Please Ashe for next videos adjust the volume of the soundtrack in background a bit lower, since it may distract from your speech. Apart this, good content as usual
Great video like always. I’m learning at least one new thing every time you hit the upload button. Please consider doing a playlist with videos in the right order when you are done with all those bow setup and tuning videos.
I tried today to really ”tune ” my string. I had a +1 tiller and listened to the tone of the string which wasn’t clean. I changed my tiller to +2 and got a pretty clean B-flat (on my digital tuner). Haven’t shot it yet but I’ll get back to you on that ... doesn’t hurt to try 🎶
Glad you made this video to follow up on the tiller. However, that is not at all how to set the tiller from what I learned and from what I hear from other professional archers. The tiller, as you said, is adjusted to make sure that both limbs act synchronized on release. There's a very easy way to check this: bring your bow up and place the sight pin on a spot on the target face - the smaller the better. Now, start drawing back the string - if your sight stays on the spot, your tiller is correct. If your sight moves up while drawing back, the top limb is too strong, if your sight moves down, the bottom limb is too strong. It's that easy. The sound of the bow is mainly influenced by the correct brace height, which you should adjust ONLY by putting twists in your string.
I know what you mean, as this used to be a common recommendation to do the tiller, but it's somewhat outdated now. You can try and draw back extremely straight, but depending on your draw the sight will move up and down and this is a better method to do the tiller. W&W recommend the sound tuning approach for tiller
I am new to archery, please explain why the noise the bow makes matters. I get how it is altered but why does it matter? Also you must have been aware of the interference on the sound track from the next room so why not stop it at source before continuing? As a newby I find your videos and Jake Kaminski's really useful, thank you.
Hi Ashe. Is there a guide for the brace height? I have a 66" bow (30lb) and being new to the sport, wondered what my brace height should be. Great videos by the way!
Hey Alan! Thanks for joining the channel and welcome to the sport :) There should be an acceptable range noted in your bow manual. It varies between manufacturer but you might be able to google your riser model too and find the acceptable basic range :)
How do you set your nocking point for tiller sound tuning? Both are directly correlated, so a different sound might be due to an improper nocking point position if the tiller is changed.
I tried this in the past but due to the time it takes to change braceheight i cant tell the difference in sound - do you do this by ear or do you record the sound and then decide which was best? also should this be done without dampeners installed or should we have them on the limbs and stabs?
I've found that by ear is the best way to do this - I tried recording but it didn't work at all, so I'd definitely do it by ear :) If there isn't much difference then it probably means you're already in the right range :)
Great video! Do i have to check the brace height every time i shoot or only after i assemble the bow? Because after i shoot a couple arrows, the brace height changes.
I did actually try this but I couldn't get it to work, and found doing it by ear better :) I think if you had a great microphone and were an audio expert you might be able to analyze it well enough
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy Hi Ashe. I've tried it too. With professional sound equipment you should notice differences in the tille tuning. It's like tuning a piano (my hobby) :)
It is worth to mention that different arrows will sound different. Light X10s will make bow sound bit louder than heavy indoor "pipes" like Eastons X23s. Good video, thanks and keep them coming.
If you find it a bit hard to hear the difference taking the dampers off can help make it more obvious, but I like to do it with everything on because that's what you'll be shooting with in the end :)
I have crank sound noise after releasing on my bow 68" riser 25", i would like to know based on what I make upper tiller 16mm 17mm 18mm and the Brace height between 21 to 23mm
Great video! Does changing draw weight with tiller bolts (not tiller!) or changing to another string (length, count of strains, material) influence brace height tuning?
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And you really don’t need music in the background. At all. Thank you for really useful info 👍
Please Ashe for next videos adjust the volume of the soundtrack in background a bit lower, since it may distract from your speech.
Apart this, good content as usual
My apologies, I agree that's a bit loud on that one - I'll make sure the volume is a bit lower in the future :)
Great video like always.
I’m learning at least one new thing every time you hit the upload button.
Please consider doing a playlist with videos in the right order when you are done with all those bow setup and tuning videos.
Great idea! I'll do that :)
I tried today to really ”tune ” my string. I had a +1 tiller and listened to the tone of the string which wasn’t clean. I changed my tiller to +2 and got a pretty clean B-flat (on my digital tuner). Haven’t shot it yet but I’ll get back to you on that ... doesn’t hurt to try 🎶
String material can also have a great effect on the sound frequency of the bow.
Definitely!
A demonstration would’ve been nice.
Excellent video!
Thanks!
Glad you made this video to follow up on the tiller. However, that is not at all how to set the tiller from what I learned and from what I hear from other professional archers. The tiller, as you said, is adjusted to make sure that both limbs act synchronized on release. There's a very easy way to check this: bring your bow up and place the sight pin on a spot on the target face - the smaller the better. Now, start drawing back the string - if your sight stays on the spot, your tiller is correct. If your sight moves up while drawing back, the top limb is too strong, if your sight moves down, the bottom limb is too strong. It's that easy. The sound of the bow is mainly influenced by the correct brace height, which you should adjust ONLY by putting twists in your string.
I know what you mean, as this used to be a common recommendation to do the tiller, but it's somewhat outdated now. You can try and draw back extremely straight, but depending on your draw the sight will move up and down and this is a better method to do the tiller. W&W recommend the sound tuning approach for tiller
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy My experience differs.
Another way is to build a rig to draw back the string and mount a laser on the bow. Take out human error.
I am new to archery, please explain why the noise the bow makes matters. I get how it is altered but why does it matter? Also you must have been aware of the interference on the sound track from the next room so why not stop it at source before continuing? As a newby I find your videos and Jake Kaminski's really useful, thank you.
Hi Ashe. Is there a guide for the brace height? I have a 66" bow (30lb) and being new to the sport, wondered what my brace height should be. Great videos by the way!
Hey Alan! Thanks for joining the channel and welcome to the sport :) There should be an acceptable range noted in your bow manual. It varies between manufacturer but you might be able to google your riser model too and find the acceptable basic range :)
How do you set your nocking point for tiller sound tuning? Both are directly correlated, so a different sound might be due to an improper nocking point position if the tiller is changed.
I know what you mean, but it doesn't affect it too much so you can focus on the tiller first, then do the nocking point after :)
I tried this in the past but due to the time it takes to change braceheight i cant tell the difference in sound - do you do this by ear or do you record the sound and then decide which was best?
also should this be done without dampeners installed or should we have them on the limbs and stabs?
I've found that by ear is the best way to do this - I tried recording but it didn't work at all, so I'd definitely do it by ear :) If there isn't much difference then it probably means you're already in the right range :)
Great video! Do i have to check the brace height every time i shoot or only after i assemble the bow? Because after i shoot a couple arrows, the brace height changes.
Make sense to use a high quality recorder and microphone and then analyze the sound spectrum of each variation of tiller?
I did actually try this but I couldn't get it to work, and found doing it by ear better :) I think if you had a great microphone and were an audio expert you might be able to analyze it well enough
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy Hi Ashe. I've tried it too. With professional sound equipment you should notice differences in the tille tuning. It's like tuning a piano (my hobby) :)
Wow, I've heard that U need between 1 and 1.5 twists per inch for your string, or is that just for Flemish twist strings??
It is worth to mention that different arrows will sound different. Light X10s will make bow sound bit louder than heavy indoor "pipes" like Eastons X23s. Good video, thanks and keep them coming.
Very true, great point!
Hi Ashe. Do you recomend sound tuning, taking out from the bow all dampers and anti vibration stuff?
If you find it a bit hard to hear the difference taking the dampers off can help make it more obvious, but I like to do it with everything on because that's what you'll be shooting with in the end :)
Lovely video!Very useful,it helps a lot 😊
Thanks!
U mentioned zero mm is it mean the difference between the upper and lower?
That's correct :)
I have crank sound noise after releasing on my bow 68" riser 25", i would like to know based on what I make upper tiller 16mm 17mm 18mm and the Brace height between 21 to 23mm
Great video!
Does changing draw weight with tiller bolts (not tiller!) or changing to another string (length, count of strains, material) influence brace height tuning?
IMO changing weight through screwing in or out the tiller bolts is not an ideal solution - they’re called tiller bolts and not “poundage” bolts…
Why not use a decibel meter?
You need to remove or reduce the background music on your videos; the content is great, but it’s difficult to understand what you’re saying at times.
Why have the music in the background its very off putting
Interesting. Thankyou.
Thanks for watching Mike!
Was expecting to see some hands-on, or a better description of what to listen for. Instead, there was 10 minutes of talking and jazz hands.
Feel exactly the same, every time I see a interesting topic from this guy it ends up he staring at you talking with some cheerful light music.
I'll do some more hands on stuff soon :)