Love this one coach. You and Dr. Mike Israetel has me counting macros and losing 121 lbs in 3 years and it's nearly one she half years later still keep it off counting macros and still eating pancakes or French toast everyday.
It's worth noting the "Twinkie Doctor" also added a can of vegetables daily, protein, fiber and multivitamins to his diet.I guess he left a little room in his 1800 calories/daily. The point is still valid, but he did try to get minimal nutrition.
So many "influencer" types love to espouse things in a two dimensional way, without stating other very obvious aspects about something. It's all about clicks and confirmation bias. Sad times we live in. Keep up the great videos!
@@ClydeErwinBarretto I don't think Mike really did or does anything when he admitted he hired/hires registered dietitians which means pretty much do they do the work for him and only hire registered dietitians who supports his biased views. Mike seems more like an agent/manager for registered dietitians
If you looks at Dolce's program it is mix of carb cycling, calorie cycling, and diuretics all mixed together. Also I don't think he really does anything when he hires bunch of registered dietitians who supports his bias views
Love that the maximum pole of disinformation is depicted as Fung :) Damn he pisses me of when watching his talks and interviews, him and Lustig, and then the thousands of people getting mislead seen later in the comments, almost should be criminal being that stupid, or disingenuous, however perceived as :) Thanks for awesome vid - btw, not trying be a jerk, and just ny humble opinion, but the singing 'knoooow" in intro is pretty cringey to my ears, but nitpicking here, and not important, and possibly alone in this thinking, well feeling. Thanks again.
This was so needed!!! Dr lanyne you are undoubtedly the best in the industry and I know I speak for everyone in the fitness community who is real and knowledgable when I say that we appreciate you and having an educated experienced smart person like yourself to educate us and shut down the bullshit that is spread in the fitness/nutrition community and correct it like you did here with mike! This video was much needed for a lot of people in the fitness/ nutrition community who buy into the bullshit and lies that are put out there and need to be educated on what is actually accurate and what is actually facts! Science is accurate and feelings and bullshit opinions aren't! I have your book and have been following you for year's and have learned so much from you!!!! Keep killing it brother!!!!!!!💪
In summary, I think you said here and in other videos that "most people will probably get most benefits one can get from a diet by following a mediterranian-like diet with some treats here and there while maintaining a healthy bodyweight". Personally that makes sense to me, although I'm mostly just repeating what you and others have said. I think a comparison with muscle building is fair and results in a similar conclusion. Now I'm a bit biased towards optimization, perfection, playing around with stuff and so forth because I just love these things. Certainly would be interesting to get some solid data in terms of outcomes (health, longevity, productivity) with such an approach, although probably very hard if not impossible. I think overall, if we make it 2 different approaches, both are tools that are optimal for different people with different goals and ressources and can ultimately contribute to (slighty? significantly?) different outcomes. Love and strength, Thomas
This blows my mind how people deny energy balance. All food is just potential energy for the mitochondria all food ultimately becomes protons and electrons to generate ATP through ATP synthase and the rest of the macro molecule use exhaled. Energy balance matters great Job Layne
Nobody argues energy balance, it's just that gym bros don't understand thermodynamics at all. You are not a closed system. Full stop. In an engineering thermodynamics class, the first thing you do is define the energy boundary; you don't have an easily modelled energy boundary.
This video is correct. Spent years eating healthy...very healthy, and still eat that way now. As great as that is for satiety and health related to high amounts of fiber and micronutrients, it only dropped my bodyfat so much. It was reducing overall food volume.... calories IN and OUT, along with increased WALKING, and focusing on that, that really got my bodyfat to drop to ripped levels. Very good video...right on the money $$
Exactly, quality helps, but focusing too much on quality is troublesome in its own way. There are loads of “healthy eating” blogs and IG accounts posting recipes for cakes and cookie dough. The only thing making those sweets “healthy” is that they use coconut oil (which is still fat) and maple syrup (still sugar). Even if we concede that those ingredients have some benefit that their mainstream counterparts don’t have and which doesn’t show on their nutrition label (phytochemicals maybe?) that’s nothing compared to the health benefit that comes from reaching and maintaining a healthy weight. If trying to “eat clean bro” distracts someone from that goal, it’s a net negative.
@@Magic_beans_ Magic.....you nailed that right on the head. So many food items nowadays packaged as " healthy options," are still full of hidden calories. It also wrongly suggests that you can then eat all you want of these food items.. Some are advertised as " Keto friendly, " or " all natural, " or " organic " or "whole grain." But they are still full of calories, and those calories WILL be deposited as FAT, if not burned. Whole Natural Foods, to me, are the best way to go, as they are bulky and full of fiber. It's hard to overeat on them, and they're full of micronutrients. But I can tell you first hand, that there were months at a time where I ate " clean " as a whistle, and dropped very little if any bodyfat. Had many friends back in the day who led the " workout, layout, go out " lifestyle. lol They always struggled with getting lean. They'd go to the gym 5 days a week to lift and do cardio, and ate fairly clean, so they never quite understood what kind of magical supplement, or specific gym exercise they were neglecting, that was keeping them from getting lean. What they were not seeing was how many extra calories they were consuming at the bars. They also totally missed the fact that even though they spent 10 hours per week in the gym, they spent the other 158 hours a week in a sitting, laying, sleeping, or some other non-active position. Their daily and weekly calorie intake was too high --- and their daily and weekly calorie expenditures were too low. The result, they were big beefy frustrated guys who all wanted to be 6% bodyfat, but never really got much below 20% body fat. I can't tell you how many fat loss gimmicks they fell prey to. People make this WAYYYY too complicated. You're correct, and so is the video.
Excuse my ignorance, but Iam new to the cal in , cal out. I thought it was all about carbs. I literally thought that carbs or sugar from fruit or any thing else was making me fat. It’s exciting to see what kind of shape I can get into especially after hearing about your success. 👍🏾
@@believeinjesus8300 Well, most people would agree, that refined sugars don't help a person's weight loss cause. And when people talk about " refined sugars," think cookies, cakes, donuts, candy bars, soda pop, etc." Natural sugars that come in fruit are not making people fat. I learned from Clarence Bass, who is sill, at 85 years old, the undisputed master of fat loss and overall health. Clarence ran the Q & A column for Joe Weiders Muscles and Fitness, for 18 years,. He's written something like 18 books on achieving ultimate leanness and maximum health. Natural WHOLE foods, also known as " eating foods in the wrapper that God put them in, " will make you healthy, strong, and lean. It's Manmade foods that are causing so much of the problems with obesity. Add that to the fact that we are all sitting more from morning to night, and you have a recipe for disaster. Most people are consuming too many calories, and burning too few. Refined sugars in man-made foods, confuse the brain and signals of hunger and satiety that are sent to the stomach and back to the brain. Refined sugars and man made industrial fats create unnatural cravings that encourage you to eat more. There is very little fiber in man-made foods. Fiber fills you up, and makes you feel full for longer. Most refined foods were created and perfected in the 20th century, for purposes of feeding large populations of people during and after WW! and WW2. Desperate measures for desperate times, you could say. But the war is over, and it's time for people to return to a more natural way of eating. Again, Whole natural foods, that are grown and eating in the wrapper that nature or god put them in, are NOT MAKING PEOPLE FAT AND SICK. They do the reverse. All the deep rich colors in fruits and vegetables are loaded with micronutrients that the body needs. Those carbs are LONG chain, and full of fiber and water and phytochemicals. They are the stuff that life is made of. Another rule of thumb I learned from Clarence Bass is this: If you see someone in the supermarket pushing a cart full of potato chips, candy bars. pies, soda, and most refined boxed foods, you can pretty much tell what the person pushing the cart is going to look like. And the same thing in reverse. If you see a shopping cart full of Greens, Potatoes, Fruits, Whole natural Grains, Nuts, Seeds, Lean means and Wild Caught Fish, you can pretty much tell what the person pushing that cart is going to look like. Natural whole foods are already low in calories, generally. Yes, you can overeat on them, but it's very hard to. But in the end, calories consumed vs calories burned through activities like WALKING and LABOR, and EXERCISE, is the key to leanness. If you take in fewer calories than you burn, you will lose weight.
He’s definitely made fun of you on multiple occasions on his podcast / YT. I do like his bias towards reminding us about the need to think about micronutrients, antioxidants, etc., (be it overdone) BUT you’re stuff is always top level as you combine ALL the knowledge best.
So I recently got fired from a job. I took 2 weeks of not caring about diet or working out just getting my mind right looking for another job. But while at my last job I got used to just 2 meals a day with a snack in between and after. So I kept the routine even tho I was eating cereal & pasta and all the “bad” foods but I wasn’t over eating. Went back to the gym 2 days ago, weights down 3lbs and I have a 6 pack still..just saying Dolce I had no wild caught salmon and donuts 3 times in 2 weeks and it worked.
It’s true. I eat donuts and soda everyday but I wanted to check my lab levels since I recently turned 30 and they are PHENOMENAL. My doctor asked what I do. Mild exercise and not binge eat! I’ve been able to stay at 5”6 145 lbs for the last 13 years
@@AleksandarIvanov69 no I'm 5'7 guy who is 28 at 135lbs. it is a healthy weight if you are not skinny fat. bruce Lee for example was around this height and weight in his prime.
I was one those people who felt for Dr berg and that Chinese doctor. Gained lot of weight despite rigorous exercise. I came across your video one day haven’t looked anywhere since. On calorie deficit right now for 2 months results never been better. Losing fat and gaining muscles. Your myth busting videos are incredible!
@@dark_SDKR I'm doing it too. It's easy to tell. I look at parts of my body get bigger like my arms and legs. Then I lose weight every week and see the fat coming off my belly.
Much of my diet is what people would term as "clean." I eat that way because 1) I actually like to eat those particular foods and 2) it lets me eat a lot more food to meet my caloric needs. Yet knowing I can eat a blueberry bagel or some cake keeps me in check in a lot of ways, especially since I actually eat those and fit them in. I feel pretty good with all of this, too.
I was about to comment about a recent vid I saw about some nephrologist spewing some gravid misinformation similar to what your title is alluding to, but then I saw his face on the 100 scale and I lol'd.
"Almost 95% of the benefits of diet are due to the weight loss exclusively". Interesting. I wonder if this would hold true over a longer time frame. I would think that a diet consisting of a lot of junk food over several years, or a lifetime, would have a negative cumulative effect compared to a diet with good nutrition. I also suspect poor nutrition would result in decreased performance for athletes who place a high demand on their bodies.
That statement was made in relation to the study with different sugar intakes. Not junk food vs 'clean' eating. Regardless, the point is more about what aspect of the health benefits of losing body fat are down to the contents of the calories vs just the calories themselves. The only point being made is that there is a lot more flexibility in diet protocols. It is also extremely unlikely someone would be able to sustain their weight loss with such a junk food filled diet nor is it likely someone would maintain their body weight with such a diet so it isn't something that necessarily needs to be worried about anyway. It would probably affect athletic performance because top level athletes can already be working at the margins of a few % points although, athletes may well need to eat more calorie dense food to keep up with the demands of their training.
All I do is count calories to get abs, no foods are excluded. I think where people run into problems is when people think they need more calories then they actually do. Everyone is programmed they need to be full.
This method might be a bit extreme for calorie counting if it's a very low deficit, but I will typically add 20% to the total of my daily caloric intake just to account for the rounding errors as well as instances where I may overestimate how much I ate. If I track it as honestly as possible, my usual calorie intake per day is around 1500 - 2000 (before adding 20%) depending how much exercise I am doing. (My recommended caloric intake is about 2510 for 1.5 lbs per week and 2250 for 2 lbs per week.) I know this does work for me because I am losing about 1.42 to 1.5 lbs per week for the last two months and I have yet to reach a plateau. Even though I use a scale for more precise measurements, I also know when measuring liquids with a measuring cup it might actually have 8.3 oz instead of 8 oz from what I can see. This also goes for condiments, which I use sparingly, but I also don't measure it. Just making healthier alternatives like using light mayo or swapping one slice of cheese in a sandwich for a reduced fat slice of cheese is all I need to do to make my diet seamless with my usual food choices.
Just a question Layne . I had a coach who fed me 3 eggs and half cup oats for breakfast, 2 eggs for snack twice a day , steak 5oz top sirloin and tater for supper . I weighed 205 on stage diced . If you do the math I should have weighed way less. So... I ask is 1g per lb a thing or myth ? I have not used that coach in years btw.
It’s funny to me so many people still don’t understand iifym. UA-camrs like Ogus, Yucky and 3DMJ have been testing and proving these methods for a long time as well. Health and science is mysterious to most people. Which is why I think you see a lot of guru type health coaches with ufc athletes. Glad to see Lando started working with Layne!
I just finished reverse dieting (learned about it from you ;) ) And I've lost 4 lbs in two weeks from...not cutting carbs, not cutting fat, LOWERING MY DAILY CALORIE INTAKE. Data > Feelings
Thanks for calling out the “were,” Layne. That shit makes me twitch. Pretty sure there’s a correlation between the prevalence of bullshit, and the obnoxious scale of the messenger. Appreciate the dissection 💪🏼
Hello biolayne you should make a video about a carnivore zealot named Bart Kay and he wants to debate you. He claims to be highly regarded and educated in nutrition.
I can't stand it when anti CICO people do the beyond stupid "if you ate 1000 calories of chicken breast vs 1000 calories of pure sugar" type argument. Talk about a straw man argument. It is embarrassing he isn't smarter than this.
You know what's funny about that, technically it would not be the same. you would lose more weight only eating suger because you would be losing muscle because of the lack of protein 🤣
I agree. Calories are KING. That being said, when I have a craving for something sweet I go to fruit rather than junky food. If I have a craving for something higher in fat, I go to whole eggs rather than donuts, etc. I eat with purpose and plan out my meals. This works for me. By the way, great clip Layne. Cheers!
Iam 41 years old in my 20s I learned about atkins. My dad and I we’re bachelors and a diet that was steak eggs bacon hamburger ect was attractive to us so we started. We lost a good amount of weight fast forward to this week. We’re both fatties, Dad has diabetes. I tried to stay away from carbs for years thinking them to be the devil. But would diet down for a few months only to go on a 4 month binge of sugar, super Burritos ice cream and cookies , I shutter to think how many calories I was getting a day. Watching your videos challenge me to in rethink this idea about carbs and focus on my calorie intake, I got an app started tracking under 2000 a day and in a Short time I have gone from 250 to 236. Iam still fat but lifting weights and working towards a new me. My wife also is of the keto school of thought and thinks I am nuts. I even bought a rice cooker today to help my meal prep for work. Dad is slowly loosing weight walking after meals and cutting calories. 🙏🏾 thank you for all this good info. It’s like I woke up out of the matrix or something 😆
I agree that calories in & out matters more… so why would a cheat day be “bad” if calories consumed by the end of the week is the same as someone who adds junk foods to their daily meal? I find 6 days of low calorie, healthy eating sustainable when I have one cheat day to look forward to.
The implication (and he said this) is that a cheat day often leads to too much because of how easy it is to overconsume opposed to a more moderated daily intake of junk food. Personally I hate the concept of "cheat" days. If you're planned nutrition is what you described and kept to your macro and micronutrient needs, then you're not cheating anything. I drink a fair amount of beer on the weekends. I plan for it when I make my weekly nutrition plan. That's not cheating, that's sticking to the plan.
@@stenmin1234 All “diets” have failures. Cheat day works for many ppl including me (for 20 years) and I’m 100% fit & healthy. The point is that I find your preferred system unsustainable for me, yet I wouldn’t tell you it’s “wrong” if it’s works for you or anyone else. I believe he’s said the same about the best diet is the one that’s personally sustainable.
@@stenmin1234 As example, you say you drink a fair amount of beer on weekends when that habit can lead addiction for many ppl. If you can control your beer consumption, then it’s ok for you but not for ppl with a predisposition to alcohol addiction.
One thing to recognize about Dolce's philosophy is that his theory works. Simultaneously, his theory does not work for the reason that he believes it does.
I could EASILY eat 5,000 calories of donuts a day. I couldn't eat 5,000 calories of wild caught salmon. So CICO is still king, but he has a tangential point that a clean diet is likely harder to overeat on.
People want to be told they can eat unlimited food. If it’s limited re something other than calories that goes down better. Cut all,carbs and eta as much as you want of bacons and butter. Or eat as much as you want of bread, rice and sugar but cut fat to 10g a day. Weird psychology but it works. Personally I’d rather be able to eat anything I want and count and limit calories. The trick is satiety.
I like Mike but his weight loss program is about eating the right foods but dropping your calories week by week so… yeah… maybe calories do matter… maybe
The current argument I'm having with some keto/carnivore zealots is butter isn't nutrient dense. It's just fats with a lot of calories. I get a lot of "calories don't matter". I ask them to go on an all butter diet for a month and come back and let me know how much weight they lost. "Crickets"
I suppose I fall somewhere in the middle with my Wild Caught Doughnut diet
Love this one coach. You and Dr. Mike Israetel has me counting macros and losing 121 lbs in 3 years and it's nearly one she half years later still keep it off counting macros and still eating pancakes or French toast everyday.
It's worth noting the "Twinkie Doctor" also added a can of vegetables daily, protein, fiber and multivitamins to his diet.I guess he left a little room in his 1800 calories/daily. The point is still valid, but he did try to get minimal nutrition.
But the sodium is going to kill him!
@@tylerrose4416 LOL, that's the last thing he needs to worry about if he did that diet long term.
Can't blame him, he literally spent pounds of muscle in making a point, dam
Yes, cause he has a FUNCTIONING BRAIN 😁
I saw a conspiracy theory he was financially compensated to further Calories in Calories Out
So many "influencer" types love to espouse things in a two dimensional way, without stating other very obvious aspects about something. It's all about clicks and confirmation bias. Sad times we live in. Keep up the great videos!
Mike Dolce isn't really an "influencer" per say but was a big part of the MMA community as a "nutritionist." That said, dude is a clown.
@@ClydeErwinBarretto I don't think Mike really did or does anything when he admitted he hired/hires registered dietitians which means pretty much do they do the work for him and only hire registered dietitians who supports his biased views.
Mike seems more like an agent/manager for registered dietitians
If you looks at Dolce's program it is mix of carb cycling, calorie cycling, and diuretics all mixed together. Also I don't think he really does anything when he hires bunch of registered dietitians who supports his bias views
It’s because social media reinforces dualistic thinking because morons use it more often than intelligent people.
This video was very balanced and stayed on the topic or issue that was brought up. I'm watching past episodes of "what the fitness".
Enjoy! Layne's one of the best
This guy has helped restore my sanity , as my head was gonna explode with all the hard to stick to crazy diet plans,cheers 😊
Love that the maximum pole of disinformation is depicted as Fung :) Damn he pisses me of when watching his talks and interviews, him and Lustig, and then the thousands of people getting mislead seen later in the comments, almost should be criminal being that stupid, or disingenuous, however perceived as :) Thanks for awesome vid - btw, not trying be a jerk, and just ny humble opinion, but the singing 'knoooow" in intro is pretty cringey to my ears, but nitpicking here, and not important, and possibly alone in this thinking, well feeling. Thanks again.
This was so needed!!! Dr lanyne you are undoubtedly the best in the industry and I know I speak for everyone in the fitness community who is real and knowledgable when I say that we appreciate you and having an educated experienced smart person like yourself to educate us and shut down the bullshit that is spread in the fitness/nutrition community and correct it like you did here with mike! This video was much needed for a lot of people in the fitness/ nutrition community who buy into the bullshit and lies that are put out there and need to be educated on what is actually accurate and what is actually facts! Science is accurate and feelings and bullshit opinions aren't! I have your book and have been following you for year's and have learned so much from you!!!! Keep killing it brother!!!!!!!💪
Matter matters.
In summary, I think you said here and in other videos that "most people will probably get most benefits one can get from a diet by following a mediterranian-like diet with some treats here and there while maintaining a healthy bodyweight". Personally that makes sense to me, although I'm mostly just repeating what you and others have said. I think a comparison with muscle building is fair and results in a similar conclusion.
Now I'm a bit biased towards optimization, perfection, playing around with stuff and so forth because I just love these things. Certainly would be interesting to get some solid data in terms of outcomes (health, longevity, productivity) with such an approach, although probably very hard if not impossible.
I think overall, if we make it 2 different approaches, both are tools that are optimal for different people with different goals and ressources and can ultimately contribute to (slighty? significantly?) different outcomes.
Love and strength,
Thomas
This blows my mind how people deny energy balance. All food is just potential energy for the mitochondria all food ultimately becomes protons and electrons to generate ATP through ATP synthase and the rest of the macro molecule use exhaled. Energy balance matters great Job Layne
Nobody argues energy balance, it's just that gym bros don't understand thermodynamics at all.
You are not a closed system. Full stop. In an engineering thermodynamics class, the first thing you do is define the energy boundary; you don't have an easily modelled energy boundary.
5:50 Completely agree, happened to me many times, and sometimes the binge is REALLY bad binge.
That's it, I'm doin a Twinkie cut.
This video is correct. Spent years eating healthy...very healthy, and still eat that way now. As great as that is for satiety and health related to high amounts of fiber and micronutrients, it only dropped my bodyfat so much. It was reducing overall food volume.... calories IN and OUT, along with increased WALKING, and focusing on that, that really got my bodyfat to drop to ripped levels. Very good video...right on the money $$
Exactly, quality helps, but focusing too much on quality is troublesome in its own way. There are loads of “healthy eating” blogs and IG accounts posting recipes for cakes and cookie dough. The only thing making those sweets “healthy” is that they use coconut oil (which is still fat) and maple syrup (still sugar).
Even if we concede that those ingredients have some benefit that their mainstream counterparts don’t have and which doesn’t show on their nutrition label (phytochemicals maybe?) that’s nothing compared to the health benefit that comes from reaching and maintaining a healthy weight. If trying to “eat clean bro” distracts someone from that goal, it’s a net negative.
@@Magic_beans_ Magic.....you nailed that right on the head. So many food items nowadays packaged as " healthy options," are still full of hidden calories. It also wrongly suggests that you can then eat all you want of these food items.. Some are advertised as " Keto friendly, " or " all natural, " or " organic " or "whole grain." But they are still full of calories, and those calories WILL be deposited as FAT, if not burned. Whole Natural Foods, to me, are the best way to go, as they are bulky and full of fiber. It's hard to overeat on them, and they're full of micronutrients. But I can tell you first hand, that there were months at a time where I ate " clean " as a whistle, and dropped very little if any bodyfat.
Had many friends back in the day who led the " workout, layout, go out " lifestyle. lol They always struggled with getting lean. They'd go to the gym 5 days a week to lift and do cardio, and ate fairly clean, so they never quite understood what kind of magical supplement, or specific gym exercise they were neglecting, that was keeping them from getting lean. What they were not seeing was how many extra calories they were consuming at the bars. They also totally missed the fact that even though they spent 10 hours per week in the gym, they spent the other 158 hours a week in a sitting, laying, sleeping, or some other non-active position. Their daily and weekly calorie intake was too high --- and their daily and weekly calorie expenditures were too low. The result, they were big beefy frustrated guys who all wanted to be 6% bodyfat, but never really got much below 20% body fat. I can't tell you how many fat loss gimmicks they fell prey to. People make this WAYYYY too complicated. You're correct, and so is the video.
Excuse my ignorance, but Iam new to the cal in , cal out. I thought it was all about carbs. I literally thought that carbs or sugar from fruit or any thing else was making me fat. It’s exciting to see what kind of shape I can get into especially after hearing about your success. 👍🏾
@@Magic_beans_ 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@@believeinjesus8300 Well, most people would agree, that refined sugars don't help a person's weight loss cause. And when people talk about " refined sugars," think cookies, cakes, donuts, candy bars, soda pop, etc." Natural sugars that come in fruit are not making people fat. I learned from Clarence Bass, who is sill, at 85 years old, the undisputed master of fat loss and overall health. Clarence ran the Q & A column for Joe Weiders Muscles and Fitness, for 18 years,. He's written something like 18 books on achieving ultimate leanness and maximum health. Natural WHOLE foods, also known as " eating foods in the wrapper that God put them in, " will make you healthy, strong, and lean. It's Manmade foods that are causing so much of the problems with obesity. Add that to the fact that we are all sitting more from morning to night, and you have a recipe for disaster. Most people are consuming too many calories, and burning too few. Refined sugars in man-made foods, confuse the brain and signals of hunger and satiety that are sent to the stomach and back to the brain. Refined sugars and man made industrial fats create unnatural cravings that encourage you to eat more. There is very little fiber in man-made foods. Fiber fills you up, and makes you feel full for longer. Most refined foods were created and perfected in the 20th century, for purposes of feeding large populations of people during and after WW! and WW2. Desperate measures for desperate times, you could say. But the war is over, and it's time for people to return to a more natural way of eating. Again, Whole natural foods, that are grown and eating in the wrapper that nature or god put them in, are NOT MAKING PEOPLE FAT AND SICK. They do the reverse. All the deep rich colors in fruits and vegetables are loaded with micronutrients that the body needs. Those carbs are LONG chain, and full of fiber and water and phytochemicals. They are the stuff that life is made of. Another rule of thumb I learned from Clarence Bass is this: If you see someone in the supermarket pushing a cart full of potato chips, candy bars. pies, soda, and most refined boxed foods, you can pretty much tell what the person pushing the cart is going to look like. And the same thing in reverse. If you see a shopping cart full of Greens, Potatoes, Fruits, Whole natural Grains, Nuts, Seeds, Lean means and Wild Caught Fish, you can pretty much tell what the person pushing that cart is going to look like. Natural whole foods are already low in calories, generally. Yes, you can overeat on them, but it's very hard to. But in the end, calories consumed vs calories burned through activities like WALKING and LABOR, and EXERCISE, is the key to leanness. If you take in fewer calories than you burn, you will lose weight.
This channel is wonderful !
For the algorithm 😂🔥you are amazing as always.
He never mentioned wild caught donuts. Glad I dont follow Mike Dulce
😂😂😂
Vow, dr. Norton, finally someone who looks up science! Subscribed.
amazing video! the way you break down the arguments is fantastic. Thank you so much for this content.
I see this conflation of calories with nutrients regularly. People like Dolce seem to struggle with nuance.
Anyone whose whole presentation is to scream at an audience should be approached with skepticism.
Calories don't matter? Well my waistline says otherwise.
He’s definitely made fun of you on multiple occasions on his podcast / YT. I do like his bias towards reminding us about the need to think about micronutrients, antioxidants, etc., (be it overdone) BUT you’re stuff is always top level as you combine ALL the knowledge best.
After listening to that I’m 100% satiated!!! Hope the algorithm find this satiating as well!!
The Misinformation will never end.
Thanks for putting in the PMID study numbers!!!
Let's ask DK Metcalf about how much wild caught salmon he eats 😂😂😂
Bad ass video as always Layne! Best fitness content on the internet. Thank you! Keep up the good work man.
So I recently got fired from a job. I took 2 weeks of not caring about diet or working out just getting my mind right looking for another job. But while at my last job I got used to just 2 meals a day with a snack in between and after. So I kept the routine even tho I was eating cereal & pasta and all the “bad” foods but I wasn’t over eating. Went back to the gym 2 days ago, weights down 3lbs and I have a 6 pack still..just saying Dolce I had no wild caught salmon and donuts 3 times in 2 weeks and it worked.
It’s true. I eat donuts and soda everyday but I wanted to check my lab levels since I recently turned 30 and they are PHENOMENAL. My doctor asked what I do. Mild exercise and not binge eat! I’ve been able to stay at 5”6 145 lbs for the last 13 years
145? Isn't that underweight, even ?
@@TheSimonboyle ever heard of leaky gut? It completely destroys calorie theory as you don't absord anything you eat
@@AleksandarIvanov69 no I'm 5'7 guy who is 28 at 135lbs. it is a healthy weight if you are not skinny fat. bruce Lee for example was around this height and weight in his prime.
That's weird, I'm 5'10 and 142lb for last 6-7 years and I DO binge eat! However it's mostly healthy whole food and only twice a day!
But what’s your deadlift?
Ah yes, the classic "zero bullshit" to "Fung" scale.
Love your content Layne. Appreciate you man!
That guy must have been hit a lot on his head. 😂
I also like the scale, with Fung at the top! 😂 🤣
He is ALWAYS at the top !
@@marcdaniels9079 Yes, at the top of being at the bottom. 😂
“What the hell do i know”🤣 love it!
You and Coach Greg are my favorite. Thank you 🙏🏼
I was one those people who felt for Dr berg and that Chinese doctor.
Gained lot of weight despite rigorous exercise. I came across your video one day haven’t looked anywhere since. On calorie deficit right now for 2 months results never been better. Losing fat and gaining muscles.
Your myth busting videos are incredible!
how do you know you are gaining muscle if you are losing weight. very hard if not impossible for natties to gain mass when in a calorie deficit.
@@dark_SDKR I'm doing it too. It's easy to tell. I look at parts of my body get bigger like my arms and legs. Then I lose weight every week and see the fat coming off my belly.
Same , calorie deficit the way to go .. nothing of limits
Much of my diet is what people would term as "clean."
I eat that way because 1) I actually like to eat those particular foods and 2) it lets me eat a lot more food to meet my caloric needs. Yet knowing I can eat a blueberry bagel or some cake keeps me in check in a lot of ways, especially since I actually eat those and fit them in.
I feel pretty good with all of this, too.
I was about to comment about a recent vid I saw about some nephrologist spewing some gravid misinformation similar to what your title is alluding to, but then I saw his face on the 100 scale and I lol'd.
I want some research on how to teach the population the difference between success in a field and expertise in a field.
Absolutely great video 👏👏👏
Layne, I’ve always had great respect for Tom Venuto as well. Have you ever had him on the show? I think he’s pretty aligned with your way of thinking.
"Almost 95% of the benefits of diet are due to the weight loss exclusively". Interesting. I wonder if this would hold true over a longer time frame. I would think that a diet consisting of a lot of junk food over several years, or a lifetime, would have a negative cumulative effect compared to a diet with good nutrition. I also suspect poor nutrition would result in decreased performance for athletes who place a high demand on their bodies.
That statement was made in relation to the study with different sugar intakes. Not junk food vs 'clean' eating. Regardless, the point is more about what aspect of the health benefits of losing body fat are down to the contents of the calories vs just the calories themselves. The only point being made is that there is a lot more flexibility in diet protocols. It is also extremely unlikely someone would be able to sustain their weight loss with such a junk food filled diet nor is it likely someone would maintain their body weight with such a diet so it isn't something that necessarily needs to be worried about anyway.
It would probably affect athletic performance because top level athletes can already be working at the margins of a few % points although, athletes may well need to eat more calorie dense food to keep up with the demands of their training.
Thank you Layne.. keep em coming.
Calories are king and compliance is the science
Gold as always
All I do is count calories to get abs, no foods are excluded. I think where people run into problems is when people think they need more calories then they actually do. Everyone is programmed they need to be full.
This method might be a bit extreme for calorie counting if it's a very low deficit, but I will typically add 20% to the total of my daily caloric intake just to account for the rounding errors as well as instances where I may overestimate how much I ate.
If I track it as honestly as possible, my usual calorie intake per day is around 1500 - 2000 (before adding 20%) depending how much exercise I am doing. (My recommended caloric intake is about 2510 for 1.5 lbs per week and 2250 for 2 lbs per week.) I know this does work for me because I am losing about 1.42 to 1.5 lbs per week for the last two months and I have yet to reach a plateau.
Even though I use a scale for more precise measurements, I also know when measuring liquids with a measuring cup it might actually have 8.3 oz instead of 8 oz from what I can see. This also goes for condiments, which I use sparingly, but I also don't measure it. Just making healthier alternatives like using light mayo or swapping one slice of cheese in a sandwich for a reduced fat slice of cheese is all I need to do to make my diet seamless with my usual food choices.
Layne "facts don't care about feelings" Norton
lmao your videos have gotten so much funnier over the years
1:22 I love Layne even more now :) (And I didn't know it was even possible).
Just a question Layne . I had a coach who fed me 3 eggs and half cup oats for breakfast, 2 eggs for snack twice a day , steak 5oz top sirloin and tater for supper . I weighed 205 on stage diced . If you do the math I should have weighed way less. So... I ask is 1g per lb a thing or myth ?
I have not used that coach in years btw.
It’s funny to me so many people still don’t understand iifym. UA-camrs like Ogus, Yucky and 3DMJ have been testing and proving these methods for a long time as well. Health and science is mysterious to most people. Which is why I think you see a lot of guru type health coaches with ufc athletes.
Glad to see Lando started working with Layne!
For the Algorithm!
Great video!
Keep em' coming Layne
I just finished reverse dieting (learned about it from you ;) ) And I've lost 4 lbs in two weeks from...not cutting carbs, not cutting fat, LOWERING MY DAILY CALORIE INTAKE. Data > Feelings
Thanks for calling out the “were,” Layne. That shit makes me twitch.
Pretty sure there’s a correlation between the prevalence of bullshit, and the obnoxious scale of the messenger. Appreciate the dissection 💪🏼
Dude I commented on that exact short he posted haha
Great info and fun presentation as always.
Hello biolayne you should make a video about a carnivore zealot named Bart Kay and he wants to debate you. He claims to be highly regarded and educated in nutrition.
love your videos man
Here is Layne with a Katana sword on a white horse killing BS in the internet! 👊👊Well done! 👍👍
I can't stand it when anti CICO people do the beyond stupid "if you ate 1000 calories of chicken breast vs 1000 calories of pure sugar" type argument. Talk about a straw man argument. It is embarrassing he isn't smarter than this.
There's somebody you know who thinks CICO is for drug users and doesn't work for natties.
@@DreamVoid7 A mentally unbalanced person ua-cam.com/video/Tw8M31ztWAA/v-deo.html&t
He's actually laughed at in the Discord constantly.
@@DreamVoid7 Mercury eater here ua-cam.com/video/Tw8M31ztWAA/v-deo.html&t=
You know what's funny about that, technically it would not be the same. you would lose more weight only eating suger because you would be losing muscle because of the lack of protein 🤣
@@ProphetFear I know him well and absolutely no joke believe he has some legit form of mental illness.
That Twinkie diet experiment is extremely impressive. I think I might start marketing it 😅
God bless Layne et al.
I love the video doc! 🤩
I agree. Calories are KING. That being said, when I have a craving for something sweet I go to fruit rather than junky food. If I have a craving for something higher in fat, I go to whole eggs rather than donuts, etc. I eat with purpose and plan out my meals. This works for me. By the way, great clip Layne. Cheers!
Thank you sir! Commenting for the algorithm XD
Been saying this for years , even the RDs I work with disagree with me that I work with, unfortunate how many people refuse to look at research
Well said nothing to add here
Define ‘Appropriate’
and
‘Mostly’
Thank you.
Brilliant video
Thank you. I’ve saved this is a folder called “tsend to ignorant people”
Can't believe how popular the What About Mary hairstyle is these days.
Iam 41 years old in my 20s I learned about atkins. My dad and I we’re bachelors and a diet that was steak eggs bacon hamburger ect was attractive to us so we started. We lost a good amount of weight fast forward to this week. We’re both fatties, Dad has diabetes. I tried to stay away from carbs for years thinking them to be the devil. But would diet down for a few months only to go on a 4 month binge of sugar, super Burritos ice cream and cookies , I shutter to think how many calories I was getting a day. Watching your videos challenge me to in rethink this idea about carbs and focus on my calorie intake, I got an app started tracking under 2000 a day and in a Short time I have gone from 250 to 236. Iam still fat but lifting weights and working towards a new me. My wife also is of the keto school of thought and thinks I am nuts. I even bought a rice cooker today to help my meal prep for work. Dad is slowly loosing weight walking after meals and cutting calories. 🙏🏾 thank you for all this good info. It’s like I woke up out of the matrix or something 😆
A lay person is never going to “out think” someone who spent 4+yrs thinking/reading/researching for 20hrs/day about that very subject!!
idk Layne, I figure you more of a Samurai than a ninja lol
I agree that calories in & out matters more… so why would a cheat day be “bad” if calories consumed by the end of the week is the same as someone who adds junk foods to their daily meal? I find 6 days of low calorie, healthy eating sustainable when I have one cheat day to look forward to.
The implication (and he said this) is that a cheat day often leads to too much because of how easy it is to overconsume opposed to a more moderated daily intake of junk food. Personally I hate the concept of "cheat" days. If you're planned nutrition is what you described and kept to your macro and micronutrient needs, then you're not cheating anything. I drink a fair amount of beer on the weekends. I plan for it when I make my weekly nutrition plan. That's not cheating, that's sticking to the plan.
@@stenmin1234 All “diets” have failures. Cheat day works for many ppl including me (for 20 years) and I’m 100% fit & healthy. The point is that I find your preferred system unsustainable for me, yet I wouldn’t tell you it’s “wrong” if it’s works for you or anyone else. I believe he’s said the same about the best diet is the one that’s personally sustainable.
@@stenmin1234 As example, you say you drink a fair amount of beer on weekends when that habit can lead addiction for many ppl. If you can control your beer consumption, then it’s ok for you but not for ppl with a predisposition to alcohol addiction.
6:16 xD
Totally right
Curious to hear your thoughts on Benjamin Bikman's work and particularly his latest book around the role of insulin on disease and longevity.
One thing to recognize about Dolce's philosophy is that his theory works. Simultaneously, his theory does not work for the reason that he believes it does.
Good information
Great job!
I could EASILY eat 5,000 calories of donuts a day. I couldn't eat 5,000 calories of wild caught salmon. So CICO is still king, but he has a tangential point that a clean diet is likely harder to overeat on.
Dolce was never even close to being a UFC fighter , he was an MMA fighter.
I dream of a day when people will stop saying "different calories" when talking about nutrients. Sadly, I don't think I'll live to see it.
And yes, liked the video!
great video. succinct
Dr layne what’s your opinion on Ramadhan fasting?
This World is Horseshit!
People want to be told they can eat unlimited food. If it’s limited re something other than calories that goes down better. Cut all,carbs and eta as much as you want of bacons and butter. Or eat as much as you want of bread, rice and sugar but cut fat to 10g a day.
Weird psychology but it works. Personally I’d rather be able to eat anything I want and count and limit calories. The trick is satiety.
For the Rythm !!!!
You are right
I like Mike but his weight loss program is about eating the right foods but dropping your calories week by week so… yeah… maybe calories do matter… maybe
Remember the law of thermogenesis.
It’s ALWAYS false dichotomies and straw man’s with these people. EVERY SINGLE TIME
For the algorithm 💪🇵🇹
The current argument I'm having with some keto/carnivore zealots is butter isn't nutrient dense. It's just fats with a lot of calories. I get a lot of "calories don't matter". I ask them to go on an all butter diet for a month and come back and let me know how much weight they lost. "Crickets"