Insightful . Always assumed kakuma was transitional and that once processed they are allowed to get out of the camp . It’s crazy being locked up in that place like a prison
It's not crazy...our neighbours are always in a war...coz D.R.C,Sudan,South Sudan,Somalia are our neighbours...the last war in Ethiopia was in 2022,Eritrea is described as the North Korea of Africa...we would be overwhelmed by our neighbours if we didn't try to detain some in refugee camps...Uganda is more welcoming and they have 1.7M refugees...Kenya has about half but in real numbers,its more because we have somalis who can't speak swahili or English in eastleigh so...illegal migrants ...we have Congolese people who claim asylum in Uganda and still head onto Kenya...South Sudanese people in Nairobi...our number of total refugees is unknown because of the illegal migrants
Why are Rwandans still living as refugees in Kenya when Rwanda is a stable and well-developed country, arguably more advanced than Kenya in many aspects? It’s puzzling that they remain in camps despite the peace and progress Rwanda has achieved. When our Gen Z generation takes over the government in 2027, we’ll address this issue. Refugee camps shouldn’t be a permanent solution, and it's time to facilitate their return to their home countries where they can rebuild their lives and contribute to their nation’s growth.
@@African_Bantu Tunafaa kuanza kuwa vocal.If we not careful hakutakua na nchi ya watoto wetu.Ndio hawa waoga wanafikiria visafree ilikuwa yao wahamie huku wotee, if we not careful siku moja wageni ndio watakuwa wengi kutuliko na hio ndio itakuwa mwanza ya mashidaaa.Kenya na sa wako nafsi mojaaaa.Yapaswa tutawe hiii shida
Rwanda is still a very poor country. All the so called progress that is showcased in our media is just smokes mirror. Kagame is an very e..v.il despot.
@SimonMamichaa I have an issue with the refugee situation in Kenya. Back in the 1900s, the British brought Sudanese soldiers (the Nubians) to suppress our freedom fighters. Now, over 100 years later, they’re still in places like Kibera, holding onto citizenship and refusing to fully integrate. I strongly oppose unchecked immigration and refugees-if you disagree, that’s your problem. Some Burundians and Rwandese are also causing trouble in areas like Rongai and Nakuru, with police confirming this. One day, we might face a situation like South Africa's.
@African_Bantu Kwa ajili ya watoto wetu.Watu hapa wanafikiria nahuiri chuki.Nasema watu wamekuwa wanaingia hizi miaka 30 zimepita,wengi wale wako hapa hawajawahi shughulika intergrate ndio hawa wanazaaana huku,unafaa kuwa na hofia.Kama wakenya tunapswa kuanza mazungumzo haya.Uliza watu mjengo na real estate jamii gani landigirabbas nambari 1,sio wakenyaa damu. Fikiria 30 50 60,sahii baada 30yrs kutoka hii biashara ianze ndio its costing us.Pretty soon sisi wakenya utajipata hata hio githurai ni expensives.Utajipata watu huko mbaliiiiiiiii.Not one day sa na kenya 👞 👞 tuko kwa viatu same. Kumbuka mpaka kuwa wazi & high unemployment rates ni chanza uasi sheria/lawlessness.Hawa watu hawana skills wakikosa job watafanya nini? Watu kutekwa nyara ngoja uone,kupotea
@DWThe77Percent it should've been developed into a neighborhood. The UN bodies and Other organisations along with the government could have built decent out and urban planners could have actually had a grid system. Have someone that's head of the group and a few others be accountable for one another. (Corruption) Build a School and a small Hospital. Have men from the community to patrol and keep the area clean and safe. ACTUALLY give them a deed to said properties so they WILL have a sense of belonging and contribute to the fabric of the Kenyan demographic culture and economics. Give the area opportunity to have businesses run by said residents. What will happen some will stay and make it work setting down roots. others will make money and move away or even out of Kenya
Kenya has become a refugee camp,look like pretty soon we might pop explosion & its not g00d 4 any c0untry.D0nt 4get z00geria heard visafree & all swarming here.Yeahh let's bring new pple who will not intergrate.
@@kinganthonygrounoe7625 Z00gerians wanafikiria visafree meant wote waje huku.I saw em celebrate independence day,im like disrespectful to freedom fighters.Go do it at 🏡
There should be never a refugee or camp in the world let alone in Kenya. War is a big business sad. It’s truly disheartening how conflicts can result in such humanitarian crises. Refugee camps, like those in Kenya and many other countries, are a testament to the ongoing struggles caused by war, displacement, and instability. The idea that war is often driven by economic and political interests is something many have argued, and it only deepens the tragedy of those affected. For long-term solutions, addressing the root causes of conflict-such as inequality, political instability, and resource exploitation-could help prevent the need for refugee camps. International cooperation and policies focused on peace-building and sustainable development are critical in breaking the cycle of war and displacement.
@@ringringring1718thank you...these people are forgetting D. R.C,Sudan,South Sudan,Somalia,Eritrea(the North Korea of Africa) are all our neighbours...we would be overrun by our neighbours
It is hard to free Africans. I don't think it will ever happen.Am the early 30s and so my colleagues and friends, no matter how much i try to engage them about Africa matters they always ignore me and say they dont care, some find me very boring so they always cut me off,that's how i know we have a long way to go
So many can now safely return to their homeland but choose to stay in a refugee camp even though they know the conditions are poor and they're unlikely to be accepted or provisioned with the services by the Kenyan government. Only reason to stay put is they've made "refugee" their identity even though they are no longer a refugee as they are no longer fleeing war, etc.
Hao ndugu zetu wapewe vibali vya kuishi na kusoma nchini Kenya na vilevile wajumuishwe kwenye jamii yetu ya wakenya. Hao watasaidia kujenga nchi yetu kiuchumi na kuipaisha juu zaidi.
@@58andirangu --->umeshawahi kusikia kwamba watu ni rasilimali? Iwapo ni vivyo hivyo mbona mashirika mbalimbali na wanabiashara hawatumii rasilimali hiyo kukuza na kustawi biashara zao? Uongozi duni usio na mpango dira wa uchumi (economic blueprint) ndio unawekeza kwenye vizuizi na vikwazo banifu vya kuzorotesha na kudumaza uchumi. Nawarai wakenya wachague viongozi mahiri na stadi wenye maono na njozi za kupevusha na kustawisha nchi yetu. Asante!
@afrakanaswahilitv5520 Wewe ni kumbavu unachukuwa watu hawana skills wataenda wapi..Hatujachukuwa wakimbizi wakutosha.Boss wengine sasa ndio wanachukuwa maplots na kuangusha nyumba za wakenyA.Hizi ni shidaaaaa& we as kenyans tunafaa kukomesha hizi, watoto wako wataridhi nchi gani?
--->Maadamu kuna mtu yeyote katika sayari hii ambaye anamdharau mwenzake kwa misingi ya rangi ya ngozi ya mwili au kabila, basi daima kutakuwa na vita. Waafrika tuko pamoja milele daima dawamu.
Bro kenya and sa is the same shoes.Our govt has never taken caution in matters of border & immigration,& we been hit numerous times by £l shabab.Fact that we close by we get the most than sa. You have to realise kenya has been taking refugees from 80s,most of us were not born,from somali, South sudan,rwanda,burundi,sudan,eritrea, ethiopia(few),drc & n0w nigerians think visafree meant the wh0le c0untry c0me over.We r scr£Wed big time if we don't deal with this mess
@@DWThe77Percent I think it was obvious observation, it seems like every country in Africa have refugee camp excluding south Africa however the conflict that happens been poor migrant ( mostly illegal migrant) and poor south African is largely label as xenophobia whereas in place like Kenya, Ghana, Botswana...etc have refugee camps where they monitor refugee, is also interesting to learn that even their movement is limited, in other side , I understand to the important of protecting their local especially economical, in you visit South Africa you will find migrant compete with local for low skill work in some case business like hotel and restaurant prefer to hire illegal migrant workers because is general cheap with no strings attached, no paying things like unemployment fund, is general save lot of money to this business this we will end up making migrant and local fight because local are overlooked
@@dokotelam7207y'all need to be sure what you're saying because i think you're not educated on this subject There's difference between immigrants and refugees/asylum seekers Refugees and asylum seekers leave their country to move to a country without following due process ie passport,visa, health checks etc while migrants follow the due process These Refugees you see on the video are still going through the process to be legalised, it's a slow process though which is very sad and unfair
@@dokotelam7207kenyans dont have the same xenophobia SA does immigrants aren't hated an exception to a small extent is somali nationals because of the security issue
Africa is so messed up due to largely too many languages. Looking at these people they could belong to any parts of Africa, particularly West, East, South and Central Africa. If not for languages who can say you’re not Kenyan, Rwandan or Sudanese. 🤷🏽♀️ May God help us as a people. I’m tired 😪.
Ain't we not compatible.Thats why bordelesss africa will never work.We shud focus on AI,good governance,end poverty,create of jobs etc.Otherwiss we stay at home& build our countries
I came to USA 🇺🇸 California from Kakuma refugee camp. I’m a sure you that I have friends still there making money more than 30,000 USA dollars a year , like those refugees of Kenya supposedly integrated and given Kenya 🇰🇪 ID and move freely especially in Eastern Africa. D 77% you are amazing team . Keep up
So if they have leave and still they leave there ,then kenya Gorverment should give them leave to remend or give them citizens to have their rights like anyone else.
@DWThe77Percent Yes in Europe country like United Kingdom, Germany, Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, and so on .second, they have been there long since they speak the language. So why not.
Some of them are immigrants in name of refugees I was studying in a private school in Lodwar where we used to study with thewhole family of then the Governor of Juba they used to get privileges as naming themselves refugees
Africa is so messed up due to largely too many languages. Looking at these people they could belong to any parts of Africa, particularly West, East, South and Central Africa. If not for languages who can say you’re not Kenyan, Rwandan or Sudanese. 🤷🏽♀️ May God help us as a people. I’m tired 😪.
But you have zakayo here pushing opening c0untry to everyone with their tribes.If u ask me africa descent folk from Caribbean,us,etc are less problematic here than fellow African folk. When I look at kenya and listen to south african both countries with too many foreign folk I know bordeless africa will never work.Will bring tooooo many problems
Insightful . Always assumed kakuma was transitional and that once processed they are allowed to get out of the camp . It’s crazy being locked up in that place like a prison
I thought so too
It's not crazy...our neighbours are always in a war...coz D.R.C,Sudan,South Sudan,Somalia are our neighbours...the last war in Ethiopia was in 2022,Eritrea is described as the North Korea of Africa...we would be overwhelmed by our neighbours if we didn't try to detain some in refugee camps...Uganda is more welcoming and they have 1.7M refugees...Kenya has about half but in real numbers,its more because we have somalis who can't speak swahili or English in eastleigh so...illegal migrants
...we have Congolese people who claim asylum in Uganda and still head onto Kenya...South Sudanese people in Nairobi...our number of total refugees is unknown because of the illegal migrants
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I do love these talks as they give glimpse of Africa
So beautiful minds, I love you 77% team
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Why are Rwandans still living as refugees in Kenya when Rwanda is a stable and well-developed country, arguably more advanced than Kenya in many aspects? It’s puzzling that they remain in camps despite the peace and progress Rwanda has achieved. When our Gen Z generation takes over the government in 2027, we’ll address this issue. Refugee camps shouldn’t be a permanent solution, and it's time to facilitate their return to their home countries where they can rebuild their lives and contribute to their nation’s growth.
@@African_Bantu
Tunafaa kuanza kuwa vocal.If we not careful hakutakua na nchi ya watoto wetu.Ndio hawa waoga wanafikiria visafree ilikuwa yao wahamie huku wotee, if we not careful siku moja wageni ndio watakuwa wengi kutuliko na hio ndio itakuwa mwanza ya mashidaaa.Kenya na sa wako nafsi mojaaaa.Yapaswa tutawe hiii shida
Rwanda is still a very poor country. All the so called progress that is showcased in our media is just smokes mirror. Kagame is an very e..v.il despot.
Rwandans and Burundi I have no problems with them stop HATE
@SimonMamichaa I have an issue with the refugee situation in Kenya. Back in the 1900s, the British brought Sudanese soldiers (the Nubians) to suppress our freedom fighters. Now, over 100 years later, they’re still in places like Kibera, holding onto citizenship and refusing to fully integrate. I strongly oppose unchecked immigration and refugees-if you disagree, that’s your problem. Some Burundians and Rwandese are also causing trouble in areas like Rongai and Nakuru, with police confirming this. One day, we might face a situation like South Africa's.
@African_Bantu
Kwa ajili ya watoto wetu.Watu hapa
wanafikiria nahuiri chuki.Nasema watu wamekuwa wanaingia hizi miaka 30 zimepita,wengi wale wako hapa hawajawahi shughulika intergrate ndio hawa wanazaaana huku,unafaa kuwa na hofia.Kama wakenya tunapswa kuanza mazungumzo haya.Uliza watu mjengo na real estate jamii gani landigirabbas nambari 1,sio wakenyaa damu.
Fikiria 30 50 60,sahii baada 30yrs kutoka hii biashara ianze ndio its costing us.Pretty soon sisi wakenya utajipata hata hio githurai ni expensives.Utajipata watu huko mbaliiiiiiiii.Not one day sa na kenya 👞 👞 tuko kwa viatu same.
Kumbuka mpaka kuwa wazi & high unemployment rates ni chanza uasi sheria/lawlessness.Hawa watu hawana skills wakikosa job watafanya nini? Watu kutekwa nyara ngoja uone,kupotea
It shouldn't be a camp anymore it should just be a neighborhood
That's an interesting suggestion.
Or they return home
@DWThe77Percent it should've been developed into a neighborhood. The UN bodies and Other organisations along with the government could have built decent out and urban planners could have actually had a grid system. Have someone that's head of the group and a few others be accountable for one another. (Corruption) Build a School and a small Hospital. Have men from the community to patrol and keep the area clean and safe. ACTUALLY give them a deed to said properties so they WILL have a sense of belonging and contribute to the fabric of the Kenyan demographic culture and economics. Give the area opportunity to have businesses run by said residents.
What will happen some will stay and make it work setting down roots. others will make money and move away or even out of Kenya
I'm curious, does Kenya experience significant number of undocumented immigrants outside refugee camp?
They are ver many, especially Burundians, Congolese, Somali and Rwandese
@@marcusdanielmuchangi11 have you answered the question?
Kenya has become a refugee camp,look like pretty soon we might pop explosion & its not g00d 4 any c0untry.D0nt 4get z00geria heard visafree & all swarming here.Yeahh let's bring new pple who will not intergrate.
especially west africans...they ve started flocking here...we dont want them...we only allow east africans
@@kinganthonygrounoe7625
Z00gerians wanafikiria visafree meant wote waje huku.I saw em celebrate independence day,im like disrespectful to freedom fighters.Go do it at 🏡
There should be never a refugee or camp in the world let alone in Kenya. War is a big business sad.
It’s truly disheartening how conflicts can result in such humanitarian crises. Refugee camps, like those in Kenya and many other countries, are a testament to the ongoing struggles caused by war, displacement, and instability. The idea that war is often driven by economic and political interests is something many have argued, and it only deepens the tragedy of those affected.
For long-term solutions, addressing the root causes of conflict-such as inequality, political instability, and resource exploitation-could help prevent the need for refugee camps. International cooperation and policies focused on peace-building and sustainable development are critical in breaking the cycle of war and displacement.
If a govt is struggling with it's own population... How do you propose they suddenly get the capacity to take more abrupt and spontaneous population?
@@ringringring1718thank you...these people are forgetting D. R.C,Sudan,South Sudan,Somalia,Eritrea(the North Korea of Africa) are all our neighbours...we would be overrun by our neighbours
Unification of Africans is the solution, this poverty by design has to be fought by any means necessary,
Good idea. Keep south africa out of it though.
It is hard to free Africans. I don't think it will ever happen.Am the early 30s and so my colleagues and friends, no matter how much i try to engage them about Africa matters they always ignore me and say they dont care, some find me very boring so they always cut me off,that's how i know we have a long way to go
They will know the truth and the truth will set them FREE
@@josephkenga5627 you can't know the truth one you are not interested, Africans like suffering and endurance.
@@keepitreal335 Not all Africans hate themselves; those who were robed their knowledge of understanding are ignorance;
Used to be Edith Kimani's fan back when she was @KTN but now am a full air Conditioner 😅😅...kudos Edith
Back in kenya . Interesting
how can you feel comfortable being a refugee for all this time
What would you have them do?
Very dumb question IMO
So many can now safely return to their homeland but choose to stay in a refugee camp even though they know the conditions are poor and they're unlikely to be accepted or provisioned with the services by the Kenyan government. Only reason to stay put is they've made "refugee" their identity even though they are no longer a refugee as they are no longer fleeing war, etc.
I want to come back and watch 💖
Potential
Hao ndugu zetu wapewe vibali vya kuishi na kusoma nchini Kenya na vilevile wajumuishwe kwenye jamii yetu ya wakenya. Hao watasaidia kujenga nchi yetu kiuchumi na kuipaisha juu zaidi.
It’s not that easy. Our resources are already stretched. We can’t just take everyone in with no formula
@@58andirangu --->umeshawahi kusikia kwamba watu ni rasilimali? Iwapo ni vivyo hivyo mbona mashirika mbalimbali na wanabiashara hawatumii rasilimali hiyo kukuza na kustawi biashara zao? Uongozi duni usio na mpango dira wa uchumi (economic blueprint) ndio unawekeza kwenye vizuizi na vikwazo banifu vya kuzorotesha na kudumaza uchumi. Nawarai wakenya wachague viongozi mahiri na stadi wenye maono na njozi za kupevusha na kustawisha nchi yetu. Asante!
@afrakanaswahilitv5520
Wewe ni kumbavu unachukuwa watu hawana skills wataenda wapi..Hatujachukuwa wakimbizi wakutosha.Boss wengine sasa ndio wanachukuwa maplots na kuangusha nyumba za wakenyA.Hizi ni shidaaaaa& we as kenyans tunafaa kukomesha hizi, watoto wako wataridhi nchi gani?
To the journalist are you a maseno university alumni coz i am an alumni in 2016
--->Maadamu kuna mtu yeyote katika sayari hii ambaye anamdharau mwenzake kwa misingi ya rangi ya ngozi ya mwili au kabila, basi daima kutakuwa na vita. Waafrika tuko pamoja milele daima dawamu.
Do you think African refugees are treated well in other African countries?
So other African countries have institutionalized xenophobia... But everyone sees South Africa as a xenophobic country.
What do you mean there?
Bro kenya and sa is the same shoes.Our govt has never taken caution in matters of border & immigration,& we been hit numerous times by £l shabab.Fact that we close by we get the most than sa.
You have to realise kenya has been taking refugees from 80s,most of us were not born,from somali, South sudan,rwanda,burundi,sudan,eritrea,
ethiopia(few),drc & n0w nigerians think visafree meant the wh0le c0untry c0me over.We r scr£Wed big time if we don't deal with this mess
@@DWThe77Percent I think it was obvious observation, it seems like every country in Africa have refugee camp excluding south Africa however the conflict that happens been poor migrant ( mostly illegal migrant) and poor south African is largely label as xenophobia whereas in place like Kenya, Ghana, Botswana...etc have refugee camps where they monitor refugee, is also interesting to learn that even their movement is limited, in other side , I understand to the important of protecting their local especially economical, in you visit South Africa you will find migrant compete with local for low skill work in some case business like hotel and restaurant prefer to hire illegal migrant workers because is general cheap with no strings attached, no paying things like unemployment fund, is general save lot of money to this business this we will end up making migrant and local fight because local are overlooked
@@dokotelam7207y'all need to be sure what you're saying because i think you're not educated on this subject
There's difference between immigrants and refugees/asylum seekers
Refugees and asylum seekers leave their country to move to a country without following due process ie passport,visa, health checks etc while migrants follow the due process
These Refugees you see on the video are still going through the process to be legalised, it's a slow process though which is very sad and unfair
@@dokotelam7207kenyans dont have the same xenophobia SA does immigrants aren't hated an exception to a small extent is somali nationals because of the security issue
Africa is so messed up due to largely too many languages. Looking at these people they could belong to any parts of Africa, particularly West, East, South and Central Africa. If not for languages who can say you’re not Kenyan, Rwandan or Sudanese. 🤷🏽♀️
May God help us as a people. I’m tired 😪.
Ain't we not compatible.Thats why bordelesss africa will never work.We shud focus on AI,good governance,end poverty,create of jobs etc.Otherwiss we stay at home& build our countries
I came to USA 🇺🇸 California from Kakuma refugee camp.
I’m a sure you that I have friends still there making money more than 30,000 USA dollars a year , like those refugees of Kenya supposedly integrated and given Kenya 🇰🇪 ID and move freely especially in Eastern Africa.
D 77% you are amazing team .
Keep up
Interesting to know!
I think Kenya refugees are treated better than other African camps
Rubbish
why do you say ?
So if they have leave and still they leave there ,then kenya Gorverment should give them leave to remend or give them citizens to have their rights like anyone else.
Do you think it's the same procedure elsewhere?
@DWThe77Percent Yes in Europe country like United Kingdom, Germany, Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, and so on .second, they have been there long since they speak the language. So why not.
Our country resources are so stretched. We don't need to encourage refugees to stay.
ARE THEY FROM RWANDA OR SUDANESE?
Mixed can’t u see and u can’t act like Kagame is not repressive
Even being born in kenya and by chance your parents or one of your parent has a Muslim name its hard to get IDs
That's an interesting revelation.
Some of them are immigrants in name of refugees I was studying in a private school in Lodwar where we used to study with thewhole family of then the Governor of Juba they used to get privileges as naming themselves refugees
Is a situation like that worrying for the actual refugees and their hosts?
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Africa is so messed up due to largely too many languages. Looking at these people they could belong to any parts of Africa, particularly West, East, South and Central Africa. If not for languages who can say you’re not Kenyan, Rwandan or Sudanese. 🤷🏽♀️
May God help us as a people. I’m tired 😪.
But you have zakayo here pushing opening c0untry to everyone with their tribes.If u ask me africa descent folk from Caribbean,us,etc are less problematic here than fellow African folk.
When I look at kenya and listen to south african both countries with too many foreign folk I know bordeless africa will never work.Will bring tooooo many problems