Evolution is a done deal | Corey - Austin, TX | Atheist Experience 676
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- Corey from Austin, Texas calls in to tell the hosts that the show is no longer on the air, and then asks what the show is all about. It turns out the the cable company repeatedly interrupted the television broadcast of this show with promos and service announcements for local cable users.
This is an edited clip from The Atheist Experience 676 of September 26, 2010, with Matt Dillahunty and Jeff Dee (topic: Viewer Calls). You can watch this entire episode without interruptions on Ustream.tv. The interrupted television broadcast is archived on Blip.tv.
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The caller began by revealing he had never heard the word atheist, thus had no idea how to pronounce it. Another genius.
I love the one word, short phrase answers.
"How were we created"
"Humans weren't created"
"What happened?"
"We evolved."
"How do you know that?"
"Because we have evidence"
That shit totally cracks me up
If you drive south on I-75, somewhere in southern Georgia there is a billboard that proclaims "Evolution is a lie!" Not "Evolution is wrong" or "Evolution is mistaken" it's "Evolution is a lie."
This means, in these people's eyes, ALL the scientists in the world got together and said, "let's make up this thing called evolution JUST TO MAKE CHRISTIANS LOOK BAD because creationism is so true and so proven that we just can't do our science stuff."
That had me laughing all the way to Florida.
Now that's funny
+Coy Hampton welcome to what a global persecution complex looks like.
Space Ghost 53 Actually, we laugh!
LordKellthe1st I lived and worked in Chicago for a while and when watching the tv, I first came across the god channels and I couldn't believe how they got away with it. I often holiday there, but the area to see is the Deep South, there are more churches than shops!!!! My son and me tried to count the churched while driving from Pigeon Forge to Nashville, we gave up. It's amazing how a supposed advanced nation could be so backward, religion appears to over-ride everything and it's SUPPOSED to be secular, it certainly isn't, the xtian talban rule what was once a country I looked up to.
EVOLUTION IS A LIE WITH ABSOLUTELY NO EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE.
ATHEISTS ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO TRY AND PROVE THAT ALL ATHEIST ARE DUMBER THAN MINDLESS NOTHING..
ATHEISM BELIEVES THAT MINDLESS NOTHING MINDLESSLY CREATED LIFE, CONSCIOUSNESS, INTELLIGENCE, THE UNIVERSE FROM NOTHING AND ALL THE LAWS THAT GOVERN THE UNIVERSE FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHATSOEVER.
ALL ATHEIST ARE TO DUMB TO DO WHAT ATHEIST BELIEVE MINDLESS NOTHING DID.
ATHEIST ARE SO DUMB THAT NO ATHEIST CAN STATE 1 THING ATHEISM BELIEVES THAT IS NOT THE RESULT OF MINDLESS NOTHING.
ATHEISM A INTELLECTUAL BANKRUPT RELIGIOUS CULT.
Well, I AM a scientist, I have a doctorate in applied biology and Evolution is definitely true
I don't believe you either. I believe evolution because I can understand it and it all adds up. Just because you're a scientist doesn't make me believe you.
@@mrfester42 As long as you believe that the Theory of Evolution is true, we have no argument
mrfester42
I don’t believe you.
@@larjkok1184 I don't believe you.
Ken Ham Has A PHD And He Is A CREATIONIST And VERY Smart.
I can't get my head around the fact that people in the so-called 21st century ignore all the facts regarding evolution!
Especially when the entire field of modern medicine depends on these facts.
@Kenneth Schrank Not true at all, our bodies are the products of millions of years of trial and error by evolution. The nut cases are the ones like you that arrogantly think you're going to improve on that. The majority of these diseases have been prevented by improved sanitation. Vaccines and especially the flu vaccine is a money racket worth billions. Often the get the strains wrong yet still profit in billions. This is snake oil and fraud.
@Kenneth Schrank The entire foundation of honest modern medicine depends on what we know and have learned from evolution.
@Kenneth Schrank
What is it you're looking to find out? It is true now that people can get by and succeed in many areas without believing in evolution. We're knowledgeable enough and specialized to the point where people can be taught a lot of things regardless of what they personally believe.
@Kenneth Schrank
I didn't say it was. I made a quite different statement and offered to provide some information. If you're not interested that's fine.
This guy is a poster child for the failure of the American science education system.
You can't put lipstick on a pig and expect anything good to come of it (at least outside of Alabama)
Evolution Is False Pagan Mythology.
Kevin X lol
@@SpatialAndTemporalEvangelicals rofl
I have a feeling this guy didnʻt pay too much attention when he was in school--whether it was public or religious.
"what do think when people die?" "they're dead" that made me lol
"So you just believe what other people tell you?". You mean, like religion?
Almost everything I know came from someone else. The difference between what I learn from scientists and what I learned from theists, is the scientists actually provided valid reasons for what they were teaching. Not just parroting words or their interpretation of some ancient texts. That is an absolutely MASSIVE difference.
I think it's projection lol
@@joecoolioness6399 MASSIVE. Seriously MASSIVE!
Its hard for some people to understand this but when we die....we are dead. That's what dying means. It means you die and don't come back to life. People understand what a cat dying or a frog dying means but when it comes to them dying they think it means they really get to live forever and go to a happy place. Its based on nothing more than what makes them feel good and what they want to be true. I don't think most would even want to know if its not true.
+spaveevo i think you now understand what a security blanket is and why i'm fond of calling it such.
+spaveevo Agreed. I'm also firmly of the belief that without the promise of an afterlife, people wouldn't give a crap about God or religion. Their beliefs are entirely self-serving and they're unable to reconcile that with themselves and accept reality.
spaveevo THEY CAN'T HANDEL THE TRUTH
Take a huge hit of DMT and you may realize the frequency field of consciousness and how it tunes into our bodies and even various realities, one thing you will certainly discover is that we still have much to learn about the true nature of reality.
The best way I have ever heard it put, not sure who said this and it's a bit of a paraphrase: People wonder what happens when you die, but the way I see it it's not all that different than the way it was before you were born.
This caller makes me depressed in humanity.
what scientists tell u is what u take
hillerm except u won't have the time to investigate ever
y scientific claim you may even be qualified fif
Terry Paige Sure, but that's your problem, not science's.
green31sw no the problem of our existance we know everything so we rely on people
Terry Paige Try again. This time, though, make a coherent statement.
A favorite line I saw: "Arguing with a creationist is like playing chess with a pigeon. You may be the best player in the world, but they will still knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut around triumphantly."
Humans have not just evolved from apes, we are apes. That we belong in the family of great apes was first pointed out in the early 17th century by Carl Linnaeus - a creationist.
@Kenneth Schrank
No, he's not.
Humans have evolved. But after hearing this caller I'm not sure that's true for all humans.
You don't understand evolution any more than the caller, then.
Corey: “God is better than you in every way.”
Except for existing.😈
It’s amazing how little Christians know about atheists. Not all Christians, but it would be nice to have more educated Christians call in.
TheKosmikid: yeah, it really would, but there are diminishing returns, you know, the more educated a Christian (or any believer) gets, the less likely they are to continue believing. So at some point, truly educated believers will NEVER call in, unless they call to say, "I used to believe, but then I learned some things."
There are such things as well educated Christians, it baffles me how someone can be well educated yet believe that less than 10,000 years ago every species in the planet went onto a boat with a 500 year old man for 40 days while the world was flooded by an angry God who lacked compassion and forgiveness for the next 2000 years because he placed a magic apple tree in a garden knowing that Adam and Eve would eat it anyway therefore condemning the world until the return of his son who he had tortured and killed.
Matt is a well educated Christan =)
There is not a theist alive that either A. understands what atheism or an atheist is. Or B. Doesnt distort enormously what atheism or an atheist is.
Not many call in because they know they will get their ass handed to them
You know it just hit me why I watch the show. Some of these callers are so dumb that it makes me feel like I'm a genius.
'what do you think happens when people die?'
'they're death'
badudambedamp
dead*
hahaha i was looking for this comment
"I could care less about any so-called laws of scientific anything"
This much is obvious. Note that this is tantamount to saying you don't actually care about believing what's true.
When he said "What is god?" I instantly started to sing "baby don't hurt me, no more!" Damn you Haddaway!
"What do you guys think after people die?"
"They're dead."
LOL! hahaha
THEIR CONSCIOUSNESS CONTINUES AS A GHOST SOUL OR SPIRIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THAT'S NOT FUNNY!!!!!
YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE SICK IN THE HEAD TO LAUGH AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"What do you guys think of when people die?"
"they're DEAD"
Classic :P
The various aspects of the evolution theory and it's evidence are actually pretty easy to understand even for the average simpleton.
Cory is operating on a 4th grade level. At the very best. But, on the bright side, it's likely all up hill from here.
If Jeff Dee and Matt can't talk about Science because they don't have degrees in Science, then Corey can't talk about the Bible unless he has degrees in Theology as he is just reading what other people wrote in the Bible.
Biologists define evolution as descent with modification. The central idea of biological evolution is that distinct species diverge, meaning they have common ancestors and that all life on Earth is part of a family tree. It's a fact of biology.
Corey is quite ignorant. But, when you spend your time under a rock you can't get too far.....
“How come “. Zeus? I’ve been taught since I was a child that Zeus and Apollo were the god almighty.
No no, Thor is the god .........................
"what do u believe happens after people die?" ---- "their dead..." lol something of that back and forth made me chuckle
"What do you think what happens after people die?"
"They're dead."
It is so disappointing to hear people admit that they have never been to a natural history museum. My daughters were just home from college for spring break, and we tried to compile a list of all the museums we have visited over the years on family vacations. I think we counted 23, and many of those we visited multiple times.
Oh how there are so many others like this caller...
I hope a big television station picks this show up one day.
6:02
"What do you guys think after people die"?
"They're dead."
*Cue techno music*
This was painfully obvious this caller has never questioned his beliefs or anything he was ever taught. Gotta love someone who literally didn’t know what an atheist was until this call and then proceeds to try to lecture our hosts about things they’ve spoke about for YEARS. Pinnacle of ignorance.
You gotta love Matt’s condescending tone 😂
Accepting reality on its own terms
The problem isn't that the caller is stupid. The problem is that he thinks he is smart.
That is the problem in this world.
Stupid people think they're smart
Very intelligent and accomplished people on the other hand think they have way more to do. Lol
@@billneu I was trying to be nice
You’re not allowed to comment on how an internal combustion engine works unless you have a PhD in engineering and 20 years of industry experience.
Anyone can be a scientist. A scientist isn't a qualification. It's someone who is exploring everything using theory and experimentation to conclude the theory. Once your conclusion is reached, anyone can look at it and see for themselves that it's demonstrable.
@Kenneth Schrank
No you don't.
@Kenneth Schrank
I didn't think your comment was worth more effort than what I gave.
@Kenneth Schrank
We have proof. Might I add, if you deem the evidence to be fallible, then prove it wrong. Saying it's wrong is not an argument.
@@BlueRaven893 you scared him off, he deleted all his comments apparently.
@@joecoolioness6399
Maybe so.
Love it at the beginning when Jeff asked "Why should we believe in Gods". You could tell he was thinking, "Fuck...... Good point.... Better change the subject!".
Hoooleeee fuck. One actually could be forgiven for thinking the show went out collecting the dumbest shmucks they can for the episode.
This character has NEVER been to a nat history museum. Still believes that his own knowledge is on a par with everyone else but "scientists".
Dunning Krueger would have had a field day. This place would be a one stop shop for study material.
'I changed the channel and you guys are no longer on TV, though. It said something about the Atheist Experience or something.'
I lolled, Oh, did I lol.
I'm not a scientist but I have learned about electronics. I have learned from what other people who have done countless electronic experiments have discovered, and who have applied knowledge gained from people who discovered things before them. I can do the same experiments they have done to see that electronics is a valid science. I can build circuits from a schematic by connecting components together and making something that works. I can hold a computer in my hand and stick it in my pocket, and have a basic understanding of how it works. No Christian will ever question my knowledge of electronics because I'm not a scientist or engineer.
But, for some reason, they require me to be an A-level, triple-board certified, published biologist in order to say that I have the same understanding of evolution as I do electronics, or else evolution is totally false.
Even the cable company got bored by this caller.
I have proof that god exists.
His name is Jeff Dee
All hail to the mighty Dee
the funny thing is..
he would disagree 🤣
@@dodumichalcevski
Disagree all he wants... Evolution is still a fact no matter how much some people dont like it.
I dont like the fact that Im a broke ass disabled fat turd, but hey, that dont change the fact that its what I am. Evolution is a fact and the sad truth is, that some people dont like it but they need to accept it or prove it wrong with actual proof, not just feelies.
According to this caller, I guess I have to be a computer programmer to understand how to play Battlefield on my PC.
Why don't you believe gods exist?
Well, why should we?
Holy shit, can't answer that let me change the subject quick.
One of the problems with this show is that the callers aren't the highest quality.
That's what makes it great
Ric Rouser It's quite ironic that you complain about religion being suppressed, and here you are suppressing my argument. Because you seem so adamant about deleting my comments and wanting to appear as the winner here's my response:
*"Communists thought they were good too"*
The Communists may not have worshipped a God, but they did worship a cause, and they were determined to destroy anything that got in its path. They weren't striving for the good of mankind, they were striving for the good of their nation. It's funny, you accuse Atheists of making generalisations and yet here you are equating Atheists to the Chinese Communists who slaughtered the Tibetans.
*"If atheism is not ideology.."*
Those things exist to educate, to help people understand what Atheism actually is, and the sorts of arguments there are for rejecting Theism. However, there is no 'Doctrine of Atheism', we don't have a bible that we follow that says "An Atheist must do _x_ and must not do _y_, must think _a_ and must not think _b_" so no, Atheism is not an ideology.
*"Why do they call people who belileve different than they do stupid..."*
Like I said earlier, it isn't your beliefs that earn you the insults. It's the fact that you so ardently hold those beliefs despite not having good reason or evidence. You let the bible dictate your life, you take your morals from it, and you believe the myths written in it without good justification and overwhelming evidence to the contrary. *That* is why you get insulted.
*"the communists mocked the tibetans' holy books before they proceeded to murder...."*
While it's possible that insults can develop into hatred, that doesn't necessarily mean that all insults _must_ become hatred. Christianity has been on the receiving end of insults for centuries, since the days of Voltaire, and yet there doesn't seem to be any indication of a purge on Christians. Christianity is the world's most popular religion, the Catholic Church is a ludicrously powerful organisation. Christianity and your right to practice it is not being "suppressed".
We all throw insults at each other. Conservatives insult Liberals, meat-eaters insult vegans, yet you don't hear them cry "Hater!". Don't you think that the adult thing to do would be to quit whining, and to respond to insults and criticism with arguments and evidence to justify your beliefs? Instead of simply trying to censor them as hate and play the helpless victim.
You need to stop confusing Atheism with Anti-Theism, the two are not interchangeable. There are many Atheists like myself who are perfectly fine with people believing in whatever they want to believe in. It's when religion tries to impose itself on other people and causes harm that I take issue. When you have Christians trying to ban abortion and gay marriage, trying to dictate what is and is not taught in schools. When you have LGBT kids committing suicide because they're being tormented and disowned by their Christian families. *That* is when I take issue.
I can't figure out whether Corey planned this or really was just randomly calling to tell them about the broadcast.
"they're dead" lol
Wow, that caller had a condescending tone to his voice...and yet he completed avoided taking any position that he might have to try to defend...what a coward.
If it wasn't for science and it's methods, and down to a deity only, they wouldn't be having that conversation. The irony....
And I too. As John Stuart Mill said in 'On Liberty', Any opinion is worth expressing and any opinion is worth hearing.
love it that Jeff dident tolerate the bs of ''is you an expert in all these fields that demanded life long studies to expand'' with the natural ''are you a expert thologian aka authority on religious texts and what they mean''
and then the obvious ''no sorry science provides evidence for its claims and statistical chances for things while religion makes assertions of absolutes tht never is proved''
When the guy asked at 1:18 if they believed in religion and Matt answered a lazy "no" I could'd almost read his mind saying "Oh fuck here we go again!".
nick rupa is poisoning this video too?
I thought we schwacked him on the evolution and giraffe necks video?
"Don't fight evolution, because you will never win.
'Nature never hurries but it is always on time'…
KNOWING that is true. I was taught to respect the planet and its process.
I love it when matt and jeff do the calls, always concise and entertaining. The rest of the hosts are fantastic, but I just get a little extra kick outta these two lol
You don't believe if evolution is true or false. You either understand it or you don't
Evolution simply means change over time and that is a fact. The pressure for change and natural selection is the thing that Darwin codified and has been proven time and again since over the centuries.
Oh no that's just *MICRO EVOLUTION* 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@FluffyFeralMarmot
This is why we attempt to verify any information we receive in accordance with the available evidence. This is the most informed judgement it is possible for us to make, as eventually the point of unreasonable doubt is reached.
"Evolution is a done deal." I agree. That turkey is completely roasted.
davids11131113 I believe the written word of God - from cover to cover, with apologies to none.
mrtadreamer Well then you're just an ignorant brainwashed sycophant to a old book full of nonsense which we know is not true today. Also, no way do I believe you're actually this huge theist you're just a troll, you're not fooling me anyway.
davids11131113 True, I'm no huge theist. I'm just an old guy from the good ole US of A...who just happens to believe the word of God from cover to cover. With apologies to none.
mrtadreamer Wow a cover to cover guy. Fantastic. So you believe unruly children should be stoned to death?
Michael Dennis Nah, that's so old school. In the 21st century we're much more "civilized" than that. Instead of waiting for them to grow up to become criminals and delinquents, we just execute them in the womb while their still innocent of any kind of wrongdoing - for a handsome price of course.
Evolution is the best explanation we have for the how modern man came about. By the way, I never said that it's impossible for there to be a species somewhere in this universe that surpasses us, but if there is, there is no evidence of that species ever visiting this planet. There is no reason to believe there is an intelligent being that is responsible for our existence.
This caller = do not smoke meth, drink, and shoot heroin with access to a phone.
There you go Myhope. You're actually discussing the issue in the video. Talking with the people. You're not just here to preach. That's how you don't wind up having every atheist crawl out the woodworks to tell you to beat it. Nice work man. Real proud of the progress you made.
Edited, you mean, is there proof of the big bang? Yes.
The benefit is that my decisions are made in light of a belief that is consistent with reality.
This caller sounds like he just discovered he can breathe air through his nose.
"There is a heck of a lot more that we don't know than we do know"
Yes, there is. But there are still plenty of things that we *do* know, and that we do know with a great deal of certainty.
I happen to be optimistic. There are things we know, and there are things we don't know, YET.
My fave combo = Matt & Jeff
They don't conflict, they are mutually exclusive. Instinct doesn't tell you anything about the world, but you use the word synonymous to faith. Faith is not a virtue, in it's core it's just gullibility.
trolling level: Mankey
Great answer. Our teachers when I was twelve seemed to imply that evolution was that animals would migrate to a new habitat and over a few years, they would start to change physically in order to suit their environment when - as we both know - mutations or slight differences inherent within animals in which happened to be beneficial in the habitat they were in had a better chance to survive and thus pass on their genetic material thereby passing on these traits to their offspring, etc.
Is Corey an automotive engineer? Why is he driving? Does he fly without being an aviation engineer?
Because we have evidence...
Those little fractions of adverts coming up every now and then were nerve racking.
@Pelonetillo If you want to stick with the apple example, that's fine. If someone told me they had two apples and threw one how do I know: whether apples were available at the time and place where he purports to have obtained them, whether he was capable of actually obtaining them (had money, etc.), whether he was capable of identifying them correctly as apples, and whether he was physically capable of throwing them. Any of these could have made his claims impossible.
keep up the good work i love this show
@Pelonetillo I don't know whether it's possible or not. If someone makes a claim it may or may not have happened. If it didn't happen, it may not have happened because it was impossible.
@Pelonetillo Fair enough. That's the kind of thing you can really believe...personal observation. All else is putting faith in someone else.
Self-causation is the ultimate status of every form of the theory of evolution, every concept of an infinite regress and naturalism. To believe in self-causation one must suspend reason believe in that Shakespearean dilemma "To Be or Not to Be". Nothing can be the cause of its own existence, otherwise it will have to exist and not exist at the same time in the same relationship.
The caller had it right, though. Most of a person's knowledge is acquired from other people. You have to make a judgement on whether to accept someone else's claims or not on most things, even if you're an expert in a particular field.
Yeah evidence of evolution is Other people thinking about how they are doing ?? What the hell does that mean
The ant waves it’s legs at the mountain they are trying to move. The theist waves it’s fist at the mountain of evidence for evolution.
@Pelonetillo Ultimately, the source of most of your information is other people. It requires FAITH in the observation abilities, analysis, lack of bias, truthfulness, and reporting accuracy of someone else for you to use the data they present.
Not only is the science of anthropology and archeology trustworthy and real, but it is also beautiful. To see these mysteries that have plagued mankind (forever) finally solved and understood is truly wonderful. And the universe we live in is (though not miraculous) wondrous and amazing. And, people who have not looked into the science of these things are missing out on one of the greatest things mankind has ever witnessed.
@Chaoitcme I think the better thing to say to those that claim this is that "yes but the people that I'm believing provide the notes on how they did what they did, the results, and can even post information on how to replicate the same effects or processes so that I can, if I please, witness it for myself. Never do you ask a scientist for evidence and have them say -just have faith-."
This video may be the first I ever saw from AE.
If you've been raised to believe in Santa Claus, it's very difficult to let go.
Most of us were, the difference being, when I questioned santa claus my parents told me the truth. When I questioned god I was told not to question it.
@@joecoolioness6399
My older brother told me that I was found under a gooseberry bush.
It made perfect sense to me.
The bush exists.
Why does the cable company interrupt this video?
I agree, I have no idea why I wrote that and I don't remember doing so. I must've typo'd or something.
The collar was pretty much just shooting the breeze but it did reveal a lot of deficiencies in those answering the questions.
We start by not understanding yet the origin of the energy that produced all the matter in the universe, we don't know how the universe began, we don't know what most of the universe is made of, we don't know how life began, how oxygen or water got to this planet, and although we can prove through the scientific method that there is micro evolution, everything else are inferences, there were also between five and 20 mass extinctions, so not only do we not know the origin of life, but apparently this life which is extremely complex, somehow managed to be so persistent and we haven't even mentioned consciousness…
And to hear someone say that there's possibly life on other planets, thinking all of this could happen again somewhere else is puzzling.
And no, you don't have to be a scientist to believe in macro evolution but I can guarantee you that if you put the evidence in front of these two, meaning all the available fossils, they would have a look on their face like a baby looking at a mobile.
The benefit is that I can accept claims based on demonstrable evidence, and not simply take claims based on 'faith'.
An athiest could easily beleive Jesus existed, but wouldn't beleive he was the son of god. That's something the maniacs of Christianity don't seem to grasp.
Well the technology like computers airplanes and rocket ships kind of lend some support to science being real and accurate
@ZetaSimsoy That was the part that caught my attention, too...
It's news to me. A quick check still shows eight planets, with Pluto being one of five dwarf planets.
Moving Einstein’s term from the left-hand side of his equations to the right-hand side is a small step for a mathematician but a giant leap for a physicist. While it is trivial mathematically to do so, once this term is on the right-hand side, where all the terms contributing to the energy of the universe reside, it represents something completely different from a physical perspective namely new contribution to the total energy. But what kind of stuff could contribute such a term? The answer is, nothing. L Krauss
plus you know you are careful on the road, plus you know people tend to want to protect their property and lives, plus, since you began driving you have had far fewer days with accidents than without. etc., etc., etc.
youre claiming, not pointing out. i have had a lot of success in validating things after the fact, based on trust independent of personal observation.