Blind tests are always the best test! Shows that sound is majorly subjective as this test tells us. A lot of factors contribute to the decision-making process of deciding if an audio gear is great or not. I'm glad I got my Orchestra Lite instead of the Dunu SA6 MK2 (without auditioning them both before purchasing) because it turned out I really like the Orchestra Lite and I might have not liked (or not as much) the DUNU SA6 MK2. Thank you so much for this video!
I think it would be interesting to consider when people say BA = Bad bass, what exactly they mean by that and what they are looking for to make his bass.
Nice video. I watched live until the reveal. Though I almost tapped out during "count gate"😃. The guinea pig is right though, it would be easier to tell the difference if all of them were EQ'd to the same target. I EQ all my headphones/iems to the same target and they are pretty easy to identify, despite their diverse driver types.
The astell and kern you were mentioning is se200. It has two complete systems built in and two people could listen to them at the same time with two pairs of IEMs😂. Then they made the se180 with swappable dac amp modules.
If the claim is that 'Dynamic Drivers produce better bass'. Then as pointed out, this has to be contextualised. If this is about potential quality, then the way to compare that would be IEM's with very similar tuning and in a blind test, see if there is a preference for the DD version.
Perhaps what has been discovered here is that if tuning is variable, the qualitative difference of DD vs BA are not different enough to make up for bad tuning of bass.
The biggest issue with the Meteor is the pressure build up for me. It’s hit or miss with certain tips unfortunately. Some tips give you a great seal but hurt you with that dreaded pressure build up and that can some times hurt the bass imo
What IEMs do you ya'll sleep in? Do you use a DAC and cellphone or DAP with it in bed too? Looking for a good 'sleeping' set. New to the IEM world and just ordered my first this week!
This question is the exact reason why I got two summit-fi IEMs (QDC Anole V14 and the Maestro SE), and there are three main reasons dynamic drivers can be distinguished from BAs. 1: BAs have a lower THD ratio extending into the sub bass frequencies. DDs get very messy as you go below 50Hz comparatively. 2: BAs tend to fail to extend as deep into the infrasonic range as DDs. That means less air displacement, less physical feel to the bass. 3: BAs have a distinct harmonic distortion profile from DDs. DDs have higher even order harmonic distortion, BAs have higher odd order harmonics. It makes DDs sound fuzzy and more natural, BAs sound metallic.
I hear that "DD displace more air" argument over and over again. But physically that makes no sense. If the SPL (sound pressure level) is the same across two drivers types they move the same amount of air. SPL is what gtaphs are displaying.
@@patrickdanneker5480 but are displacement of air, and sound pressure, the exact same thing? I'm also thinking about how the sound wave geometry and surface effect play out. This is more in the realm of esoteric acoustic physics
@@HeadWombat-si3lo This doesn't change any of the challenges, of identifying and hopefully someday measuring or determining their mechanisms. Just like we could say to every audio dilemma, that it could all be an electrical signal in the brain at the end, because that's also true. But we can't dismiss stuff, just because we'd like the answer to be simple. We have impressions and insights, and some make claims based on them, but I think it's much better to just keep on studying these things, improving on FR measuring methodology as well, all of it.
Don't tell Sean:
9:30 BGVP DM9
20:30 Ucotech RE-2
30:30 Campfire Audio Ara
34:15 Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite
40:30 Tanchjim Kara
46:10 Fiio FH7S
50:50 Kiwi Ears Quartet
54:30 7th Acoustics Supernova
59:30 Symphonium Meteor
1:08:00 Dunu SA6 mkII
if an audiophile has to work this hard then the difference most likely doesnt matter
Blind tests are always the best test! Shows that sound is majorly subjective as this test tells us. A lot of factors contribute to the decision-making process of deciding if an audio gear is great or not. I'm glad I got my Orchestra Lite instead of the Dunu SA6 MK2 (without auditioning them both before purchasing) because it turned out I really like the Orchestra Lite and I might have not liked (or not as much) the DUNU SA6 MK2. Thank you so much for this video!
I think it would be interesting to consider when people say BA = Bad bass, what exactly they mean by that and what they are looking for to make his bass.
It was great! You definitely could use some assistance to order the iems to Sean.
Nice work guys!
So many variables to consider. But interesting none the less.
Man, I love this streams.
Nice video. I watched live until the reveal. Though I almost tapped out during "count gate"😃. The guinea pig is right though, it would be easier to tell the difference if all of them were EQ'd to the same target. I EQ all my headphones/iems to
the same target and they are pretty easy to identify, despite their diverse driver types.
Hey Mark, what cables are you using on your HD600?
Some Tripowin cables.
The astell and kern you were mentioning is se200. It has two complete systems built in and two people could listen to them at the same time with two pairs of IEMs😂. Then they made the se180 with swappable dac amp modules.
Mark be like, everything is a balanced armature
If the claim is that 'Dynamic Drivers produce better bass'. Then as pointed out, this has to be contextualised. If this is about potential quality, then the way to compare that would be IEM's with very similar tuning and in a blind test, see if there is a preference for the DD version.
thank you for doing more blind testing so people finally are aware of the importance of placebo that is always on wether we want it or not
Perhaps what has been discovered here is that if tuning is variable, the qualitative difference of DD vs BA are not different enough to make up for bad tuning of bass.
I like it.
The biggest issue with the Meteor is the pressure build up for me. It’s hit or miss with certain tips unfortunately. Some tips give you a great seal but hurt you with that dreaded pressure build up and that can some times hurt the bass imo
Nice stream. If you have a chance do a review of PLUNGE AUDIO UNITY. I think you'll like it.
does guy on right have a brother with a yt channel?
This was fun❤
Excited to see that pinned comment
What IEMs do you ya'll sleep in? Do you use a DAC and cellphone or DAP with it in bed too?
Looking for a good 'sleeping' set. New to the IEM world and just ordered my first this week!
I sleep with almost any IEMs to be honest, but the semi-custom stuff is usually best for me.
airpods pro best sleeping iems. mr ryans opinion is invalid because hes a back sleeper
The 7hz Timeless OG/AE with the Apple dongle are my best sleeping IEM, their shape and size makes me forget I'm even wearing IEMs.
Tuning aside, the safest option probably'd be Sennheiser IE series for side sleeper.
Sean is literally the only person who no like Supernova, this blasphemy must not go unpunished!
Yeah I'm deleting him from this channel.
Shows how interesting our variety in ear anatomy does, let alone our preferences in sound signatures.
This question is the exact reason why I got two summit-fi IEMs (QDC Anole V14 and the Maestro SE), and there are three main reasons dynamic drivers can be distinguished from BAs.
1: BAs have a lower THD ratio extending into the sub bass frequencies. DDs get very messy as you go below 50Hz comparatively.
2: BAs tend to fail to extend as deep into the infrasonic range as DDs. That means less air displacement, less physical feel to the bass.
3: BAs have a distinct harmonic distortion profile from DDs. DDs have higher even order harmonic distortion, BAs have higher odd order harmonics. It makes DDs sound fuzzy and more natural, BAs sound metallic.
Incredibly good insights! Thank you for this!
I hear that "DD displace more air" argument over and over again. But physically that makes no sense. If the SPL (sound pressure level) is the same across two drivers types they move the same amount of air. SPL is what gtaphs are displaying.
@@patrickdanneker5480 but are displacement of air, and sound pressure, the exact same thing? I'm also thinking about how the sound wave geometry and surface effect play out. This is more in the realm of esoteric acoustic physics
Or it could all be FR at the eardrum
@@HeadWombat-si3lo This doesn't change any of the challenges, of identifying and hopefully someday measuring or determining their mechanisms. Just like we could say to every audio dilemma, that it could all be an electrical signal in the brain at the end, because that's also true. But we can't dismiss stuff, just because we'd like the answer to be simple. We have impressions and insights, and some make claims based on them, but I think it's much better to just keep on studying these things, improving on FR measuring methodology as well, all of it.