@@403.FORBIDDEN not to scale doesn't mean things aren't the size you see on the screen, it means that the iss is incorrect size relative to the 50km he drew. If it was to scale the iss would be tiny in the drawing, about 500 times smaller than the box he drew so it would be a few pixels wide
As Musk himself lands on Mars and the base becomes sufficiently self-sustaining, he detonates the Starlink system - starting the ablation cascade and sealing off the Earth so no one may follow him. He then builds a throne of gold, and the rest is history
So it's illegal to drop a wrapper on the floor but it's legal to drop 90% of your spacecraft into orbit which could damage future spacecraft for many years to come.
Back in those days there weren't any crafts in orbit that your space craft can collide to, Second problem is that you had no choice but to ditch those unused/no longer needed parts of the spacecraft because spacex or any other reusable vehicles weren't a thing back then But now, it is a serious problem
@C W i think its because sunlight is much more abundant than cosmic rays and therefore cheaper to make.So non-photovoltic arrays maybe used in deep space missiom beyond neptune where cosmic rays are more abundant about where the voyager probes are.
The problem isn't nearly as bad as people think including most engineers. There are ways we can get rid of it, nobody just wants to pay the bill until somebody loses enough to cause a panic. Then everyone will ask why nothing was done before, nothing usually gets done before the disaster and it's almost always seen well before the event and ignored.
yup, FACTS. im not concerned, once there's a demand to remove the debris because it's become inefficient to have things orbiting and obliterating in less than a year by junk, then that's when organizations will begin to clean stuff up there, perhaps like a tax to pay before launching to fund for cleaning up, like street sweepers on roads at midnight.
Its Just Like That You're saying it like that's a bad thing. It isn't free markets that plague our society but the lack of them, most 'markets' on the planet are about as free and honest as a Chinese taxman. First and foremost being the utterly dishonest system of public incorporation.
I tend to stay away from pages and media that use the "The Truth About"... as being likely: clickbaity, scammy or having intentionally misleading content. I only watched because I knew the channel.
Like how every conspiracy nut talks. But tbf he was a bit that way about his "mainstream" "scare-tactic" part just because Tyson said somthing _could_ happen. I felt he strawmaned and misrepresented that part like any conspiracy theorist. The rest of the vid was ok.
@@harsimranbansal5355 starship is the only vehicle which can do that. And think about all the bragging rights- Jeff: I fished appolo 11's Saturn 5 first stage from the water. Elon: I recovered appolo 12's second stage from space. Take that.😛
That’s all that I hate about him, he acts as if he is a god among men but he’s not, he does have an amazing education there’s no denying that. But he’s just so full of himself when he constantly trips himself up.
Alien,, thay spend all there time on movie's .,.there slow and hairless messy , self distructive . all-around deadly .you need two of them to reproduce.
Alien: look none of these humans knows how to spell or form a proper sentence, does anyone actually read what they type before they hit send, you know that you can edit your comment even after it’s sent right.
@Swampy Yeah yeah. Typical trumpist conspiracy theory fake facts. Not a good thing for democracy to delegitimize an election like that. But then again america is becoming a sham.
As in many short-sighted endeavours, this too will come back to bites us in the ass. Witness the proliferation of plastic waste in our Oceans, the micro sized particles disguised as food for ocean life...and ocean life consuming said plastics. As a result ocean food-chains are being broken at the lowest levels, making for sterile oceans in due time. It is unstoppable now, it is inevitable, no protocol exists, no attempts to stop it, or even slow it down are on the horizon. This is all on an industrial scale, so, in hundred years or so, our planet will be significantly hotter, drinkable water will be virtually impossible to find, we will have significantly less ocean-life & a lethal cloud of debris will orbit our world....just about that time there will be Twelve billion of us...something will have to give....sorry, but we're really screwed.
YEA but different reasons, spaced armour isnt used primarily to stop kinetic penetrating ammunition, it can but its not that great at it cos the ammo stays in one relative piece when hitting the first layer and punching through. its used to defeat shaped charge ammo, using the same principle but its some molten metal thats being dispersed over a wide area on the 2nd layer
@@sheilaolfieway1885 And they don't need to be launched! I for one want to salvage the radar from Envisat and try using it to look for debris that's too small for Earth-based radars to see. ESA's already planning to capture and deorbit Envisat, so I have to get there before they do…
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For those actually concerned, don't worry. When people say "orbit," they're typically referring to satellites which orbit earth. However, the car was launched into an elliptical heliocentric orbit. Heliocentric meaning it orbits the sun.
I am studying aerospace engineering and we are currently researching using cubesats for active debris removal. nice video! The company who puts stuff in orbit should pay for cleanup. like a tax.
@@josephisrael8959 Not really. most of the stuff is not magnetic and electromagnets draw extreme amounts of power. also attracted debris could damage your magnet.
Just to point out...you did miss the major point of the Kessler syndrome. It is entirely reasonable to expect a single collision to create enough projectiles to damage a third piece of hardware. We are getting to the point where a chain reaction is possible that could make space travel impossible. It was this point that Neil Degrasse Tyson was discussing in the interview. Not one impact but a chain reaction that ends up with so much debris, especially the untrackable small pieces, that we end up not being able to predict a "safe" launch window for new satellites, etc.
@@WolfAvatar I don't think the Kessler syndrome was mentioned, but it's basically about a chain reaction of space debris destroying satellites and the ISS, and an astronaut trying to safely get back to earth. They did a really good job of showing the physics of space. If you can watch it in 3D, it's a lot of fun
This will never make space travel impossible nor will it last for longer than a few years before clearing up by itself, their orbits would decay and we'd all be sipping wine while it happened, or in the Russian's case, Vodka.
@@nalat1suket4nk0 i·so·la·tion·ist /ˌīsəˈlāSHənəst/ Learn to pronounce noun a person favoring a policy of remaining apart from the affairs or interests of other groups, especially the political affairs of other countries. "there was intense opposition to the proposal from isolationists"
@@nalat1suket4nk0 there's a website called www.google.com if you type in a word that that you aren't sure about, it'll give you the definition and loads of other information.
Imagine how it feels to be out of the space craft on a space walk! Imagine how it would sound to have your grandchildren ask, "How did Grandpa die?" "He was killed by a fleck of paint."
@@r.blakehole932 Eh, you could make it sound a lot cooler tho. "He was killed by a projectile going at a speed of several thousand kmh while floating at around 8 kilometer per second around earth, splattering grandpa all over the ISS." Hell yea!
This is the first time, on this topic, that I don't need to mention decaying orbits! Thanks for being reasonable and not following hype and fear mongering. This is a totally manageable problem if we're just more thoughtful about it while going forward.
The only issue is that people just aren't thoughtful about the future. From an evolutionary psychology perspective (which I have serious doubts about as it seems like a series of Just So stories) evolution doesn't favor thinking far beyond our own life; what use is advancing our great grand children's state of living if we don't make a living now? From a more realistic point of view, being forward thinking is expensive and difficult, and the literature shows we avoid hard problems and expense until it becomes a problem. The prime modern example is climate change. People are slowly coming around to the idea that we must do something, but only after it's probably too late to prevent catastrophic events. Why? We think about ourselves in the here and now, and projecting far in the future is something our brains aren't good at.
@@RawLu. Lol, India had a nuclear program since 1950's. And you don't even know how world economy or other nation works. India built Nuclear weapons because of China. And China built it because US had it. And having weapons of mass destruction is good if you have lots of money? Then I guess half of the Middle East would have been toting Nukes. Btw US threatened to nuke India to support Pakistan in 1970's.
Must admit, even putting aside how much i enjoy and actually learn from these videos, I'm really impressed that you go through the time and effort of referencing each point made as if it were a video-essay. Lets viewers know that you're not talking absolute rubbish like many other channels do.
@@hydrochloricacid2146 I hope he's implying they will reduce cost enough to exponentially increase the accumulation of debris due to an increase of launches, in support of your comment. If not, Trump changed his YT handle...
It seems like we could still benefit from the capture-satellites just to prevent older satellites that can't safely deorbit on their own from colliding and making more untrackable debris. Most of the problem seems to be that we're just adding to it faster that it naturally goes away, so if we made a concerted effort to take out these older suppliers of debris and require any new launch to have an exit strategy (either up or down), it should only take a few years before the collision rate starts to go down to more manageable levels. The laser seems like it would be too limited since it's only going to be effective against a certain range of sizes that are big enough to track and small enough to ablate meaningfully...which is still a ludicrously large number of objects and a ton of energy.
ESA Is working on it and it’s not going well. It’s proving to be horrendously expensive and difficult to build. One issue they are having is that the satellite will need to drag a huge amount of fuel into space in order to chase down and maneuver into place to grab the offending satellite. They then will need to expend another large amount of fuel to slow down the satellite enough to de orbit it. Of course, unless they can somehow refuel this satellite in space, something we cannot currently do and likely will have no chance at until SpaceX gets its starships online, these satellites will be single use. Another option would be to use a satellite that hooks some sort of solar parachute to derelict satellites and then let them go, but the fuel needed to chase down the satellite is still an issue.
When you try to respond a problem with the phrase, "Humanity need to put aside the differences to overcome this problem", you need to complete the phrase with the Meme, "sounds good, doesn't work"
Humanity could've worked together and easily stop this pandemic. Except what actually happened is China didn't tell anyone that a virus existed as it spread all over the place. Then the idiots protest the stay at home order because the bill or rights doesn't say they can't. Now we're stuck at home.
I have already explained all he details of our India's ASAT test in my video.India did the test very responsibly. India had to do it now before rules came into place. Now India can claim a right over forming the rules for space weapons. Space warfare isn't a good thing, but india had no choice but to conduct the test before being forced to accept rules, adequate by US, Russia and China
Wipple shields are tank armor, in their case its called spaced armor, most modern tanks use it as part of there armor such as the famous M1 Abrams. Its been around for a while now, some of the Panzer 3 and Panzer 4 variants have it to protect against anti tank rifles
Space suit's have a sort of proto-whipple shield as well, it's part of why they are so enormously bulky. It doesn't have the metal second layer, but the outer layer will usually shatter the micrometeorite and just leave you with a few tiny puncture wounds. If you are talking about something bigger than 1cm... well you are going to have a very bad day. If you are lucky, the impact won't break the seals on your suit and you'll be able to drag yourself back into the ship. If it's something big enough, i.e 3cm+, you are very, very dead.
That 2 wall debris shield for the space craft was also used in WW2 by the Germans on some tanks. was able to slow and redirect travel in a non straight trajectory and keep tungsten projectiles from penetrating the main armor of the tank.
I believe it's called "spaced armor" or "hollow plate" (the idea is to break the projectile into tiny fragment using first layer that's high hardness-optimized let them lose some kinetic energy by traveling a void between the armor and expand their area of impact then let second more ductile layer that's high compressive, shear and tensile strength-optimized absorb the residual kinetic energy, although the void could also be filled shear thickening fluid-impregnated ductile high compressive, shear and tensile strength-optimized fabric like kevlar to significantly increase the protection and reduce spalling).
A very good explanation of the topic. I wonder what your thoughts are on Kessler syndrome, where the density of the space debris is high enough that it could cause a cascade reaction where each impact increases the chance another will occur. You glanced over the issue pretty quickly, and i'm not sure the risk is as small as you suggest. Should a sufficiently sized piece of debris be struck and destroyed, the resulting domino effect could be what (as some science media outlets like to call it) traps us without acces to earth orbit for a significant time.
Good question. I realize I'm 3 years late to the party but I too was wondering where reality lay insofar as inbetween worrying about the Kessler phenomena and space being vast. That is, what is/is there a point of no return where orbital debris act as a planetary moat?
India tested its anti satellite missile in lower Earth orbit (LEO) and debris in LEO decay or burns in atmosphere while falling back to earth. So there is nothing so wrong India have done by testing its anti satellite missile, if India is wrong then USA is also wrong because they are responsible for creating huge numbers of space debris since 50 years
@@Ujjawal_UA-cam what an odd Reply to the Comment "What a great eye-opening video!". Everything you've said is already in the video... as well as loads of interesting "eye-opening" info! Oh well, nevermind, eh? 😎
@@JohnDoe-tx8lq truth is customized and made little against India, that is why posted my reply. One should know full truth not half and video is showing half truth
@@Ujjawal_UA-cam ....and yet the video talks about the US missile debris as well. The truth is there, but you CHOOSE to see the video as anti-India so by your logic, I can say you are anti-US. Seems you didn't have any confidence in what you said as you posted it as a reply to an unrelated comment, rather than posting it as an original Comment so more people would see. Poor old India, Real Engineering is obviously against it!
@@JohnDoe-tx8lq I think you lost your mind and only you see is my comment, I just expressed my views and many people in comments talking against recent test of India so I just told them to know full truth and I'm not anti USA, I am just exploring the truth what USA did and what India did so please don't point out at me, read my comments with calm and cool head
@@felreymiguel5734 well, there is always a rate of failure. Way oversimplified, the amout of space debrie is equals the amout of stuff we send up there. (within a constant faktor). So way more satelites(e.g. starlink) => way more debrie(in the long run). Part of the idea of starlink (source needed) was to have many satelites to be less vulnurable to failure.
Starlink satellites will deorbit automatically in 2 years because of their low orbit. As long as their lifespan allows, the satellites will regularly be boosted back up to keep them from falling down. This shows that the people of Starlink take space debris into consideration.
@@1995TheDude Have you seen the movie, "Gravity?" If one satellite gets hit accidentally, e.g., by a meteor or intentionally, e.g., by an ASAT (Anti-Satellite weapon), it can break apart and create a debris field that spreads out in all directions. If one piece from that field splashes another satellite, the effect gets multiplied exponentially. With so many Starlink satellites following the same interlocking orbits, a chain reaction can ensue. Not only would Starlink get affected but other satellites and spacecraft would get affected as well by Starlink debris. Keep in mind that some of the debris could be as tiny as a grain of sand but still capable of causing serious damage that initiates another chain reaction. Countless chunks & particles could remain in orbit for an indefinite time. There would be no way to keep track of it all or clean it up. At the same approximate altitude, a Starlink debris field would define a new impassable outer shell or sphere above the atmosphere that wraps around the Earth endangering, e.g., future SpaceX launches to Mars.
I just loved this short documentary. The facts, the images, and the precise description of information was like a bedtime story for space loving people.
politicians: why should we care about cleaning up space debris?? engineers: but we get to build a giant frickin laser.... and it won't kill people (i think.... i hope)
Yes, joint collaboration is important to remove space debris First we have to remove bigger debris, (something at the range of 2 metres to- max ), and it includes lasts stage, destroyed satellite's parts, panels etc because that types of large debris are the main source of creating further smaller particles ( size from mm to cm)
Simply deorbiting (getting them below 150km) will solve most problems. Geostationary orbit will need special attention as it may be easier to loft them into the moon rather than drop them lower.
It could very well be true that cooperation between countries to solve the space junk issue may also spawn technologies for better shielding that could be used for future space flights.
@@scientistsbaffled5730 Ya it's always someone elses problem. The earth is segregated so well that there is no way that polluted oceans and other waterways can affect you in any way, right? Any clue on the probability that your plastic bottle will be recycled .. or even disposed of in a manner that renders it completely inert until 1000's of years later when it has broken down completely? Ya I didn't think so. It's pretty damn low. What about the plastic bottle of the guy next to you sucking on his? What about the 100's of millions that just like you, just don't care? Plastic is much more than just a physical hazard. Water, the universal solvent, is very good at leaching out the plasticizers and other toxins that plastic contains. Suck on a water bottle that has sat out in the sun a few days sealed. You won't like the taste. If the sight of pollution, especially plastic, doesn't bother you at all then I can see it now .. you sitting on the rotting deck of your trailer, screen door rusting off its filthy hinges, dog wandering around looking vainly for a place to die ...
@@scientistsbaffled5730 No surprise there ... you'll show them! See your behavior and the other hundreds of millions can't be changed, so the key to a healthy planet is to not make things out of materials that persist in the wild for centuries. Course we'll never get national politicians to think and act on the issue as they are defo under the thumb of the plastics industry and other related interests. So for now you're safe to keep doing the stupid things that you do.
NASA on every ASAT test:- When USA tested ASAT: It's good, it is for betterment of the mankind, no one is going to say any word. When Russia tested: Uh, it's not good, but we not gonna say anything, we don't want a war with Russia. When China: It's bad, it's really bad, we need to do something. When India: It's gonna kill all human, it will destroy the world economy and all our satellites. Even hypocrisy has a limit.
The problem with India's ASAT missile was that they hit it going upwards, while the others hit it going down; almost all of the debris from US, Russian, and Chinese ASAT was burned up. india's test created thousands of more debris.
M8 JRE has millions of listeners worldwide, a lot of whom believe they are more intelligent and/or informed than their peers. It's subversive mainstream media.
@CK Lim the starlink project involves small satellites in low altitude orbits (around 300 and 400km) the debris they can create will fastly fall and evaporate
@@jdl455 no, you are right... starlink satellites are at 550Km of altitude, low enough so when there practical life ends, it will naturally reentry earth's atmosphere, now im not sure either if upon impact, the small debris would evaporate but it does sounds feasible
But after collision we are left with smaller, less dangerous pieces [stil dangerous, per the video] but more likely to fall back, burn up in re-entry and if this is true, could future pieces be equipped with "self destruct modules" like plastic explosive to blow them to bits / somehow be safer??
Brilliant, and non-sensationalist, analysis. Thanks in particular to the logical commentary from about 12mins into the video. The message is clear and not dramatic/pretentious.
MrR3set un that’s what spaceX is doing currently! They are able to reuse rockets up to 10 times! They do this by landing the rocket on land by turning on the engine on the last second
NASA: Well looks like our decades of endeavors have resulted in Earth's orbit being mass polluted, how do we solve this one? *India tests their anti-satellite missile at low earth orbit. NASA: 💡
Its not that simple. anti sattellite test produce as much debis as NASA put into space within several decades. Anti satellite test are the quickest way to pollute LEO.
Video is very well done. Just a minor comment: Operation Burnt Frost from 2008 should not be referred to as an ASAT "test." That operation was done to destroy non-functional U.S. National Reconnaissance Office satellite USA-193, which represented a small, but non-negligible threat to the (planet-wide) general population due to the large amount of frozen hydrazine fuel onboard. This was not really a test, just a highly unconventional deployment of the intercept capability of the SM-3 missile.
@@manojbairwa2853 Cause it is exactly that. Like USA cares about such a small pollution a satellite can do, while they bomb countries with uranium shells. Yea right. They destroyed it cause of the environment, not to show their capabilities. Riiiight..... Only american can say an excuse like that and think its totally reasonable. Looking at the guy above your comment.
I can't help that think that this video undersells the danger of Kessler syndrome (a situation where a planets orbit is inundated by so much debris that further space launches are extremely perilous and most likely only add to the amount of debris). As pointed out in this video, each successive collision adds thousands of potential debris to a huge variety of orbits. As these new debris spread the danger of further collisions increases and consequently the amount of debris can explode exponentially in a matter of years. While it's true that the space around Earth is extremely, incomprehensibly empty today we currently stand at the beginning of a problem which given our current management will only get worse. I for one would like to live in a world where communications and GPS satellites don't need armor stronger than a tanks to survive.
@@TheOwenMajor Here's a prediction of space debris including LEO objects from NASA with the assumption that we immediately stop all rocket launches: wp-assets.futurism.com/2013/09/Space-Debris-2.jpg While its true that most LEO debris degrade rapidly many do not, and most of our debris from regular launches is deposited in these orbits. LEO also the most problematic sphere for space industry since every launch by necessity must traverse these altitudes to reach higher safer orbits. Another point the video didn't mention is that debris can breed more debris. Pieces can collide with one another, creating smaller, harder to track pieces on erratic courses, often breaching into 'safe' orbits where satellites are less prepared for collisions. The video rightly points out that many voices are alarmist about these concerns, which I fully agree with. But it seems lacking for a channel focused on engineering to mention a problem without addressing the worst case scenario.
@@theespatier4456 Nope. I might r/woooosh myself but here we go... When debris collides with debris, it makes more debris, which collides with more debris, and so on. I don't know if this is a real scientific term, but it has quite its place in space.
INTERNATIONAL PLANETARY DEFENSE LASER LETS GO! First to clean up, and hopefully by developing the technology we may be able to defend against asteroids (however unlikely)
I have 753 debris in my KSP sandbox save Edit: I see my comment is getting noticed and 5 of my missions to minmus and back we're ruined by debris colliding to my rocket and 3 kerbals (jeb, Valentina and neil Kerman) we're stuck in space and the engine was destroyed meaning a C7 SSTO was launched to save them they survived and we're walking normally on kerbin stuck for 3 days in space
Ah, deqnq, just so you know the plural past tense of "to be" is "were". The word "we're" which you seem so fond of USING for said plural past tense is a contraction meaning "we are". It is similar to "you're" (you are) and they're (they are). I do not fault you for not knowing those facts. You're merely a product of your (what is called in the U.S.) public education and I seriously doubt you "teachers" were aware of the difference, either.
Good job balancing risk vs reality. Yes it's a big concern but with the right agreements in place it should be manageable. Also, good job for not condoning India's actions as many have done. International agreements between spacefaring nations are definitely overdue.
When was the last time you heard about international agreements that actually had an impact on, helped solving an issue? When? Our species wants to commit suicide for it hopes that afterwards Mad Max will roam the deserted high-ways. We love Dystopia and deeply hate Utopia, you leftist snow-flake.
@@Thaulopi Wow you missed the mark by a very wide margin. I'm definitely not a fan of global governance or globalism (que the Alex Jones meme), which is why I used the word agreements (as in voluntary compliance) rather than laws. Sounds weak but it would be far better than what we have now, which is basically nothing.
@@DennisKapatos Well, the end of my post was clearly irony relating to your aforementioned club of inane nay-sayers- What I meant was: We, the species, need a paradigm change. Governance has failed us, always! What is needed is a multi variable thing called ...Sophia. One variable, just for you to pique your interest into German Philosophy is Imanuel Kant: Kategorischer Imperativ: Catogoric Imperativ, that would impede you to kill someone, to harm an inscet, to hit your daughter, so call somebdy and inane nay-sayers. This is what we, you and I, need. Hugs my friend.
He called out the other ASAT tests too and pointed out the more recent one indicating that it has become a norm for nations now to show their strength by conducting ASAT tests. Besides, he did compare India's ASAT with the US one and showed how most of the debris fell back to earth and evaporated within months. What part of it did you not get lol?
I was just watching youtube and all of a sudden with no autoplay and no clicking I was suddenly TELEPORTED to this video and it startled me I wonder what happened im so confused
There is a part of me that thinks "if it costs $100,000 per kilogram to get materials up there, maybe we should take old satellites to the ISS and see what we can recycle?" I know that the cost per kilogram is going down, but the concept remains I think.
Not a bad idea actually. Having sweeper satellites designed to capture defunct ones would make sense. Or as the video says, just install a kind of laser satellite capability on...something. I'm sure no one would object to the ISS having a laser that could protect it from potential collisions. Or even just a small missile system that could blow up threats. As long as it's on the ISS it should be less of a political issue as well.
These satellites are in different orbits, different velocities, etc. You'd need a specific mission to grab a specific satellite. De-orbiting mechanisms seem like a no-brainier though.
It was not condemned because it was an unnecessary political posture. It was condemned because it was an unnecessary political posture done by one of the newer countries in the political arena. When the US did the same in 2008, it was OK, since the US did it. When Russia did it 2015, it was OK since Russia did it. When China did it 2007, it was semi OK, since China did it, and they are not 100% accepted to do this type of stuff. But India or anyone else doing it is very not OK, how dare they do the same we did too.
We've also done nuclear tests back in the day . . . we've since stopped. History doesn't forever burden entities with the label of hypocrite. And to the extent that they are, this is a case of, "well not everyone gets to do this or we're fucked"
It wasn't ok when China did it either. US was pretty against it. China just didn't bother caring because US simply don't like them anyways. US didn't say much about Russia because Russia had the technology for awhile much like the US. It's rather pointless to complain now. The one that is being hypocritical is really just US government since its only them that is voicing concerns for everything. The scientists are simply complaining about ALL tests since regardless of who does it, it's ruining everyone.
@@Xelbiuj I will disagree in just one point. If some entity did something in the past - it carries this burden on forever. For example. US would be forever guilty of atomic bombings or destroying satellites. That's actually exactly the reason why other countries should not ever do that - to not take this burden even a little bit off US (or other countries who did similar crimes).
But the altitude at which Indian ASAT test was conducted it will take 4 weeks to burn down compared to 27 years by Chinese test Also no one concerned with Amazon launching 3500 nano satellites,mother of all space debris being planned to be created but a poor country being blamed for conducting a test, simulation doesn't give satisfaction an actual test is needed to be done
love how you put "not to scale" in your drawing.
Lol. Yeah cool
Gotta make sure the ISS isn't actually 2 inches long somehow
@@403.FORBIDDEN that's not what it means
@@WonderSilverstrand isn't the 50km around it to scale though, no matter what size the ISS is shown?
@@403.FORBIDDEN not to scale doesn't mean things aren't the size you see on the screen, it means that the iss is incorrect size relative to the 50km he drew. If it was to scale the iss would be tiny in the drawing, about 500 times smaller than the box he drew so it would be a few pixels wide
I find it amazing that they can track debris 10cm in size in space.
I can’t even track some of my books consistently, and those are >10cm and not even in space…
@@zoetje1760 XD
Ooopsy! Who would have thought there'd be junk left over?
they can even detect paint particles... 😯👍
Yes, even if the distance between debris are quite far but the velocity is damn terrifying.
Even more difficult is the separating of space garbage into paper, recyclables and compost.
No problem - it is all recyclables... It is getting the garbage truck up there that is the problem.
MB4LUNCH wtf? Whats fake vacuum dpace
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Mostly compost probably....
Transgender Ben Shapiro Don’t you know? Space is flat.
@@fredmeebley space is a PapER
just recycle the space bro
Imagine going on a space walk and being killed buy a cm of paint
That would suck. Imagine how the astronaut's family would react to hearing about how they died.
Many an AK owner in hot zones has found out the hard way that firing up into the night sky in celebration, is a nasty way to learn about gravity.
Lolll
Space Paint :)
Nice of our scientists to wreck our space, they should be fined for littering
As Musk himself lands on Mars and the base becomes sufficiently self-sustaining, he detonates the Starlink system - starting the ablation cascade and sealing off the Earth so no one may follow him.
He then builds a throne of gold, and the rest is history
That happened last time.
I want to write a book about this
E L O N G A T E D M U S K R A T
Gaslands!!!
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Just delete it in the tracking station
that doesn't get the respeks that deorbiting remote spent stages does. you wonderful person
Mission Success!
Respect+
I had enough junk in that orbit that goes right over KSP, that I started carrying clamps just so I could rendezvous with the junk and refuel.
Or even better send another rocket up there to destroy the debris
I just made a missile that just makes it self big. Then rem it in to the thing.
So it's illegal to drop a wrapper on the floor but it's legal to drop 90% of your spacecraft into orbit which could damage future spacecraft for many years to come.
Back in those days there weren't any crafts in orbit that your space craft can collide to,
Second problem is that you had no choice but to ditch those unused/no longer needed parts of the spacecraft because spacex or any other reusable vehicles weren't a thing back then
But now, it is a serious problem
Thomas Turner why are you in every video I watch xD
And its illegal to sell a pickle that doesnt bounce😂😂😂
Adam Zion Every country creating space debris with missile tests are irresponsible
So it's legal to crash debri into spacecraft but it's illegal to crash planes into buildings 🤔
I look at this as a great start to a Dyson Sphere.
Ha
@C W what
@C W i think its because sunlight is much more abundant than cosmic rays and therefore cheaper to make.So non-photovoltic arrays maybe used in deep space missiom beyond neptune where cosmic rays are more abundant about where the voyager probes are.
Dyson prison
Frank Elmer 😄
The problem isn't nearly as bad as people think including most engineers. There are ways we can get rid of it, nobody just wants to pay the bill until somebody loses enough to cause a panic.
Then everyone will ask why nothing was done before, nothing usually gets done before the disaster and it's almost always seen well before the event and ignored.
True
yup, FACTS.
im not concerned, once there's a demand to remove the debris because it's become inefficient to have things orbiting and obliterating in less than a year by junk, then that's when organizations will begin to clean stuff up there, perhaps like a tax to pay before launching to fund for cleaning up, like street sweepers on roads at midnight.
Then comes other organizations finding ways to profit from said plans
Its Just Like That You're saying it like that's a bad thing.
It isn't free markets that plague our society but the lack of them, most 'markets' on the planet are about as free and honest as a Chinese taxman.
First and foremost being the utterly dishonest system of public incorporation.
@@EvitoCruor exactly
Things, KSP doesn't teach: Space Debris
Oh wait, wrong channel
You just haven't made enough launches yet. ^.^
Ahoy!
@Adam Zion Pentagon defended India's ASAT test, it was NASA which was against it.
Fly safe!
@Adam Zion Your logic fails and would leave us with the tragedy of the commons.
I tend to stay away from pages and media that use the "The Truth About"... as being likely: clickbaity, scammy or having intentionally misleading content. I only watched because I knew the channel.
that is the truth about the truth about articles
Reliable sources says I'm wrong
I avoid links that start with "free"
The last comment I saw about (the truth in videos) went political FAST
Like how every conspiracy nut talks. But tbf he was a bit that way about his "mainstream" "scare-tactic" part just because Tyson said somthing _could_ happen. I felt he strawmaned and misrepresented that part like any conspiracy theorist. The rest of the vid was ok.
We need to find a way to recover the Apollo 12 third stage. It's a piece of history!
yes
The Snoopy lander is still out there...
I think starship will be able to do it. It’s the only rocket right now that has a big enough cargo area!
@@harsimranbansal5355 starship is the only vehicle which can do that. And think about all the bragging rights-
Jeff: I fished appolo 11's Saturn 5 first stage from the water.
Elon: I recovered appolo 12's second stage from space. Take that.😛
@@harsimranbansal5355 its not even developed bruh. It just keeps exploding
“Did you just disagree with Neil deGrasse Tyson?!!???!!”
Real Engineering: “Yes, yes I did.”
Neil deGrasse Tyson is an asshole anyway.
That’s all that I hate about him, he acts as if he is a god among men but he’s not, he does have an amazing education there’s no denying that. But he’s just so full of himself when he constantly trips himself up.
you guys cant be serious
He’s the best at explaining complex things to uneducated fools like myself
@@pluto8404Only you have a reasonable bone to pick with Neil. :) The others whining about him are perfect examples of snowflakes.
*Aliens:* Look at how advanced this civilization! They know how to use pieces of metals to build a shield for their planet!
*Humans:* Please HELP US!🙏
Alien,, thay spend all there time on movie's .,.there slow and hairless messy , self distructive . all-around deadly .you need two of them to reproduce.
Alien: look none of these humans knows how to spell or form a proper sentence, does anyone actually read what they type before they hit send, you know that you can edit your comment even after it’s sent right.
@@BLAZENYCBLACKOPS its "know" not "knows" lol.
@@madara2792 It's*
Look at how advanced this civilization! is an incomplete sentence
Shielding, pffft just give them a couple bottles of flex seal it'll be alright
Rhinoline that sucker lol
Modern problems require modern solutions
That is weird map of the USA.
Considering the last election Republicans lost the popular vote.
@Swampy
Yeah yeah. Typical trumpist conspiracy theory fake facts.
Not a good thing for democracy to delegitimize an election like that.
But then again america is becoming a sham.
@Flight 32X this is america, not a democratic european shithole, fuck your popular shit!
In short we humans have managed to take a dump in space too!
ULA,COSMOS,ESA USES SPACE LIKE A TOILET THAT FLUSHES OUT MONEY.
AND THEY DON'T WIPE.
human is the only animal that soils its own nest ...
As in many short-sighted endeavours, this too will come back to bites us in the ass. Witness the proliferation of plastic waste in our Oceans, the micro sized particles disguised as food for ocean life...and ocean life consuming said plastics. As a result ocean food-chains are being broken at the lowest levels, making for sterile oceans in due time. It is unstoppable now, it is inevitable, no protocol exists, no attempts to stop it, or even slow it down are on the horizon.
This is all on an industrial scale, so, in hundred years or so, our planet will be significantly hotter, drinkable water will be virtually impossible to find, we will have significantly less ocean-life & a lethal cloud of debris will orbit our world....just about that time there will be Twelve billion of us...something will have to give....sorry, but we're really screwed.
we can shit on you from such a height, you would think god took it upon himself to crap on you.
The whipple shield just sounds like spaced armor... which is also used in tanks.
Uh, Hi? That’s because it basically is. But thinner.
YEA but different reasons, spaced armour isnt used primarily to stop kinetic penetrating ammunition, it can but its not that great at it cos the ammo stays in one relative piece when hitting the first layer and punching through. its used to defeat shaped charge ammo, using the same principle but its some molten metal thats being dispersed over a wide area on the 2nd layer
Most tanks have the spaced armor in addition to its hull, but Whipple incorporates the hull into the armor due to limitations of application.
That's exactly what it is.
But what armor class is it? ;-)
The graphics in this episode are great!
So am I evil to watch at 144p ?
Muhahaha
Yeah, lots of CGI...
What an incredible production this is. Super informative, fun to watch, and very well explained.
Russian troll
I'm waiting. At one point in my lifetime a business collecting space debris will emerge and I want in.
someday that may be profitable think of all the materials you could sell
@@sheilaolfieway1885 And they don't need to be launched! I for one want to salvage the radar from Envisat and try using it to look for debris that's too small for Earth-based radars to see. ESA's already planning to capture and deorbit Envisat, so I have to get there before they do…
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Me too
They already have a anime about that.
Elon musk launches car into orbit
Space debris: "Am I a joke to you?"
I don't actually understand the reference for this meme/joke thing. If someone could explain it. I would really appreciate it
For those actually concerned, don't worry. When people say "orbit," they're typically referring to satellites which orbit earth. However, the car was launched into an elliptical heliocentric orbit. Heliocentric meaning it orbits the sun.
@@jarehelt knowyourmeme.com/memes/am-i-a-joke-to-you
He's got 3rd party insurance on it.
@@vizonegames1368 yeah. Basically meme wikipedia.
I am studying aerospace engineering and we are currently researching using cubesats for active debris removal. nice video!
The company who puts stuff in orbit should pay for cleanup. like a tax.
Could powerful electromagnets work?
@@josephisrael8959 Not really. most of the stuff is not magnetic and electromagnets draw extreme amounts of power. also attracted debris could damage your magnet.
Just to point out...you did miss the major point of the Kessler syndrome.
It is entirely reasonable to expect a single collision to create enough projectiles to damage a third piece of hardware.
We are getting to the point where a chain reaction is possible that could make space travel impossible.
It was this point that Neil Degrasse Tyson was discussing in the interview.
Not one impact but a chain reaction that ends up with so much debris, especially the untrackable small pieces, that we end up not being able to predict a "safe" launch window for new satellites, etc.
That pretty much describes the plot of Gravity
@@limiv5272 I haven't seen the movie but I'm going to assume that it was based on the Kessler syndrome?
@@WolfAvatar I don't think the Kessler syndrome was mentioned, but it's basically about a chain reaction of space debris destroying satellites and the ISS, and an astronaut trying to safely get back to earth. They did a really good job of showing the physics of space. If you can watch it in 3D, it's a lot of fun
This will never make space travel impossible nor will it last for longer than a few years before clearing up by itself, their orbits would decay and we'd all be sipping wine while it happened, or in the Russian's case, Vodka.
May I recommend the book Seveneves by Neal Stephenson? "Eventually" may not be a great comfort...
seeing the flags together makes me happy
@Plural Entropy fucking isolationist
@@neildoe1617 is that a word? lol
@Plural Entropy there really isn't a problem and it's even better
@@nalat1suket4nk0 i·so·la·tion·ist
/ˌīsəˈlāSHənəst/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a person favoring a policy of remaining apart from the affairs or interests of other groups, especially the political affairs of other countries.
"there was intense opposition to the proposal from isolationists"
@@nalat1suket4nk0 there's a website called www.google.com if you type in a word that that you aren't sure about, it'll give you the definition and loads of other information.
Not gonna lie, that would be a bit nerve-wracking being up there and hearing
something hit your space craft
*wracking
@@PinataOblongata
Wrecking if the debris is bigger then 10cm lol
Watch the movie “Gravity” it’s what happens in the film.
Imagine how it feels to be out of the space craft on a space walk! Imagine how it would sound to have your grandchildren ask, "How did Grandpa die?" "He was killed by a fleck of paint."
@@r.blakehole932 Eh, you could make it sound a lot cooler tho.
"He was killed by a projectile going at a speed of several thousand kmh while floating at around 8 kilometer per second around earth, splattering grandpa all over the ISS."
Hell yea!
This is the first time, on this topic, that I don't need to mention decaying orbits!
Thanks for being reasonable and not following hype and fear mongering.
This is a totally manageable problem if we're just more thoughtful about it while going forward.
The only issue is that people just aren't thoughtful about the future. From an evolutionary psychology perspective (which I have serious doubts about as it seems like a series of Just So stories) evolution doesn't favor thinking far beyond our own life; what use is advancing our great grand children's state of living if we don't make a living now? From a more realistic point of view, being forward thinking is expensive and difficult, and the literature shows we avoid hard problems and expense until it becomes a problem. The prime modern example is climate change. People are slowly coming around to the idea that we must do something, but only after it's probably too late to prevent catastrophic events. Why? We think about ourselves in the here and now, and projecting far in the future is something our brains aren't good at.
Air drag plus tidal forces from the Moon, Sun and/or Jupiter also have impacts on orbits. Satellites generally lose 1.8 m/s a year if I recall.
Not sure about the quantities required, but do you think introducing gases into orbit will be viable to make debris decay its orbits faster?
I cannot believe how brainwashed humans are.. "We" aren't doing anything..
"Orbits" 😂
That's a pretty big "if" you have there
India launching missiles? Suddenly I'm having Civ flashbacks.
NEWFLASH; INDIA HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND THEY HATE THEIR NEIGHBOR....
Gandhi stop nuking the entire goddamn map!
They can afford Nuclear Weapons wile their people live in Squalor… India(Pakistan etc.) are literally Disgusting countries in every way...
@@RawLu. Lol, India had a nuclear program since 1950's. And you don't even know how world economy or other nation works.
India built Nuclear weapons because of China. And China built it because US had it.
And having weapons of mass destruction is good if you have lots of money? Then I guess half of the Middle East would have been toting Nukes.
Btw US threatened to nuke India to support Pakistan in 1970's.
@@RawLu. I can buy you an Large Mac Meal from MacDonald.
I am from India 🤭❤️.
Must admit, even putting aside how much i enjoy and actually learn from these videos, I'm really impressed that you go through the time and effort of referencing each point made as if it were a video-essay. Lets viewers know that you're not talking absolute rubbish like many other channels do.
'We're not going to be dumb enough to make space travel extremely difficult'
Humanity: Hold my beer.
Nathan Levesque hold my politics
@@datgio4951 are you saying he's wrong?
@Cyrus The Great what does that have to do with my comment?
@@hydrochloricacid2146 I hope he's implying they will reduce cost enough to exponentially increase the accumulation of debris due to an increase of launches, in support of your comment. If not, Trump changed his YT handle...
Space is cgi
"NOT TO SCALE"
Wait. Wait. WAIT.
You're telling me the ISS isn't 15 kilometers long?!
I've been lied to all my life.
Wait, how much is that in football fields?
@@b4nes how long football field in yard and meter (im sorry im not learning imperial yet)
@@dhupee It's just a meme, sir, that football fields are the most used measure of length in documentaries.
@@b4nes im sorry i dont know that references
@@dhupee And now you know ;)
It seems like we could still benefit from the capture-satellites just to prevent older satellites that can't safely deorbit on their own from colliding and making more untrackable debris. Most of the problem seems to be that we're just adding to it faster that it naturally goes away, so if we made a concerted effort to take out these older suppliers of debris and require any new launch to have an exit strategy (either up or down), it should only take a few years before the collision rate starts to go down to more manageable levels. The laser seems like it would be too limited since it's only going to be effective against a certain range of sizes that are big enough to track and small enough to ablate meaningfully...which is still a ludicrously large number of objects and a ton of energy.
Great news 2 years on, the Chinese Space Agency has successfully used a disposal satellite to throw a decommissioned satellite out of orbit.
ESA Is working on it and it’s not going well. It’s proving to be horrendously expensive and difficult to build. One issue they are having is that the satellite will need to drag a huge amount of fuel into space in order to chase down and maneuver into place to grab the offending satellite. They then will need to expend another large amount of fuel to slow down the satellite enough to de orbit it. Of course, unless they can somehow refuel this satellite in space, something we cannot currently do and likely will have no chance at until SpaceX gets its starships online, these satellites will be single use.
Another option would be to use a satellite that hooks some sort of solar parachute to derelict satellites and then let them go, but the fuel needed to chase down the satellite is still an issue.
The Whipple Shield?
So, THAT'S where all the Charmin toilet paper went.
I can only guess that you are in your 50's or more? I like your humor!
At least the whipple cleans your butt for you...
WARNING: THIS IS ONLY A JOKE. I DO NOT USE THE WHIPPLE TO CLEAN MY BUM.
I am likely too young to understand this
when you title a video with "the truth about" it makes it seem like your either going to debunk it or propose a conspiracy theory
How refreshing to discover a "truth about.." video that actually gives the objective facts.
@Arsene Who? No, he is telling us that people have no brain it is just empty scull with one speck of paint but not moving inside.
When you try to respond a problem with the phrase, "Humanity need to put aside the differences to overcome this problem", you need to complete the phrase with the Meme, "sounds good, doesn't work"
Yeah...the ultimate Utopia thing will never happen. Even if it is forced on us...death will be enormous.
Humanity could've worked together and easily stop this pandemic. Except what actually happened is China didn't tell anyone that a virus existed as it spread all over the place. Then the idiots protest the stay at home order because the bill or rights doesn't say they can't. Now we're stuck at home.
I have already explained all he details of our India's ASAT test in my video.India did the test very responsibly. India had to do it now before rules came into place. Now India can claim a right over forming the rules for space weapons. Space warfare isn't a good thing, but india had no choice but to conduct the test before being forced to accept rules, adequate by US, Russia and China
Asat test are bad but had no choice
@@GareebScientist you are doing nice work but I always see UA-cam hiding your name from search list by your name.
Hello Sir !!! You Are My Favorite youtuber
Explain what you mean by "had no choice"?
@@shakedbm3829 Bro First Watch His Video
Wipple shields are tank armor, in their case its called spaced armor, most modern tanks use it as part of there armor such as the famous M1 Abrams. Its been around for a while now, some of the Panzer 3 and Panzer 4 variants have it to protect against anti tank rifles
what if you were hit while doing some maintenance outside? would you just be obliterated??
Space suit's have a sort of proto-whipple shield as well, it's part of why they are so enormously bulky.
It doesn't have the metal second layer, but the outer layer will usually shatter the micrometeorite and just leave you with a few tiny puncture wounds.
If you are talking about something bigger than 1cm... well you are going to have a very bad day. If you are lucky, the impact won't break the seals on your suit and you'll be able to drag yourself back into the ship.
If it's something big enough, i.e 3cm+, you are very, very dead.
Pretty much what would happen to a person on earth who was hit by a really high powered bullet. Probably not obliterated, but...it wouldn't be pretty.
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*Imagine doing a Spacewalk and you look up and see Tesla Spaceman coming at you faster than you can say, "Houston..Fuck My Life!!!"*
Green Jetstream, they would clean the pool and do a retake...
I love how Degrass Tyson is the face of alarmism, it's so true.
Mark Davis All science advocates start exaggerating after a while because that’s necessarily how you get laymen’s attention.
@@theespatier4456 you aren't wrong, but that doesn't mean it's a good thing to do
Great video, good info, and no hype or catastrophism.
*To not cause a major Panic, he didn't mention all the 15k+ Frozen Turds and Diarrhea-Nebulas from "Taco-Night" that's up there.*
Remember back when we thought orbiting a lot of small thin copper pieces to boost radio receiver on earth was a good idea? good ol days xD
We need to get our shit together and stop polluting or we are going to be stuck on this dying rock!
The Kessler syndrome is terrifying, especially when you realize how little we are doing about it...
at least I've learned a new phenomenon from a space nerd. Thank you. At first I thought it was a disease, "syndrome." LOL
Im not gay.
@@pontusvongeijer8986 you probably are fighting your desires, resisting your true self. Why did you bring it up here?
Go to a gay website and tell them that.
Divad Ignawm
But I am on a gay website. UA-cam is super gay, but it still has good videos. :)
Big congratulations to you for using citations in your video. Doing this is almost unheard of. So cool!
That 2 wall debris shield for the space craft was also used in WW2 by the Germans on some tanks. was able to slow and redirect travel in a non straight trajectory and keep tungsten projectiles from penetrating the main armor of the tank.
I believe it's called "spaced armor" or "hollow plate" (the idea is to break the projectile into tiny fragment using first layer that's high hardness-optimized let them lose some kinetic energy by traveling a void between the armor and expand their area of impact then let second more ductile layer that's high compressive, shear and tensile strength-optimized absorb the residual kinetic energy, although the void could also be filled shear thickening fluid-impregnated ductile high compressive, shear and tensile strength-optimized fabric like kevlar to significantly increase the protection and reduce spalling).
A very good explanation of the topic.
I wonder what your thoughts are on Kessler syndrome, where the density of the space debris is high enough that it could cause a cascade reaction where each impact increases the chance another will occur.
You glanced over the issue pretty quickly, and i'm not sure the risk is as small as you suggest.
Should a sufficiently sized piece of debris be struck and destroyed, the resulting domino effect could be what (as some science media outlets like to call it) traps us without acces to earth orbit for a significant time.
Good question. I realize I'm 3 years late to the party but I too was wondering where reality lay insofar as inbetween worrying about the Kessler phenomena and space being vast. That is, what is/is there a point of no return where orbital debris act as a planetary moat?
We need MegaMaid.
What a great eye-opening video!
India tested its anti satellite missile in lower Earth orbit (LEO) and debris in LEO decay or burns in atmosphere while falling back to earth. So there is nothing so wrong India have done by testing its anti satellite missile, if India is wrong then USA is also wrong because they are responsible for creating huge numbers of space debris since 50 years
@@Ujjawal_UA-cam what an odd Reply to the Comment "What a great eye-opening video!". Everything you've said is already in the video... as well as loads of interesting "eye-opening" info! Oh well, nevermind, eh? 😎
@@JohnDoe-tx8lq truth is customized and made little against India, that is why posted my reply. One should know full truth not half and video is showing half truth
@@Ujjawal_UA-cam ....and yet the video talks about the US missile debris as well. The truth is there, but you CHOOSE to see the video as anti-India so by your logic, I can say you are anti-US. Seems you didn't have any confidence in what you said as you posted it as a reply to an unrelated comment, rather than posting it as an original Comment so more people would see. Poor old India, Real Engineering is obviously against it!
@@JohnDoe-tx8lq I think you lost your mind and only you see is my comment, I just expressed my views and many people in comments talking against recent test of India so I just told them to know full truth and I'm not anti USA, I am just exploring the truth what USA did and what India did so please don't point out at me, read my comments with calm and cool head
6:50 that same concept is used on tanks in the form of spaced armor, used to protect against HEAT shells.
I wonder how much debris the death star would produce ??
That's not important now
@@Proxlynmeow says the general working on his own death star
Well, it wiped out the ewoks, so....extinction level event. www.space.com/32381-ewok-extinction-star-wars-death-star.html
Enough
@@Proxlynmeow >>> DEPENDS on whether it is *Disney* or *Non-Disney* STAR WARS...😊
Would it be possible to utilize magnets to "clean up"?
You’d have to get very proximate to the debris for the field to pick up I’d imagine, pretty tedious
Try picking up aluminum with magnet and figure it out yourself.
If speed is involved maybe. I don't know. m.ua-cam.com/video/yk4ACjzDFRY/v-deo.html
Aluminum, kevlar, titanium, and carbon fibre are not magnetic
No. Not all of pieces are magnetic and these that are, are flying through the Earth's magnetic field without a problem.
"The Truth About Space Debris"
*Starlink:*
It's not a space debris because SpaceX can control those satellites I mean like control them to dodge other debris/satellites
@@felreymiguel5734 well, there is always a rate of failure. Way oversimplified, the amout of space debrie is equals the amout of stuff we send up there. (within a constant faktor). So way more satelites(e.g. starlink) => way more debrie(in the long run).
Part of the idea of starlink (source needed) was to have many satelites to be less vulnurable to failure.
@@hirnlos9462 hi deutscher :)
Starlink satellites will deorbit automatically in 2 years because of their low orbit. As long as their lifespan allows, the satellites will regularly be boosted back up to keep them from falling down.
This shows that the people of Starlink take space debris into consideration.
@@1995TheDude Have you seen the movie, "Gravity?" If one satellite gets hit accidentally, e.g., by a meteor or intentionally, e.g., by an ASAT (Anti-Satellite weapon), it can break apart and create a debris field that spreads out in all directions. If one piece from that field splashes another satellite, the effect gets multiplied exponentially. With so many Starlink satellites following the same interlocking orbits, a chain reaction can ensue. Not only would Starlink get affected but other satellites and spacecraft would get affected as well by Starlink debris. Keep in mind that some of the debris could be as tiny as a grain of sand but still capable of causing serious damage that initiates another chain reaction. Countless chunks & particles could remain in orbit for an indefinite time. There would be no way to keep track of it all or clean it up. At the same approximate altitude, a Starlink debris field would define a new impassable outer shell or sphere above the atmosphere that wraps around the Earth endangering, e.g., future SpaceX launches to Mars.
I just loved this short documentary. The facts, the images, and the precise description of information was like a bedtime story for space loving people.
politicians: why should we care about cleaning up space debris??
engineers: but we get to build a giant frickin laser.... and it won't kill people (i think.... i hope)
We need to start an International Consortium to remove the space debris
*20k+ Objects in orbit. 15k of them are Frozen Turds. I bet there's a few "Diarrhea Nebulas" up there, from Taco-Nights.*
Funded solely by the countries that put it there?
Yes, joint collaboration is important to remove space debris
First we have to remove bigger debris, (something at the range of 2 metres to- max ), and it includes lasts stage, destroyed satellite's parts, panels etc because that types of large debris are the main source of creating further smaller particles ( size from mm to cm)
But where will I find loot when I'm stuck in space
Simply deorbiting (getting them below 150km) will solve most problems. Geostationary orbit will need special attention as it may be easier to loft them into the moon rather than drop them lower.
It could very well be true that cooperation between countries to solve the space junk issue may also spawn technologies for better shielding that could be used for future space flights.
Wipple shielding, aka: spaced armor
Most underrated comment I've seen all day! 😆
I was thinking that exact thing.
Space debris is like plastic in the ocean, it`s bad for everyone :(
I don't live in the ocean I'm drinking out of a plastic bottle right now
@@scientistsbaffled5730 Ya it's always someone elses problem. The earth is segregated so well that there is no way that polluted oceans and other waterways can affect you in any way, right? Any clue on the probability that your plastic bottle will be recycled .. or even disposed of in a manner that renders it completely inert until 1000's of years later when it has broken down completely? Ya I didn't think so. It's pretty damn low. What about the plastic bottle of the guy next to you sucking on his? What about the 100's of millions that just like you, just don't care? Plastic is much more than just a physical hazard. Water, the universal solvent, is very good at leaching out the plasticizers and other toxins that plastic contains. Suck on a water bottle that has sat out in the sun a few days sealed. You won't like the taste. If the sight of pollution, especially plastic, doesn't bother you at all then I can see it now .. you sitting on the rotting deck of your trailer, screen door rusting off its filthy hinges, dog wandering around looking vainly for a place to die ...
@@xenuno I'm going to buy some styrofoam to throw it in a river.
@@scientistsbaffled5730 No surprise there ... you'll show them! See your behavior and the other hundreds of millions can't be changed, so the key to a healthy planet is to not make things out of materials that persist in the wild for centuries. Course we'll never get national politicians to think and act on the issue as they are defo under the thumb of the plastics industry and other related interests. So for now you're safe to keep doing the stupid things that you do.
@@xenuno water sucks anyways ...I'm also going to keep breathing too... but according to you it's probably pollution to right?
NASA on every ASAT test:-
When USA tested ASAT: It's good, it is for betterment of the mankind, no one is going to say any word.
When Russia tested: Uh, it's not good, but we not gonna say anything, we don't want a war with Russia.
When China: It's bad, it's really bad, we need to do something.
When India: It's gonna kill all human, it will destroy the world economy and all our satellites.
Even hypocrisy has a limit.
Madhrchod h in buosdiwalo ki gand jalti humare suceess se
True ..!! 😑😶
Lool sad but true
The problem with India's ASAT missile was that they hit it going upwards, while the others hit it going down; almost all of the debris from US, Russian, and Chinese ASAT was burned up. india's test created thousands of more debris.
Pfeffer and you burnt the debris created by US, Russia & China, I guess.
The footnotes in the description are top notch, thank you!
"Mainstream media" *shows JRE Podcast*
Yeah... yeah I like that
Yep sell out..check matthew north channel.
@@shanosantwanos3908 Mathew North is a conspiracy theorist channel.
M8 JRE has millions of listeners worldwide, a lot of whom believe they are more intelligent and/or informed than their peers. It's subversive mainstream media.
Its true, JRE is great but its now a mainstream platform. Plus NDT is more hyperbolic than DJT
He was talking about NDT, he should have said mainstream scientist
Watch the anime: PLANETES. It's exactly about the subject.
THANK YOU! I saw this anime when I was younger, and not knowing what it was has been bugging me ever since.
We need to send Rhett and Link up there. The Space Garbage Men will clean it up just fine
Needs a few Satellites with giant nets to start collecting the garbage
The concern Tyson had is how the debris could grow exponentially due to each collision generating new debris.
@CK Lim the starlink project involves small satellites in low altitude orbits (around 300 and 400km) the debris they can create will fastly fall and evaporate
@CK Lim I assumed you talked about starlink, now I'm not very sure by the way...
@@jdl455 no, you are right... starlink satellites are at 550Km of altitude, low enough so when there practical life ends, it will naturally reentry earth's atmosphere, now im not sure either if upon impact, the small debris would evaporate but it does sounds feasible
WAIT TILL NIBURU ( Planet X) PASSES THROUGH.OUGHT TO BE ONE BIG FIREWORKS DISPLAY.
But after collision we are left with smaller, less dangerous pieces [stil dangerous, per the video] but more likely to fall back, burn up in re-entry and if this is true, could future pieces be equipped with "self destruct modules" like plastic explosive to blow them to bits / somehow be safer??
That's it ... I'm going to stop complaining every time a moth hits my car windscreen.
But it's always in the line of view... :-)
14:26 May I suggest that we call it the Low Orbit Ion Cannon, and we call the organization handling it the Global Defense Initiative?
Concept: *Exists*
GDI: *Loic*
I love those giant golf balls with hidden dishes inside 😎
We need to finaly develop kinetic barriers.
Next video: describe the shield needed to protect a rocket against typical dust when flying at:
* usual speed
* 1% the speed of light
Brilliant, and non-sensationalist, analysis. Thanks in particular to the logical commentary from about 12mins into the video. The message is clear and not dramatic/pretentious.
ok loser
Space debris is a real concern
But what if there are two or several particles flying in the raw? One will make a hole and another will flying through?
By having multiple layer of whipple shield
It is time to develop a deflector dish.
With the increase of space missions, maybe some kind of salvaging operations would be a good idea, to reutilize some of the expensive components.
MrR3set un that’s what spaceX is doing currently! They are able to reuse rockets up to 10 times! They do this by landing the rocket on land by turning on the engine on the last second
You lovely cuddly leprechaun creature i enjoyed this.
I have been waiting for a video about space debris. Yay.
lol US is telling India it was stupid for them to launch the anti satellite missile, while they also sent many anti satellite into orbit themselves
*still, India must be punished*
That was the airforce
General Prodigy NASA is not allowed to do anything military related
Stop it with “other countries did that so i also can do that”,Just shut the fuck up
@@cr15py72 lol Tell me what is the success rate of NASA.
The Anime series 'Planetes' deals with the cost of debris collection and disposal in 2070s.
More people should know about Planetes!
Though, maybe in 2070s the cost to space has go down a bit we can have trash collector in space.....
Joel Reid Well, the first episode did.
NASA: Well looks like our decades of endeavors have resulted in Earth's orbit being mass polluted, how do we solve this one?
*India tests their anti-satellite missile at low earth orbit.
NASA: 💡
lol.
Its not that simple. anti sattellite test produce as much debis as NASA put into space within several decades. Anti satellite test are the quickest way to pollute LEO.
@@Alternatives_Universum watch the whole video
😁
Actually India's test was pretty productive it allowed us to track how space debris falls into the atmosphere over time.
Video is very well done. Just a minor comment: Operation Burnt Frost from 2008 should not be referred to as an ASAT "test." That operation was done to destroy non-functional U.S. National Reconnaissance Office satellite USA-193, which represented a small, but non-negligible threat to the (planet-wide) general population due to the large amount of frozen hydrazine fuel onboard. This was not really a test, just a highly unconventional deployment of the intercept capability of the SM-3 missile.
i somewhere read that it was just an excuse used to show that america can also shoot down sats without making it look like a response to china's test.
@@manojbairwa2853 Cause it is exactly that. Like USA cares about such a small pollution a satellite can do, while they bomb countries with uranium shells. Yea right. They destroyed it cause of the environment, not to show their capabilities. Riiiight..... Only american can say an excuse like that and think its totally reasonable. Looking at the guy above your comment.
I can't help that think that this video undersells the danger of Kessler syndrome (a situation where a planets orbit is inundated by so much debris that further space launches are extremely perilous and most likely only add to the amount of debris). As pointed out in this video, each successive collision adds thousands of potential debris to a huge variety of orbits. As these new debris spread the danger of further collisions increases and consequently the amount of debris can explode exponentially in a matter of years. While it's true that the space around Earth is extremely, incomprehensibly empty today we currently stand at the beginning of a problem which given our current management will only get worse. I for one would like to live in a world where communications and GPS satellites don't need armor stronger than a tanks to survive.
Wow, so the entire article was lost on you?
GPS satellites don't have to worry much about collisions.
And debris in LEO degrades rapidly.
@@TheOwenMajor Here's a prediction of space debris including LEO objects from NASA with the assumption that we immediately stop all rocket launches: wp-assets.futurism.com/2013/09/Space-Debris-2.jpg
While its true that most LEO debris degrade rapidly many do not, and most of our debris from regular launches is deposited in these orbits. LEO also the most problematic sphere for space industry since every launch by necessity must traverse these altitudes to reach higher safer orbits.
Another point the video didn't mention is that debris can breed more debris. Pieces can collide with one another, creating smaller, harder to track pieces on erratic courses, often breaching into 'safe' orbits where satellites are less prepared for collisions.
The video rightly points out that many voices are alarmist about these concerns, which I fully agree with. But it seems lacking for a channel focused on engineering to mention a problem without addressing the worst case scenario.
Shuttles lost to window bangs: 0
Shuttles lost to NASA design: awkward
"international effort to unite mankind"
the Imperium of Man just got started
Thank you for the informative video and greetings to Chris Hadfield :-)
Those politicians! We'd probably all be better off without them!
Like others, I'm surprised you didn't mention Kessler syndrome at all.
IstasPumaNevada What’s that like autism?
@@theespatier4456 Nope. I might r/woooosh myself but here we go...
When debris collides with debris, it makes more debris, which collides with more debris, and so on.
I don't know if this is a real scientific term, but it has quite its place in space.
INTERNATIONAL PLANETARY DEFENSE LASER LETS GO! First to clean up, and hopefully by developing the technology we may be able to defend against asteroids (however unlikely)
I have 753 debris in my KSP sandbox save
Edit: I see my comment is getting noticed and 5 of my missions to minmus and back we're ruined by debris colliding to my rocket and 3 kerbals (jeb, Valentina and neil Kerman) we're stuck in space and the engine was destroyed meaning a C7 SSTO was launched to save them they survived and we're walking normally on kerbin stuck for 3 days in space
Ah, deqnq, just so you know the plural past tense of "to be" is "were". The word "we're" which you seem so fond of USING for said plural past tense is a contraction meaning "we are". It is similar to "you're" (you are) and they're (they are). I do not fault you for not knowing those facts. You're merely a product of your (what is called in the U.S.) public education and I seriously doubt you "teachers" were aware of the difference, either.
That's why I try to make any launched stage either completely unable to reach orbit, or able to accelerate out of LKO (Low Kerbin Orbit).
Good job balancing risk vs reality. Yes it's a big concern but with the right agreements in place it should be manageable. Also, good job for not condoning India's actions as many have done. International agreements between spacefaring nations are definitely overdue.
When was the last time you heard about international agreements that actually had an impact on, helped solving an issue? When? Our species wants to commit suicide for it hopes that afterwards Mad Max will roam the deserted high-ways. We love Dystopia and deeply hate Utopia, you leftist snow-flake.
@@Thaulopi Wow you missed the mark by a very wide margin. I'm definitely not a fan of global governance or globalism (que the Alex Jones meme), which is why I used the word agreements (as in voluntary compliance) rather than laws. Sounds weak but it would be far better than what we have now, which is basically nothing.
@@DennisKapatos Well, the end of my post was clearly irony relating to your aforementioned club of inane nay-sayers- What I meant was: We, the species, need a paradigm change. Governance has failed us, always! What is needed is a multi variable thing called ...Sophia. One variable, just for you to pique your interest into German Philosophy is Imanuel Kant: Kategorischer Imperativ: Catogoric Imperativ, that would impede you to kill someone, to harm an inscet, to hit your daughter, so call somebdy and inane nay-sayers. This is what we, you and I, need. Hugs my friend.
US tests anti satellite missile : OK
RUSSIA tests the same : OK
CHINA tests the same : OK
INDIA joins the group : WAIT THAT'S ILLEGAL......
Exactly
He called out the other ASAT tests too and pointed out the more recent one indicating that it has become a norm for nations now to show their strength by conducting ASAT tests. Besides, he did compare India's ASAT with the US one and showed how most of the debris fell back to earth and evaporated within months. What part of it did you not get lol?
I was just watching youtube and all of a sudden with no autoplay and no clicking I was suddenly TELEPORTED to this video and it startled me
I wonder what happened im so confused
Thanks for the hard-hitting facts about Kessler syndrome
*Hard hitting , huh?*
I'll see myself out
Exactly. Not even mentioned...i was waiting for it but it never came...
I wondered at first seeing Modiji here. What an unexpected cameo😂😂
Yeah, I was also thinking what is he doing here 😁
There is a part of me that thinks "if it costs $100,000 per kilogram to get materials up there, maybe we should take old satellites to the ISS and see what we can recycle?"
I know that the cost per kilogram is going down, but the concept remains I think.
Not a bad idea actually.
Having sweeper satellites designed to capture defunct ones would make sense.
Or as the video says, just install a kind of laser satellite capability on...something. I'm sure no one would object to the ISS having a laser that could protect it from potential collisions. Or even just a small missile system that could blow up threats. As long as it's on the ISS it should be less of a political issue as well.
These satellites are in different orbits, different velocities, etc. You'd need a specific mission to grab a specific satellite. De-orbiting mechanisms seem like a no-brainier though.
this needs a follow up
It was not condemned because it was an unnecessary political posture.
It was condemned because it was an unnecessary political posture done by one of the newer countries in the political arena. When the US did the same in 2008, it was OK, since the US did it. When Russia did it 2015, it was OK since Russia did it. When China did it 2007, it was semi OK, since China did it, and they are not 100% accepted to do this type of stuff. But India or anyone else doing it is very not OK, how dare they do the same we did too.
We've also done nuclear tests back in the day . . . we've since stopped. History doesn't forever burden entities with the label of hypocrite.
And to the extent that they are, this is a case of, "well not everyone gets to do this or we're fucked"
It wasn't ok when China did it either. US was pretty against it. China just didn't bother caring because US simply don't like them anyways. US didn't say much about Russia because Russia had the technology for awhile much like the US. It's rather pointless to complain now.
The one that is being hypocritical is really just US government since its only them that is voicing concerns for everything. The scientists are simply complaining about ALL tests since regardless of who does it, it's ruining everyone.
@@Xelbiuj I will disagree in just one point. If some entity did something in the past - it carries this burden on forever. For example. US would be forever guilty of atomic bombings or destroying satellites. That's actually exactly the reason why other countries should not ever do that - to not take this burden even a little bit off US (or other countries who did similar crimes).
But the altitude at which Indian ASAT test was conducted it will take 4 weeks to burn down compared to 27 years by Chinese test
Also no one concerned with Amazon launching 3500 nano satellites,mother of all space debris being planned to be created but a poor country being blamed for conducting a test, simulation doesn't give satisfaction an actual test is needed to be done
Ill volunteer to be a space janitor, flying around in my smal ship collecting debris
Star Trek on point again with featuring a humongous deflector on every ship design