I really like Xia Xia in my team she really makes up for me not having Evan; the reason why she works well for me is because I have Bam(at rainbow star) on my team. With Bam giving energy to the team made Xia Xia cast her heal skill more frequently.
I agree with your placements mostly, I just have to talk about Arkraptor, ppl are kinda ignoring him because fire is probably the most stacked element in the game, and everyone just goes hard for hwaryun, I did too, it's understandable, but if you read all of his skills, look at the multipliers of his skills and of his personal weapon it's extemely likely that he is super op after heavy investment. He has a self buff on the lvl of a support (crit rate and atk), also has another skill that buffs his atk by 160% max lvl, yes 160%, his atks pierce so they're almost always hitting multiple characters and he can take some dmg (80% dmg reduction) and most carry units have very meh effects on their personal weapons, but arkraptor simply buffs his atk even further, so basically everything about him reads, "hit harder", the only way he's not op is if his anmations are janky like wang but I doubt it, I'm heavily considering making a third account just to prove this hypothesis. Also I really like this game so playing more is not that bad. I haven't tested it so I can't say for certain yet, so I could be wrong but looking at numbers is kinda my job and he is the man in my opinion. As for Viole he is pretty good, probably the best under the three must have units (Evan, D.mascheny and D.zahard).
They really need to do something about dedicated tanks, I've gotten 7 copies of Karaka and he's still useless Extremely limited team diversity because tanks can't tank, not talking about Data Mascheny or Zahard
For the whole team at that. Hatz up there because the fan clubits nothing spectacular not best tank, stall tank, nor has highest dps. Has no support a stingy charade shines when maxed and cc overwhelms each opponent & knock 1 by 1. Hwa is debatable support plus dps. Ja is only placed S by most youtubers because of community, I would say most would have them lower. However, hardest hitting light, and good and decent support once invested in ee. Rak heals himself the entire game, give team heal, get evade and very tanky he could be argued up. Not saying ja should be SS but dont thank hatz ss. If ja bugs get fix he would definitely be up a tier, evan and zahad are on most teams for them to glich when hes on team is issue. We only a month in it could be fixed potentially
Ya ja as mentioned is bugged so that's stopping him being higher. Rak is unpredictable with his range vs melee. There are reasons for my choices. Hatz just does what he does best. He is like wolverine from xmen. Best at his job for destroying things
Karaka did a great job and carried my second team through 16 and 17. Basically bought time for Endorsi or Hwaryun to pop off. If Evankhell is S+ id definitely put him there as well. Would also consider putting Zahard into SS as hes your main tank along with Data.
Karaka's part of my main team and has been instrumental in me getting through those floors too. And I still don't even have him on S gear! Spiked once he got his EE built. Edit: Changed "he" to "karaka" to be clearer about whom I was speaking.
Ya just comparing zahard to mascheny and until they fix his dmg and the bug he ain't getting to ss. As Karaka. I can't win where I put him lol. He goes to S+ half the people say he is too high. When I go to S again the other half want him higher lol
Hey so it seems as tho a lot of players saying karaka shines with max exclusive equipment so try that. I may push him next and see if he is fact much better
All tier lists are of course biased, but I think this one is you especially wearing them on your sleeve. I'm on floor 18, ya'll just dead wrong about Karaka and need to read more people's EEs if you're up here because you should have multiple maxed out at this point and they matter. Edit: To try to be a little fair, I can see why people read his first 2 EEs and "nope" out of it because his first 2 are absolute dogshit, but the last two are absolute gold.
This is feedback from community and I'm getting back and forth feedback on karaka on every TL. As mentioned in previous comments. He we higher on last one and people complained he was too high and now people saying too low. I have had whales and f2p say he isn't that good and others like urself say he is. As f2p my focus is on other units cause I don't use him so I'm taking notes from community. So next one he may go back up and I'll test myself
@@PayneBlade Here's the problem with the game in general. You HAVE to focus. Whether you're whale or not, you have to focus on specific elements and units. Most people were told Evan and Hatz at the outset. So what did they focus on? Evan and Hatz, light units. Then they were told eye patch chick and it only makes sense that if you're going to focus eye patch chick to then pick up and slot in Xia Xia. It's ALOT of confirmation bias. A whole community of confirmation bias because the whole community is following what a few content creators said at the top and they have had 0 room to experiment - not that 95% of players would experiment even if they had room to do so and we know that's a fact. This is made clear on your green and blue rankings too. Yuri Ha is BUSTED and you have her in the bottom 50%. You have data masch over data zahard when they literally do the same thing equally well! This is just use bias. Which hey, you could argue all tier lists are to varying degrees, just think it's especially bad in this game's case due to how people are approaching it.
@lockekosta9014 data mascheny only has an edge on zahard due to dmg. Yes both are stall tanks but zahard just does less dmg so it's a bit of an edge to put her above. Ya I agree that many have bias but that's why I said I wanted to start a new account and play around with other unorthodox units
tbh I don't use her but I asked a few higher lvl Yuri users where they rate her and why and many said she is squishy compared to most tanks they use past 16. I would love to hear some counter arguments on that but it's her survivability people are complaining most about
Eeee i dont know if xia belongs to the ss tier she is very good but not a must have like u can go without her but u really camt with the other 4 of the same tier.Its just doesnt fit right with me
@@PayneBlade welp its your list so it is what it is but even without her ppl pushed up to 18 but again not without the other 4… i understand that the meta changes but idk i just dont feel like she is ss, first in s absolutely but ss meh
karaka is SS easily with EE 35+, survives longer than any other thank plus increase damage on revive, fears and taunts, damage reduction. decrease enemy defense, if you dont have karaka gear out with A+ or S gear dont even run him (S gear gives him 100+ evasion) plus if u dont have max raport, dont run him
He dont use Karaka, that why he dont understand how to use him. If we want head to head between tanker, Karaka ability and EE more more better than the others.
I have asked whales and f2p who do have him maxed and this is the communities perspective. U can go back to the last tl and see I had him in S+ and he had people arguing the opposite of you guys. Everyone has an argument about him so I have tested him maxed and of course he dominates in 16-18 stages but under developed ones don't do as well as zahard or mascheny or Evan. We can argue all units being maxed but this is an f2p TL and many will have some Exclusive maxed vs others.
@@Drago597 I am stage 18-24 completely f2p and pushing easily with karaka on my team always the last to die, yes we can all agree to place chars in tiers but this is a team synergistic idle game
@@PayneBlade I understand that but like I previously said, If you had been investing in hatz, bam , etc that means you had lil to no resources for karaka I'm just giving you my experience with karaka on my f2p account, Ive been religiously hunting/rerolling for dupes of karaka and evankhell from the start everytime I hit pity no regrets because he is really shinning
@gamerf2p843 I gotcha I'm also reaching out to other players for help on this TL (want it to be community based). Perhaps if you can show me some stuff on discord would love to see cause people are providing me ss and stuff to show proof. He is the hottest topic always on all the TLs like I mentioned. Would love to get the perfect spot for him but he is perhaps the most controversial unit atm
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I really like Xia Xia in my team she really makes up for me not having Evan; the reason why she works well for me is because I have Bam(at rainbow star) on my team. With Bam giving energy to the team made Xia Xia cast her heal skill more frequently.
Ya I love having her on my teams and she has done impeccably
Once in arena all teammates died and only XiaXia blue 1star remained. Enemy was full HP Evan 0star and she won
I agree with your placements mostly, I just have to talk about Arkraptor, ppl are kinda ignoring him because fire is probably the most stacked element in the game, and everyone just goes hard for hwaryun, I did too, it's understandable, but if you read all of his skills, look at the multipliers of his skills and of his personal weapon it's extemely likely that he is super op after heavy investment.
He has a self buff on the lvl of a support (crit rate and atk), also has another skill that buffs his atk by 160% max lvl, yes 160%, his atks pierce so they're almost always hitting multiple characters and he can take some dmg (80% dmg reduction) and most carry units have very meh effects on their personal weapons, but arkraptor simply buffs his atk even further, so basically everything about him reads, "hit harder", the only way he's not op is if his anmations are janky like wang but I doubt it, I'm heavily considering making a third account just to prove this hypothesis. Also I really like this game so playing more is not that bad.
I haven't tested it so I can't say for certain yet, so I could be wrong but looking at numbers is kinda my job and he is the man in my opinion.
As for Viole he is pretty good, probably the best under the three must have units (Evan, D.mascheny and D.zahard).
I'll have to test him out more or ask someone who has him maxed
Arkaraptor and Rachel are the best SSR dps units on the high floors according to the big whales. Not even Hatz and Hwaryun can keep up with them.
@Amateracu1991DFFOO ya this is for f2p up to 18. Whales be way higher haha
main endorsi here, I really love her gameplay but sometimes she can't carry alone so im trying to build Hatz and Hwa Ryun now
They really need to do something about dedicated tanks, I've gotten 7 copies of Karaka and he's still useless
Extremely limited team diversity because tanks can't tank, not talking about Data Mascheny or Zahard
Wang gets better with his EE higher. The swiftness boost makes his auto go crazy.
Ya I tested it does go faster but not SS
For the whole team at that. Hatz up there because the fan clubits nothing spectacular not best tank, stall tank, nor has highest dps. Has no support a stingy charade shines when maxed and cc overwhelms each opponent & knock 1 by 1. Hwa is debatable support plus dps. Ja is only placed S by most youtubers because of community, I would say most would have them lower. However, hardest hitting light, and good and decent support once invested in ee. Rak heals himself the entire game, give team heal, get evade and very tanky he could be argued up. Not saying ja should be SS but dont thank hatz ss. If ja bugs get fix he would definitely be up a tier, evan and zahad are on most teams for them to glich when hes on team is issue. We only a month in it could be fixed potentially
Ya ja as mentioned is bugged so that's stopping him being higher. Rak is unpredictable with his range vs melee. There are reasons for my choices. Hatz just does what he does best. He is like wolverine from xmen. Best at his job for destroying things
Isnt swiftness movement speed? 😂
The impressive thing with Xia Xia is how well she does even without full dupes or anything.
Karaka did a great job and carried my second team through 16 and 17. Basically bought time for Endorsi or Hwaryun to pop off. If Evankhell is S+ id definitely put him there as well. Would also consider putting Zahard into SS as hes your main tank along with Data.
Karaka's part of my main team and has been instrumental in me getting through those floors too. And I still don't even have him on S gear! Spiked once he got his EE built.
Edit: Changed "he" to "karaka" to be clearer about whom I was speaking.
Ya just comparing zahard to mascheny and until they fix his dmg and the bug he ain't getting to ss. As Karaka. I can't win where I put him lol. He goes to S+ half the people say he is too high. When I go to S again the other half want him higher lol
@lockekosta9014 karaka or zahard?
@@PayneBlade Karaka
@@lockekosta9014 ya realized after I read your other comment haha
I have evan but I have xia duped 7 times, I just feel she's putting more work in
From what I heard, that umbrella red guy’s dps is comparable to SSR+ units. Maybe test him out more?
Arkraptor? Will test more
Any chance you can make a tear list for a exclusive weapons?
absolutely working on it now
Hey man, really appreciate your videos and your insight.
Curious, you tried Watcher of Realms? Would love to hear your take on that game
Payne sama is top of my tier list!
3:16 definitely hate that bug and zahad +ja ult bug
Ya man it's so frustrating
I actually positioned Wangnan so that he will possibly die first. Just to get the atk bonus
I think xiaxia is top tier. Esp w the exclusive weapon. She tops off so fasttt 🥵 karaka = kaka
Hi payne, thanks for the video ! I had karaka and 3 dupes but I see that you put it in S, I have to stop playing it to take S+ or SS characters ?
Hey so it seems as tho a lot of players saying karaka shines with max exclusive equipment so try that. I may push him next and see if he is fact much better
Apparently Arkraptor is really good late game too
All tier lists are of course biased, but I think this one is you especially wearing them on your sleeve.
I'm on floor 18, ya'll just dead wrong about Karaka and need to read more people's EEs if you're up here because you should have multiple maxed out at this point and they matter.
Edit: To try to be a little fair, I can see why people read his first 2 EEs and "nope" out of it because his first 2 are absolute dogshit, but the last two are absolute gold.
This is feedback from community and I'm getting back and forth feedback on karaka on every TL. As mentioned in previous comments. He we higher on last one and people complained he was too high and now people saying too low. I have had whales and f2p say he isn't that good and others like urself say he is. As f2p my focus is on other units cause I don't use him so I'm taking notes from community. So next one he may go back up and I'll test myself
@@PayneBlade Here's the problem with the game in general. You HAVE to focus. Whether you're whale or not, you have to focus on specific elements and units.
Most people were told Evan and Hatz at the outset. So what did they focus on? Evan and Hatz, light units. Then they were told eye patch chick and it only makes sense that if you're going to focus eye patch chick to then pick up and slot in Xia Xia.
It's ALOT of confirmation bias. A whole community of confirmation bias because the whole community is following what a few content creators said at the top and they have had 0 room to experiment - not that 95% of players would experiment even if they had room to do so and we know that's a fact.
This is made clear on your green and blue rankings too. Yuri Ha is BUSTED and you have her in the bottom 50%. You have data masch over data zahard when they literally do the same thing equally well!
This is just use bias. Which hey, you could argue all tier lists are to varying degrees, just think it's especially bad in this game's case due to how people are approaching it.
@lockekosta9014 data mascheny only has an edge on zahard due to dmg. Yes both are stall tanks but zahard just does less dmg so it's a bit of an edge to put her above. Ya I agree that many have bias but that's why I said I wanted to start a new account and play around with other unorthodox units
what makes Yuri low A tier?
tbh I don't use her but I asked a few higher lvl Yuri users where they rate her and why and many said she is squishy compared to most tanks they use past 16. I would love to hear some counter arguments on that but it's her survivability people are complaining most about
Any active code pls
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Eeee i dont know if xia belongs to the ss tier she is very good but not a must have like u can go without her but u really camt with the other 4 of the same tier.Its just doesnt fit right with me
That's okay. As a 2nd team she is a must have imo. Remember this is up to 18 and running 2 teams she makes it way easier to progress
@@PayneBlade welp its your list so it is what it is but even without her ppl pushed up to 18 but again not without the other 4… i understand that the meta changes but idk i just dont feel like she is ss, first in s absolutely but ss meh
karaka is SS easily with EE 35+, survives longer than any other thank plus increase damage on revive, fears and taunts, damage reduction. decrease enemy defense, if you dont have karaka gear out with A+ or S gear dont even run him (S gear gives him 100+ evasion) plus if u dont have max raport, dont run him
He dont use Karaka, that why he dont understand how to use him. If we want head to head between tanker, Karaka ability and EE more more better than the others.
I have asked whales and f2p who do have him maxed and this is the communities perspective. U can go back to the last tl and see I had him in S+ and he had people arguing the opposite of you guys. Everyone has an argument about him so I have tested him maxed and of course he dominates in 16-18 stages but under developed ones don't do as well as zahard or mascheny or Evan. We can argue all units being maxed but this is an f2p TL and many will have some Exclusive maxed vs others.
@@Drago597 I am stage 18-24 completely f2p and pushing easily with karaka on my team always the last to die, yes we can all agree to place chars in tiers but this is a team synergistic idle game
@@PayneBlade I understand that but like I previously said, If you had been investing in hatz, bam , etc that means you had lil to no resources for karaka I'm just giving you my experience with karaka on my f2p account, Ive been religiously hunting/rerolling for dupes of karaka and evankhell from the start everytime I hit pity no regrets because he is really shinning
@gamerf2p843 I gotcha I'm also reaching out to other players for help on this TL (want it to be community based). Perhaps if you can show me some stuff on discord would love to see cause people are providing me ss and stuff to show proof. He is the hottest topic always on all the TLs like I mentioned. Would love to get the perfect spot for him but he is perhaps the most controversial unit atm