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Bro, how about a C0R0 speed run. Would also be fun and can be more relatable for the non-spenders and casual players perspective to see which characters comes out at the top.
Sad to see yoimiya, character that supposed to be the best single target damage dealer not even in the list. That just how bad yoimiya is. Come on hoyoverse if u cant buff yoimiya, at least release new artifact for yoimiya
any claymore user can cancel his charge turning him into the easiest, i have done all the natlan legends trophies as well some of those are well beyond this difficulty (no hit challenges in particular)
Been waiting for "this type of challenge videos" for a while now, i love the damage showcases/challenges, it's so much fun to watch especially at whale levels that I'll probably never see on my account 😭😝
Xilonen is indeed an exceptional buffer. However it's not that she destroys Kazuha based on the uses in this video. It's that her constellations are considerably better. At C0 they are very similar in power level. In fact they are so similar that they are almost the same unit, with the major differences being geo vs anemo and healer vs grouper.
I think c6 Chevruse is in the same tier too and only weakness is limited to overload team but there are enough pyro and electro characters that she is such a powerhouse in element restricting modes like imagination theater when it’s pyro plus electro which happens fairly often
@@TerraTheWise of which few speedrunners even use nowadays. He wasnt even used for arlecchinos speedrun. Xilonen is better because she can apply her buffs alot faster than kazuha and her buffs last almost twice as long.
Honestly, it's Furina impact out here (with xilonen as well). Great to see the hydro archon being at the top. Also, Mualani was expected. She is really good! Great vid
Actually ironic. She takes care of the dead but she herself just won't die in the meta lol and just as iwtl said there's still room for improvement. If i only have C6R5 characters like those I would like to tryhard Hu Tao's time to be below 10s.
Mualani's not catching waves, she's making them. Mavuika info is seemingly right around the corner too. It's hard to imagine how far she'll end up going.
this video deserves way more views than it actually got until today. It takes sooo so long to record these runs. So much hard work, editing and such a great content
Banger vid as always IWTL! Next time, do a video on the WL9 Automated Supercomputing Field Generator boss without breaking its shield, which is equivalent to about 20.8 million HP.
Very fun video! Would love to see one with a bit more f2p restrictions in mind, maybe C0 and R1 at most. Would give the low spenders/f2p a good look at what characters are still very strong at a much lower cash investment.
YAY! Another challenge video! Time to get hot cocoa and rewatch it with my dad because its our tradition now for every one of your challenge videos. Jean made me laugh more than it should. Thank you!
Idk if there's much crit fishing in these runs because alot of characters will need multiple hits. It's only realistic to be crit fishing with nuke characters e.g. Mualani
I'd say the baseline for a solid DPS now is either Alhaitham or Navia. Any character that's on the same level as Neuvillette, Arlecchino, and Mualani are OP. They are like top percentile for main DPS.
Her C2, C4, and C6 are all mid as damage-boosting for her personal DPS, which just goes to show how overtuned her base kit already is when she was designed back in early 2021
Honestly I would like to see if Dev put this 5m HP Capybara but with 4-5 of them running around trial ground and see which DPS is the fastest to clear them all. It will be better to determine overall performance, not just “single target high HP” scenario like this. Hopefully one day.
Hi IWTL, IMO, you did Xilonen a disservice by not immediately spamming plunges and saving Q for the end of the rotation. C6 Xilonen can last for 4 (or 5 in high hitlag scenarios) plunges, and the C6 dmg increase applies to collision as well if you can land it. Your N2Q opening lead to getting much less C6-buffed dmg instances off, resulting in a slower clear than what she is capable of. Great video outside of that!
There's this recent development of a Xilonen and Chiori core that I really wanna try, so I'm planning to save for a Chiori rerun after Citlali and Mavuika. It's looking to be a really solid core for any phec team.
There are many factors to consider: enemy HP, aggression level, whether the enemy moves around, survivability needs, whether it's AOE or single target, if it’s multi-wave, the distance between enemies, and so on. This specific enemy has a lot of HP, making it ideal for one-shot characters, so it’s no surprise that Arlecchino and Maulani are top choices here. If the boss had around 3 million HP, these rankings might change, as some quick-swap characters could deal enough damage to finish in one cycle. In AOE multi-wave scenarios, a Nilou team would likely be top choice, but in a setup like facing three Maguu Kenki, it might be in second place-unless each Kenki had around 5 million HP, where Nilou’s team could shine again. This highlights how much the scenario impacts rankings. When considering 'the best character overall,' we’d need to look at who consistently performs well across all scenarios. While there’s no character that ranks first in every situation, some, like Arlecchino, often make the top 5. Though she isn’t the best in multi-wave AOE due to her close-range DPS style, she’s still strong enough to be in the top. If I were to make a recommendation, I'd say that over the past four years, sub-DPS characters have shown to make the biggest difference-not main DPS or support characters. Sub-DPS is crucial, and we see this with Xilonen appearing in many team setups. Some teams even lack a dedicated support but always have a sub-DPS. Furina C6, for example, relies on sub-DPS for maximizing her damage, which is why she can outperform Xilonen in many cases. For an F2P team, I’d go with Hyperbloom Nahida at C0, which excels in nearly any situation. At C6, I’d recommend a Furina-Chiori sub-DPS team, as it’s versatile, effective in both single-target and multi-target fights with a good Hydro DPS, and performs well universally. I know this was a long explanation, but these factors show why one video alone can be misleading if players don’t understand the full range of possibilities in this game. As a Day One Genshin player, I’ve seen how different scenarios can lead to very different outcomes.
As an Ayaka main, I'm so happy to see her perform so well despite being quite an ancient character. I absolutely love using her and it's great to see that she is still a really strong character even when there better ones already ^^
I love these videos, I can understand why they would be a real pain to make but in a perfect world, I'd love to see these every Abyss cycle just covering speedruns
Reminder that Xilonen being better at buffing than Kazuha only applies for whales since Kazuha has dogshit vertical investment especially when compared to Xilonen's 💀
She does have better buffing than Kazuha at C0 though. I say this solely because she can shred geo while Kazuha can't. Otherwise, the increased dmg bonus he gives is so miniscule it isn't really worth considering most of the time. Especially considering the fact that most people use him with Fav Sword at C0 which often lessens his overall dmg bonus buff.
You should definitely do a part 2 to this with the rest of the characters and also some 4* showcases. Would be entertaining to watch 😮 great video nontheless.
I'm trying to build a character and team in a way that it can survive the capybara charged attack and then healed quickly enough to not die. And i was thinking MAX HP Furina, max ATK qiqi, max HP Dehya, and Hydro fourth unit, preferably something like Barbara
The thing that nobody is understanding is that C6 Furina is COMPLETELY different character from C0 Furina. Her C6 literally has no caviats. The HP loss, Healing, and Buff being almost Instantaneous without any other character - ALL of this she does herself with just 2 pokes of her Normal Attack. However, this is Nothing like her playstyle in C0. She's still great but stop overhyping her
The fact that she is this overpowered compared to other c6 speaks for itself. Damage, healing, buffing (no one is overhyping c6 furina). Btw the video is all c6, no need to talk about c0 furina, the others are also c6. She is HER.
Wanted to see that Yelan speed run so bad but happy I got to see her name with the S-tier in the final results table. She also kinda did the most damage in that Chiori run IMO.
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Including the builds would have been very nice.
just use c6r5 scara with elegy + scroll faruzan + c2 furina + c4 jean noblesse or bennett on a 5* weapon
Bro, how about a C0R0 speed run. Would also be fun and can be more relatable for the non-spenders and casual players perspective to see which characters comes out at the top.
What do you think about beginning the hu tao rotation with a burst for xilonen to crystallize?
Sad to see yoimiya, character that supposed to be the best single target damage dealer not even in the list. That just how bad yoimiya is. Come on hoyoverse if u cant buff yoimiya, at least release new artifact for yoimiya
Jean: Look how many C6 R5s they need to mimic a fraction of my power.
fall damage mvp !!
I died more times than I’d like to admit to this capybara…
Anyways, great video!
any claymore user can cancel his charge turning him into the easiest, i have done all the natlan legends trophies as well some of those are well beyond this difficulty (no hit challenges in particular)
kkkkkkkkkkk btw great runs.
i bet you were sweaty
@@GunnerChopper yup & cheap
thank you for clorinde run it was perfect
The real winners are xilonen and furina ,they worked overtime in this video.
C6 bro , C6 Furina vape does more damage than Neuvillette
Been waiting for "this type of challenge videos" for a while now, i love the damage showcases/challenges, it's so much fun to watch especially at whale levels that I'll probably never see on my account 😭😝
Xilonen is indeed an exceptional buffer. However it's not that she destroys Kazuha based on the uses in this video. It's that her constellations are considerably better. At C0 they are very similar in power level. In fact they are so similar that they are almost the same unit, with the major differences being geo vs anemo and healer vs grouper.
For reaction based comps C2 kazuha is still better than C2 Xilonen.
I think c6 Chevruse is in the same tier too and only weakness is limited to overload team but there are enough pyro and electro characters that she is such a powerhouse in element restricting modes like imagination theater when it’s pyro plus electro which happens fairly often
He isn't dominating these whale speedruns anymore unlike before. 😢
@@TerraTheWise Yeah but reaction based comps are way behind in speedruns these days...
@@TerraTheWise of which few speedrunners even use nowadays. He wasnt even used for arlecchinos speedrun. Xilonen is better because she can apply her buffs alot faster than kazuha and her buffs last almost twice as long.
Honestly, it's Furina impact out here (with xilonen as well). Great to see the hydro archon being at the top. Also, Mualani was expected. She is really good! Great vid
There's was a whale speedrun for 10 milion HP boss for C6 characters , the top 10 teams literally all use furina and no.2 team was furina plunge DPS
Unsurprisingly, she has arguably the best element, a ridiculously busted kit and insane constellations. What an absolute unit.
she's not the archon the real archon died smh
@@purplerainPR
No one cares lil bro
@@purplerainPR when will people realize that Furina was still just as much an archon as Focalors was. Literally the same people just split in 2
Jean solos. Literally.
Another IWTL banger. Awesome concept and thanks for letting me play a small part!
15:48 and here is Sigewinne!
Ok ok, slotting a joke in the middle of the video is quite funn- OHHH MYYY GOOODDDD!!!!
💀💀💀
The problem is that team has 96% res shred or 48% for enemies with 0 res
Hutao was released 3 years and 9 month ago yet still relevant to this day.
Still putting the fun in funeral to this day
Definitely she works wonder in C2 Furina and also with the release of Xianyun and Xilonen she just keep getting better
Actually ironic. She takes care of the dead but she herself just won't die in the meta lol and just as iwtl said there's still room for improvement. If i only have C6R5 characters like those I would like to tryhard Hu Tao's time to be below 10s.
@@fuyutsukirai imo you don't even need that. Having hu tao and furina as is already enough. Just think of the constellations as gravy
Mualani's not catching waves, she's making them. Mavuika info is seemingly right around the corner too. It's hard to imagine how far she'll end up going.
Seeing the old “this type of challenge video” made me feel so nostalgic… I remember watching it back when it released. Good old days
DHCWSP is just the Genshin final boss
Damn Ayato got the emotional support treatment 😂
I like the team though. It's pretty strong
@@DoT_TD yes I do play that team at C0 but c6 Furina and c6 Yelan with c0 ayato is overkill💀
Not only did he fail, he even died in the end. What a flop 😂
Mualani is such a fucking monster...
I know these videos take a lot of effort to make but they're propably my favorite of the channel
I have not watched the video yet but I can guess the winner is mualani.
I was right
For me the winner is Jean, hands down.
best single target dps in the game!
@@spilledgutzzz9376 no, best 5 and below targets dps in this game, see how she destroys triple magu while fraudvilette shivers in fear
@@karrot6941fraudvillette is crazzyyy but you’re so right queen💜
12:35 2 plunge? It's crazy!! It's like Furina said 'fine I will do it myself'
Honestly I think this was your best video. It had passion, fun, collaboration, and new tidbits. I loved every minute.
this video deserves way more views than it actually got until today. It takes sooo so long to record these runs. So much hard work, editing and such a great content
Banger vid as always IWTL! Next time, do a video on the WL9 Automated Supercomputing Field Generator boss without breaking its shield, which is equivalent to about 20.8 million HP.
Very fun video! Would love to see one with a bit more f2p restrictions in mind, maybe C0 and R1 at most. Would give the low spenders/f2p a good look at what characters are still very strong at a much lower cash investment.
Won't be possible until hoyo makes the cons be temporarily deactivated
@@zzxzsselahe can always borrows some accounts to test on
Well Jean wins that, no contest.
It'll be also a good idea to make a 4 star DPS showdowns like whales doing Gaming, Noelle, Yanfei etc. that would be awesome to see too!
YAY! Another challenge video! Time to get hot cocoa and rewatch it with my dad because its our tradition now for every one of your challenge videos. Jean made me laugh more than it should. Thank you!
For newer players: not only are these whale builds but they are all crit damage with very little crit rate (crit fishing). Also they have no ER.
Idk if there's much crit fishing in these runs because alot of characters will need multiple hits. It's only realistic to be crit fishing with nuke characters e.g. Mualani
No crit fishing besides top 2 probably
@@takodachich.515 show me the builds (hate that builds were not included)
Are you trying to like discredit the video or something how does that matter
@snowmeltt I don't think so I think it's just to let new players know that won't be achievable damage for them unless they pay thousands
Jean: i might be the slowest from all of you. But I can kill it alone
Tao still so high without any op cost is so amazing
That girl is crazy
I hope Citlali will kick Yelan/XQ and make Hu Tao, Furina, Xilonen even greater
@@CelVini won't happen for Hu Tao, elemental gauge stage stuff
@@CelVini It's hard for any cryo unit to apply cryo fast enough for characters like Hu Tao. She can easily override cryo aura with her NA before CA
18:29 Who the hell is Wheelchair?!
Typo for wanderer
it's Ayato
I'd say the baseline for a solid DPS now is either Alhaitham or Navia.
Any character that's on the same level as Neuvillette, Arlecchino, and Mualani are OP. They are like top percentile for main DPS.
I'd love to see how much Mavuika can shake the meta and see a second part of the video with Mavuika on the new teams
All the vape teams get another big boost smh lol, not like they were struggling already
making mualani even better 🙏
Oh dear
Imagine if Mavuika is a support for Mualuani. It’s gonna be crazy as she’s already insanely crazy at the moment.
0:38 He caught me off guard by calling Maguu Kenki, "Kaguu Menki"
Pokémon fans assemble 😂
Mouth typo 😂
I would love to see this keep going with some of the older characters like Eula, Itto, Xiao, etc.
Childe too. Though Xiangling is doing at least half the dps.
@@apanaama3703😢 with Every new hydro character, he seems so much more aged.
I hope they give him some dedicated buffer.
@@apanaama3703 i hope mavuika replaces xiangling in childe team
@@Mc_DeusAuri Oh well I've been hoping Neuvilette replaces Childe in my Xiangling International team but that ended up differently.
Damn Hu Tao could’ve been SS and she’s a character 3 years ago
Her C2, C4, and C6 are all mid as damage-boosting for her personal DPS, which just goes to show how overtuned her base kit already is when she was designed back in early 2021
Disclaimer : No Aloy was harmed in the video 😂💀
Dhwsp doing work on a badass phone run, btw, full support and respect for him 🔥🔥🔥🔥
FINALLYYYYYY IVE BEEN WAITING FORRR THISSSS
can we talk about how sigewinne is above top tier dps like raiden althaitham kinich and navia 😭
Honestly I would like to see if Dev put this 5m HP Capybara but with 4-5 of them running around trial ground and see which DPS is the fastest to clear them all. It will be better to determine overall performance, not just “single target high HP” scenario like this. Hopefully one day.
I love that you can see the full damage numbers with the capybara. It just doesn’t hit the same when the “HP” is only high because of 90% resistance
Jean: Through out heaven and earth, I alone am the fall damage one
Clear winner to me is Furina, which I already expected. Her C6 of biblical proportions just outshine any competition with that absurd damage.
I do not regret c6 chiori its just too goofy and fun
Furina & Xilonen are the new generation of Bennet & Kazuha
It's great to see you work together for these types of videoes
Hi IWTL, IMO, you did Xilonen a disservice by not immediately spamming plunges and saving Q for the end of the rotation. C6 Xilonen can last for 4 (or 5 in high hitlag scenarios) plunges, and the C6 dmg increase applies to collision as well if you can land it. Your N2Q opening lead to getting much less C6-buffed dmg instances off, resulting in a slower clear than what she is capable of. Great video outside of that!
The fact that Tighnari is only standard 5 star but can be on the list, I’m so proud of my forest ranger king
i was waiting for lyney runs and didn't get disappointed!!! xD thank you!
No Alloys were harmed in the making of this video
There's this recent development of a Xilonen and Chiori core that I really wanna try, so I'm planning to save for a Chiori rerun after Citlali and Mavuika. It's looking to be a really solid core for any phec team.
rip to all the older units that didn't get featured.
Lol that Jean run killed me, this is amazing, love these videos!
I wish we has seen how Eula compares nowadays
Omg seeing Sigewinne here made me so happy 💙
There are many factors to consider: enemy HP, aggression level, whether the enemy moves around, survivability needs, whether it's AOE or single target, if it’s multi-wave, the distance between enemies, and so on. This specific enemy has a lot of HP, making it ideal for one-shot characters, so it’s no surprise that Arlecchino and Maulani are top choices here. If the boss had around 3 million HP, these rankings might change, as some quick-swap characters could deal enough damage to finish in one cycle. In AOE multi-wave scenarios, a Nilou team would likely be top choice, but in a setup like facing three Maguu Kenki, it might be in second place-unless each Kenki had around 5 million HP, where Nilou’s team could shine again. This highlights how much the scenario impacts rankings.
When considering 'the best character overall,' we’d need to look at who consistently performs well across all scenarios. While there’s no character that ranks first in every situation, some, like Arlecchino, often make the top 5. Though she isn’t the best in multi-wave AOE due to her close-range DPS style, she’s still strong enough to be in the top.
If I were to make a recommendation, I'd say that over the past four years, sub-DPS characters have shown to make the biggest difference-not main DPS or support characters. Sub-DPS is crucial, and we see this with Xilonen appearing in many team setups. Some teams even lack a dedicated support but always have a sub-DPS. Furina C6, for example, relies on sub-DPS for maximizing her damage, which is why she can outperform Xilonen in many cases.
For an F2P team, I’d go with Hyperbloom Nahida at C0, which excels in nearly any situation. At C6, I’d recommend a Furina-Chiori sub-DPS team, as it’s versatile, effective in both single-target and multi-target fights with a good Hydro DPS, and performs well universally.
I know this was a long explanation, but these factors show why one video alone can be misleading if players don’t understand the full range of possibilities in this game. As a Day One Genshin player, I’ve seen how different scenarios can lead to very different outcomes.
16:42 Not Kinich spinning to the wrong side for xiangling pyronado 😂
Anyone else remembers how they cried when beta nerfed Mualani by 35/40% ?
_Yeah, about that..._
10:03 "From the screen to the ring to the pen to the king"
we needed a diluc run to see how bad the powercreep is
Sigwine: "im a healer"
Genshin Sweats: "Wanna bet? 😏"
As an Ayaka main, I'm so happy to see her perform so well despite being quite an ancient character. I absolutely love using her and it's great to see that she is still a really strong character even when there better ones already ^^
finally "this type of challenge videos" that i've been waiting for
The irony is that I do use some of these vids as white noise to help me sleep, so that bit on 1:40 felt brutal lmaoo
22 Popular teams...
meanwhile jean YEEETTTT
look at that amount of furina and xilonen
I love this challenge so much!
watching this unholy beast get fleeced over and over is immeasurably satisfying
Thanks to the GOAT JVJ for representing us Haitham mains 🙏
Thank God I pulled for xilonen, I found how good xilonen through this. I would pull instantly though if the vid upload early
Do the other older characters as well!!! Its fun to see the powercrrep!!
This is what i've been waiting this whole time, another whale challenger video. i freaking love it
ive been waiting for another video like this for a long time. its finally here.
Need more videos about whale to whale speedrun competitions, love seeing this.
I love these videos, I can understand why they would be a real pain to make but in a perfect world, I'd love to see these every Abyss cycle just covering speedruns
Ohh my gawd it's this type of challenge video, finally
Great Video sir! I know you are busy with all the different games but I really enjoy these kind of vids.
Aloy getting tossed around like a cold salad is FRYING me 😭
The amount of times I watched the previous challenge videos 😭 thanks for the new one 😭
Reminder that Xilonen being better at buffing than Kazuha only applies for whales since Kazuha has dogshit vertical investment especially when compared to Xilonen's 💀
She does have better buffing than Kazuha at C0 though. I say this solely because she can shred geo while Kazuha can't. Otherwise, the increased dmg bonus he gives is so miniscule it isn't really worth considering most of the time. Especially considering the fact that most people use him with Fav Sword at C0 which often lessens his overall dmg bonus buff.
@@user-ot4ly9dp1c hmm but still he does provide elemental infusion and shred damage is nothing to scoff at
makes me so happy to see queen chiori on this list, and so high!
Damn i miss the times when international would be included in these, oh well still my fave team ever
You should definitely do a part 2 to this with the rest of the characters and also some 4* showcases. Would be entertaining to watch 😮 great video nontheless.
BEEN WAITING FOR THISS 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I'm trying to build a character and team in a way that it can survive the capybara charged attack and then healed quickly enough to not die.
And i was thinking MAX HP Furina, max ATK qiqi, max HP Dehya, and Hydro fourth unit, preferably something like Barbara
ONE MORE PLEASE WITH THE NEW EVENT 10M
I love how the dps characters being used as sub dps do around 50% more or less. Yes I'm talking about ayaya
raiden guy messed up the electro crystalize and the electro swirl? or am i missin smt
The thing that nobody is understanding is that C6 Furina is COMPLETELY different character from C0 Furina.
Her C6 literally has no caviats. The HP loss, Healing, and Buff being almost Instantaneous without any other character - ALL of this she does herself with just 2 pokes of her Normal Attack.
However, this is Nothing like her playstyle in C0. She's still great but stop overhyping her
The fact that she is this overpowered compared to other c6 speaks for itself. Damage, healing, buffing (no one is overhyping c6 furina).
Btw the video is all c6, no need to talk about c0 furina, the others are also c6.
She is HER.
I was interested if you were to include kleerina runs, as that team is outputting some great times in speedrunning competitions...
Oh great. I like the wheelchair Ayato team. Finally I can unbench him
Navia vs. Chiori vs. Xilonen when?
Poor itto 😔
why would you compare a dps, a subdps and a support
@@tmsjf0.o Hu Tao vs Xiangling vs Thoma when???
@@tmsjf0.o Probably meant a c6 comparaison, all 3 are dps at that point
@@wynaut2136xilonen is a dps at c0 with furina and xianyun
So what I'm getting from this is Amber is better than Neuvillette
Sigewinn being faster than navia is diobolical
Crazy how xilonen and kazuha have virtually the same buff levels lol
I'm waiting for EULA. I thought EULA would make it into the video, but I'm not sure if EULA can do it in under 20 seconds. Nice video BTW
Oh my God. I need to build my Furina already.
This is insane.
Xilonen, I'll get you on your rerun.. I need all my primos for the pyro archon 😭😭
10:11 you know you are a good DPS when Ayaka is your support
Wanted to see that Yelan speed run so bad but happy I got to see her name with the S-tier in the final results table. She also kinda did the most damage in that Chiori run IMO.
Ayato: Oya oya, you actually care about speedruns? 😂😅