To me this is really the next generation of FISHING KAYAK's, and yes, it is still a kayak (you can use a paddle as a primary mode of power if you would like too). I can't wait to get my hands on one!!
Hey Chad, being in the plastic industry, the structure design of the standing deck lid will definitely be strong enough. That kayak is an aircraft carrier for a double digit bass to land on it!
Great video guys. I love the set up now its making it harder for me to decide which one i want to get pwr129 or this one but do love the lay out. And the other great thing about this platform is it give bigger guys or gals the chances to be in Kayak tournaments enjoy a beautiful day on the water it's endless that great things this platform offers so many ppl.
Fishing kayaks are typically bigger and most are optimized for a motor/s. Tournaments around my area are even allowing 2 motors now. There’s plenty of fishing kayaks around the same size, some even bigger. Jackson Big Rig Jackson Knarr Hobie PA 14 Native Titan 12/13.5 Native Titan X 12.5 Old Town AP 132 NuCanoe Unlimited NuCanoe Frontier 12
But how many of those paddle decently? Personally I own a knarr and it's hull is still shaped right to be ok paddling short to moderate distances, 1/2-1 mile, but some of these other large kayaks would be hell to paddle much more than a couple hundred yards
@@imperialwhovian3461 most of the ones I mentioned are pedal kayaks and like I said they’re fishing kayaks, optimized for motors. Made for bigger body of waters and for the more series anglers (tournament anglers).
Been kayaking in one form or another for over 20 years and have had everything from the top of the line white water designs, to recreational, and into fishing kayaks the last few years. As much as I love my unlimited and its platform, this kayak has me the most excited about design that I can remember in recent history. We are really looking forward to testing one out when they are finally available in our area.
They should look into doing a drop down skeg to help with tracking instead of a rudder. This would be useful when not using the rear motor and only using the trolling motor. Just a thought
Wow they hit it out of the park with this! Definitely my next kayak hopefully production will be able to handle the demand because it's going to be big. Can't wait and thanks Chad for covering every detail.
I love it. I have a bunch of electric only or 9.9 lakes around me. I use a frontier 12 for the rivers and don’t really care to also rig it for those lakes. I have a bass tracker for the few unlimited horse lakes near me, and this fits the bill for all the smaller lakes. I think it’s perfect.
Man, I bought a titan x 12.5 and got with native before I bought it inquiring about buying one without a drive as ill never use it. Said its not an option. Wish they would have told me something like this was coming, and I would have waited. Going to have to see what one looks like in person and I may be selling/trading.
I’m not 100% sure yet, but Hans said they are working on seeing if the Landing Gear (SideKick) will work and we should have an update on that very soon.
We will be doing that when we get our boats for the season. I’m also going to work on several configurations to give folks ideas even if it is f how I will be outfitting mine
You can paddle this thing if you want. You also don’t have to have a trailer, you can slide it in the truck bed. (If you only have a car, that’s a different discussion all together) and it doesn’t come with all of that so you can outfit it how you see fit.
@ChadHooverFishing I really like the kayak, but I'm in the market for a lighter weight pedal kayak. I'm about to pick up a Native Slayer propel. Thank you for the Icast coverage videos.
These so called “kayak” manufacturers aren’t even making kayaks anymore! Just making plastic boats. For the price of these things just buy a damn boat! Another industry pricing out the little guy!😡
It's true that we're making bigger boats now. There are lots of "kayaks" that can be used for recreational paddling or even fishing. The Bonafide RVR 119 is a fishing kayak that behaves a lot more like a kayak and still offers motorization and fishing features. It's probably my personal favorite because I come from Whitewater paddling. I started fishing from a 15 ft 28" wide touring kayak in class 1-2 For small boats it's true that you could buy a pond prowler or a used jon boat, BUT one thing that's great about doing larger roto-molded boats for fishing is that we can add so many great features into the design. So right away, you've got things setup so much better than you can do with a basic tub. We can also design the hull side of the boat to have the right performance that can't be done in aluminum or thermo. We also run whitewater tested resins, so you have durability for lots of environments and the ability to rig them is so much better than base aluminum jon boats. Last thing is that this boat is self-bailing and can keep you out of trouble better. So you don't have as much worry on the water. So these boats offer us more freedom to fish independently in the places we want to fish. And the cost is still much better than other options.
Please try to cover the SKF more in depth. I live down here near Seadrift, TX and the SKF look like it very well could be the perfect yak for Texas marsh.
Will do. I put it through the paces down in Florida and I’m working a video up on it. Here is a quick overview. At 300 lbs, I’m currently a little too big for it. I intended to put it through the paces more after I drop 30-50 lbs. It still holds me and it’s 100% usable if I was flats fishing all the time. Because I would get getting on and off for wading. I could use it for creeks, but I feel like the RVR is superior for that. It’s crazy stable even though I had water in the tank well and under the seat. I love the simplistic layout, the seat from the SS Series and the open deck. It hauls ass with a Torqeedo 403 or Newport Vessels NK180, but then I was adding even more weight so I paddled it mostly. All in all, If you are under 260-270 pounds and don’t carry a ton of gear you will be fine. If you are over that you may get frustrated with the water under the seat and the tankwell flooding. I don’t usually use scuppers to increase capacity because you then lose the self bailing ability. However, for this kayak you could totally use scuppers to make it a dryer ride because the boat will not hold a ton of water and for fishing flats you can easily hop in and out if you really needed to drain it after wind sloshed water in, after a rainstorm or after you took on a wave from a boat wake. Hope this helps. Chad
@ChadHooverFishing Thanks Brother. You actually answered all the question I dont see anyone asking. I run very light gear. 2 rods. A plano guide series tackle bag. Maybe a soft day cooler and that's it. Wil have to get a tundra 35 sized to try out n place of the seat. I'm going to look at one next week. Probably going to pull the trigger and get it. I do tons of wade fishing and with the kayak being so light and low profile I really think it's a winner. Maybe in the future we could see and updated model that can make them run a little dryer. I bet the guys at Bonafide are already working on it. Also, I really like these specialized kayaks like the SKF and RVR. Hope to see more on these platforms and maybe a specialized Off shore kayak. Name it the OFF 130 something. With that and the SKF it would complete my world of fishing. Thanks again Brother.
Great video. Let’s get a new name for this category. Look at auto racing. Yes they are all cars. But dragsters are different than sprint cars. So maybe all of them are technically kayaks. But this is in a different category.
We have a name for it. It’s “fishing kayak”. It’s not and they never have been “kayaks” since the Inuits. We don’t wear skirts, use nose plugs or wear helmets, it’s a fishing kayak. So to your point, there are whitewater kayaks, touring kayaks, sprint kayaks, recreational kayaks and these are fishing kayaks. Fishing kayaks just happen to be the biggest and the broadest category for interpretation because it’s vastly different in the customer base that it serves.
It's simple if it takes a motor to propel it its a boat by law.. but it hurts that most company's are starting just to make these and you have to register it? So once again if you have to register it its a boat. there is no debate. LOL
Nope. Pedal drive kayaks have to be made that way from the get go and it costs very little to register as boat/kayak compared to the cost ($1200 -$1500) required for a pedal drive
To rig this thing cleanly, you pretty much just have to pick which way you want to fish(standing on the platform or not) and go with it. If you've got your graphs in front of the standing platform, they're too far away to be used from the seat, and if they're mounted to the standing platform, you obviously can't standing on it. I think this boat will be good for some people, but it definitely isn't going to replace every tournament rig. Also, why did Bonafide depart from their naming rules! Shouldve been the XTR 127. I guess the marketing department won🤷♂
We didn’t depart from the naming, the number is the length and the 127 is 12 ft 7”, the RVR 119 is 11’9”, the PWR 129 is 12’9” and the XTR 130 is 13’0”
You are only seeing “quick rigging” setup for trade shows. If you want to use the graphs and the deck you can’t mount the graphs back by the seat, the. Use the deck. You can use a cross boat line other kayaks and put the graphs closer to you and then step up and over on the the deck. You can have one graph off the the side on the rail and then a second graph up front like many anglers do in bass boats. Basically, don’t think just because the marketing people stuck some stuff on the boat for the show and a couple of hype videos that that is the only ways you can configure it. Hope that makes sense.
Just as easy as any other boat. I have video where I show how to get maximum leverage on any boat, no matter the setup! ua-cam.com/video/BfCyll9hzzs/v-deo.htmlsi=DmPuTVgrP84H3ROc
We haven’t had a chance to dial it in and play around with the seat position and loading, but the initial short testing we got to do was 5.9 to 6.4. Once we can play around with motor angle, running depth, setback, etc. I will have a much better answer and will be doing a comprehensive video on all of that once I actually get a boat to test and not just one that I got to spent three or four hours in.
Inflatable packrafts/kayaks is the future. More people have a trunk and not a truck more people dont own a roof rack or trailer. More companies need to switch to that platform to get the masses into it. Less people will buy a kayak because of what a kayak needs. Trailer or roof rack is needed. I ha e a kayak a roof rack and trailer and still would rather take my packraft then my kayak or boat.
I understand your point, but wanted to say that I don’t have a roof rack and easily transport my 12’ yak to different locations. I think inflatables is the next explosion though.
You dont need a brand new truck bud. Trade in the car for something practical..Also, inflatables are a pain in the ass to setup at the ramp. I use both my slayer max (in truck bed) and a tandem inflatable when i go camping and the basic inflatable takes 5 times longer to setup.
To me this is really the next generation of FISHING KAYAK's, and yes, it is still a kayak (you can use a paddle as a primary mode of power if you would like too). I can't wait to get my hands on one!!
Well said brother!
Can you though? How tiring would it be to paddle this for more than a few hundred yards?
Hey Chad, being in the plastic industry, the structure design of the standing deck lid will definitely be strong enough. That kayak is an aircraft carrier for a double digit bass to land on it!
Ha!! Pretty much
I cannot wait to get one of these , these Fishing Kayak is a game changer for sure wow.... just wow...
Great video guys. I love the set up now its making it harder for me to decide which one i want to get pwr129 or this one but do love the lay out. And the other great thing about this platform is it give bigger guys or gals the chances to be in Kayak tournaments enjoy a beautiful day on the water it's endless that great things this platform offers so many ppl.
See you can try them both to get a good comparison
Fishing kayaks are typically bigger and most are optimized for a motor/s. Tournaments around my area are even allowing 2 motors now.
There’s plenty of fishing kayaks around the same size, some even bigger.
Jackson Big Rig
Jackson Knarr
Hobie PA 14
Native Titan 12/13.5
Native Titan X 12.5
Old Town AP 132
NuCanoe Unlimited
NuCanoe Frontier 12
But how many of those paddle decently? Personally I own a knarr and it's hull is still shaped right to be ok paddling short to moderate distances, 1/2-1 mile, but some of these other large kayaks would be hell to paddle much more than a couple hundred yards
@@imperialwhovian3461 most of the ones I mentioned are pedal kayaks and like I said they’re fishing kayaks, optimized for motors. Made for bigger body of waters and for the more series anglers (tournament anglers).
I can probably out paddle a Knarr in this kayak easily
Been kayaking in one form or another for over 20 years and have had everything from the top of the line white water designs, to recreational, and into fishing kayaks the last few years. As much as I love my unlimited and its platform, this kayak has me the most excited about design that I can remember in recent history. We are really looking forward to testing one out when they are finally available in our area.
Awesome, I hope you get a chance to demo on as soon as they come out and it lives up to your expectations
They should look into doing a drop down skeg to help with tracking instead of a rudder. This would be useful when not using the rear motor and only using the trolling motor. Just a thought
There will be an option for that.
Wow they hit it out of the park with this! Definitely my next kayak hopefully production will be able to handle the demand because it's going to be big. Can't wait and thanks Chad for covering every detail.
Thank you for your comment and giving the video a watch!👊🏼
I love it. I have a bunch of electric only or 9.9 lakes around me. I use a frontier 12 for the rivers and don’t really care to also rig it for those lakes. I have a bass tracker for the few unlimited horse lakes near me, and this fits the bill for all the smaller lakes. I think it’s perfect.
That’s pretty much the core reason for this platform
Hey Chad, Great video. Great Kayak. Can you add a side kick wheel system? What's your favorite peddle kayak that you can add a motor too?
I was all ready to buy a Titan X. I think this just went to the top of the list
Man, I bought a titan x 12.5 and got with native before I bought it inquiring about buying one without a drive as ill never use it. Said its not an option. Wish they would have told me something like this was coming, and I would have waited. Going to have to see what one looks like in person and I may be selling/trading.
Have already notified my local bonafide dealer. Can’t wait to see it in person, it’s time to sell the old town
Are they offering demos? If so, you should take advantage of that
The more I see it the more I like it. My first reaction was negative, but I was wrong.
Any wheels option except carts? Thank you
I’m not 100% sure yet, but Hans said they are working on seeing if the Landing Gear (SideKick) will work and we should have an update on that very soon.
Haa!!! I didn't miss the scupper and the water lines on my own walk through 😜
What did you miss?
Id love to see a video on routing wires through one of these. Especially if you have to have a battery and motor on separate sides
We will be doing that when we get our boats for the season. I’m also going to work on several configurations to give folks ideas even if it is f how I will be outfitting mine
Just seen you on I55 northbound big fan man! Sweet looking truck aswell!
Does it come with a motor?
Does it come with a trolling motor?
Does it come with a trailer?
Does it have Nav lights?
If not....its a Kayak
It needs a motor which means it needs lights and you definitely aren't car topping it so it's probably a boat
@imperialwhovian3461 I'm kinda agreeing with ya, just saying most boats already have motors and a trailers
You can paddle this thing if you want. You also don’t have to have a trailer, you can slide it in the truck bed. (If you only have a car, that’s a different discussion all together) and it doesn’t come with all of that so you can outfit it how you see fit.
@ChadHooverFishing I really like the kayak, but I'm in the market for a lighter weight pedal kayak. I'm about to pick up a Native Slayer propel. Thank you for the Icast coverage videos.
Been waiting for this. I want to see it on the water though. To me this is the Milha slayer, made in the US and I like the set up better.
As soon as I get one I will be doing some extensive testing and videoing on the water
Wonder how it will perform in some chop, all I see is glass calm water demos.
I can’t wait for one of my buddies to get it so I can try it out 😂
Bear comment!! 😂😂😂
bass boat
🤔
Notice how Chad almost lost his train of thought when that woman passed in front of camera at about 10:28 mark!
I am a man…. 😜
Love it and have to get one 😅, really want to see how it handles lake erie
Is that an invite? 😜
A shout-out to Chad's son for the awesome camera work!
Thanks Dave! He’s really killing it
Hey Chad, in your opinion how would this perform on small rivers? Great video.
Wish i could afforded it the price is the only thing i don't like. But in my mind its set up awesome
what's the spacing need to be for parallel bunks? 3 inch pvc. Gotta make sure the trailer is good to go to pick one up in September.
Is how much weight it can carry with or without the skupper plugs?
Without
@@ChadHooverFishing thank you sir. Do you think this would be better than a unlimited for guys over 300?
@@raysgonefishing3271 No
These so called “kayak” manufacturers aren’t even making kayaks anymore! Just making plastic boats. For the price of these things just buy a damn boat! Another industry pricing out the little guy!😡
It's true that we're making bigger boats now. There are lots of "kayaks" that can be used for recreational paddling or even fishing. The Bonafide RVR 119 is a fishing kayak that behaves a lot more like a kayak and still offers motorization and fishing features. It's probably my personal favorite because I come from Whitewater paddling. I started fishing from a 15 ft 28" wide touring kayak in class 1-2
For small boats it's true that you could buy a pond prowler or a used jon boat, BUT one thing that's great about doing larger roto-molded boats for fishing is that we can add so many great features into the design. So right away, you've got things setup so much better than you can do with a basic tub. We can also design the hull side of the boat to have the right performance that can't be done in aluminum or thermo.
We also run whitewater tested resins, so you have durability for lots of environments and the ability to rig them is so much better than base aluminum jon boats. Last thing is that this boat is self-bailing and can keep you out of trouble better. So you don't have as much worry on the water. So these boats offer us more freedom to fish independently in the places we want to fish. And the cost is still much better than other options.
Actually, they are making more kayaks than ever before. They are just ALSO making these bigger fishing kayaks based on consumer demand.
Fiberglas boats will last decades , plastic kayaks become brittle and crack especially with constant UV rays .
Please try to cover the SKF more in depth. I live down here near Seadrift, TX and the SKF look like it very well could be the perfect yak for Texas marsh.
Will do. I put it through the paces down in Florida and I’m working a video up on it.
Here is a quick overview. At 300 lbs, I’m currently a little too big for it. I intended to put it through the paces more after I drop 30-50 lbs.
It still holds me and it’s 100% usable if I was flats fishing all the time. Because I would get getting on and off for wading.
I could use it for creeks, but I feel like the RVR is superior for that.
It’s crazy stable even though I had water in the tank well and under the seat.
I love the simplistic layout, the seat from the SS Series and the open deck.
It hauls ass with a Torqeedo 403 or Newport Vessels NK180, but then I was adding even more weight so I paddled it mostly.
All in all, If you are under 260-270 pounds and don’t carry a ton of gear you will be fine. If you are over that you may get frustrated with the water under the seat and the tankwell flooding.
I don’t usually use scuppers to increase capacity because you then lose the self bailing ability. However, for this kayak you could totally use scuppers to make it a dryer ride because the boat will not hold a ton of water and for fishing flats you can easily hop in and out if you really needed to drain it after wind sloshed water in, after a rainstorm or after you took on a wave from a boat wake.
Hope this helps.
Chad
@ChadHooverFishing Thanks Brother. You actually answered all the question I dont see anyone asking.
I run very light gear. 2 rods. A plano guide series tackle bag. Maybe a soft day cooler and that's it. Wil have to get a tundra 35 sized to try out n place of the seat.
I'm going to look at one next week. Probably going to pull the trigger and get it. I do tons of wade fishing and with the kayak being so light and low profile I really think it's a winner. Maybe in the future we could see and updated model that can make them run a little dryer. I bet the guys at Bonafide are already working on it.
Also, I really like these specialized kayaks like the SKF and RVR. Hope to see more on these platforms and maybe a specialized Off shore kayak. Name it the OFF 130 something. With that and the SKF it would complete my world of fishing.
Thanks again Brother.
If there's uneven weight distribution, is it possible to add internal floatation ?
Great video. Let’s get a new name for this category. Look at auto racing. Yes they are all cars. But dragsters are different than sprint cars. So maybe all of them are technically kayaks. But this is in a different category.
We have a name for it. It’s “fishing kayak”. It’s not and they never have been “kayaks” since the Inuits. We don’t wear skirts, use nose plugs or wear helmets, it’s a fishing kayak. So to your point, there are whitewater kayaks, touring kayaks, sprint kayaks, recreational kayaks and these are fishing kayaks. Fishing kayaks just happen to be the biggest and the broadest category for interpretation because it’s vastly different in the customer base that it serves.
I know it wasn’t meant for this, but I just found my new duck boat for me and the dog.
Cast and blast platform, indeed
You are 110% correct. We are working on some stuff for the duck hunting crowd as we speak!!
Any idea on what the max motor rating will be and if there will be a transom addition to run a gas motor?
All of that is in the works for being verified as we speak!
Can this fit a gas outboard motor and turn it like a solo skiff?
It's simple if it takes a motor to propel it its a boat by law.. but it hurts that most company's are starting just to make these and you have to register it? So once again if you have to register it its a boat. there is no debate. LOL
Where is the video of Chad and Fluke standing and dancing on it? Can't seem to find it, only the Icast ones....
It’s on my Instagram page.
instagram.com/reel/C9gEaZFuhhr/?igsh=MTVrbzJvaWJ4bG44
Will there ever be a pdl drive just inquiring not big fan of registering them
Nope. Pedal drive kayaks have to be made that way from the get go and it costs very little to register as boat/kayak compared to the cost ($1200 -$1500) required for a pedal drive
Chad, are you going to buy and use the XTR 130 as your personal kayak when it becomes available?
Yessir it will be added to the arsenal!
Hey Chad, have you had a chance to load it on your On The Water Innovations trailer yet?
We loaded it on Gene’s OTWI to take it out for the videos we shot. Didn’t even have to move the bunks.
@@ChadHooverFishing awesome, thanks for the reply. Very interested in this kayak
To rig this thing cleanly, you pretty much just have to pick which way you want to fish(standing on the platform or not) and go with it. If you've got your graphs in front of the standing platform, they're too far away to be used from the seat, and if they're mounted to the standing platform, you obviously can't standing on it. I think this boat will be good for some people, but it definitely isn't going to replace every tournament rig. Also, why did Bonafide depart from their naming rules! Shouldve been the XTR 127. I guess the marketing department won🤷♂
We didn’t depart from the naming, the number is the length and the 127 is 12 ft 7”, the RVR 119 is 11’9”, the PWR 129 is 12’9” and the XTR 130 is 13’0”
You are only seeing “quick rigging” setup for trade shows. If you want to use the graphs and the deck you can’t mount the graphs back by the seat, the. Use the deck. You can use a cross boat line other kayaks and put the graphs closer to you and then step up and over on the the deck. You can have one graph off the the side on the rail and then a second graph up front like many anglers do in bass boats. Basically, don’t think just because the marketing people stuck some stuff on the boat for the show and a couple of hype videos that that is the only ways you can configure it. Hope that makes sense.
Whats the draft on it? Say with 400lbs total load?
Draft is very shallow but it will vary based on how evenly you load it.
If you were to flip this in the water, how hard is it to flip it back up?
Just as easy as any other boat. I have video where I show how to get maximum leverage on any boat, no matter the setup! ua-cam.com/video/BfCyll9hzzs/v-deo.htmlsi=DmPuTVgrP84H3ROc
@ChadHooverFishing Thank you for this information, this is one of the best-looking Kayak this year, can't wait to see it in person!
How fast does it go with an 1103 on the back?
We haven’t had a chance to dial it in and play around with the seat position and loading, but the initial short testing we got to do was 5.9 to 6.4. Once we can play around with motor angle, running depth, setback, etc. I will have a much better answer and will be doing a comprehensive video on all of that once I actually get a boat to test and not just one that I got to spent three or four hours in.
On the weight of it? Is that bare bones or outfitted with a motor?
It’s not with the weight of the motor. It’s the boat fully outfitted with the seat but doesn’t include batteries, motors or accessories
Yeah, I'll just put it in my truck... Buddy I got bills to pay. Check your gen x privilege.
Your life decisions aren’t my fault bro, and because I bust my ass and earn the things I enjoy in my life isn’t any type of privilege. 😘
Inflatable packrafts/kayaks is the future. More people have a trunk and not a truck more people dont own a roof rack or trailer. More companies need to switch to that platform to get the masses into it. Less people will buy a kayak because of what a kayak needs. Trailer or roof rack is needed. I ha e a kayak a roof rack and trailer and still would rather take my packraft then my kayak or boat.
Those are also being made and the industry is emerging on them
I understand your point, but wanted to say that I don’t have a roof rack and easily transport my 12’ yak to different locations.
I think inflatables is the next explosion though.
You dont need a brand new truck bud. Trade in the car for something practical..Also, inflatables are a pain in the ass to setup at the ramp. I use both my slayer max (in truck bed) and a tandem inflatable when i go camping and the basic inflatable takes 5 times longer to setup.
Ouch…That’s a lot of Weight 😮😮😮
Compared to what?
Compare to a plastic floating fishing utensil. Trying to use your definition.
its a boat 1 man boat
All kayaks are boats. And it’s not a one man boat either, you can take two grown ass men. Thanks for the comment 😜
Cool boat, but hard to get behind Bonafide with their terrible customer service
BONAFIDE has some of the best customer service in the game. Not sure what you are referencing.
Bonafide is building rigs that meets the needs and wants for TODAY’s anglers.
Exactly, for anglers, not someone wearing a Patagonia sweater vest and and ankle bracelet and doing hacky sack between runs down the river. 😂😂