her for defamation? "timothy bought the game!!" yeah, as a joke. she never consented to having actual sex. "melanie was in the handcuffs!!" ever heard of this thing that happens in games called taking turns? "melanie made songs about how rape is bad!!" hypocrisy is a thing that exists. "she's only speaking up now that melanie is more popular!!" no, she's speaking up now because she was ran off the internet. even if that were the case, why shouldn't she? her story deserves more recognition and support. not to mention there's this globelamp person who wasn't even actually friends with timothy and is an abuser herself.
several friends of mine were sexually assaulted, you gonna tell them that they're lying too? they can't remember the dates or when it happened so i guess that means they're clearly lying. you're all just a bunch of victim blamers. it's very common for people who have been traumatized to not remember dates.
and what about madeleine carina? y'all love to forget that she exists and that she was also sa'd. and before you bring up the whole "she said it was consensual!!" thing: if you have to be begged over and over again while you're intoxicated until you finally give in to having sex, then it's not consent, it's coercion, which is still a form of sexual assault. melanie also never even bothered to address what she said.
another thing: why would timothy come back after years of harassment, being doxxed and getting sent death threats if all she wanted was "attention"? why would she put herself through all of that again if that were the case? she isn't gaining any "fame" from this, she's just receiving the same thing she did 7 years ago: being harassed by melanie's fanbase and getting called a "liar".
everyone also just loves to ignore the fact that melanie changed her story. first she said that she did something with timothy and then backtracked on it when she thanked her fans for pointing out her "false" statements. did it happen or not? melanie's first statement is also horrendous. "she never said no" is abuser language. the full sentence does not matter because it doesn't change anything. if it isn't a definitive and enthusiastic yes, then it's a no, period. it's always "believe the victim!!" until it's timothy and madeleine.
Youre so valid and thank you so muchfor coming out with this comment because i've been trying to say the same thing. You're loved and it is truly hurtful to slowly realize that my favorite artist has not always been who i thought she may have been.
do u know where I can find Madeline’s statement? Cuz I don’t think I’ve heard of that one
@@yes07777i can't find the original post but there are screenshots of it, just search up "melanie martinez madeleine carina" and it'll be there
@@averageyoutubeuser16Ok thank u
Guys PLEASE stay neutral on the situation. Attacking Melanie supporters won't do anything, and neither will attacking Timothy believers. Please leave Timothy alone, even if she is lying, (which is unlikely, at this point.) that doesn't excuse the way people have been treating her. She is a person and deserves respect and support.
Melanie also doesn't deserve to be attacked. I wish I could say more, but I honestly can't until she speaks up. But either way, as outsiders of the situation we shouldn't be making any claims or judgements until both parties have spoken.
Anyway make sure to have a good day! :3
Btw,timothy is messing up the story
One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed
The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game
One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game
The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover
And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up"
And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything
And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together"
And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi
keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black.
we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July.
I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not.
and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face
@@me-nh7rk Yeah but she also stated in her video that people started spreading fake confessions that she never made.
@@apricot6789 and? Is that mel's fault?
@@me-nh7rkso melanie wears wigs! Timothy never changed her story
@@me-nh7rk no but it shows how vicious her fans are. Straight up ruining someones life because THEY were allegedly a victim.
Any one here in 2024 becouse Timothy is back??
👇🏽
Yep 💔 I hope melly is inno bc my Ive spend 1,758 dollars on merch and other
@@C.ralineJ0neZ me too…
Sadly, people kept bringing this up
I hope mel is doing OK rn
@@C.ralineJ0neZexactly, I couldn't afford any Mel merch but I love her and I hope she's innocent💗
@@Scar.Scar- yep
Everytime Timothy drops music, we'll be coming back here ig.
remember when this song first came out always loved this song kinda upset it’s not more known❤️
frrr
FRR LIKE PEOPLE GOTTA NOTICE THIS ITS SO GOOD I LOVE IT SM ❤ THERE LIKE “why you singing her unreleased songs fake fan and how do you know it lyric from lyric” IM LIKE BBFR
Its cause people think its unreleased, she only released it on SoundCloud
I just kinda hope not a lot of people find it because they’ll just dunk on it. The Timothy Heller situation is better set aside.
@@ENJKIoh..
Dear Timothy- regret does not equal r@pe
dear melanie- silence does not mean yes
@@cantcatchfrankie what😭?
@@Heyhjdj its not hard to understand my comment lmao.
@@cantcatchfrankie Yes it is?? why the fuck else would I say that??
@@Heyhjdj because melanie stated "she never said no to what we did together" but did timothy say yes?? did she? didnt think so.
“She didn’t say no” and it took you 6 YEARS to believe her victim??
parasocial relationships are crazy
Stripped that saying right out of its context
Not people comparing this to toxic gossip train 😭
💀
This aged like milk
The fact that all of this happened 7 years ago and now again.
Like there is something so off about Timothy.
And on top of that it's always when Melanie finally gets the recognition she deserves that Timothy comes from a random corner like sleep paralysis
Anyways I am not taking sides unless one of them has prove.
I will still listen to Melanie. 🤷🏻♀️
Timothy's back for fame and whine, whine, whine once again... Unfortunately, she did this successfully TWICE now.
ermmm bc why not let the new fans know what kind of person mel is? lol… also it doesn’t matter how long ago SA happened?? you still always fight for your justice ? lmao gross comment
@@pompompurrrinnnomg I am so gross because I don't believe everything the Internet tells me to believe in 😱
Get it together and read my comment again and read what I wrote. I will not side with anyone (even tho there was tons of proof 7 years ago that Timothy lied and was literally so unhinged talking about Melanie and their little erotic game. Like I am a multiple sexual abuse victim and I know how it feels like to talk just even a bit about my abusers. So the fact that she was like "oh yeeeeaaahh this. Yeah I chose that erotic game cause it looked fun 😬" is way more disgusting to me than my comment saying that something isboff with her
@@pompompurrrinnn and also we shouldn't forget how she cosplayed Mel after the so called SA incident.. WHO TF DOES THAT AFTER A SA????
So of course victims like myself cannot relate to her lmao.
@@pompompurrrinnnand yet I still said I will not side with anyone cause who knows maybe Timothy is actually so damn out of her mind. But still won't pick a side until there is proof of Mel doing it or Timothy actually admitting the lies. 🤷🏻♀️
This song is so realistic tbh having fake people in your life is so toxic and makes you rethink your trust in everyone
1:00 trusted to many fake people when I was young
TIMOTHY 😡😡😡
TIMOTHY👹
TIMOTHY 👹
TIMOTHY 😡
TIMOTHY 👺
Going back and tried relistening to this song, I couldn't take how much the world hated Melanie by that time that gave hindrance to her success. SHE WAS INNOCENT ALL THIS TIME, YET PEOPLE WAS SO BLINDSIDED BY LIES.
Most people don't believe it anyway she still has fans around the world and the situation calmed down
Bc just bc a victim is female doesn’t mean she can’t rape other victims women can tape women etc etc but a cry of help isn’t always genuine. She was always innocent. She put out two “testimonies” this one and the tweet and somehow it didn’t need to be incredibly long like Timothy’s.
Personally i believed her since first day
There is no guarantee at all that she is innocent.
where is the actual proof that she is innocent?
It would be wild if her response would be to release this on all platforms
OMG
she doesn’t want to make money off the allegations tho
Who’s back here after Timothy is still yapping 👇
meee 😁
HELAUR
Meeee
Meee
Me
Some people in this comment section is so dumb. First of all, you can’t take this case to court, SA cases can’t be settled in court since it takes time and money to do so, and Melanie is richer than Timothy, she can easily win with a good lawyer. Second, why are people treating this like an annoyance? It’s insulting to Timothy and is just disgusting. Third, why are people saying “I’m staying netrual until there’s more evidence” what evidence do you need??? Pictures or videos? And Melanie already said “She never said no to what we chose to do TOGETHER.” Just because she never said no, doesn’t mean she said yes, otherwise Melanie would have said she consented. Fourth, ALWAYS BELIEVE THE VICTIM, it’s always important to believe the victim and to always take their side, you should never doubt them, as it’s insulting. Number five, why do people act like they know Timothy and Melanie in real life??? If you say Melanie is innocent, where’s your proof? Timothy saying that other celebrities SA’d her is a fake account made by a Melanie stan that wanted to get Melanie out of trouble. Now let me ask you something, would you rather believe a possible liar, or rapist in this case? You decide. Thank you.
FRRR I LOVE YA!!!
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT!!
YES
IIt's no point telling them this, her fandom is all little kids who obviously doesn't know anything
@@lukaslourd Hello! I'm a Melanie fan under 13, I use her songs for comfort.
None of her fans are 'dumb'.. It's only that at the current timeframe, Only about a week into the accusations being brought up again, There stands literally NO proof for either person. Screenshots and pictures are very easily faked, and Melanie hasn't said anything about it quite yet. I'm not believing anyone!- Until Melanie or Timothy gives full proof to the accusations, We should wait it out a month, (Or at least I did).. Purely because if this was a 🍇 case, I've already seen so many 🍇 and death threats being passed between people in simple arguments about this. Even if Timothy is the victim, She completely deserves kindness and recognition. NOT more violence passed to anyone simply for trying to speak up.
-Sincerely, A random person.
Why did Timothy start the accusation when the trilogy tour started to get WAY bigger
it didnt tho
@@reginageorge979 yes it did when the accusations came back Melanie was still starting/ almost in the middle of the biggest tour of her life for your advice. ;)
still makes me tear up.
Me too 💀
“history repeats itself” no it’s people being held accountable for their actions!!
No, it is history repeats itself. Timothy isn't a victim, she's a liar.
@@Alissa_FellowArtistYa
@@Alissa_FellowArtistpeople like you are so gross. imagine you getting sexually assaulted and then when you tell your story everyone decides to call you a liar, doxxes you, harasses you off the internet, etc. you wouldn't like that very much, would you? have some fucking human decency jesus christ
@@averageyoutubeuser16 We don't know the true, so we can't say too much. The better is stay neutral for now.
@@MatiasCabrera10000all i'm saying is to put yourself in her shoes before you immediately dismiss her as a liar
how can you write a diss track about your literal victim whom you literally sexually assaulted. absolutely insane.
There isn't any diss word in this song. She just called out a fake friend. Remember these are all " allegations " ! There was no evidence of her sexually assaulting Timothy.
its not a diss track are we listening to the same song
@lbbmood we don’t know if she is or not.
You can think what you want about the situation, but this is not a diss track
Were you at the sleepover? how do you know Melanie Sa'd her?? This isn't me saying "Timthoy is lying" bc we don't know that for sure but you didn't go to the sleepover so how do you know what happened? Just asking
We all know why we came here
Yes
The 🍇 allegations:(
Again???
Yep
Yep
i genuinely dont know what to think tbh, they have so much dirt on Mel but every single time since the accusations came out Timothy's been proven a liar every time. Ive been listening to Mel since before the accusations came out and i supported her the entire time but i think she really needs to speak up about this. Im hoping she's innocent because that would mean that someone wasnt assaulted but if Timothy isnt telling the truth shes really determined to see her lose her career genuinely. Also how is this a diss track? it sounds like shes venting, nobody is dissing anybody.
exactly! timothy’s name was never brought up. there was probably some subliminal mentions, but how else is she gonna express herself?
Where was she proven to be lying?
@@nyasiah1311 theres a whole Twitter thread about it and these like multiple videos saying that she lied because a lot of things she says contradicts
The only ‘proof’ against Timothy was fake, it was made my Mel fans so she hasn’t been proven a liar
@@PantryPirate526 idk what ur talking about tbh there's a whole Twitter thread and it seems to make a lot of sense to me.
my question for the people that believe timothy lied is: why? why would she, after years of harassment, doxxing, bullying etc. still stand by the accusations? why would she put herself at risk of being doxxed again? fame? support?
she's not getting anything good from this. it's not fun. she's not having a good time. and yet, she's still here telling us her story.
This is what my mom said and one of the MAIN reasons why I’m standing with Timothy. This is coming from someone who’s liked Mel since like 2018 - 2019
LITERALLY!! Finally someone with a brain omg.
If it happened i feel absolutely bad for her (we still don’t know). And nobody deserves to be doxxed.
But, why did she only come out during the crybaby and trilogy tour?
@@bigcoconut Idk
@@bigcoconut is there a set time that she’s meant to come out?
well this song aged well..!
It's kinda crazy because this seems EXACTLY like what Timothy is trying to do AGAIN.
I remember vividly when this dropped
Bjork pfp !
björkk😻
0:58 - 1:14 and 1:32 - 1:47 talk about the current/past situation so well.. it needs to be over and done because yes this is probably extremely draining for timothy to bring up but also for melanie because theres a chance it isn’t true and this isn’t the first time it has been brought up.
Listening to this during the mel allegations 😋
Been a mel fan since 2015. I always will support her ❤
She doesn’t care
" i hope melanie isnt lyig cau-" no. if she IS. i feel horrible cause someoen got sexually assaulted. not because" oh my fav singer!!" or " because i bought all her merch"
There's many holes in Timothys story for example I'll say one even tho there's many She said Melanie SA'd her in bed and another time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game
@@Thejwealsand melanie still confirmed that it happened 😂
Wow I can't believe I never heard this beautiful song
It's only released on sound cloud that's why :(
@@hxyleyp yeah i think it's about her point of view during the timothy heller thing but she also only uploaded it on SoundCloud cus it wasn't meant to make money from
why r y’all acting like these allegations are new… it must be the newer cry baby’s crying ab this shit like it’s nothing new…😭
Girl who cried wolf made a new video about it
@@JordynBrown-uf2ok i know but everybody’s acting shocked as if the same thing didn’t happen 7 years ago..
@@tyomiss hey, I’ve heard this song hundreds of times and had no clue what it was about. I’ve been a Melanie Stan for awhile but she comes and goes for a lot of us. I actually had no idea of the allegations, I went to trilogy and have all her records tho. Some of us really didn’t know haha!
Can we normalize not taking sides until both the accused and victim have spoken?
back here again since timothy wont shut up. y'all, timothy only cares about her own accusations when she can either promote her own music, or when she can tear melanie down. she's friends with anyone else who's accused melanie, and overall, she isn't credible because her timeline doesn't make sense, which she blames on outside factors like her icloud being messed up. if you bring up her busted timeline, she starts crying about her being triggered.
people lie sometimes, even about serious topics. you should believe victims, but when they're acting suspicious, you need to think critically. we don't know what happened between them and we never will, but all things considered, timothy doesn't seem like a trustworthy source.
its funny bc one of her ex friends (globelamp) exposed her for saying that "melanie would trigger her" and yet, she knew every single piece of new info of her 😭😭
I am team Melanie💗
SAME
@@RainDoesArt1116 she deserves way better friends,not lunchbox friends:(
yes.
the parasocial relationship goes crazy ❤
@@lizzyzlizsay it. ur obsessed with melanie, ur gonna deny it.
I swear if Melanie isn't innocent im gonna crying... I spended 1.5k on things....
please just sell it if that’s the case 😟
Give it to me 😀😭
@@kokai9023but if she sells it who would buy it if Melanie was guilty (I'm not saying she is, I'm not picking sides)
@@Scar.Scar- i would
timothy gr00med and r*ped a minor btw and she bought a dirty game with melanie and she kept telling her other friend how easy it is to frame someone for r*pe
melanie step out and say something.
she cant bc shes busy w the tyology tour. timothy striked once again at the PERFECT time like she did back in crybaby era when mel was busy🙃
@@M1LK_0F_TH3_S1R3NS_MPERFECTLY CONVENIENT
She said that Timothy “never said no”. A no ISNT a yes
@@lizzyzliz "she never said no to anything WE did TOGETHER" it was also timothys idea of the game, why would the victim play the kidnapper and the r@pist the 'victim of kidnapping'?
@@M1LK_0F_TH3_S1R3NS_M watch “The Melanie Allegations were never disproven” plus Melanie’s statement isn’t any better. Regardless of who’s idea it was, you can still regret it later on. Timothy said that she said no multiple times, but Melanie kept pushing her to have intimacy. This isn’t the first story where people accuse Melanie of this.
She definitely doesn’t understand how consent works it did happen she literally admitted it
Did she say oh yea of course I sa Timothy heller
@@ladariusfreeman she was saying she was lying about the dates and the situation but that was after her comment on the situation admitting that something happened between her and Timothy
it’s very weird and contradictory, it makes her even more suspicious
@@ladariusfreeman look up what Melanie said if you dk
@@KitKatbar168 Timothy also sus for using different sleepovers into one story explaining what went down even through they brought that valentine game which was melanie martinez in handcuffs and there was a dice telling them to roll for this or that look at favours video for the full breakdown of what happened it 2 hrs long and has no bias in it.
@@ladariusfreemanthat 2 hr video has misinformation in it, also, how are you gonna explain the other 4 victims?
I hope this song literally haunts Timothy's brain when she's trying to go to sleep any quiet moment she has I hope it haunts her
Real smooth, invalidating an SA victim
@@helenaperez4343she literally lied
@@helenaperez4343it's confirmed she lied babe... 6 whole years ago 💀
@@lunalolo8605 look, I’m not an expert on the topic, but far as I can find, it was never confirmed she lied. Timothy has stood by her story. And if anything, Melanie backed the story up, with her “She never said no” statement.
@@helenaperez4343 there so many videos of people looking into the topic and they all say timothy lied. and im pretty sure timothy even apologized for lying.
its like bittersweet tragedy but in afterschool ep style
It's sad that after all of these years i still relate to this song
some of yall never heard of vent art and it shows, go away lmao melanie is allowed to have feelings and express them when ex friends try to ruin her career
I love Melanie but this song is actually trash.
Too fucking bad
oh.
#MELISINNOCENT
green aura with flies
WE 👏DONT 👏KNOW 👏FOR 👏SURE 👏
@@sabr_inappropriatepiggyback
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#melisinnocent
Say it loud for the people in the back !!💥🫡
We all know why we are back right now
I’ve been a crybaby since 2016 I remember the accusations and I listened to all her music and patiently waited for her to come back and release more music always been a supporting fan !😊💕 thanks for sharing your music Mel!💕
well here we are again
Frr
:c
im so scared! melanie needs to speak up because i am so confused to the point i am getting anxiety becuase of my worries D:
@@earthworm_sally2018 same😢😭
@@CreatorSukichannel im am actually crying rn. melanie plz speak up
Here we go :( I’m heartbroken 💔
They could never make me hate you Melanie. You’ve been through so much
this gives me After School vibes.🥰
It was recorded in 2017 that’s why
@@mrmimefan99no cause after school was in 2019
@@Melina__Martinezafter school was 2020 and it’s sessions started in 2017
Me coming back here after the timothy situation just resurfaced
Piggyback needs to be on streaming services.
But she doesn’t wanna make any profit from the accusations
It’s on sound cloud
"she didn't say no"
think it through guys and remember it please
yes, if melanie had consent, why didnt she say that timothy said yes? its obvious melanie is lying
real ones been through this before and are not falling for it the second time, #melanieisinnocent 😚🤞🏽
Green aura with flies goes crazy rn
1. melanie probably doesnt want to take this to court (especially if she did assault timothy.) because it'll take quite a while and fun fact, courts do not take SA allegations seriously!!!
2. melanie admitted to getting intimate with her and her statement saying "she never said no" is a big red flag because if melanie did have consent she wouldve said that timothy said yes to being intimate.
3. if your 🍇ist is well known and famous, speaking up at that time would raise more awareness to your experience and make people aware.
4. of course timothy is going to say the same thing because SHES SAYING WHAT HAPPENED!! she is saying her experience of what melanie did and theres not much more to say because IT IS WHAT HAPPENED. its not like you can add on to the traumatic experience because people accuse you of 'saying the same thing'
and yes, you ARE wrong! melanie has most likely 🍇ed timothy and your heads are too far up your ass to realize it because you guys KISS THE GROUND melanie walks on. its not even funny how much faith yall have in her, you guys dont even KNOW her.
also, melanie NEVER spoke up about timothy being doxxed or trying to stop it. and before you say "well melanie doesnt have to!!! timothy accused her of-" she spoke up about oliver tree, didnt she? whats so bad about telling people to stop doxxing timothy?? its because MELANIE DOESNT CARE!
As a r*pe survivor.
I believe in both of them.
Melanie did not r*pe her
Tim might have changed her mind mid intamacy and didnt say anything at that point.
Still. Private conversation would hage beeb ideal. I feel tim brings this up very conveniently every tine melanie is doing good .
Perhaps sone envy? Jealousy or malicious intent.
This is a truly annoying situationm melanie already responded with this song and her words. " she didnt say no to what qe chose to do together"
Meaining they bith agreed.
Maybe Tim changed her mind but dudnt verbalize that so melanie couldnt have known.
Consent can be denied ANY POINT IN TIme.
But if you are silent while your into it already (WITHOUT BEING COERCED) . Then its not r*pe.
EXACTLY!
I think this is probably what happened ❤
finally someone explained it!
And no one is mentioning the fact after Timothy said she ‘quit’ music, It’s back on her TikTok account again, And I wonder why…
Listening to it now. Can’t fucking believe Timothy is back and spreading shit about Melanie. Give it a rest already.
R4PE allegations should get a rest?
@@pompompurrrinnndifamation
*(ALLEGEDLY) gets graped and decides to come back on the internet and talk about it because last time was ran off the internet by people who believed ONE CLAIM by (ALLEGED) abuser*
Mel fans: give it a rest already
do you realize how FOCKED UP that sounds??? Theres literal grape allegations against her and instead of waiting for a response, you try defending her without any proof she DIDNT do it.
@@pompompurrrinnnwhen they are bs yeh
@@pompompurrrinnnif they’re not real, of course