The Woodville Witches?
Вставка
- Опубліковано 30 бер 2023
- Today I want to look at a time when that accusation attached itself to a Queen of England and her mother.
I hope you enjoy this video and find it interesting!
Please subscribe and click the bell icon to be updated about new videos.
Also, if you want to get in touch, please comment down below or find me on social media:
Instagram: katrina.marchant
Twitter: @kat_marchant
Clubhouse: @kat_marchant
TikTok: @katrina_marchant
Email: readingthepastwithdrkat@gmail.com
Intro / Outro song: Silent Partner, "Greenery" [ • Greenery - Silent Part... ]
SFX from freesfx.co.uk/Default.aspx
Linked videos and playlists:
Women’s History Month Videos 2023:
Juana of Castile: • Myth or Evidence: Juan...
"Ugly Duchess": • "The Ugly Duchess" P...
Katherine Willoughby: • Katherine Willoughby: ...
Elizabeth Barton: • Elizabeth Barton: Holy...
Order of the Garter: • The Most Noble Order o...
Images (from Wikimedia Commons, unless otherwise stated):
Portrait of King Henry V by an unknown artist (late 16th or early 17th century). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
Mural showing Joan of Arc captured by the Burgundians at Compiègne by Jules-Eugène Lenepveu (c. 1886-1890). At the Panthéon, Paris.
Miniature of Pierre Cauchon presiding at Joan of Arc's trial by an unknown author (15th century). Held by the Bibliothèque nationale de France)
Joan of Arc by Vinzez Sozvr Zovzanza (15th-20th century). Held by the Archives nationales,France; AE-II-2490.
John, Duke of Bedford, praying before St George; from BL Add MS 18850, f. 256v (the "Bedford Hours"). Held and digitised by the British Library.
Manuscript illumination showing King Henry VI of England being crowned as King of France (1470-1490). Held by the Bibliothèque nationale de France, MS Français 83, fol. 205.
Screenshot from: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/c...
The marriage of Henry VI and Margaret of Anjou depicted in a miniature from an illustrated manuscript of Vigilles de Charles VII by Martial d'Auvergne (c.1484). Held by the Bibliothèque nationale de France, MS Français 5054, folio 126 verso.
Detail from the frontispiece of the illuminated manuscript Talbot Shrewsbury Book (between 1443 and 1445). Held by the British Library, Royal 15 E VI f2v.
Portrait of King Edward IV by an unknown English artist (c.1540). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
Edward IV meets his wife-to-be, Elizabeth Grey from James William Edmund Doyle, "Edward IV" in A Chronicle of England: B.C. 55 - A.D. 1485, London: Longman, Green, Longman, Roberts & Green (1864) pp. p. 412 Retrieved on 12 November 2010.
The marriage of Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville. Illuminated miniature from Vol 6 of the Anciennes chroniques d'Angleterre by Jean de Wavrin (15th century). Held by the Bibliothèque nationale de France, MS Français 85.
Portrait of Elizabeth Woodville by an unknown artist (between c.1550 and c.1600). Held by the Royal Collection
Richard Neville, 16th Earl of Warwick, submits to the queen of their Lancastrian enemies, Margaret of Anjou from from James William Edmund Doyle, "Edward IV" in A Chronicle of England: B.C. 55 - A.D. 1485, London: Longman, Green, Longman, Roberts & Green (1864) pp. p. 417 Retrieved on 12 November 2010.
Illustration of the Battle of Barnet (14 April 1471) from the Ghent manuscript, a late 15th-century document (source: Ghent University library, MS236).
Illustration of the Battle of Tewkesbury from the Ghent manuscript, a late 15th-century document (source: Ghent University library, MS236).
Photograph of the Wakefield Tower, Tower of London taken by “Richard Nevell” (2014)
Henry VI of England in an illumination (British Library, Royal 15 E VI f. 405).
Portrait of King Richard III by an unknown artist (late 16th century). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
Quoted texts:
Lucia Diaz Pascual, ODNB entry for Jacquetta of Luxembourg.
Gemma Hollman, Royal Witches: From Joan of Navarre to Elizabeth Woodville
Also consulted, were:
Other relevant entries from The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography Online.
#WomensHistoryMonth #Medieval #ReadingThePast - Розваги
I put the claims of witchcraft against the Woodville women on a par with the claim that Edward IV was fathered by an archer: no supporting evidence and a convenient slur.
The usual claim against females with a certain amount of power
I agree! And it’s awful what they did to the little princes in the tower. So sad and awful!
As for modern historical fiction, witchcraft makes for thrilling and salacious fictiin
Always amazes how these men, so sure of their own majesty, were so afraid of the 'power' of women.
There has to be a serious ego frailty of men to use witchcraft to bring down a beautiful woman with an equally beautiful mind. The scism between the sexes throughout Western history has been and will continue to be a worthy and difficult pursuit. We must, all of us, see one another as, very simply and extraordinarily courageously, human.
@@lucyosborne9239 Beautifully said! I think that many men believe a woman CAN’T be powerful without some kind of artificial, or supernatural “help”!
Women were, are and always will be way more powerful than men.
Men just didn't understand why "Willie" got all excited and out of their conscious control. It must be "Magic" !
They still are 😉
The idea that Elizabeth was simply that enchanting, or Jacquetta merely a talented politician, was more than the men of the era could bear. It was easier, and more profitable to cast them as witches. It certainly benefitted Warwick and later Richard III in achieving their aims.
I feel Phillipa Gregory is the nemesis of most of the history UA-camrs I follow. 🤣
Ain’t that the truth!!!
Yes. She doesn't deserve it either. Men are capable of telling some history-altering whoppers of their own, ie: the current Christian Church dogma. It's largely based on the letters of Paul, who was never Jesus's disciple, nor had he ever met the man. Talk about propaganda! Paul writes for the glory of Paul. Christos means oil in Greek. The only oiling Jesus got was from Mary, who washed and used pricey oil on his feet, like any loving wife.
Ditch the dogma, but keep the faith. ❤
@@ruthanneseven 👍😀
@@ruthanneseven she deserves it for continuing to slander and malign women, pushing narratives that Joquetta was a witch, Elizabeth of York was the mistress of Richard III, Anne Boleyn slept with her brother, Jane Boleyn being a jealous traitor, and other nonsense. Also Mary wasn’t Jesus’ wife, that was made up by the Mormons.
@@ruthanneseven Paul never claimed to have met Jesus in life. He quite famously met Jesus after Jesus already ascended to Heaven, reappearing in a bolt of divine light that blinded Paul.
Those Woodville women!!!! It’s an endlessly fascinating subject!
The witchcraft accusations were a good snapshot at politics, misogyny and propaganda coming together in attempts to sweep Jacquetta and Elizabeth off the board and delegitimize Elizabeth’s standing. Warwick and Richie 3 were chumps for it.
I've always really enjoyed and been fascinated by the Woodville women. Especially by Henry VIII's mother, being the last of the York branch of the Plantagenet family. To have experienced what she did, and then to herself be married (apparently happily) to the conquering king must have taken incredible fortitude and strength of character.
She was not the last. The Poles were also in the York branch. That would lead to problems for all the Tudors: more conspiracies, more executions.
@@Rosedawn321 Exactly! Margaret was the daughter of the duke of Clarence...brother to the York King, Edward IV. So, she was a York. And the cousin of Elizabeth of York. Margaret outlived Elizabeth by many years. She was actively involved in supporting the house of York throughout her life. In charge of Katherine of Aragon's household, Margaret supported Katherine after Henry VIII cast her aside.
@@DL-od4su Only to be eventually executed for treason herself, quite horribly so. Margaret and Edward, Earl of Warwick, her little brother, have such tragic stories. They, and their cousins by their uncle, Edward IV, had such tragic outcomes far too often. Margaret had a full life, at least.
Descendents of that line are alive and well in Australia!
Possibly more than we think, though I agree being married to a skunk like Henry would test anyone's character. But growing evidence indicates -- though hardcore Henry fans will protest -- that her brothers were not murdered at all and after their uncle's death became the focus of two badly failed tries to put one or the other on the throne, a return to it in young Edward's case. The mounting evidence is intriguing and increasingly plausible, but there is a lot more research and investigation to be done. If true, it suggests that young Elizabeth had to keep from her husband the fact that her brothers lived, and, perhaps, once that cat was out of the bag, stand up against him to try to save their lives from execution. Stay tuned...
Ah yes, successful women must be witches. Great video!
Please hit the thumbs up for Dr Kat!
Thank you for discussing two of my favorite historical women. It is so ridiculous, from my modern perspective, that it couldn't simply be love, lust or simple attraction. Nope, had to be witchcraft! 😂
Very typical.
People don’t like to be reminded they were thinking with their reproductive organs rather than their frontal cortex.
Men didn't understand how "Willie" worked - automatically ! !
Even in these so-called modern times of "equality" women are STILL discriminated against.When I undertook my 1st degree,aged only 17,there were only two of usAcc young women in the year,both highly intelligent,attractive and usually top of the class.The harassment,bullying and discrimination we both suffered became too much for my fellow(female)student and she dropped out.I wasn't going to let them beat me though,I've dealt with abuse all my life.Went on to graduate with honours top of the class!!(Accountancy,what was I thinking?!-after working whilst raising a family I finally saw the light and returned to Uni in Australia and Britain to follow my passion-British History.Occassionally I encounter some ratbag who seems to feel his right to interrupt my lectures or tutorials,but,as I am blessed to have so many students with a genuine desire for knowledge,he(ALWAYS HE) will be told to shut up by most of the others.GIRL POWER!!Best wishes from icy Australia😊
@@--enyo-- 😅
Thank you for covering Jacquetta! Her life has always fascinated me!!
Well done Dr Kat for exceptional content! While the connections of Jacquetta of Luxembourg have often been mentioned in docos etc, I've never heard them point out how close her marriage to Bedford brought her to potentially becoming Queen Consort herself. Your mentioning of her other connections, equally outstanding. Thank you so much for taking up such an interesting topic and covering it so comprehensively. If I could give you two thumbs up, I would!
Ahhh the old stand by of every man looking at a woman 'in his way'. 🙄 I believe the modern version is 'lock her up'. 😢
Nailed it!!!!
First of all, the new camera produces great video!! Really lovely. As far as the subject of the video, I think people like a spicy story just as much now as they did then, so of course it's going to wind up in modern fiction! As for why the original story ever started, it just seems so cynical as an attempt to discredit Elizabeth and her family, and eliminate the power of her faction. Warwick maybe thought that he couldn't attack Elizabeth directly without incurring the wrath of Edward IV (because he loved her) so the best way was to attack Jacquetta. That would cast doubt upon Elizabeth and all her siblings, too.
Love Phillipa Gregory her books are very interesting, like Lady of the Rivers its about this period, it covers the witchcraft of the women of York
As coronation is coming closer, so could you please make a video about the Grand Delhi Darbar.. it was the only time when a British monarch was crowned outside Europe and it was one of most lavish coronation ever , they even had a new set of crown made for it .......
Yeah please everyone would love that
😮
Yes, yes!! I'd love to learn more about this!
@@janghsingh9576 Oh please.
@@OdeInWessex Nothin' wrong with someone respectfully expressing their opinion.
Delicious! Thank you for mentioning the disturbing fictional history being touted by Author P. Gregory (who is no doubt laughing all the way to the bank...). Happily, well-researched history, such as yours on UA-cam, sets straight the majority of those interested. Thank you.
We are descended from Jacquetta of Luxembourg through our Stanley line - yes, that one - via her daughter Jacquetta Woodville, Elizabeth Woodville’s sister. The younger Jacquetta’s daughter Joan Le Strange married George Stanley, and at least two of our family lines trace back to their descendants (and others to the Stanleys themselves). I am grateful for your having taken up the story of the Woodvilles, as they have always seemed to me to be strong, intelligent, resourceful, capable women, who managed despite great odds to survive that turbulent, terrifying time. Thank you.
Dr Kat, just wanted to congratulate you on your new camera. It looks outstanding. Thanks for covering Elizabeth Woodville. I'd love to see her younger sister who married as a child to the Duke of Buckingham covered as well.
Ah yes, Jacquetta and the Wheel of Fortune. Ms Gregory certainly played up that aspect in her novels, which I admit to being a fan. However, historical fiction isn’t historical fact. 😉 It seems that throughout history, powerful women have been accused of witchcraft by the men who felt threatened by them. A penny for your thoughts, Dr. Kat.
I love the way historical facts can be woven into a fascinating fictional novel. I find that I can remember the family connections easier.
I'm a big fan of Gregory's books. She's astute in her imagination with a very good understanding of what the Occult consisted of at that time. Her knowledgeability of simplistic sympathetic magick is creative, plausable and follows humanity's ancient practices still used today.
Science is accidentally proving the reality of magick today, they just don't realize it. Very comical, imo.
England is still stuck in their collective views, imo, as Markle has often been accused of using Witchcraft to bag Henry!
Even JK Rowlings had more knowledge regarding love spells! I find it all very funny!😂
Yes. There really was an Alchemist named Nicholas Flamel! No, he didn't succeed in his work, but this is what helps make great story telling!
I've always really enjoyed Philippa Gregory's books, but understand them for what they are, a bit of history with a flare of fiction. Makes for interesting reads, but I agree when others say history on its own can be very compelling, there isn't always a need for the fictional touches lol.
Surely a Real Witch could and would protect her beloved blood relatives, especially children! Not only protect her own but attack and horribly punish anyone attempting to do them harm. People have no common sense!
The video where you talked about the known dangers of a boy king vs the new prospect of a sovereign queen got me thinking about Richard III and his nephews. Richard's entire life had been shaped by civil war-- he'd been held prisoner at one point along with his mother and siblings, lost his father and an elder brother when he was 8, and was an active participant on the battlefield by age 15. He also seems to have been a history nerd judging by the books he owned. He'd likely have had a pretty good idea of the risks of having an underage and/or ineffective monarch. I wonder if he looked at his young nephews and the general controversy over the Woodvilles, and feared another power struggle that could plunge the country right back into chaos. Declaring the boys illegitimate could allow Richard to usurp the throne without hurting them.
Interesting theory, though it was unlikely those boys would have seen adulthood once Edward V & brother were imprisoned.
Agreed, but I can see Richard realizing it was necessary and still hoping to avoid it. It seems very unlikely that his sister-in-law would have felt the same way.
Lovely new camera! It looks cinematic ☺️
I enjoyed this segment. The KINGS'S GREY MARE is the historical fiction book that started me on my love of English History.
Me also! Found it a the library when I was 14.
Who wrote it I should probably check it out.
@@AlbuquerqueAnnie Rosemary Hawley Jarman is the author.
I loved that book! I think I still have a copy. The author wrote Speak No Treason. Also enjoyable. If anyone else thinking of reading, it does not show the Woodville women in a favorable way which personally didn’t bother me 😉
@@nancypeters1875 Thanks!
I recently found out that Elizabeth Woodville is a however many great Grandmother of mine, through her son Thomas Grey (apparently lots of people are related to her) - was so excited to find that out. Also related to Edward IV’s bastard son Arthur Plantagenet lol.
Dr. Kat, Love all your videos! Was watching Olivier's film performance of Richard III the other night, and had an idea for a new video you might consider. Was fascinated by Shakespeare's treatment of Jane Shore, "Mistress Shaw" in the play. Her name is mentioned at least three times in rapid succession after Hastings is arrested. She's got to be more than just another royal mistress. She seems to be an enchanting, if not bewitching character, at least in the Olivier film version of the play. I understand that she apparently used her influence, at least with Edward IV, to reconcile others to the king rather than for personal gain. That sounds too good to be true, but I thought she'd make an excellent topic for a video. Regards, Chuck from Virginia, USA.
The only witchery I see is Richard’s 🧙🏻♂️. If the women really were witches, they would have smote him would they not? That is if you believe in witchcraft of course.
This is something that’s always amazed me. If said witch had these powers as they were accused couldn’t they quell any gossip?
@@TIFFANYDlASIndeed! That WOULD be the case if the ACTUALLY WICKED RICHARD OF GLOUCESTER had functioned in a logical and systematic fashion Rather, he was like having a man-size explosive around...apt to go "BOOM!" at any moment ....
And for no apparent reason.
There’s a phrase I’ve heard mentioned a lot recently in relation to the war in Ukraine called the Firehose of Falsehoods. Basically the idea is to barrage your intended target with as many lies and innuendos as possible, no matter how ridiculous, in order to drown out dissent and browbeat people into swallowing at least some of the bullshit. I think Richard’s strategy for “legitimizing” his reign was essentially a medieval version of this. The sheer amount of rumors he and his followers were circulating, from the witchcraft allegations to an alleged secret marriage Edward had before his secret marriage to Elizabeth all the way to calling his own mother a whore, Richard was spitting out fake news like nobody’s business!
You need to understand that this was firmly believed. Suspend your disbelief. For example, in Haiti, people are still very afraid of witch doctors, babies are sacrificed and eaten, etc. You don't believe that either, eh? If you were in Haiti, you would probably learn to fear witches. Suspend your disbelief, and then imagine a world where the supernatural is taken for granted as being real.
"smitten" ? perhaps ?....and I entirely agree !
I watched The White Queen and White Princess more times than I care to admit. It’s because of my viewership that I love your channel. That being said, your equipment updates are fantastic. Love it all!
Excellent presentation, as always. I think Philippa Gregory does great harm to actual history. However, one of her novels got me interested in the War of the Roses. So that’s a wash.
Philippa Gregory is a fictional writer, and she has probably added more than she has detracted. She brings history to life with her storytelling. Jacquetta and her daughter, Elizabeth who was a pious lady, were probably not above superstitious practices common at the time. But you are right a fascinating period of history, that would have been dominated by the male characters if it were not for Philippa.
I feel like Gregory tempts us to investigate further.
The White Queen was more accurate than I expected when I looked up the history afterwards.
It was immediately noticeable on better visuals and clearer audio. Well done!
The photography is SO much better! Really enjoying the upgrade.
As always Kat, a stellar discussion and the new equipment is making things, and you, look fabulous. I have learned that if a historical figure has been accused of witchcraft, then they're probably the ones I would want to talk to most. It is always the way against powerful women, is it not?
Divorce is never the way out, My wife and I have been having issues before I sort out help from a spiritual adviser,i wasnt going to let my marriage of 18years crash
@@DailamiPuang well not the orthodox way but i was referred by a friend to a spiritual adviser and healer
@@DailamiPuang her name is SHELLY RENEE WHITE,and she is a great spiritual adviser as well as caster
you can look her name up online and you will find all you need.
I am a direct descendant of Mary Woodville the countess of Pembroke the sister of Elizabeth Woodville and the daughter of Jaquetta of Luxembourg. So I find this video absolutely fascinating 😍👀
Love Dr Kat, also love Dr Elena Jaegar on medieval attitudes towards women - it was bad to say the least and came directly from the Church.
Loved this as I'm so interested in this period and particularly the lives of the women. I thoroughly enjoyed the dramatisation of 'The White Queen ' and it certainly went for the witchcraft angle which made for a good story. It would seem quite easy to use the idea of witchcraft to attack your enemies when things aren't going your way. Interesting times!
The White Queen did the best she could in such a situation and when all seemed lost she hatched a deal with the Red Queen and helped bring a new dynasty to life.
I always thought the Red Queen was Margaret of Anjou. And the White Queen certainly didn't strike a deal with her.
@@wcfheadshots240 I meant Henry VII's mother.
@@danielsantiagourtado3430 Margaret Beaufort.
You have the most wonderful voice for narrating videos! Well done 👍🏼
Finally the Woodvilles. I'm so happy! I also have a massive historical crush on Edward IV, an underrated king. So I'm stoked to see this video come up! Thanks for all that you do dr. Kat.
Thank u, Dr Kat. I love yr channel. This period of history fascinates me.
Love the new look 🎶😎🎶
New equipment!!!! So fun!
It's pretty ironic that Elizabeth Woodville grandson, Henry VIII, was afraid of witches.
Also her granddaughter Margaret Tudor’s descendant, James I of England wrote a book endorsing witch hunting.
On his deathbed, Henry VIII was heard to exclaim, “Anne, you witch! Get away from me!” Perhaps he thought (hallucinated) that she had come to take him to hell.
@@vetsai8199 Out of curiosity who was that reported by? (Love to think of her dragging him to hell and leaving him there)
@@RogieVixen I heard it in a humanities lecture back in college, but it was also in the accompanying textbook. He was delirious with pain and fever at the time, which is why I assumed he was hallucinating.
Im curious, what do we know about Henry fearing witches?
These are two of my most favorite women of the period. Thank you again for another interesting narrative. I so throughly enjoy all you do. Please keep up the excellent work. It’s most appreciated 😊.
Everyone in the comments is so eloquent and I’m here like aaayyyyyy banging new camera babes x
I love that you cover the strong women that helped build the royal families and in turn, the kingdom. I also enjoyed that ‘The White Queen’ touched on the witch aspect of Jaquetta & Elizabeth as well as the love story between Elizabeth & Edward.
Your new camera looks awesome…almost too awesome…Dr Kat is clearly practicing WITCHCRAFT!
Wonderful video, as always. Thank you so much! It's so confusing for me the War of the Roses because of the names of the protagonists! I admire you!
Omg yay! Thank you! I LOVE these women! Philippa Gregory's books on Jacquetta and Elizabeth are seriously such fun and beautiful depictions in my opinion. 😍
i agree! I thought those two books were really interesting- the way the family was so proud of their connection to the river goddess and all the powers she supposedly gave them :)
@@revaconescu6120 yeeess and folks back then actually believed family lore like that at least according to a historian I was listening to awhile ago. Either way I love how she weaves the magick into the real history. And magick was and has always been the tool or weapon of those with no other power or means. Ugh I just adore it.
@@abookishwitch5118 yep! people without power- especially women- would be accused of witchcraft/black magic and people in power- usually men- would be called talented sorcerers or alchemists
Thank you for being one of the few UA-camrs that understand that you will not, in fact, “be seeing me” in your next video. But you will be speaking to me. THANK YOU!
This camera quality is stunning!!! Never had complaints before, but this is a serious upgrade. It's like when you wear the same spectacles for a stretch and then get a new prescription!
From what I've read and researched re Edward, he had a fair hand in the politics of marrying Elizabeth Woodville/Grey. It's all very tangled around this time. Fascinated by it all. I just finished costuming Richard III so I got back into the research from curiosity more than help with the play (as you know it's so skewed and completely condensed with the timeline, but touches on some events). I am more and more intrigued with all the twisty turny plotlines of the War of the Roses era. Thanks for making this video Dr Kat.
I just came to your channel to see if you had something on her mother! So excited for this! ❤
This is absolutely one of my favorite topics from the entire era. Such fascinating women on their own. Thank you Dr Kat.
Witchcraft was a common claim against one's political enemies across much of history, and fiction only embraces it because the salacious sells books, which is why we love classical writers like Suetonious because even if a lot of his salacious material might not be true and is gossipy it is certainly fun and made fictional works like I Claudius a fun read.
Thanks for the new video Dr Kat! I appreciate your knowledge and I find your voice engaging and easy to listen to.
I love any woman who has been accused of witchcraft. It was the defacto response to a woman who went against the grain; and, I respect them for breaking their external expectations.
Congratulations on the new equipment, how exciting! i just got here and haven't watched more than a minute...but it's very dark, will it lighten up? Also we cant see your books any longer, I love browsing your books, but you look fantastic! 😃
New Camera is nice, But I do miss being able to let my eyes wander on the book titles in the back ground. I love looking at video people's book titles. I have often used those as recommendations, or additions to what I have.
I was waiting for this since watching the mini series the white queen. Thanks. Love your work. Your videos are easy to watch and understandable for someone not knowledgeable.
I love that series🥰
I'll be honest, there are so many people making history UA-cam videos. But SO FEW are both scholars AND lovely to hear speak. Thank you for being both. An oasis amongst some disappointing channels.
The picture quality is beautiful. Camera was a good investment
Excellent! 🌞
Great storytelling, and fascinating women, whose influence scared some people so much that they had to make up " proof" of witchcraft. In the end, the Woodville wom n were vinticated but at a very high price...the terrible loss of two young princes. Elizabeth Woodville must have been devastated, any mother would be heartbroken for the rest of her life.
On a different note, the new equipment seems to work 😊
Thanks so much, boy I wouldn't have wanted to live back then! Living in
NZ🇳🇿 I didn't catch you live but enjoyed the replay 🌸
Good morning from Texas, Dr. Kat!
Video looks awesome!! Thank you for all your hard work I love this channel
Thank you for the lovely vid! I am fascinated by the Cousin's War period of English history and love the Woodville women. Jacquetta especially always seemed fascinating to me. What stories she could tell, my goodness!
I only became familiar with her after reading Philippa Gregory's novel, Lady of the Rivers, so I'm especially happy that you touched on the tantalizing speculations/possibility that Jacquetta of Luxembourg may have been in a position to meet Joan of Arc. Even without that - or the fanciful ideas of a lineage tied to the water goddess Melusina/witchcraft/etc - she strikes me as a woman right in the heart of fascinating, dangerous times and fascinating, dangerous people.
Love this story! But I am always SO COLD when I hear about medieval England!!
I believe it was because Elizabeth was older and would not be manipulated into the power games of the court and she had direct influence over her husband. Great video!
Thank you for this very interesting video. This is my favourite period of English history. There are so many fascinating and strong women who really influenced the way England was ruled at that time. More, please!
Oh my, Dr. Kat...so many things went through my mind watching this video. The old adage, "The more things change, the more things stay the same." being one of them. And the quote, "Show me your witches and I'll show you how you feel about women," by Pam Grossman in her book, "Waking the Witch: Reflections on Women, Magic and Power". A must read. The other thing that came to mind...I will keep to myself as it may be too divisive. Congratulations on the success of your channel! I truly enjoy your videos and appreciate all the work you put into making them so fascinating to watch. Thank you!! 💖💖
I love your channel and the history you provide. Thanks.
The new equipment looks great! I immediately noticed to change.
👏👏👏👏💯 looks wonderful!
PS Cameras and lighting are spot on!
Love your channel Dr. Kat! Very thought provoking. Look forward to all your future content. ✌️
The reason why the tales of Woodville witchcraft continue to be retold in historical fiction is just because it makes Jacquetta and Elizabeth more interesting characters and gives them more agency, rather than being women who just traded on their beauty and family connections. In fact, most modern historical fiction can’t admit that women in the past were condemned to being passive pawns of their male relatives and so rewrite them to turn them into 21st century women who just happen to be living in the Middle Ages.
Witchcraft, as people thought of it back then, isn't a real thing, and so I don't believe any of these women were actually practicing witchcraft. However, accusing someone of witchcraft was an excellent strategy for eliminating your enemies or those whose property you coveted. Glad he didn't get away with it. I like the Woodville saga; it's got a little taste of everything.
I think it would have been difficult to defend oneself against the accusation of witchcraft.
@@martyal Oh definitely! Which is why it was such a great strategy.
Have watched The White Queen....on tv series....so this is very informative...Phillapa is a great author and gives us a great insight to all this...
Amazing video as always. I learn so much from you. Thank you so so much ❤❤
I love your videos! I've read Philippa Gregory's, 'The White Queen' and it's so insightful to undo fact from fiction.
Thank you so very much for all your time and hard work you put into your videos, the new equipment has made an incredible difference, ALWAYS look forward to the next one. Big Fan ❤ from New Zealand 🇳🇿❤️🇬🇧😘🙏🏼🌹
Thank you. I admire these strong and powerful women.
Hi Dr Kat, I find your videos extremely interesting. Thank you.😊
I am a huge fan of these two women, thank you for covering them. 💜😊
Phillipa Gregory got me interested in the whole Saga of English Royakty,her books "FICTION" you say,do have many facts, of course the stories are all fleshed out. I am forever grateful to Phillipa for bringing such joy of learning to everyman. Here I am watching you,because of my love of History that Phillipa garnished. Opened up a whole new world. Keep up your good work ❤
I enjoyed the video and love your new video equipment. It looked terrific!
Thank you for talking about my fourteenth, fifteenth and sixteenth great-grandmothers! I don't believe any of them ever practiced witchcraft. That accusation has often been used to silence women in power, when there were no legitimate claims.
I’m not surprised that this gets played up in fictional retellings, because it would be such a cool plot point… but in real life I’m sure it was just the easiest way to discredit Richard III’s rivals
new stuff looks and sounds good
Sounding great and looking fabulous ❤
Thank you so much for these videos. Elizabeth Woodville is my 16th Great Grandmother.
I love the way she says thus it's so fitting x
Powerful women have always been scary, and thus the fearful ones hurl accusations.
Actress Rose Leslie, looks a lot like Elizabeth in that portrait!
Thanks for this discussion. Always learn something new from you. Love the new camera :-)
You have such a nice voice to listen to. I am really enjoying this story.
Ooo. The channel looks FANCY today! You spoil us. Thank you for doing so.🤗
Thank you for your sharing and the upgrade on the technical 😀 side. Excellent 🎉work...
Awesome to hear you talking about this. I had just started looking for videos about this subject last night. Thank you very much. God Bless😀
The new camera is working beautifully though I used to rather enjoy reading your book titles and snooping at your shelf chachkees while viewing your videos. Another amazing presentation!
This is a wonderful video. I enjoy listening to history documentary style videos while working in my garden here in Tampa, Florida, USA. Keep up the excellent content!
Excellent talk as usual. Love the new look!
Incredibly interesting and informative segment - loved it - thank you!