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  • Former Archbishop of Canterbury says he’d like to see Article 50 revoked.
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    The former Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, joins Emily Maitlis to discuss Brexit, British identity and Universal Credit and says he’d like to see Article 50 revoked as he believes “we cannot arrive at a reasoned, sensible conclusion with the timetable we've got"
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 279

  • @gyrovague
    @gyrovague 5 років тому +44

    Ex-Archbishop ASMR

    • @riverdeep399
      @riverdeep399 5 років тому

      gyrovague Not with that lisp. Its like nails on a chalk board for me.

    • @TheClemcaster
      @TheClemcaster 5 років тому +5

      @@riverdeep399 He doesn't have a lisp.

    • @gkelly34
      @gkelly34 5 років тому

      gyrovague tingles all over ASMR?

    • @warnpassion
      @warnpassion 5 років тому

      gyrovague You won't believe me. I came here just fr that.

  • @thecrusader6790
    @thecrusader6790 5 років тому +8

    The people of Britain have spoken and they want out!
    OUT MEANS OUT!

  • @damian-795
    @damian-795 5 років тому +5

    This man is highly respected. Catholics world over consider him one of their priest`s which is amazing considering he is Cof E. He is a complete treasure and a true man of God.

  • @andrepettersson175
    @andrepettersson175 5 років тому +5

    And I'd like to never see this reporter again, but we can't all get what we want can we.

  • @michaelvoisey8458
    @michaelvoisey8458 5 років тому +8

    Would Farage get the same respect or Rees Mogg ?

    • @MrB1923
      @MrB1923 5 років тому +1

      No chance.

    • @robertjarman7966
      @robertjarman7966 4 роки тому

      Rowan Williams is a heretic

    • @minui8758
      @minui8758 2 місяці тому

      How many years have they spent pouring over the writings of the foundational thinkers of our civilisation in the original Greek Latin and Hebrew? They are totally incomparable in character, intelligence, scholarship, and career achievements. Respect is earned

  • @MrMwhiting
    @MrMwhiting 5 років тому +2

    Leave means leave. Sign the UK open petition for a no deal Brexit 328,319 MBGA

  • @rosalindfitch-mayo6908
    @rosalindfitch-mayo6908 5 років тому +2

    The Anglican church has long been disconnected from the laity- those with bottoms on the pews-whilst the clergy are always in various respects on another level- this disconnection showed up during the referendum when the clergy including the current Archbishop called on everyone-Christians to vote Remain- since then 2019-the Archbishop has called for a gathering of the good and the great to discuss how to think about the state of the country-
    I wondered then just how many joining the group to talk would be the same elites and establishment that think, and still do- that those who voted Leave were wrong-misguided didnot understand what was going on.
    It saddens me that RW here does not hold a more thoughtful and CONNECTED view to the reasons for the Leave Vote for Brexit
    But sadly the Church is not in the right place- that place that Christ directed them too-
    they are still thinking and behaving as if they have the 'truth'.

  • @R00365
    @R00365 5 років тому +2

    Calm & thoughtful.

  • @serjthereturn
    @serjthereturn 5 років тому +21

    Managed to shoe-horn in Hodge's unsubstantiated claim to get another regular newsnight Corbyn-bash in I see

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 5 років тому +4

      I bet you dont complain when they do the same to Tommy Robinson though do you?

    • @serjthereturn
      @serjthereturn 5 років тому +4

      @@sonofsomerset1695 of course not. Because Robinson is a convicted fraudster alt-right thug, not an elected representative. Doesn't stop Newsnight giving him a platform though

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 5 років тому +3

      You haven't got a clue obviously. How many children has comrade Corbyn saved from being abused, zero, how many has Tommy Robinson saved, hundreds if not thousands!

    • @serjthereturn
      @serjthereturn 5 років тому +3

      @@sonofsomerset1695 what by being in contempt of court?

    • @serjthereturn
      @serjthereturn 5 років тому +3

      @@sonofsomerset1695 you mean the ones exposed by Labour MP Anne Cryer. Funny that Tommy is not interested in grooming and rape by non-muslims, which is strange for a self described 'crusader for justice'. Not to mention EDL leader Richard Price being on the sex offenders register for being a nonce

  • @warnz9701
    @warnz9701 5 років тому +2

    I say I'd like the former Archbishop of Canterbury to accept a democratic vote.

  • @20shourya
    @20shourya 5 років тому +10

    WHAT DID THE LIBRARIAN SAY TO THE STUDENT?
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  • @GallowsClough
    @GallowsClough 5 років тому +1

    Right about UC, criminals guaranteed three meals a day while unemployed treated worse than criminals and made desperate enough to have to rely on food banks for the most trifling of transgressions. Millionaire toffs like Cameron and IDS deserve the worst for what they did to the country's worst-off.

  • @heatcheck3
    @heatcheck3 5 років тому +4

    This man is indicative of why no one goes to church anymore in Britain.

    • @minui8758
      @minui8758 2 місяці тому

      You mean it requires far too much intellect to listen?

    • @MGJS71
      @MGJS71 19 днів тому

      ​@@minui8758 no, the bishop's just wrong.

  • @TheodoreIchabod
    @TheodoreIchabod 5 років тому +6

    So the requirements for a respectful interview are that the person in question be a minister of the faith? This is the only line the BBC wont cross? Something eh?

    • @pippipster6767
      @pippipster6767 4 роки тому +3

      I know what you mean ... on the other hand, notice how he actually answered the questions!

  • @minimead368
    @minimead368 5 років тому +2

    How can you have a finger up to democracy with more democracy?

  • @ABC_DEF
    @ABC_DEF 5 років тому +1

    A lover of Brussels. Surprisingly, he doesn't think about all those African farmers who will be able to sell their produce to us free of tariffs after Brexit.

    • @ABC_DEF
      @ABC_DEF 5 років тому

      @Russian Métropolitan Don't be ridiculous. The UK economy is not going to be destroyed.

  • @Stephen.Bingham
    @Stephen.Bingham 5 років тому +8

    A thoughtful and thoroughly sensible contribution

  • @Noseypoke-mr7th
    @Noseypoke-mr7th 5 років тому +4

    This guy is SO MIXED UP he can't decide on ANYTHING .If he was in charge he'd NEVER get anything done "Taking the time it takes to solve a problem" There NEVER was a problem untill the Remoaners stuck their oars in.
    He's fell into the REMOANERS trap...hook ...line ...and ...sinker. God should give him a kick up the arse.

  • @jblogs1000
    @jblogs1000 5 років тому +1

    i would like the reformation revoked. but people do not always get the truth

  • @ddd-ly3rv
    @ddd-ly3rv 5 років тому +1

    You could find yourself in a position were all these things are less hard to imagine. One of the big issues nowadays is the fact you may spoil someone else's sparkle or dreams. It's like the moment a woman gets upset. It's hugely immature. But almost a game in todays world, you live in a dream and so become highly irritable. Couple that with the general cheekiness of the population, a recipe for disaster.

  • @thespiritofhegel3487
    @thespiritofhegel3487 11 місяців тому

    It's more civil in this country than when it was a theocracy, divine right of kings and all that. Thankfully the Anglican church is dying. And I voted for Brexit and never have regretted it.

  • @ryan00035
    @ryan00035 4 роки тому

    He's right in saying that many people distrust and dislike the political class. Sadly they will not for a very long time.
    And life goes on...

  • @jensonsenna4501
    @jensonsenna4501 5 років тому +3

    The church. LMAO

  • @larosadeguadalupe9790
    @larosadeguadalupe9790 5 років тому +13

    The English Church is even more politicized than the oligarchic Russian Church.

  • @slinkyfeet1
    @slinkyfeet1 5 років тому +1

    He needs to go back to his church and stay inside it ... by himself.... the people believe in brexit..... so believe in god but not in themselves? ... is that what this hypocrite is saying?

    • @Hawbitten
      @Hawbitten 5 років тому

      "the people believe in brexit" no they don't. Never met anyone was wasn't a keyboard warrior who claimed to support Brexit can't believe it it that much if they're scared to talk about.
      Also. Most of the people who voted leave have already died of old-age. The living people voted remain.

    • @slinkyfeet1
      @slinkyfeet1 5 років тому

      Hawbitten your comment makes zero sense, I guess that explains your stance and ignorance.
      Oh and you may want to consider looking up a bbc millennial brexit interview, those who weren’t old enough to vote, stated they would vote to leave.

    • @AceofSpadesWTF
      @AceofSpadesWTF 3 місяці тому

      ​@@slinkyfeet1hows brexshit worked out then? Moron

  • @MellorDR
    @MellorDR 5 років тому +16

    he has wisdom in abundance

    • @riverdeep399
      @riverdeep399 5 років тому +2

      David R Mellor because he's delaying Brexit?

    • @richardellis8193
      @richardellis8193 5 років тому +7

      @@riverdeep399 becuase he considers his words and answers thoughtfully. something sadly lacking on all sides these days.

    • @richardellis8193
      @richardellis8193 5 років тому

      @Jill Kews that's a shame. I would much rather see anti-semites installed on the minister's crucifixes.

    • @pauladams4886
      @pauladams4886 5 років тому

      Wisdom 😂😂😂😂
      Well if you compared him to a pig I guess he’s quite smart

    • @casperslaststandme5991
      @casperslaststandme5991 5 років тому +1

      Why doesn't he bring any of this abundant wisdom with him when he leaves his house then ?

  • @Hawbitten
    @Hawbitten 5 років тому

    To everyone in the comments saying "Muh democracy!" you're getting it. All that was voted on if if we leave. Not if there's a deal or what the deal entails. If you wanted a no-deal brexit this badly you should have asked for it back in 2016. Technalically if the only thing that changes it our name goes off the list of nations in the EU and nothing else they've still done their part. You're not being "betrayed". You just played yourself.

  • @tvrtvr6984
    @tvrtvr6984 5 років тому +7

    Why should anyone listen to this old man who has assisted in weakening the institution he has lead for many years. Anyone who ran a company or institution that saw the decline his church has would rightly so be seen as having awful leadership skills.

    • @deanodoesstreaming1653
      @deanodoesstreaming1653 5 років тому

      TVR TVR I’m not sure it’s fair to blame a single man for the decline of the church. People in the UK are becoming less and less religious not because of a bishop. But because they just don’t believe or don’t have enough evidence to do so.

    • @georgek3261
      @georgek3261 27 днів тому

      @@deanodoesstreaming1653or that they do not want to believe

  • @penguinegg01
    @penguinegg01 4 роки тому

    I think Jonathan Sachs would make a better Archbishop.

  • @dougfresh1980
    @dougfresh1980 5 років тому +2

    there should be a referendum for what media we have to listen too, leave or remain with the BBC

  • @riverdeep399
    @riverdeep399 5 років тому

    This is all BS. No chabges will be made, taxing the sick, dying and the poor will never change. Neither will government rough shot and totalitarian attitudes and self indulgent, entitled and self serving MPs.

    • @MrB1923
      @MrB1923 5 років тому

      The revolution will not be CENTRALISED.

  • @Guy-ns1hk
    @Guy-ns1hk 5 років тому +11

    She is playing him like bongo drums, an anti-Brexit beat.
    No deal.

    • @raybo64
      @raybo64 5 років тому

      No Brexshit, you mean.

    • @ernestomenendez9307
      @ernestomenendez9307 5 років тому

      you are a sexist racist, should be reported

  • @benben5861
    @benben5861 5 років тому +1

    Fun to see the Brits making fun of themselves....now Scottish referendum...Irish unity....😂😂😂👍👍👍

    • @casperslaststandme5991
      @casperslaststandme5991 5 років тому

      Ben Ben brits have been doing that forever, its just that you've still been crying in ya drams about coludon or some other stupid arse kicking contest, we forgotten all about that old bollocks years ago we just laugh about it now, my dad was Scottish and even he said all the Scottish do these days is whinge and blame other people lol.

  • @mikeford1273
    @mikeford1273 5 років тому +1

    Get a proper job! Who cares what this supporter of Sharia courts thinks.

  • @palimpsestransparent
    @palimpsestransparent 5 років тому

    Wise words

  • @2gointruth
    @2gointruth 5 років тому

    We (all men) must never remain a slave to our own many dishonest and immoral thoughts of “Temptation” - The evil one within us; also called Satan, the Devil and Lucifer, etc. This is everything which has changed us (post puberty and adolescence) from being that young innocent and harmless child of whom we all once were: - When the true Spirit of God has sent us Immanuel, the anointed one, also called Jesus: - He is the true prophet and the chosen Son of man, already sent to teach us how to rise above the evil one within us. So watch out for all the fake prophets; all the men who teach Christianity and all other religions: - We must always pray and live by the true teaching of only Jesus alone…
    “Never again will I curse the ground because of man, however evil his inclinations may be from his youth upwards.” - (Genesis 8: 21) -
    “If you have ears to hear; then hear.” - (Mark 4: 9) -
    “Beware of false prophets; men who come to you dressed up as sheep while underneath they are savage wolves. You will recognize them by the fruits they bear.” - (Matthew 7: 15-16) -
    “God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” - (John 4: 24) -
    “Do not call any man on earth ‘father’; for you have one Father and he is in heaven. Nor must you be called ‘teacher’; you have one Teacher, the Messiah.” - (Matthew 23: 9-10) -
    “The teaching that I give is not my own; it is the teaching of him who sent me. Whoever has the will to do the will of God shall know whether my teaching comes from him or is merely my own.” - (John 7: 16-17) -
    “The thief comes only to steal, to kill, to destroy; I have come that men may have life, and may have it in all its fullness.” - (John 10: 10) -
    “Take care that no one misleads you: For many will come claiming my name…”
    - (Matthew 24: 4) -
    “Many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many; and as lawlessness spreads, men’s love for one another will grow cold. But the man who holds out to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the Kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the earth as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.” - (Matthew 24: 11-14) -
    “I am the way; I am the truth and I am life; no one comes to the Father except by me. If you knew me you would know my Father too.” - (John 14: 6-7) -
    “When you pray, go into a room by yourself, and shut the door. Pray to your Father who is there in the secret place; and your Father who sees what is secret will reward you.
    In your prayers do not go babbling on like the heathen, who imagine that the more they say the more likely they are to be heard.
    Do not imitate them. Your Father knows what your needs are before you ask him.
    This is how you should pray:
    Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,
    Your kingdom come; your will be done, on earth as in heaven,
    Give us today our daily bread,
    And forgive us the wrong we have done, as we have forgiven those who have wronged us.
    And do not bring us to the test, but save us from the evil one.
    For yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory, for ever.
    Amen.
    For if you forgive others the wrongs they have done, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; but if you do not forgive others, then the wrongs you have done will not be forgiven by your Father.” - (Matthew 6: 6-15) -
    “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measure you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” - (Matthew 7: 1-2) -
    “Truly I tell you; if anyone obeys my teaching he shall never know what it is to die.” - (John 8: 51) -
    “Always treat others as you would like them to treat you: that is the Law and the Prophets.
    Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it.” - (Matthew 7: 12-14) -
    “I am the gate; anyone who comes into the fold through me shall be safe.” - (John 10: 9) -
    “I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world” - (John 12: 47) -
    “Whoever then will acknowledge me before men, I will acknowledge him before my Father in heaven; and whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.” - (Matthew 10: 32-34) -
    “Someone said to him, ‘your mother and brothers are here outside; they want to speak to you.’ Jesus turned to the man who brought the message, and said, ‘Who is my mother? Who are my brothers?’ and pointing to the disciples, he said, ‘Here are my mother and my brothers. Whoever does the will of my heavenly Father is my brother, my sister, my mother.’” - (Matthew 12: 47-50) -
    “The disciples came and asked Jesus, ‘Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven?’ He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: ‘Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.
    Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.
    If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, It would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
    Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!’” - (Matthew 18: 1-7) -
    “An expert in the law, [a leading religious Pharisee] tested him with this question: ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’ He answered, ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. That is the greatest commandment. It comes first. The second is like it: Love your neighbour as yourself. Everything in the Law and the Prophets hangs on these two commandments.’” - (Matthew 22: 35-40) -
    “There is no greater love than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends.”
    - (John 15: 13) -
    "Stay awake, and pray that you may be spared the test: The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." - (Matthew 26: 41) -
    “Teach them to observe all that I have commanded you. And be assured, I am with you always, to the end of time.” - (Matthew 28: 20) -
    “One of the criminals who hung there also mocked and taunted him: ‘Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself, and us!’ But the other criminal rebuked him. ‘Have you no fear of God? You are under the same sentence as he. For us it is plain justice; we are paying the price for our misdeeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.’ And he said, ‘Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.’ He answered, “I tell you this: today you shall be with me in Paradise.’” - (Luke 23: 39-43) -
    “For it is my Father’s will that everyone who looks upon the Son and puts his faith in him shall possess eternal life; and I will raise him up on the last day” - (John 6: 40) -
    Yours always, in true Spirit and in our one given prayer, 2gointruth, Thursday the 10th of January, 2019: - (Matthew 5:14-16) - Where every minute (of both day and night) will always count and can be a new beginning for any one of us. Let it always be you…

  • @mickeyknox3642
    @mickeyknox3642 5 років тому +7

    British means indigenous; English, Scottish, Welsh, nothing more. We're CHRISTIAN, Welcome to the reason St. GEORGE is on our ENGLISH flag, that's our identity, none of that hyphenated brownie EU nonsense.

    • @mickeyknox3642
      @mickeyknox3642 5 років тому

      @Uncle Bruce
      ENGLAND is a CHRISTIAN COUNTRY, ST. GEORGE is the most famous CHRISTIAN MARTYR ON THE PLANET AND ADORNES MANY CHRISTIAN FLAGS. ENGLAND WAS THE STAUNCHEST CHRISTIAN NATION ON THE PLANET, we're so Christian we created our own form of Catholicism and then our own Church of England, coincidentally with our own Pope- Archbishop of Canterbury, piss off anti-white/anti-English/anti-Christian racist Labour pig.

    • @bdwhardy9680
      @bdwhardy9680 5 років тому +5

      As a Christian, I would say we are an Agnostic nation, not a Christian one. England is actually largely a mixture of people from places that are now 5 different countries. We have mixed heritage. That is what I am as an Englishman, a member of a multicultural society for Celts, Angles, Saxons and Norse, and anyone else who comes after. End of.

    • @mickeyknox3642
      @mickeyknox3642 5 років тому

      @@bdwhardy9680
      While being incredibly specific...yes, but still unfortunately NO. We're a single ethnic group with two actual sources, Celtic/German and our Religion while being Anglican is still very Christian, not Muslim nor anything else.

    • @philipocarroll
      @philipocarroll 5 років тому +1

      Better get out of Northern Ireland so

    • @harrydecamp1897
      @harrydecamp1897 5 років тому +2

      Why do you need to WRITE IN CAPS

  • @stephenandrews5782
    @stephenandrews5782 5 років тому

    well mr archbishop who wanted sharia law if a referendum was good enough to go in its good enough to leave!!!!!

  • @ernestomenendez9307
    @ernestomenendez9307 5 років тому

    Amen!

  • @tomhulme1176
    @tomhulme1176 5 років тому

    Religion should have no part in politics

  • @compendioussuccient6784
    @compendioussuccient6784 5 років тому +2

    Why is this deluded person asked their opinion. Who, in the whole of the public ever asks for this mans opinnion.

    • @minui8758
      @minui8758 2 місяці тому

      The 36% of the population who identify as Church of England?

  • @Thinkagain21
    @Thinkagain21 5 років тому

    Taking a long time - saying nothing!

  • @MrB1923
    @MrB1923 5 років тому +1

    I would suggest that a man who has devoted his entire life to a religion that is about as credible and evidence based as a belief in Elvis being alive, shouldn't really be telling anyone else how the world works.

  • @jbut1208
    @jbut1208 5 років тому

    Christ died on the cross for our sins! God became weak for our sake! Power as described here is not Christian!

  • @peterfoster8604
    @peterfoster8604 5 років тому

    Who gives a flying f.... what this guy says or doesn't say.

  • @WhateverMan35
    @WhateverMan35 5 років тому +3

    This is a classic, a member of the religious faction with an authoritarian political view? who wooda thunk! Another reason why secularism should be pushed forward further so that the religious clergy should stripped of their automatic political power.

    • @mtg6792
      @mtg6792 2 роки тому

      Where exactly was the authoritarianism in his response? He: 1. Espoused the view that more time was needed for rational response, 2. Argued for not determining things by referendum so frequently, 3. Stated that referendum required agreed upon conventions like in Switzerland, 4. Argued that benefits should be received immediately, to reduce the disparity between the right to a benefit and actually receiving it, 5. Argued that missing appointments should not result in the loss of needed financial assistance, 6. Argued against antisemitism and taking more accountability for words and attitudes.
      Nearly all of those points are against authoritarianism.

    • @WhateverMan35
      @WhateverMan35 2 роки тому

      @@mtg6792 you're projecting so hard you're making PowerPoint presentations. He's personally against brexit and he's "professionally" asking for the vote result being reconsidered. He is nowhere near to considered to be bipartisan.

  • @MrADTNZ
    @MrADTNZ 5 років тому

    The Arch Bishop of Canterbury is a Jew

  • @staffankarinpappila3975
    @staffankarinpappila3975 5 років тому

    UK is doomed...

  • @FortySe7enFPS
    @FortySe7enFPS 3 роки тому

    Her ears are huge lol

  • @johnsmith5139
    @johnsmith5139 5 років тому

    ole rowan williams, 'rowan' in his regatta like it duddnt matta

  • @gillenzfluff8380
    @gillenzfluff8380 5 років тому

    What ever happened to god moves in mysterious ways? Doesn't he think this is the will of god.

  • @phaedracollins6051
    @phaedracollins6051 5 років тому +2

    Poison.

  • @jonathanwor
    @jonathanwor 5 років тому

    Perhaps we should organise some sort of sandbox world, where all the people who deny reality (for example the folly of a no deal) can play in and be educated about their folly by having the scenario they envisage actually happen.
    Hopefully the real world won't turn into such a sandbox where such people get to play around and (hopefully) there are enough sensible people to deal the best they can with a bad 'no win' situation.

  • @bigkanuna
    @bigkanuna 5 років тому

    "Socialism, whether Marxist or Nationalist will destroy a nation."

    • @thejoin4687
      @thejoin4687 5 років тому

      Is that a quotation?

    • @matthewlowther8053
      @matthewlowther8053 5 років тому

      Its capitalism that destroys nations and greed which is what capitalism is.

    • @bigkanuna
      @bigkanuna 5 років тому

      Why do the National Socialist and Communists love to play the victim card. @@matthewlowther8053

  • @creativesource3514
    @creativesource3514 5 років тому

    I think he is an atheist. :-)

  • @PClanner
    @PClanner 5 років тому

    Those eyebrows.... can't take the man seriously after seeing those

    • @riverdonoghue9992
      @riverdonoghue9992 2 роки тому

      I met him once in dublin. Really nice man. But I have to admit I couldn't stop looking at his eye brows.