I was a former high level tennis player in my youth and still hit up until COVID. After getting my quest 2, I was incredibly hyped after playing 11 table tennis and seeing what was possible, and first person tennis looked like exactly what I wanted. I refunded this about half an hour or after playing. The bottom line is, bounce physics of the ball are.... Okay to reasonable. The racket collision physics are light years behind 11TT. I don't mean when people complain they miss the ball and it went though their racket, I mean applying spin and or force to the ball In the current state of the game, there is no reasonably predictable way to put slice in your serve (I have a heavy slice kick server IRL, trying this in game had me simply hitting it straight down the wrong side of the court) I can't add back spin or slice my backhand or forehand, they simply result in a slower paced shot. I think that topspin has been heavily prioritised, and that's simple enough to achieve however then comes the next problem. I try to hit a soft drop shot and I end up hitting banger out. Other times I put a full racket lag shot through and I get relatively mediocre paced shot output. I also feel like the placement is off. I hit a cross court shot, get one back and now try to place a straight winner down the line, time it.... And I get essentially another cross court shot. I am not going to rate the gfx or sound that's whatever, that really doesn't worry me. Could look like superhot for all it matters. But please get the physics right! Decent game for people who have no idea how to play and just want some fun. If you are an actual tennis player who plays above a social gathering whack around, and can place the ball with serves and shots at a good pace, this isn't your training or maintenance tool by any means. I'll keep my eye on it and hope the devs work it to a polished state and I'll grab it again. For the most part everything else was fine. Cheers
Thanks dude, great to hear from someone else with a decent playing level - from your post I will more than likely have the same annoyances so will give this game a hard pass until its been updated
@@gladiatorscoops4907 no problems at all. As I said, I really wanted this to be my go-to for tennis, as my regular partner dropped off and no longer hits, so I haven't been able to play for a year or so. But the lack of control over ball delivery on the racket end is a deal breaker. Especially knowing how good 11TT does it, it's a shame. Also, when I had downloaded the game, apparently a big physics update had gone through just recently, so no idea if this made it better or worse. Look, I think maybe give it a shot if you want you can always refund like I did. You may end up liking it enough to stick to it. I wouldn't be as hard on this game, except for the fact that it's supposed to a Tennis simulator. "The Real Tennis Simulator" as it's quoted in the name. Its a nice representation of the Tennis game, just not a Tennis Simulator.... Yet.
This got updated around a month or two ago. I never really played it for the same reasons as you. Since the update I can't stop playing... you can slice and on serves too, drop shot, and volley far better than you could before.
Btw I think the speed you swing is slow because I notice if you go to kill with the knife on RE4 if you don’t umph a little it won’t cut it won’t kill kinda like forged in fire 🔥
I play on my lawn outside, in simulation mode, with the controller attached to a real racket. When I play against an Arcade Teleporter, and I guess 95% are, it sucks. I play them a ball nobody could get, and suddenly, they jump close, but still to far to reach the ball. And yet they hit it hard, across, in a straight line, fast as an arrow, which is impossible given the movement they show. Tennis is all about reading the opponents movements... Sometimes I manage to keep the ball in play, but it goes up high in a lob. For some reason, they find it hard to hit a high ball falling to their feet. And they complain I use trick shots! In fact I never met a real player like in Eleven Table Tennis. And because Eleven online is so fantastic, this game as an online game sucks.
@@tomsawyer2112 That is lag, use a different server or choose an opponent with low ping. When the ball goes up means that you hit it with the frame of the racket. You cannot compare tennis with ping pong, they are completely two different sport.
This doesn’t look good :( Seem to lack the precision needed for making good plays or is maybe too precise making every little move of a controller to change the ball’s direction :(
@@JasonStrom8 He WAS in arcade mode, yet still a ton of frustrating misses due to poor coding. The game NEEDS WORK and is not clear if there is any real work-around or fix for the very obvious issue seen in this review. I've already witnessed the author of this game deleting posts over on Steam complaining about the same issue of constant ball/racquet misses. I'd be curious to know if BMFVR ever finds a fix for this.
@@tikibird8053 arcade mode or simulation doesn’t matter he simply missed the ball. He is not a tennis player, it’s normal missing some ball. Tennis is hard. Just keep watching the ball while you hit the ball
@@JasonStrom8 You see, this is where you as the developer have clearly mistaken a real issue on your part with it being the fault of your customers who simply don't know how to play tennis and swing a racquet. If you'd only listen closer to some of your customers you might notice that some of them are serious tennis hobbyists in real life. Speaking from my own real life tennis experience of more than 25 years I can certainly say that while my expertise is not on a pro level that I am still well aware of good body positioning & racquet technique when it comes to my tennis swing... and this game will not allow me to do any of that in a similar way to what you'd do in real life. Fact is, the only type player who'd likely not notice anything wrong here is someone who in fact doesn't understand good body positioning and swing technique. You insist that there is no tracking issue with the Quest2 so then one can only imagine the issue goes much deeper. Maybe take a look at your hit detection or ball/racquet physics.
@@tikibird8053 i listen customers since 2016, the first release of the game. There is no issue, you just miss the ball amd you can check it slowing down the video. When you realize that you can think about why you miss the ball. Different grip? Different timing? There are many reasons, i can help you to find it. Tennis is so technical, there is so much to learn.
You should play back your videos and pause it as the ball nears your racquet. You would then see that you are swinging way too late.... 2nd claim that the ball went through the racquet was actually the ball passing over the racquet.... BTW.. I found that if you look at the ball then the cameras see the controllers but if you look straight ahead and swing out of view then the Tracking is terrible...
I’m super prone to motion sickness but the only things in vr that make me sick is teleport movement/locomotion and going spinning around or upside-down
At 5:36 you clipped the ball and missed same for the second time, slowed down the vid to check, but it should have collision on the edges because you can in real life tennis clip the ball and get it to the other side
That “missing” a shot drives me crazy. It doesn’t make sense. My backhand was always doing like a small lob. But, if I swing the tennis racket with both hands, I can bring the shot down. If you could send this video to Mikori Games, I would appreciate it. This must be a bug.
It has other movement options. The teleport version brings you close to the ball, as does the autorun. But I think he was playing arcade mode, which is quite forgiving on your shots staying in game. When you play simulation, the ball is faster and some shots you have to work hard to return with long stretching. Also with auto run, you can still move your man with the anologue stick, say to get to the net or whatever. Tennis is easy on arcade was winning the AL tournament 6-0 6-0. Simulation only won 3 matches out around 12 matches. It makes you work.
I’m buying everything pretty much you’ve recommended for meta… it’s gonna be hard to beat resident evil 4 for me. I’m an old doom kinda guy I had doom on a 386 pc and have come all this way through every console… Meta is by far the best fps gaming I’ve ever played ❤ I don’t see me playing any console game anytime soon… 😂
I really tried to like this game, but the graphics are pretty bad and tracking is terrible so I keep missing the ball, especially when swinging outside of view. I've requested a refund already.
The ball cannot go through the racket, you just missed the ball, the tracking is perfect. Pay attention to the distance of the racket head and the timing of your shot
It’s not possible to scale the tennis court into your play space because when you move slightly your head to prepare the shot you are pushed for meters away
@@JasonStrom8 they don’t have some sort of motion sensor or gyro? (Not sure the word) but if you could map it like buddy said right here, this will be next level.
Just wondering if anyone here might know how bad it will get once the original quest is completely outdated. Currently im seeing i might run into issues with airlink and considering this is an "experimental" feature, im feeling and end soon. Any news at this point is appreciated.
@@zinodays1007 ya i got a quest 2 and i do enjoy it. But i have 2 boys that only really want to play when i am and if it gets completely outdated that means im gonna end up getting another 1 but there too expensive to keep doing that.
i have both and FPT is far superior compared to All In One Sports. Although even in arcade mode FPT is harder to get into, but once you can play Arcade it's a blast.
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I was a former high level tennis player in my youth and still hit up until COVID. After getting my quest 2, I was incredibly hyped after playing 11 table tennis and seeing what was possible, and first person tennis looked like exactly what I wanted.
I refunded this about half an hour or after playing.
The bottom line is, bounce physics of the ball are.... Okay to reasonable.
The racket collision physics are light years behind 11TT. I don't mean when people complain they miss the ball and it went though their racket, I mean applying spin and or force to the ball
In the current state of the game, there is no reasonably predictable way to put slice in your serve (I have a heavy slice kick server IRL, trying this in game had me simply hitting it straight down the wrong side of the court) I can't add back spin or slice my backhand or forehand, they simply result in a slower paced shot.
I think that topspin has been heavily prioritised, and that's simple enough to achieve however then comes the next problem. I try to hit a soft drop shot and I end up hitting banger out. Other times I put a full racket lag shot through and I get relatively mediocre paced shot output. I also feel like the placement is off. I hit a cross court shot, get one back and now try to place a straight winner down the line, time it.... And I get essentially another cross court shot.
I am not going to rate the gfx or sound that's whatever, that really doesn't worry me. Could look like superhot for all it matters.
But please get the physics right!
Decent game for people who have no idea how to play and just want some fun.
If you are an actual tennis player who plays above a social gathering whack around, and can place the ball with serves and shots at a good pace, this isn't your training or maintenance tool by any means.
I'll keep my eye on it and hope the devs work it to a polished state and I'll grab it again.
For the most part everything else was fine.
Cheers
Thanks dude, great to hear from someone else with a decent playing level - from your post I will more than likely have the same annoyances so will give this game a hard pass until its been updated
@@gladiatorscoops4907 no problems at all.
As I said, I really wanted this to be my go-to for tennis, as my regular partner dropped off and no longer hits, so I haven't been able to play for a year or so.
But the lack of control over ball delivery on the racket end is a deal breaker. Especially knowing how good 11TT does it, it's a shame. Also, when I had downloaded the game, apparently a big physics update had gone through just recently, so no idea if this made it better or worse.
Look, I think maybe give it a shot if you want you can always refund like I did. You may end up liking it enough to stick to it.
I wouldn't be as hard on this game, except for the fact that it's supposed to a Tennis simulator. "The Real Tennis Simulator" as it's quoted in the name.
Its a nice representation of the Tennis game, just not a Tennis Simulator.... Yet.
Version 4.0 is out with an improved physics
This got updated around a month or two ago. I never really played it for the same reasons as you. Since the update I can't stop playing... you can slice and on serves too, drop shot, and volley far better than you could before.
And an other game like Tennis League VR ?
Bought this yesterday love it the graphics not so much . The play is awesome though. I played as a kid and it feels like I I am really playing tennis.
Btw I think the speed you swing is slow because I notice if you go to kill with the knife on RE4 if you don’t umph a little it won’t cut it won’t kill kinda like forged in fire 🔥
A racket attachment for the controller makes this play 100x better
True
Does this exist?
@@kylelabelle9273 yes
@@JasonStrom8 where can I find it?
multiplayer on this is really fun
if you are struggling to find players go on EU servers
The teleportation system in multiplayer is slow at times some shots by the opponent is hard to hit because of that
You cannot pretend to reach every ball as in real life. Opponent (and you) can hit a winner
I play on my lawn outside, in simulation mode, with the controller attached to a real racket.
When I play against an Arcade Teleporter, and I guess 95% are, it sucks.
I play them a ball nobody could get, and suddenly, they jump close, but still to far to reach the ball.
And yet they hit it hard, across, in a straight line, fast as an arrow, which is impossible given the movement they show.
Tennis is all about reading the opponents movements...
Sometimes I manage to keep the ball in play, but it goes up high in a lob.
For some reason, they find it hard to hit a high ball falling to their feet.
And they complain I use trick shots!
In fact I never met a real player like in Eleven Table Tennis.
And because Eleven online is so fantastic, this game as an online game sucks.
@@tomsawyer2112 That is lag, use a different server or choose an opponent with low ping. When the ball goes up means that you hit it with the frame of the racket. You cannot compare tennis with ping pong, they are completely two different sport.
Great video 👍🏻
Is thus cross buy or would rift. Versión have to be brought as well?
Yes, it’s cross buy
is it possible to switch off auto run and play realistically?%i assume then you would require room space
Yes you can
@@JasonStrom8 can you use the thumstick to run?
@@LeGaLiZeDOOMz yes of course
This is a tennis simulator. Do you play in real life?
Hello
This doesn’t look good :( Seem to lack the precision needed for making good plays or is maybe too precise making every little move of a controller to change the ball’s direction :(
There is an arcade mode and a simulation mode
@@JasonStrom8 He WAS in arcade mode, yet still a ton of frustrating misses due to poor coding. The game NEEDS WORK and is not clear if there is any real work-around or fix for the very obvious issue seen in this review. I've already witnessed the author of this game deleting posts over on Steam complaining about the same issue of constant ball/racquet misses. I'd be curious to know if BMFVR ever finds a fix for this.
@@tikibird8053 arcade mode or simulation doesn’t matter he simply missed the ball. He is not a tennis player, it’s normal missing some ball. Tennis is hard. Just keep watching the ball while you hit the ball
@@JasonStrom8 You see, this is where you as the developer have clearly mistaken a real issue on your part with it being the fault of your customers who simply don't know how to play tennis and swing a racquet. If you'd only listen closer to some of your customers you might notice that some of them are serious tennis hobbyists in real life. Speaking from my own real life tennis experience of more than 25 years I can certainly say that while my expertise is not on a pro level that I am still well aware of good body positioning & racquet technique when it comes to my tennis swing... and this game will not allow me to do any of that in a similar way to what you'd do in real life.
Fact is, the only type player who'd likely not notice anything wrong here is someone who in fact doesn't understand good body positioning and swing technique. You insist that there is no tracking issue with the Quest2 so then one can only imagine the issue goes much deeper. Maybe take a look at your hit detection or ball/racquet physics.
@@tikibird8053 i listen customers since 2016, the first release of the game. There is no issue, you just miss the ball amd you can check it slowing down the video. When you realize that you can think about why you miss the ball. Different grip? Different timing? There are many reasons, i can help you to find it. Tennis is so technical, there is so much to learn.
4th graders make the games
You should play back your videos and pause it as the ball nears your racquet.
You would then see that you are swinging way too late....
2nd claim that the ball went through the racquet was actually the ball passing over the racquet....
BTW.. I found that if you look at the ball then the cameras see the controllers but if you look straight ahead and swing out of view then the Tracking is terrible...
I’m super prone to motion sickness but the only things in vr that make me sick is teleport movement/locomotion and going spinning around or upside-down
Then vr isn’t for you.
@@4fai6 not true, there are a lot of games that doesn't move the floor if you don't move yourself. These are ok for motion sickness.
i think it work better if you turned down the graphics while recording, alot of your problems seemed to be lag, and swinging too late
At 5:36 you clipped the ball and missed same for the second time, slowed down the vid to check, but it should have collision on the edges because you can in real life tennis clip the ball and get it to the other side
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That “missing” a shot drives me crazy. It doesn’t make sense.
My backhand was always doing like a small lob. But, if I swing the tennis racket with both hands, I can bring the shot down.
If you could send this video to Mikori Games, I would appreciate it. This must be a bug.
Checked the video, all missed balls are really missed
I think you might have a hole in your racket? I'll stick to my Nintendo tennis.
🤣
If you slow down the video you see that he missed the ball
Seriously though why would it automatically run for you?, that ruins half the fun of tennis. Having to react quickly and run to the ball
It has other movement options. The teleport version brings you close to the ball, as does the autorun. But I think he was playing arcade mode, which is quite forgiving on your shots staying in game. When you play simulation, the ball is faster and some shots you have to work hard to return with long stretching. Also with auto run, you can still move your man with the anologue stick, say to get to the net or whatever. Tennis is easy on arcade was winning the AL tournament 6-0 6-0. Simulation only won 3 matches out around 12 matches. It makes you work.
Your swings are pretty late...
I’m buying everything pretty much you’ve recommended for meta… it’s gonna be hard to beat resident evil 4 for me. I’m an old doom kinda guy I had doom on a 386 pc and have come all this way through every console… Meta is by far the best fps gaming I’ve ever played ❤ I don’t see me playing any console game anytime soon… 😂
I LOOOOOVVEEEE how you have verses from the Bible at random points in your videos🥰😇
First Person is very good
This guy has a video sponsored by a competitor. 🎉🎉🎉
Could be the game bro, but… you always seem to be really bad at sports games . 😀 and that’s ok 👍🏻
I really tried to like this game, but the graphics are pretty bad and tracking is terrible so I keep missing the ball, especially when swinging outside of view. I've requested a refund already.
The ball cannot go through the racket, you just missed the ball, the tracking is perfect. Pay attention to the distance of the racket head and the timing of your shot
Any links what I need to buy exactly??
Can you play online Edith my boyfriend
I brought yesterday is good fun ☺️
Theirs a hole in my racket lol
Your video's too late, it's been removed from the app lab for at least 4 days already. There goes our chance of trying a demo before buying, sigh.
The game has been for sale on AppLab for some time for full price.
@@BMFVRGaming My bad, I assumed it was free like many other apps there.
So you can't move freely? Without locomotion this game doesn't seem for me...
You can move freely if you want
@@JasonStrom8 yeah I learned you can so ill try that. Thanks!
Deserved loss...
Ouch.
Is First Person Tennis a one time purchase or do I pay monthly?
achat unique ;)
@@marilou2307 Thanks Thelma. I had to laugh though because I had to look up what your response meant in english. Have a great day. 😄😄
They should make it where you can map your surroundings so I can move freely as an option instead of teleport or auto-run
It’s not possible to scale the tennis court into your play space because when you move slightly your head to prepare the shot you are pushed for meters away
@@JasonStrom8 they don’t have some sort of motion sensor or gyro? (Not sure the word) but if you could map it like buddy said right here, this will be next level.
@@edgeprobability you can already do that
@@JasonStrom8 there are games that use like a 10meter space, so its possible to have a tennis court.
Just wondering if anyone here might know how bad it will get once the original quest is completely outdated. Currently im seeing i might run into issues with airlink and considering this is an "experimental" feature, im feeling and end soon. Any news at this point is appreciated.
I'd say in 8 to 12 months it will be done, a lot of developers are stopping support
@@zinodays1007 thank you for the info. It sucks but thanks.
@@sgtnoname2000 I upgraded to the q2 last November, was a sad day but now I'm glad I did
@@zinodays1007 ya i got a quest 2 and i do enjoy it. But i have 2 boys that only really want to play when i am and if it gets completely outdated that means im gonna end up getting another 1 but there too expensive to keep doing that.
@@sgtnoname2000 I feel ya
Can I play this without proof of vaccination?
I actually think the tennis on all in one sports is better, had so much fun on that one with my bro
Yes if you like a more arcade game
i have both and FPT is far superior compared to All In One Sports. Although even in arcade mode FPT is harder to get into, but once you can play Arcade it's a blast.
@@JasonStrom8 Literally EVERY other VR tennis game is better than this one. I play tennis IRL and this game is terrible- nothing like real tennis.
@@lmmetal8537 try the beta version
This looks harder than real tennis,🤣wii tennis on the original wii console is easier and more fun.
There is an arcade mode for new tennis players
First