After 40+ years of war gaming across many, many systems I still believe that Epic Space Marine 2nd ed was the best-balanced war game I have ever played, a scale that felt, well epic - you could still appreciate the mini's but there was enough of them that you felt like you were war gaming and not involved in a glorified skirmish with ridiculous range bands. The rules balanced objective VP's with an excellent break point for VP's unit system, making attrition really meaningful. The hidden orders and you go I go turns created incredible tension and an excellent simple application of a quasi-fog-of-war. It nicely balanced simple with engaging with nuanced strategy. This Legion Imperialis looks like it is taking a lot of the DNA and that game, and I am so all in if it does, the hype for me is real.
Thanks for that Chris, blimey, twice in a week, does this mean we're going out? 😅 Dark 'Angles' look a bit restrictive, but seems stronk! I really hope you're on the radar for some pre-release stuff, I'm quite concerned the game will struggle if it's just sent to the bigger channels that have to do the 40k crap for views (i have a couple of freinds on the getting it early list)
You're welcome mate. To be fair making these vids of and when I get any info doesn't take long nothing like making a battle report! We are not on any pre list and will be ordering just like everyone else 😁
I hope you can make a rule breakdown for the game. Your quality of video would be amazing. Promise to spread the video throughout several Facebook groups
Can't promise anything bit who can say. They take ages to make and the reason I managed to the Titanicus how to vids was purely due to the covid lockdowns. But when I have a propper studio to work in never sat never. Thanks for the faith 😁
I 3D print and can do most rhe range before anything is released. But i olan getting the boxes set and all the infantry sets to support the hobby. But ive been trialing white undercoat, a light flesh wash in the armour joinds, a black wash in the groin, inner elbow and back of the knee areas. Paint the boltgun black. Then contrast Imperial fists yellow over. My god it makes it so easy. Lol Be careful to not leave much of the wash stains on the open areas of the armour as it will show through. But makes painting in large numbers at a small scale easy.
@@Tabletop_Standard the first post, was auto translation... What i meant to say: actually I didn’t want to play Epic scale games anymore. To many minis to paint. But Legions looks really nice to me.
@tobiasdageforde6885 ah cool. Well in fact they are very quick and easy to paint. Less details to worry about. I've always loved small scale games. And it looks awesome 👌🏻
Being an old Guard player happy to have a command structure, may miss a commissar or two.... a little glad that its delayed as have 2nd edition eldar and 5th edition warhammer eleves to clear off the table. Have been watching the HH videos, really enjoying them.
Skeptical cat is skeptical. Someone's just likely just taken the teased rules & added some made up some for their favorite Legions. Why else would Dark angels get an entire paragraph of rules while & World eaters just get "you reroll an attack"
I'm just hoping they keep the stats accurate to how they were reflecting hoe they should be. Like hoe space marines were in Epic. If they try make the solar auxila and legiones astartes not too different in stats it'll be what makes the game stale.
@@Tabletop_Standard Agreed. I just am hoping it it works well as the old system worked very well. An with so many more interested in this "new" system I don't want to see them discouraged by anything Also just noticed I typed "hoe space marines". Lol
After 40+ years of war gaming across many, many systems I still believe that Epic Space Marine 2nd ed was the best-balanced war game I have ever played, a scale that felt, well epic - you could still appreciate the mini's but there was enough of them that you felt like you were war gaming and not involved in a glorified skirmish with ridiculous range bands. The rules balanced objective VP's with an excellent break point for VP's unit system, making attrition really meaningful. The hidden orders and you go I go turns created incredible tension and an excellent simple application of a quasi-fog-of-war. It nicely balanced simple with engaging with nuanced strategy. This Legion Imperialis looks like it is taking a lot of the DNA and that game, and I am so all in if it does, the hype for me is real.
Oh yeah it's totally based of 2nd edition space marine which I'm kinda glad about. Keeps epic armageddon as its own game still which is great 👍🏻
Thanks for that Chris, blimey, twice in a week, does this mean we're going out? 😅
Dark 'Angles' look a bit restrictive, but seems stronk! I really hope you're on the radar for some pre-release stuff, I'm quite concerned the game will struggle if it's just sent to the bigger channels that have to do the 40k crap for views (i have a couple of freinds on the getting it early list)
You're welcome mate. To be fair making these vids of and when I get any info doesn't take long nothing like making a battle report!
We are not on any pre list and will be ordering just like everyone else 😁
I hope you can make a rule breakdown for the game. Your quality of video would be amazing.
Promise to spread the video throughout several Facebook groups
Can't promise anything bit who can say. They take ages to make and the reason I managed to the Titanicus how to vids was purely due to the covid lockdowns. But when I have a propper studio to work in never sat never. Thanks for the faith 😁
Thanks forfhe update Chris. I think I am going to like this game. Already working on terrain for it
Agreed it's looking awesome so far
I 3D print and can do most rhe range before anything is released. But i olan getting the boxes set and all the infantry sets to support the hobby.
But ive been trialing white undercoat, a light flesh wash in the armour joinds, a black wash in the groin, inner elbow and back of the knee areas. Paint the boltgun black. Then contrast Imperial fists yellow over.
My god it makes it so easy. Lol
Be careful to not leave much of the wash stains on the open areas of the armour as it will show through.
But makes painting in large numbers at a small scale easy.
Wish they decided to have a great Crusade supplement
Eldar and orks
I love the Heresy I'm totally OK with it as is to be fair
@@Tabletop_Standard just brings in more players who don't want to be marines
@@niners.own.the.packers Heresy is Hersey 😁 But there will be imperial army, deamons, auxilia, knights, Titans.
@@Tabletop_Standardbut there so much before the heresy where all these fantastic models could be used. Where there were Xenon and not just demons
@@AubLambe I highly recommend Epic Armageddon then, all the rules are free and complete and lots of 3d prints and 3rd party models out there
Legions appeals to me very much. Damned! I just wanted to play skirmishers..
I don't follow?
@@Tabletop_Standard the first post, was auto translation... What i meant to say: actually I didn’t want to play Epic scale games anymore. To many minis to paint. But Legions looks really nice to me.
@tobiasdageforde6885 ah cool. Well in fact they are very quick and easy to paint. Less details to worry about. I've always loved small scale games. And it looks awesome 👌🏻
@@Tabletop_Standard played epic eldar in the '90s. Loved it
@tobiasdageforde6885 you still can, armageddon is a great rule set still going strong 💪
Shame it's delayed
Agreed!
Can't wait to field an actual Solar Auxilia Tank Regiment.
It's all about the tanks and Titans
With the launch delay, I'm guessing they found massive problems in the books, probably unit costings, and pulled them back to reprint.
That or they think they haven't got enough for the original release day?
@@Tabletop_Standard thats my suspicion, they may have fallen behind in the plastic production for the initial release
@chernobyl68 I'm not looking forward to the stress of pre order day
@@Tabletop_Standard Almost definitely logistics problems with distribution for the launch.
Same here, I'm set to go all in on this as I love the idea of huge Horus Heresy battles but dreading the pre-order roulette....
Being an old Guard player happy to have a command structure, may miss a commissar or two.... a little glad that its delayed as have 2nd edition eldar and 5th edition warhammer eleves to clear off the table. Have been watching the HH videos, really enjoying them.
Cheers bud glad you're enjoying the show. I have a baby due in October so really don't want this clashing with that 😅
I admire your loyalty to 30k, fingers crossed all will happen in a timely fashion!
@leefisher6766 30k is just such an awesome tale I love it... 40k isn't what it used to be but that's a whole conversation
Skeptical cat is skeptical. Someone's just likely just taken the teased rules & added some made up some for their favorite Legions. Why else would Dark angels get an entire paragraph of rules while & World eaters just get "you reroll an attack"
Well exactly. Rumours are just rumours till they're not
@Tabletop_Standard Still waiting for a rumor about the box price. I do dearly want to support this game, but not if GW think I'm gonna pay $500 for it
I'm not sure what it would be in $ but I'm expecting it to be around £120-£150 UK
I'm just hoping they keep the stats accurate to how they were reflecting hoe they should be. Like hoe space marines were in Epic.
If they try make the solar auxila and legiones astartes not too different in stats it'll be what makes the game stale.
That'll only danger coming off the back of 2nd edition but on the whole its looking very good so far 👌🏻
@@Tabletop_Standard Agreed. I just am hoping it it works well as the old system worked very well. An with so many more interested in this "new" system I don't want to see them discouraged by anything
Also just noticed I typed "hoe space marines". Lol
@@BroadHobbyProjects Space Marines are hoes 😁
Ultramarines for me. Rerolls all the way
Do love the 13th in 30k
@@Tabletop_Standard shame they did not much
@@christopherlloyd-northampt3514 Calth is an excellent war zone
I would love you forever if you would share your custodes 6/8mm stls? I saw you mentioned having them somewhere and it would be a mega help
Message me on Instagram if you can?
@@Tabletop_Standard Have done so thanks
What the hell is a dark Angle?
Well if 90 degrees is a right angle it must be some kind of wrong angle!? Good spot 😄
@@Tabletop_Standard Maybe objects made from dark matter, have dark angles? 😅
Sounds about right 😏
subscribed good channel
Cheers mate. Much much appreciated 🙏
Wait are we missing some Legions?
Only in the info that I have
Bummer, I'm wanting to see Sons of Horus rules. Trying to decide what legion/legions I want to do 🤣
Rule of cool dude. Just go with your fave legion 😉
@Tabletop_Standard that's the problem, I have a few I like for different reasons 🤣
*builds every Legion to full strength* 🤣🤣🤣
@@marcmiddleton2277 that's clearly what you have to do 😆