I swear Dave Mackintosh looks and almost drums like the new age Dave Lombardo and now the new drummer Gee Anzalone looks and almost drums like the new age Mike Portney. Awesome metal legends
dave mackintosh have the heart of the songs and the spirit, but anzalone have the great technique and a percent of heart in the songs, cheers from arica-chile machine!!!! i´ve been follow the band since 2001 when the internet albums didn´t come to this far( sorry my english is very poor) my age in that time was 13 and i listened the demo of dragonheart...valley of the damned, that change my musician perspective, un abrazo maestro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can play drums at an alright level, and I can play songs like this. But, keeping in mind that this guy plays like this for 7+ mins on pretty much every song, at this pace on pretty much every song, for 1,5 hour+ concerts ... it's pretty darn amazing that he can achieve such endurance. I'm knackered after playing one of their songs once.
these are always fun to revisit. was lucky enough to see DF once with the original lineup, before zp and dave left. i was in awe watching dave move so fast, i had no idea how intense he would be banging the crap out of his kit.
While I think Gee Anzalone is a fantastic drummer, he lacks the raw power and presence that Dave possesses' as a drummer. I will always miss seeing him on the kit when Dragon Force rolls through on Tour.
@@TheDSSlayer when did I say anything about technicalities? I've seen nothing from Gee that makes him objectively better (or worse) then Dave. There's some subjective arguments to be made, which would be personal taste. Gee looks like a child surrounded by his heroes when he plays, happy and joyful. Dave looks totally engrossed in his performance. I prefer the latter to the former.
dave are the best holy shit...there are great drummers like Lombardo(SLAYER) or Lars(METALLICA) but dave is on another level of speed and accuracy... i fucking love Dragonforce and i think that they are one of the best bands in the world nowadays
People say Dave sucks, but face it, no one has that much energy playing the drums, and keep on playing with full energy for 5+ mins. He's amazing, even tho its the same beats over and over, only a few can actually keep up and play like him. Dragonforce rules :D
the drum appears dancing with him, never another style will replace blast-beat, never another drummer will replace Dave Mackintosh, Keep Rulling man, you rock!
@TheMysteriousSage The Rev was undoubtedly one of the best drummers of our generation. He was a exceptionally gifted drummer. Take the time to listen to each and every song he recorded with A7x. There's so much variety and technical engineuity. And for the record, it's not mainstream metal. It's awesome metal.
@dangerrat456 thats because he uses trigers, and the beaters for those trigers go down to correctly hit the trigers (i think that he uses the Roland KD7 Kick Controllers)
@semitonedown As far as what triggers and electronic pads are for? A lot of extreme metal drummers trigger their kicks, snares and even toms. The triggers are small and usually attach to the rim. This so they get a consistent sound using two bass drums at high volume and speeds. What Dave is doing is he isn't even using the kick drums but using a pedal that has pad under the beater, the beater angles down and hits the pad. A lot Roland electric kits have used them...
I can actually play at this speed and sound just like him, but I could never do this for hours and hours at a time. I get so sick of when people say he sucks or his band is gay, cause they're not. Even if they were, you don't need the best drummer in the universe or a straight vocalist to write amazing songs like Dragonforce does.
+Cannibal Corpse Just no. He his fast no dubt about, but this song is almost all the time on 4/4, you can master if you have the stamina to do that double bass for 7 minutes. He is insane, that for sure ;) Listen some Tool song, that require huge drum skill.
@i3rucei3ruce The pedals have the pads on the front of them and the beaters are angled down -like I said to semitonedown above, around 0:29 to 0:48 you can clearly see his beaters never touch the real kick drums but angle down and hit the pads on the front of the pedals themselves...
@semitonedown Richard Christy is one of my favorite metal drummers -he doesn't use triggers on his acoustic drums. He will use electronic pads to add sounds & textures to the music, like Sean Reinert, but he doesn't augment his acoustics with triggered sounds. He actually practices & uses DYNAMICS to help himself play better. However, I would understand a kit being triggered in an outdoor or huge venue where live miking would be impractical or impossible -there are rare exceptions in my book...
@deathmetalstrength I don't understand what trigger pads could be for? I play both electronic and regular kit, I think it take just as much effort to strike the pad or skin. Real drums have more of a rebound. If he's triggering the bass drum SOUNDS then why is he keeping his legs going?
@semitonedown Trigger regular drums is a matter of attaching a small trigger to (usually -but there are different kinds) the rim then part of it will set just above the head to pick up the vibrations from the head (some sit right on the head). You choose what sound you want from the trigger & you could hit a 10" tom & trigger a piccolo snare drum sound. A lot of that went on in the 90's -I read a lot of Modern Drummer. When you mix sounds, they sounds natural, or just use the triggered sound...
I think the main reason why Dave leave DragonForce is because he didn't get so much attention. Everyone keeps just pay attention to Herman and Sam. I mean, just look how beast he is in this video! He deserves more appreciation than what he used to got when he was in DragonForce
Fawwaz Putra I know I’m really late but I actually know Dave as unlikely as that seems and the reason he told me for leaving is he said he didn’t like taking all the time touring. The others may be right as he left to do other music but that’s what he has told me. He’s a great guy
He left because he needed a break. DF is hard to do both musically and in terms of ther long lasting tours. It had nothing to do with not getting the spot light.
4:30 : Is he using some electric drum pad for the bass drum ? Those beaters looks upside down like an electric drum. This could be an alternative instead of using triggers.
it says in the description that "you may notice that from 03:31 - 04:00 dave's playing is completely off from the music." OHHHH REALLY?????!!!! ALL HAIL DAVE!! :)
@Trogdorwillrise oh thanks. i appreciate it. but no, i never meant anything about how he drums. i meant his set sounds fine. so forget you. call me all you want.
You can't call him bad. Sure most of his skill is based on speed, but try playing that fast constantly with occasional fills, and singing his backing vocals part without going off pitch. THAT's fucking hard, and that's why Dave kicks double ass!
@Drumpunk13 Triggering doesn´t mean you don´t actually play the bass drum, for example. It´s used because you can barely hear the bass drum when it´s played very fast, that has nothing to do witch cheating.
Wow i didnt realize how good he is until i actually watched him! People mainly talk about herman sam and zp be4 he left! But dave should be just as popular as those 3! AMAZING! :D
@deathmetalstrength Okay I think I see your point. Is it that he keeps the shells there to hide the pads that bothers you, or that it cheats on making sure the sound is consistent? In terms of playing the drums I see no difference. I don't know much about metal drummers. Out of curiosity, how do they use triggers on the kick drums?
Those fills tho 😲 Yep 👍 watching in 2145 remembering this guy ends up playing the drum solo of life, and dragonforce defeats the heralds of the apocalypse in 2045, you’ll see. It leads to ascension and world peace ✌️ you guys are gonna love it Bye 👋
at 3:30 to about 4:00 his head jack or something got unplugged and he had to do that 30 secs of by heart until some1 pluged it back in so i reckon he did pretty dam good p.s. Dragonforce ROCKS! its a shame ZP left and Dave Mackintosh is my favourite drummer in the world he is like a machine created to play the drums XD
I was scared at 03:31 to 04:00 I thought: Man, did he realize that is out of rhythm? kkkkk But then I saw the description of the video and understand why.
@deathmetalstrength Personally I have no problem with a drummer using electronic kicks or any other drums. My favorite drummer is Neil Peart and he's used both forever. My issue is that you call it lazy. Electronic or not there's nothing lazy about the playing. Electronic kicks mean each hit will sound the same but if other metal drummers use triggers then they should be called lazy too.
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i miss you Dave Mackintosh😭😭😭😭
c'mon.. gee is fucking cool :)
Me too.. probably the coolest honestly. Love all things this showed from him lol
Me too 😰
He is back!!!
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I swear Dave Mackintosh looks and almost drums like the new age Dave Lombardo and now the new drummer Gee Anzalone looks and almost drums like the new age Mike Portney. Awesome metal legends
dave mackintosh have the heart of the songs and the spirit, but anzalone have the great technique and a percent of heart in the songs, cheers from arica-chile machine!!!! i´ve been follow the band since 2001 when the internet albums didn´t come to this far( sorry my english is very poor) my age in that time was 13 and i listened the demo of dragonheart...valley of the damned, that change my musician perspective, un abrazo maestro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Power metal is be nothing without the drum beats. Respect to all PM drummer
Saw him twice with Dragonforce, and left with my mind blown. Dave was just a monster, i couldn't believe the stuff he was doing.
Freakin' amazing drummer! So sad he left Dragonforce :(
@@tulrid7550 hhh
Gee Anzalone is very beter
@@manosliapakisthestormrider8099 !
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@@Vidilhounuo ur fuckinnn high
You can say all you want about vocals, lead guitar, bass, etc., but nothing beats a talented drummer. (see what I did there =] )
nice comment
Norolia 2 years later and I finally see what you did there
nothing BEATS a talented drummer bro xP
Ahaha I see that lol that's good
@Shaxx heel toe man
I can play drums at an alright level, and I can play songs like this. But, keeping in mind that this guy plays like this for 7+ mins on pretty much every song, at this pace on pretty much every song, for 1,5 hour+ concerts ... it's pretty darn amazing that he can achieve such endurance. I'm knackered after playing one of their songs once.
You can’t be called a pro while doing the same as everyone else, dude was a black metal drummer in the 90’s
these are always fun to revisit. was lucky enough to see DF once with the original lineup, before zp and dave left. i was in awe watching dave move so fast, i had no idea how intense he would be banging the crap out of his kit.
Tubby J I’ve never seen them live but I’ve spoken to Dave before and he is such a nice guy, brilliant drummer and even better guy
Starting at 5:36...some of the cleanest 3 seconds of awesome you may ever hear.
While I think Gee Anzalone is a fantastic drummer, he lacks the raw power and presence that Dave possesses' as a drummer. I will always miss seeing him on the kit when Dragon Force rolls through on Tour.
What? There's no way Gee misses power or presence at all.
@@mariopeloful901 He barely touches his snare on back beat notes. That's not power
@@allanmalloy8266 Yeah, Gee will do stick tricks, but his showmanship doesn't compare to dave. Gee is still a fantastic drummer.
your opinion on Gee is so farrrr from reality lol technically better and a bigger personality for a drummer on stage
@@TheDSSlayer when did I say anything about technicalities? I've seen nothing from Gee that makes him objectively better (or worse) then Dave. There's some subjective arguments to be made, which would be personal taste.
Gee looks like a child surrounded by his heroes when he plays, happy and joyful. Dave looks totally engrossed in his performance. I prefer the latter to the former.
I can feel the feeling and the passion with which Dave play this song, we miss you Dave ❤️
Fun to see all those people sit there XD Atleast give some headbangs....
DBSaiyanTim777 idk man I don’t really think dragonforce is a headbangingband
Tammy Westin then why do I headbang at every song ?
The greatest to ever do it and nobody can change my mind
he must have a really good stamina to play drums that fast for that long..hell yeah (Y)
Fans just called him a "compact dynamo". I dont know what meaning of it actually lol
This stuff is actually really easy to play. Listen to something like Fleshgod Apocalypse if you want to see something hard to maintain.
@@derklass2023 It means "Small Machine".
TheGr8one1022 and you can play this flawless?
Imagine a whole concert doing like 7-8 songs in a row that are all like this lol
Dave broke through the fabric of time with the drums on this song.
dave are the best holy shit...there are great drummers like Lombardo(SLAYER) or Lars(METALLICA) but dave is on another level of speed and accuracy...
i fucking love Dragonforce and i think that they are one of the best bands in the world nowadays
I'm surprised this legs aren't as thick as my bloody waist
anybody watching this in 2018?
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his speed and timing and accuracy takes years to master this man is nothing short of a beast
ID NEVER HEARD HIM JUST GEE THIS man is GREAT
amazing drummer for sure!
DAVE MACKINTSOH IS THE GREATEST DRUMMER OF ALL TIME!
People say Dave sucks, but face it, no one has that much energy playing the drums, and keep on playing with full energy for 5+ mins. He's amazing, even tho its the same beats over and over, only a few can actually keep up and play like him. Dragonforce rules :D
One of the best drummer’s ever
Dave. How the fuck do you still have arms attached to your body?
how is he not jacked ass fuck as well!!? gaddang
Incredible and the fact tgat his headphones got plugged accidently till the tech got them in makes it even better. Very nice job!
He was so much powerful what the energy ? his stamina is LV.1000 salute to you!! Dave MIT.
Hard to believe he's not freakin ripped from all this man! Dave RULES!!!
We miss you ZP and Dave!!
The great beat by Dave! 💪🔥🔥🔥
the drum appears dancing with him, never another style will replace blast-beat, never another drummer will replace Dave Mackintosh, Keep Rulling man, you rock!
@TheMysteriousSage The Rev was undoubtedly one of the best drummers of our generation. He was a exceptionally gifted drummer. Take the time to listen to each and every song he recorded with A7x. There's so much variety and technical engineuity. And for the record, it's not mainstream metal. It's awesome metal.
Wow! the bets drummer! excelent song of the band dragonforce! very good very good!!!!👏 Dave is my favory drummer... i love you
not gonna lie dave is a beast but i dig dragonforce's new drummer more
How could anyone dislike this insanely awesome video.
I love gee the most, cuz he's always smiling while he's drumming
Are you happy google? I surrender your all mighty rules
@dangerrat456 thats because he uses trigers, and the beaters for those trigers go down to correctly hit the trigers (i think that he uses the Roland KD7 Kick Controllers)
@semitonedown As far as what triggers and electronic pads are for? A lot of extreme metal drummers trigger their kicks, snares and even toms. The triggers are small and usually attach to the rim. This so they get a consistent sound using two bass drums at high volume and speeds. What Dave is doing is he isn't even using the kick drums but using a pedal that has pad under the beater, the beater angles down and hits the pad. A lot Roland electric kits have used them...
Dave Mackintosh shoulda played a drum battle with The Rev.... It would have been absolutely godly.
LOVE THIS BAND!
My arms get tired when I play this on Guitar Hero on medium! Dave, you're awesome!
competely underrated, he rules
I can actually play at this speed and sound just like him, but I could never do this for hours and hours at a time. I get so sick of when people say he sucks or his band is gay, cause they're not. Even if they were, you don't need the best drummer in the universe or a straight vocalist to write amazing songs like Dragonforce does.
No words..Best drummer ever
+Cannibal Corpse Just no. He his fast no dubt about, but this song is almost all the time on 4/4, you can master if you have the stamina to do that double bass for 7 minutes. He is insane, that for sure ;) Listen some Tool song, that require huge drum skill.
He likes progresive metal, more than power metal, so i´m sure he can play in odd time signatures and complex stuff
It’s 2018 and I’m watching this.
@i3rucei3ruce The pedals have the pads on the front of them and the beaters are angled down -like I said to semitonedown above, around 0:29 to 0:48 you can clearly see his beaters never touch the real kick drums but angle down and hit the pads on the front of the pedals themselves...
@semitonedown Richard Christy is one of my favorite metal drummers -he doesn't use triggers on his acoustic drums. He will use electronic pads to add sounds & textures to the music, like Sean Reinert, but he doesn't augment his acoustics with triggered sounds. He actually practices & uses DYNAMICS to help himself play better. However, I would understand a kit being triggered in an outdoor or huge venue where live miking would be impractical or impossible -there are rare exceptions in my book...
@deathmetalstrength I don't understand what trigger pads could be for? I play both electronic and regular kit, I think it take just as much effort to strike the pad or skin. Real drums have more of a rebound. If he's triggering the bass drum SOUNDS then why is he keeping his legs going?
yes, the beaters are hitting downward, he is not hiiting the bass drum heads
Does anyone know if he has a group project ? Nope because I miss him. Really !
@semitonedown Trigger regular drums is a matter of attaching a small trigger to (usually -but there are different kinds) the rim then part of it will set just above the head to pick up the vibrations from the head (some sit right on the head). You choose what sound you want from the trigger & you could hit a 10" tom & trigger a piccolo snare drum sound. A lot of that went on in the 90's -I read a lot of Modern Drummer. When you mix sounds, they sounds natural, or just use the triggered sound...
@Deathbaaat Dragonforce as a whole is ridiculously amazing Dave adds to the over all awesomeness
My favorite drummer of all times! :(
miss you Dave Mackintosh
03:31 - 4:00 sounds insanely good (drums)
I think the main reason why Dave leave DragonForce is because he didn't get so much attention. Everyone keeps just pay attention to Herman and Sam. I mean, just look how beast he is in this video! He deserves more appreciation than what he used to got when he was in DragonForce
Fawwaz Putra Actually, he left for a career in some other genre of music.
Chris Morris progressive Rock i think, but im not sure
Fawwaz Putra I know I’m really late but I actually know Dave as unlikely as that seems and the reason he told me for leaving is he said he didn’t like taking all the time touring. The others may be right as he left to do other music but that’s what he has told me. He’s a great guy
He left because he needed a break. DF is hard to do both musically and in terms of ther long lasting tours. It had nothing to do with not getting the spot light.
No no no, he had to leave the band because he had to raise his newborn son.
totaly sport
@karl9864 He would have say in what his drums sound like, and he SHOULD be tuning his own kit. Besides, how do you know who tuned the kit?
4:30 : Is he using some electric drum pad for the bass drum ? Those beaters looks upside down like an electric drum. This could be an alternative instead of using triggers.
I just answered my self and I was right : ua-cam.com/video/3khzGocOd_U/v-deo.html
it says in the description that
"you may notice that from 03:31 - 04:00 dave's playing is completely off from the music."
OHHHH REALLY?????!!!! ALL HAIL DAVE!! :)
Man, true power metal, speed metal drummer.
Tried the blast beat, was tired after 10 seconds. Dave is awesome.
@Trogdorwillrise oh thanks. i appreciate it. but no, i never meant anything about how he drums. i meant his set sounds fine. so forget you. call me all you want.
mother of drums o.o
Don't you mean father of drums
Serious Sam rocks!
Those're some sick bass diddles. I had no idea he was doing that with his feet all these years.
Nailed it, Fucking talented drummer.
not a dragonforce fan but I love the looseness he plays drums with. its very kool to see. I can definitely learn a few things from him! :)
he is rocking there like a a boss!
4:28 - 4:38 = 10 seconds blasbeat with double stroke in bass drum
@CronoX3 true. he has to keep the same beats constant and i dont mind it cause i can headbang for that much longer.
After watching this video, the way I heard Dragonforce has absolutely changed... This guy is a fuckin' machine!
I thought that those drums were about to explode :D
@Catalyst22 on the albums he uses drum machine.
@karl9864 but its his kit, i take pride in how my kit sounds
and it reflects on him for choosing a bad drum tech either way
Playing double in the kick 10yrs ago!
THE most interesting technique shown in this clip is obviously the double strokes on the kicks. At that speed, it's pretty clean!
You can't call him bad. Sure most of his skill is based on speed, but try playing that fast constantly with occasional fills, and singing his backing vocals part without going off pitch. THAT's fucking hard, and that's why Dave kicks double ass!
@Drumpunk13 Triggering doesn´t mean you don´t actually play the bass drum, for example. It´s used because you can barely hear the bass drum when it´s played very fast, that has nothing to do witch cheating.
Wow i didnt realize how good he is until i actually watched him! People mainly talk about herman sam and zp be4 he left! But dave should be just as popular as those 3! AMAZING! :D
@HenryTholomewPlague It's not because of Tama if you think that those drums sounds weak...
Seems like his drumtech doesn't know how to tune drums.
@deathmetalstrength Okay I think I see your point. Is it that he keeps the shells there to hide the pads that bothers you, or that it cheats on making sure the sound is consistent? In terms of playing the drums I see no difference. I don't know much about metal drummers. Out of curiosity, how do they use triggers on the kick drums?
When he plays the Chorus he looks like a GOD
Those are some pretty good kick doubles he's got going there.
Those fills tho 😲 Yep 👍 watching in 2145 remembering this guy ends up playing the drum solo of life, and dragonforce defeats the heralds of the apocalypse in 2045, you’ll see. It leads to ascension and world peace ✌️ you guys are gonna love it
Bye 👋
Dragonforce is just a memory without you.
The best drummer for me
at 3:30 to about 4:00 his head jack or something got unplugged and he had to do that 30 secs of by heart until some1 pluged it back in so i reckon he did pretty dam good p.s. Dragonforce ROCKS! its a shame ZP left and Dave Mackintosh is my favourite drummer in the world he is like a machine created to play the drums XD
@rjthegolfer93 You know you don't have to listen to him if you don't like it or if it feels too repetitive to you right?
@MrKilltastic He is not using his bassdrum, it's pads:P
@smurfhunterguy the kit isn´t tuned by himself!
I still see it in 2021
This is never ending drums
Mi grupo favorito DragonForce
Dave must have the legs of a god to play the stomp drums like that jesus
I was scared at 03:31 to 04:00 I thought: Man, did he realize that is out of rhythm? kkkkk
But then I saw the description of the video and understand why.
I can barely airdrum... This is so fucking hard
@deathmetalstrength Personally I have no problem with a drummer using electronic kicks or any other drums. My favorite drummer is Neil Peart and he's used both forever. My issue is that you call it lazy. Electronic or not there's nothing lazy about the playing. Electronic kicks mean each hit will sound the same but if other metal drummers use triggers then they should be called lazy too.
dave machintosh drummer ferfect!😁😁😁😁😁😁
This guy is awesome