In the history of the NHL 3 guys have had 100 assists, Gretzky multiple times, Orr once, and Lemieux once. Way more 70 goal scorers and multiple times. The fact that 100 assists is rare and achieved by only 3 players indicates it is a harder achievement.
@BobsUruncle-dl7cs I live in Raincouver…Hughes is their MVP. Not sure what game you’re watching & Miller has a more complete game. Leon Draisaitl’s a former single season, triple trophy winner, has more facets to his game than Mathews…much like Jari Kurri had, while everyone was watching Gretzky. He typically plays 2nd fiddle in the Connor conversation, but people like myself, understand the difference. Leon could win the Richard if he wanted, but he’s more about the team, a superior playmaker, who can play all forward positions.
@BobsUruncle-dl7cs 👏 You’re one of the few people who have said the same thing regarding Connor & Leon’s upcoming contract situation. Leon’s better value/bang for the buck; more versatile, bigger & rugged, (a nasty side when required), a superior faceoff man, better one-timer. Perhaps the superior hockey mind, too…he’s very sneaky, likes to use different speeds to his game. Watch him back-check, especially when he turns over or looses the puck…he can steal pucks at will. His hand-eye puck coordination is other worldly, including his backhand pass! He’s better built for post season hockey…he was one point behind Connor in playoff scoring, virtually playing on one leg! Everyone knew his shooting was totally compromised due to his injury, yet he finished 2nd in playoff scoring, one back of McDavid. I once had a season ticket during the ‘80’s Oiler Dynasty. Was at the game on May 19, 1984, when we dethroned the great, NY Islanders! Watched Pocklington prematurely dismantled the greatest team in NHL history. Gretzky was traded! Sorry, McDavid doesn’t compare…been there, done that. Let’s get it right this time! Unfortunately, Katz has a gun to Holland’s head, needs to deliver a Cup, ASAP. Especially with BOTH contracts expiring in succession. He’s played his hand already; signs Connor’s former, juniors linemate, coach & agent, A L L to Oiler contracts. Sure, we could really set up Edmonton’s hockey future with a blockbuster trade…most people don’t have the foresight or vision, caught up in today’s melodrama.
@BobsUruncle-dl7cs Looks like you’re the only one doing the whining. It doesn’t matter where the Leafs finish, they get all of the attention. Thanks for supporting Toronto Sports Network(TSN) and Leafsnet.
@HandShakeLineRespect the overdrive show is by far the best sports talk show going. As an Oilers fan I don't mind hearing the talk about the Leafs more I get it. See if Leafs can make it put of the first round this year
Both are amazing, can we leave it there. McDavid is the best player. Mathews will probably go down as one of the best goal scorers. Mathews still need to prove himself in playoffs.
The 100 assists are almost 50% more points than 70 goals. So the goals don’t come close in terms of value. The Oilers had more team success after Gretzky scored less goals and more points for his team.😀 Matthews has room for improvement by focusing on maximizing points thru more assists team success and less on goal scoring records - goal scoring records lead to Constant Spring golf rather than playoff runs.
If Mathews doesn't score, who does? That's the issue with him passing more. 99 had some absolutely stacked teams. Mathews looks left and right, he sees Mitchy and Knies. That's why he shoots.
@@people3865 Gretzky was a far superior talent than Matthews. He created time and space - to make the players around him better. Gretzky and Oilers fans never complained about the talent of the many players around him because Gretzky made his line mates look so good - he worked to create the 50% more scoring opportunities for any line mates Gretzky had. Often an enforcer could play with Gretzky & and that Enforcer could get 30 to 40 goals with Gretzky. Not so with Brett Hull and Matthews - they are just one dimensional snipers. There is nothing wrong with snipers - it just is that they are not as valuable as Gretzky and Mario the great scoring leaders. McDavid is progressing by increasing his assists this year. Matthews’s coaching doesn’t look smart enough for team successes like playoff runs & Leaf Executives look ok if Matthews settles for getting 65 to 70 goals while not producing a lot of assists - thus no playoff runs. So far - Oilers strategy with McDavid are superior over Matthews. Think - if Matthews could pass & set up goals better - then Leafs could during playoffs have bigger stronger wingers with Matthews - the ones they need against Bruins and Florida in the playoffs? But the Leafs don’t. Leafs strategy only works ok in the regular season - as Marner (too soft for playoff hockey) drops off 27% in the playoffs and Matthews has zero playoff elimination game winning goals.😀
Depends on the situation. McD 100 assists with Draisitl and Hyman maybe not as impressive as Matthews 70, but if Sid got 100 assists, more impressive than Matthews 70.
Hot take. If secondary assists are so insignificant, why have it? If we have it, what's the argument for not having a third assist ? Just have goal and 1 assist.
My take on assists is that sometimes it is the 3rd assist the play or the guy in front of the net...😂 assists are meaningless its goals that matter😂 nah... whos the mvp. ❤ Mcdavid is the best hockey player in the world.
Hypothetically, getting 100 assists with no star caliber player teammates is way harder than getting 70 goals in the same circumstances. You might think that if you got star caliber teammates the scenario is reversed, but objectively 5 modern time player have reached over 60 goals while only Joe Thornton had over 90 passes ... twice. Crazy to think that McDavid was close to doing both at the same time in 2022-2023 at 64 goals and 89 assists (15th best point totals in a season in history).
Here, let me help you. What matters is winning a championship. The Canadian way is to go for points because you can't win the Cup. And yes, I am Canadian.
McDavid contract OVER no Stanley Cup calling it on this day March 7/2024...I actually called the day he pulled over the Oilers jersey 2 years left to go
If any player cares about their own stats..it tells me that player will never win the cup!! Not a fkn chance. The team goal is what fkn matters. That's why the leafs are Charmin. They will never win a cup. Never!
70 goals and it’s not even close. Assists are garbage points that were only added in so little brothers could say they helped. They give 2 out on every goal and you can score one from the bench.
If Marner didn't keep feeding Matthews then how many goals do you think he would have? 40 maybe. His goals have less value because Matthews hardly ever scores on the rush.
i've seen 200 guys score 100p, i've never seen any one get 70g+...the last time it happened was the first year i watched hockey, '93, selanne+mogilny and i was too young to have watched that many games or really understand it.
Pressure is on Matthews, McDavid doesn't care, he wants a Cup. If the assists come fine. Individual awards are all any Leaf cares about.
Loved having Strudwick on the show - Bring him on ANYTIME
In the history of the NHL 3 guys have had 100 assists, Gretzky multiple times, Orr once, and Lemieux once. Way more 70 goal scorers and multiple times. The fact that 100 assists is rare and achieved by only 3 players indicates it is a harder achievement.
It’s A L L about The Centre of Their Universe‼️
If he pushes 80 or to a goal per game, now that is elite company! Like say 100 assists would be.
@BobsUruncle-dl7cs
I live in Raincouver…Hughes is their MVP. Not sure what game you’re watching & Miller has a more complete game.
Leon Draisaitl’s a former single season, triple trophy winner, has more facets to his game than Mathews…much like Jari Kurri had, while everyone was watching Gretzky. He typically plays 2nd fiddle in the Connor conversation, but people like myself, understand the difference. Leon could win the Richard if he wanted, but he’s more about the team, a superior playmaker, who can play all forward positions.
@BobsUruncle-dl7cs
👏 You’re one of the few people who have said the same thing regarding Connor & Leon’s upcoming contract situation. Leon’s better value/bang for the buck; more versatile, bigger & rugged, (a nasty side when required), a superior faceoff man, better one-timer. Perhaps the superior hockey mind, too…he’s very sneaky, likes to use different speeds to his game. Watch him back-check, especially when he turns over or looses the puck…he can steal pucks at will. His hand-eye puck coordination is other worldly, including his backhand pass! He’s better built for post season hockey…he was one point behind Connor in playoff scoring, virtually playing on one leg! Everyone knew his shooting was totally compromised due to his injury, yet he finished 2nd in playoff scoring, one back of McDavid.
I once had a season ticket during the ‘80’s Oiler Dynasty. Was at the game on May 19, 1984, when we dethroned the great, NY Islanders! Watched Pocklington prematurely dismantled the greatest team in NHL history. Gretzky was traded! Sorry, McDavid doesn’t compare…been there, done that. Let’s get it right this time! Unfortunately, Katz has a gun to Holland’s head, needs to deliver a Cup, ASAP. Especially with BOTH contracts expiring in succession. He’s played his hand already; signs Connor’s former, juniors linemate, coach & agent, A L L to Oiler contracts. Sure, we could really set up Edmonton’s hockey future with a blockbuster trade…most people don’t have the foresight or vision, caught up in today’s melodrama.
McDavid has 623 assists . Matthew's has 623 points. No contest
622 for matthews.
Matthews 70 goals would win the MVP because Toronto is the epicentre and Mecca of hockey.
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@BobsUruncle-dl7cs Looks like you’re the only one doing the whining. It doesn’t matter where the Leafs finish, they get all of the attention. Thanks for supporting Toronto Sports Network(TSN) and Leafsnet.
Not if MacD adds 40 goals on top of 100 assists vs 70 goals with 25 assists
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@HandShakeLineRespect the overdrive show is by far the best sports talk show going. As an Oilers fan I don't mind hearing the talk about the Leafs more I get it. See if Leafs can make it put of the first round this year
I'm a McDavid guy, but 70 goals is pretty awesome. I hope they both get to these milestones, kuch too
i would trade those 70 goals , for 20 goals in april may and june . id even throw the 100 assists in with the 70 goals for 25 goals in playoffs.
Auston Matthews has 54 goals with only 18 games to play. I don’t see him hitting 70.
One can not get an assist if a goal is not scored. The fact is Matthews and McDavid are both equally magical players.
Zack Hyman is the best contract. You can't beat that.
Both are amazing, can we leave it there. McDavid is the best player. Mathews will probably go down as one of the best goal scorers. Mathews still need to prove himself in playoffs.
100 assists
The 100 assists are almost 50% more points than 70 goals. So the goals don’t come close in terms of value. The Oilers had more team success after Gretzky scored less goals and more points for his team.😀 Matthews has room for improvement by focusing on maximizing points thru more assists team success and less on goal scoring records - goal scoring records lead to Constant Spring golf rather than playoff runs.
If Mathews doesn't score, who does? That's the issue with him passing more. 99 had some absolutely stacked teams.
Mathews looks left and right, he sees Mitchy and Knies. That's why he shoots.
@@people3865 Gretzky was a far superior talent than Matthews. He created time and space - to make the players around him better. Gretzky and Oilers fans never complained about the talent of the many players around him because Gretzky made his line mates look so good - he worked to create the 50% more scoring opportunities for any line mates Gretzky had. Often an enforcer could play with Gretzky & and that Enforcer could get 30 to 40 goals with Gretzky. Not so with Brett Hull and Matthews - they are just one dimensional snipers. There is nothing wrong with snipers - it just is that they are not as valuable as Gretzky and Mario the great scoring leaders. McDavid is progressing by increasing his assists this year.
Matthews’s coaching doesn’t look smart enough for team successes like playoff runs & Leaf Executives look ok if Matthews settles for getting 65 to 70 goals while not producing a lot of assists - thus no playoff runs.
So far - Oilers strategy with McDavid are superior over Matthews. Think - if Matthews could pass & set up goals better - then Leafs could during playoffs have bigger stronger wingers with Matthews - the ones they need against Bruins and Florida in the playoffs?
But the Leafs don’t. Leafs strategy only works ok in the regular season - as Marner (too soft for playoff hockey) drops off 27% in the playoffs and Matthews has zero playoff elimination game winning goals.😀
@@jimlangdon1947Gretzky had 50x the team to work with too .
Depends on the situation. McD 100 assists with Draisitl and Hyman maybe not as impressive as Matthews 70, but if Sid got 100 assists, more impressive than Matthews 70.
Hot take. If secondary assists are so insignificant, why have it? If we have it, what's the argument for not having a third assist ? Just have goal and 1 assist.
My take on assists is that sometimes it is the 3rd assist the play or the guy in front of the net...😂 assists are meaningless its goals that matter😂 nah... whos the mvp. ❤ Mcdavid is the best hockey player in the world.
100 assists with goals on top is def more impressive as a whole then 70 goals with no assists,
Hypothetically, getting 100 assists with no star caliber player teammates is way harder than getting 70 goals in the same circumstances.
You might think that if you got star caliber teammates the scenario is reversed, but objectively 5 modern time player have reached over 60 goals while only Joe Thornton had over 90 passes ... twice.
Crazy to think that McDavid was close to doing both at the same time in 2022-2023 at 64 goals and 89 assists (15th best point totals in a season in history).
Ahh Thunder Bay, the glorious capital of Ontario
Here, let me help you. What matters is winning a championship. The Canadian way is to go for points because you can't win the Cup. And yes, I am Canadian.
No shit, Vegas had 18 Canadians on the cup winning team. Canadians are always winning the cup.
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Thankyou this is way better than sports on cable 🇨🇦😄
Love Dregs great sports guy and honest sports guy🇨🇦😁
Darren "Due Dilligence" Dreger
McDavid contract OVER no Stanley Cup calling it on this day March 7/2024...I actually called the day he pulled over the Oilers jersey 2 years left to go
67... LOL... I'M CALLIING IT RIGHT NOW...
67-4EVA!!! KEEP DA STREAK ALIVE!!! YOU CAN DO IT!!!
70 goals
New to hockey eh
This season is truly up 😂to momentum 🔥🇨🇦🇺🇸
Edmonton will always be in the shadow of the big city Toronto. The Mecca, the epicentre of the hockey universe.
Try winning
@@cheechdubinsky6709 i will pass your message on to McDavid.
@@cheechdubinsky6709 I’ll pass your message on to McDavid.
@@cheechdubinsky6709 I’ll pass your message on to McDavid.
@@cheechdubinsky6709 I’ll pass your message on to McDavid.
Hands Down MATTHEWS over McDavid this season
Whadever it takes to get T’rana in the conversation…
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Definitely NOT Hyman he is 32 years old and going down starting next season
LOL... tavares... 👍😁😭😂🤣🍼
Gotta block that guy
100 assists. Not even close.
Couldn't resists this question 🔥🇨🇦🇺🇸
Why is Hayes allowed to talk?
Pal is the host
If any player cares about their own stats..it tells me that player will never win the cup!! Not a fkn chance. The team goal is what fkn matters. That's why the leafs are Charmin. They will never win a cup. Never!
70 goals < 100 apples < the stanley cup
Ask marner
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70 goals and it’s not even close. Assists are garbage points that were only added in so little brothers could say they helped. They give 2 out on every goal and you can score one from the bench.
If Marner didn't keep feeding Matthews then how many goals do you think he would have? 40 maybe. His goals have less value because Matthews hardly ever scores on the rush.
Canucks are too easy to cheer for 😂🔥🇨🇦
Huge Ken Holland he has fulfilled his contract 🇨🇦😁
i wish youtube let you block certain peoples comments
i've seen 200 guys score 100p, i've never seen any one get 70g+...the last time it happened was the first year i watched hockey, '93, selanne+mogilny and i was too young to have watched that many games or really understand it.
100 A
100A + 40 G
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100 apples
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