There are many reasons for using alternative fuels in oil lamps and lanterns, and economical is not the only reason. Alternative fuels can be multipurpose, used for cooking, heating, preserving, and providing light. But, there are many health benefits for using things such as olive oil as well: burns cleaner, longer, brighter. Such is great for those that have sinus problems or asthma. With a little work, imagination, ingenuity, who knows what you might come up with. Never stop thinking outside the box.
Iv'e tried both and vegetable oil out the bottle seems to be a poor fuel. I had to make my own lamp after wicking problems and even with the flame about 1 inch above the fuel level it still burnt the wick very quickly. The main problem with vegetable oil seems to be it's very high flash point that forces the flame to attack the wick for vapour. The second problem is how thick the oil is and how much trouble most lamps will suck it up. I think there is another 3rd problem with what seems to be either solidified oil/glycerine collecting on components around the flame but that's more of an annoyance. I think it might be worth making biodiesel that's washed and cleaned properly. It appears to be a cross between Kerosene and vegetable oil. It's thicker than diesel but thinner than vegetable oil yet has a flash point over twice as high kerosene yet half that of vegetable oil. It seems like a great choice.
I got an old tin lamp and an iron ring, and went out in the woods and rubbed and rubbed till I sweat like an Injun, calculating to build a palace and sell it; but it warn’t no use, none of the genies come. So then I judged that all that stuff was only just one of Bernie Sander’s lies. I reckoned he believed in the A-rabs and the elephants, but as for me I think different. It had all the marks of a Sunday-school.
@@mrdojob Olive oil is different from other vegetable oils in many ways. It seems to work better for burning than oils from corn, cottonseed, and other thick oils. Don't know about canola/safflower oils, though.
Paraffin lamp oil is purified kerosene which has had the impurities removed. Burning olive oil is going to create carbon monoxide because your wick will dry out and the flame will start burning the wick instead of the fuel. You shouldn't be using high Viscosity, high flashpoint fuels in these lanterns.
In European Countries Yes. In America Paraffin fuel is Paraffin WAX Fuel which is Lamp oil with Paraffin Waxes added to it. Lamp Oil is Refined Kerosene. Paraffin Wax fuel should never be used in any Cotton Wick Lamp or Lantern.
Two points folks; first, carbon monoxide is a by-product of nearly all combustion and not limited to olive oil or dry wicks. Care must always be taken when burning any fuel and that combustion air is available for the flame's efficient burn and exhaust gas flow. In addition a regular air circulation/exchange of air is also necessary for breathing and controlling humidity. Liquid fuels produce lots of water when they burn, so moisture build-up could be a concern. Second, what does it matter if there is paraffin wax in the kerosene? What do you think candles are made from? JP8 is a turbojet engine fuel. Burnes well in oil lamps, oil furnaces and drip-oil stoves. Why? Because lamp oil, kerosene, jet fuel, diesel, liquid paraffin and stove oil are in the same family of hydrocarbon fuels with only slightly different refinement/filtering processes. I have a heater that works well with all these fuels. The bottom line is if you are cold or must have light, just use whatever you can get. Mind the wick gets trimmed properly and regularly for best light and heat with the least smoke. Keep food oils as food - only use them as a last resort. Cheers.
I like olive oil, I've made emergency candles and my wick does not get dry. But I didn't use cotton for the emergency candle come to think of it. I used paper towel or toilet paper. And it is so fun to see something like that burn as long as there is oil!
Lamp oil stores indifinetly, kerosene stores for 5 years and olive oil only stores for two years. Besides olive oil has nutritional value... Good to know that I can use olive oil but I'll stick to lamp oil for emergencies.
If not used in a long while, my regular lamp oil did evaporate in the lantern - not in the container I bought the oil in. But, yes, cooking oils go rancid after a while and stink - though I've never smelled rancid oil burn in a lamp, I've smelled it in an uncleaned oven (roommate's meat fat splattered!!), and it stinks up the house.
Olive oil is also food grade rather than lamp grade mostly anymore... Though it may end up working it's irregularities make it worth finding a soot free lamp oil or something
I've burned oil lamps since the 70s . Growing up we used them a lot. I have probably 15-20 of them. I still use them. Any cooking oil that goes rancid can be used in these lanterns. They don't smell bad because your only using a bit that is drawn through wick. Used motor oil works too. It works better run through a filter a couple times, but it works. So many oils can be used so don't throw them away. Store them.
I bought a used lamp. I didn’t know what type of fuel the previous owner used. I’m brand new to using oil lamps in general. I’ve Always used electric lamps in the past. Anyways, I bought straight up lamp oil from Walmart and filled her up. Almost immediately two thirds of the glass became blackened and smoky. And I had to shut it off. Given that the smoke and soot made it so It was taking away the light that the lamp was producing. Do have any idea as why, exactly, this happens and what to do about it?
Great video. So many people have no method of heating,light,cooking or water purifiers. Simple things us older people just know. It's going to be hard seeing so many suffer during any problems
Olive Oil Should Never be used in Tubular Lanterns or Kerosene Oil Lamps. 3 Factors determine the ability to use a fuel in Wick Lamps or Wick Lanterns. Flash Point (the temperature at which the fuel begins to fume), the Viscosity (thickness of the fuel itself) and the contaminants, usually disguised as Color Dye, Scented Fuels, and Paraffin Fuel. Pure Lamp oil like Medallion Brand is Pure Distillate, has a proper flash point between 124 and 150 Degrees Fahrenheit and is very thin fuel (which means it can travel up cotton wick well. Olive Oil has a flash point around 450 Degrees, is very viscous and can't travel up a wick well. The only Pro is yes, it is likely food grade and thus more safe. However, that does not help the case for Olive Oil. Because the wick can't carry fuel up to the flame fast enough, you WILL end up burning the cotton instead of the fuel, and will create carbon monoxide that indoors is VERY DANGEROUS. DO NOT EVER USE OLIVE OIL. We Must Say this as our customer's safety is important and too many have tried your false claims of using Olive Oil. Please Post a Redaction or Revision as this is Possibly Deadly, None the Less Very Dangerous.
Use carbon felt as the wick and sew in some very fine copper wire through it. This provides thermal feedback to heat and thin the oil. Carbon felt will not burn up like a lamp wick. Extra Virgin Olive oil is pretty darned pure. If you refer to citronella oil then yes, that could be a problem. Nearly ALL flames produce carbon monoxide.
Plant oils should only be used in lamps designed for the purpose of burning it, a clay oil lamp made with an open font or a floating wick oil candle like the Un-Candle was designed for burning such fuel. I had experimented with using biodiesel in inexpensive lanterns and the wicking was less than ideal, I have heard some biofuels are being developed for direct replacement of jet fuel which may end up useful for our purposes as Jet-A is essentially 1-k with some additives. The work on Bio-Jet has been in development for over a decade now but it has only recently seen enough production to be tested in actual aircraft.
I have a small sailboat with a kerosene lantern. The problem is whenever I like the lantern, the boat fills with an unbearable kerosene smell. So what do you suggest?
The reason why you should not burn vegetable oiks is their too high flash point. Wick lanterns are designed to burn fuel which has a flash point range between a minimum of 124 degrees F. and a maximum of 150 degrees F.. Vegetable oils all have very high flashpoints which means you will end up burning much more wick to sustain a flame and when you burn your wick you are generating carbon monoxide which is deadly. Vegetable oils are not a safe substitute for the fuel in wick lanterns which were designed specifically for Kerosene, that is 1-K Kerosene for indoor use. Your lantern will burn brighter and cleaner on Kerosene and your wicks will not clog as they will with vegetable oils. This is well documented information which you can access if you care to do a search.
@@ek8710 different substances have different fumes when burned (kerosene burns much hotter and cleaner than cotton). When you burn a lantern the wick only burns long enough to heat up the liquid kerosene at the end of the wick to the point of vaporizing then the burning kerosene vapor sustains the conversion process of converting liquid kerosene to kerosene vapor, by this time the wick has stopped burning. When burning a wick lantern there is some wick that burns but it is very little compared to the vaporized kerosene. I hope this explanation helps.
I have seen a lot of bug repellent "hacks" of putting herbs and citrus in a jar of water with a floating candle. Do you think adding some sprigs of rosemary and/or a few drops of eucalyptus oil in the olive oil basin would be a good solution for repelling bugs without using citronella?
If there's a Hobby Lobby store in your area, they carry the 3/4" (19mm) wicks on a roll. Usually online ordering only. In central Virginia the 5/8" was they widest they stock in the store.
Also though, make sure your lantern takes the width of the wick you're planning on buying. I bought a lantern that takes a 3/8" wick, but I bought 5/8" wicks.
I use #2 diesel, white gas, kerosene and olive oil and cooking oils >> Diesel is $4.24 a gallon VS. Paraffin and Mineral oil at $16.00 bucks a gallon and higher ~ In these cooking oil to make it thinner used diesel or white gas to thin them down or paraffin oil ~ Also the tip of the wick need to be cut in a V tip ~ This is why i love these lamps, using alternative oils and fuels. Thanks for your time and sharing
Burning white gas in the house is inviting disaster. If things get too hot the gas evaporates, fumes are spread around, a small flame which you already have and boom. Burn the fuel the lantern is designed for.
I've survived handling wheel weights, washing parts in leaded gas, decades of brake jobs, a Honda 3-wheeler and lawn darts. But, this lamp oil thing scares the begeebers out of me. I ma not be able to sleep tonight.
I've tried burning olive oil with a normal kerosene wick they don't work. Cotton is far superior works far better . Make sure your old teeshirt is 100% cotton with zero polyester in the fabric. 100% cotton clothing is becoming extremely hard to obtain these days including 100% cotton socks even more hard to find . Polyester is plastic FYI very flammable and poisonous. Most polyester clothing isn't even made from food grade plastics. Not fire resistant at all. Wool is the best fire retardant substance.
Try looking in the fabric section. I've been wanting to try muslin...looser woven cotton fabrics...just to see if there might be some material when layered and sown together that might feed better and wick better. You are right. The cotton strips I have is from shirts from way back in the day. I try not to throw anything out that can be recycled. Great comment. Thanks for watching.
I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but when burned, olive oil as well as petroleum products will release carcinogens in the fumes that are created. There are no clean burning solutions. Olive oil may produce fewer carcinogenic fumes but they are still present. Venting is necessary. Just something to consider. Thank you for sharing your video.
@@mattandsarahfish8866 " Pure olive oil has been used inside homes since ancient times. Something to think about" That doesn't mean its any better, nor did people live to a ripe old age back then..... something to think about
You can use this lantern as a little lantern as a slow cooker. The olive oil makes the perfect fuel! You can get a wire computer guard, or a coffee pot pot stand. Carefully unfold the little fold in metal that's holding the lid on. The lid can be used as a pot cover. Just a thought. :)
Sir, have you ever seen the oil wick cooking stoves? I learned about them during the Gulf War when our unit got some for each vehicle. It was made in China and had over 12 wicks and burned diesel (which we used for our HMMWV’s so we had plenty of fuel). The stove worked perfectly and as long as we didn’t tip it over in our vehicle, it worked great. We often used it to keep warm late at night while we were on the Iraqi border during our 24 hour observation. I bought one for myself recently on Amazon, they’re about $12-$20 depending on size and quality, it’s a great item to add to my emergency lantern and cooking tool inventory.
Cool DIY. I wish someone on the entire internet had a DIY of how to make an incandescent olive oil lamp, like an Argand lamp or anything based on an Argand lamp. Vegetable oil lamps were used for thousands of years with just a wick in a bowl, and what's going on in this video is very close to that, but it wasn't until feeding cylindrical wicks with oil and air from the center, and feeding them vaporized oil onto a mantle that they started to light a room like a lightbulb did. Even the shape of our electric table lamps came from those. The big shame is that when people moved to kerosene and then electric, it seems we forgot that olive oil can also be used in a system with a mantle, to get 6-10 times the light of just having a wick.
Do you not know about Aladdin incandescent mantle lamps? They are the best ever made, which is why they still make them today, although they are quite expensive new. You can find decent prices online though, and sometimes in antique or junk shops. These are essentially an argand burner that uses kerosene instead of vegetable oil. I don't know if the vegetable oil can wick that far up to the flame, but it may be something you can experiment with.
Hey good people this does work but on a cold day it takes some more time to light the olive oil than to light fuel , also the tee shirt wick burns up three times faster than a standard wick .🙂. Thanks for the video
I use diesel but this is an outside lamp so sometime it smells sometimes it doesn't. everyone has their preferences all the tractors and diesel trucks have a two tanks of 40 gallons each so for me this was more available .
Some one had made a video about using Crisco clear Vegitable Oil in a lamp? And I tried this and it was a disaster. Too much smoke and too much odor. Then I heard about blending the oil with lamp oil? So I used a hypodermic looking plunger for injecting seasonings into meat and instead pulled the plunger up until the Jar I was using was 1 quarter filled and pointed the injector down into the lamp oil to draw up enough to transfer into the Crisco clear Vegitable Oil. And about three times injected the quarter filled smal mason jar. With lamp oil, & you could see a briney liquid blending together. Until I drew the blended oils and squirted them into the resivoir of my lantern. Then shaped the new wick and waited 15 mins. And once it was lit it did not smoke. But was disappointed that it was so dim? Even when raised up? Now I say all this because I have never known how those miners could see before carbide lamps replaced oil lamps? I will have to try using an all cotton T shirt and cut into strips and see how bright my lantern will turn out. But may need to use olive oil and to light it outside until the smoke clears, before bringing into the house.
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Would it increase the wicking effects and preheat the oil used if one was to add some wire to the wick ( like lighter wicks have)? Maybe leaving the wire above the wick in the flame so it can take some heat back down the wick and possible into the reservoir thus preheating and thinning the oil.
I had ideas to develop a heated font for using SVO and biodiesel but it would be difficult if not impossible. You would benefit from just sticking to proven technology from history to burn plant oils in a raw form.
The primary reason for the wire is to give the wick support. As some wicks cannot support themselves enough to stand up straight for a propper flame. Many candle wicks used to use a fine lead wire for this purpose but that was banned back in the 70s. You can still get wired candle wicks but I dont know what kind if wire they use. It would be an interesting study to see if the wire in a lantern wick does have any effect on the fuel temp? Maybe you ciuld do one?
I came back to eat a little crow. Reseached a bit more and found that yes the wired lantern wicks are intended to prewarm the fuel to allow the use of lower grade fuels and not mearly hold the wick up as I had suggested, however it's effectiveness is open to some question. I'm sticking with kerosene, it works the best for me and still the cheapest.
@@richardelliott9511 Thx for the honesty.. About the effectiveness i think it was favoring the old timers days or survival situations. We now rarely suffer the kind of cold where it really makes a difference. Have to consider the ice fishers, fur trappers and such that would have tiny overnighter cabins with severe cold. Even kerosene gets a bit thicker. Supposedly the Deitz style lanterns exchange heat through the side pipes for the same reasons. Did you see the alcohol burners using a sealed jar and a loop of tube where the flame is set on the bottom of the loop thus heating the top of the loop. That one is pretty neat burning vapors. It has been a while i think they fill a small copper tube but filled with sand then bent around a pipe into a loop in and out of jar it had a wick in the entire tube and into the jar. ua-cam.com/video/HFrWw5dgliQ/v-deo.html
thank you very much.. i just bought a few cheap ones today ..(used) and i put regular kerosene in them.. the kind you use in a kerosene heater... the smell didnt bother me much but bothered my wife and kids.. i didnt know there was a particular kind for lanterns but now I think i will try your idea.. the olive oil. take care.
The information in the video is a lie. Please do not use Olive Oil, read my comment at the top of the list. Olive Oil has too high of a flash point, is too viscous, and costs more per gallon. My Recommendations first are to try Medallion Brand Lamp oil (Not the Medallion Paraffin Fuel), You can try Klean Heat found at Home Depot or Lowes (Do not buy the sister product also on the same shelf called "Klean Strip 1-K Kerosene, it will cause a runaway flame that grows and is very dangerous.) Lastly you can try the clean unscented version of "Florascense" found at walmart. All of those fuels are pure, have a good flash point, and are of lower viscosity.
Interesting. I never thought about olive oil. The lamp oil I used at one point pumped out so much soot I didn't like to use it unless I absolutely had to. Thanks for the tip!
I've got 6 ft of lamp wick. It works better. Kerosene is multipurpose, I keep 15 gallons and I can keep the house warm for several days in the winter with a kero heater and have light and cook. Freezing will kill you a lot sooner than kerosene fumes from a good heater. They are still used in Japan.
Couldn't you use one of those old fashioned mop heads as the wick? You have many strands there in a mop head I'm sure will last a long time as individual wicks once cut apart.
You will have a mess to clean up after burning it for a month plant-based oils work temporary, but it’s a mess to clean up later, kerosene or other forms of lamp oil that have work for over 200 years that’s what I’m going with.
I have a Dietz Jupiter bought new, not my first lamp. When I light it the flame dies down in a few minutes, like it isn't getting enough oxygen or fuel, turning the wick up only helps for a while. Any help, it has me stumped.
I appreciate this video so much. After months of trying to put together a hurricane lamp for olive oil, purchasing the brass fittings here, the extra screw lid there which is so hard to find that will allow it to screw onto a mason jar, buying chimneys and then wicks and then different sized jars it came into some money but I figured it was okay as some would be for gifts so friends could burn the much safer olive oil (which is so unlikely to start fires as well as its other advantages), last night I came to the conclusion the project was "dead in the olive oil" because I am unable to made the modifications to cut down the height of the brass fittings enough for olive oil, which prefers not to go far up regular wicks. I'm willing to try new things, but cutting metals free-hand with pocket or utility knives scares the heck out of me. Thanks for showing me there CAN be other ways around this problem! Now I am wondering how many hours a t-shirt wick like that will burn olive oil and also wondering why it works when the braided cotton wicks don't!
Pure olive oil is not good to use in lamps because there is no paraffin wax to keep the wick from being burned out extremely fast. Plus it doesn't give off a clean bright white light.
Cool video! I have the same Deitz lantern.... so what is the advantage of the T-shirt material vs the wick? I can see where this would come in handy in a prepper situation where a wick would be difficult to source. I am a new sub! Keep up the great work
Hello Onion Smoke Shack. Just got through watching a tantalizing video of yours on SMOKED Tri Tip Steaks = Scrumptious = Needless to say, we subscribed to your channel right away! Can't wait to check out your other videos. Thanks for taking the time to watch ours, subscribe, and ask a question as well as your encouragement. The advantage to t-shirt material over the original wick is that the olive oil does not want to wick up as easily. The thinner the material the better it will function. The reason for adding multiple layers of the t-shirt is to help mimic the thickness of the original wick size for the teeth of the feeder to grab hold of so that you can adjust it. It works even better if you take the time to sew them together on the sides and every 1/8 to 1/4 inch down the middle as well. These Deitz lanterns are not "replicas" but are machined on the same equipment as the original lanterns back in the day, though the dies are no longer being worked on here in the U.S.A. but are now located over seas, sad to say.
Take It Outside thanks for the response and for stopping by the Smoke Shack! I live not too far from the Kirkman factory so I have some Kirkman lanterns as well as the Deitz lanterns... love em. It’s a fun place to visit to see all the old and new lanterns that have for sale there in the showroom. I’m a sucker for these lanterns lol... blessing to you my friend and good luck on the channel! I’ll be a regular here! I came over from a post Lasse posted about your channel.
Thank you for watching. We have the same interests. We are new subscribers to your channel and are looking forward to getting "notifications" of future videos. We appreciate your encouragement. Be blessed in the LORD.
Great video my friend! Thanks so much for sharing.. I love those old oil lamps! I haven't used one in a country minute.. but maybe its time i do again they are a great piece of kit! My oldest son has be hospitalized numerous times for Asthma so a clean burning oil like etra virgin olive would be great! Blessings! BCB
Thank you so much for watching. The Deitz lanterns though no longer made in the USA are still cast upon the same dies of yesteryear and therefore are exactly like the originals in every way. If you pick up a lantern and feel inclined to do a video, please let me know as I would love to see it. Stay well my friend and thanks again. ~ matt
Extra virgin olive oil is more expensive and unnecessary. Pomace olive oil -- the last pressing as opposed to the first pressing -- is in fact said to burn better than the extra virgin!
Vegetable oil should not be used in a lamp designed for kerosene because it is too thick to be wicked up. Furthermore, the health hazard of using lamps indoors comes from the soot particles, not the fuel that produces it. For a flame to be illuminating, it must contain soot particles (this is why a "clean" flame that is blue does not produce much light). Therefore, a lamp running on olive oil is just as hazardous as a lamp running kerosene. The health hazard is minimal if these lamps are only used occastionally, but kerosene should be used, not olive oil because you will just end up ruining your wick.
Incorrect on some parts of your comment. Olive Oil is bad because it has too high of a flash point and has a higher viscosity. When you can't keep the wick saturated with oil because the capillary rate of the wick is diminished by a thicker fuel, the wick at the flame dries out and burns wick instead of the fuel. This causes extreme amounts of carbon monoxide and is Very Dangerous. This video promoting the use of Olive Oil Should be taken down before someone asphyxiates as a result of using a bad fuel.
I used natural oils for years. Anything from peanut to canola. Before I understood what flash point meant, I used old tin cans that I just cleaned out and suffed a wick in then poured in some oil. It works but it's not safe. Then again I was just scraping by in the world and needed some light. That helped me out a lot. I never used kerosene and such really. Never knew it could damage your lungs.
You can't believe everything you see on the internet, just because someone says something doesn't make it so. Please refer to this page for accurate information. lanternnet.com/lantern-lamp-fuel/
Question: I have an old hurricane lantern like the one in this video (except mine is red), and I tried using kerosene and a basic lantern wick, but my wick burns out in like 2 minutes! It's so annoying. I'll turn up the wick to make it brighter, it burns for about 3 mins MAX, and then it just burns out. I don't understand it. I remember my grandmother using those lanterns when I was a little kid up north at the cottage. Nanny had the lantern hanging by a chain over the dining table and she use to leave it lit overnight cause there was no electricity in cottage at that time, and the thing would burn all night up until morning - yet mine goes out in 2 minutes!! Am I doing something wrong??....
Perhaps the wick isnt absorbing the kerosene properly. I would make sure you are utilizing the wick correctly and if it still doesnt work i would replace the wick.
Okay you didn't mention what you put in the title how does this cause cancer and why shouldn't I burn oil, video was more on this making a can you explain please
My preferred fuel is b100 biodiesel. It produces a brilliant flame, has a light and inoffensive vegetable oil smell, and is less viscous than olive oil (draws better). If you have b99 or b100 available in your area, give it a try.
Your globe is cracked. You should never light a lamp with a cracked globe or fountain. As the heat will make the glass expand and as it does so it can actually make that cracked glass explode sending sharp glass across the room. You should ALWAYS replace a cracked globe/chimney as soon as you see a crack.
@@williepierce3933 Yes explode. flying burning hot shards of glass can be called a small explosion of glass fragments... not really something to LOL about if you get one in your eye
gee, I just bought an old lamp on ebay. chimney is fine but there is hairline crack inside the lamp shade. its an old GWTW style. Should I be safe enough with the intact chimney and not worry about the outer shade? It is beautiful and is a perfect addition to my bedroom if the power goes out.......
@@bethelle9099 A crack in glass will get bigger overtime. It may take years, but I imagine the heating and cooling of using it will hasten the process. I am no expert, but there may be something you can put on it to seal the crack since it is not in the actual chimney.
Hello Elizabeth. Are you wanting to burn a bright torch like flame - or - a certain type of fuel to keep mosquitoes at bay? Let me know and I will take a look for you.
My initial reaction is not to use such an oil that is meant to ward off mesquitoes in such a lamp. The reason being is that they tend to leave too much soot on the glass globes that would csuse the globes to overheat and crack, potentially cause a hazard. I'm actually allergic to citrenella, and as such we have experimented with adding lavendar oil with a carrier oil or unscented lotion to keep the mosquitoes away very effectively. Hope that helps. Thank you so much for your question. It is good to think outside the box. Happy trails.
PS: Tea tree oil works really well also. Dilute with a carrier oil as with the lavender...use a small amount on a small area of your skin and check for irritation waiting several minutes before applying to other areas. Have fun, stay safe. God bless and thanks again.
Maybe you can help a 63 year old woman lol. I have a whole bunch of thin copper wire and a Dietz lantern. Going to weave somehow, the wire through my wick. Great idea 😊 I have seen a lot about sand batteries and may end up making the most productive one ever because I have a copper bucket. It also has a cast iron handle like a pail. So being very literal, am I learning right that copper increases the temperature, in any way you can use it?
Hello. Do you suppose layered cheesecloth might work for a wick? Just a stab in the dark, but I'd like to have a uniform system that can assure me that it'll work every time, especially in an emergency. Thank you, sir. Really liked your video. I need to do this.
I once knew a guy who had Lamp oil. He had rope and bombs as well and he said It was mine if I had enough rupees. Sadly I only had a 20 so he told me to come back when I was richer.
Awesome! I thought I was the only one who tried that!!!!! Only did it once, when I was running low on kerosene, definitely burned, but not as good as yours. I was using a regular wick though.., very thick and saturated with kerosene.. I meant to try olive oil by itself but kinda forgot about it until now
Olive oil is very sick. I usually buy copper wire so it through the wick in and out all the way through till I get to the bottom of the week the heat from the flame will heat up the wire, reducing the viscosity of your olive oil therefore soaking your wick and letting that burn good best of luck works great for me
Try using a close knitted material: muslin or cotton, layering for thickness and stitching together to feed well. The close knitted fibers well help with the wicking, but you will have to prime the wick first to get it to light. Once the oil warms up via the flame, the oil will continue to be wicked upwards, and burn clean with no harmful chemicals. Thanks for your interest.
The problem with olive oil is it can often be in efficient. Won't burn right and leads to higher wick damage. Some varieties won't even stay lit. Have to get a very thin olive oil for it to be decent.
HEADS UP: There is a comment here from the lantern company saying that NO, it is not OK to use olive oil. I am bummed! Apparently, it is bot burning cleanly at all. The use of it is creating a build up of carbon monoxide. Other places on UA-cam you can find videos showing how the vast majority of carbon monoxide detectors do not work properly…
Peoples talking about olives oil, there are a problem, maybe not for the Florida, here nord canada is cold, olive oil when is cold is suck. Thing about that. Vegetables and olive oil frozen fast, not the paraffin.
@@jastimbal60 I tried and it seems to burn. Not sure how efficient it is. The wick seems to be durning fast, but this is the first time I'm using the lantern. Is it supposed to be a slow burn?
I haven't tried it yet, but do you have to use the tee shirt wick instead of the store bought wick in order for the olive oil to burn more efficiently??
Yes. I would suggest using 100 percent cotton, but have fun using other cotton or linen mayerials. Some woven fabrics seem to wick up better than others. If I get the time and material, I plan on layering / sandwiching different materials ie: t-shirt on the outside with linen on the inside alternating layers in between. Let me know if you beat me to it. Thanks for watching. God bless. Watch yer top knot if in high winds.
Thanks for the tip. I didn't know this could have been a health hazard. Thanks for the info on how well olive oil burns and how bright it is. Keep up the good work. Also will this technique work with all lanterns.
Please dont use olive oil for lighting as your house will smell like a restaurant and kerosene is not proven to cause cancer, asthma and whatever else he said.
@@moistexistence3090 i know, But i kind of like the smell, but dont use t-shirt for the wick as that will definitely cause cancer and asthma, It says in the title that kerosene causes cancer but burning anything inside causes a risk of cancer its not the kerosenes fault
@@moistexistence3090 i like the smell of kerosene if in small amounts but when i go to my cabin where there is no power we use the old style hurricane lantern, and the old style open flame ones, candles, and a indoor propane heater, and after 3 hours in there in gets quite smelly and if something will give you asthma it is sitting in there for a long time
It does. Never use supermarket olive oils they are mixed with other cheaper oils. You have to use pure olive oil like what the Jewish people used to light the menorah.
It doesn't matter. You should never use Olive Oil or any cooking oil in cotton wick lamps or lanterns unless your lamp is of a very specific design and was built over 100 years ago. No cotton wick Lamp or Lantern built in the past 100 years will safely burn olive oil and you are risking Carbon Monoxide inhalation and asphyxiation as a result of following the advise on this video.
Unless you need it for heating I'd use LED lanterns for light and use the oil for cooking. For heating a well insulated micro house this could probably be good. I've used simpler olive oil wick lamps and the make a lot more heat than they do light.
There are many reasons for using alternative fuels in oil lamps and lanterns, and economical is not the only reason. Alternative fuels can be multipurpose, used for cooking, heating, preserving, and providing light. But, there are many health benefits for using things such as olive oil as well: burns cleaner, longer, brighter. Such is great for those that have sinus problems or asthma. With a little work, imagination, ingenuity, who knows what you might come up with. Never stop thinking outside the box.
Iv'e tried both and vegetable oil out the bottle seems to be a poor fuel. I had to make my own lamp after wicking problems and even with the flame about 1 inch above the fuel level it still burnt the wick very quickly. The main problem with vegetable oil seems to be it's very high flash point that forces the flame to attack the wick for vapour. The second problem is how thick the oil is and how much trouble most lamps will suck it up. I think there is another 3rd problem with what seems to be either solidified oil/glycerine collecting on components around the flame but that's more of an annoyance.
I think it might be worth making biodiesel that's washed and cleaned properly. It appears to be a cross between Kerosene and vegetable oil. It's thicker than diesel but thinner than vegetable oil yet has a flash point over twice as high kerosene yet half that of vegetable oil. It seems like a great choice.
I got an old tin lamp and an
iron ring, and went out in the woods and rubbed and rubbed till I sweat like an Injun, calculating to build a palace and sell it; but it warn’t no use, none of the genies come. So then I judged that all that
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@@mrdojob Olive oil is different from other vegetable oils in many ways. It seems to work better for burning than oils from corn, cottonseed, and other thick oils. Don't know about canola/safflower oils, though.
Paraffin lamp oil is purified kerosene which has had the impurities removed. Burning olive oil is going to create carbon monoxide because your wick will dry out and the flame will start burning the wick instead of the fuel.
You shouldn't be using high Viscosity, high flashpoint fuels in these lanterns.
In European Countries Yes. In America Paraffin fuel is Paraffin WAX Fuel which is Lamp oil with Paraffin Waxes added to it. Lamp Oil is Refined Kerosene. Paraffin Wax fuel should never be used in any Cotton Wick Lamp or Lantern.
Two points folks; first, carbon monoxide is a by-product of nearly all combustion and not limited to olive oil or dry wicks. Care must always be taken when burning any fuel and that combustion air is available for the flame's efficient burn and exhaust gas flow. In addition a regular air circulation/exchange of air is also necessary for breathing and controlling humidity. Liquid fuels produce lots of water when they burn, so moisture build-up could be a concern. Second, what does it matter if there is paraffin wax in the kerosene? What do you think candles are made from? JP8 is a turbojet engine fuel. Burnes well in oil lamps, oil furnaces and drip-oil stoves. Why? Because lamp oil, kerosene, jet fuel, diesel, liquid paraffin and stove oil are in the same family of hydrocarbon fuels with only slightly different refinement/filtering processes. I have a heater that works well with all these fuels. The bottom line is if you are cold or must have light, just use whatever you can get. Mind the wick gets trimmed properly and regularly for best light and heat with the least smoke. Keep food oils as food - only use them as a last resort. Cheers.
I like olive oil, I've made emergency candles and my wick does not get dry.
But I didn't use cotton for the emergency candle come to think of it. I used paper towel or toilet paper. And it is so fun to see something like that burn as long as there is oil!
Paraffin oil and wax is toxic. Its not meant to be burned in enclosed spaces like in doors.
Lamp oil stores indifinetly, kerosene stores for 5 years and olive oil only stores for two years. Besides olive oil has nutritional value... Good to know that I can use olive oil but I'll stick to lamp oil for emergencies.
I've just used some parrafin (kerosene) from the 70s in my feuerhand 275 from the 60s and it works perfectly
If not used in a long while, my regular lamp oil did evaporate in the lantern - not in the container I bought the oil in. But, yes, cooking oils go rancid after a while and stink - though I've never smelled rancid oil burn in a lamp, I've smelled it in an uncleaned oven (roommate's meat fat splattered!!), and it stinks up the house.
Olive oil is also food grade rather than lamp grade mostly anymore... Though it may end up working it's irregularities make it worth finding a soot free lamp oil or something
I've burned oil lamps since the 70s . Growing up we used them a lot. I have probably 15-20 of them. I still use them. Any cooking oil that goes rancid can be used in these lanterns. They don't smell bad because your only using a bit that is drawn through wick. Used motor oil works too. It works better run through a filter a couple times, but it works. So many oils can be used so don't throw them away. Store them.
I bought a used lamp. I didn’t know what type of fuel the previous owner used. I’m brand new to using oil lamps in general. I’ve Always used electric lamps in the past. Anyways, I bought straight up lamp oil from Walmart and filled her up. Almost immediately two thirds of the glass became blackened and smoky. And I had to shut it off. Given that the smoke and soot made it so It was taking away the light that the lamp was producing.
Do have any idea as why, exactly, this happens and what to do about it?
Great video. So many people have no method of heating,light,cooking or water purifiers. Simple things us older people just know. It's going to be hard seeing so many suffer during any problems
Olive Oil Should Never be used in Tubular Lanterns or Kerosene Oil Lamps. 3 Factors determine the ability to use a fuel in Wick Lamps or Wick Lanterns. Flash Point (the temperature at which the fuel begins to fume), the Viscosity (thickness of the fuel itself) and the contaminants, usually disguised as Color Dye, Scented Fuels, and Paraffin Fuel.
Pure Lamp oil like Medallion Brand is Pure Distillate, has a proper flash point between 124 and 150 Degrees Fahrenheit and is very thin fuel (which means it can travel up cotton wick well.
Olive Oil has a flash point around 450 Degrees, is very viscous and can't travel up a wick well. The only Pro is yes, it is likely food grade and thus more safe. However, that does not help the case for Olive Oil. Because the wick can't carry fuel up to the flame fast enough, you WILL end up burning the cotton instead of the fuel, and will create carbon monoxide that indoors is VERY DANGEROUS. DO NOT EVER USE OLIVE OIL. We Must Say this as our customer's safety is important and too many have tried your false claims of using Olive Oil.
Please Post a Redaction or Revision as this is Possibly Deadly, None the Less Very Dangerous.
Finally, some one who actually knows what they are talking about.
@@vinquinn Well we are in the business of oil lighting.
Use carbon felt as the wick and sew in some very fine copper wire through it. This provides thermal feedback to heat and thin the oil. Carbon felt will not burn up like a lamp wick.
Extra Virgin Olive oil is pretty darned pure.
If you refer to citronella oil then yes, that could be a problem.
Nearly ALL flames produce carbon monoxide.
Plant oils should only be used in lamps designed for the purpose of burning it, a clay oil lamp made with an open font or a floating wick oil candle like the Un-Candle was designed for burning such fuel. I had experimented with using biodiesel in inexpensive lanterns and the wicking was less than ideal, I have heard some biofuels are being developed for direct replacement of jet fuel which may end up useful for our purposes as Jet-A is essentially 1-k with some additives. The work on Bio-Jet has been in development for over a decade now but it has only recently seen enough production to be tested in actual aircraft.
I have a small sailboat with a kerosene lantern. The problem is whenever I like the lantern, the boat fills with an unbearable kerosene smell. So what do you suggest?
The reason why you should not burn vegetable oiks is their too high flash point. Wick lanterns are designed to burn fuel which has a flash point range between a minimum of 124 degrees F. and a maximum of 150 degrees F.. Vegetable oils all have very high flashpoints which means you will end up burning much more wick to sustain a flame and when you burn your wick you are generating carbon monoxide which is deadly. Vegetable oils are not a safe substitute for the fuel in wick lanterns which were designed specifically for Kerosene, that is 1-K Kerosene for indoor use. Your lantern will burn brighter and cleaner on Kerosene and your wicks will not clog as they will with vegetable oils. This is well documented information which you can access if you care to do a search.
Shhhhh. Let them take care of themselves.
Why would the wick burning produce more CO than the fuel if they're both burned in the same atmosphere?
@@ek8710 different substances have different fumes when burned (kerosene burns much hotter and cleaner than cotton). When you burn a lantern the wick only burns long enough to heat up the liquid kerosene at the end of the wick to the point of vaporizing then the burning kerosene vapor sustains the conversion process of converting liquid kerosene to kerosene vapor, by this time the wick has stopped burning. When burning a wick lantern there is some wick that burns but it is very little compared to the vaporized kerosene. I hope this explanation helps.
What if I use stainless steel mesh as my wick?
what if you try that out and find out how hat works for you? @@WaabiiSaabii
I have seen a lot of bug repellent "hacks" of putting herbs and citrus in a jar of water with a floating candle. Do you think adding some sprigs of rosemary and/or a few drops of eucalyptus oil in the olive oil basin would be a good solution for repelling bugs without using citronella?
If there's a Hobby Lobby store in your area, they carry the 3/4" (19mm) wicks on a roll. Usually online ordering only. In central Virginia the 5/8" was they widest they stock in the store.
Also though, make sure your lantern takes the width of the wick you're planning on buying. I bought a lantern that takes a 3/8" wick, but I bought 5/8" wicks.
I use #2 diesel, white gas, kerosene and olive oil and cooking oils >> Diesel is $4.24 a gallon VS. Paraffin and Mineral oil at $16.00 bucks a gallon and higher ~ In these cooking oil to make it thinner used diesel or white gas to thin them down or paraffin oil ~ Also the tip of the wick need to be cut in a V tip ~ This is why i love these lamps, using alternative oils and fuels. Thanks for your time and sharing
What does a V tip do? Like a regular v or upside down V?
@@northernadventurer160 cut the wick in a upside down V > point on top > Like ( A ) it flames better than flat or round cut
@@426superbee4 cool I'll give that a try
@@northernadventurer160 Cheers 👍
Burning white gas in the house is inviting disaster. If things get too hot the gas evaporates, fumes are spread around, a small flame which you already have and boom. Burn the fuel the lantern is designed for.
If the arsenic contaminated well water hasn't killed me yet, I couldn't give a rats fart about the hazards of lamp oil.
I've survived handling wheel weights, washing parts in leaded gas, decades of brake jobs, a Honda 3-wheeler and lawn darts. But, this lamp oil thing scares the begeebers out of me. I ma not be able to sleep tonight.
I've tried burning olive oil with a normal kerosene wick they don't work. Cotton is far superior works far better . Make sure your old teeshirt is 100% cotton with zero polyester in the fabric. 100% cotton clothing is becoming extremely hard to obtain these days including 100% cotton socks even more hard to find . Polyester is plastic FYI very flammable and poisonous. Most polyester clothing isn't even made from food grade plastics. Not fire resistant at all. Wool is the best fire retardant substance.
Try looking in the fabric section. I've been wanting to try muslin...looser woven cotton fabrics...just to see if there might be some material when layered and sown together that might feed better and wick better. You are right. The cotton strips I have is from shirts from way back in the day. I try not to throw anything out that can be recycled. Great comment. Thanks for watching.
Try get cooking twine, it's 100% cotton
Very helpful thanks was sure how to do the new lantern I got
I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but when burned, olive oil as well as petroleum products will release carcinogens in the fumes that are created. There are no clean burning solutions. Olive oil may produce fewer carcinogenic fumes but they are still present. Venting is necessary.
Just something to consider. Thank you for sharing your video.
Aprreciate the comment. Pure olive oil has been used inside homes since ancient times. Something to think about. Thanks for watching.
@@mattandsarahfish8866 " Pure olive oil has been used inside homes since ancient times. Something to think about" That doesn't mean its any better, nor did people live to a ripe old age back then..... something to think about
@@mattandsarahfish8866 Go and study chemistry you moron😪
Trevor White what carcinogens are released in olive oil?
@@victoriaallen8271 oh you know...
You can use this lantern as a little lantern as a slow cooker. The olive oil makes the perfect fuel! You can get a wire computer guard, or a coffee pot pot stand. Carefully unfold the little fold in metal that's holding the lid on. The lid can be used as a pot cover. Just a thought. :)
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Sir, have you ever seen the oil wick cooking stoves? I learned about them during the Gulf War when our unit got some for each vehicle. It was made in China and had over 12 wicks and burned diesel (which we used for our HMMWV’s so we had plenty of fuel). The stove worked perfectly and as long as we didn’t tip it over in our vehicle, it worked great. We often used it to keep warm late at night while we were on the Iraqi border during our 24 hour observation. I bought one for myself recently on Amazon, they’re about $12-$20 depending on size and quality, it’s a great item to add to my emergency lantern and cooking tool inventory.
Perfect - this was just the info I was looking for!
Cool DIY. I wish someone on the entire internet had a DIY of how to make an incandescent olive oil lamp, like an Argand lamp or anything based on an Argand lamp. Vegetable oil lamps were used for thousands of years with just a wick in a bowl, and what's going on in this video is very close to that, but it wasn't until feeding cylindrical wicks with oil and air from the center, and feeding them vaporized oil onto a mantle that they started to light a room like a lightbulb did. Even the shape of our electric table lamps came from those. The big shame is that when people moved to kerosene and then electric, it seems we forgot that olive oil can also be used in a system with a mantle, to get 6-10 times the light of just having a wick.
Do you not know about Aladdin incandescent mantle lamps? They are the best ever made, which is why they still make them today, although they are quite expensive new. You can find decent prices online though, and sometimes in antique or junk shops.
These are essentially an argand burner that uses kerosene instead of vegetable oil. I don't know if the vegetable oil can wick that far up to the flame, but it may be something you can experiment with.
I don't think those run on olive oil. Kind of defeats the point of what he's doing.
@@GreenLegendRan Argand lamps were made to run on whale oil or coal oil.
@@johnwyman6126 Not all of them, and even today, hobbyists make them to run on vegetable oils. ua-cam.com/video/dWUQxDoiHpU/v-deo.html
What if you attached a mantle to an argand lamp and ran it on olive oil?
Hey good people this does work but on a cold day it takes some more time to light the olive oil than to light fuel , also the tee shirt wick burns up three times faster than a standard wick .🙂. Thanks for the video
Very good ideas, paraffin oil should be great and healthier too
thank you I didn't know regular lamp oil is not good... I'm using olive oil now thanks for the tip! so glad I found your video 🙂
I use diesel but this is an outside lamp so sometime it smells sometimes it doesn't. everyone has their preferences all the tractors and diesel trucks have a two tanks of 40 gallons each so for me this was more available .
I can't see the flame height, is there hope to see a new video for this Dietz Air Pilot No:8?
Some one had made a video about using Crisco clear Vegitable Oil in a lamp? And I tried this and it was a disaster. Too much smoke and too much odor. Then I heard about blending the oil with lamp oil? So I used a hypodermic looking plunger for injecting seasonings into meat and instead pulled the plunger up until the Jar I was using was 1 quarter filled and pointed the injector down into the lamp oil to draw up enough to transfer into the Crisco clear Vegitable Oil. And about three times injected the quarter filled smal mason jar. With lamp oil, & you could see a briney liquid blending together. Until I drew the blended oils and squirted them into the resivoir of my lantern. Then shaped the new wick and waited 15 mins. And once it was lit it did not smoke. But was disappointed that it was so dim? Even when raised up? Now I say all this because I have never known how those miners could see before carbide lamps replaced oil lamps?
I will have to try using an all cotton T shirt and cut into strips and see how bright my lantern will turn out. But may need to use olive oil and to light it outside until the smoke clears, before bringing into the house.
Absolutely genius, thank you so much for stopping by, I just subscribed to your channel, I really appreciate it
Thank you for subscribing. When we hit 50 we will have a "give away" === So be sure to check back. Thanks for the encouragement as well. We are looking forward to checking out your other videos. Stay well my friend. See you soon. ~ matt
Thank you for watching and subscribing.
Do you have a video for alternative fuels for emergency generators?
Would it increase the wicking effects and preheat the oil used if one was to add some wire to the wick ( like lighter wicks have)? Maybe leaving the wire above the wick in the flame so it can take some heat back down the wick and possible into the reservoir thus preheating and thinning the oil.
That is a great idea. Thanks for watching and thinking outside the box.
I had ideas to develop a heated font for using SVO and biodiesel but it would be difficult if not impossible. You would benefit from just sticking to proven technology from history to burn plant oils in a raw form.
The primary reason for the wire is to give the wick support. As some wicks cannot support themselves enough to stand up straight for a propper flame. Many candle wicks used to use a fine lead wire for this purpose but that was banned back in the 70s. You can still get wired candle wicks but I dont know what kind if wire they use.
It would be an interesting study to see if the wire in a lantern wick does have any effect on the fuel temp? Maybe you ciuld do one?
I came back to eat a little crow. Reseached a bit more and found that yes the wired lantern wicks are intended to prewarm the fuel to allow the use of lower grade fuels and not mearly hold the wick up as I had suggested, however it's effectiveness is open to some question. I'm sticking with kerosene, it works the best for me and still the cheapest.
@@richardelliott9511 Thx for the honesty.. About the effectiveness i think it was favoring the old timers days or survival situations. We now rarely suffer the kind of cold where it really makes a difference. Have to consider the ice fishers, fur trappers and such that would have tiny overnighter cabins with severe cold. Even kerosene gets a bit thicker. Supposedly the Deitz style lanterns exchange heat through the side pipes for the same reasons. Did you see the alcohol burners using a sealed jar and a loop of tube where the flame is set on the bottom of the loop thus heating the top of the loop. That one is pretty neat burning vapors. It has been a while i think they fill a small copper tube but filled with sand then bent around a pipe into a loop in and out of jar it had a wick in the entire tube and into the jar. ua-cam.com/video/HFrWw5dgliQ/v-deo.html
thank you very much.. i just bought a few cheap ones today ..(used) and i put regular kerosene in them.. the kind you use in a kerosene heater... the smell didnt bother me much but bothered my wife and kids.. i didnt know there was a particular kind for lanterns but now I think i will try your idea.. the olive oil.
take care.
The information in the video is a lie. Please do not use Olive Oil, read my comment at the top of the list. Olive Oil has too high of a flash point, is too viscous, and costs more per gallon. My Recommendations first are to try Medallion Brand Lamp oil (Not the Medallion Paraffin Fuel), You can try Klean Heat found at Home Depot or Lowes (Do not buy the sister product also on the same shelf called "Klean Strip 1-K Kerosene, it will cause a runaway flame that grows and is very dangerous.) Lastly you can try the clean unscented version of "Florascense" found at walmart. All of those fuels are pure, have a good flash point, and are of lower viscosity.
Interesting. I never thought about olive oil. The lamp oil I used at one point pumped out so much soot I didn't like to use it unless I absolutely had to. Thanks for the tip!
Too much soot depends on the lenght of the wick... Shorter wick, less soot
@Fred brandon it's not easy to know everything...🙏🌟✨🕊️
Great video
Great job! Thanks for the useful information!Never considered using olive oil for lamps! must be a 3000 year old secret, eh! Awesome ideas!
Made me chuckle, nearly spit out my coffee. Sure appreciate you watching. Thanks for the comment. Keep being pithy my friend.
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I've got 6 ft of lamp wick. It works better. Kerosene is multipurpose, I keep 15 gallons and I can keep the house warm for several days in the winter with a kero heater and have light and cook. Freezing will kill you a lot sooner than kerosene fumes from a good heater. They are still used in Japan.
Couldn't you use one of those old fashioned mop heads as the wick? You have many strands there in a mop head I'm sure will last a long time as individual wicks once cut apart.
I've thought of that too,being cotton, it should work,but haven't tried it.Good luck!
@takeitoutside Will the olive oil cause rust in the tank?
You will have a mess to clean up after burning it for a month plant-based oils work temporary, but it’s a mess to clean up later, kerosene or other forms of lamp oil that have work for over 200 years that’s what I’m going with.
I have a Dietz Jupiter bought new, not my first lamp. When I light it the flame dies down in a few minutes, like it isn't getting enough oxygen or fuel, turning the wick up only helps for a while. Any help, it has me stumped.
Sunflower oil works pretty good too, just get the cheapest one it will burn for days on a full tank
Can it light well in the cold weather
I thought the glass globe is supposed to raise independent of the brass wick holder....
I appreciate this video so much. After months of trying to put together a hurricane lamp for olive oil, purchasing the brass fittings here, the extra screw lid there which is so hard to find that will allow it to screw onto a mason jar, buying chimneys and then wicks and then different sized jars it came into some money but I figured it was okay as some would be for gifts so friends could burn the much safer olive oil (which is so unlikely to start fires as well as its other advantages), last night I came to the conclusion the project was "dead in the olive oil" because I am unable to made the modifications to cut down the height of the brass fittings enough for olive oil, which prefers not to go far up regular wicks. I'm willing to try new things, but cutting metals free-hand with pocket or utility knives scares the heck out of me. Thanks for showing me there CAN be other ways around this problem! Now I am wondering how many hours a t-shirt wick like that will burn olive oil and also wondering why it works when the braided cotton wicks don't!
This is great! Now I don't have to worry about the smell of paraffin oil in the car!
Could you use grape seed oil? I wanted to finish the lamp oil I was using but I am scared of any possible toxic fumes
Morshu have lamp oil?????
Pure olive oil is not good to use in lamps because there is no paraffin wax to keep the wick from being burned out extremely fast. Plus it doesn't give off a clean bright white light.
Cool video! I have the same Deitz lantern.... so what is the advantage of the T-shirt material vs the wick? I can see where this would come in handy in a prepper situation where a wick would be difficult to source. I am a new sub! Keep up the great work
Hello Onion Smoke Shack. Just got through watching a tantalizing video of yours on SMOKED Tri Tip Steaks = Scrumptious = Needless to say, we subscribed to your channel right away! Can't wait to check out your other videos. Thanks for taking the time to watch ours, subscribe, and ask a question as well as your encouragement. The advantage to t-shirt material over the original wick is that the olive oil does not want to wick up as easily. The thinner the material the better it will function. The reason for adding multiple layers of the t-shirt is to help mimic the thickness of the original wick size for the teeth of the feeder to grab hold of so that you can adjust it. It works even better if you take the time to sew them together on the sides and every 1/8 to 1/4 inch down the middle as well. These Deitz lanterns are not "replicas" but are machined on the same equipment as the original lanterns back in the day, though the dies are no longer being worked on here in the U.S.A. but are now located over seas, sad to say.
Take It Outside thanks for the response and for stopping by the Smoke Shack! I live not too far from the Kirkman factory so I have some Kirkman lanterns as well as the Deitz lanterns... love em. It’s a fun place to visit to see all the old and new lanterns that have for sale there in the showroom. I’m a sucker for these lanterns lol... blessing to you my friend and good luck on the channel! I’ll be a regular here! I came over from a post Lasse posted about your channel.
Wow! Really neat. Perhaps you could do a tour ? I would love to tour a place like that
Thank you for make my this video!
Thank you for watching. We have the same interests. We are new subscribers to your channel and are looking forward to getting "notifications" of future videos. We appreciate your encouragement. Be blessed in the LORD.
How much heat do you get from them? Do you think they'd have any warming effect on an enclosed 3 season porch?
No
Wint everything inside smell like olive oil though if you're burning it indoors?
Great video my friend! Thanks so much for sharing.. I love those old oil lamps! I haven't used one in a country minute.. but maybe its time i do again they are a great piece of kit! My oldest son has be hospitalized numerous times for Asthma so a clean burning oil like etra virgin olive would be great!
Blessings!
BCB
Thank you so much for watching. The Deitz lanterns though no longer made in the USA are still cast upon the same dies of yesteryear and therefore are exactly like the originals in every way. If you pick up a lantern and feel inclined to do a video, please let me know as I would love to see it. Stay well my friend and thanks again. ~ matt
Extra virgin olive oil is more expensive and unnecessary. Pomace olive oil -- the last pressing as opposed to the first pressing -- is in fact said to burn better than the extra virgin!
Natural oil doesn't mean less harmefull byproducts when burning. If you're worried about air quality for your son, dont burn anything indoors
Olive oil can go rancid., How to deal with this?
Vegetable oil should not be used in a lamp designed for kerosene because it is too thick to be wicked up. Furthermore, the health hazard of using lamps indoors comes from the soot particles, not the fuel that produces it. For a flame to be illuminating, it must contain soot particles (this is why a "clean" flame that is blue does not produce much light). Therefore, a lamp running on olive oil is just as hazardous as a lamp running kerosene. The health hazard is minimal if these lamps are only used occastionally, but kerosene should be used, not olive oil because you will just end up ruining your wick.
Incorrect on some parts of your comment. Olive Oil is bad because it has too high of a flash point and has a higher viscosity. When you can't keep the wick saturated with oil because the capillary rate of the wick is diminished by a thicker fuel, the wick at the flame dries out and burns wick instead of the fuel. This causes extreme amounts of carbon monoxide and is Very Dangerous. This video promoting the use of Olive Oil Should be taken down before someone asphyxiates as a result of using a bad fuel.
Have you tried Carbon Felt as a wick ?
BRILLIANT! I love this & I'm going to try to add citronella essential oil to the olive oil for tiki torch, thank you!
Great info! I was looking for the information about health issues regarding the oil lamps.
I used natural oils for years. Anything from peanut to canola. Before I understood what flash point meant, I used old tin cans that I just cleaned out and suffed a wick in then poured in some oil. It works but it's not safe. Then again I was just scraping by in the world and needed some light. That helped me out a lot.
I never used kerosene and such really. Never knew it could damage your lungs.
Thanks for watching and for sharing, caring.
You can't believe everything you see on the internet, just because someone says something doesn't make it so. Please refer to this page for accurate information. lanternnet.com/lantern-lamp-fuel/
Question: I have an old hurricane lantern like the one in this video (except mine is red), and I tried using kerosene and a basic lantern wick, but my wick burns out in like 2 minutes! It's so annoying. I'll turn up the wick to make it brighter, it burns for about 3 mins MAX, and then it just burns out. I don't understand it. I remember my grandmother using those lanterns when I was a little kid up north at the cottage. Nanny had the lantern hanging by a chain over the dining table and she use to leave it lit overnight cause there was no electricity in cottage at that time, and the thing would burn all night up until morning - yet mine goes out in 2 minutes!! Am I doing something wrong??....
Perhaps the wick isnt absorbing the kerosene properly. I would make sure you are utilizing the wick correctly and if it still doesnt work i would replace the wick.
The oil you are using is probably contaminated and is clogging the wick.
@@vinquinn it's probably dirty, the wick feeder, clean it out with a flathead screwdriver
How can I make a reflection
Ebay has wick. Four rolls, 6 feet in length, in four common widths, $11.00. That's what's in my box.
My Duplex oil lamp won't burn olive oil well - the flame is very low. Any thoughts on how I could make it work?
I have heard that the cotton wick needs to be thicker to burn olive oil effectively :)
Okay you didn't mention what you put in the title how does this cause cancer and why shouldn't I burn oil, video was more on this making a can you explain please
My preferred fuel is b100 biodiesel. It produces a brilliant flame, has a light and inoffensive vegetable oil smell, and is less viscous than olive oil (draws better). If you have b99 or b100 available in your area, give it a try.
Do you have to change the wick with biodiesel like in this video?
@@jacksemporiumofstuff You don't, and the wick will last a lot longer than using olive oil.
Better to weave the wire, or a smaller wire into the wick. That will heat the oil and allow it to wick better as it's not as thin as kerosene.
curious abt other cooking oils pnut mostly any thoughts TY ?
Any natural vegetable oils will be similar.
Your globe is cracked. You should never light a lamp with a cracked globe or fountain. As the heat will make the glass expand and as it does so it can actually make that cracked glass explode sending sharp glass across the room. You should ALWAYS replace a cracked globe/chimney as soon as you see a crack.
"Explode"? LOL
@@williepierce3933 Yes explode. flying burning hot shards of glass can be called a small explosion of glass fragments... not really something to LOL about if you get one in your eye
Yes. This was accidentally cracked on a night when camping with the wife. The crack has sentimental value. Thanks for watching and the caution.
gee, I just bought an old lamp on ebay. chimney is fine but there is hairline crack inside the lamp shade. its an old GWTW style. Should I be safe enough with the intact chimney and not worry about the outer shade? It is beautiful and is a perfect addition to my bedroom if the power goes out.......
@@bethelle9099 A crack in glass will get bigger overtime. It may take years, but I imagine the heating and cooling of using it will hasten the process. I am no expert, but there may be something you can put on it to seal the crack since it is not in the actual chimney.
Olive oil will only travel up a wick for about one inch. It will go out when the oil gets lower.
I have inherited several old glass oil lamps and was wondering if they can be turned into wiki torches?
Hello Elizabeth. Are you wanting to burn a bright torch like flame - or - a certain type of fuel to keep mosquitoes at bay? Let me know and I will take a look for you.
@@mattandsarahfish8866 I'm wanting to run mosquitoes off. Thank you.
My initial reaction is not to use such an oil that is meant to ward off mesquitoes in such a lamp. The reason being is that they tend to leave too much soot on the glass globes that would csuse the globes to overheat and crack, potentially cause a hazard. I'm actually allergic to citrenella, and as such we have experimented with adding lavendar oil with a carrier oil or unscented lotion to keep the mosquitoes away very effectively. Hope that helps. Thank you so much for your question. It is good to think outside the box. Happy trails.
PS: Tea tree oil works really well also. Dilute with a carrier oil as with the lavender...use a small amount on a small area of your skin and check for irritation waiting several minutes before applying to other areas. Have fun, stay safe. God bless and thanks again.
@@mattandsarahfish8866 Thank you so much may God bless you and yours.
Hello, can I burn paraffin oil in this type of lamp with a 3/4 inch cotton wick? Thank you in advance.
Yes, these lamps are made to burn paraffin oil or k1 kerosene.
Hi, How long will it burn in your oil lamp before it needs a refill.
24 hours or so.
Until it's empty.
Add fine copper wire to your wick / copper wire helps the stored olive oil warm and thin a little.
Maybe you can help a 63 year old woman lol. I have a whole bunch of thin copper wire and a Dietz lantern. Going to weave somehow, the wire through my wick. Great idea 😊 I have seen a lot about sand batteries and may end up making the most productive one ever because I have a copper bucket. It also has a cast iron handle like a pail. So being very literal, am I learning right that copper increases the temperature, in any way you can use it?
Extra Vergin oil or just the cheap stuff? Does either smell better?
Both work, save money and use cheapest Also can add drops of essential oil for any smell good to you like, orange, clove and lemon are nice for me
Olive oil can be eaten in a pinch also.
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Hello. Do you suppose layered cheesecloth might work for a wick? Just a stab in the dark, but I'd like to have a uniform system that can assure me that it'll work every time, especially in an emergency. Thank you, sir. Really liked your video. I need to do this.
Some jeans are a thick stiffer material - or even canvas.
Going to try this with cheap veggie oil. Olive oil is too expensive!!
Glass tilts out the back side easier than the front.
Lol, yup
Great video.. glad you explained this video @3:10
I once knew a guy who had Lamp oil. He had rope and bombs as well and he said It was mine if I had enough rupees. Sadly I only had a 20 so he told me to come back when I was richer.
Make sure you spend the extra and get the red oil.
*Hey My Friend, i Have Lamp Oil, You Want It?*
I have enough rubies
Thank you , that was helpful . now i know what to do ..
Awesome! I thought I was the only one who tried that!!!!! Only did it once, when I was running low on kerosene, definitely burned, but not as good as yours. I was using a regular wick though.., very thick and saturated with kerosene.. I meant to try olive oil by itself but kinda forgot about it until now
how about mixing the 2? have you ever tried this? if so, is it any cleaner than straight lamp oil??
cooking oil. johnson and j oil?
Olive oil is very sick. I usually buy copper wire so it through the wick in and out all the way through till I get to the bottom of the week the heat from the flame will heat up the wire, reducing the viscosity of your olive oil therefore soaking your wick and letting that burn good best of luck works great for me
What would cause my new, saturated wick to burn good f a minute then the wick burns down and out? Using olive oil.
Try using a close knitted material: muslin or cotton, layering for thickness and stitching together to feed well. The close knitted fibers well help with the wicking, but you will have to prime the wick first to get it to light. Once the oil warms up via the flame, the oil will continue to be wicked upwards, and burn clean with no harmful chemicals. Thanks for your interest.
The problem with olive oil is it can often be in efficient. Won't burn right and leads to higher wick damage. Some varieties won't even stay lit. Have to get a very thin olive oil for it to be decent.
Can you use it in paraffin heaters pls?Thanks
HEADS UP: There is a comment here from the lantern company saying that NO, it is not OK to use olive oil. I am bummed! Apparently, it is bot burning cleanly at all. The use of it is creating a build up of carbon monoxide. Other places on UA-cam you can find videos showing how the vast majority of carbon monoxide detectors do not work properly…
Yeah, olive oil has a notoriously low smoke point too. People think it sounds "natural" therefore it must be better, but it isn't.
I use vegetable oil with pure cotton
What about vegetable cooking oil ?
No cooking oils or olive oils should ever be used in Cotton Wick Lamps or Lanterns.
TY 4 intel sub'd today Fond ofDietz lanterns work well ;)
Vegetable oils I tried smell and emit black soot. Sunflower and rapeseed.
Peoples talking about olives oil, there are a problem, maybe not for the Florida, here nord canada is cold, olive oil when is cold is suck. Thing about that. Vegetables and olive oil frozen fast, not the paraffin.
Great way to burn your house down using olive oil. That's just dangerous in that type of later.
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Can you use the standard wick with the olive oil or do you need to use the t shirt wick
Power out from the storm? 😶
@@jcsaves9725 my question is will the olive oil work just a good with the standard original wick?
@@jastimbal60 I tried and it seems to burn. Not sure how efficient it is. The wick seems to be durning fast, but this is the first time I'm using the lantern. Is it supposed to be a slow burn?
@@jcsaves9725 ok thanks
great info, thanks!
I haven't tried it yet, but do you have to use the tee shirt wick instead of the store bought wick in order for the olive oil to burn more efficiently??
Yes. I would suggest using 100 percent cotton, but have fun using other cotton or linen mayerials. Some woven fabrics seem to wick up better than others. If I get the time and material, I plan on layering / sandwiching different materials ie: t-shirt on the outside with linen on the inside alternating layers in between. Let me know if you beat me to it. Thanks for watching. God bless. Watch yer top knot if in high winds.
Thanks for the tip. I didn't know this could have been a health hazard. Thanks for the info on how well olive oil burns and how bright it is. Keep up the good work. Also will this technique work with all lanterns.
Please dont use olive oil for lighting as your house will smell like a restaurant and kerosene is not proven to cause cancer, asthma and whatever else he said.
@@norwegiannationalist7678 I know but kerosene smells real bad man.
@@moistexistence3090 i know, But i kind of like the smell, but dont use t-shirt for the wick as that will definitely cause cancer and asthma, It says in the title that kerosene causes cancer but burning anything inside causes a risk of cancer its not the kerosenes fault
@@moistexistence3090 as long as you dont exeed safe levels of carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide you wont get cancer and stuff like that
@@moistexistence3090 i like the smell of kerosene if in small amounts but when i go to my cabin where there is no power we use the old style hurricane lantern, and the old style open flame ones, candles, and a indoor propane heater, and after 3 hours in there in gets quite smelly and if something will give you asthma it is sitting in there for a long time
Maybe you can braid the strips together. Or make rope from them
Does the type or grade of olive oil matter?
It does.
Never use supermarket olive oils they are mixed with other cheaper oils.
You have to use pure olive oil like what the Jewish people used to light the menorah.
It doesn't matter. You should never use Olive Oil or any cooking oil in cotton wick lamps or lanterns unless your lamp is of a very specific design and was built over 100 years ago. No cotton wick Lamp or Lantern built in the past 100 years will safely burn olive oil and you are risking Carbon Monoxide inhalation and asphyxiation as a result of following the advise on this video.
@@w.t.kirkmanlanternssaleste3971 I would never use olive oil in my beautiful lantern.
Unless you need it for heating I'd use LED lanterns for light and use the oil for cooking. For heating a well insulated micro house this could probably be good. I've used simpler olive oil wick lamps and the make a lot more heat than they do light.
Would old Restaurant fryer oil work?...I know some folks use as car fuel in OR...smells really good when they drive by...
Lamp oil rope bombs
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As long as you have enough rubies