SILKY Gomboy vs. improvised Bucksaw - which is the better one? - pros & cons - unexpected result 🤔

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  • In this video i make a woodsaw comparison between a SILKY Gomboy, a selfmade Bucksaw and a selfmade Bowsaw... with an unexpected result!!!🤔 I explain you the advantages and the disadvantages of the different models.
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  • @FelixImmler
    @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +8

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  • @45auto
    @45auto 3 роки тому +26

    I've never learned how to make an improvised saw. Looking forward to your take on how to make one.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +9

      Super..next week is a compulsory lesson for you. haaa ha haa!

    • @AdirondackAmerican
      @AdirondackAmerican 3 роки тому +4

      If you’re interested in learning bushcraft skills, check out bushcraft USA. There’s a whole section on bushclass. A lot of cool projects on there to learn all kinds of survival and bushcraft skills.

  • @sng2225
    @sng2225 3 роки тому +16

    Felix - This is exactly the comparison I was looking for and it was well done. If I could give you a five star like- I would. Please keep up the reviews.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +2

      Your feedback makes me happy. Thanks a lot!

  • @archivist17
    @archivist17 3 роки тому +7

    No one can say you don't work hard in your videos!
    Looking forward to the next couple of Fridays!

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you so much for your support!!!

  • @wildinthewild3704
    @wildinthewild3704 3 роки тому +20

    My conclusion is to keep my Silky and to try to build my own bowsaw :D

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +7

      Yess. that's the best way for sure!

    • @earthling01
      @earthling01 3 роки тому +3

      I agree entirely. Both have their practical advantages! Best to be in different environments, spend a few moments of time to find out for yourself!
      Thank you Felix always a pleasure watching you!

  • @maryfitchett9688
    @maryfitchett9688 3 роки тому +6

    YAY FELIX HIT 100K SUBS!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!

  • @RustyKnorr
    @RustyKnorr 3 роки тому +14

    Felix, in a situation where you absolutely must cut in those cramped situations, you can simply disconnect the bow or buck saw blade, put it over the log, and reconnect it facing upward. Not sure why you would need to make a cut like that, but it is possible with the larger saws, if that’s all you have.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +3

      Your are 100% right!

    • @archi-mendel
      @archi-mendel 3 роки тому +6

      You sometimes need to cut like this if both sides of the log are sitting on something and the middle part hangs in the air (like the one Felix has shown). When you start cutting, your blade gets stuck as log starts to bend down. Undercut helps to avoid blade from stucking in such case.

    • @hiddenwoodsben
      @hiddenwoodsben 3 роки тому +1

      @@archi-mendel i'll need to write that down, thanks!

  • @davidbenner2289
    @davidbenner2289 3 роки тому +1

    My kids would have used a naked saw blade and improvised crosscut or buck saw when we lived in the Highlands of West Virginia. I tried this with wife saws but found them of little use. I added folding saws with two wood bladed and one bone/fine blades and extra wing nut. This for small shoulder bags. In my larger backpack kits I include buck saws or bow saws. Always extra blades and attaching bolts and wing nuts (in case of loss). These are for my children and grandchildren now. On my farm as chikdren they would build cabins and forts. One son, 42 years old and an experienced and hardened combat veteran carries the saw blade in his belt. You two would get along well, he being inventive and of high level genius IQ.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Hello David. Thank you so much for your nice Story!

  • @paulhelberg5269
    @paulhelberg5269 3 роки тому

    The older I get, the less weight I can pack on a camping or hiking excursion. Any way to bring necessary tools and equipment that will make the trip more pleasant and easier is very welcome. I am ashamed that I never considered a bush craft bow saw using just a blade I brought from home. Wunderbar!

  • @TonyTooTuff
    @TonyTooTuff 3 роки тому +17

    I’m convinced you are a wizard.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +5

      Haa ha haa with a magic saw...

    • @TonyTooTuff
      @TonyTooTuff 3 роки тому +4

      @@FelixImmler you pulled out a saw made from sticks and string, then sawed through hardwood like butter. You know who does that? Wizards do! Magic I tell ya! 💫

  • @davidbutler1825
    @davidbutler1825 3 роки тому +6

    I appreciate your test! That was quite a cardio workout!!

  • @jamesbarisitz4794
    @jamesbarisitz4794 3 роки тому +4

    Having used all kinds of saws over the years, I lean towards the Silky Big Boy for straight level cuts. Bow and frame saws leave undesirable curved ends on the piece. For the ultimate in human powered cutting, the old logging style 2 man cross cut sharpened by hand filing is unbeatable for speed with a rough finish. Great study of cutting options Felix. ✌

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Hello james. Thank you so much for your interesting input!

    • @cloudraker100
      @cloudraker100 3 роки тому +1

      I have found the same. My woods saw is still the old triangle sven saw. Had 1 since 1990.

    • @jamesbarisitz4794
      @jamesbarisitz4794 3 роки тому

      @@cloudraker100 The loggers knew what works and companies listened. ✌

  • @WayPointSurvival
    @WayPointSurvival 3 роки тому +6

    Very cool comparison! Thank you for the demo and explanation! Edit: Congratulations on breaking 100K subs! I started watching and subscribed when you had 27K. Keep up the great work my friend!

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you very much brother! Thank you!!

  • @dragonbladestudios8061
    @dragonbladestudios8061 3 роки тому +3

    They compliment each other and well worth carrying both and I cant wait to watch your how to video as knowledge is vital in any survival situation nice one Felix.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +1

      I agree 100%. knowledge is vital in any survival situation!

  • @wiseowl151
    @wiseowl151 3 роки тому +5

    So cool, that after such a review, you propose us a new video to show us how you made your own tools. now i m sure i won't miss it!

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      That makes me happy ... thank you very much!

  • @holgermuller2987
    @holgermuller2987 3 роки тому

    Felix, you are our Wizzard!!
    No doubt any of your videos is a winner! You never running out of ideas. Keep the sunny side up and the videos coming. Cheers

  • @Far-North-Bushcraft-Survival
    @Far-North-Bushcraft-Survival 3 роки тому +10

    I was surprised at the efficiency of the short Silky here vs the long bow saw bladed saws. I know from experience that the Silky saws are excellent saws but I would have guessed that the length of the blades in the homemade saws would have made a bigger difference. So a competition between the long bladed homemade saws and a longer blade Silky ought to really show the difference. However, for the person on a tight budget, a Silky just may not be a reasonable choice.

    • @hiddenwoodsben
      @hiddenwoodsben 3 роки тому +1

      hey lonny! cool to see you here. i have a katanaboy 650 and a 30inch homemade bucksaw. the bucksaw wins easy on softwood, slightly on hardwoods and looses slightly on dry, aged oak, but that could just be me, ofc. a proper cpmparison with new blades for both wouldd certainly be interesting

    • @MrGreen-eb5tf
      @MrGreen-eb5tf 3 роки тому

      @@hiddenwoodsben can you do the comparison and upload it?

    • @Far-North-Bushcraft-Survival
      @Far-North-Bushcraft-Survival 3 роки тому +1

      @@hiddenwoodsben For me personally I find the Silky saws less strenuous to use over the old bow or buck saws. The bow/buck saws tend to wear me out faster.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +1

      Hello Lonnie. I 100% agree with your feedback. Thanks a lot!

  • @paulco4145
    @paulco4145 3 роки тому +2

    Your videos are the best! Thank you for all your work!

  • @freethinker5225
    @freethinker5225 Рік тому +1

    I'm from the deep woods of Maine (the pine tree state) and I've used every saw you can think of. Silky big boy is the best bang for your buck. I've had mine for 3 years and it gets ALOT of use, never had to sharpen or repair/replace. If you want efficient you have to get a bigger saw as it ONLY cuts on the pull. Alot of people think they need to apply pressure and go fast to cut faster but that is the wrong way to use it

  • @nicolanicola1067
    @nicolanicola1067 3 роки тому +1

    Sei sempre il migliore Felix! Adoro i tuoi test comparativi! Mostracene tanti altri!!!

  • @jurgenstoll2394
    @jurgenstoll2394 3 роки тому +3

    Great video, as always.
    Another big advantage of the buck-/bowsaw: You can use it with two people. This will speed up your sawing dramatically.
    Don't try to resharpen the blade of a buck-/bow-saw. These blades nowadays have normally extremely hardened teeth to ensure a long livetime of the sharpness. On the downside this means that you cant sharpen it by hand without ruining your files.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Thanks for the super interesting infos!

  • @pnyarrow
    @pnyarrow 3 роки тому

    Hi Felix. Danke noceinmal fürs Hint & Tips und 'Pros and cons'. Bleib gesund LG wie immer. Nigel

  • @JoseRamirez-vm7bo
    @JoseRamirez-vm7bo 3 роки тому

    You teach very great knowledge to use the swiss army knife I like to learn swiss knife I always trust I always take it everywhere I go and you won't be leave but but it save my life thank you for teaching how to use a swiss army knife

  • @lino5167
    @lino5167 3 роки тому

    Great video as always. One of the most knowledgeable outdoorsmen here in UA-cam.
    Congratulations Mr Immler.

  • @henrikknutsson4824
    @henrikknutsson4824 3 роки тому

    Great comparison, always looking forward to fridays ✌️😊

  • @PhilEvansOnline
    @PhilEvansOnline 3 роки тому +1

    The Silky saw cuts wood fast and flesh even faster. I have had more cuts from a Silky saw than any other tool that I own. Great video, thanks for sharing.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Hello Phil. Thanks for your interesting feedback!

  • @davebrown3117
    @davebrown3117 3 роки тому

    Hi Felix, the blades in your buck/bow saws are actually for cutting green/living wood, you can tell because of the "siamesed" teeth that are actually "raker" teeth to clean out the sappy saw dust when cutting through living wood. Dry wood cutting blades don't have the raker teeth so they cut through dry wood faster than the other blade.
    I have a Silky Saw Gomboy 300 with a medium tooth straight edge blade, it is great for camping, etc. I have also used it for its real purpose - trimming trees! It is a pruning saw after all! Works like a treat.

  • @QuantumPyrite_88.9
    @QuantumPyrite_88.9 3 роки тому +13

    If you want a free silky saw , It got tossed into the Snake River in Idaho USA . Sandvik bow saws with spare blades rule and having a hacksaw blade is one of the spare blades .
    Thumbs up and All the Best to Mr. Immler .

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +4

      Thanks a lot for your nice feedback brother!

  • @will.scotnativeingreece
    @will.scotnativeingreece 3 роки тому +2

    Hi Felix, great content! 2 days ago i had to cut down a dangerous pine in my garden, i decided to cut off many branches before i felled the tree, I used every type you used to cut the branches as you pointed out you can only use the one that suits the space or location, fortunately my tool shed was only metres away. best regards Will.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Hello Will. Thank you so much for your interesting comment!!!

  • @Waldhandwerk
    @Waldhandwerk 3 роки тому +1

    Cooler Vergleich und toll gebaute Säge(n) lieber Felix! Klasse!

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +1

      Herzlichen Dank mein lieber Freund!!! Ich wünsche Dir einen tollen Wochenstart!

  • @iainb1577
    @iainb1577 3 роки тому +2

    I always carry a junior hacksaw blade in my most lightweight kit. It can be used to make it's own handle, which with a peice of surgical tape or string makes a great little pull saw.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +1

      Yes... thats a valuable hint! Thanks a lot

    • @iainb1577
      @iainb1577 3 роки тому

      @@FelixImmler Thank you.

  • @anthonybarra2391
    @anthonybarra2391 3 роки тому

    I wish I was in the scouts when you were the leader. Great video, relaxing and informative.i work a lot with tools and I agree with you but well explained and gives an option to every budget. Thank you Felix you man

  • @RatdogDRB
    @RatdogDRB 3 роки тому +1

    There's need for both types of saw, and I'm pleased to have both for their individual needs.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Super! Thanks for your feedback!

  • @davidbutler1825
    @davidbutler1825 3 роки тому +1

    I recently bought the Silky Big Boy--it is only differs slightly in size and weight, but really works fast!!

  • @Mike-kr9ys
    @Mike-kr9ys 3 роки тому

    I thought for sure that your jacket would be off by the time you got to the 3rd saw! Must be cooler there than I thought. Excellent comparison test - thank you for doing that for us!

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Hello Michael. Thanks for this super nice comment!

  • @breaking_bear
    @breaking_bear 3 роки тому

    Great video! Though, you might get some pushback from fans of the silky. I used mine for 6months to procure firewood between Arizona and the Pacific Northwest. To this day, the same blade still cuts almost the same as the day I bought it. You cannot say that about your bucksaw blade. The high quality Japanese steel Silky has bent on occasion when jamming it, but I have bent it right back immediately. And it bent back the way it originally was and you cannot tell it ever was bent. Also, there are several different blades for the silky saws. Some are more aggressive and you have not tried the more aggressive blades yet. I respect your opinions and experience. Thank you and I look forward to seeing your tutorial on the buck saws! God bless you brother.

  • @Dennis-br5cq
    @Dennis-br5cq 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Felix, wieder ein super Video 🙏👌ich freue mich jetzt schon auf das nächste Video... dann werde ich mir mit Sicherheit auch eine nachbauen ...Natürlich mit meinem Victorinox Taschenmesser 😁👍
    .
    Ach ja und herzlichen Glückwunsch zur 100k😅🙏

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +1

      Vielen dank lieber Dennis!!!!

  • @johnearhart8811
    @johnearhart8811 3 роки тому +1

    Learn so much watching your videos. Thanks so much

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      You are so welcome! Thanks a lot John!!

  • @hortensialopez9296
    @hortensialopez9296 3 роки тому

    I have in a car boot a silky. Thanks Felix for comparative proyect

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Thanks a lot for your comment!

  • @davidkurle5418
    @davidkurle5418 3 роки тому

    Felix this video was awesome. Thank you, my friend!

  • @arctodussimus6198
    @arctodussimus6198 3 роки тому +2

    Very good video and demonstration.
    I love my Silky Gomboy (with the curved blade).
    I see the advantages of both.
    In my mind, there is no reason to limit yourself to just one style.
    Why not carry both?
    You can use the Silky to fashion the brace for the other saw blade. That way you can process large wood, and make precise cuts as well. Saving the SAK for even more precise work.

  • @BUZZKILLJRJR
    @BUZZKILLJRJR Рік тому

    #1 , The silky can be used to scrape fine material on its spine and a ferro rod.
    #2 fits in pocket with no work to start cutting those. seem like two advantages 8) awesome videos brother! I love to learn and see the perspective of creative skilled people like you. It makes my imagination work more like when i was a child so inventive and fun! Take care Felix!

  • @GravityRoller
    @GravityRoller 3 роки тому +1

    GREAT Video!
    RE: Cut Time Comparisons
    Disclosure: I run a bow saw in my kit.
    From a true comparison perspective, I would say test parameters were unfair in that the Silky saw used has significantly shorter blade/stroke length. A more equal length blade comparison would be using BigBoy 2000 (I think 14" blade still shorter than the bow blades used, but a somewhat closer stroke length), Sugoi, Zubat, etc.. I would expect the outcome would be reversed, provided blade length specification were closer to being equal in comparison.
    I have used back-to-back Silky Sugoi and bow saw of slightly longer length, and can say definitively that the Silky Sugoi cut much faster and more aggressively. Additionally, the ability to get into tighter spaces (stands of Vine Maple example) is where the arborist saws (Silky pull saws, etc.) really shine.
    I still choose the bow saw however in my kit, for ease of carrying multiple saw tooth profiles for varied applications.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Thanks a lot for your feedback.
      You are right, no doubt. But I also said that in the video.
      Greetings from Switzerland

    • @GravityRoller
      @GravityRoller 3 роки тому

      @@FelixImmler My apologies. Even though I was specifically listening for it, I did not hear you mention anything about the significantly different length of the blades, and resultant cut strokes, you were comparing.

  • @lucas-iu4oj
    @lucas-iu4oj 3 роки тому +2

    Man Felix....immer wieder geil was du alles bastelst! Danke für deine Anregungen u schönes Wochenende

  • @daninmi1648
    @daninmi1648 3 роки тому +1

    The improvised saws are great, but I would see about using a bolt and nut to secure the blade. I agree with a commenter who preceded me: Silky or similar for making the saw frame and working in tight spaces, Victorinox saw for fine work and extremely tight spaces, improvised saw for everything else. Would like to see how the buck saw performs when two people are sawing, too!

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +1

      In two weeks i show how i build my bucksaw's. I show you the secret how to build a suuuper stable bucksaw.

    • @daninmi1648
      @daninmi1648 3 роки тому

      @@FelixImmler Awesome. Keep up the excellent work!

  • @EricKaiserMarburg
    @EricKaiserMarburg 3 роки тому +1

    Hallo Felix,
    das hast Du sehr schön zusammengefasst.
    Bei den Pfadis haben wir auch große Bügelsägen.
    Ne Klappsäge ist für mich wie eine große Version der Säge vom Schweizer Messer. Ich habe eine in fein und eine in grob und die grobe ist schon 20 Jahre alt und schneidet noch wie Gift jeden bushcraft üblichen Ast durch. So schone ich die Säge vom SAK ein wenig und die Klappsäge in schnell im Rucksack und im Wald einsatzbereit.
    Für ne lange Tour ist so ein Sägeblatt auf JEDEN Fall eine Superidee als Notfallsetup.
    VG Eric.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Das sehe ich genau so... Danke für deine Kommentar! Liebe Grüsse
      Felix

  • @gregkahle9046
    @gregkahle9046 3 роки тому

    Excellent comparison, thanks Felix! Some of the larger Silky saws look awesome.

  • @invictus3598
    @invictus3598 3 роки тому

    Excellent video! I definitely think the handmade bow and buck saws have the advantage of repairability and durability. But, the Silky offers convenience, light weight, and packability. It really depends on your preference and priorities. If your Silky breaks, then can you improvise. In the alternative, you can carry both without a significant weight penalty. Thank you!

  • @rozilmer
    @rozilmer 3 роки тому +1

    As always great work Felix. I just like to mention, fiskars does two folding or better sliding saws in 16 and 25cm. Even if the locking mechanism is a little bit weak, they are really cutting great. And they are a lot cheaper then the Silky and seem to have no weight at all. Mine helps me in the garden and provided a lot of firewood on our many trips through the swedish woods. No one in the comunity ever talks about them , it is always silky or bahco. I think they are worth to give them a try.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Thanks a lot for your interesting tip!!!!

  • @margaretalena
    @margaretalena 2 роки тому +1

    I was very skeptical of the Silky saw because as you said it's expensive for what it is used for. That's what I thought until I bought one 6 years ago. After literally cutting many chords of wood with it and brush, I have to say it the best saw I have ever used. I'm sure my great grand father to my dad would have paid the price to own one of theses saws.
    I see the advantage of both. If I could only have one in a ShTF I would cry, but I would have to go with the bow saw. I have several and I can sharpen a bow saw blade. That's the only reason I would choose a bow saw. I care two blades all the time even when I use the silky saw. I have the Gomboy soon to be buying the large silky pro 350 mm. I think it will help out around the property much better and just use the Gomboy for camping chores.
    I don't do bushcraft. I just live. I already live 15 miles from my nearest neighborhood. Nothing but woods where I live. I'm retire but still work at home to stay busy. I sewed for a living. I make clothes of all kinds and bags. Once in a while I knit and crochet. Not often anymore. But I go camping a fish on weekends. That's what I do for enjoyment. Just me and my Belgian Malinois. She loves it too. Her hoppy is chasing squirrels or rabbits. Sometimes she shares😂

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much for your interesting feedback! You are right! Greetings from Switzerland
      Felix

    • @margaretalena
      @margaretalena 2 роки тому

      @@FelixImmler greetings from Texas USA see ya'll😁

  • @gizmocarr3093
    @gizmocarr3093 3 роки тому +1

    Something you can add to your saw ideas and collection of saws is just buying a replacement blade for a folding saw. Making a handle only requires adding a wing nut some flat washers and proper size stove bolt. The pack model Wyoming saw is one I used for a long time. It has both wood and meat cutting blades and is very sturdy. Reciprocating saw blades come in all lengths and tooth designs; it only takes minutes to make a handle with a nail and hatchet. For $20 dollars you get a pack of five. I have used Estwing hammers, carpenter hatchets and camp axes of all designs. They hold a sharp edge and cost far less than fancy branded models. I know from experience you need both if you spend much time in the forest. Saws get pinched in wood sooner than later. Getting a chainsaw loose makes the axe still an important tool to have. If you ever tried cutting dead or dry Locust, Oak, Maple, Ironwood and hemlock you need a saw made for cutting steel. A sharp axe bounces off this wood like a rubber hammer. It makes sparks fly from a chainsaw chain too.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +1

      Hello Gizmo. Thanks a lot for your super interesting feedback!

  • @jchapman60
    @jchapman60 3 роки тому

    Excellent video Felix! Because of all the youtuber videos I've observed, I decided to buy Silky saws as Christmas gifts For sons and son-in-laws, including one for myself! That was 8 saws, and I got a super deal from a Japanese dealer! As you said, there's many factors on how fast they cut, so the teeth per inch is very important! Mine has served me well!

  • @concretecowboy4212
    @concretecowboy4212 3 роки тому +1

    Thnxs so much 4 doing this comparison ❗

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Thanks a lot for your kind comment!

  • @callmasiseemindeed8207
    @callmasiseemindeed8207 3 роки тому +1

    Another advantage of the Silky and a lot of other folding saws, they throw great sparks with a ferro rod.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Great point! Greetings from Switzerland

    • @callmasiseemindeed8207
      @callmasiseemindeed8207 3 роки тому

      Greetings from the US. I'm glad I found your channel or vise versa maybe, eh? I must tell you,, I tried your rag sharpening method with axes/hatchet on a new one I got awhile ago. Excellent method! I am a convert. Thank you for sharing all your great knowledge.

  • @mikecurtis2585
    @mikecurtis2585 3 роки тому +2

    Nice good information. Thanks 😊!!

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Hello Mike. Thanks for your feedback!

  • @irondoger
    @irondoger 3 роки тому +1

    I really like your honesty 🙏
    And fun content.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      I appreciate that! Thanks a lot

  • @hiddenwoodsben
    @hiddenwoodsben 3 роки тому +1

    Grüetzi Felix! I just got to your channel a few days ago and had to sent over by TAoutdoors - which is a shame, given that i grew up just over *the River* from you.
    In these few days and probably two dozen vids or so i've watched i can say, that you rekindled my forgotten love for the SAK and i already ordered a new one plus more or less everything tortoise-gear produces for them.
    Please stay healthy, happy and overall saugut!
    p.s.: isn't it funny that the old Sackmesser is called SA(c)K in english? Pity our anglophone friends can't appreciate it!

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +1

      Haaaa ha haaa, danke für deinen lustigen Kommentar! Liebe Grüsse...

  • @ljbbushcraft6640
    @ljbbushcraft6640 3 роки тому

    Great comparison Felix. I look forward to the follow up videos 👍🔥👍😀

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Thanks for your kind comment!! 👍

  • @lewiemcneely9143
    @lewiemcneely9143 3 роки тому

    Thanks, Felix and years ago I bought my son a Stihl foldable saw a little smaller that your Silky. It had a very aggressive tooth pattern. I'm pretty sure he's still using it. Sop thanks much and GBWYou!

  • @johnpetry6753
    @johnpetry6753 3 роки тому +2

    I believe that Silky and Bacho type saws can be sharpened. Lay them flat on fine sand paper and push away from the teeth. Sort of like stropping but the entire flat must make contact.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Yes... like this? ua-cam.com/video/6vtErh2IZwI/v-deo.html

  • @robman247
    @robman247 3 роки тому +1

    Nice show and tell video 🎥👏 on the saws you got got some good videos out thanks for sharing your knowledge 🧠 👍👌✌️🇺🇸

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Hello Robert. Thanks a lot for watching my videos!

  • @rldickie
    @rldickie 3 роки тому

    I got a Fiskar's gardening saw last summer. Blade slides lengthwise in and out of the handle. Cuts way better than the store brand folding saws.

  • @wayne-oo
    @wayne-oo 3 роки тому +2

    Well thought out comparison !

  • @oecher_boeschcraft
    @oecher_boeschcraft 3 роки тому +1

    Nice comparison, thank you. I like the more flexible and faster Option...and in my opinion you can save money with the collapsible saw as well and get a good one like the laplander.
    In future i like/ hope to try a boreal collapsible saw.
    Herzlichen Glückwunsch zu 100.000 Abonnenten 👍🏼

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Very true! Vielen Dank für die Gratulation!

  • @Ozarkwonderer
    @Ozarkwonderer 3 роки тому

    It comes down to wat your doing. I have a baco folder ive used for years. Great for easy carry and cutting staves for bows. But id never use it to cut lumber for a cabin.
    A buck saw is a work horse and definitely a need around long term settlement and camp.
    Looking forward to the buck saw build.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Thanks a lot for your interesting feedback!

  • @ffaubert1
    @ffaubert1 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks Felix! As luck would have it, I'm trying to build a frame saw at the moment. I used some dimensional spruce. It didn't work well so I'm totally up for the next video.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +3

      The framesaw i show in two weeks. next week is the Bowsaw topic.

  • @tenchraven
    @tenchraven 3 роки тому

    Another advantage of the bowsaw blade. Find yourself a block of wood that fits your hand well and is a third to half the length of the blade. Drill a hole in it at one end, then use the saw blade (or a table saw) and cut a groove in the handle. If you do it right, you can put the blade in the grove (teeth facing the wood for safety), and drop a bolt through that hole and through the hole in the blade. You can shape the handle as you wish, and for extra security whip it with cord. Maybe add another hole for a second bolt- see where I'm going yet? That handle can also have the arch cut in it that you'll use when bulding the bucksaw, so it becomes part of the frame. Heat up and squish a piece of PVC to serve as a cover for the rest of the blade, maybe with a hacksaw blade taped to that.
    So it goes from a short straight saw (like the Silky) to a bucksaw. And if you do it right*, you can even have the intermediate form of a triangular "bow" saw with a little bracing with a found piece that has a fork, that you lash the handle against. Use that to get shelter up, then if you got your dimensions right, the piece you cut with the straight saw to be the third piece of the bow rotates and becomes the brace of the buck saw, and your jute cord tensions it the top, and you start cutting firewood.
    Of course, you might put a 21" or 24" (53 to 71cm) blade on the handle in your pack, then when you have two people, the other person carries the 36" (92cm) in the cook pot. The two person rig isn't really any harder to improvise, just takes some practice, so maybe carry a spare blade. :P Of course, at that point... You can carry one handle with a 14" blade folded into the handle without needing a sheath, unfold it to cut the rest of the parts (using one bolt through the mounting hole, the other in that second hole I mentioned so it is between two teeth to lock it open), then put in the 36" blade when you have all the parts. And alternatively, you can use a length of PVC to hold several 36" blades if you have more than two people.
    No... never done this before at all.... :P But in all fairness, *I don't always get that part quite right and need another forked piece.

  • @lookoutpath6520
    @lookoutpath6520 3 роки тому +1

    Cool comparison! I like the Ichiban Samurai saws, blades & precision like silky but a pistol grip handle for Western ergonomics & feel & more reasonable $$ 👍👍

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Thanks a lot for your super important feedback!

  • @ElizabethGreene
    @ElizabethGreene 3 роки тому

    The best thing about a silky or laplander saw is that, folded up, it doesn't stab everything in your bag. The little safety covers on bow saws are amazingly good at popping off when something expensive is in the bag.

  • @jimf1964
    @jimf1964 3 роки тому

    Since the Silky is an arborists tool, it's easier for reaching up and cutting branches. Also a pull saw isn't just more efficient, but if you have a lot to cut, it's much less tiring to pull with your larger back muscles. The folding saw like that is also popular here for people doing canoe trips, where trail maintenance is common. You can just pull it out of your pocket while portaging. However, I use a small, aluminium frame buck saw. It was much cheaper than a Silky, and probably lighter, but I don't know which I'll get for my next one.

  • @willikebari5478
    @willikebari5478 3 роки тому

    Ein sehr interessanter Vergleich! Danke für's Zeigen und LG aus Oberösterreich!

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +1

      das freut mich. danke lieber Willi!

  • @samueldougoud3289
    @samueldougoud3289 3 роки тому

    Excellent video once again. For me the superior ergonomy of the buck saw makes the decision. For smaller jobs a billhook (Gertel) is fine !

  • @ernstandersen979
    @ernstandersen979 3 роки тому +1

    As always,a great video 👌👍I love making my own gear,and love cheap solutions 😄

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +1

      Couldn't agree more! Thanks a lot Ernst!

  • @TheSaneHatter
    @TheSaneHatter 3 роки тому

    When it becomes feasible to buy & test them, I'd love to hear your opinions on the larger forms of folding saw, such as the Silky BigBoy, the Boreal 21, or Bob Dustrude, as a follow-up to this video.

  • @stuartlockwood9645
    @stuartlockwood9645 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Felix☺ great video mate, on cost alone i go whith the bow saw, although the folding saw concept is space saving. It looked like you were using a Raker toothed blade in your bow saw which cuts faster on green wood, a peg tooth blade would have been advantageous on that dry beech, and peg tooth is what's in my Sandvik saw all the time,as it works pretty well on green wood and dry. I am looking forward to the video on building a stick frame saw, many thanks, stay safe mate, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart.uk.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Hello Stuart. Thanks a lot for your super interesting feedback!!

  • @indyoutsider
    @indyoutsider 3 роки тому

    Thanks man I always appreciate your videos. Thank you bro.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Thats a lot for your feedback!

  • @micha5645
    @micha5645 3 роки тому +1

    Hallo Felix, für unterwegs und zur Baumpflege benutze ich schon seit Jahren eine Felco Klappsäge und für den stationären Einsatz eine Bügelsäge. Die Idee, so eine Survivalsäge herzustellen, finde ich schon genial! LG Micha

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Danke Micha. Ich habe auch eine Felco Klappsäge. Ich habe das Gefühl, dass die genau so gut sind wie die Silkys...

  • @woodchild48
    @woodchild48 3 роки тому +1

    Danke für das gute Vergleichsvideo. Ich habe auch eine Silky Gomboy und schon zwei Sägeblätter verbogen. In der Landi hab ich eine ähnliche Säge für CHF 8.- gefunden und schon paar mal benutzt. Ich bin erstaunt, die ist fast so gut wie die Silky.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Haaa haa haaaa, das im Video sind Landi -Sägeblätter!!

  • @williamfoster9024
    @williamfoster9024 3 роки тому

    Thank you mr.felic ! You the best for to teach us. Ok by.

  • @shermanhofacker4428
    @shermanhofacker4428 3 роки тому

    The saw blades available vary tremendously. Some resemble hack saw, some have very coarse teeth, and my favorite has a combination of cutters and drags like a good quality two man crosscut.

  • @MichaelR58
    @MichaelR58 2 роки тому +1

    Felix ,good video , thanks for sharing ,God bless !

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching dear Michael!

  • @mywrkout1
    @mywrkout1 3 роки тому

    Really great comparison and information on the pros and cons of each. Thank you so much Felix, I'm a new subscriber and love your channel.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Hello Martin! Thanks for the sub!

  • @svenst5
    @svenst5 3 роки тому +1

    Hallo,
    Klasse, dass mal gezeigt wird, dass es nicht immer der moderne high end Kram sein muss, sondern sehr gute und bewährte Alternativen gibt.
    Einen Vorteil haben die klassischen Bügel- oder Gestellsäge auch noch.
    Man kann sie prima und problemlos mit natürlichen Materialien bauen/herstellen kann.
    Und wenn man etwas geschick besitzt, braucht man nur das Sägeblatt um die komplette säge herzustellen.
    Wäre klasse, wenn du dass auch so zeigen könntest, denn so eine säge kann ein sehr gutes survival Tool sein.
    Habe mal gehört, dass Soldaten eine im Gürtel dabei hatten und eben zu diesem Zweck.
    Ob es stimmt kann ich leider nicht sagen aber es wäre nicht verwunderlich.
    Also mach weiter so
    Immer wieder klasse
    Gruß aus Berlin

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Hallo Sven. Dein Kommentar ist sehr interessant. Danke!

  • @BCJerbs
    @BCJerbs 3 роки тому +1

    I want to get my first Swiss army knife...I've watched your channel and subscribed a while back just because your always doing something epic with them...so what would you suggest for my first Swiss army knife? I look forward to hearing back from you when you get a moment. Cheers, Jerbs

  • @dennislindenpellinge
    @dennislindenpellinge 3 роки тому +1

    Alle Werkzeuge haben ihren richtigen Platz in der richtigen Situation. Ich selbst benutze verschiedene Arten von Sägen. Ich habe noch keine eigene Säge gebaut. Ist wahrscheinlich ein großer "Fan" von Silky Saws. Danke für ein interessantes Video!

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Hallo Dennis. Danke für deinen interessanten Kommentar!!

  • @james_lessick892
    @james_lessick892 3 роки тому

    I really like you're video. Thank you.

  • @maxlvledc
    @maxlvledc 3 роки тому +1

    another awesome video!

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! Greetings from Switzerland

  • @Estereos
    @Estereos 2 роки тому

    I love Silky! BTW, there are many different models, sizes and handles to choose from. 2. you can also take only the blade with you, (blade is detachable) and build a handle you want from the wood sticks you find. 3. Silky is not just only more convenient than any western style saw, it is also 2-3 times faster with any wood and it makes super clear cuts. 4. I had never Silky blade bent or broke on me.5. Silky has curved blades which are even more efficient with green wood. Truth is that you don't need any other tool for cutting wood in the wild if you have Silky. Pocket size Silky has 4(!) different types of blades to choose from, each more suitable for different jobs and you can use it as a knife in many situations. The only disadvantage I may possibly talk about is that you have to forget all you know about western saws and learn the proper technique of using pool-saws.

  • @josercarlucci
    @josercarlucci 3 роки тому

    Magnificent bush saws Felix, you are "the guy". Congratulations and thanks for the video!
    P. S. Even in the meltdown, your country is so beautiful!

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +1

      Hello Jose! Thank you very much for your kind comment and for your valuable support since years!!!

  • @Veldvaardigheden
    @Veldvaardigheden 3 роки тому

    Very nice insight Felix ! I like the convience of a silky but I consider the 3 euro saw blade now . Thanks and take care Greeetsss Martin.

  • @chiefkirk
    @chiefkirk 3 роки тому +1

    Good job Felix.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much my friend!!

  • @lisuk66
    @lisuk66 3 роки тому +1

    👋🇧🇾✌️Thank's again, Wonderful Mr VixMan 😉!!!

  • @janrobertbos
    @janrobertbos 3 роки тому +1

    ........und wieder eine sehr empfehlungswerte Video........Grüsse aus die Niederlande!!!

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Erg bedankt!! 😂

    • @janrobertbos
      @janrobertbos 3 роки тому

      Wow, Holländisch, man bemerkt dass Sie mit Smooth gefixt zusammen gearbeitet haben.......lollol..................

  • @outdoorwoodchipps3107
    @outdoorwoodchipps3107 3 роки тому

    Good comparison. One more reason to work on an improvised Hack saw.

  • @einufo
    @einufo 3 роки тому +1

    Hallo Felix, der Vergleich war schon gut. Ich hätte nicht erwartet, dass die Silky mit dem viel kürzeren Blatt und der feineren Zahnung so gut mit den beiden Selfmadesägen mithält.
    Ich selbst habe eine Silky, habe auch schon die Spitze eines Blattes abgebrochen (wenn man sich ungeschickt genug anstellt, geht das!). War aber eine gute Gelegenheit, ein Ersatzblatt mit grober Zahnung zu kaufen (Silky Europe hat einen super Service!). Eine Faltsäge besitze ich, um beim Paddeln querliegenden Windbruch zu "kürzen", da brauche ich eine handliche , sofort benutzbare Säge.
    Gruß Tino
    Hello Felix, the comparison was good. I didn't expect the Silky, with its much shorter blade and finer teeth, to keep up so well with the two self-made saws.
    I have a Silky myself and have already broken off the tip of a blade (if you are clumsy enough, it works!). But it was a good opportunity to buy a replacement blade with coarse teeth (Silky Europe has great service!). I have a folding saw in order to "shorten" blown down trees when paddling, so I need a handy saw that can be used immediately.
    Greetings Tino

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Hallo Tino. Dank für deinen sehr interessanten Kommentar!!

  • @BCVS777
    @BCVS777 3 роки тому

    Great video! If I could only take one wood processing tool to the woods it would be an ax but a close second would be a silky big boy. For survival prep the bowsaw blade is good because of its packability and versatility.

  • @archi-mendel
    @archi-mendel 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Felix, that's a nice video. My choice is Silky BigBoy 360. Yes, it weighs around 500 gramm, so not the most ultra light option, but it cuts comfortably through the wood up to 20 cm thick and can cut up to 30 cm (with much more efforts). I have even made a winter night-long fire (three logs fire) with it spending a night next to fire at around -10C. Also, it has thicker blade than GomBoy or PocketBoy, which makes it much more robust.
    Still, I am probably going to make my first bowsaw and bucksaw this summer just out of curiosity :)

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      hello Stanislav. Thanks a lot for your interesting comment!

  • @Kenbur
    @Kenbur 3 роки тому +1

    very interesting. as a kid, we made our own saws with a blade from grandpa's shed and some rags or hunks of wood and twine. I love the challenge and am thinking there must be a way to make an adjustable saw from just a blade and a branch that would allow you to get into tight spots AND be able to use both push and pull. hmmmmmmm Any way Felix thanks for the video and demonstration.

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому

      Hello Ken. humanity goes to Mars and drops a car there. to realize your idea must be possible!

  • @jmknives
    @jmknives 3 роки тому +1

    Er kam, sah und sägte... oder so ähnlich🙄😉.
    Sehr gutes Video. Du hast viele Pros und Contras angesprochen.
    Danke fürs Zeigen👍.
    Was hältst du von den Handkettensägen?
    Also die etwas besseren... nicht die Dinger aus den Survival Sets.
    Finde ich auch sehr interessant in punkto Platzersparnis und sofortiger Verfügbarkeit.
    Liebe Grüße
    Joe

    • @FelixImmler
      @FelixImmler  3 роки тому +1

      Hallo Joe. Danke für deinen Kommentar. Ich habe noch nie eine Handkettensäge ausprobiert....sorry.

    • @jmknives
      @jmknives 3 роки тому

      @@FelixImmler Ich bisher auch nur die aus den billigen Survival Sets. Die sind eine Katastrophe.

  • @randybradley7427
    @randybradley7427 3 роки тому

    They both have their place. Bucking up wood with out limbs bucks as is the winner. The big silky saw is $250- $300. That's a lot of money. If going to spend that much use a chainsaw. Even buying the big bow saw and extra blade or two a lot cheaper than silky. Great video an a eye opener