Sebchoof Reacts to "Realm of the Mad God - Was I Wrong?"

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  • Опубліковано 22 лис 2024

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  • @sebchoof
    @sebchoof  2 роки тому +21

    Make sure to subscribe to Josh Strife Hayes! Heres his original video: ua-cam.com/video/Ms5lwYdeBiw/v-deo.html
    Ill be uploading another video on Deca's response to the videos on Reddit and their livestream!

  • @elffyb
    @elffyb 2 роки тому +72

    I feel like he doubled down on the games true flaws, one of which everyone seems to agree upon is the lack of cohesion and activity for new players.

  • @KevinKanthur
    @KevinKanthur 2 роки тому +27

    This video he was way better informed about the game. His first video was overall very ignorant.
    Seb says with the soulbound thing, Josh made it seem like it's better than it is. But if you're concerned about pay to win mechanics, keeping your items after you die, defying the whole mechanics of the game with paid armor, that would be much worse in terms of pay to win mechanics, it would make the game worse, not better.
    22:20 I agree so much with this. There's barely any people in realms anymore. Stumbling upon dungeons and doing them was so fun. Now it's Discord of the Mad God.

    • @slimakovamamam
      @slimakovamamam 2 роки тому

      what are u talking about ? maybe move your lazy ass from nexus and go to gland , i never clean any dungeon solo , sorry snake is one . All times with people .

  • @D3Pinda
    @D3Pinda 2 роки тому +29

    Love all the controversy and interesting conversations/memes around this video and in general, the new player experience. I really wish Deca would try to get new players into this game and try keeping them. Even though I run dungeons a lot through discords, I would fully support a bazaar removal if that meant reviving the realms.

  • @AntsfiringSolo
    @AntsfiringSolo 2 роки тому +16

    7:41 homie was spittin facts

  • @vivid.worker
    @vivid.worker 5 місяців тому +3

    when youve played enough rotmg you forget how weird this game truly is then you see an average person play and you realize you are an alien on this earth

  • @Jagpagaco
    @Jagpagaco 10 місяців тому +6

    josh : it's bad because of this
    ROTMG community : Nah bro what are you talking about ? This is not why it sucks ... *This is*

  • @xdpheoniox
    @xdpheoniox 2 роки тому +7

    Personally, the first vid wasn’t that bad, he just got some things wrong which did deserve to be fixed but when it came to his first experience with the game, it was pretty accurate imo

  • @froozynoobfan
    @froozynoobfan 2 роки тому +3

    as a coming back player, i think it is cool that deca remade all the dungeons, they also re made the game in unity...

  • @ARCsvideos
    @ARCsvideos 2 роки тому +7

    He’s right in that the game is definitely rough for new players with little guidance in any direction. For one, how would someone know you could turn off ally shots to free up visual space?

    • @michh8901
      @michh8901 2 роки тому +4

      Exactly. IMO the game is unplayable with the default settings

    • @bumfricker2487
      @bumfricker2487 Рік тому

      yeah, ally shots, camera rotation/focus distance, and opacity being mentioned EARLY would make the new player experience much better

  • @RotmgTroller
    @RotmgTroller 2 роки тому +33

    let it be known i was timed out for 3 hours for (rightfully) bullying the "british people" (ew... Britain!)

  • @siegeayy6858
    @siegeayy6858 2 роки тому +3

    The main point I want to make as someone who isn't good at the game in the sense of skill is that if I don't know something or want to know something it's an easy UA-cam search or Realmeye search away. Before anyone replies with new players don't know about Realmeye, well type in the item or boss you want and write Realm of the Mad God next to it and you're almost guaranteed a search result that leads to Realmeye anyway. I will say Discords are very harsh to the new player because of requirements but Discords unfortunately aren't really meant for the new player, now hear me out the new player should achieve at least a few stars on every class to see if they enjoy the class enough to want to exalt it anyway.

  • @dvbroyo7127
    @dvbroyo7127 2 роки тому +3

    Best way to Level Up is. Level to Level 5 wait for oryx, boom Level 20.
    Super easy, super fast, super chill

  • @caitlincobbett3134
    @caitlincobbett3134 10 місяців тому +2

    My first time playing Realm i wasnt into it and took my friend wanting to play and also my laptop not being able to run anything else, only after playing for hours did i start enjoying the game. The new player experience sucks as i recently introduced my bf to the game but had such a hard time learning, mostly watching me play the game and explaining things he slowly understood the game. In short being new to the game sucks, so i found his first video to be fair and honest with how bad it is for someone jumping into the game without someone to walk them through.

  • @CloudWalkBeta
    @CloudWalkBeta 2 роки тому +3

    small ideas for helping newer players I would petition for
    lower level dungeons could drop stat potions, like finding pots in pirate caves, spider dens, etc. (not life, but MAYBE mana? Mystery pots would also be fine)
    Maybe a ring with XP boost on it? If you get 1 early, you could re use it sensibly forever as a newer player. Could also be for sale in the nexus.
    Beyond that, I think maybe helpful tips could be added into chat that could help newer players find their feet, make them aware of settings that might optimize performance later down the line.
    perhaps adding ‘tips’ you can read when you die that are geared to helping you know why you died. Like if you die in tombs, it could say "did you know its much easier to just fight 1 boss at a time without waking the other 2 up, you can just kill bes, then nut, then geb".
    Newer players are not learning how to solo tombs is a great example, especially because the experienced players do not need to run through tombs anymore!
    These tips would also be very useful in end game dungeons, so that people who arent using discords, could learn some tips that will legit help them overcome endgame bosses, like “try using a defence tincture during xyz phase".
    I dont exactly blame Deca for every problem we have with realm, they have done a stellar job reworking the garbage kablam put in the game, the changes have substantially improved mid + late game for remaining players, plus they also rebuilt realm getting off the flash platform, these accomplishments have done realm wonders for the health of the game. We shouldn’t have put such ‘perfection’ expectations on deca’s shoulders.
    I only hope that with more help we can find solutions deca are willing to implement that will lend more encouragement for the newer players, without the need for us to become toxic towards the dev’s who are still busting their nuts off to work on this great game.

  • @frkcybtw
    @frkcybtw 2 роки тому +34

    **laughs in 14k spent** Love that Josh has always been very good at taking criticism, and that he made an update video.
    Edit: Would love to see Josh experience Discord raids. I personally find it to be the most boring way to play, but for someone that does play other MMOs with "Raid Leaders", he might enjoy it.

    • @sebchoof
      @sebchoof  2 роки тому +17

      I think most people would find dungeons fun until they clear it for the first time since it can be a challenge, but farming it with discord’s is always so cringe xD

    • @frkcybtw
      @frkcybtw 2 роки тому +2

      @@sebchoof My point was more that the "Discord Raids" kinda originates from games like WoW, and other big MMOs that he's put a lot more time into. I recently stopped playing the game because I wasn't willing to do 1k shatters muted in a discord to exalt all my characters attack. Love the videos man, your feedback is always excellent.

    • @frkcybtw
      @frkcybtw 2 роки тому +1

      @@sebchoof wish you had left in your reaction to the deca post :(

    • @hosec4905
      @hosec4905 2 роки тому +1

      Bullshit you couldn't spent 14k

    • @frkcybtw
      @frkcybtw 2 роки тому +1

      @@hosec4905 14k over 10 years my guy, are you new to mmos?

  • @TelekineticCheez
    @TelekineticCheez Рік тому +2

    Sebchoof: "Deca should get rid of the grand bazaar"
    Also Sebchoof: "1.2k USD those are rookie numbers, you should have paid to win more man"
    🤣🤣🤣

    • @sebchoof
      @sebchoof  Рік тому +1

      XD grand bazaar isn’t really a p2w key apart from keys

  • @surreptitiouswritings
    @surreptitiouswritings 2 роки тому +6

    Not sure how you can say deca hasn’t been catering to endgame players. Oryx 3, Exaltations, (every month long event) Shatters update, UT Forge all primarily focused on endgame players

    • @sebchoof
      @sebchoof  2 роки тому

      Forge you can make items from every rarity but otherwise it’s been one new end game dungeon per year max

  • @saunorine
    @saunorine Рік тому +1

    23:50 they should just make all in-realm exalt dungeons drop 20% more loot

  • @hidanobitoakakarp
    @hidanobitoakakarp Рік тому +1

    His first realm ever was an O3 realm in his first episode

  • @orcajesus6621
    @orcajesus6621 2 роки тому +6

    i think realm should make the tutorial start you on a maxed 8/8 char with a good pet, and then it should throw you into a dungeon that a new player can play through that actually shows mechanics and stuff, but then at the end is a boss that kills you pretty much guaranteed shows up to show the death mechanic, it should also give you like 1000 fame or smt as a start and maybe a basic pet with only 1 of either heal or magic heal at a low level (not both)

  • @BeatricetheLynx
    @BeatricetheLynx 2 роки тому +4

    deca did literally nothing to the game and really keeps saying "here's a 20$ skin, take it or leave it"

  • @davidpearson6538
    @davidpearson6538 2 роки тому +1

    Seb if they removed bazaars there would be no one popping keys in them which means no money for deca.

    • @sebchoof
      @sebchoof  2 роки тому +1

      they can for sure still pop elsewhere or privately in guild hall if this was to happen

  • @KaiBruv
    @KaiBruv 2 роки тому +2

    i know this is probly a bad take but for someone with thousands of hours in the game personally i wish i could go back to first starting the game mybe 8 or 9 years ago when i started playing it was alot better of an experience but saying that alot has changed and i have no clue what it would be like now

  • @masksttt3172
    @masksttt3172 Місяць тому +2

    I just started this game and got 5 characters lvl 20 in the first 7hrs🤤🤤🤤

  • @Murasane
    @Murasane 6 місяців тому

    I also was thinking the new player experience was not great and they prioritize end game content and game players too much. Things like the shatters rework and the ddocks reqork for players who are newer or medium skilled changed those dungeons too drastically to the point that it doesnt feel quite like a rework and more like a complete overhaul, previously i would rank those dungeons at around 5/10 for ddocks and 6.5/10 for old shatters which might be difficult but doable with groups and you didnt need to fully understand everything about the dungeon to be able to do it with a group in the realm. Now because they scaled the dungeons to make so much harder, I never see anyone go into a ddocks ever, and because the dungeon is harder now its almost impossible for those same players to be able to do it now, and shatters was made so hard that the only feasible way to do it is discord runs. The reworks imo should have kept these dungeons around the same difficulty instead of turning the difficulty way up to the point that they essentially killed any interest for people in the realm to do these dungeons now and i think it just keeps getting more and more worse since they only seem to care about making the game harder to challenge the existing player base. When was the last time a medium level dungeon that just drops a BASIC stat pot as its main reward added? Last i can recall was Magic woods which was so long ago I don't even remember when they added it. Since then every dungeon that has been released or reworked has dropped greater stat potions and there hasnt been any dungeons around the skill level of mwoods since, which is more of a clear sign that they are only caring about endgame players

  • @jonginny9879
    @jonginny9879 2 роки тому +4

    Was waiting for this video

  • @POTlON
    @POTlON 2 роки тому +1

    Someone should tell him to press the H button too see health bars

  • @styxrakash4639
    @styxrakash4639 2 роки тому +2

    I hate myself. I should have applied myself more.

  • @LordOfPenguinss
    @LordOfPenguinss 2 роки тому +4

    if you dont know the kendo stick story you cant have fun from this game he is playing the game wrong he need to kendo stick history

  • @ChristianSasso
    @ChristianSasso 2 роки тому +3

    You said the people they prioritze are whales...int he video he says that the end game players are the whales...no need to disagree with him, and also most of the patch notes and dungeon additions are aimed at more advanced players than newer players

    • @sebchoof
      @sebchoof  2 роки тому +3

      There’s a large portion of the end game players who haven’t spent money’s me another large portion that hasn’t spent under 200$, a whale would be someone who has spent thousands (like me fml)

    • @ChristianSasso
      @ChristianSasso 2 роки тому +2

      @@sebchoof yeah that is definitely true, but I think he was just talking about how monetization of the game is focused on the end game players and all the midland dungeons havent seen a spark of something new in years...like whens the last time you ran a Mad Lab

  • @masterjayro8919
    @masterjayro8919 2 роки тому +3

    I hope Josh Strife Hayes does a 3 hour reaction to this video

  • @ducky7129
    @ducky7129 2 роки тому +1

    Ah yes 3.9k spent 1800+ keys popped, 5000hrs+ over like 9 years and i still love hate this game and how p2w. Only thing that's even kept me playing is the friends ive made along the way. Wouldn't be surprised if realm only has another 2-3 years in it before the money printer runs out of ink and it eventually rolls over and dies.

  • @TheKindKitten
    @TheKindKitten 2 роки тому +4

    Nothing at all to do with the video, but *hugs* for you Sebchoof and I hope that you're having a lovely week so far ^.^ x

    • @sebchoof
      @sebchoof  2 роки тому +2

      You too!! :)

    • @TheKindKitten
      @TheKindKitten 2 роки тому +1

      @@sebchoof Thanks! Just working on the two games still (one MMO) so going well but...busyyyy . Also...one second reading your reply and I blushed. I'll try harder not to, next time X3

    • @bjently
      @bjently 2 роки тому

      @@TheKindKitten ew wtf

    • @TheKindKitten
      @TheKindKitten 2 роки тому +1

      @@bjently Calm yourself. x

  • @OryXity
    @OryXity 2 роки тому +1

    i have almost 700 hours on rotmg, and so i stopped playing about 6 months ago, never once got a doom bow, never once completed a dungeon harder than the main pot dungeons (excluding life + mana), literally never been able to complete a hive, LoD, Cdepths or anything like that, i either die because 2 shots land on me that do half my health (with max tier gear, 6/8 and usually a UT or 2) or because other people cause my death, the amount of people in dungeons that can somehow tank every shot from everything but because of that will DRAG 20 minions onto you so you just flatline instantly is so annoying, my pet doesnt heal as much as theirs, my DEF seems to block ALOT less damage than theirs with the same gear, its just ridiculous that i can play so much, get good at boss attack patterns and dodging AND STILL just die to undodgable attack, moronic "allies" or just nexus button not F'ing working, doesnt help that i cant get good gear that would make it easier to complete the dungeon because i cant complete the dungeon on hardcore mode in the first place

    • @-Jesse.C
      @-Jesse.C Рік тому

      If you can't do cdepths in a small group on a 6/8 then that problem is you and and not the game. Not being mean but you clearly suck at the game and think it has to do with other factors. RotMG has a lot of problems but you didn't addresses a single one outside of the fact there is a huge skill issue at hand.

    • @keiss73
      @keiss73 Рік тому +2

      thats just a skill issue brother

  • @jackandrew351
    @jackandrew351 Рік тому +1

    Proof that this game hasn't really gotten any better since the WildShadow days.

  • @Zak-jt6nk
    @Zak-jt6nk Рік тому +2

    The problems with the game have always been the same and always will new players should be introduced to pets right away and given a starter pet with gauranteed heal on first ability. Forge and exalts basically ruined the game for me forge removed the excitement from white bags and exalts just added unnecessary power creep and an insanely long boring grind that nobody really wants to do. I really agree with no more bazaars as well.

  • @spargelran8713
    @spargelran8713 7 місяців тому +1

    this guy is mad he gets skill issued so much

  • @ChiliPhili
    @ChiliPhili 2 роки тому +3

    Very gud vid yes

  • @vycanismelodis
    @vycanismelodis 2 роки тому +1

    what do you mean by removing the bazaar being a good thing? i didnt quite understand that

    • @zebo6162
      @zebo6162 2 роки тому +1

      From what I understand the “exclusivity” behind Discord runs is that you pop keys away from random people, thus leading to the realms being unnecessary and thus empty. Removing Bazaars would take a step towards the possibility of keys being made more “public.”
      Personally I don’t think this would work considering key openers can still kick people and there are still plenty of places you can go to be “alone” in the game.

    • @baxternaylor1834
      @baxternaylor1834 2 роки тому +2

      @@zebo6162 I'm pretty sure that the key openers can only kick people if the key is opened in the bazaar. So if you remove the bazaar, you remove the possibility for discords to parse random people from their runs.

    • @sebchoof
      @sebchoof  2 роки тому +2

      Yeahh these guys got it basically cease its existence, would work well cause /kick only works in bazaars. Atm the only benefit bazaars really have is extreme control of who’s in your runs while at the cost of removing a lot of active players from rotmg, promoting the gatekeepy reqs and discord meta of the game, incentivising guilds less which used to have the only way to make things private which already have no benefit. The only thing that’s missing that can make it work is making all dungeons non griefable since in my opinion that’s the only valid reason you should kick someone

    • @luxeayt6694
      @luxeayt6694 2 роки тому

      @@sebchoof I've played this game for like 30 hours and do not know what bazaars are lol

  • @jasonsenter1646
    @jasonsenter1646 2 роки тому +4

    I wish he never posted his second video. It was exactly what you said, an unnecessary apology video. His first video was perfect, but so many toxic RotMG fans had the audacity to write harsh comments to him telling him that he got so much wrong when in reality he only got one single thing wrong.

  • @dreamlifter787
    @dreamlifter787 2 роки тому +1

    As so
    Some who’s done multiple react videos it’s better to just play the video once through have your notes at the end ready to go and talk about what he’s saying

    • @dreamlifter787
      @dreamlifter787 2 роки тому

      Every time you pause just to talk literally causes the flow of information to be disrupted

    • @PeakSaber
      @PeakSaber 2 роки тому

      People react differently. Everyone that avoids copyright/dmca strikes are ones that have to entertain halfway through. If you wish to get a strike very easily, go ahead and play the whole video without any interruptions

  • @marekvisser3311
    @marekvisser3311 2 роки тому +1

    In the future when making these videos pls up the volume of the video. Thank you. I like your videos

  • @fiendingcat
    @fiendingcat 2 роки тому +1

    outro song?

    • @sebchoof
      @sebchoof  2 роки тому +2

      I think it’s called rookit - do it

    • @fiendingcat
      @fiendingcat 2 роки тому

      @@sebchoof ty sir

  • @notnapkin4594
    @notnapkin4594 2 роки тому +1

    2:06 thats me POG?
    i pmed him 3 times and i made it in :O

  • @jaylanmartinez492
    @jaylanmartinez492 2 роки тому +2

    Ah yes deca decides to finally take their head put their asses only because a big UA-camr finds out about rotmg

  • @Adamki7x
    @Adamki7x 2 роки тому +2

    Hello from stream!

  • @kek_rl2073
    @kek_rl2073 2 роки тому +1

    Where am I?

  • @ahtomogger9969
    @ahtomogger9969 2 роки тому +2

    Choofin'

  • @youngkob3408
    @youngkob3408 Рік тому +1

    11:00 The pain on sebchoofs face for letting this game sucker him so hard🤣 capitalism is GREAT for game design!

  • @plsbanhackers9031
    @plsbanhackers9031 7 місяців тому +1

    “This game is shit just admit it”
    Meanwhile Sebchoof has been uploading since I was in med school and still uploading after I finished residency 😂

    • @sebchoof
      @sebchoof  7 місяців тому +1

      I still think the game can be pretty gross in general hence the player decline but u play in a super specific way to make it fun :D

  • @linkfloyd1975
    @linkfloyd1975 2 роки тому +1

    What's exalting???

  • @-MeTeC-
    @-MeTeC- 2 роки тому

    Why you cut at the end, I wanted to see deca response :(

    • @sebchoof
      @sebchoof  2 роки тому

      I uploaded a separate video for that because there’s quite a lot :)

  • @IAmNotJustJess
    @IAmNotJustJess 2 роки тому +1

    he-

  • @ToastyPete
    @ToastyPete 2 роки тому +1

    how can he say this is the worst mmorpg when trove exist

  • @admiralpie7032
    @admiralpie7032 2 роки тому +1

    What does 4/4 mean? This isn’t abt music

    • @sebchoof
      @sebchoof  2 роки тому

      Best in slot four out of four items

  • @forresthaynes460
    @forresthaynes460 2 роки тому +1

    with the new 500$ campagin and the lack of good updates im starting to feel like rotmg is just a big cash grab for deca :/

  • @Wallynator23
    @Wallynator23 2 роки тому +1

    post deca response and interview now.

  • @ItsMe-pm2fz
    @ItsMe-pm2fz 2 роки тому +3

    How dare you say that you will show us a funny reddit post after the vid and then not do it. Expected better, now go make apology video

    • @sebchoof
      @sebchoof  2 роки тому +4

      Oh sorry my bad didn’t realise, promise I’ll put it in the next xd

  • @amedespinoza9638
    @amedespinoza9638 2 роки тому +1

    Dude crying for lvlup tp 20 and here i am making 1 8/8 char per day for exalts smh

  • @7heMech
    @7heMech 2 роки тому +2

    sus

  • @lcombo
    @lcombo 2 роки тому +2

    Rotmg troller is just on top of you the whole stream lol

  • @elijahwatjen9839
    @elijahwatjen9839 Рік тому +1

    His settings and gear are so bad xd

  • @prohan2513
    @prohan2513 2 роки тому +2

    sebchunf

  • @bohmadabibi3172
    @bohmadabibi3172 2 роки тому +3

    Bro vid too long im too busy dying in rotmg

  • @jupitars7506
    @jupitars7506 2 роки тому +1

    the worst part of the game is that if you want to do end game stuff you have to be in a discord

  • @user-xz4pv2sw7u
    @user-xz4pv2sw7u 2 роки тому +3

    dude getting a heal mheal is easy as shit just go post on realm eye buying eggs

  • @CryHavocWarDog
    @CryHavocWarDog 2 роки тому +1

    I saw you on US East. You don't sound like you belong there, so, stay out. Also, Dimitus scales to the difficulty of the dungeon.

  • @lukullberg955
    @lukullberg955 2 роки тому +6

    His review is just that he has skill issue. He wants to be a nerd and play skyrim but his subscribers wanted him to try out a REAL game so he was coerced into it. Now he is soying out and crying.
    Thank god he actually asked some players for advice this time and realised its an MMO and actually interacted with other people.
    >My new player experience is bad because I don't have npc elves telling me what to do that gives me deep shitty lore I can be a nerd about
    Oh the misery

    • @pavleostojic4110
      @pavleostojic4110 2 роки тому +17

      Man you cant lie to yourself about the state of the game. For most of the videos he was spittin facts. I love realm i played it since i was a kid, and i always come back to it eventually. Dont take time out of your day to spread negativity.

    • @lukullberg955
      @lukullberg955 2 роки тому +3

      @@pavleostojic4110 The state of the game is trash but that doesn't change the fact that he is a skyrim playing nerd

    • @sebastiansanchez8752
      @sebastiansanchez8752 2 роки тому

      Cope, mald even