William Eggleston vs Stephen Shore
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- Photographers William Eggleston and Stephen Shore are often mentioned together when talking about color photography in the 20th Century.
And, no, art is not actually a competition. So when I say "versus" in this title, it's not to crown a winner, it's to acknowledge that these two greats are very different photographers. So let's compare and contrast!
INDEX
0:00 - Intro - Two different color photographers
0:18 - Background: Walker Evans disdain for color
0:33 - Helen Levitt & Saul Leiter were using color in the 1950s
0:41 - The influence of John Szarkowski (director of photography at MoMA)
1:39 - My observations about the differences between Shore & Eggleston
1:54 - Shore calls his work "consciously casual"
2:39 - Eggleston says "it is what it is"
3:18 - How their use of color compares
3:56 - Gear: 35mm vs 8x10
5:09 - Food - Aesthetic vs Documentary
5:51 - How they documented their work
6:34 - Portraiture
6:57 - What have you observed about Stephen Shore and William Eggleston?
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Very interesting as Shore and Eggleston are two of my favorite photographers. I think that their aesthetics and reasons for taking pictures are more similar than either would care to admit.
Yes! They’re both observationists at the core. To me, anyways!
great review, I see Eggleston as a Southern photographer who chose to photograph things in and of the south. I see Shore as a travel photographer. Most of his works especially from Common Places being taken while on multiple road trips. Also let's not forget A lot of Shores work was taken with Large format cameras whereas most of Eggleston's work was shot with 35mm and sometimes medium format.
I think you are spot on in your assessment. I love both their work but Eggleston is an utter genius as he is so free. In musical terms, I equate them to Clapton (Shore) and Hendrix (Eggleston).
Interesting comparison, thanks!
Thanks! It’s fascinating to me that they’re so similar in subject matter but such different people.
thanks for sharing, both wonderful photographers that i love.
Thanks for watching! ✌️📷
Fascinating as always, thanks Zach!
I'm enjoying your commentary
Thanks! So glad to hear that. Happy to have some people who want to talk about photography with me ✌️📷
"Perfectly banal perhaps." God bless critics.
"Consciously casual" is really helpful, too. I've been thinking a lot about what I want out of my photography work, and oddly, it's by exploring some of the oddballs that I'm starting to find it.
Muriyama - "I want to take a lot of nasty photos." "The camera doesn't matter."
With Shore, I like when he talks about about how he composed. Eggleston moves made me think of how people say Winogrand is more like an athlete holding a camera.
This was great. Learned and thought about a lot.
Thanks for sharing :) really happy I found your videos! Just ordered my first Eggleston book. Also, just got a copy of Color Correction by Ernst Hass from the library. Would love to see a video on Hass :)
Thanks again!
Glad you’re here! Which Eggleston book did you get? I got Mystery of the Ordinary a few months back and I love it! Steidl has a 10 volume set of The Democratic Forest that’s I’d love to get my hands on. It’s like $700. 😅
I just started reading more about Haas. I’ve known his photos for a while but not his story. Will definitely post on him in the near future.
Hey brother :) I got mystery of the Ordinary as well. I remember unknowingly walking in to a Eggleston exhibition at the Metropolitan Museum in New York six years ago being blown away. I didn't realize it was Eggleston's work until I learned about him in 2023. Books can get really expensive. Rediscovering the library has allowed me to flip through books I've been wanting to see for years and couldn't afford. Highly recommend checking out the local library. I've been able to take out books I can't afford to buy. The library system rocks @ZACHDOBSONPHOTO
loved the comparisons including the book design ie impact of captions and no,captions on the page. thank you.
Great video, thank you. It looks to me like Eggleston uses something like a 35mm lens most of the time. Wondering if you or anyone else could comment on his lens choice. Many thanks
Awesome video.. interesting that Eggleston didn’t have any real desire to explain when or where. Amazing photos!! Some truly banal and others just seemingly so from Shore.. but then also from both.. 😅
Glad you enjoyed it! I had fun looking for similarities and differences between them
I recently did a deep dive into William Eggleston and this video must have come up as a result. Before watching, I had only seen Stephen Shore’s stuff here and there. These photographers who take photos in a manner that captures the everyday like this are really appealing to me. Cool video and nice intro for me into Stephen Shore.
Glad you liked it! I highly recommend seeing Shore’s book Uncommon Places in person if possible. Once I saw how highly detailed those large format images are, it really increased how much I like them!
" There are as many paths to god as there are souls on Earth " said Rumi, the 13th century Persian poet and philospher. I can't add any more to that.
Which focal lengths did William Eggleston use?
I think mostly 50mm. Possibly sometimes 35mm
@@ZACHDOBSONPHOTO not 21mm or 28mm?
My God! I didn't expect Eggleston to be such a slob when it comes to everything around the photo. His compositions are exquisit. One would expect there to be more than "I felt like it" to it.
But then, it could also be an artistic persona to keep up the mystery so people don't get too close up with his specific method?
See.Feel. click.
When someone is talked about enough, they become famous.
Kinda the definition right? 😅
Ok let's give it a go stevenjb.9275
Ahhh...Eggleston...the patron saint of clueless photographers...maybe grandmas brownie pictures were great after all!!!
yeah if it's not a beautiful portrait or sunset its tough to fathom