This is a reminder of why you have to pick your friends wisely. I don’t know who was the worst between the two of them, but if they weren’t together, maybe lives could have been saved.
At this exact moment I'm going through this with my daughter and she's 27. She is an excellent student and person but there's just one friend of hers who was toxic AF
@@peggyjones9080 only one as you should be proud and impressed that in 27 years and the countless people a person meets and be able to say that is well unheard of and seems kinda of toxic in its own way to harp on her about
@@peggyjones9080 oh that's such a painful position to be in, I can't even imagine. I can only pray she's able to see things for herself and learns any lesson she needs to without any escalation. I really wish you the very best 🤞🏻
"Mid 1900s" Wow that made me feel old. These 2 were horrible people. I have seen others cover this story but your delivery and content were excellent. It's so awful how long it took them to get caught. I feel terrible for all the families ruined by these monsters.
Good point. The more I watch true crime videos the more I wonder about this. I watch the police interrogations on the JCS psychology channel and so many of suspects don’t ask for lawyers so it makes me wonder if they just like to boast about their crimes or if they are just that stupid.
Sometimes I think they're relieved to tell someone and try to get it off the conscious,at least at that moment but probably they regret speaking to the police after learning they would stood a good chance of at least not being arrested right then, but it's a lot of their first contact with police maybe and they have no clue about their rights, even if they're advised of em before the interview they seem to not pick up on the part about not having to cooperate,it's really something to see, unbelievable
In many cases, have you ever seen 3 men one hammer. or the similer case of the two friends who copycat killed.? An interesting watch..sickening .is an understatement!!
My best friend and I were born next door in 1956, same kinder garden, primary and senior school, left home and got an apartment together, went to each other’s wedding etc….still best friends to this day…….and never laid a finger to hurt anyone in our lives……how bizarre!!
I will never get over the fact that your voice sounds so much like the character in Dishonored, and thus to me it is very soothing, it's like feeling safe and comfortable at home.
Totally understand your only half expecting it to be Florida, because one would have just automatically first assumed California then Florida with the murdering meth freaks and all, and in this case, one would have been correct, lol.
It's one of those cases where you think, "perhaps if these two never met..." Wesley sounds like he would have been an a-hole regardless, maybe Loren may have just gotten over his bit of rebellion like so many. I recognise that getting into "what if" is on the path where madness lies😕
@@soxpeewee yeah, I know what you mean. In the same position, I would be traumatized and running to the police ASAP! I wouldn't be tagging along with the guy....😕 At the beginning and the way he just layed it out for the police, I got thinking that, perhaps with good friends and better influences, he may have been a bit strange, but not enough to have done these horrendous things on his own. Then again, as I said originally, getting stuck in thinking "what if?" can drive you to a breakdown. Unfortunately, history shows, there was no great morality in him and countless people have been deeply hurt and had their lives made so difficult because of the BOTH of them.🤷🏻♀️
@@soxpeewee I certainly see your point. If a friend of mine did anything similar in front of me, I'd be absolutely traumatized and running to the police. I certainly wouldn't hang around for more!😬😕
You/your channel always have videos/crimes that I've never heard of (and I watch waaaay too much true crime videos and can hardly find any that I HAVEN'T heard before) and I really love that!! Keep up the awesome work 😁
I honestly think this is a rare situation of two completely evil people who happen to become best friends. Although I do put some thought into the fact that Lorens the one who spilled the beans, almost like he did have some sort of a conscious at least when it came to that particular girl. But I do think 70+ is largely exagerated.
Thank you for this upload never heard of this case . I could listen to you all day , such a calming voice while telling horrific true stories appreciate all you do 👍👍👍👍👍🙈🙊🙉💕💕💕💕💕
10 seconds in & I'm already sickened by what you told us James "killing babies/children. It truly fascinates me when two "psychopaths" come together. The "Wests" & too many like them. Repulsive monsters. Whew, another hard story to watch & listen to. RIP Angel's 🕊🦋🌹 Another great job telling this horrific story. Always with pure perfection my friend. 👍🏻❤ I literally gasped when you said "1,000 bones of babies/children & others, smh.🤦♀️💔 God bless 👑🙏🏻🕊💝
Hey James, Chevelle wheeler went to Franklin High School that was my high school in Stockton California the boys went to Linden High School they did not go to high school together and they were much older than her
@Twisted Minds . James, before I start, let me say how much I love watching your video's. Not to long, not to short, a nice average time. Well spoken, easy to understand and you go into great detail. (Unless is really gory stuff involving s.a. or against children). My one and only complaint is now and again you do cases that others have done on UA-cam. Excuse the pun but some of these more famous one's have been covered to death. I prefer it when you do the more uncommon, lesser known cases that no one has really done. To me, thats what makes your channel stand head and shoulders above almost all others. Please don't fall into the same old trap that others have and cover all the well known cases.
Thanks so much for this good video of two monsters who killed just for the pleasure of doing it... so sad for all those innocent victims and their loved ones 🙏🙏🙏
The moment the heat gets turned up , these bullies crack and turned on each other . On the toughness scale they equal to piss weak as far as Loren is concerned he didn't make it past the 1St interview before cracking and giving it up .
Another reason why it is so important for parents to know who is hanging out with their child, talk to other parents, get involved in what your kids are doing, pay attention, ask your kids questions and talk to them, But most of all love and protect them for Children of today ARE our Future
I sniffed speed in college thinking it was the other sniffable "fun" in the 90's. Oh my, I can see how people can lose their minds with it. Don't worry folks, I design aircraft landing gear these days. 😁
I can top that ! I live near HANFORD NUCLEAR SITE & Guess What ! About 70% of the people working on it were HIGH AS HELL on Cocaine. Talk about knowing enough to be Terrified ! No Joke I was there !
I watched a doc about two clowns. Imo, they exaggerated about how many people they claimed to of murdered. Thank you for your upload. Much appreciated. 🥰
I REALLY don’t understand why someone could like the feeling of killing innocent people. It’s crazy to me. Why would you want to just end someone’s life for no other reason than “because they could”. People like that need to be locked up for life with no chance of release.
Please... Loren was not inocent at all, Wesley was clearly the dominant one and Loren was like his lackey or yes-man, he probably enjoyed it as much as his friend did. He blabed because he got caught and pinned all blame on Wesley on an effort to get a better deal, and he did... Even if they needed to be caught and condemned for their crimes and it was only possible thanks to Loren blabbing, throwing someone who is your friend under the bus to save your own ass... It rubbs me the wrong way...
Drugs and alcohol are a big factor in a lot of crimes. In terms of violent crime, I wish more suspects were tested, so we could measure the relationship more accurately. I think a lot of why testing isn’t more routine is that police are trying to build a strong case to convict. Proof of intoxication is used by defense lawyers, as a mitigating factor.
Alcohol IS a fucking drug!! How many times do I have to tell people this shit?? The phrase "drugs and alcohol" is factually incorrect, you say "drugs including alcohol"
A company I worked for built the new addition on Susanville state prison and I checked out one of the cells while doing a material delivery, I would not want to reside there for any length of time. I will say the view up there is spectacular with the mountains to the west.
I really love true crime stories, and I think you do a great job of presenting the cases and giving as many details as possible. Thank you so much for what you do. I am just wondering, if Wesley will ever be executed for his horrific crimes? Or will he end up getting his sentence commuted to life?
To be honest, imprisonment stops being a punishment when they get so used to it that they actually prefer being in jail than in the "free world". At least there they get three hots and a cot!! 🍲🍱🍝🛏
u can watch their interrogations, a very old story for ppl into this stuff like myself but i always enjoy different versions cuz.... well i guess iam sic in the head or so iam told
Kinda like Irish Mike without the accent or sense of humor, but the same black velvet background. Pretty good visuals, even though they must be commercially available. Stock videos. Except for the police interviews. Well written.
A "census designated" area? I've never heard anyone bring that up in a documentary before. But, nowadays there are more census undesignated areas than ever before. Interesting point of view...
A census designated place is a zone of the United States and I guess certain other countries that has a permanent population but isn't "incorporated", that is, they lack municipal governments, only falling under the jurisdiction of the federal government and the government of whatever state they happen to be in.
Meth does not make them kill people. The people who blame alcohol or drugs for what they have done, are ridiculous. I have done meth a few times and was extremely drunk many times. It never crossed my mind to harm anyone or to end children's lives etc. They should have gotten the death penalty.
Exactly man. Opioids, alcohol and phenibut were my drugs of choice but I also used meth over a handful of times throughout my life and even on some heavy tweaking sprees I never thought about harming anyone physically. People will blame guns, drugs and video games til the end of time sadly, people think correlation and causation are the same thing. During my addiction I still worked everyday, earned 30 bucks an hour, took care of my family and my animals before myself and never stole or lied to get my way. The stigma is totally ridiculous, drugs including alcohol only bring out aggression and problems in people who were already prone to that.
Exactly. I’m not saying it harmless but a shit person is going to be a shit person. Most of these people that are making negative comments about it have never touched it in their lives. Again I know it can negative effects on your health but it wasn’t the dope that made these guys do what they did
Loren was hanging with the so called "killer" for many years as his friend committed multiple murders, yet he claims that he was an innocent bystander. After murder # 1 you would either go to the police, or run far away from this person. He did neither. He's a principal participant in all of the murders in which he was in attendance. Given the pattern, he's far beyond an "accessory". He's equally culpable.
Just comes to show if you notice two kids being bullies and still hanging around each other as they grew You would think the authorities would have a better understanding with over 1000 people missing and a few complaints from survivors. How is it that evil always outsmarts intelligence 😳 Must be just plain laziness Australia 💕Christina
At 00:09 my first split second thought about the guy on the right was "Ron Jeremy?" And I have to state a thought I've had several times about situations such as in this video. Think of how true the saying of "birds of feather flock together" tends to be. Gays, feminist, racists, religious people, drug abusers, etc seem to naturally condense and pool into a group of like minded associates. It's got to happen with murderers more than we realize as well. You could argue that they don't because they don't trust one another to not murder them while distracted but reread the other group examples I gave and you will see the not trusting one another is rampant in all those groups as well. But they still congregated.
It is insaaaaaaane to me that anybody would be sat with the police and not ask for a lawyer before saying anything, but especially if you’re guilty?? You know you did it??? Baffling
The on screen text calling San Joaquin County "San Wa-keen County" is funny to me. I'm sure it's just spelled phonetically so the narrator pronounces it correctly but it's goofy that it's in the video.
This is a reminder of why you have to pick your friends wisely. I don’t know who was the worst between the two of them, but if they weren’t together, maybe lives could have been saved.
that is true
At this exact moment I'm going through this with my daughter and she's 27. She is an excellent student and person but there's just one friend of hers who was toxic AF
@@peggyjones9080 only one as you should be proud and impressed that in 27 years and the countless people a person meets and be able to say that is well unheard of and seems kinda of toxic in its own way to harp on her about
I was thinking a similar way - but of course, I can never just get to the point and put things succinctly!
@@peggyjones9080 oh that's such a painful position to be in, I can't even imagine. I can only pray she's able to see things for herself and learns any lesson she needs to without any escalation. I really wish you the very best 🤞🏻
"Mid 1900s"
Wow that made me feel old.
These 2 were horrible people. I have seen others cover this story but your delivery and content were excellent. It's so awful how long it took them to get caught. I feel terrible for all the families ruined by these monsters.
Yea I know right. I had to think for a sec because the way he said it made me feel like it was a really long time ago but no just 1950s 😮💨
Did he think he'd get a better deal by admitting to being at 25 murders and covering them up? Luckily he wasn't smart enough to say "lawyer please."
Good point. The more I watch true crime videos the more I wonder about this. I watch the police interrogations on the JCS psychology channel and so many of suspects don’t ask for lawyers so it makes me wonder if they just like to boast about their crimes or if they are just that stupid.
@@alloralou4722 or if they were beat and coerced into fake confession.
It has, without a doubt, happened on many documented and undocumented times. .
Sometimes I think they're relieved to tell someone and try to get it off the conscious,at least at that moment but probably they regret speaking to the police after learning they would stood a good chance of at least not being arrested right then, but it's a lot of their first contact with police maybe and they have no clue about their rights, even if they're advised of em before the interview they seem to not pick up on the part about not having to cooperate,it's really something to see, unbelievable
@@alloralou4722 these people typically believe they are smarter then everyone.
It would be to easy to do something as simple.
They speak from ego thinking that whatever they say will be believed.
What are the odds of childhood friends growing up to become a deadly duo.
50/50...…either they do or they don't!!!
Look up " Ryan Dukes & Bo Duke slay Georgia teacher ".
In many cases, have you ever seen 3 men one hammer. or the similer case of the two friends who copycat killed.? An interesting watch..sickening .is an understatement!!
@@sharonletchford9375 those kids with the hammer they killed like 17 people before they were caught, sick fucks
@@indianastones6032 🤦🏼♂
With a title like that, I couldn't resist.
Me too
Same
Ditto.
I just couldn't stand the non stop talking 🤦🏻♀️
😂
How has this story not getting the attention of lesser serial killers? We’ve heard about Manson, Bundy, Dahmer a million times
Often if they plead guilty and no trial except sentencing it just never caught the national news attention for long.
I know right, never heard of these
To keep the public from knowing the truth & EVERY OTHER REASON IN BETWEEN
Thank you for always having captions available on your videos!
First time watching this channel: “thanks for welcoming me to Twisted Minds”
Every time since: “thanks for welcoming me back to Twisted Minds”
My best friend and I were born next door in 1956, same kinder garden, primary and senior school, left home and got an apartment together, went to each other’s wedding etc….still best friends to this day…….and never laid a finger to hurt anyone in our lives……how bizarre!!
Please tell me life gets easier. I'm 24 and this shit sucks.
Not bizarre, most people aren't killers.
Not bizarre, most people aren't killers.
And that's why nobody will remember you.
@@Devil914 I’m 19 but from what I heard it only gets worse good luck take some risks life’s too short
"This time, they got fully invested in doing drugs."
Good to know they were serious about their career paths.
Best comment !!!! 😆
This is crazy! I can't believe this is my first time hearing this story
You and mrballen need to do a story together. You both narrate so well.
Avid MrBallen watcher here
@@UA-camFan559 same
Yeah, they are both really good. Clear and concise and easy to follow.
Sick & twisted people. Too many of them walk amongst us.
@@stationorange Nah. If they accept Jesus Christ into their hearts they'll be forgiven and spend eternity in Heaven.
So true. A truly sick and evil world.
@@stationorange Anyone can believe anything if they try hard enough. I've seen the people at Trump rallies and even talked to them online
@@stationorange that’s not what your god taught bud
@@sanders555 how’s Brandon doing for you there bud? You’re right. Some people even believe Brandon won.
I'm wondering if they were able to do DNA tests of the bones and find closure for so many families whose loved ones were missing
Not back in the 80s there was no DNA
@@carolevans5285 There has always been dna...
I will never get over the fact that your voice sounds so much like the character in Dishonored, and thus to me it is very soothing, it's like feeling safe and comfortable at home.
Half expected it to be Florida when I saw “meth” and “serial killer” together
True! I did some real good meth in Florida. If you are into mainlining meth and violence Florida is the place to be !
@@neptunevibe these days commie California is better for both
I suspected Albuquerque, NM
@@neptunevibe 🤣
Totally understand your only half expecting it to be Florida, because one would have just automatically first assumed California then Florida with the murdering meth freaks and all, and in this case, one would have been correct, lol.
I've never heard of these two, this is so interesting. Wow
@Twisted Minds Hi, James. Excellent episode! You've really stepped up the quality of your narration. I'm so proud of you! Thanks so much. 😀
It's one of those cases where you think, "perhaps if these two never met..." Wesley sounds like he would have been an a-hole regardless, maybe Loren may have just gotten over his bit of rebellion like so many. I recognise that getting into "what if" is on the path where madness lies😕
It's still interesting to think about
Like minds attract like like minds so .
I don't think Lauren was the least but innocent. I think he would have been a murderer without Wesley.
@@soxpeewee yeah, I know what you mean. In the same position, I would be traumatized and running to the police ASAP! I wouldn't be tagging along with the guy....😕 At the beginning and the way he just layed it out for the police, I got thinking that, perhaps with good friends and better influences, he may have been a bit strange, but not enough to have done these horrendous things on his own. Then again, as I said originally, getting stuck in thinking "what if?" can drive you to a breakdown. Unfortunately, history shows, there was no great morality in him and countless people have been deeply hurt and had their lives made so difficult because of the BOTH of them.🤷🏻♀️
@@soxpeewee I certainly see your point. If a friend of mine did anything similar in front of me, I'd be absolutely traumatized and running to the police. I certainly wouldn't hang around for more!😬😕
You/your channel always have videos/crimes that I've never heard of (and I watch waaaay too much true crime videos and can hardly find any that I HAVEN'T heard before) and I really love that!! Keep up the awesome work 😁
You need to get those interrogations for us to see!
Man. I love your narration. 💪 Always nice when your videos come up!
Things can only go downhill when you move to Stockton
Loving all the uploads!
Remember phones , that hung on walls or sat on tables ?
And had actual buttons ?
No
I honestly think this is a rare situation of two completely evil people who happen to become best friends. Although I do put some thought into the fact that Lorens the one who spilled the beans, almost like he did have some sort of a conscious at least when it came to that particular girl. But I do think 70+ is largely exagerated.
He didn’t tell because he had a conscious. He told because he was jealous the other guy got out of jail earlier than him
Probably a made a deal in hopes for less time.
I think you mean conscience, not conscious. JS
@@Chelle8847 correct :)
You think this is rare? That is concerning. You must have lived a sheltered life.
Thank you for this upload never heard of this case . I could listen to you all day , such a calming voice while telling horrific true stories appreciate all you do 👍👍👍👍👍🙈🙊🙉💕💕💕💕💕
10 seconds in & I'm already sickened by what you told us James "killing babies/children. It truly fascinates me when two "psychopaths" come together. The "Wests" & too many like them. Repulsive monsters. Whew, another hard story to watch & listen to.
RIP Angel's 🕊🦋🌹
Another great job telling this horrific story. Always with pure perfection my friend. 👍🏻❤
I literally gasped when you said "1,000 bones of babies/children & others, smh.🤦♀️💔
God bless 👑🙏🏻🕊💝
Thats about 5-6 kids.
@@napoleonbonerfart278 That's too much, it's horrible. I felt sick with those monsters. God bless 👑🙏🏻🕊🤬
Thank you for your stories , ❤🎉
Do drugs make people stupid OR do stupid people do drugs. I'm just asking!
Hey James, Chevelle wheeler went to Franklin High School that was my high school in Stockton California the boys went to Linden High School they did not go to high school together and they were much older than her
when i heard stockton california i got chills!!! currently there’s a serial killer on the loose, only being 18 i feel so scared.
Really ? How many people has he murdered so far ?
He got caught today dude
You just be finding the most crazy ass killers in the world we loving it
@Twisted Minds . James, before I start, let me say how much I love watching your video's. Not to long, not to short, a nice average time. Well spoken, easy to understand and you go into great detail. (Unless is really gory stuff involving s.a. or against children). My one and only complaint is now and again you do cases that others have done on UA-cam. Excuse the pun but some of these more famous one's have been covered to death. I prefer it when you do the more uncommon, lesser known cases that no one has really done. To me, thats what makes your channel stand head and shoulders above almost all others. Please don't fall into the same old trap that others have and cover all the well known cases.
Meth addiction is hell on Earth.
great stories man!!!!!!
Thanks so much for this good video of two monsters who killed just for the pleasure of doing it... so sad for all those innocent victims and their loved ones 🙏🙏🙏
Look forward to listening to this. Thank you.
The moment the heat gets turned up , these bullies crack and turned on each other . On the toughness scale they equal to piss weak as far as Loren is concerned he didn't make it past the 1St interview before cracking and giving it up .
Another reason why it is so important for parents to know who is hanging out with their child, talk to other parents, get involved in what your kids are doing, pay attention, ask your kids questions and talk to them, But most of all love and protect them for Children of today ARE our Future
YES
She wasn't a kid. She was 25.
Never thought I'd see that before, but what an awful person. Great video!
Very interesting story.. Nice work on Covering this!! 👍🏻👍🏻
I sniffed speed in college thinking it was the other sniffable "fun" in the 90's. Oh my, I can see how people can lose their minds with it. Don't worry folks, I design aircraft landing gear these days. 😁
When you're flying that high, better make damn sure you've got perfectly designed landing gear lol
@@lt.aldoraine9161 that's the illusion one typically gets from sitting in Their parents huffing aircraft model glue
I can top that ! I live near HANFORD NUCLEAR SITE & Guess What ! About 70% of the people working on it were HIGH AS HELL on Cocaine. Talk about knowing enough to be Terrified ! No Joke I was there !
Also hate flying, lol
I watched a doc about two clowns. Imo, they exaggerated about how many people they claimed to of murdered. Thank you for your upload. Much appreciated. 🥰
Supposedly the killed at least 25 people which is insane
they basically confirmed they were not lying when they dug up the mass grave.
Óla Kepa Arrizzabalaga 😅.
Nice video, haunting stuff as always.
Love your work mate. Thku
What happened to the interrogation? That was my main reason for clicking on the video.
I REALLY don’t understand why someone could like the feeling of killing innocent people. It’s crazy to me. Why would you want to just end someone’s life for no other reason than “because they could”. People like that need to be locked up for life with no chance of release.
Please... Loren was not inocent at all, Wesley was clearly the dominant one and Loren was like his lackey or yes-man, he probably enjoyed it as much as his friend did. He blabed because he got caught and pinned all blame on Wesley on an effort to get a better deal, and he did...
Even if they needed to be caught and condemned for their crimes and it was only possible thanks to Loren blabbing, throwing someone who is your friend under the bus to save your own ass... It rubbs me the wrong way...
Watched this video in the middle of the night and a bit stoned and i thought for a while i was watching "Marty Jannety the missing years"🤣🤣🤣
Drugs and alcohol are a big factor in a lot of crimes. In terms of violent crime, I wish more suspects were tested, so we could measure the relationship more accurately. I think a lot of why testing isn’t more routine is that police are trying to build a strong case to convict. Proof of intoxication is used by defense lawyers, as a mitigating factor.
Alcohol IS a fucking drug!! How many times do I have to tell people this shit?? The phrase "drugs and alcohol" is factually incorrect, you say "drugs including alcohol"
But still, it's no excuse to prolong the failure that is the War on Drugs!
A company I worked for built the new addition on Susanville state prison and I checked out one of the cells while doing a material delivery, I would not want to reside there for any length of time. I will say the view up there is spectacular with the mountains to the west.
Serial killer and meth in the same title is like rubber necking on UA-cam, it's probably ugly but you can't resist watching.
Such an interesting case, yet horrifying how these people exist in the world, great narration.
Plenty of horrifying people all around you. Don't be so naive.
Glad twisted minds is back up
Oh Im glad you are back
I really love true crime stories, and I think you do a great job of presenting the cases and giving as many details as possible. Thank you so much for what you do. I am just wondering, if Wesley will ever be executed for his horrific crimes? Or will he end up getting his sentence commuted to life?
To be honest, imprisonment stops being a punishment when they get so used to it that they actually prefer being in jail than in the "free world". At least there they get three hots and a cot!! 🍲🍱🍝🛏
YOU’RE BACK I WAS SO SAD WHEN U GOT TERMINATED
Loren: "My best friend just murdered someone in front of me. Oh well, I guess I'll stick around." Seriously, why didn't he run for the hills?
Wow the year 70 - 80 was full of duo serial killer, how mad is that
Great video. Great narration. Not too long and very concise. I just randomly stumbled across this today. I’m gonna sub! Great job
Hey man could u cover the Australian case of Hannah Clarke
u can watch their interrogations, a very old story for ppl into this stuff like myself but i always enjoy different versions cuz.... well i guess iam sic in the head or so iam told
I feel like growing up as a guy with the name Lauren, you're bound to wind up screwed up as an adult :)
It's Loren not Lauren. Lorne Greene never had a problem with it
Sounds about right, they grew up in Linden & Stockton.
At least Loren did everyone a favor in the end.
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Wish you all would come back. God bless🙏
This would make an excellent movie!!
bullyies always pick on smaller, weeker people!
Good to see you again James
I lived miles from Linden during that time. Thank God my mom never crossed their path.
Kinda like Irish Mike without the accent or sense of humor, but the same black velvet background. Pretty good visuals, even though they must be commercially available. Stock videos. Except for the police interviews. Well written.
The snitching in the story is crazy
I saw the Thumbnail in my notification and thought for the slightest second that JCS had uploaded 🙁
A "census designated" area? I've never heard anyone bring that up in a documentary before. But, nowadays there are more census undesignated areas than ever before. Interesting point of view...
A census designated place is a zone of the United States and I guess certain other countries that has a permanent population but isn't "incorporated", that is, they lack municipal governments, only falling under the jurisdiction of the federal government and the government of whatever state they happen to be in.
Glad your back
it's crazy how many people are out there like this
when did the channel come back?
You disappeared for months and are going hard on uploads now, don't disappear again!
Really enjoy you channel and content , thank you
Meth does not make them kill people. The people who blame alcohol or drugs for what they have done, are ridiculous. I have done meth a few times and was extremely drunk many times. It never crossed my mind to harm anyone or to end children's lives etc. They should have gotten the death penalty.
Exactly man. Opioids, alcohol and phenibut were my drugs of choice but I also used meth over a handful of times throughout my life and even on some heavy tweaking sprees I never thought about harming anyone physically. People will blame guns, drugs and video games til the end of time sadly, people think correlation and causation are the same thing. During my addiction I still worked everyday, earned 30 bucks an hour, took care of my family and my animals before myself and never stole or lied to get my way. The stigma is totally ridiculous, drugs including alcohol only bring out aggression and problems in people who were already prone to that.
@@mongogojjo5944 spot on. I'm glad you made it out of your addictions, though. I'm still struggling with alcohol. Cheers from Germany
Exactly. I’m not saying it harmless but a shit person is going to be a shit person. Most of these people that are making negative comments about it have never touched it in their lives. Again I know it can negative effects on your health but it wasn’t the dope that made these guys do what they did
Love your work mate 🇦🇺
Loren was hanging with the so called "killer" for many years as his friend committed multiple murders, yet he claims that he was an innocent bystander. After murder # 1 you would either go to the police, or run far away from this person. He did neither.
He's a principal participant in all of the murders in which he was in attendance.
Given the pattern, he's far beyond an "accessory". He's equally culpable.
My family moved to linden in 88.....thought we were moving to a quiet little farming town. Wes was a psycho. May the victims rest in peace
Awesome video
Thank u sir , im never dissatisfied
Disappointed
You also put the comma in the wrong place, at this point you should just delete the comment lolol
@@ShlanGaming you live a sad life if you go into comment sections lookin for things to point out. Sorry you feel that way! Have a great day mate.
How do you mess up on something that trivial, you live an even sadder life mate 🤡
Thank you Twisted Minds! Evil ☆
Oh wow! The news anchor is Rich Ibarra from KCRA Channel 3 news! Crazy😳 He’s retired now I think.
What's the chance of two childhood friends, living in a peaceful small town, turning out to be evil to the core?
Apparently pretty good
Seems like small towns are pretty good breeding grounds for serial killers.
I didnt realize Twisted Minds was back till today 😅
Just comes to show if you notice two kids being bullies and still hanging around each other as they grew You would think the authorities would have a better understanding with over 1000 people missing and a few complaints from survivors.
How is it that evil always outsmarts intelligence 😳 Must be just plain laziness
Australia 💕Christina
At 00:09 my first split second thought about the guy on the right was "Ron Jeremy?" And I have to state a thought I've had several times about situations such as in this video. Think of how true the saying of "birds of feather flock together" tends to be. Gays, feminist, racists, religious people, drug abusers, etc seem to naturally condense and pool into a group of like minded associates. It's got to happen with murderers more than we realize as well. You could argue that they don't because they don't trust one another to not murder them while distracted but reread the other group examples I gave and you will see the not trusting one another is rampant in all those groups as well. But they still congregated.
It is insaaaaaaane to me that anybody would be sat with the police and not ask for a lawyer before saying anything, but especially if you’re guilty?? You know you did it??? Baffling
More often than not everybody has a need to boast their exploits whether it is good or evil because vanity is hard to tame .
WTH why are people like ted bundy more famous than these two?? I never heard of these guys till this video.
These guys are more terrifying because they killed in discriminately to
Phew, so many...
Thanks for the video though!
The Camper Outside the Prison was Bizarre.
wow, very interesting, thnx
No death sentence? Bummer. What a system.
Why would you want to let them off easy by getting them out of a lifelong prison sentence?
It’s San Joaquin 😂😂😂 i appreciate the breakdown though lol
Is there a reason you have captions? UA-cam has a captions option already. I find them annoying
The on screen text calling San Joaquin County "San Wa-keen County" is funny to me.
I'm sure it's just spelled phonetically so the narrator pronounces it correctly but it's goofy that it's in the video.