@@rewriting-history In the video when you showed the map you said that this was all the land the spanish empire used to controlled which is wrong since it didn't include the spanish netherlands, milan and sardinia.
@@AdrianTresentsCobos I'm not saying it did. He said that the territory shown on the map was all the land spain used to own, which is false. I was not referring to that specific year. But all the territory spain owned in it's history.
There is one really important thing about the carlists, they supported de centralization a lot which would help a lot keeping the empire toguether. Also is likely that eventually the capital is moved to mexico as spain itself was probably the weakest area of the empire and since spain intermixed with locals eventually there would likely be given equal votes american spanish and peninsular spanish and "tye colony" would be closer to spain itself
@@rewriting-history the spanish constitution that ferdinand refused gave equal rights to the spanish on both sides of the athlantic and were seen as equals, not the philipines, those were much more of a colony, and probably after 1 or 2 generations it would be more of an american state more worried about brazil usa or canada (uk) than european affairs as mainland spain was a backwater compared to the american parts. In the spanish empire fir every 10 gold coins 1 was used in europe and 9 in the americas. Thats the reason why spain was irrelevant after loosing the empire whike france or uk quickly recovered
@@jonC1208Today the quality of Life is better in Spain than France or U.K and today the U.K its a simple troupe of U.S and France IS obsvoously no a first superpower .
@@Benito-lr8mz currentmy the uk or france has a higuer gdp per capita. But my point is that france after loosing its empire quickly got another as did the uk but spain never recovered
If the Spanish empire is not as popular as the Mongol or British, it will be a joke. We discovered 3 continents: America (most important event in history), Oceania and Antarctica, as well as the first circumnavigation of the world, and the first globalization, bringing the world into the modern era. In addition, we had a hegemony in Europe for 150 years. Napoleon 15 years. Hitler 3 years. British Empire in Europe, hegemonic: 0 years. Spain had lands in Europe for 457 years. All the countries of Western Europe were marked by the presence of the Spanish empire, which was 200 years in the Spanish Netherlands, 160 years in parts of France and Germany, Spanish emperor in Germany, Spanish king in England, annexation of the Portuguese empire, 457 years in Italy, participating in the Renaissance. We also made the golden age of culture. Basically Spain saved the Catholic religion in France, southern Germany and the Palatinate, Belgium, Luxembourg, Malta and Italy. It is the only empire that had a hegemony in Europe and a simultaneous global hegemony, with lands in 100 countries on 5 continents and all oceans, with an estimated surface area between 1580-1640 of 30 million km2. Although Spain arrived in America in 1492, and the English arrived in America in 1497, it took the United Kingdom 300 years to equal the surface area of the Spanish empire, and only achieved this around 1890, and with the island, which prevented the Spanish, Napoleon or German invasions. The Spanish legacy has 485 million native speakers. 600 million in total. English mother tongue 380 million (40% born in parts of USA that the British never controlled. In 1900 there were only 15 million civilized people in the British Empire, in Australia and Canada. Basically the British legacy was saved by the USA and its commercial and industrial power after WW2, when the British Empire was dead and French was the majority language. 800 million Catholics thanks to Spain. 200 million in Europe, 500 million in America, 100 million in Asia and Oceania. 120 million Anglicans. But the British Empire has died more recently (in the 20th century), while Spain had its expansion 100 years earlier, and died earlier, and perhaps there is still more British memory. Maybe. Catalan and Basque nationalisms are like Scottish or Irish, or Corsica.
@@anderson._.._.8801 Mainly for the Spanish, who have spent too much time on defeatist propaganda about Spain, made by the European countries that we occupied in the 16th-18th centuries.
I concede that Spain’s interests are endeavours to marvel at, but Portugal’s shouldn’t be snuffed either. The individual who circumnavigated the world was trained by Portuguese navigators. Furthermore, while Spain was at its peak in Europe, Portugal essentially dominated the richest exchange route in the world, controlling in essence the entirety of Asian commerce in the Indian and Asian Pacific oceans thanks to defeating the Ottomans repeatedly and confining their fleets to the red sea and persian gulf while seizing the entries to either body of water. Additionally, Portugal had unusually strong correspondence with the Ming dynasty, in spite of being a colonizing power, using this to leverage trade with several oriental nations for extremely lucrative merits. Furthermore there is now clear evidence that indicates the first individuals to discover Oceania were; not Dutch or Spanish, but Portuguese. Recent finds of wrecks off the coast of Australia with several indications to temporary presences on the continent have made it conclusively evident that Portugal discovered the continent possibly centuries ahead of the Dutch. Portugal has likewise left a massive legacy that, despite being a far smaller nation proportionally maintaining a consistent ratio of 5x lesser than any statistic of Spain, had spread catholicism directly or indirectly to some of the furthest regions of the world and has roughly half as many native speakers as Spanish irrespective of its vast proportional disparity. Lastly, Portugal was the first and last global colonial empire, ending only days before the 21st century. Though it should be better recognised the extent of how Spain has left a massive mark on the world, Portugal’s far more obscure and defiant legacy should not be ignored either. Additionally, if we want to get into technicalities, China itself was a nation that has left a huge mark on maritime and global history, pioneering crucial methods of navigation and massive feats of discovery that are seldom discussed today, though I find it most tragic that China never grew on its innovations in spite of its great potential shown in figures like the Yunnanese Zheng He, equal, if not better to Portugal’s iconic Afonso de Albuquerque.
@@moonreaps3753 Portugal was actually Spanish until 1713. All the Portuguese conquests in the world (Asia, Africa, America) are essentially Portuguese, but also Spanish. When in 1518, Charles I became the first king of modern Spain, the Portuguese king protested: "This is a crime and a usurpation of the common name of all Spaniards. We Portuguese are also Spanish." He does not mean that Portugal is dependent on Madrid, but that Portugal is one of the 5 Hispanic kingdoms (in order of seniority): Navarre (9th century), Leon (10th century), Aragon and Castile (11th century) and Portugal (12th century). They were all kingdoms descended from Roman Hispania, Visigothic Hispania, Christian Hispania against the Arabs. Portugal maintained this claim until the end of the War of Succession in 1713. Portugal lost this war, with the Austrian allies, and sought to separate itself from any identification with the new kingdom of Spain, the Bourbon monarchy, which was very centralist (whereas before Aragon had its own parliament). The name Iberian Peninsula then became more popular. It was very easy for Magellan to become another sailor in the Spanish fleet. On global expansion: if we base ourselves on the kingdoms that are now part of modern Spain, and that are now autonomous communities (Castile-Leon and Aragon), as the United Kingdom has its original history in Scotland and England (with Drake, Elizabeth, Shakespeare... as a fundamental part of British history) we can say that Aragon (Spanish) expanded earlier, conquering Sicily in 1282, Athens 1311 (70 years there), Corsica and Sardinia around 1326, Djerba, Tunisia, Africa 1380 (first Iberian base in Africa, before Portugal in Ceuta 1415) and Naples 1442. Castile defeated the English fleet in 1372, in La Rochelle, sinking 48 ships. 5 Castilian invasions of southern England between 1374-1411, the Canary Islands, Africa 1402. The Spanish (and the Portuguese) knew how to sail very well. The Spanish of these two kingdoms (the antecedents of modern Spain, like Prussia of modern Germany) expand before Portugal and are on two continents before. During the 15th century Portugal reaches Ceuta, Madeira, Azores and a great exploration of the western African coast. Spain (at least united by the marriage of Isabel of Castile and Ferdinand of Aragon in 1469) reaches America in 1492 (3 continents). At that time a Castilian general dominates Aragonese Italy, defeating France in 1494, and the Aragonese-Catalans travel with Christopher Columbus to America. We function as one country. Portugal reaches India in 1498 (3 continents), but Brazil in 1500 (4 continents). I have already said that all the Portuguese (although they were Portuguese patriots, they also belonged to the historical Spanish or Hispanic nation). But well, Portugal reaches 4 continents first. As you say, the Portuguese made an extraordinary empire, dominating the most important trade route in the world, with strategic points throughout Asia and Africa. But the world has 5 or 6 continents. The Pacific Ocean should not be confused with Oceania (the fifth continent). Japan is in the Pacific Ocean, but it is Asia, not Oceania. Portugal reached the Pacific Ocean in 1512, and Balboa saw the Pacific Ocean from America in 1513. The Spanish fleet crossed the entire Pacific Ocean in 1520 (half the world) discovering Oceania and the Philippines, and bringing products from the 5 continents, for the first time in history (first trip around the world, 1522, Elcano). Regarding the discovery of Australia... it is possible that Portugal arrived first. But this is the world of hypotheses. Spain has a map of Hawaii and a helmet in New Zealand (16th century). But it is not easy for the international community to recognize that the Spanish arrived there first. Yes, we do know that we discovered the Antarctic area in 1603 (possibly earlier, with ships carried by the current from Chile). For me it was a parallel exploration: Portugal arrived earlier in that area of Asia, and Spain reached almost all the archipelagos of the Pacific Ocean, North Africa, the great plains of the USA, Alaska and almost all of Western Europe, discovering Persepolis in Asia and the sources of the White Nile in Ethiopia, or Pompeii and Herculaneum in Italy. Spain changed the Chinese and Japanese currency, with our silver, and is also the mother of the USA currency. We had a base in mainland China and another in Taiwan. We also reached Japan, and we had bases in Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia, Borneo, Brunei and Papua New Guinea. Before 1580. In reality, the Spanish and Portuguese expansions complemented each other in 1580, in the first global empire. Philip II (son of a Spanish and Portuguese woman) thus had dominions in Europe, the Mediterranean, the Atlantic, the Pacific and Indian Oceans, North America, the Caribbean, South America and both African coasts. After 1640, Portugal became independent again. Spain remained on the 5 continents until 1898. My second surname, my mother's, is Portuguese: Tavares.
some mistakes to adress: Santo Domingo (now the Dominican Republic) remained a part of spain after the independence of the colonies, as well as several archipelagos in oceania. In the 1790 map you forgot to add some of the spanish enclaves in Africa. the three liberal years were not a civil war but a turbulent period of liberal rule. only in late 1822 did the absolutists (better nown as royalists or "partidas realistas") start organised resistance in northern catalonia. the intervention in 1823 was done against the more radical liberals (the Veinteañistas) who were still monarquists. the republicans were a very minor faction back then. Catalonian and vasque independentisms weren't a cause of the fall of the empire, but rather a consecuence. vasque regionalism was born after the third carlist war (1876) by vasque conservatives that were against the industrialization of their land and the destruction of their laws and culture by the government as a way to stop future carlist risings. the Catalonian movement rised from the merchants and industrialist that had lost the american market, as a way of gaining atention from the government and recognition for the catalan language and culture. the first carlist war map has some mistakes. the area controled by carlists in the north of catalonia should be bigger, even taking some land in aragon, while the Vasque and Navarre areas should be smaller, and cities like Bilbao and San Sebastian should be shown as part of the Isabelin cause.
Algunos errores. Los territorios americanos de España, no eran colonias, eran virreinatos y capinanias generales. Diferente a la política anglosajona de ir y matar todo lo que no fuera pálido y desabrido.
@@whitezombie10 they didnt kill native ppole, stop comparing two absolute diffferent worlds, england genocide over years on america was and stills the biggest one of all times.
@@whitezombie10 The viceroyalties were different of the colonies, while vicelroyalties were more like a roman province, colonies were exploted to get all possible resources, and spain didn't made that
@@hZelfy56 All the silver that crashed their economy once begs to differ. Plus, it also happened by trade monopoly policies with the peninsula, crippling the growth of the Viceroyalties.
Spain had no colonies man, that was their territories too just that directed from the Capital as almost all empires, just something i wanted to mention but good video anyway
Si no recuerdo mal, los virreinatos y capitanías generales en América fueron reconocidos formalmente como "territorio español" en la última parte de las campañas de independencia. osea, en términos generales si eran un estado colonial pero con más libertades.
@@mauris4583 Nosotros NUNCA FUIMOS COLONIAS, eso es estúpido, la organización jurídica del imperio español estaba formada por Reinos, Provincias, Capitanías generales y Virreinatos, nosotros éramos virreinatos, No éramos colonias, colonias las que tenían los ingleses o los franceses, donde solo se extraía un producto y se llevaba a la metrópolis. En la América española las cosas no fueron así, aquí habían ciudades, sistemas de salud, recreo y de ley públicos, había sistema educativo y reconocimiento de todos los ciudadanos de los virreinatos como súbditos del Rey, por ende equivalentes a los peninsulares. Y en tema de riqueza los virreinatos eran varias veces más ricos tanto en pib per cápita como en pib bruto que la península, La Nueva España, era la potencia económica más grande del mundo occidental y ciudad de México era una señora ciudad mientras Madrid era un pueblucho en comparación, y en la América inglesa nisiquiera había ciudades, la Nueva España era tan rica que el propio Humboldt la alabo y llamo a la ciudad de México "la ciudad de los palacios", ya quitemos ese estigma estúpido victimista y falso de que fuimos colonias, NO NUNCA FUIMOS COLONIAS
"We Filipinos were subjects when ruled by Spain 🇪🇸. But under the USA 🇺🇸, we are treated as commodities. " --- Emilio Aguinaldo. Even when the USA 🇺🇸 occupied The Philippines, that nation continued with the metric system.
Since Spain still had a massive empire, wouldn't they have gained more colonies in africa? If yes wouldn't it alter WW1 more, especially with the treaty at the end of the war??
In addition to if Spain were in the triple entente, since the king of Spain also has the title of king of Jerusalem, if they defeated the Ottomans in the subsequent peace treaty, Spain would surely claim the territories of current Israel and Palestine under a protectorate. of Jerusalem or a captaincy general of Jerusalem. Not to mention that Spain made attempts to conquer Cambodia and Brunei so possibly these were replicated and came to fruition. Furthermore, Spain would surely remain the main world power, but one of the clearest things is that Morocco would surely be a completely Spanish protectorate, not like in our reality, which was divided between Spain and France, it would have a greater presence in the Pacific, surely forming a Viceroyalty of Indonesia (it should be noted that this would not be composed of all of Indonesia but the Philippines, the island of Brunei and surrounding islands in addition to its Pacific islands) this viceroyalty can also have the name of Viceroyalty of the Philippines, Brunei or the East Indies, Surely it would be given more possessions in the distribution of Africa, possibly predominating the aforementioned Morocco, a larger region for Spanish Guinea in the Gulf of Guinea, surely Tunisia due to Spanish attempts in the past during the beginnings of its empire, possibly some concessions. In East Africa, the most likely small size or the island of Madagascar to have an interconnection between its American, European, African and Asian territories. The relationship between Spain and France would not be entirely positive, mainly because France has a territory known as Perpignan or Roussillon that previously belonged to Spain and also having Napoleon third in power, assuming what happens as in our reality, that relationship would not be positive at all. less in the short-medium term and it would be more pro-Prussian in the Franco-Prussian war due to the fact that Spain has territorial claims against France, in addition to the fact that France would not be important as in our reality it is surely between the third and fourth world powers. Spain's greatest enemy at this point would be the British Empire since in our reality it encouraged the independence rebellions and that tells us that they would try it in this other one but failing in the fact in addition to the fact that then it would be more difficult for the British to consolidate their power starting with a great disadvantage in resources with the Spanish Empire, it is most likely that industrialization could occur in the British Empire but Spain would take little time to catch up so possibly the British Empire would be much less important or powerful in this reality. Parallel, remaining as the second world power, remaining as the rival of Spain as a step in our reality between the French and the British until the arrival of the Germans, now I could not tell you if this, in the case of this reality, would calm the Spanish-British rivalry or inflame it more by putting the Spaniards on the German side I think that it is 50% yes, 50% no, that would be very variable political frameworks due to the already historical and existing triple rivalry between the Spanish, British and French empires, something that I am clear about is that the British would have control of India and they would be given quite a few concessions in Africa but surely not as many as in our reality. Another thing that would change are the opium wars in which Spain would surely be more involved than it was in our reality because it would be beneficial to have the Chinese market open, with the Philippines as the main trading point in the East. Another change would be the opening of Japan. abroad, since the Americans did not have much control of the Pacific, this imposition of the USA towards Japan to open itself to the world would surely not have been given, although it is most likely that another nation would have done so, possibly the British Empire, the French Empire or Spain itself, but There is also the possibility that this did not happen and Japan did not have the rapid industrialization it had and the Japanese empire was not formed and finally it is the annexation of Hawaii to the USA. It is most likely that they would remain independent like the Hawaiian Kingdom or they would be annexed. as protectorate by the British Empire or the Spanish Empire. Now around the First World War and consequently the Second and the Russian Revolution, things would not be chlorine as they could be due to what has already been mentioned in the existence and possibilities of Spain's relations with both Germany, the British Empire, France, Austria. Hungary, Italy... From my point of view these would be the most likely scenarios if the Spanish Empire did not collapse.
@@CouscousKhan The thing is that I am Spanish and since I was little I have liked history but especially studying Hispanic history, their geopolitical relationships in the past and how their empire behaved. The fall of the Spanish empire, although we do not usually think about it, is a very important event because with its fall it gave way to the splendor of other nations such as France, the United Kingdom and the United States, in addition to the fact that the Western world would have another point of view for that matter. say it Hispanic or Latin unlike our reality which is more Anglo-Saxon because the previous world power was the British Empire and the current one is the United States. And I'm sorry I said something is written wrong, it's just that I don't know much English and the translator helped me a little XD.
@@EadwineHerendil que alegría encontrar otro español. Pero bajo mi punto de vista para esa época el tratado de Tordesillas no seria muy tomado en cuenta como paso con los intentos españoles de conquistar Camboya o la expansión de los territorios brasileños durante periodo portugués que se saltaban el tratado y más teniendo encuentra como fue el reparto de África en Berlín
Alright, so there are some mistakes that I have to fix (sorry but I literally study Spanish history). So It doesn't really matter if you call the Viceroyalties colonies or not, the Spanish Empire wasn't really a "traditional state" as it was called "the Spanish Monarchy" the Viceroyalties were part of the Crown so they already had a large degree of autonomy. The wars of independence were just a ploy of the creole elites to take power (since the Bourbons started to tax heavily on the elites), most of the people living there and the natives supported the Crown but since the peninsula was demolished by the French and British invasions it didn't have the economic power to rearm the military (plus most of the wealth was in America), also during the wars of independence the British sent troops to help the rebels, but they also looted the royal haciendas (where all the gold and silver was storaged) and they also destroyed the proto-industry that Spain already had. The rest is pretty much legit (if we count it's alternate history), the Constitution of 1812 would have been enough to keep the Viceroyalties loyalty so yeah, good job.
Also, Spain would have probably recovered economically way faster if the Viceroyalties didn't get their independence and there wasn't political instability. Spain (by this I mean the entire empire) would have probably become the second global power after Britain (since it had a massive quantity of resources).
The only thing in the entire scenario which I’m still confused about is why didn’t Romania join WWI in this timeline? They joined irl when it was like the worst time, so when Austria and Germany are getting toasted they don’t?
my toughts: first of all, giving the viceroyalties full autonomy would mean the end of the *spanish* empire, this is because they were pretty well developed by the level of a colony, giving the americas the status of spain would mean that, overtime, the peninsula would become secondary, in less extreme but still same fashion that brazil and portugal. they might be able to keep the viceroyalties if spain industrializes and the colonies no but that would be just buying time, and being secondary is something that the spanish society would never accept, so the americas might break up at some point. the usa wouldnt just accept not getting california and texas without heavy treaties with spain, such as free door in all caribean and investment in new spain. and last, spain would not join the great war unless they are promise huge gains, and the only possible thing the entente could offer would be arab colonies, but in the scenario the ottomans are pro-entente so...
I have two questions Why didn't Spain participate in the initial scramble of africa? Why did Germany have to give up Memelland after the Lithuanian uprising in Russia despite not really being a part of this conflict? I give it a 7/10 in realism, it was an enjoyable video.
They were already in decline by the 1800's. They were an irrelevant power. They spent too much time, money and manpower fighting dumb religious wars. They got a lot of land in Europe due to inheritance. But their Religious Intolerance, basically made them lose it all. Had they not been intolerant religious zealots and tried to enforce trade policies that only benefited the crow, the Dutch would have never revolted. They didn't revolt against Burgundy for almost 250 years. But the moment the Spanish inherited Burgundy it all went to hell, because they tried to force religion and trade policy on the Dutch. That War triggered the whole Religious Wars that would go on for almost 100 years.
As a Spanish myself, and with quite a bit of knowledge about our history, this video sadly comes from a false premise, Fernando VII swearing the constitution wouldnt have solved anything, all american territories outside of Cuba, Puerto Rico and Peru (a true royalist bastion that didnt rebel, but was conquered by Bolívar and San Martín) developed independence ambitions that were irreconciable, coupled with high levels of republicanism stemming from the US and the French revolution, the actual measures to mantain the empire in the Americas would had to ve taken before, there are two possibilities, the Aranda Memorial, wich stated that basically out of the continental american territories we should have created three Kingdoms of the same dinasty that were basically independent but cooperating with us economically and geopolitically; or another approach that was to cut power from the Vicerois (the delegates sent by the King to be supreme authority, this system also was used in like Italy, Aragon and so on at various times) and let the nobles, cleregy and third estate of the american territories have their own cortes (this was somewhat problematic due to the Bourbonic centralism, but could have actually have been done under Carlos IV that was a bit more leanient due to him not being too smart) also, the more rebellious territories were New Granada and Río de la Plata, why ? Because their Vicerroyalities were newer (and New Granada was actually abolished during some decades in the mid 1700s) and less well structured, so that gave rise to the unchecked influence of local authorities, also they had less priviliges inside of the complicated political and economic system, also affected by the trade reforms of Carlos III that were detrimental to american trade. Also the Philippines were actually given autonomy, but some months after the peace with the rebels was signed, the war against the US started and they returned to the rebellion, and actually they fought the americans for like 4 years more when they conquered the islands.
Lo de las filipinas no fue así los americanos llegaron pero los filipinos no querían a EEUU querían independencia entonces los estadonidense hicieron una limpieza étnica a todo el que hablará español
no. the independence wars were because of local elites wanting more power against peninsular spain, and they were backed by the british who wanted those lands for themselves, in fact argentina was part of the unofficial british empire.
On the realism meter, I rate it a 7-8/10. While, as expressed in the video, we assumed some things that are not guaranteed like an earlier end to institutionalized racism in America ending under an extended Lincoln, the overall outcome is pretty reasonable all things considered. Nice job! We need a HOI4 mod like Pax Britannica on this now.
Spain enters WW1 and gets nothing? The Ottomans enter, barely do anything and get Cyprus? Suuure. You'd think Spain would at least be awarded Gibraltar for helping in WW1. This was the only part that seemed ignored on your part RH.
Why would Britain give up one of its most important military/naval bases in all of its history. The fact that they still hold on to it to this day should tell you something of its importance.
@@joaquinmorales2955 we have already established by this very video that they won't be hostile as they are allies. Now if they want to become hostile after the war, that is different but regardless, Britain would not give up Gibraltar. They would rather antagonize the Spanish and fight a war in the future then give it up even if WW2 is some kind of alliance of Britain vs Spain and their allies they would rather fight a war. That is how important Gibraltar is they would not give it up without a fight.
@@rewriting-historySpain did have a Hohenzollern King before the Franco-Prussian War however France forced the Hohenzallen king to back down and be replaced
This was one of your best scenarios so far! I love the realism you putted to this, because Spain is still powerful, but they don't become the undisputed hegemon of the world that many imagine if the spanish empire survived. This is a 10 in realism.
You’re insane lmao. There just an isn’t a realistic way for Spain to hold on to those colonies for as long as they did with such little problem. Spain certainly wouldn’t develop that well either as these colonies are what led to their stagnation as it gave them unlimited resources and therefore made industrialization unviable as it was easier to just make money on plantations. This scenario turns Spain into a super powerful state with zero issues when in reality it’d remain a backwards and overextended empire.
@@The-Army-SnakeThe plantations were only the economic engine of the Caribbean, and even in the Caribbean they were not the entire production, you do not have even the slightest knowledge of the Spanish empire, And "unlimited" resources, that's absurd
@@AnahuacMex Bro American silver Litterally inflated the Spanish economy to the point of collapse. The wealth extraction that the colonies were entirely set up around ruined Spains ability to develop properly. There’s a reason why the Spanish colonies failed when they broke free, because they quite literally were never set up for long term success and were just made for as much short term profit as humanly imaginable.
The ending we could have had if King Ferdinand VI wasn't such a stubborn man and have not resisted the constitutional monarchy. From the Philippines. 🇵🇭 Viva España! 🇪🇸
Hey Rewriting remember me from the last live stream? I was the one asking for a Carlist revolution success scenario and you did say you were gonna mention it in the stream and oh you surely did in this vid
@@rewriting-history Oh ya I got a good idea its What if China was a Central Power and IK WW1 probally wouldnt still be won by the Central Powers but im interested to see a Larger Chinese front as Japan would have an actual front and im interested how this will affect Russia, France, The Brits, and Thailand as all these were states in Asia
The viceroyalty of New Spain didn't want a constitutional monarchy. The "independence" movement started as an uprising against the Napoleonic represantatives, thats what father Miguel Hidalgo meant by "death to bad government". Bad government as in the revolutionary and democratic ideals of the French Revolution and Napoleonic Code. In fact the uprising had mostly died down by 1814 when the Spanish Constitution was repealed, but it picked back up in 1820 when it was reinstated and this time it was backed by the Mexican-Spanish elites and former generals in the Royalist army like Agustin de Iturbide and Lopez de Santa Ana. They were willing to make Ferdinand of Spain the Emperor of Mexico, similar to how Franz Josef would later be Emperor of Austria and King of Hungary, but the major sticking point was that Mexico should remain an absolute Monarchy. However since Ferdinand took to long to reply, Agustin was temporarily appointed Emperor, and by the time the Spanish constitution was repealed in 1823 and Ferdinand was finally willing to take action the Mexican monarchy collapsed and became a republic.
I'm really torn on this one. On the one hand, I *need* my Spanish Empire. On the other hand, I'm a good American boy, so I like Tejas being in the US. Spain can keep California, of course.
Como dijo Wellington en 1806 "la unica forma de hacernos con el territorio español de america es arrancandolos de la corona española en forma de Repúblicas"
Will be really interesting to see it! Also I have scenario idea from the same sphere: 'What if Japan was colonised?' The story had shown that Japan could've been colonised by Portugal, but it failed miserably. Also y theoretically come up with something else.
Wow, I began seeing yoru videos a month ago and their are excellent, a very good explanation, a voice that is not robotic/ai generated and a lot of realism! 9/10 of realism, it was great and it makes a lot of sense that if these changes would have been made, spain wouldn't collapse or atleast would remain it's empire. As a latin american, I can say that the first rebellions were only to gain more autonomy within Spain (during 1810's) but after Spain denied that, and they poorly managed the war, the independentist ideas surged.
This might just be The best timeline I’ve seen yet. Thanks to Spains commonwealth, Britain forms the Imperial Federation. and France, Russia Italy and maybe even Portugal keeps Brazil by Turning into a Commonwealth or Federation too. Only one mistake the British weren’t selling them a Cruiser but rather a Dreadnaught Battleship that was supposed to enter the Ottoman fleet but with the outbreak of war became HMS Agincourt
Excellent video, But I think that Spain would have gotten more land in Africa in the Berlin Conference, since it would be a more powerful nation and would still maintain its fleet that it lost against the USA ❤🇪🇸
One mistake the Mexicans where heavily conservative, literally Hidalgo, and Iterbude both major founders of Mexico, hated the idea of a constitutional monarchy, its the entire reason why Iterbude switched sides and supported Mexican independence, the constitution also barely impacted Mexico, the Viceroyalty was to busy either clapping the revolutionaries or getting clapped and eating itself apart.Just trying to point that out, but other than that great video.
I give this 7 out of 10 in realism. Spain couldn't have kept South America since Gran Colombia and Argentina wanted independence, and, like in our timeline, they would have forced Perú to become independent. They might keep México, the Philippines, Puerto Rico, and Cuba, while gaining Morocco and maybe some more land in Central Africa, but that's just about it. Trust me, I live in Colombia and we never really wanted to continue to be part of Spain.
all of the stuff you said doesnt sound too unrealistic but i think th history goes far that we cant really predict it so im going to rate it a decent 7/10
The Spanish Empire not collapsing at all is like a 3/10 or 2 but ignoring the crazy premise, your approach was like a 7/10 with the details of how it might survive and the effects. Good job!
I give a 8 to realism because I think Romania would join ww1 to reclaim Transilvania or Hungary would have revelled before the end of the war to Austrians, but still a fantastic video 🤝
8/10, In WW1 Spain would probably get Gibraltar as a reward from the UK, and i think that Croatia would get indipendance and that Vojvodina would have been given to Serbia.
I think that if the carlists rose to power the franco-prussian war, triggered by the possiblility of Leopold of Hohenzollern being elected as a spanish monarch, would have been at least delayed. Apart from that, great video! I really enjoy your content, and as a spaniard, I was really happy to see a video regarding my country. 9/10 realism is my guess
8 in realism, because in my opinion Spain would, due to greater influence, gain greater posessions in Scramble of Africa. Also, Spain per se didn't had reasons to join Entente besides their ruler with limited competences due to his liberalisation (if joining Central Powers they could get some French border territories and colonies (or in extreme case France under personal union (Bourbon ruler))), Spain would stay neutral (or situation similiar to Greece)
I really like this video, thought very optimistic to say the least. I don't think they would've been able to keep as much of their empire, like Argentina. Also love your take on Carlos, definetly can see how he could become like a Napoleon III type figure but for Spain A+ for originality but C- for realism, ain't no way they're cool with the US You should do a part two with a more realistic take I'd love to see that
If they had neutralized Argentina around 1810 there would be no territorial losses, The Mexican War of Independence was neutralized for the first 3 most violent years, after that they would just have to wait
I love the part where Peru asks for independence when Peru in real life was the only viceroyalty that wanted to remain in the Spanish empire for almost the entirety of 1810-1825
During the 15th, 16th, and early 17th centuries, Spain was the hegemonic world power. Neither France nor England dared to cough at him. Until the battle of Rocroi. And if Portugal had not become independent, Brazil would now speak Spanish, not Portuguese.
Wouldn't Spain gain more african colonies because of its power at the time? I think they would keep or even expand theyre coast in Cameron all of morocco and maybe some additional scattered colonies like germany
I'd say it's a 7 or an 8 on realism, because some things were just tricky and random but one other thing, which is the landtaking from Germany after the lost war, is quite different to my first expectation
Suggestion: What If Poland Lithuania Never Got partitioned? Basically in this world Austria And maybe Prussia protect Poland with especially Austria getting a Habsburg Candidate to become leader and in return of the alliance Austria Would Give Up The Polish majority of Galicia (Not Ukrainian Though) and with this I would see that Russia has minor expansion into the Baltics and Ukraine (So Like Just A little Bit Weaker Poland Than Before The Partitions) With this I would say Either during the Austro Prussian Wars Russia invades Poland While Austria's distracted leaving Poland To Fall In Russian Hands (most likely most territories become a puppet government) Or a later Hungarian Uprising in Austria Russia invades and a compromise comes with the borders from the 3rd partition.
Great Video!! The only thing that i think is missing is the scramble of africa as i think this spain would get more and ww1 peace treaty as i think spain would want some compensation as for example gibraltar, but still very good
This is actually wrong. The criollos (spanish born in the Americas from peninsular parents), who held the vast majority of power in the different Viceroyalties, supported Ferdinand VII's absolute monarchy. The Viceroyalties and General Captancies commenced the independence movement due to the influence of masonry from the time of French-conquered Spain. Bolivar and all his entourage, along with the rebels in the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata (current Argentina), which was the first of the overseas territories to rebel, were all bourgeois masons. The masonry was the cause for the downfall of the Spanish Empire.
One thing i didn't get was why spain would willingly give land to the US and the US, Florida, since it's so geographically stategic, maybe louisiana. The adam onis treaty was a one and done deal bc it formerly set the borders and prevented US expansion its why they didn't renew a version of this with Mexico irl. Great video tho keep up the good work
15:38 actually the German empire did have elections and was a constitutional monarchy. The people could elect the Reichstag and in the early 1900s the social democrats were winning.
Can you do if the British empire and French empire didn’t collapse that would be a great scenario because both collapsed due to decolonisation great video
personally dont find this scenario realistic, as in my opinion even with Spain as an enemy, the german army mustnt be underestimated. Yes, their gains would be a little less, but they would still definetely end 1914 on french/belgian soil and Tannenberg would also still be won, as russia was just that technologically inferior. The most unrealistic part to me however is the fact, that spain would be able to hold its empire together, with the divergence beeing only after the napoleonic wars. Thats because, due to the way, that Spain had treated its domains before the people would have used any chance to break away, as seen during the napoleaonic wars, because many south american nations already broke away in the 1810 and not the 1820 as you said. Thats why I personally would give it a 3 outta 10 accuracy wise, however it still was a well made video and I still did enjoy watching it, keep up the good work
False, in real life Spain on the verge of collapse destroyed any dream of independence of New Spain, Mexico became independent due to the betrayal of Realistas* army, Furthermore, many movements in 1810 were not independence, that was until around 1812-1814, In the reconquest of America, only Argentina resisted in 1810s, Spain could win, The majority of the population supported Spain in the early years, an early and quick victory before 1816 would have easily maintained the empire.
I'd give it a 7-to-8; the assumption that Lincoln would go for a third term seems a stretch, although continued Republican control for that term seems likely. The one big flaw is not taking into account the rise of industrial wealth redistribution. Out of curiosity, what would be the position of your "Nuevo Imperio Español" in terms of business interests coming to the fore? If these companies are allowed the same ability to wield influence as they were in the US and Britain, there might be decisions made where Spanish business entities pushed the Empire into taking actions that would knock the scenario off target. If that's addressed at some point (i.e., more worker considerations taken into account more quickly than they had been in America and the UK), you'd still be on track with this. Otherwise, this was pretty good.
Girls: He's probably already forgotten me.
Boys 150 years later:
Me being born in one of the last colonies Spain held on to (Puerto Rico): 😢
@@n00b5lay3r Puerto Rico no es colonia, es una provincia arrebatada en una falsa guerra. Viva Puerto Rico español 🇵🇷🇪🇦
@@genovesator8454 Si yo lo se pero pa escribirlo más fácil dije colonia. Yo se que eramos una provincia de españa. 🇵🇷🇪🇸
Viva España from the Philippines 🇵🇭🇵🇭❤️🇪🇸🇪🇸
Viva Filipinas, desde España.
Viva! from honduras ❤
Viva Filipinas from a Mexican in Spain 🇪🇸🇲🇽❤🇵🇭
Viva la hispanidad 🤍♥️
los hispanos de Asia, ¡siempre hermanos! Viva Filipinas
In almost every single map of the spanish empire they either forget the spanish netherlands or the spanish holdings in italy. It infuriates me.
I didn't forget them, I simply showed a map from 1790, a bit before the Napoleonic wars
@@rewriting-history In the video when you showed the map you said that this was all the land the spanish empire used to controlled which is wrong since it didn't include the spanish netherlands, milan and sardinia.
In 1790 spain didn’t own Italy
@@AdrianTresentsCobos I'm not saying it did. He said that the territory shown on the map was all the land spain used to own, which is false. I was not referring to that specific year. But all the territory spain owned in it's history.
@@generellconfusion2592he never said that’s all the land they ever owned tho u just wanna be mad abt something
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@@rewriting-historyrealism:8/10 very good and realistic subscribe😊
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You too man
This is probably my Favourite video you've made. This is incredible! Thank you, also I'll probably give it a 9 in Realism. Makes Quite a lot of sense.
Glad you liked it! Really amazed that so many people like it so far!
There is one really important thing about the carlists, they supported de centralization a lot which would help a lot keeping the empire toguether. Also is likely that eventually the capital is moved to mexico as spain itself was probably the weakest area of the empire and since spain intermixed with locals eventually there would likely be given equal votes american spanish and peninsular spanish and "tye colony" would be closer to spain itself
Moving the capital is a really interesting suggestion. If I knew that, I could have added it in the video for sure!
@@rewriting-history the spanish constitution that ferdinand refused gave equal rights to the spanish on both sides of the athlantic and were seen as equals, not the philipines, those were much more of a colony, and probably after 1 or 2 generations it would be more of an american state more worried about brazil usa or canada (uk) than european affairs as mainland spain was a backwater compared to the american parts. In the spanish empire fir every 10 gold coins 1 was used in europe and 9 in the americas. Thats the reason why spain was irrelevant after loosing the empire whike france or uk quickly recovered
@@jonC1208Today the quality of Life is better in Spain than France or U.K and today the U.K its a simple troupe of U.S and France IS obsvoously no a first superpower .
@@Benito-lr8mz currentmy the uk or france has a higuer gdp per capita. But my point is that france after loosing its empire quickly got another as did the uk but spain never recovered
carlists were the most keen yo decentralization
If the Spanish empire is not as popular as the Mongol or British, it will be a joke. We discovered 3 continents: America (most important event in history), Oceania and Antarctica, as well as the first circumnavigation of the world, and the first globalization, bringing the world into the modern era. In addition, we had a hegemony in Europe for 150 years. Napoleon 15 years. Hitler 3 years. British Empire in Europe, hegemonic: 0 years. Spain had lands in Europe for 457 years. All the countries of Western Europe were marked by the presence of the Spanish empire, which was 200 years in the Spanish Netherlands, 160 years in parts of France and Germany, Spanish emperor in Germany, Spanish king in England, annexation of the Portuguese empire, 457 years in Italy, participating in the Renaissance. We also made the golden age of culture. Basically Spain saved the Catholic religion in France, southern Germany and the Palatinate, Belgium, Luxembourg, Malta and Italy. It is the only empire that had a hegemony in Europe and a simultaneous global hegemony, with lands in 100 countries on 5 continents and all oceans, with an estimated surface area between 1580-1640 of 30 million km2.
Although Spain arrived in America in 1492, and the English arrived in America in 1497, it took the United Kingdom 300 years to equal the surface area of the Spanish empire, and only achieved this around 1890, and with the island, which prevented the Spanish, Napoleon or German invasions.
The Spanish legacy has 485 million native speakers. 600 million in total. English mother tongue 380 million (40% born in parts of USA that the British never controlled. In 1900 there were only 15 million civilized people in the British Empire, in Australia and Canada. Basically the British legacy was saved by the USA and its commercial and industrial power after WW2, when the British Empire was dead and French was the majority language.
800 million Catholics thanks to Spain. 200 million in Europe, 500 million in America, 100 million in Asia and Oceania.
120 million Anglicans.
But the British Empire has died more recently (in the 20th century), while Spain had its expansion 100 years earlier, and died earlier, and perhaps there is still more British memory. Maybe.
Catalan and Basque nationalisms are like Scottish or Irish, or Corsica.
Okay?
But why write all this?
@@anderson._.._.8801 Mainly for the Spanish, who have spent too much time on defeatist propaganda about Spain, made by the European countries that we occupied in the 16th-18th centuries.
I concede that Spain’s interests are endeavours to marvel at, but Portugal’s shouldn’t be snuffed either.
The individual who circumnavigated the world was trained by Portuguese navigators. Furthermore, while Spain was at its peak in Europe, Portugal essentially dominated the richest exchange route in the world, controlling in essence the entirety of Asian commerce in the Indian and Asian Pacific oceans thanks to defeating the Ottomans repeatedly and confining their fleets to the red sea and persian gulf while seizing the entries to either body of water. Additionally, Portugal had unusually strong correspondence with the Ming dynasty, in spite of being a colonizing power, using this to leverage trade with several oriental nations for extremely lucrative merits.
Furthermore there is now clear evidence that indicates the first individuals to discover Oceania were; not Dutch or Spanish, but Portuguese. Recent finds of wrecks off the coast of Australia with several indications to temporary presences on the continent have made it conclusively evident that Portugal discovered the continent possibly centuries ahead of the Dutch.
Portugal has likewise left a massive legacy that, despite being a far smaller nation proportionally maintaining a consistent ratio of 5x lesser than any statistic of Spain, had spread catholicism directly or indirectly to some of the furthest regions of the world and has roughly half as many native speakers as Spanish irrespective of its vast proportional disparity. Lastly, Portugal was the first and last global colonial empire, ending only days before the 21st century. Though it should be better recognised the extent of how Spain has left a massive mark on the world, Portugal’s far more obscure and defiant legacy should not be ignored either.
Additionally, if we want to get into technicalities, China itself was a nation that has left a huge mark on maritime and global history, pioneering crucial methods of navigation and massive feats of discovery that are seldom discussed today, though I find it most tragic that China never grew on its innovations in spite of its great potential shown in figures like the Yunnanese Zheng He, equal, if not better to Portugal’s iconic Afonso de Albuquerque.
@@moonreaps3753 Portugal was actually Spanish until 1713. All the Portuguese conquests in the world (Asia, Africa, America) are essentially Portuguese, but also Spanish. When in 1518, Charles I became the first king of modern Spain, the Portuguese king protested: "This is a crime and a usurpation of the common name of all Spaniards. We Portuguese are also Spanish." He does not mean that Portugal is dependent on Madrid, but that Portugal is one of the 5 Hispanic kingdoms (in order of seniority): Navarre (9th century), Leon (10th century), Aragon and Castile (11th century) and Portugal (12th century). They were all kingdoms descended from Roman Hispania, Visigothic Hispania, Christian Hispania against the Arabs. Portugal maintained this claim until the end of the War of Succession in 1713. Portugal lost this war, with the Austrian allies, and sought to separate itself from any identification with the new kingdom of Spain, the Bourbon monarchy, which was very centralist (whereas before Aragon had its own parliament). The name Iberian Peninsula then became more popular.
It was very easy for Magellan to become another sailor in the Spanish fleet. On global expansion: if we base ourselves on the kingdoms that are now part of modern Spain, and that are now autonomous communities (Castile-Leon and Aragon), as the United Kingdom has its original history in Scotland and England (with Drake, Elizabeth, Shakespeare... as a fundamental part of British history) we can say that Aragon (Spanish) expanded earlier, conquering Sicily in 1282, Athens 1311 (70 years there), Corsica and Sardinia around 1326, Djerba, Tunisia, Africa 1380 (first Iberian base in Africa, before Portugal in Ceuta 1415) and Naples 1442. Castile defeated the English fleet in 1372, in La Rochelle, sinking 48 ships. 5 Castilian invasions of southern England between 1374-1411, the Canary Islands, Africa 1402.
The Spanish (and the Portuguese) knew how to sail very well. The Spanish of these two kingdoms (the antecedents of modern Spain, like Prussia of modern Germany) expand before Portugal and are on two continents before. During the 15th century Portugal reaches Ceuta, Madeira, Azores and a great exploration of the western African coast.
Spain (at least united by the marriage of Isabel of Castile and Ferdinand of Aragon in 1469) reaches America in 1492 (3 continents). At that time a Castilian general dominates Aragonese Italy, defeating France in 1494, and the Aragonese-Catalans travel with Christopher Columbus to America. We function as one country.
Portugal reaches India in 1498 (3 continents), but Brazil in 1500 (4 continents). I have already said that all the Portuguese (although they were Portuguese patriots, they also belonged to the historical Spanish or Hispanic nation). But well, Portugal reaches 4 continents first. As you say, the Portuguese made an extraordinary empire, dominating the most important trade route in the world, with strategic points throughout Asia and Africa.
But the world has 5 or 6 continents. The Pacific Ocean should not be confused with Oceania (the fifth continent). Japan is in the Pacific Ocean, but it is Asia, not Oceania. Portugal reached the Pacific Ocean in 1512, and Balboa saw the Pacific Ocean from America in 1513. The Spanish fleet crossed the entire Pacific Ocean in 1520 (half the world) discovering Oceania and the Philippines, and bringing products from the 5 continents, for the first time in history (first trip around the world, 1522, Elcano). Regarding the discovery of Australia... it is possible that Portugal arrived first. But this is the world of hypotheses. Spain has a map of Hawaii and a helmet in New Zealand (16th century). But it is not easy for the international community to recognize that the Spanish arrived there first. Yes, we do know that we discovered the Antarctic area in 1603 (possibly earlier, with ships carried by the current from Chile). For me it was a parallel exploration: Portugal arrived earlier in that area of Asia, and Spain reached almost all the archipelagos of the Pacific Ocean, North Africa, the great plains of the USA, Alaska and almost all of Western Europe, discovering Persepolis in Asia and the sources of the White Nile in Ethiopia, or Pompeii and Herculaneum in Italy.
Spain changed the Chinese and Japanese currency, with our silver, and is also the mother of the USA currency. We had a base in mainland China and another in Taiwan. We also reached Japan, and we had bases in Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia, Borneo, Brunei and Papua New Guinea. Before 1580. In reality, the Spanish and Portuguese expansions complemented each other in 1580, in the first global empire. Philip II (son of a Spanish and Portuguese woman) thus had dominions in Europe, the Mediterranean, the Atlantic, the Pacific and Indian Oceans, North America, the Caribbean, South America and both African coasts. After 1640, Portugal became independent again. Spain remained on the 5 continents until 1898. My second surname, my mother's, is Portuguese: Tavares.
Culpa de la propaganda imperialista anglosajona
Aranda's plan to create a Hispanic commonwealth before 1800 would be more realistic
Best video yet especially because I love Spain, Hope you get to 10k subs soon
Glad you liked it! After about a week I will hit 10,000!
some mistakes to adress:
Santo Domingo (now the Dominican Republic) remained a part of spain after the independence of the colonies, as well as several archipelagos in oceania.
In the 1790 map you forgot to add some of the spanish enclaves in Africa.
the three liberal years were not a civil war but a turbulent period of liberal rule. only in late 1822 did the absolutists (better nown as royalists or "partidas realistas") start organised resistance in northern catalonia.
the intervention in 1823 was done against the more radical liberals (the Veinteañistas) who were still monarquists. the republicans were a very minor faction back then.
Catalonian and vasque independentisms weren't a cause of the fall of the empire, but rather a consecuence. vasque regionalism was born after the third carlist war (1876) by vasque conservatives that were against the industrialization of their land and the destruction of their laws and culture by the government as a way to stop future carlist risings. the Catalonian movement rised from the merchants and industrialist that had lost the american market, as a way of gaining atention from the government and recognition for the catalan language and culture.
the first carlist war map has some mistakes. the area controled by carlists in the north of catalonia should be bigger, even taking some land in aragon, while the Vasque and Navarre areas should be smaller, and cities like Bilbao and San Sebastian should be shown as part of the Isabelin cause.
Can't wait to see which house Will be the ruling one! Really hoping for the Trastamaras. But if not the Habsburgs are also good
You will be really surprised, can't wait to see if you will like it, when it releases tomorrow
@@rewriting-history yep
Algunos errores.
Los territorios americanos de España, no eran colonias, eran virreinatos y capinanias generales.
Diferente a la política anglosajona de ir y matar todo lo que no fuera pálido y desabrido.
So yeah they were colonies with a nice name
@@whitezombie10 A colony is administrate in other way than a Virreynato
@@whitezombie10 they didnt kill native ppole, stop comparing two absolute diffferent worlds, england genocide over years on america was and stills the biggest one of all times.
@@whitezombie10 The viceroyalties were different of the colonies, while vicelroyalties were more like a roman province, colonies were exploted to get all possible resources, and spain didn't made that
@@hZelfy56 All the silver that crashed their economy once begs to differ. Plus, it also happened by trade monopoly policies with the peninsula, crippling the growth of the Viceroyalties.
Spain had no colonies man, that was their territories too just that directed from the Capital as almost all empires, just something i wanted to mention but good video anyway
Still glad that you liked it! Always looking to improve my content
Si no recuerdo mal, los virreinatos y capitanías generales en América fueron reconocidos formalmente como "territorio español" en la última parte de las campañas de independencia. osea, en términos generales si eran un estado colonial pero con más libertades.
No creo, pues la libertad que había era la misma que en la península @@mauris4583
Mas o menos si claro, por eso lo digo también@@mauris4583
@@mauris4583 Nosotros NUNCA FUIMOS COLONIAS, eso es estúpido, la organización jurídica del imperio español estaba formada por Reinos, Provincias, Capitanías generales y Virreinatos, nosotros éramos virreinatos, No éramos colonias, colonias las que tenían los ingleses o los franceses, donde solo se extraía un producto y se llevaba a la metrópolis.
En la América española las cosas no fueron así, aquí habían ciudades, sistemas de salud, recreo y de ley públicos, había sistema educativo y reconocimiento de todos los ciudadanos de los virreinatos como súbditos del Rey, por ende equivalentes a los peninsulares.
Y en tema de riqueza los virreinatos eran varias veces más ricos tanto en pib per cápita como en pib bruto que la península, La Nueva España, era la potencia económica más grande del mundo occidental y ciudad de México era una señora ciudad mientras Madrid era un pueblucho en comparación, y en la América inglesa nisiquiera había ciudades, la Nueva España era tan rica que el propio Humboldt la alabo y llamo a la ciudad de México "la ciudad de los palacios", ya quitemos ese estigma estúpido victimista y falso de que fuimos colonias, NO NUNCA FUIMOS COLONIAS
"We Filipinos were subjects when ruled by Spain 🇪🇸. But under the USA 🇺🇸, we are treated as commodities. " --- Emilio Aguinaldo.
Even when the USA 🇺🇸 occupied The Philippines, that nation continued with the metric system.
Since Spain still had a massive empire, wouldn't they have gained more colonies in africa? If yes wouldn't it alter WW1 more, especially with the treaty at the end of the war??
In addition to if Spain were in the triple entente, since the king of Spain also has the title of king of Jerusalem, if they defeated the Ottomans in the subsequent peace treaty, Spain would surely claim the territories of current Israel and Palestine under a protectorate. of Jerusalem or a captaincy general of Jerusalem. Not to mention that Spain made attempts to conquer Cambodia and Brunei so possibly these were replicated and came to fruition. Furthermore, Spain would surely remain the main world power, but one of the clearest things is that Morocco would surely be a completely Spanish protectorate, not like in our reality, which was divided between Spain and France, it would have a greater presence in the Pacific, surely forming a Viceroyalty of Indonesia (it should be noted that this would not be composed of all of Indonesia but the Philippines, the island of Brunei and surrounding islands in addition to its Pacific islands) this viceroyalty can also have the name of Viceroyalty of the Philippines, Brunei or the East Indies, Surely it would be given more possessions in the distribution of Africa, possibly predominating the aforementioned Morocco, a larger region for Spanish Guinea in the Gulf of Guinea, surely Tunisia due to Spanish attempts in the past during the beginnings of its empire, possibly some concessions. In East Africa, the most likely small size or the island of Madagascar to have an interconnection between its American, European, African and Asian territories. The relationship between Spain and France would not be entirely positive, mainly because France has a territory known as Perpignan or Roussillon that previously belonged to Spain and also having Napoleon third in power, assuming what happens as in our reality, that relationship would not be positive at all. less in the short-medium term and it would be more pro-Prussian in the Franco-Prussian war due to the fact that Spain has territorial claims against France, in addition to the fact that France would not be important as in our reality it is surely between the third and fourth world powers. Spain's greatest enemy at this point would be the British Empire since in our reality it encouraged the independence rebellions and that tells us that they would try it in this other one but failing in the fact in addition to the fact that then it would be more difficult for the British to consolidate their power starting with a great disadvantage in resources with the Spanish Empire, it is most likely that industrialization could occur in the British Empire but Spain would take little time to catch up so possibly the British Empire would be much less important or powerful in this reality. Parallel, remaining as the second world power, remaining as the rival of Spain as a step in our reality between the French and the British until the arrival of the Germans, now I could not tell you if this, in the case of this reality, would calm the Spanish-British rivalry or inflame it more by putting the Spaniards on the German side I think that it is 50% yes, 50% no, that would be very variable political frameworks due to the already historical and existing triple rivalry between the Spanish, British and French empires, something that I am clear about is that the British would have control of India and they would be given quite a few concessions in Africa but surely not as many as in our reality. Another thing that would change are the opium wars in which Spain would surely be more involved than it was in our reality because it would be beneficial to have the Chinese market open, with the Philippines as the main trading point in the East. Another change would be the opening of Japan. abroad, since the Americans did not have much control of the Pacific, this imposition of the USA towards Japan to open itself to the world would surely not have been given, although it is most likely that another nation would have done so, possibly the British Empire, the French Empire or Spain itself, but There is also the possibility that this did not happen and Japan did not have the rapid industrialization it had and the Japanese empire was not formed and finally it is the annexation of Hawaii to the USA. It is most likely that they would remain independent like the Hawaiian Kingdom or they would be annexed. as protectorate by the British Empire or the Spanish Empire. Now around the First World War and consequently the Second and the Russian Revolution, things would not be chlorine as they could be due to what has already been mentioned in the existence and possibilities of Spain's relations with both Germany, the British Empire, France, Austria. Hungary, Italy... From my point of view these would be the most likely scenarios if the Spanish Empire did not collapse.
@@aaronbelhandi4289 that’s a lot of consequences huh
Now I feel like this video deservs a sequel (or remake).
@@CouscousKhan The thing is that I am Spanish and since I was little I have liked history but especially studying Hispanic history, their geopolitical relationships in the past and how their empire behaved. The fall of the Spanish empire, although we do not usually think about it, is a very important event because with its fall it gave way to the splendor of other nations such as France, the United Kingdom and the United States, in addition to the fact that the Western world would have another point of view for that matter. say it Hispanic or Latin unlike our reality which is more Anglo-Saxon because the previous world power was the British Empire and the current one is the United States. And I'm sorry I said something is written wrong, it's just that I don't know much English and the translator helped me a little XD.
Maybe is for the tratado de tordesillas Africa was for Portugal and America, except Brazil for Spain, saludo desde España 🇪🇦🇵🇹🇬🇧
@@EadwineHerendil que alegría encontrar otro español. Pero bajo mi punto de vista para esa época el tratado de Tordesillas no seria muy tomado en cuenta como paso con los intentos españoles de conquistar Camboya o la expansión de los territorios brasileños durante periodo portugués que se saltaban el tratado y más teniendo encuentra como fue el reparto de África en Berlín
Alright, so there are some mistakes that I have to fix (sorry but I literally study Spanish history). So It doesn't really matter if you call the Viceroyalties colonies or not, the Spanish Empire wasn't really a "traditional state" as it was called "the Spanish Monarchy" the Viceroyalties were part of the Crown so they already had a large degree of autonomy. The wars of independence were just a ploy of the creole elites to take power (since the Bourbons started to tax heavily on the elites), most of the people living there and the natives supported the Crown but since the peninsula was demolished by the French and British invasions it didn't have the economic power to rearm the military (plus most of the wealth was in America), also during the wars of independence the British sent troops to help the rebels, but they also looted the royal haciendas (where all the gold and silver was storaged) and they also destroyed the proto-industry that Spain already had. The rest is pretty much legit (if we count it's alternate history), the Constitution of 1812 would have been enough to keep the Viceroyalties loyalty so yeah, good job.
Also, Spain would have probably recovered economically way faster if the Viceroyalties didn't get their independence and there wasn't political instability. Spain (by this I mean the entire empire) would have probably become the second global power after Britain (since it had a massive quantity of resources).
The only thing in the entire scenario which I’m still confused about is why didn’t Romania join WWI in this timeline? They joined irl when it was like the worst time, so when Austria and Germany are getting toasted they don’t?
I think I overlooked that, so I could have added that
Spain already took over the independent Dominican Republic in our time line so it would probably end up under Spain in this line to
Good point, this is really positive
@@rewriting-history you make good videos and I like the folic you sometimes do with showing the coins
my toughts:
first of all, giving the viceroyalties full autonomy would mean the end of the *spanish* empire, this is because they were pretty well developed by the level of a colony, giving the americas the status of spain would mean that, overtime, the peninsula would become secondary, in less extreme but still same fashion that brazil and portugal.
they might be able to keep the viceroyalties if spain industrializes and the colonies no but that would be just buying time, and being secondary is something that the spanish society would never accept, so the americas might break up at some point.
the usa wouldnt just accept not getting california and texas without heavy treaties with spain, such as free door in all caribean and investment in new spain.
and last, spain would not join the great war unless they are promise huge gains, and the only possible thing the entente could offer would be arab colonies, but in the scenario the ottomans are pro-entente so...
I have two questions
Why didn't Spain participate in the initial scramble of africa?
Why did Germany have to give up Memelland after the Lithuanian uprising in Russia despite not really being a part of this conflict?
I give it a 7/10 in realism, it was an enjoyable video.
They were already in decline by the 1800's. They were an irrelevant power.
They spent too much time, money and manpower fighting dumb religious wars.
They got a lot of land in Europe due to inheritance.
But their Religious Intolerance, basically made them lose it all.
Had they not been intolerant religious zealots and tried to enforce trade policies that only benefited the crow, the Dutch would have never revolted.
They didn't revolt against Burgundy for almost 250 years. But the moment the Spanish inherited Burgundy it all went to hell, because they tried to force religion and trade policy on the Dutch.
That War triggered the whole Religious Wars that would go on for almost 100 years.
I think this is definitely my favorite video that you have made!
Same here! Many people really liked this one!
@@rewriting-history just realized this is your hundreth video, keep up the good work man!
As a Spanish myself, and with quite a bit of knowledge about our history, this video sadly comes from a false premise, Fernando VII swearing the constitution wouldnt have solved anything, all american territories outside of Cuba, Puerto Rico and Peru (a true royalist bastion that didnt rebel, but was conquered by Bolívar and San Martín) developed independence ambitions that were irreconciable, coupled with high levels of republicanism stemming from the US and the French revolution, the actual measures to mantain the empire in the Americas would had to ve taken before, there are two possibilities, the Aranda Memorial, wich stated that basically out of the continental american territories we should have created three Kingdoms of the same dinasty that were basically independent but cooperating with us economically and geopolitically; or another approach that was to cut power from the Vicerois (the delegates sent by the King to be supreme authority, this system also was used in like Italy, Aragon and so on at various times) and let the nobles, cleregy and third estate of the american territories have their own cortes (this was somewhat problematic due to the Bourbonic centralism, but could have actually have been done under Carlos IV that was a bit more leanient due to him not being too smart) also, the more rebellious territories were New Granada and Río de la Plata, why ? Because their Vicerroyalities were newer (and New Granada was actually abolished during some decades in the mid 1700s) and less well structured, so that gave rise to the unchecked influence of local authorities, also they had less priviliges inside of the complicated political and economic system, also affected by the trade reforms of Carlos III that were detrimental to american trade.
Also the Philippines were actually given autonomy, but some months after the peace with the rebels was signed, the war against the US started and they returned to the rebellion, and actually they fought the americans for like 4 years more when they conquered the islands.
Lo de las filipinas no fue así los americanos llegaron pero los filipinos no querían a EEUU querían independencia entonces los estadonidense hicieron una limpieza étnica a todo el que hablará español
no. the independence wars were because of local elites wanting more power against peninsular spain, and they were backed by the british who wanted those lands for themselves, in fact argentina was part of the unofficial british empire.
On the realism meter, I rate it a 7-8/10. While, as expressed in the video, we assumed some things that are not guaranteed like an earlier end to institutionalized racism in America ending under an extended Lincoln, the overall outcome is pretty reasonable all things considered. Nice job! We need a HOI4 mod like Pax Britannica on this now.
Spain enters WW1 and gets nothing? The Ottomans enter, barely do anything and get Cyprus? Suuure. You'd think Spain would at least be awarded Gibraltar for helping in WW1. This was the only part that seemed ignored on your part RH.
Spain got Cameroon and Namibia. I agree that I missed that Spain could have gotten Gibraltar, so my bad
Why would Britain give up one of its most important military/naval bases in all of its history. The fact that they still hold on to it to this day should tell you something of its importance.
@@cesarcastillo7872to not have a hostile power as this spanish empire?
@@joaquinmorales2955 we have already established by this very video that they won't be hostile as they are allies. Now if they want to become hostile after the war, that is different but regardless, Britain would not give up Gibraltar. They would rather antagonize the Spanish and fight a war in the future then give it up even if WW2 is some kind of alliance of Britain vs Spain and their allies they would rather fight a war. That is how important Gibraltar is they would not give it up without a fight.
Pues lucharemos @@cesarcastillo7872
Fun fact: I make vid what if spainish Empire never fell like you, but my version Spain, joins the Central Powers
Oh damn, good job! I assume it could happen with a different monarch that is pro-German. This makes it really interesting
@@rewriting-historySpain did have a Hohenzollern King before the Franco-Prussian War however France forced the Hohenzallen king to back down and be replaced
El rey de España tiene el título de emperador de Roma, por curiosidad miren los títulos que a heredado ya en desuso
This was one of your best scenarios so far! I love the realism you putted to this, because Spain is still powerful, but they don't become the undisputed hegemon of the world that many imagine if the spanish empire survived. This is a 10 in realism.
I really appreciate it! People agree it's one of my most realistic videos, so this is a step in the right direction!
You’re insane lmao. There just an isn’t a realistic way for Spain to hold on to those colonies for as long as they did with such little problem. Spain certainly wouldn’t develop that well either as these colonies are what led to their stagnation as it gave them unlimited resources and therefore made industrialization unviable as it was easier to just make money on plantations. This scenario turns Spain into a super powerful state with zero issues when in reality it’d remain a backwards and overextended empire.
@@The-Army-SnakeI think it’s implied that they handle things differently in this timeline
@@The-Army-SnakeThe plantations were only the economic engine of the Caribbean, and even in the Caribbean they were not the entire production, you do not have even the slightest knowledge of the Spanish empire, And "unlimited" resources, that's absurd
@@AnahuacMex Bro American silver Litterally inflated the Spanish economy to the point of collapse. The wealth extraction that the colonies were entirely set up around ruined Spains ability to develop properly. There’s a reason why the Spanish colonies failed when they broke free, because they quite literally were never set up for long term success and were just made for as much short term profit as humanly imaginable.
The ending we could have had if King Ferdinand VI wasn't such a stubborn man and have not resisted the constitutional monarchy.
From the Philippines. 🇵🇭 Viva España! 🇪🇸
Slowly but surely turned into "Pax Hispanica - An Imperial Timeline."
Hey Rewriting remember me from the last live stream? I was the one asking for a Carlist revolution success scenario and you did say you were gonna mention it in the stream and oh you surely did in this vid
Damn right. I'm a man of my word, you should remember that
@@rewriting-history Oh ya I got a good idea its What if China was a Central Power and IK WW1 probally wouldnt still be won by the Central Powers but im interested to see a Larger Chinese front as Japan would have an actual front and im interested how this will affect Russia, France, The Brits, and Thailand as all these were states in Asia
@@rewriting-historyyou could ask me on carlist ideals for getting an idea on carlist ideals. I'm a carlist myself.
No fascism and no communism what a world to live in
The viceroyalty of New Spain didn't want a constitutional monarchy. The "independence" movement started as an uprising against the Napoleonic represantatives, thats what father Miguel Hidalgo meant by "death to bad government". Bad government as in the revolutionary and democratic ideals of the French Revolution and Napoleonic Code. In fact the uprising had mostly died down by 1814 when the Spanish Constitution was repealed, but it picked back up in 1820 when it was reinstated and this time it was backed by the Mexican-Spanish elites and former generals in the Royalist army like Agustin de Iturbide and Lopez de Santa Ana. They were willing to make Ferdinand of Spain the Emperor of Mexico, similar to how Franz Josef would later be Emperor of Austria and King of Hungary, but the major sticking point was that Mexico should remain an absolute Monarchy. However since Ferdinand took to long to reply, Agustin was temporarily appointed Emperor, and by the time the Spanish constitution was repealed in 1823 and Ferdinand was finally willing to take action the Mexican monarchy collapsed and became a republic.
I'm really torn on this one. On the one hand, I *need* my Spanish Empire. On the other hand, I'm a good American boy, so I like Tejas being in the US. Spain can keep California, of course.
Como dijo Wellington en 1806 "la unica forma de hacernos con el territorio español de america es arrancandolos de la corona española en forma de Repúblicas"
"All you had to do was to give your country-sized Viceroyalties parliament representation, CJ!"
Hahhaha nice reference, I love that!
@@rewriting-history :)
Will be really interesting to see it!
Also I have scenario idea from the same sphere: 'What if Japan was colonised?' The story had shown that Japan could've been colonised by Portugal, but it failed miserably. Also y theoretically come up with something else.
I want to make this scenario, so expect that soon!
@@rewriting-history I can't wait to see it! It'd be quite interesting to see how much possibilities of Japan being colonised will be there.
Great video as always! It's a bit funny because some weeks ago I started writing a scenario but it begins after the Spanish succession war
Haha nice! I'm glad you liked the video!
Wow, I began seeing yoru videos a month ago and their are excellent, a very good explanation, a voice that is not robotic/ai generated and a lot of realism! 9/10 of realism, it was great and it makes a lot of sense that if these changes would have been made, spain wouldn't collapse or atleast would remain it's empire. As a latin american, I can say that the first rebellions were only to gain more autonomy within Spain (during 1810's) but after Spain denied that, and they poorly managed the war, the independentist ideas surged.
En realidad todo empezó en la invasión napoleónica los novohispanos no aceptaron a José bonaparte como rey de España
This might just be The best timeline I’ve seen yet.
Thanks to Spains commonwealth, Britain forms the Imperial Federation. and France, Russia Italy and maybe even Portugal keeps Brazil by Turning into a Commonwealth or Federation too.
Only one mistake the British weren’t selling them a Cruiser but rather a Dreadnaught Battleship that was supposed to enter the Ottoman fleet but with the outbreak of war became HMS Agincourt
LET'S GO! Love your content 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤
Appreciate it very much, this video is truly a banger!
@@rewriting-history i'm sure
This vid it's a piece of art. Im very thankfull for putting the work by learning my country's history. Cuality content 👌🏻
Love your content so entertaining suggestion( what if everything went right for greater Romania)
Thanks for the idea! I can do all endings for Romania soon, so stay tuned on that one!
Excellent video, But I think that Spain would have gotten more land in Africa in the Berlin Conference, since it would be a more powerful nation and would still maintain its fleet that it lost against the USA ❤🇪🇸
Spain had a more powerful navy RL than the USA until 1880's or around then. So imagine if they kept their empire .
In the war of 1898 it was stronger, corruption was what caused them to lose property.
Bro I love your videos
Appreciate that! Glad you enjoy them
One mistake the Mexicans where heavily conservative, literally Hidalgo, and Iterbude both major founders of Mexico, hated the idea of a constitutional monarchy, its the entire reason why Iterbude switched sides and supported Mexican independence, the constitution also barely impacted Mexico, the Viceroyalty was to busy either clapping the revolutionaries or getting clapped and eating itself apart.Just trying to point that out, but other than that great video.
Idk what you use to make your maps but they're BEAUTIFUL
I use simply paint.net
I give this 7 out of 10 in realism. Spain couldn't have kept South America since Gran Colombia and Argentina wanted independence, and, like in our timeline, they would have forced Perú to become independent. They might keep México, the Philippines, Puerto Rico, and Cuba, while gaining Morocco and maybe some more land in Central Africa, but that's just about it. Trust me, I live in Colombia and we never really wanted to continue to be part of Spain.
The Pastusos do not say the same, Bolívar did gnocid#
Hola por ti,los traidores eran españoles,y Perú es el virreinato,Colombia una provincia del virreinato no existía
really good video, dont stop making these
ty for ur videos, greetings from spain
Thanks for watching! Greetings from Bulgaria, love Spain!
@@rewriting-history Love bulgaria!!
all of the stuff you said doesnt sound too unrealistic but i think th history goes far that we cant really predict it so im going to rate it a decent 7/10
This is real good score for me
This is so good!
Glad you liked it!
This feels very realistic. 8/10
Great, I'm really improving! This is good news for the community!
I can agree that this is an interesting concept seeing how Spain could interfere in foreign affairs.
Glad you liked the idea, hope you liked the video too!
The Spanish Empire not collapsing at all is like a 3/10 or 2 but ignoring the crazy premise, your approach was like a 7/10 with the details of how it might survive and the effects. Good job!
This is the video i wanted 😊👍
I'm glad you want that, hope you liked it!
I give a 8 to realism because I think Romania would join ww1 to reclaim Transilvania or Hungary would have revelled before the end of the war to Austrians, but still a fantastic video 🤝
There's no possible way Lincoln would've allowed Spain to keep Florida.
Depends, only if the civil war gets real bad
I don't think Spain cares about Florida, it would look for other benefits
8/10, In WW1 Spain would probably get Gibraltar as a reward from the UK, and i think that Croatia would get indipendance and that Vojvodina would have been given to Serbia.
The video should start with Spain never ceding Louisiana to France around 1800s, Or that Spain never lets Napoleon's army enter the peninsula
Dang why did we get the worst timeline.
I disagree, most people really liked it
this looks very good
And it is, you will love it!
good video, keep it up!
I will, so soon I will upload more videos like that
Hey Rewriting i love this concept and idea and the historical facts seeing spains options i give it a 9 on the realism scale
I think the video deserves a 6-7/10 on the realism meter
This is still really good, appreciate that!
I think that if the carlists rose to power the franco-prussian war, triggered by the possiblility of Leopold of Hohenzollern being elected as a spanish monarch, would have been at least delayed.
Apart from that, great video! I really enjoy your content, and as a spaniard, I was really happy to see a video regarding my country. 9/10 realism is my guess
one of if not the best video you've made yet, good narration and a good balance between realism and not making spain collapse, 10 out of 10!
Appreciate that so much! This is such an accomplishment for me!
Can’t wait to watch it when I’m free sorry I couldn’t watch it live
That's fine, comment later and let me know if you liked it!
8 in realism, because in my opinion Spain would, due to greater influence, gain greater posessions in Scramble of Africa.
Also, Spain per se didn't had reasons to join Entente besides their ruler with limited competences due to his liberalisation (if joining Central Powers they could get some French border territories and colonies (or in extreme case France under personal union (Bourbon ruler))), Spain would stay neutral (or situation similiar to Greece)
Honestly Russia not taking any German lands after a first word war like this I would deem highly unlikely. Beyond that loved the video
Glad you liked it! It's a bit older content and I have improved a lot since then
As a basque, this video was just awesome, I loved it
Really glad to hear that from you! Appreciate ut
I really like this video, thought very optimistic to say the least. I don't think they would've been able to keep as much of their empire, like Argentina. Also love your take on Carlos, definetly can see how he could become like a Napoleon III type figure but for Spain
A+ for originality but C- for realism, ain't no way they're cool with the US
You should do a part two with a more realistic take I'd love to see that
If they had neutralized Argentina around 1810 there would be no territorial losses, The Mexican War of Independence was neutralized for the first 3 most violent years, after that they would just have to wait
I love the part where Peru asks for independence when Peru in real life was the only viceroyalty that wanted to remain in the Spanish empire for almost the entirety of 1810-1825
I gave a 9 in realism. Great video i loved it!
Appreciate that! Really glad you liked it!
During the 15th, 16th, and early 17th centuries, Spain was the hegemonic world power. Neither France nor England dared to cough at him. Until the battle of Rocroi.
And if Portugal had not become independent, Brazil would now speak Spanish, not Portuguese.
Wonderful video! Btw slight correction, mehmed the fifth didn't rule the country, he was just a figurehead. Talaat pasha was the ruler
11:54
Btw apparently he didn't know there was a war
amazing!
Appreciate that!
Your maps look amazing
Wouldn't Spain gain more african colonies because of its power at the time? I think they would keep or even expand theyre coast in Cameron all of morocco and maybe some additional scattered colonies like germany
Yes, I forgot to include them in the scramble for Africa, big mistake in my part
Video absolutely amazing bro but please do a what if japan became a superpower video
In the future I will inevitably do it!
I'd say it's a 7 or an 8 on realism, because some things were just tricky and random but one other thing, which is the landtaking from Germany after the lost war, is quite different to my first expectation
Man, you need to do a what if D. Sebastião from Portugal didn't dissapear in morroco, I think this has potencial to make a cool scenario.
Suggestion: What If Poland Lithuania Never Got partitioned? Basically in this world Austria And maybe Prussia protect Poland with especially Austria getting a Habsburg Candidate to become leader and in return of the alliance Austria Would Give Up The Polish majority of Galicia (Not Ukrainian Though) and with this I would see that Russia has minor expansion into the Baltics and Ukraine (So Like Just A little Bit Weaker Poland Than Before The Partitions) With this I would say Either during the Austro Prussian Wars Russia invades Poland While Austria's distracted leaving Poland To Fall In Russian Hands (most likely most territories become a puppet government) Or a later Hungarian Uprising in Austria Russia invades and a compromise comes with the borders from the 3rd partition.
Seems like a great idea, I can do that in the future, as now I don't have enough knowledge on that topic!
So recently I wondered about one hypothetical alt-history scenario:
What if Belgium had mountainous terrain?
I’d give this a 10 for realism because I think what Spain would do this to continue to secure its position as a global power
Really glad that you liked it!
Great Video!! The only thing that i think is missing is the scramble of africa as i think this spain would get more and ww1 peace treaty as i think spain would want some compensation as for example gibraltar, but still very good
I agree with you! I missed this aspect and I regret it
Spain had netherlands, i didnt see in the map
Era propiedad del rey de España,no del reino español.
La mejor timeline
I appreciate you liked it!
why would the "colonies" they werent try to independencede from spain for no reason? they didnt wanted for independence the majority of people
This is actually wrong. The criollos (spanish born in the Americas from peninsular parents), who held the vast majority of power in the different Viceroyalties, supported Ferdinand VII's absolute monarchy. The Viceroyalties and General Captancies commenced the independence movement due to the influence of masonry from the time of French-conquered Spain. Bolivar and all his entourage, along with the rebels in the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata (current Argentina), which was the first of the overseas territories to rebel, were all bourgeois masons. The masonry was the cause for the downfall of the Spanish Empire.
One thing i didn't get was why spain would willingly give land to the US and the US, Florida, since it's so geographically stategic, maybe louisiana. The adam onis treaty was a one and done deal bc it formerly set the borders and prevented US expansion its why they didn't renew a version of this with Mexico irl. Great video tho keep up the good work
Spanish Empire Remains -> The good Timeline
15:38 actually the German empire did have elections and was a constitutional monarchy. The people could elect the Reichstag and in the early 1900s the social democrats were winning.
Can you do if the British empire and French empire didn’t collapse that would be a great scenario because both collapsed due to decolonisation great video
what about a similar scenario but if Portugal didn’t send the king back to Portugal and sent Pedro instead?
personally dont find this scenario realistic, as in my opinion even with Spain as an enemy, the german army mustnt be underestimated. Yes, their gains would be a little less, but they would still definetely end 1914 on french/belgian soil and Tannenberg would also still be won, as russia was just that technologically inferior. The most unrealistic part to me however is the fact, that spain would be able to hold its empire together, with the divergence beeing only after the napoleonic wars. Thats because, due to the way, that Spain had treated its domains before the people would have used any chance to break away, as seen during the napoleaonic wars, because many south american nations already broke away in the 1810 and not the 1820 as you said. Thats why I personally would give it a 3 outta 10 accuracy wise, however it still was a well made video and I still did enjoy watching it, keep up the good work
False, in real life Spain on the verge of collapse destroyed any dream of independence of New Spain, Mexico became independent due to the betrayal of Realistas* army, Furthermore, many movements in 1810 were not independence, that was until around 1812-1814, In the reconquest of America, only Argentina resisted in 1810s, Spain could win, The majority of the population supported Spain in the early years, an early and quick victory before 1816 would have easily maintained the empire.
Will we watch the video about Greece or we have to by member (мембътсво/членство )
It will release in 2 days, but if somebody buys membership, they can watch it right now, as I decided to start giving some early access
@@rewriting-history ths for The answer
I'd give it a 7-to-8; the assumption that Lincoln would go for a third term seems a stretch, although continued Republican control for that term seems likely.
The one big flaw is not taking into account the rise of industrial wealth redistribution. Out of curiosity, what would be the position of your "Nuevo Imperio Español" in terms of business interests coming to the fore? If these companies are allowed the same ability to wield influence as they were in the US and Britain, there might be decisions made where Spanish business entities pushed the Empire into taking actions that would knock the scenario off target. If that's addressed at some point (i.e., more worker considerations taken into account more quickly than they had been in America and the UK), you'd still be on track with this.
Otherwise, this was pretty good.
Spain could have gotten more in the scramble for Africa due to there military strength
Can you britain forms the imperial federation even though you mentioned it in this video i want a full video about it
I like this :)
Glad you liked it!
@@rewriting-history large hungary