Slightly improved version of the comp here: ua-cam.com/video/PbF3QaZhmXE/v-deo.html The main strategy remains the same, but small improvements in gold control and mini control. I used level 21 minis in the reclear while trying to see how low it can be done.
I did it again yesterday with level 21 minis. I did drop the Quilboar and focused on tanking with the Earth Elemental. ua-cam.com/video/PbF3QaZhmXE/v-deo.html
This makes it harder than it needs to be. So much easier just to dark iron miner the centre and then death ball right with healer and troll behind then add in extra damage if needed off the centre stone
I played around with the idea a little and I think Fire Elemental (for resistance), no Shaman, and more dps to support the Troll might do it reliably. I'd need to test a lot more for consistency.
You can either try to manipulate the opening by playing something differently or adapt to it. The strategy works. The boss has a random hand, like you, and can open in a multitude of ways. There are ways to counter them all.
Around 4 out of 5 times for me ... °_° Anyhow being a WarCraft Rumble Player since release, I gained a really thick skin. We went through even harder times °_o
The boss has different opening hands. You can try to work on your timings or bait the boss to play something else to get through a specific opening hand. Nothing about the encounter has changed.
Sucks i dont have darkspear troll with poison.. and wont get it either =( edit: My alliance deck doesnt start with miner, and the AI starts with an Huntress, making it impossible (and if you got any influence at blizz devs can you tell them to fix their game.. I have been getting the same error since this patch hits, unables me to restart any mission or quest without having a full reload of the game, i spend more time looking at the loading screens then the game! 7.0.0.100118/100407 error)
You can change your starting hand by changing the slots your minis are in. Just put the miner into one of the slots you get at the start if you need it.
The opening hands are randomized when you first do the fight and then stay that way until you win, at which point they are randomized again. The boss gets different hands at different times.
U do realize this only works if people have the same boss mechanics right...otherwise thus doesn't work...tried it 15x with avg lvl of 25..where are your spiderlings, you double hydra all the other minis boss spawns right off the bat
k i am a little tilted watching this video lol. every.single.time. brumeran turns around ASAP and one shots the harpies but he never turns on yours until the melee is dead lol
I tested it and it still works exactly like in the video. Note that your ground tank will move towards the right and Brumeran will not follow them, so once they are a bit further away, he will let them go. You need to place your tank very close to Brumeran. Also, the AI stops targeting minis it considers dead, so if there are many other minis attacking your tank, Brumeran can switch targets if an ongoing attack will kill the tank.
@@OldGuardian I think I've actually figured this out, having face the same problem and having played a bunch of Chimera in my decks. Each head targets separately, and the 2nd head does not acquire a target until it is preparing to fire/after the first head. In your video examples this was not a problem because you placed the harpies back a ways, but if you spawn a tank on top of the boss, then the harpies on top of it's back, it will acquire the tank, fire, then switch to the harpies on top of it with it's second head. The solution seems to be to just spawn the harpies farther from the boss so it will acquire the 2nd target before the tank walks to far away/the harpies are on top of it.
@@mitchmcnair4222 That was the bets information! - It helped a tone. Plus Dark Iron Miner. Btw. I don't have a troll with posion - harpies are the important mini.
It has not changed. I just did it yesterday with a slightly improved version of this strategy with level 21 minis with all six families: ua-cam.com/video/PbF3QaZhmXE/v-deo.html
@@OldGuardian That is so strange. I just watched the new video and the Boss does not behave like that for me. I’ll try it again later today and see if maybe it was just an issue for a single small patch.
Slightly improved version of the comp here: ua-cam.com/video/PbF3QaZhmXE/v-deo.html
The main strategy remains the same, but small improvements in gold control and mini control. I used level 21 minis in the reclear while trying to see how low it can be done.
I didn't think about a cheese tactic like this despite killing Drakkisath the same exact way not too long ago. Love it, thanks for the guide!
Got a guide before I even have the update available. Dang.
He needs to get it out there first to grab more impressions. You won’t make much revenue if he waited until next week.
Damn, you skipped two zone to destroy moonglade
Moonglade is new, need to do it immediately.
That's a rebrabded Chimaira!!!!
Ambush strategy 👍🏻 I like it
You are the best OldG!
Combine cheat death with the seal fate talent and you dont need to fit execute into your deck
Nice and thanks a lot mate
Great, thanks i can do it under 2 minutes but i need a foolproof full base strategy 😂
Sadly my unbound tanks all get 1-shot. Brumeran kills the tank, turns and kills the harpies before I can cast spell mini.
Same for me. Higher level units than in vid, but somehow weaker?
I did it again yesterday with level 21 minis. I did drop the Quilboar and focused on tanking with the Earth Elemental. ua-cam.com/video/PbF3QaZhmXE/v-deo.html
This makes it harder than it needs to be. So much easier just to dark iron miner the centre and then death ball right with healer and troll behind then add in extra damage if needed off the centre stone
I played around with the idea a little and I think Fire Elemental (for resistance), no Shaman, and more dps to support the Troll might do it reliably. I'd need to test a lot more for consistency.
This strat doesnt work. The spiders at start dont spawn on the left but at the meeting stone and that delays you and you get smoked.
You can either try to manipulate the opening by playing something differently or adapt to it. The strategy works. The boss has a random hand, like you, and can open in a multitude of ways. There are ways to counter them all.
Adding a Dark Iron Miner to take the stone early also helps with this issue: ua-cam.com/video/PbF3QaZhmXE/v-deo.html
Since Patch Game Crashes in 9/10 trys
Around 4 out of 5 times for me ... °_°
Anyhow being a WarCraft Rumble Player since release, I gained a really thick skin.
We went through even harder times °_o
There's a new data patch out right now (version 99905), hopefully that fixes the crashes. I just got it a minute ago.
@@OldGuardian Good to know, will Update when at Home. 👍🏻
Since cenarius week theguide isn’t working anymore because of an owl killing all harpies
The boss has different opening hands. You can try to work on your timings or bait the boss to play something else to get through a specific opening hand. Nothing about the encounter has changed.
What If I dont have bloodlust
You make this look so easy but ai doesn’t work like you had
They added more minis on defense at the start now
Sucks i dont have darkspear troll with poison.. and wont get it either =( edit: My alliance deck doesnt start with miner, and the AI starts with an Huntress, making it impossible (and if you got any influence at blizz devs can you tell them to fix their game.. I have been getting the same error since this patch hits, unables me to restart any mission or quest without having a full reload of the game, i spend more time looking at the loading screens then the game! 7.0.0.100118/100407 error)
You can change your starting hand by changing the slots your minis are in. Just put the miner into one of the slots you get at the start if you need it.
I am at the next one I can take all towers but can’t manage to dmg boss enough
What is minimum lvl to kill this Boss?
You see the Ø-deck level of each fraction in the video.
So if your are good, you maybe can even get off 1-2 levels?!?
No idea this early. I'll get to the F2P testing later.
Around 20. I did it with level 21 minis here: ua-cam.com/video/PbF3QaZhmXE/v-deo.html
does the game play differently for different people? my boss is spawning all the adds so it times up with boss reaching the nukepoint
The opening hands are randomized when you first do the fight and then stay that way until you win, at which point they are randomized again. The boss gets different hands at different times.
U do realize this only works if people have the same boss mechanics right...otherwise thus doesn't work...tried it 15x with avg lvl of 25..where are your spiderlings, you double hydra all the other minis boss spawns right off the bat
This works with every start. You just need to adjust to yours.
k i am a little tilted watching this video lol. every.single.time. brumeran turns around ASAP and one shots the harpies but he never turns on yours until the melee is dead lol
Same for me.
Maybe they hotfixed this strat.
I tested it and it still works exactly like in the video. Note that your ground tank will move towards the right and Brumeran will not follow them, so once they are a bit further away, he will let them go. You need to place your tank very close to Brumeran. Also, the AI stops targeting minis it considers dead, so if there are many other minis attacking your tank, Brumeran can switch targets if an ongoing attack will kill the tank.
@@OldGuardian I think I've actually figured this out, having face the same problem and having played a bunch of Chimera in my decks. Each head targets separately, and the 2nd head does not acquire a target until it is preparing to fire/after the first head. In your video examples this was not a problem because you placed the harpies back a ways, but if you spawn a tank on top of the boss, then the harpies on top of it's back, it will acquire the tank, fire, then switch to the harpies on top of it with it's second head. The solution seems to be to just spawn the harpies farther from the boss so it will acquire the 2nd target before the tank walks to far away/the harpies are on top of it.
@@mitchmcnair4222 That was the bets information! - It helped a tone. Plus Dark Iron Miner. Btw. I don't have a troll with posion - harpies are the important mini.
Encounter has been patched. Boss switches targets and claps DPS ignoring tanks.
It has not changed. I just did it yesterday with a slightly improved version of this strategy with level 21 minis with all six families: ua-cam.com/video/PbF3QaZhmXE/v-deo.html
@@OldGuardian That is so strange. I just watched the new video and the Boss does not behave like that for me.
I’ll try it again later today and see if maybe it was just an issue for a single small patch.
Which HCs are the best to complete the 2 cenarion quests you reckon?
The strategy does work but its very inconsistent.
How do I go to this stage?
Moonglade is after Blackrock Mountain. In the map, it is at the northern part of the western continent.
i mean if we can make tries --' are they gonna fix the crashes ?
There's a new data patch out right now (version 99905), hopefully that fixes the crashes. I just got it a minute ago.
@@OldGuardian didn't fix the crashes.
@@vladn4321 It did for me.
It’s not even live so many spoilers
It is live.
I hate them all 😂
IT DOESNOT WORK BRO
It most certainly does. I just did it again yesterday with level 21 minis with all six families: ua-cam.com/video/PbF3QaZhmXE/v-deo.html