Agree and there some people say skill issues to me because I say it is too hard well you have skill issues to think first before you speak -_- Edit: The tds community is toxic in my opinion literally said is skill issue whatever I say is right they are quite pathetic
I tried doing it duo with my friend, and we managed to actually activate hidden wave, but it was so chaotic that i didn't knew what was going on, and like 5 there were moments when we would die but rangers killed those enemies until those 5 fallen honor guards came
@@marri0nzFr, imagine being mad just because you beat it. What if I say the buff actually happens because of the people saying its too easy... Because that's the actual reasson but the major reasson is because jordanstayt were streaming so they buffed it
@@equinox_yo pov when the easiest mode's boss still almost wipes out your entire army despite an absolutely ridiculous amount of economy (you forgot to bait)
Honestly, fallen mode is almost impossible with randoms now too (Either they try to do HW, fail miserably, or find out you dont wanna do it and leave immediately, or they suck), they wanted it to be a challenge and instead created hardcore mode part two
EXACTLY, at least one guy is going to leave the moment you tell them you don't want to do hidden wave. Shit's ridiculous, if you want to try and beat hidden wave then don't attempt it with matchmaking on for crying out loud.
Okay, I like the idea of a 1 million health awakened fallen king. It is literally a boss that’s been hyped up A LOT, and if duos & trios can take down a 1.2 million health boss, quads can definitely take down a million health boss. However, 60% defense might be too much. While 100% defense is only 50% damage reduction, that doesn’t automatically mean 60% defense is just 30% damage reduction, it’s actually 37.5%. I dunno how to best explain it, but that’s basically enough damage reduction that if you also placed damage flags, it won’t give more DPS, your towers will just have the regular amount of DPS. So if you’re a dev and you’re reading this, please don’t give bosses defense, just clarify that the boss practically has 1,400,000 health.
@@novatide No. The defense system works like this: Original Damage divided by 1 + DefensePercentButInDecimalForm. The result is that while 100% defense means 50% damage reduction, 50% defense means 33.33% damage reduction.
@@inalvissarria5518 Tower or not this shit is still ridiculous If somebody wants hidden wave to be hard they should go play on a hard map not the map that was so fucking easy it was REMOVED from hardcore map rotation
Triggering the wave used to be near impossible (unless you are a team of skilled content creators) since you had to deal with quickdropping the fallen king in time. Thankfully the time window has increased for that but wave 41 is so hard because of how quickly you get overwhelmed. I genuinely don't blame people for using the rejoin glitch to beat this.
I did hidden wave yeaterday and i lost to the tank thwre is 3-5 of them idk why Anyone who doing hw now i reccmond dont you will have hard time it best to wait for nerfs
this plus the fact that it only gives you 50 gems (100 for first time) making it not worth the time and the trouble we went through to get to that point tbh i'd rather spend 10 minutes doing hc and probably get more gems than spending 30-40 minutes for 50
@@KayD6328 hidden wave is an easter egg and is not really suppose to be grinded it is just a challenge to beat for the most experienced player and also those who want to surpass themselves . The goal here is not to get the reward at the end but to defeat it , and the feeling of beating the hardest thing in TDS is so rewarding
I know right even the master himself admits it. Also hey Egg i got a cool idea for brawler could you try to tell the devs if you like the idea? It would be cool to have brawler be able to choose from stun hands and knockback hands just like jester
as a player with lvl 340 i can say even fallen is too hard for me now, for me its now beatable only at maps like wreked battlefield, fungi islands. and fallen mode needs HUGE rebalance becose first 15 waves its like really hard, and if i try to beat fallen on maps like winter stronghold i make about 25 tryes and thats ith the fact i have all buyable towers, creators shoud really think about adding something op like a tower for 120k coins or 8k gems
i honestly think that the buff where good, it makes hidden wave alot harder and intense and really gives a nice challenge for the player, tho i agree about it being impossible on other maps that aren't long, maybe they could make that the hp decreaces with the length of the map? idk
Honestly, it doesn't surprise me anymore, they're just based on making all kinds of things as difficult as possible so that their income doesn't continue to go down because people are already fed up with just receiving "reworks" that are actually ultra nerfs or ultra buffs that only last. 1 week or if you're very lucky, 3 weeks, things that are garbage and a perfect excuse to make the game even more difficult, like the items that started as a miracle to finally not have to suffer. with the beautiful difficulty it ended up being practically mandatory to play the other parts of the game, if you don't use %100 strong items you will surely lose and if you use it and lose because of the horrible difficulty you are screwed and have to get the necessary items again already I don't even have hope that the game will improve
The thing is what was the purpose of the fallen buff it was already hard enough as it was but now it’s just ridiculous making the fallen brawler quest so annyoing to beat on winter abyss
Idk honestly it was justified knowing this is supposed to be a hard next to impossible secret it's kinda fair since this wave isn't made to farm it,just a easter egg
they gotta do some changes man, if this was impossible on certain maps before, then it should of gotten a nerf so it would actually be possible on other maps
I took a long break from this game after hidden wave decided to break on me twice, making my UI invisible. I come back hoping for a better situation... situation: Idk if the bug was fixed and HW buffed immensely. thanks, BelowNatural.
I tried the hidden wave today and managed to get to it.... we lost almost immediately. now there were some things I could have done like place more pursuts in the back, use medic and bring brawler to use in the back. so I just thought I was not skilled enough. but the lag was also so crazy that I couldn't micro, use abilities, or even move around without going 2 fps. also, I originally thought that 1 million HP was no bigge (for some reason) because it was supposed to be hard. although I don't think I encountered the enemies with the tank modifiers being a problem, I now think I would have lost originally. plus, I didn't even know the function of the tank modifier before this video and didn't realise that the fallen king had 60% DEFENSE ON TOP OF 1 MILLION HP. which is 1.6 MILLION HP. So the stun abuse, hard enemies with like 50k HP, and lag killed me. I am happy to know that I am in fact, not stupid and that others encounter issues like this as well. I do hope they nerf this. No hate to the TDS dev team though. Balancing is harder than you think, especially when making something like this.
Ngl, my team and I were joking about buffing awakened fallen king to 1M hp bc we killed him much earlier then a lot of other teams did. The main reason we said 1M is because it feels more like a “final boss” with a nice 1,000,000, but wtf is a tank with the tank modifier ????
I think you should be given the 2M cash at the start of wave 41 and not at when the awakened fallen king spawns so you can actually prepare for all the hell that is coming
@@lolwsp6481 the defense boost is an ability that is from normal fallen king . It gains defense the less HP , and normal falle king already doesnt have that many abilities so imagine removing one, and i think this defense boost is kinda meant te replace the old rage mode
There's should be a line drawn between a challenge and straight up frustrating to play. Whole gamemode Feels so limited with these buffs especially cus fungi island is the only viable map if u actually wanna win, Which imo shouldn't be the case. New HW feels like banging my head against the wall when attempting it.
actually when it had 650k health it was kinda a bit "too easy" so when they buffed it to 800k it was actually cool as it was hard but not impossible and still enjoyable but the buff from 800k to 1 million was just too much
@@galette4714 when he was buffed to 800k hp he became even bigger joke becouse you also got more time to kill the enemies on wave 41, no AFK is somewhat challaneging
Players logic be like: Torture youreself to try beating hidden wave for first time and get useless badge+30 gems:✅👍😊 Beat hardcore first time and get deluxe crate+300gems:❌👹😭
@@MangoGalaxyYT Tds community: bruh brawler is to op the game is to easy cuz all towers are op please make the game harder ah to much updates the community when less updates UPDATE THE GAME more and when the hidden wave is harder ITS TO DAMN HARD nerf it
@@xander6301because much stronger enemies are spammed with the 1m hp one. And it’s faster, and has effectively more hp thanks to the defense. Very bad logic
and also the normal fallen king was buff so it was hard to get to the hidden wave before because randome (or people on the discord) are not smart enough to put they tower on strong and now the fallen king is stronger so more hard :(
YES YES YES I LOVE EXTREMELY HARD THING IN A GAME WHERE EVERYTHING IS ALREADY STUPID HARD BECAUSE THEY PLAY TEST WITH 4 PEOPLE YAAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYA
IK why they make that, its simple! They just dont want to see Dank, 5ouls or you beating it on every longer map PS. they said they gonna rework DJ, Pursuit and we will get a new Late-game tower
If someone think that hidden wave is worth it,for now trying to beat hidden wave after Buff its worthless, we should wait until they Nerf It, once hidden have gets nerfed we can try it
I gave up on HW long before the buff bc my laggy ass laptop can't even handle wave 41. This buff was very unnecessary and I think they should have nerfed it because even casual players (like me) are having a shit ton of trouble with beating it.
Honestly, the community’s fault for saying “Too easy” when released
True
Agree
and there some people say skill issues to me because I say it is too hard well you have skill issues to think first before you speak -_-
Edit: The tds community is toxic in my opinion literally said is skill issue whatever I say is right they are quite pathetic
Because the fallen king lost all his abilities?
We also had say "easy" to intermediate mode and the buffs were atleast decent, now this is ridiculous
Average tds player
Srs they'll say hardcore is too ez but have void reaver die two seconds before reaching the base
When i saw Awakened Fallen King getting buffed to 1 million health my reaction was like: nah dude i give up
Same😭
I tried to beat it alot of times but the spam stun is rlly annyoing
I tried doing it duo with my friend, and we managed to actually activate hidden wave, but it was so chaotic that i didn't knew what was going on, and like 5 there were moments when we would die but rangers killed those enemies until those 5 fallen honor guards came
I bet it was because people kept saying "tds was too easy"
@@marri0nzFr, imagine being mad just because you beat it. What if I say the buff actually happens because of the people saying its too easy... Because that's the actual reasson but the major reasson is because jordanstayt were streaming so they buffed it
Now I like challenges and I like beating challenges but then I like something fun to do. Not something that will make me shake for the next hour …
Yep, guess I'm oogly goo, *starts tweaking*
Wait till bro hears about wtd
@@equinox_yowhat’s wtd
@@equinox_yo pov when the easiest mode's boss still almost wipes out your entire army despite an absolutely ridiculous amount of economy (you forgot to bait)
An fast 10k hp enemy with tank modified its just ridiculus...
I mean units ignore it so just use riot guards
awakened fallen king removing people's UI making sure hidden wave isnt too easy
I think units ignore the tank modifier.
@@Finnn69 ok
@@Tomudri alr
Honestly, fallen mode is almost impossible with randoms now too (Either they try to do HW, fail miserably, or find out you dont wanna do it and leave immediately, or they suck), they wanted it to be a challenge and instead created hardcore mode part two
Yea but that's on them for stubbornly continuing to vote a heavily buffed mode. If you all just start voting intermediate instead...
EXACTLY, at least one guy is going to leave the moment you tell them you don't want to do hidden wave. Shit's ridiculous, if you want to try and beat hidden wave then don't attempt it with matchmaking on for crying out loud.
@@hamIindigolike seriously stop ruining other people's game for a mode that needs cordination
Shout out to everyone in the tdsd who said hidden wave was easy and then it got buffed
(they'll get hunted)
none of them over the age of 12.. 😂
W MOMENT FOR BUFFING IT WOW!!!
@@ninowoo594 that's a weird tds statement, especially coming from the hidden wave buff
@@SillyCato._ It's still easy they should buff it again 🥱
What makes them 12 i mean if anyone beats anything fast they will just say ez age does not matter@@leash8932
Okay, I like the idea of a 1 million health awakened fallen king. It is literally a boss that’s been hyped up A LOT, and if duos & trios can take down a 1.2 million health boss, quads can definitely take down a million health boss. However, 60% defense might be too much.
While 100% defense is only 50% damage reduction, that doesn’t automatically mean 60% defense is just 30% damage reduction, it’s actually 37.5%.
I dunno how to best explain it, but that’s basically enough damage reduction that if you also placed damage flags, it won’t give more DPS, your towers will just have the regular amount of DPS.
So if you’re a dev and you’re reading this, please don’t give bosses defense, just clarify that the boss practically has 1,400,000 health.
Ah yes funny big number > game balance
isnt it just 60% damage reduction...
@@2MLG434Uwhat
@@novatide its calculated differently. Original Damage / (1 + Defense), not Original Damage * (1 - Defense)
@@novatide No. The defense system works like this:
Original Damage divided by
1 + DefensePercentButInDecimalForm.
The result is that while 100% defense means 50% damage reduction, 50% defense means 33.33% damage reduction.
I like that its difficult and stuff but if its so difficult that its not even fun then thats a problem.
They should just revome all the meat shields from hv to make it an actuall boss fight and not trying to kill all the enemies from fallen with modfiers
The hidden wave buff is so unnecessarily hard they gotta either balance it out again or make the rewards actually good
Nah bruh we gotta get a tower cause that sh is ridiculous.
@@inalvissarria5518 Tower or not this shit is still ridiculous
If somebody wants hidden wave to be hard they should go play on a hard map not the map that was so fucking easy it was REMOVED from hardcore map rotation
@@inalvissarria5518hidden wave is only there if you want a challenge
@@2MLG434UI swear man tds devs be absolutely bugging
@@2MLG434Uworst strategist ever vro
Triggering the wave used to be near impossible (unless you are a team of skilled content creators) since you had to deal with quickdropping the fallen king in time. Thankfully the time window has increased for that but wave 41 is so hard because of how quickly you get overwhelmed. I genuinely don't blame people for using the rejoin glitch to beat this.
When you compare at old hidden wave bro why it so hard now
I did hidden wave yeaterday and i lost to the tank thwre is 3-5 of them idk why
Anyone who doing hw now i reccmond dont you will have hard time it best to wait for nerfs
this plus the fact that it only gives you 50 gems (100 for first time) making it not worth the time and the trouble we went through to get to that point tbh i'd rather spend 10 minutes doing hc and probably get more gems than spending 30-40 minutes for 50
hidden wave buff should be reward a tower or deluxe create
Same like polluted wasteland 2
@@vidislime09 might be a little too much but at least a skin works like you cannot carry someone with this it's way too hard
@@KayD6328first time deluxe crate but def not a tower
@@KayD6328 you shouldnt be able to carry people for hw tbh thats fine
@@KayD6328 hidden wave is an easter egg and is not really suppose to be grinded it is just a challenge to beat for the most experienced player and also those who want to surpass themselves . The goal here is not to get the reward at the end but to defeat it , and the feeling of beating the hardest thing in TDS is so rewarding
i liked it the first time they buffed it because it went from super easy to still possible but hard
yeah the 800k was fine
@@galette4714that shit was even easier than pre rebalance
@@sus_noob428 say that more and you are getting OG void reaver
I believe when they change something like this, NO ONE tests it, cause theres no way a group of people looked at that and said, yea that works...
to defeat a tank tank, we use a tank tank of our own
This is just the lost souls buff situacion all over again
This is the result of People putting easy in the thumbnail for clickbait
no the lost souls buff was caused by a bug
@@Jack-h9j3rtrue
I know right even the master himself admits it. Also hey Egg i got a cool idea for brawler could you try to tell the devs if you like the idea? It would be cool to have brawler be able to choose from stun hands and knockback hands just like jester
as a player with lvl 340 i can say even fallen is too hard for me now, for me its now beatable only at maps like wreked battlefield, fungi islands. and fallen mode needs HUGE rebalance becose first 15 waves its like really hard, and if i try to beat fallen on maps like winter stronghold i make about 25 tryes and thats ith the fact i have all buyable towers, creators shoud really think about adding something op like a tower for 120k coins or 8k gems
THANKS. Man this was already hard enough now they had to make it almost impossible huh
i honestly think that the buff where good, it makes hidden wave alot harder and intense and really gives a nice challenge for the player, tho i agree about it being impossible on other maps that aren't long, maybe they could make that the hp decreaces with the length of the map? idk
Honestly, it doesn't surprise me anymore, they're just based on making all kinds of things as difficult as possible so that their income doesn't continue to go down because people are already fed up with just receiving "reworks" that are actually ultra nerfs or ultra buffs that only last. 1 week or if you're very lucky, 3 weeks, things that are garbage and a perfect excuse to make the game even more difficult, like the items that started as a miracle to finally not have to suffer. with the beautiful difficulty it ended up being practically mandatory to play the other parts of the game, if you don't use %100 strong items you will surely lose and if you use it and lose because of the horrible difficulty you are screwed and have to get the necessary items again already I don't even have hope that the game will improve
Tank² is crazy 😭🙏
LOL reminds me of the Aerial Ace² Pilot and Cold Soldier².
The thing is what was the purpose of the fallen buff it was already hard enough as it was but now it’s just ridiculous making the fallen brawler quest so annyoing to beat on winter abyss
Idk honestly it was justified knowing this is supposed to be a hard next to impossible secret it's kinda fair since this wave isn't made to farm it,just a easter egg
nobody was using it to farm, even if it’s an Easter egg, it’s not a very enjoyable one considering how difficult they made it.
@@VeryLovelyTacos but after you beat it you would feel super rewarded cuz u just beat the hardest thing in all of tds
@@axiom123 but why is a easter egg have to be the hardest thing in all of tds
But the tank modifier on a 10k hp enemy? I'm pretty sure that's just literally impossible
@@axiom123"for now"
Damn if its not the consequences of the actions from all the youtubers putting clickbait in their thumbnails
golden erad moment
why socks why
they gotta do some changes man, if this was impossible on certain maps before, then it should of gotten a nerf so it would actually be possible on other maps
Tds add fallen missions with fallen rework
Maybe when rework molten we get molten missions?
I took a long break from this game after hidden wave decided to break on me twice, making my UI invisible.
I come back hoping for a better situation...
situation: Idk if the bug was fixed and HW buffed immensely.
thanks, BelowNatural.
I tried the hidden wave today and managed to get to it.... we lost almost immediately. now there were some things I could have done like place more pursuts in the back, use medic and bring brawler to use in the back. so I just thought I was not skilled enough. but the lag was also so crazy that I couldn't micro, use abilities, or even move around without going 2 fps. also, I originally thought that 1 million HP was no bigge (for some reason) because it was supposed to be hard. although I don't think I encountered the enemies with the tank modifiers being a problem, I now think I would have lost originally. plus, I didn't even know the function of the tank modifier before this video and didn't realise that the fallen king had 60% DEFENSE ON TOP OF 1 MILLION HP. which is 1.6 MILLION HP. So the stun abuse, hard enemies with like 50k HP, and lag killed me. I am happy to know that I am in fact, not stupid and that others encounter issues like this as well. I do hope they nerf this. No hate to the TDS dev team though. Balancing is harder than you think, especially when making something like this.
Ngl, my team and I were joking about buffing awakened fallen king to 1M hp bc we killed him much earlier then a lot of other teams did. The main reason we said 1M is because it feels more like a “final boss” with a nice 1,000,000, but wtf is a tank with the tank modifier ????
Tank² goes 🔥🔥🔥
"Tank to the power of tank", makes sense why, when I look at the stats
Easiest wave in Tdx Endless mode:
aka wave 81
I'm not gonna even try anymore.
I think you should be given the 2M cash at the start of wave 41 and not at when the awakened fallen king spawns so you can actually prepare for all the hell that is coming
After they will nerf it after buff again and this is will be infinity.
It's going to be similiar with the act 3 in Lunar Overture event
They done made it tdx related health
"You are just cheap copy of me"
"No i am upgrade void reaver"
this update sucks
why are some of yall saying like "skill issue" and trash talking me its just my opinion for this hd wave update just sucks
The skins are fire tho
Sound like Skill issues
Hmmmm...
Skill issue maybe?
Fallen update is amazing but the hidden wave buffs are fucking ridiculous
cope
Solo hidden wave ❌
Solo hardcore ✔️
Its only 1m hp with new more op towers
Unlike frost spirit where it had 1m and you had trash towers that weren't buffed yet
Frost Invasion allowed you to have 6 players, though
1m hp with stupid defense tho.
Frost spirit is easy, due to weak minions. We could cheese it with a bunch of ranger and pursuit
@@The_Offer_Man have you though about defense melting???
yes, but we also had a busted as hell commander, which basically made every tower in the game have more than double it’s actual dps
@@piotrm5635 we auto bring pyro. Not a problem
In the future, we'll have
"Beat hidden wave easy with mecha base and war machine! Tower Defense Simulator 2025"
That’s one funky island
I feel like all of these people who say "skill issue" haven't beat buffed hidden wave themselves.
Instead of making hidden wave easier to activate they just buff hidden wave for no reason
Now all I can do is watch people how they beat it with this buff
i think the buff to 800k hp was fair but the one from 800k to a million is just not necessary
I think it’s the 60 percent shield in my opinion that made it not necessary with the tank having a tank modifier
@@galette4714 1mil hp is fine wdym, its the shield that should probably get dropped
@@lolwsp6481 the defense boost is an ability that is from normal fallen king . It gains defense the less HP , and normal falle king already doesnt have that many abilities so imagine removing one, and i think this defense boost is kinda meant te replace the old rage mode
@@galette4714its still unbalanced, they have to get rid of it fro. afk or overall nerf the tank
There's should be a line drawn between a challenge and straight up frustrating to play. Whole gamemode Feels so limited with these buffs especially cus fungi island is the only viable map if u actually wanna win, Which imo shouldn't be the case. New HW feels like banging my head against the wall when attempting it.
Something can be challenging, but never annoying or else its bad
This is a certified early bird privilege moment, just beat it early enough, so you can avoid all this bs
We need a lot of units.
developers need to buff the rewards
why is afk stronger than most event bosses
why not?
Bro hidden wave is already good enough why did they have to buff it💀 (plus the rewards suck anyways)
Bc is all faults 5ouls he was said still easy when awakens fallen king buff 800k hp so below really take serious to buff more into 1m
actually when it had 650k health it was kinda a bit "too easy" so when they buffed it to 800k it was actually cool as it was hard but not impossible and still enjoyable but the buff from 800k to 1 million was just too much
@@galette4714800k HP afk died literally at the middle of fungi it was not hard at all
@@galette4714 when he was buffed to 800k hp he became even bigger joke becouse you also got more time to kill the enemies on wave 41, no AFK is somewhat challaneging
TDS made me tweak when they removed the Creator and Bruh from true hidden wave
Tank modifier for tank is bad but rest of changes are good, i think they changed that for a future updates.
Players logic be like:
Torture youreself to try beating hidden wave for first time and get useless badge+30 gems:✅👍😊
Beat hardcore first time and get deluxe crate+300gems:❌👹😭
I really need to sleep..
Ok go sleep then?
Honestly they probably buffed it because people were saying it’s too easy
yeah, lets ask all the people who said it was easy, "IS IT EASY NOW? YEAH, SAY IT NOW IS IT EASY?"
@@MangoGalaxyYT Tds community: bruh brawler is to op the game is to easy cuz all towers are op please make the game harder ah to much updates the community when less updates UPDATE THE GAME more and when the hidden wave is harder ITS TO DAMN HARD nerf it
@@MangoGalaxyYT yes it's easy you just need good squad , plus if trio can kill 1.2mil boss why can't 4 people kill 1million
@@xander6301because much stronger enemies are spammed with the 1m hp one. And it’s faster, and has effectively more hp thanks to the defense. Very bad logic
Maybe bc afk has 60% defence with enemy spam?@@xander6301
Theory:when the lwave button becomes ??????? The text changes but it’s like a code maybe decode it for a secret?
Me when i see enemy with a tank modifier: holy [____] what is that thing!
The tds devs cant balance anything properly
and also the normal fallen king was buff so it was hard to get to the hidden wave before because randome (or people on the discord) are not smart enough to put they tower on strong and now the fallen king is stronger so more hard :(
Some UA-camrs such as crazrex has beat after the event got buff
They are nerfing all the towers, buffing enemies, what we get is a pay to spin wheel
YES YES YES I LOVE EXTREMELY HARD THING IN A GAME WHERE EVERYTHING IS ALREADY STUPID HARD BECAUSE THEY PLAY TEST WITH 4 PEOPLE YAAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYA
to everyone saying "players ruined it cause they said it was too easy" brother if they wanted a buff they didnt want it to be fucking impossible
Thank god I won hidden wave since it still shows the winning player notification in the lobby
10,000 bullets with any damage even 1 billion to kill "Tank" is crazy
bro i can barely beat normal fallen at lvl 300 and they expect me to do this💀
Oh Lord, not the enemy with 10k hp that are fast and with the tank modifiers
Dank at level 100, hold my bloxy cola
That's so unfair, cause the people who beat hidden wave first when the changed weren't there will get the skin even though it was easy af
We will still get a skin,only first 45 people to beat it Will get exclusive skin
@@Idklol12345 Oh okay, I didn't know
Thanks
I got it with 1M hp. Its hard but if u fast medic and micro u can pass.
guess what i love tds soo much they added bloated and nimble to tank 💀💀
and it still gives 50 gems when beaten 😭
if u use the rejoin bug then its possible on autumn falling and wrecked battlefield, i got both footage for it
thank god i beated the hidden wave, before the buff...
IK why they make that, its simple!
They just dont want to see Dank, 5ouls or you beating it on every longer map
PS. they said they gonna rework DJ, Pursuit and we will get a new Late-game tower
If someone think that hidden wave is worth it,for now trying to beat hidden wave after Buff its worthless, we should wait until they Nerf It, once hidden have gets nerfed we can try it
Short answer: Because it's how it supposed to be
I thought its just my skill issue leaving him at 200k hp in every scenario but its actually too much hp to take fown elwith these spawns
It's been 2 months and it still hasn't been nerfed...
well this aged well
We could accept this if the enemy on wave 41 was nerfed
Yeah, But consider that the old hidden wave had like 2 ppl beating it a day. I think 50 a day is enough.
They won because they abused a bug on marshland to beat it
And I still can't beat reworked fallen
wait wait wait 60% defence on 1m hp boss? HE HAS MORE TOTAL HP THAN NUCLEAR MONSTER???
To be fair, Hidden wave isn't mean to be very possible or "easy", it's a challenge wave if you dare to do it
will they nerf hw?
So basically the 1mil hp awaken fallen king isn't the problem THE PROBLEM IS THE EXISTANCE OF TANK MODIFIER
I think they are trying to make more players to use spawner...
Bro 1 mil hp + 60% defence= 1.6 mil now hidden boss has the most hp in the game
i beated hidden wave 1 day before it got buffed...phew
eggrypted we know about your random battle place asriel shenanigans
I gave up on HW long before the buff bc my laggy ass laptop can't even handle wave 41. This buff was very unnecessary and I think they should have nerfed it because even casual players (like me) are having a shit ton of trouble with beating it.
not only the reward is for first 50 plays and Absolutely NOTHING for others but it near impossible 🙄
So glad I beat it before the buff
Cryomanser to the rescue
I think that’s okay, everybody said hw was too easy. You got what you asked for, shit aint easy
buff the rewards and im fine w this. its one of the most hyped things, and people say it was too easy before
they said on the discord they are working on a reward for badge owners
You can’t beat it with mecha base, tried
Craz rex watching this:always knew you were pathetic egg