youtube compression is actually pretty clean sounding. It's a common misconception that it is highly compressed. Here is a debunk video ua-cam.com/video/AYbmBtWtamE/v-deo.html&ab_channel=intheblues
@@alexandroschrysidis379 Kalimera. Would you recommend the Slate for a home or project studio, if one cannot afford the Sony or any of the top mics ? Will it do the trick ?
@@skiiizo I recommend the Slate ML-1 for ANY studio! The possibility to be able to change the mic emulation after recording, is a top selling point for me!
Slate on the raw signal is definitely beaten by Sony, but I hear the difference dissapear as the processes come in. Slate packs a punch when processed and mixed correctly
I liked both of these for different reasons. I’m used to different examples of the same models of vintage microphones sounding different. The differences between these isn’t unlike that. When the reverb was added, the differences between the mics became less immediate. Considering that you can buy 10 of the Slate microphones, for the price of one Sony 800, I don’t know if it’s worth the difference.
wow. this is a serious studio. how is she singing in a large room 90 centimeters from the mic and having no room reverb in the sound? the room is enormous and has reflective surfaces.
The studio was built by Tom Hidley in late 70s. It is an early East Lake design. The studio space is 150 square metres (490 square feet). It is very tall too. There is marble, wood, and carpet depending on the sound you need to achieve you can place the artists.There is a video comparison where the microphones are like 10 meters away and the sound is still good. It's in the strings quartet comparison in this video: ua-cam.com/video/3v88B4ZaQLc/v-deo.html
was thinking the same! Not sure it was really recorded there. I think they rerecorded it in a vocal booth, but took the video from the recording room they already had
It’s interesting. Because that’s where human hearing is most sensitive at hearing distinctions. Probably because of the human voice centering on those high mid characteristics. It makes you wonder if the microphone emulations are actually struggling more in that area, or if we just hear the struggle better in that area.
I'm picking Slate.. ok, it's a little harsher and less pleasant, but it is easier to get rid of harshness then to add it ;). .. and $10K+? I rather have 2 Slate ML-1 and record the signal M/S, then you'll get more depth and debatably it would win over 1 Sony mic (unless you have another $10K + for the set).. I personally rather buy some crypto had that cash.
Couldn't disagree more. They sound closer in the mix than on their own. I have my doubts as to whether anyone can pick them out reliably in a blind test
On my AKG K812 i hear a biiiig difference. The Slate don’t touch me, But the Sony yes, The Slate sounds hollow like a can. I have the Townsend L22 here. It’s better, but the real thing rocks so much more. Or the Warm Audio c8000. Thats hot too.
ελλαδάρα!! The idea behind Slate is amazing.. but in all the comparisons I've heard, the ml-1 has a little bit more sibilance than the actual models and a little bit more harshness..
A De-Esser can solve it. It all depends on the source. Slate sounds better in some cases and sometimes people prefer it. One nice benefit of the Slate is if the C800 is the wrong choice you can switch to a different emulation on the fly
huge difference.. all the 3D and the ambience from the room disappears with the slate... it sound good though. But no where near the original...slate is flatter, less depth and dynamics.. transients get lost.
The Slate has a brassy harshness thin sound to it, it's a similar curve, but don't make the mistake there is a LOT more going on in the Sony than freq curve. Slate sounds cheap.
@@fashionlife5348 Thats a question for Sony. But use www.audiotestkitchen.com and test all the mics there. Also check out my music on my page I used a Neumann tml and audio Technica 4040
Slate is harsh. Not sure they have the mics pointed straight at her nose. Nasal as f. Just a 2 and a half minute commercial. I'd hardly call this a comparison. A little dramatic. Lol
I find it amazing that people really think they can tell the difference of the real thing and the emulation for a youtube video sound source .
youtube compression is actually pretty clean sounding. It's a common misconception that it is highly compressed. Here is a debunk video
ua-cam.com/video/AYbmBtWtamE/v-deo.html&ab_channel=intheblues
The top end on the Sony is smoother to my ears, but the emulation is very good.
Both works for me. It's a great time to live!
@@alexandroschrysidis379 Kalimera. Would you recommend the Slate for a home or project studio, if one cannot afford the Sony or any of the top mics ? Will it do the trick ?
@@skiiizo I recommend the Slate ML-1 for ANY studio! The possibility to be able to change the mic emulation after recording, is a top selling point for me!
@@alexandroschrysidis379 efxaristo para poli. Eimai poli iperifanos pou exei i Ellada paidia me talendo san kai esas.. efxaristo gia ta video..
@@skiiizo forsure!!
The Sony is definitely smoother on the highs. The Slate has a bit more midrange harshness, the Sony sounds almost compressed (which is good)
Slate on the raw signal is definitely beaten by Sony, but I hear the difference dissapear as the processes come in. Slate packs a punch when processed and mixed correctly
All the Slate needs is a touch of compression and we, just a touch to match
Thanks, Alex....I'm thinking of picking the Discrete 4 bundle with Edge solo..for $999...
I liked both of these for different reasons. I’m used to different examples of the same models of vintage microphones sounding different. The differences between these isn’t unlike that. When the reverb was added, the differences between the mics became less immediate. Considering that you can buy 10 of the Slate microphones, for the price of one Sony 800, I don’t know if it’s worth the difference.
wow. this is a serious studio. how is she singing in a large room 90 centimeters from the mic and having no room reverb in the sound? the room is enormous and has reflective surfaces.
ytb917 diffusion and the way it’s built
The studio was built by Tom Hidley in late 70s. It is an early East Lake design. The studio space is 150 square metres (490 square feet). It is very tall too. There is marble, wood, and carpet depending on the sound you need to achieve you can place the artists.There is a video comparison where the microphones are like 10 meters away and the sound is still good. It's in the strings quartet comparison in this video: ua-cam.com/video/3v88B4ZaQLc/v-deo.html
was thinking the same! Not sure it was really recorded there. I think they rerecorded it in a vocal booth, but took the video from the recording room they already had
Every mic emulation (Hardware and Software) I've heard struggles to capture the same 3K-7K characteristics of the mic it's emulating.
It’s interesting. Because that’s where human hearing is most sensitive at hearing distinctions. Probably because of the human voice centering on those high mid characteristics. It makes you wonder if the microphone emulations are actually struggling more in that area, or if we just hear the struggle better in that area.
Struggles is a bit hyperbolic. There's some minor differences in the unprocessed recording but in the mix they start to become indistinguishable
I'm picking Slate.. ok, it's a little harsher and less pleasant, but it is easier to get rid of harshness then to add it ;). .. and $10K+? I rather have 2 Slate ML-1 and record the signal M/S, then you'll get more depth and debatably it would win over 1 Sony mic (unless you have another $10K + for the set).. I personally rather buy some crypto had that cash.
Are you from Greece ?
Yes sir!
in the mix the sony is unbeatable. it can handle way more processing without sounding harsh.
Couldn't disagree more. They sound closer in the mix than on their own. I have my doubts as to whether anyone can pick them out reliably in a blind test
How's the edge duo Vs the c800G?
Edge Duo has more polar patterns. But ML-1 can be much warmer if you drive it in the software.
On my AKG K812 i hear a biiiig difference. The Slate don’t touch me, But the Sony yes, The Slate sounds hollow like a can. I have the Townsend L22 here. It’s better, but the real thing rocks so much more. Or the Warm Audio c8000. Thats hot too.
ελλαδάρα!! The idea behind Slate is amazing.. but in all the comparisons I've heard, the ml-1 has a little bit more sibilance than the actual models and a little bit more harshness..
A De-Esser can solve it. It all depends on the source. Slate sounds better in some cases and sometimes people prefer it.
One nice benefit of the Slate is if the C800 is the wrong choice you can switch to a different emulation on the fly
@@J77199and not to mention they added a c800 m that is a emulation of a older c800 with less sibilance.
huge difference.. all the 3D and the ambience from the room disappears with the slate... it sound good though. But no where near the original...slate is flatter, less depth and dynamics.. transients get lost.
It is very close!
great !!!!
The Slate has a brassy harshness thin sound to it, it's a similar curve, but don't make the mistake there is a LOT more going on in the Sony than freq curve. Slate sounds cheap.
10grand? bruh that mic costs 25,000$ usd
Its crazy i dont think you can buy them anymore unless its used
It was bought new from Miami for 10.000$ around 2002.
Its discontinued thats why it’s 15k plus now.
@@chaddychaddychaddy what's gonna replace it
@@fashionlife5348 Thats a question for Sony. But use www.audiotestkitchen.com and test all the mics there. Also check out my music on my page I used a Neumann tml and audio Technica 4040
The sony sounds so nice im comparing on a iPhone speaker and i can hear it
Slate is harsh. Not sure they have the mics pointed straight at her nose. Nasal as f. Just a 2 and a half minute commercial. I'd hardly call this a comparison. A little dramatic. Lol
That comment was a little dramatic
sony c800g is better sry
that slate is crap,too harsh, c800 can't be beat.
I'm convinced you fake ass engineer wannabes just be talking. They sound so close in a mix no one would even care.