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Sir army old pensioners ki pension tu bohat kam hyaj be jo 2000 sy phely ye 2010 tak retd howy un ki pension kam hy aj be un ki pension 12 hazar tak hy kia ye bohat zaida pension hy ye army waly goliyan be kha k apny bachy yateem pension k ley nhi karty wo apny waton aur qoam k leay karty hen
ماشاء اللہ! شرٹ کا کلر بہت زبردست ہے!🎉💕
سب کو فوجیوں کی پینشن پہ بہت تکلیف ھے ۔۔
Agar 80% se koi masla hai to enrolment kam karden.Agar Aap civil servants aor Mil per,a ko barabar kar rahay hain to ye munasib nahen. 90 % civil servants apnay ghar le nadeem service kartay hai jabke forces walay sari service ghar se door service kartay hain.Forces walay =50 Temprature siachin men service kartay hain donon ke benefits men bhi farq hona chaheye.
Bahi 24 hrs k mulazim hy army aap comparison kistrah krtay hain
انکوایک دوسال کےلئےفوج میں بھرتی کرلیناچاہئےسمجھ آجائیگی
In the armed forces all uniform persons go through a tough training which is up to 5 years. Moreover, they play with their life and death for 24 hrs as hundreds of thousands have sacrificed their lives in their youth stage for defence of the Nation and the mother land . Most of the uniform persons are forcefully retired after 18 years of service. More than 80 percent are retired at the age of 34 years then they join another govt job for survival of their children. Retired persons from armed forces serve far more better and energetically compared to civilians in any department. After completing 20 to 25 years of service in any other department strongly deserve a second pension as per rules and justification. To the short employees of defence forces strongly deserve for two pensions and it's obligatory for defence authorities to protect the rights of their soldiers who have dedicated their lives mere for defence of the Motherland.
thousands have sacrificed their lives in their youth stage for the defence of the Nation and the motherland - when was Pakistan attacked?
@@vinsin328 Indeed, you are totally by foot in the field of history and your conscience has absolutely dead. First of all try to alive your conscience then Study about the 1965 war, 1971 war and day today terrorism in the country where our soldiers fought with the enthusiasm of mortared and loyalty with this Land. No doubt, some selfish and corrupt Politicians and Generals made wrong decisions which badly harm our Motherland and the Nation that is why our country is wrapped in the terrorism. In the 1965 war our soldiers threw bunmbs from C 130 and hundreds of them sacrificed their lives with the bumbs . Same is the case in the 1971 war.Our Armed forces are covering every inch of the sacred Pak Land otherwise enemies are surrounding our country from every direction. To the short , soldiers guard our Pak Land in the cold and summer nights when you sleep in the warm beds. One who has alive conscience or experiences practically can justify the real services of the Armed Forces. Allah Pak bless us with the true guidance of Islam.
💯✔️darust hy ,Kash koi police ka officer bhi awaz uthata k police bhi aik force hy or 55 Saal par retirement wali zalmana shart police par Lago Nahin honi chaheay,
Army is the custodian of the country. Soldiers lay down their lives for the country. Their job is such that they get retirement or retired early.In China and other countries, they are absorbed permanently in Govt services for the rest of life till 60 years.This is special service where no other job can be got.In civil service,the servants do multiple jobs I.e properties business, operating educational institutions and other businesses. Soldiers cannot do any job when in service.Their welfare is must to keep their morale high.Unnecessary expenses should be curtailed.
@@ManzoorHussain-dw1zf You are absolutely right but the ground base reality regarding the toughness of their life is far more than this.
دیکھیں جی بات بڑی سیدھی ہے ریٹائرمنٹ قانونی مدت پوری کرنے پر ملتی ہے اور وہ اگر اتنی ہو جس سے دال روٹی چل جائے تو اپ پابندی لگاتے اچھے لگتے ہیں اور دوسری جاب والے اے سی والے کمرے میں سلا کر تنخواہ تو نہیں دیتے ناں وہ معاوزہ محنت کا ملتا ہے
Buhat achi bataian ki apne jazzakallah khair janab ALLAH pak Aapko salamat Rakhay aamerm ya rabalaalern
پنشن ایک لاکھ سے زیادہ اور چالیس ہزار سے کم نہیں ہونی چاہیے ۔۔۔۔ سب سے بہترین فارمولا یہی ہے
IN FOREIGN COUNTRY, SECURITY FORCES ARE EXAMPTED FROM SALES TEX ,WHY NOT FOR OUR COUNTRY,SECURITY FORCES SHULD B EXAMPTED,
Yahan tou ilzam lagta hai Kay fauj Sara tax kha jati hai
Jabkay monthly hazaron rupees tax deduct houta hai fauji ka
Aoa, I appreciate you You have discuss on this main issue.
مہتاب صاحب ٹھیک کہ رھے ھیں ،پنشن پر بھی ٹیکس ھونا چاھیے. ھر قسم کی انکم پر ایک جیسا ٹیکس ھونا چاھییے.
This pension is the only source of income for retirees. They have to meet the expenses of medical treatment, marriages of their children. Pensions more than two lacs ,may be considered taxable but not less than that.
Good programme....😊Army jaw
کوئی بندہ چھوٹے سکیل والوں کے بارے میں جو 2005 کےبعدریٹائر ہوئے ہیں ان کی کم از کم پینشن کا فیصلہ کریں
وہ بے چارے اب بھی 15 سے 17 ہزار پینشن لے رہے ہیں
یہ ظلم عظیم ہے
پلیز یہ بات اوپر تک پہنچائیں وہ بھی انسان ہیں
Well said Kazakh allah
Without quoting any government authorities/ notifications these programs has no justification, hence, seeing/viewing such like stories on You Tube are totally selfmade and equal to time waste with full of confusion and great cause of stress for the public at a large scales.
Well said
Jazzman Allah
ویریگڈ انفارمیشن
Zuberdust analysis.
Please raise the voice for war wounded persons....
Individual get pension for his service in army.... And get pay for his work or job which he provides to new organization
Army Jawan Mulik ka defence kartey Hein...Rishwat nahi lately..
.in ka kia qasoor hy..
Thanks enker sahab thanx ❤❤bohat achi baat ki hai 20 / ki bri tkleef hai penshen khatam kr k khud payt bharna chahty Hain lakhon Walon ki bnd krain hzaron Walon baycharon ka Kya qusoor hai
Good program......jo none government Pakistani ha unk lia bhi 60 years k bad pension start kia jaye.........
Salaam jazakallah Khair
Ghareeb awam ki pension bhari Hy burocreates jo ayashi kr rhy hn wo kisi ko nazar ni aa rhy
Thé best ínformatíve plz keép it up jazzak ALLAN 🎉🎉
Sir g. Its too much difference duty timing between army and civilian please. 24 hrs and 6 hrs
پلیز ایک پروگرام گروپ انشورنس پہ بہی ۔ یہ جو ماہانہ ڈڈکشن ہوتی وہ واپس نہیں ہوتی یہ پیسے کہاں جاتے ہیں؟؟؟؟
Good talk and information.
I agreed with yiur suggestions sir.
Pension fund is not invested in a single risky stock market. It is a Mix of secure Govt Bonds, Stock Market etc
Off-course, Fund Managers skills are important but its not a total risky thing.
Nice discussion..
80% and 20% main hakoomat ko 20 % bht chubti ha. Sari talwar civilian pey chalay ge q k un k behalf per bolnay wal koi nhe.
Army retired personnels ke pension ko civil fund sey draw krna aik ajeeb mantaq ha. Budget ka major slice defence budget kay liay mukhtas ha to un ke pension bhe usi defence budget sey q nhe de jati?
Dear friends how you made this calculation that defence pension is 80%
Just beating the bushes.
سول سروس اور ڈیفینس کی سروس میں زمین آسمان کا فرق ہے۔ سولینز ائیرکنڈیشنڈ یا ہودار دفاتر میں بیٹھ کر مزے کرتے ہیں جبکہ ڈیفنس فورسز سرحدوں کی حفاظت, اندرونی و بیرونی چیلینجز سے نمٹنا قدرتی آفات میں امدادی سرگرمیاں , غرض ہر جگہ ڈیفینس فورسز ہراول دستہ کے طور پر ہر وقت تیار رہتی ہیں۔ کیا سول ملازمین پر ملک و ملت کا کوئ حق نہیں ہے؟
ملازمین کو جس پالیسی کے مطابق بھرتی کرتے ہیں اسی کے تحت ریٹائر کیا جائے
Well done, achay tareqee say explaine kar rahay hein.
Civil be 24 hours duty keray wo be benefit Basil keray
HAKOOMAT AGER PENSION KE MAAMLAY MEIN CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES AUR ARMED FORCES KE EMPLOYEES MEIN KOI TAFREEQ KERTI HE DISCRIMINATION KERTI HE TO CIVIL EMPLOYEES KO HIGH COURT AUR SUPREME COURT KA DARWAZA KHATKHATANA CHAHIYE
Army ko apny logon KO support Karna chahye.lootmar kar K aur le gai ,bhugtan ghareebon KO per raha he.
Good
Fouj or bearucracy ki ayashi khatam kiye bagair is mulk ka kuch nahi ho sakta
Janab ye ayashi ap ko Mubarak ho. Foji ki konsi ayashi ha. 24 hours mulazim hen. Mazy civil ma hen. Na qanoon lagoo hota ha na promotion pa asar parta ha. Na disciplinary action hota ha.
Rtired admi ko dobara govt job kaisy mil jati hy jab k job k liye age limit hoti hy is par zaror malomat dein
Explanation was very clear
Good information i salut both of u
No.check.&balance..Ham.sab.azaad.hein😂
Pension pey 1 ya 2% text ke tajwez darust ha
Ziada se ziada pension 5 lakh honi chahyay.
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Well conversation
Sir in case of multiple pension either from Army or Civil, there should be limit of both pensions ie if a person is drawing his Ist pension of Rs 45000 and after that that from 2nd pension he is drawing Rs 20000 his total amount of pension is Rs 65000 which is too meagre to meet his expenses,, there fore,, there must be a limit of by multiplying both the pensions other wise it would be unjustified for old pensioners
New law cannot be applied to old pensioners .They will go to higher courts if they are unlawfully dealt with.
bahoot zaberdust batan
Must buy Hyro dams (Tarbella. /Mangla) from proposed pension fund. Make them share holders.
Jo seat pe AA gaya zameer kho gya it's truth
Well said . Jazakah Allah . The old system of passion is based on justice it should continue till the establishment of social welfare system in the country . Every citizen above the age of 60 year be given pension . In canada every citizen above 65 years is given pension. The Canadian government can do it from tax collected amount why pakistan government can not? Please ask the policy makers to do justice. with every citizen
V.good
Bhai simple question return the time, years of service to retired people and stop pension, about military pensioners they also put life at danger for the nation, in last few years a new type of jhmore has born, who have zero contribution to the county but criticising every thing, when less then 20% are listed tax payers then only those 20% should be allowed to vote, 80% non productive no tax payer should not be allowed to vote nor their opinion hold any importance and this is very democratic, democracy does not move on voting and emotional speeches, democracy also need tax collection to run the country
جب کشمیر بیچ دیا تو فوج کی بھی ضرورت نہیں رہتی۔۔۔
Pakistan hai yeh bhai ❤
سار ایک سوال کا جواب دیں کہ کسی فرد کی وفات کے بعد اس کی بیٹی دو پینشن لے سکتی ہے اگر بندے نے 2 نوکری کی اور ایک سول اور ایک ارمی کی اس کی بیٹی کو ملٹی پل پینشن لینے کی اجازت ہے کہ نہیں اس سے پہلے یعنی پینشن اصلات سے پہلے رول کیا کہتا ہے
Another legal point is that when a soldier is enrolled in the Army ,he enters into a contract with tge State .On fulfilling the contractual obligations, he gets retirement. The new pensions schemes can't be applied to them retrospectively.The old soldiers served according to the laws in force then.The new polices with regard to soldiers 's pensions cannot be applied to old soldiers whose pensions are already too small ,according to old rates of pensions. The higher Court will strike down such unlawful acts.
Video contents are good as knowledge.pension more then 01 lakh must be emposed tax
اک فوجی کی تنخواہ اگر دیکھیں تو بعض سول محکموں سے بہت کم ہے اسکے علاوہ ایک فوجی سیاچن گلئیر گلییشئیر میں 2 سال ڈیوٹی سرانجام پاتا ہے اور سال میں ایک بار گھر چھٹی آتا ہے۔ اور بعض محکموں میں لوگ اپنے ضلعے میں نوکری کررہے ہوتے ہیں جیسا کہ اپنا گھر مگر اس کے باوجود بھی غیر حاضرباش رہتا ہے۔ ایک فوجی اور ایک سول کی نوکری میں زمیں آسمان کا فرق ہوتاق ہے یہ کیسے فوجی پنشن ختم کرنے کا کہ رہے ہیں۔
Pakistani national who reside in Pakistan should create an association by the name "Citizen Association of Pakistan" to protest and protect their rights to live. The association should file a case of "Merciless Economic Genocide of Pakistani People by their government" by the professional politicians, state machinery and the government.
That is unIslamic. Only Allah is responsible.
Nobody knows the Rule position. As per Federa pension Rules a person who is re appointed after retirement can draw salary but the pension and salary shall not be more than his last pay drawn.but this rule is not being implemented.
jinko ghar men koi nae pochta wo bhi program krte hen.subhanallah
Pensions up to 100,000 should be taxed at a rate of 2%.
Sir G,Restoration of pension men bhi Amendment hogai hai ,pehlay comuted portion per bhi increases lagtay thay leken ab Sirf retirement ke waqt jo portion comute hota tha sirf wohi Ammount restore hoga.is per bat karen please.
Draft notification also include calculation of pension on average pay of last 24 months, pl go through the draft before misleading the public
aap dono teek kih rahin hin insaf and Amal ki zarorat hi faoj qurbane daita hi Kiya baqe adary rizik nahi layta police to daik qurbane daita hi Jo state ka mulazim hi aapni duty kartay waqt mowt bicha nahi Sara nizam kharab hi nafose shro karo Jo pakistan Mai paiada HOTA hi o 15 sal state ki baghair ojrat k nokare Karin bad Mai os ko Marat din pir ho sakta hi k Pakistan qarzon sai chot milin warna hum gholam hin aur rahin gin thanks
Well done 👍
Had u gone through draft notification by MoF , it already included that option to draw either pay or pension would b applicable to employees after age of 60 yrs, so no question of negotiations, lack of info and preparation, just wastage of time for 20 minutes , waqar sb seems more logical as compared to Mehtab sb, so called economist and budgetry expert
Agar koi govt job se resign kar de tu osko dobara govt job nahi milti in k liye alag se qanon hy dobara job bhi mil jati hy aur pesion k rights bhi j
Kia baseline per old pensioners ki pension budget ma azay zulam nhi nhi hy ma jab 2008 ma retd howa tu 6000 pension thi aj be bjli ka bill zaida hy pension kam hy
Search the mountain for gold and don't percue poor pensioners
Mil man always retired after tight serive of 18 years service in majority and their age at retire about 36-38 years. After what he doment
Agree
Good welldone
Allah hi maalik hai is mulk ka
all pension give to powerful institutions.
No they should give you pension for driving motorcycles on the wrong side of the roads and throwing shopping bags with dirty flooding streets where we just make a whole and leak gutters, for that every new born citizen should get 500 rs per month 😅
Fauji 24 ghanty ka mulazim hay jabkeh civil 6 ghanty ka es tarah fauji den raat ka naukar hay
QABBAR ME RISHWAT .LAZMI NIKLY GEE 😢😢😢😢
I think that one army personal lower staf. Equal to grade 14 retired. at the age of 15or18year and after retired they aginjoind. any other govt. Department and retired.after 60year and. Then his. both pension will not more than civilian pensioner rather. It will be less. Army junior. officials always remain in economic problems weather they ore. In service or pensioners
جنرل ضیاء نے سول سروس میں بغیر سی ایس ایس دس فیصد کوٹہ مورر کردیا تھا اور فوجی افسران ریٹائرمنٹ لیکر سول سروس میں آجاتے ہیں حالانکہ ریٹائرمنٹ کی بجائے ان کی سروس دوسری سروس کے ساتھ شمار کی جائے جس طرح سول ملازم ایک محکمے سے دوسرے محکمے میں نئی۔جاب لیتا ہے
Bilkul sahih keh rahay hein.
Plz look eibi pension. All eibi pension eat power people in government. Who will if pension grabbed. Y these docit or chsaor like zardar and sharig families
Jiss mosibat me army valoon ne pakistan ko punchaya haa.iss sa nikalna impossibil haa.koi bi hakomat aye.90%badget army valoon ka haa.ye bahot ziyada haa.koi qanoon aur ayeen baqi nahi raha.iss mulak me.
Bilkul pension pe tax hona chahiay aur subki exemptions khutam karein. Meherbani karein quoam ke haal pe. Awam ki chekhein nikalwanay walon ka bhi hisaab kitaab hona chahiay.
Awam 20% sey be come tax payer hain 😅 batein suno lagtaa hai jesay apan zawaar bech ke Awam sarkari mulazim ko pension detay hain 😅 cricket players tu sarkari mulazim nahi hain na, Awam mein sey hain aur performance dekh lo Jo chaan charhae hain 😅
پنشن تو ساری دنیا میں ملتی ھے صرف پاکستان میں پنشن سے تکلیف ھے حکومت کو پنشن کی بچت کا ایک طریقہ ھے کہ جو پنشنرز ھو جائے تو اس کو خاندان سمیت چاغی کے سرنگ میں لے جا کے بٹن دبایا جائے تو ساری پنشن کی بچت ھو جائے گی حکومت کو.
Theek he na bhai inspector ne apni zindagi me logo ko bhi thana ma tang kiya hoga ab margaya to ulad hi bhugte gi
Nice
Apny bacho ko army mein karway
Civil 60 saal age salary enjoy krty.....aur unki basic b higher hoti
So, monthly pension zyada banti ...
Jb k army me km hoti
Civil 40 saal service ker k 60 saal per retire hota hy aur tum 15 ya 18 saal ker k retire ho jaty ho .Aur apni sahulyaat per b nazar dalo
@Askonsi sahulat hehfaqHussain-td8ki
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Civilian servants 8 hours duty kartay hain JB k army personal 24 hrs duty kartay hain aur dore draz mushkil tareen maqam duty kartay hain aur har jagah family bhee sath nhi rakh saktay aur bhee bahut faraq hain yeh civilian 8 hrs k bahad apnay ghar chalay jatay hain aur shops chalatay hain.is liay army compair nhi ho sakta.
Foujioun ney 24 hours duty key key KOUN sa Lan putt leyea hea.
East Pakistan, siacheen, Lakh ,angoor adda Tum ney dushmano ko dea deeya.
DHA, marriage halls, petrol pumps, shopping centre chla ker pension, 24 hours duty rehash muft ,Khana muft. Medical muft,travelling free aour Kia mantea hou.
سر برائے مھربانی فوجی نوکری اور سولین نوکری میں زمین آسمان کافرق ھے
Sab logon KO foje sy bohat ziada takleef he .
Nalaiq finance minister tumhain establishment key lia rakha hey acha pension package establishment key lia banao
Gilani sahib,35 _40 jawanon ke pension 1 judge ke barabar hai.
2005 say pehly retired hony wally ki pention 16000 hy jo muzdoor say bhi kum hay
The Army is a sacred institution which defends the country.When you feed a horse well it will give you a good ride.They sacrifice their lives for the country.They dye young .Who will look after their families: the daughters and sons.Every country give some welfare concessions to their soldiers.If a soldier sitting in Sia chin glacier, is worried about monetary problems, how he will fight.Our country is surrounded by enemies and hostile forces. If a soldier retires at the age of 32 years getting a meagre pension and is employed in another Govt job.He will get a meagre amount from the 2nd pension .Add both the pensions,the amount again will be a small one.They should be encouraged and in high morale to fight well.Their job is the toughest. The perks and privilege of the ministers,MNAs/MPAs should be minimized. The grant given to other support programs should be minimized where corruption is in full swing.Save Army and save Pak.
مجھے بڑی خوشی ہوئی پنشن پر اتنا اچھا پروگرام سن کر لیکن تشنگی برقرار ہے۔اس کی وجہ شاید معلومات کی کمی یا پھر ڈر کر شیئر نہیں کی گئی۔
Jab fouj itnay saray idaray chalati hay like fouji foundation to us ki income say pension keon nahi deti