This is such a nice breakdown, I started to figure out doubles on my own but didn't have enough experience to know the proper way of doing it. Huge help thanks!!!
Your hot cues method is what I’ve been looking for a while now, I went and tried it as soon as I finished watching the video and my transitions were so smooth, thanks so much man
TIME STAMPS (watch full video to fully understand my process) 2:14 Rules of Doubling 6:42 How I setup my tracks in Rekordbox 9:24 Live Stream Demo 12:19 Full Breakdown with hand cam and stream
I see lots of dudes doubling with their lows both up. And even now after all of this time people still talk mad shit in sync but I utilize it a lot when I’m doing routines live! It really does help.
sync is the only way for doubles/triples/quads imo because if a kick transient is slightly off the whole thing is ruined (which is why i analyze all my tracks in rekordbox as well). no one cares about sync that's actually successful in the scene its just the people that want to project on others and make it seem like they are superior at doing a task. I asked protohype in an upcoming video what he thought and he said he could care less who uses it. your job is to entertain your crowd and you do that how you seem fit :)
More than likely. but if you plan your sets out with markers and cue points you can see everything you need to visually. so they could just be doing that@@stem7141
I'm a techno and house DJ and I have to say, mixing dubstep can be a challenge depending on the artist, subtronics seems to be one of the easiest to mix where artists that go all over the place like Nero are a super challenge. Excision isn't too bad but he doesn't have a ton of double drops in his songs and doesn't leave a ton of spacing, basically any dubstep artist who leaves a ton of spacing are the easiest to mix. Mixing is important as well making your own "VIPS" of sorts not this one after another stuff people seem to only be able to do because dubstep in general is just so chaotic.
just listened to "my name is skrillex yesterday" for the first time in years, makes me remember how much I used to love dubstep, (even thought that kinda felt like midtempo) Anyways keep it up dude! those gains are getting out of control XD
This video is gold I've watched it around 6 times and stuff keeps clicking in every rewatch thank you very much man 🙏🙏🙏 I wish you had more videos on mixing
Holy shit, this actually opened my brain on how to improve my dj skills! Like my shit is so basic with transitions and thats SUCH a badass and creative way to make EVERYTHING more interesting!!!! Holy hell i have alot of work to do, a million times thank you!!! Would you be able to make a vid or respond on how you transition out songs????
Good stuff, over been DJing for 28 years, I still please bass and tech house, other genres as well. Although I don't play this genre, I still do a lot of doubling, but I'm usually leaving both tracks fully eqd and chipping back and forth, I see why with the l this genre you do what you do. It gives me lots of great ideas for my bass house mixes. Love seeing the over the top view, you can tell you know your equipment and when to eq and use the faders. Top notch
such a gr8 breakdiwn 4 sure. Great visuals with mixer and track phrases...i usally have both subs on even one at 9 oclock, one at 12 oclock and chop as required.
If your chopping I would say full sub is optimal. But as soon as you double I would highly recommend just having whatever your front track is to have the sub. This really only matters at clubs and festivals where the system can clip and damage the equipment. Virtually who cares have fun 😎
I am just starting up on Dubstep and what I call the Broken Beat Genres. Most of what we do on our very amateur channel is 4 to the floor styles. But this helps and is actually mixed.
Hey, man! I just want to say thank you so much for showing us how to step up; it helps a lot of us beginners get started. I do have a question regarding setting cue points. For example, I tend to set one of the cue points at the drop and another 8 bars before it. My question is, let's say there are lyrics before the drop such as "let's get reckless." Do you set the cue point on that lyric, or do you still place it at the drop? What do you recommend?
really wish you had alot of more videos just like this! I want to dive into experimental bass and the wide tempo changes within that genre makes it more difficult than just your typical dubstep
Video = Big pimpin... How long have you been dj'ing for?? I just bought the ddj rev 1 a few days ago (first controller) still tryna learn doubles (obviously) but they sound so mucky however the tip of filtering out one songs lows i think will be very helpful just don't know what songs to try it on.
I've been "dj'ing" since 2019, as far as doubling goes usually you always want them in the same key otherwise it won't mesh well. (not always but most the time. if you know music theory well then you can bend this rule.) Always when bringing a track in at a buildup switch the low ends during the build, otherwise they will get really muddy. when doubling/tripling/quad dropping always only have one sub at a time playing and cut the others. choose which you want to be most upfront and allow it to keep it's sub! hope that helps! and thanks for checking out the video!
Bro this is one of the most detailed and useful tutorials ive seen so far. Im only a 1.5-2 yrs in and haven't felt confident enough on my drops or the sound quality of my mixes to be interested in making it a second career. Now I know some areas im drastically going to be able to improve. 🙌🫶🙏 Thanks bruddah!!
The one thing I found out when I was messing around with doubles some doubles can be different keys but they just sound good together it’s just trail an error really finding songs that double well together
How do you save your starting point when you load your songs . I keep trying to look that up and can’t figure it out . I understand you set the cue, and possibly hit memory , but the next time I load the track it just wants to start from the beginning anyway .. what am I doing wrong ? And just to be more clear , I have hot cues set and I can click them to start from where I want. But I want to know what you did, it saves time
By default you have a memory cue saved at the start of the track. You need to delete that one if you don’t want it to to start from the beginning (even if you have other memory cues set)
How do you get dubstep tracks that aren’t ripped ? Songs from wooli or hol etc , don’t exist on most record pools. I’ve used djcity and crateconnect and both didn’t have a great selection of songs and neither a big selection to choose from in general . Both only had a single, to two pages. While other genres had upwards of 10-15 :/
If they are unreleased the only way to get it is to have them send you the unreleased. Which for that to happen, got to know somebody in the friend group haha
@@wheystedmusic what if they are released songs? Would I have no choice but to use like, the SoundCloud option in serato to play most released dubstep songs ? Just cause like the record pools don’t have really a vast selection at all. I got dj city bro , they got but one maybe two subtronics songs 😩 but I haven’t been lookin to play unreleased , I mean that would be cool if I could get to know connections like that - just don’t know the ways. But for example - subtronics just dropped omnidirectional a few days ago. How would I be able to play that unripped from SoundCloud ?
So I have a ddj400 I bought awhile back and wanted to learn. Anyways I stopped trying and started going to raves and ab to goto my first festival this Saturday. Anyways I’m trying to get back into it now that I have this love for the culture. I’ve got rekordbox and I use my SoundCloud for the music. Is there a better place to get these riddim, bass, etc. songs? Thanks!
SoundCloud is a great resource because all the free DL you can find. Other than that, I get a lot of my music from producers. But if I want a song and I can’t find it for free on SC or hitting up the producer, then I’ll use beatport.. What you can also do if you are starting out. Is use UA-cam to MP3 sites and take songs from YT. HOWEVER these files are not loseless, which means if you play them on club speakers they will sound hollow and weak compared to others. So never use ripped files for live sets. (This is kind of a controversial topic, but if you are just using it to practice at home then buy the songs you want for your live sets, then I think it’s a good middle ground so you aren’t spending $100’s on songs just to learn)
I actually don’t have any good info for that. Usually I just go crate digging (searching for new tunes from other producers, hyppedit, SoundCloud , etc) before a show, and analyze those new tracks in rekordbox and those will give you keys, and I’ll mix them accordingly
I use VDJ (I know, I know, not the best, but it’s what I’m comfortable with) and they have options to show the key of a track, not sure how it works for other softwares, but I’m pretty most if not all softwares have this option. Sometimes, the algorithm mistakenly gives the wrong key though, so you have to watch out for that. Most of the time, tracks that are a perfect fifth away from one another in key (C & G or F#m & C#m) tend to work well with one another. A lot of tracks in heavy dubstep, brostep, briddim, and riddim tend to be atonal, meaning there’s not really a discernible key after a certain point. I mix a lot of Minatory and Deathstep, and those tend to be atonal in a lot of places as well. Doubling in more melodic and harmonic forms of bass music like color bass, neoriddim, synth wave, downtempo, drumstep, DnB, etc requires a little knowledge on key matching in addition to what’s talked about in this video. I would recommend downloading a Circle of Fifths chart, that would help with an understanding of what keys match up. Hope this helps 😊.
@@yeln4tsmusic Rekordbox and Serato deff have key recognition in the software! i put mine in the circle of 5th but comes stock in just saying what key its in (example A# minor). One thing I wanted to touch base on about your comment is Dubstep tracks still pertain to their key in their drops. maybe their basses are slightly a tonal but your sub will always be tonal in any bass music. so it is important to mix in key for those as well (because once your out of the drop you want to make sure the musical elements are mixed together properly, or even double dropping tracks because usually their is something tonal in the drops like a sustain or something if the basses aren't.) Circle of fifths is goated tho! Great input! appreciate you commenting (also no one cares what you mix on, as long as your having fun that's what matters 😊)
Dubstep and EDM in general seem to be lacking real originality at this point. Entirely too many artists sounding way too similar. EDM has endless sounds but there is an epidemic of unoriginality and it’s sad. I feel like too many “artists” are just creating EDM for financial gains instead of the love for the genre and it’s fans. Not to mention a lot of EDM fans are some of the most disingenuous human beings you will ever meet. They are more interested in looking cool in their social media posts than they are actually enjoying live sets or appreciating the efforts of the event staff unless it makes for a better story and more clicks on their accounts
7 if its ripped and sounds weak just put it in a daw and turn it up, fuck rule 6 sync is for the losers or wannabe's, i have a double that breaks rule 3 and works fine but every other track yah i can see that and trying it out before watching the video.
Turning it up in your daw really won’t help if it’s Ripped and ahas quality loss. The sub will still sound weaker than your mids and highs. Which sucks because if people don’t get to sound check and someone sent them ripped plates it can’t be caught practically
![HOW TO MIX AND MASTER DUBSTEP [PT. 1/2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/n9fMJmsndiw/mqdefault.jpg)
Tried the mental training, and got distracted by the bangers being played. Had to rewind a min LOL! Thanks for the great tutorial!
This is such a nice breakdown, I started to figure out doubles on my own but didn't have enough experience to know the proper way of doing it. Huge help thanks!!!
Literally same bro! Haha this is so good. I'm coming from a DDJ200 to XDG-XZ LOL
Your hot cues method is what I’ve been looking for a while now, I went and tried it as soon as I finished watching the video and my transitions were so smooth, thanks so much man
Yo, this is sick my guy. I know I'm a little late to the party but this was super helpful, thank you.
Better late than never 👊 thanks for watching 🙏
TIME STAMPS (watch full video to fully understand my process)
2:14 Rules of Doubling
6:42 How I setup my tracks in Rekordbox
9:24 Live Stream Demo
12:19 Full Breakdown with hand cam and stream
I see lots of dudes doubling with their lows both up. And even now after all of this time people still talk mad shit in sync but I utilize it a lot when I’m doing routines live! It really does help.
sync is the only way for doubles/triples/quads imo because if a kick transient is slightly off the whole thing is ruined (which is why i analyze all my tracks in rekordbox as well). no one cares about sync that's actually successful in the scene its just the people that want to project on others and make it seem like they are superior at doing a task. I asked protohype in an upcoming video what he thought and he said he could care less who uses it. your job is to entertain your crowd and you do that how you seem fit :)
@@wheystedmusicman another great insight. Shit I found a new DJ to follow closer. Done, done and done. Haha
@@wheystedmusicMan I want to speak with you about that.
I see a lot of people that don't even use an headphone ?
Did they use the return or sync ??
More than likely. but if you plan your sets out with markers and cue points you can see everything you need to visually. so they could just be doing that@@stem7141
I'm a techno and house DJ and I have to say, mixing dubstep can be a challenge depending on the artist, subtronics seems to be one of the easiest to mix where artists that go all over the place like Nero are a super challenge. Excision isn't too bad but he doesn't have a ton of double drops in his songs and doesn't leave a ton of spacing, basically any dubstep artist who leaves a ton of spacing are the easiest to mix. Mixing is important as well making your own "VIPS" of sorts not this one after another stuff people seem to only be able to do because dubstep in general is just so chaotic.
just listened to "my name is skrillex yesterday" for the first time in years, makes me remember how much I used to love dubstep, (even thought that kinda felt like midtempo) Anyways keep it up dude! those gains are getting out of control XD
@PhoenixMusicOfficial It's just a typo
all the info you need to pull off a sick set!
I would give all the same tips 🎉
visuals on fire my guy!
This video is gold I've watched it around 6 times and stuff keeps clicking in every rewatch thank you very much man 🙏🙏🙏 I wish you had more videos on mixing
@@abexvii9246 thanks for watching 🙏what would you like to see? I would love to make more videos on mixing but not sure what my audience wants to see 🙂
Holy shit, this actually opened my brain on how to improve my dj skills! Like my shit is so basic with transitions and thats SUCH a badass and creative way to make EVERYTHING more interesting!!!! Holy hell i have alot of work to do, a million times thank you!!! Would you be able to make a vid or respond on how you transition out songs????
Usually starting the intro of the next song as the outro is playing out on the current track works for me
I like throwing on a spiral and back spinning as the spiral effect starts . Leaves an echoing scratch sound. Sounds so sick
Good stuff, over been DJing for 28 years, I still please bass and tech house, other genres as well. Although I don't play this genre, I still do a lot of doubling, but I'm usually leaving both tracks fully eqd and chipping back and forth, I see why with the l this genre you do what you do. It gives me lots of great ideas for my bass house mixes. Love seeing the over the top view, you can tell you know your equipment and when to eq and use the faders. Top notch
Thanks for the break down man! Big ups once again 🤝
i don't usually leave comments but absolutely loved this breakdown and tutorial, tysm fr
Thanks for watching! Glad it helped 🙂
My new favorite video I’ll be coming back to
Also fucking nasty my guy! I actually slowed down your video to .75x and it seemed to help me a bit. I’m definitely newer to djing/producing
such a gr8 breakdiwn 4 sure. Great visuals with mixer and track phrases...i usally have both subs on even one at 9 oclock, one at 12 oclock and chop as required.
If your chopping I would say full sub is optimal. But as soon as you double I would highly recommend just having whatever your front track is to have the sub. This really only matters at clubs and festivals where the system can clip and damage the equipment. Virtually who cares have fun 😎
@@wheystedmusic yep 4 sure! Ill leave the mids and highs on 12 oclock...totally get ya.
Always wanted to learn how they double them and do it myself, thanks for a great video!
@@u_ok glad it helped!
Go crush some doubles now 👊
Awesome vid man, cool to watch you work.
awesome vid !! very niche indeed and glad i found your account !! subscribed 🤟🏼🤟🏼
@@jaredgervais8074 very niche indeed 😂
Glad you liked it and appreciate you joining the community!
That’s such a cool Dj style bro, I rate how smooth your trans are 👑
Dude! Your video juste made me understand how to mix dubstep for real! Ty very much
That's amazing I'm glad you are learning a lot :) happy mixing friend!
This was actually sick, thanks.
I am just starting up on Dubstep and what I call the Broken Beat Genres. Most of what we do on our very amateur channel is 4 to the floor styles. But this helps and is actually mixed.
Thanks for watching! Hope it helped 🙏
Fire video for someone just starting out thank you so much!
great mixing!
Nice hot cue system! Thanks 😁
Just made a dope ass double thanks for the tutorial bro!
Let’s go!!! 🤝
great video! I've always wondered how the pros did it.
Let’s get Wheysted!
❤️
Please keep posting. I’m learning 😮
Glad you are learning! :)
Hey, man! I just want to say thank you so much for showing us how to step up; it helps a lot of us beginners get started. I do have a question regarding setting cue points. For example, I tend to set one of the cue points at the drop and another 8 bars before it. My question is, let's say there are lyrics before the drop such as "let's get reckless." Do you set the cue point on that lyric, or do you still place it at the drop? What do you recommend?
Aye thats my song! :)
Love the tune dude 😎
This was really helpful, thanks!
This was so helpful thank you
this is SUPER helpful! thank you
really wish you had alot of more videos just like this! I want to dive into experimental bass and the wide tempo changes within that genre makes it more difficult than just your typical dubstep
that was sick bro !!;
This shot was fire I learned alot
Video = Big pimpin... How long have you been dj'ing for?? I just bought the ddj rev 1 a few days ago (first controller) still tryna learn doubles (obviously) but they sound so mucky however the tip of filtering out one songs lows i think will be very helpful just don't know what songs to try it on.
I've been "dj'ing" since 2019,
as far as doubling goes usually you always want them in the same key otherwise it won't mesh well. (not always but most the time. if you know music theory well then you can bend this rule.)
Always when bringing a track in at a buildup switch the low ends during the build, otherwise they will get really muddy.
when doubling/tripling/quad dropping always only have one sub at a time playing and cut the others. choose which you want to be most upfront and allow it to keep it's sub!
hope that helps!
and thanks for checking out the video!
Hey, what faded curve do you set for you mixed channels? I’ve always wondered if everyone uses the default ones or which one?
I believe it’s just default
Bro this is one of the most detailed and useful tutorials ive seen so far. Im only a 1.5-2 yrs in and haven't felt confident enough on my drops or the sound quality of my mixes to be interested in making it a second career. Now I know some areas im drastically going to be able to improve. 🙌🫶🙏 Thanks bruddah!!
I can’t find the PolarBear - ID on SoundCloud :/ what do you use to stream/ download songs?
@@havengurka3722 I’m not sure if he ever released it. And I use SoundCloud and Spotify mostly
The one thing I found out when I was messing around with doubles some doubles can be different keys but they just sound good together it’s just trail an error really finding songs that double well together
They sure can! Circle of fifths is great for finding what can be cohesive together!
Needed this
Thanks master lml
What DJ Pool do you use?
Pls make more!!
How do you save your starting point when you load your songs . I keep trying to look that up and can’t figure it out . I understand you set the cue, and possibly hit memory , but the next time I load the track it just wants to start from the beginning anyway .. what am I doing wrong ? And just to be more clear , I have hot cues set and I can click them to start from where I want. But I want to know what you did, it saves time
By default you have a memory cue saved at the start of the track. You need to delete that one if you don’t want it to to start from the beginning (even if you have other memory cues set)
How do you get dubstep tracks that aren’t ripped ? Songs from wooli or hol etc , don’t exist on most record pools. I’ve used djcity and crateconnect and both didn’t have a great selection of songs and neither a big selection to choose from in general . Both only had a single, to two pages. While other genres had upwards of 10-15 :/
If they are unreleased the only way to get it is to have them send you the unreleased. Which for that to happen, got to know somebody in the friend group haha
@@wheystedmusic what if they are released songs? Would I have no choice but to use like, the SoundCloud option in serato to play most released dubstep songs ? Just cause like the record pools don’t have really a vast selection at all. I got dj city bro , they got but one maybe two subtronics songs 😩 but I haven’t been lookin to play unreleased , I mean that would be cool if I could get to know connections like that - just don’t know the ways. But for example - subtronics just dropped omnidirectional a few days ago. How would I be able to play that unripped from SoundCloud ?
@@av4ryww6 beat port
Please suggest a subscription based platform where we can download all our dubstep tracks from all artists
SC has a lot of gems that you can get free downloads from DL/follow gates.
Other than that beatport is great but usually cost $.70-$1 a track
Where’s your go to place to get remixes? There’s definitely songs I wanna use but UA-cam and SoundCloud are some of the only places I can find them
It depends. Sometimes SoundCloud, sometimes I reach out to the artist personally and ask, or I make them myself.
i cant find polar bear or ooph tracks
So I have a ddj400 I bought awhile back and wanted to learn. Anyways I stopped trying and started going to raves and ab to goto my first festival this Saturday.
Anyways I’m trying to get back into it now that I have this love for the culture. I’ve got rekordbox and I use my SoundCloud for the music.
Is there a better place to get these riddim, bass, etc. songs? Thanks!
SoundCloud is a great resource because all the free DL you can find. Other than that, I get a lot of my music from producers. But if I want a song and I can’t find it for free on SC or hitting up the producer, then I’ll use beatport..
What you can also do if you are starting out. Is use UA-cam to MP3 sites and take songs from YT. HOWEVER these files are not loseless, which means if you play them on club speakers they will sound hollow and weak compared to others. So never use ripped files for live sets. (This is kind of a controversial topic, but if you are just using it to practice at home then buy the songs you want for your live sets, then I think it’s a good middle ground so you aren’t spending $100’s on songs just to learn)
@@wheystedmusic well said, thank you!
💎💎💎💎💎💎
what fx was used to bring out the fitz song
Drop a time marker
howzit bru! you ever tried making techno?
closest I've come to that is Psytrance hybrids
what’s the best way to find songs in the same key?
I actually don’t have any good info for that. Usually I just go crate digging (searching for new tunes from other producers, hyppedit, SoundCloud , etc) before a show, and analyze those new tracks in rekordbox and those will give you keys, and I’ll mix them accordingly
I use VDJ (I know, I know, not the best, but it’s what I’m comfortable with) and they have options to show the key of a track, not sure how it works for other softwares, but I’m pretty most if not all softwares have this option. Sometimes, the algorithm mistakenly gives the wrong key though, so you have to watch out for that. Most of the time, tracks that are a perfect fifth away from one another in key (C & G or F#m & C#m) tend to work well with one another. A lot of tracks in heavy dubstep, brostep, briddim, and riddim tend to be atonal, meaning there’s not really a discernible key after a certain point. I mix a lot of Minatory and Deathstep, and those tend to be atonal in a lot of places as well. Doubling in more melodic and harmonic forms of bass music like color bass, neoriddim, synth wave, downtempo, drumstep, DnB, etc requires a little knowledge on key matching in addition to what’s talked about in this video. I would recommend downloading a Circle of Fifths chart, that would help with an understanding of what keys match up. Hope this helps 😊.
@@yeln4tsmusic Rekordbox and Serato deff have key recognition in the software! i put mine in the circle of 5th but comes stock in just saying what key its in (example A# minor). One thing I wanted to touch base on about your comment is Dubstep tracks still pertain to their key in their drops. maybe their basses are slightly a tonal but your sub will always be tonal in any bass music. so it is important to mix in key for those as well (because once your out of the drop you want to make sure the musical elements are mixed together properly, or even double dropping tracks because usually their is something tonal in the drops like a sustain or something if the basses aren't.)
Circle of fifths is goated tho!
Great input! appreciate you commenting
(also no one cares what you mix on, as long as your having fun that's what matters 😊)
@@wheystedmusic You were right, I forgot about the intros, midsections, and outros, I more meant for like triples and quads.
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This video helped me out so much. Thank you for making this
Glad it helped!
could you say some examples of double?
Like the ones in the video?
@@wheystedmusic yes, if you can, it would be appreciated
@@micheledalmonte740 they are labeled in the video. 🙏
@@wheystedmusic sorry
😅
could you do a video on the techniques of transitions ?
This helped a lot, but wtf was that at 15:20? Lol
What do you mean?
Idk the female vocals mixed like weird or something. But I do see what you were going for. I hope to know how to do it soon myself.
Dubstep and EDM in general seem to be lacking real originality at this point. Entirely too many artists sounding way too similar. EDM has endless sounds but there is an epidemic of unoriginality and it’s sad. I feel like too many “artists” are just creating EDM for financial gains instead of the love for the genre and it’s fans. Not to mention a lot of EDM fans are some of the most disingenuous human beings you will ever meet. They are more interested in looking cool in their social media posts than they are actually enjoying live sets or appreciating the efforts of the event staff unless it makes for a better story and more clicks on their accounts
7 if its ripped and sounds weak just put it in a daw and turn it up, fuck rule 6 sync is for the losers or wannabe's, i have a double that breaks rule 3 and works fine but every other track yah i can see that and trying it out before watching the video.
Turning it up in your daw really won’t help if it’s Ripped and ahas quality loss. The sub will still sound weaker than your mids and highs. Which sucks because if people don’t get to sound check and someone sent them ripped plates it can’t be caught practically
Thank you, I found this extremely helpful dude I appreciate you so much
Bro that was such a good learning video 🤯🫥🫡
Glad you enjoyed it!