Hate to ruin your meme, but Shudderwock is heavily favoured against taunt druid. Not only do you have the inevitable Shudderwock combo that bypasses their taunts, you also generate beasts on the opponent's side of the board, which makes their Witching Hour almost useless. Now token druid is a different matter altogether.
Trump is literally the highlight of my every day that he posts and I don't know if that's because he's a great youtuber or if I have an exceedingly depressing life. Anyways keep up the good work bud
I like running hagatha because it adds pretty much a guaranteed board clear each turn especially when you can play more than one shudderwock a turn. Plus I did run without it for a while and ive sometimes not had any way to kill off my shudderwocks to summon new ones and trigger your infinite healing/damage, which can leave you vulnerable. Ik it seems unnecesarry when you have 7 6/3s on board but its actually quite handy. Ypu can always replace hagatha with primordial drake for board clear and to recycle shudderwocks but it just means you'll have to summon 3 shudderwocks instead of just 2. Just a personal preference
"I don't like Sandbinder. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like Hemet, Jungle Hunter. Hemet is soft and smooth." -Trump, 2018
idk about keleseth. Wild pyro is really good when there's more odd paladin and token druid, and there's even a new list with youthful brewmaster popping up that looks good
pandaren and brewmaster is better. it's cheaper and also viable for the combo. it's also can be used on other combo on wild since it's a neutral card. just saying.
Not every Shudderwalk deck requires Grumble. As an example, Wild has access to a charging Shudderwalk combo. I'd really like to not deal with THAT come the next expansion.
I think with the hemet tech he won't be able to effectively utilize Prince Keleseth's battlecry as the majority of minions are removed when he plays hemet, so it maybe worth considering putting back the murmuring elemental
Hagatha has a chance every time to ruin the combo. If the hagatha battlecry goes of then the bounce back to the hand goes off afterwards without a seranite chaingang you will have no shudderwocks except for the one you just summoned (which as you already know won't be returned to your hand) that being said with the downside of filling your hand so it makes you shudderwock combo delayed is also has a chance of just ruining your combo (even if small) Which may have gone unseen while deck building but in action it's very visible
Keleseth doesn't add too much to this deck. I like murmuring, but honestly wild pyromancer is a bigger reason, feels real good for acolyte and aggro decks as well. a 2 mana ooze and thalnos for card draw/lightning storm turns, fun times
You need to swap out one of those mind control techs for a Gorgon or Banker. Then at least you can get your Shudderwock back in hand or into your deck if the Grumble fails.
The new Omega card (and probably the other ones as well) seems good in a shudderwock deck since you play shudderwock with 10 mana usually. Though maybe it's just too much 'win more' because playing shudderwock usually means you win anyway? What do you think?
The mage got it right. Just don't deal with it. Shudderwock is really high up there in the most rediculous decks of all time. It's way worse than old quest rogue, old quest mage with a billion iceblocks and old freeze mage. There is two options to win against Shudderwock. 1. You beat him up as fast as possible. But wait, the deck has alot of stall and survivability that even works towards the combo. 2. You beg that they either missplay, or get really really unlucky, considering how consistent the current version of the deck is (2/49 chance if played correctly, resulting in a 4% chance of failure). AND have a full board clear available for that case. If you dont, well you still lose. There is barely any aggro deck that can beat up Shudderwock shaman fast enough. And the only control deck that can win once the combo is going is probably exodia mage. But even then in my experience of playing exodia mage Shudderwock combo is just ready faster than your combo, especially in the hemmet list. I'll admit that Shudderwock isn't as brainless to play as some zoolock or dude paladin lists, it surely isn't up there with the decks you really have to think alot about your moves either though. Especially for being a combo deck the thought process going into every turn is fairly low in comparison. I feel like the highest chance of beating shudderwock statistically when it comes to winrate is actually just being a warlock with double Gnomeferatu. The odds of you discarding the Shudderwock is probably higher than the chances of you outtempoing Shudderwock, outvaluing Shudderwock or having them fuck up their combo AND clearing the board combined. And one of the biggest problems of the deck is the total lack of control over the game you feel playing against it. And that's coming from an exodia mage player, which normally is king of the single player decks. Blizzard should really consider doing something about this deck, I don't think the community will keep quiet for an entire two years of Shudderwock rampage. At this point, the only thing to stop Shudderwock, if blizzard doesnt nerf the deck, is an even more stupid deck coming out with the next few expansions. PS: Cmon, hit me with all the answers saying that I just need to git gud and stop crying about other decks. But still most people know im right. Even the ones playing the deck themselves.
According to HSreplay, the deck has a sub 50% winrate at every single level of play. It might be uninteractive but calling the deck OP is objectively wrong
not sure what you checked, but all the shudderwock lists im finding on hsreplay and other comparison sites vary from 52.4-67,9%. While that might not be too rediculous of a number, considering the numbers on other decks and the fact that hearthstone is still skill and rng based those values are way too high. And while many warlock lists go way beyond that in terms of winrate, those are less rng reliant and by far not as frustrating to play against. Just because something doesnt have 80% winrate, doesnt mean its fair and fun to play against. Shudderwock is far from both of those things.
It is interesting to see that MCT is a major shudderwock playing when it technically has a chance to lose you the game when shudderwock is played. I loved the card but removed it from my shudder deck just as a pre-caution.
i thought of a good deck that was made just to troll, all the normal shudderwock cards, freeze related battlecry minions, and alexstraza, they just cannot die.
Part Time Gamer tbf most people aren't any more. They run Zola and that and hope they don't get the 1/64 chance or whatever it is that it doesn't get bounced
The issue with the murmiring elemental (or whatever the name was) is that it's another condition to have (wait until you can grumble it) while also cutting out space for a better card. Not to mention that you get risks of losing the combo anyway if you grunble first then hagatha two times in a row although the chsnce is thin. The older otk deck isn't that good and that's why people use the current version, with more tech cards and flexibility.
Sorry to burst your bubble but spell make does have a line of victory, they need to stack their Alanna fast and then Alanna on 9, Alexxtrasza on 10 can be a surprisingly quick lethal
I run it specifically for certain matchups. Though my deck isn't completely refined, I have a fairly high winrate with my big spell mage. Then again that could be because I'm in wood league, I'm confident with my current build.
People do things i dont understand: -Playing hagatha on a shudderwock deck -Not playing murmuring elemental and hoping for luck take the wheel than blaming The Luck
I've been searching the comments for anyone who knows the fact that hagatha can ruin the combo everytime you play shudderwock. Please tell me you understand this.
Despite people moving onto this version on shuttershaman, I still prefer the elemental build with the double battlecry. Fixes that miss opportunity by a good bit, since rngesus is a douche.
"I've analyzed 300K possible games of Sudderwock"
Me: How many of those Sudderwock games have defeated Taunt Druid?
Trump: Only one.
Shudderwock is Dr Strange now and Taunt Druid is Thanos?
i won the majority of times agianst taunt druid at 10+
Hate to ruin your meme, but Shudderwock is heavily favoured against taunt druid. Not only do you have the inevitable Shudderwock combo that bypasses their taunts, you also generate beasts on the opponent's side of the board, which makes their Witching Hour almost useless.
Now token druid is a different matter altogether.
Taunt druid sucks if you have a polymorph effect and skullking gist
The only taunt druid matchup that doesnt favout shudderwock is the one deck that doesnt run witching hour
Holy shit I usually never stay until the ending, never doing that again.
The first time I faced a Shudderwock pre-speedup, I was all "How long can this go on?"
Warning: Jump scare at 12.54
The Cardistry Vlog of Jaspas Deck 23:51 *
Didn't even notice it first watch through lol
LOL XD
felixmarc98 non felix dit pas ça ce n'est pas un vrai commentaire ça n'apporte rien à la conversation et plus personnes utilisent XD depuis 2007
Trump scare*
THE SHA MAN
See, now, I was thinking:
THE WOCK MAN
When the top comment is a Thanos meme, and the second top comment is a Prequel meme.
The reddit war is leaking
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
Is it possible to learn these memes?
Basic Spencer Not from a normie.
There are no Thanos memes here, unless you brought them with you.
Trump is literally the highlight of my every day that he posts and I don't know if that's because he's a great youtuber or if I have an exceedingly depressing life.
Anyways keep up the good work bud
Matthew I totally agree, when I feel down I always watch trump
Probably both
Why is Hamilton your profile picture?
Trump won't bring back the jobs he prmoised, your life will continue to be depressing.
Hai Han Isn't black unemployment on a new low?
That music in the beginning is out of this world!
My jaws that claws, my my bite that catch
11:12 wow this heropower is insane!
Eggsblaine?
That jump scare cured my cancer!
My falimy thanks you Trump!
The fire track at the start is star fox corneria
What about snicker snacking
The best tech for shudderwock is tinkmaster overspark. It's great having that chance to destroy your own combo by turning shudderwock in a squirrel.
Jens editing is top tier
You know that the meta is extra healthy when players instantly concede based on the match-up.
Such a fun card. I just had a game against a Shaman that lasted 1 hour and 36 min.
I can't help but see a resemblance between Trump in that sudden zoom-in at 12:54 and the Murloc Tinyfin at the end.
Kaz monkas
That "nice" dub had me on the floor! XD
Earth shock is so good! I reluctantly gave it up just because everyone else did
I like running hagatha because it adds pretty much a guaranteed board clear each turn especially when you can play more than one shudderwock a turn. Plus I did run without it for a while and ive sometimes not had any way to kill off my shudderwocks to summon new ones and trigger your infinite healing/damage, which can leave you vulnerable. Ik it seems unnecesarry when you have 7 6/3s on board but its actually quite handy. Ypu can always replace hagatha with primordial drake for board clear and to recycle shudderwocks but it just means you'll have to summon 3 shudderwocks instead of just 2. Just a personal preference
Two more years of MY CLAWS THAT CATCH MY JAWS THAT BITE! Two more fucking years!
A fun little tech is Marin the Fox + Mossy Horror, gives a ton of value against control
"I don't like Sandbinder. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like Hemet, Jungle Hunter. Hemet is soft and smooth." -Trump, 2018
idk about keleseth. Wild pyro is really good when there's more odd paladin and token druid, and there's even a new list with youthful brewmaster popping up that looks good
pandaren and brewmaster is better.
it's cheaper and also viable for the combo.
it's also can be used on other combo on wild since it's a neutral card.
just saying.
Before he could calculate the odds of losing, he won.
Now this is truly "the Madman" ! :)
Can't wait to see all the new and exiting Battlecry from Boomsday that shudderwock can have fun with.
It's called at 10 mana get a board of 16/6 shudderwock
OH NO
Mmento Mori you mean do nothing because most of your shudder get bounced?
Not every Shudderwalk deck requires Grumble. As an example, Wild has access to a charging Shudderwalk combo. I'd really like to not deal with THAT come the next expansion.
KoopaKrump what's the combo?
"I am the mighty Deathwing. Roar"
Thoughts on that preview of the next expansion
*MY JAWS THAT BITE MY CLAWS THAT CATCH*
Dat surprise at 23:49
9:00 my first time hearing the shaddawock attacking voice
I think with the hemet tech he won't be able to effectively utilize Prince Keleseth's battlecry as the majority of minions are removed when he plays hemet, so it maybe worth considering putting back the murmuring elemental
What was the music at the start? I recognise it but can't place it
Hagatha has a chance every time to ruin the combo. If the hagatha battlecry goes of then the bounce back to the hand goes off afterwards without a seranite chaingang you will have no shudderwocks except for the one you just summoned (which as you already know won't be returned to your hand) that being said with the downside of filling your hand so it makes you shudderwock combo delayed is also has a chance of just ruining your combo (even if small) Which may have gone unseen while deck building but in action it's very visible
Keleseth doesn't add too much to this deck. I like murmuring, but honestly wild pyromancer is a bigger reason, feels real good for acolyte and aggro decks as well. a 2 mana ooze and thalnos for card draw/lightning storm turns, fun times
You need to swap out one of those mind control techs for a Gorgon or Banker. Then at least you can get your Shudderwock back in hand or into your deck if the Grumble fails.
11:11
Did King Crimson just activate?
WeirdBoySkuzag what does this “king crimson”you speak of do?
Keep On Stacking My Q I actually know, I tried to make a meme but maybe went too deep.
Part 5 anime hype!
IT JUST WORKS
HOW DOES IT WORK THO?
Trump can't stop doing value plays even in a hard combo deck :)
Hey the titles are no longer screaming all caps. And the thumbnails are a bit more understated too. I love how you've gone back to normal again :)
Its like the old Miracle rogue: interactive. Im waiting for the nerf.
Can anyone tell me what that pixel font is that is used when the video opens?
The new Omega card (and probably the other ones as well) seems good in a shudderwock deck since you play shudderwock with 10 mana usually. Though maybe it's just too much 'win more' because playing shudderwock usually means you win anyway? What do you think?
12:53 for jumpscare
*Primordial D* 👌
Almost sounds like a soundcloud rapper name.
05:44 no, hemmet tech was created by farsight.
Can someone please explain to me the whole chance of shudderwock success thing?
Wow, you really have to watch the video right to the last second!
Shudderwock is a lot like an OTK dragon priest, But instead of wining by actually killing your opponent you win by rage quits!!!
I knew it?!
Since i got Zola from my first 5 packs from the pre purchase bundle that this Card will be useful when the right time has come!
Y U no murmuring elemental - Fire plume harbringer?
T H E
*MY JAWS THAT BITE!!!*
*MY CLAWS THAT CATCH!!!*
M A N
The Spark Mandrill again!
Does anyone know what song is playing during the end credits?
Shudderwock + Jades = EZ
I thought I imagined that Michael Rosen "noice" for a moment, not gonna lie.
What is the background music Trump is listening to? Reminds me of FMA ost or something like that.
I know the one music clip near the end is Spark Mandrill's stage music from the Megaman X series.
Corneria Theme from Starfox (super smash bros.brawl version)
7:14 He top decked the hex, lol.
The mage got it right. Just don't deal with it. Shudderwock is really high up there in the most rediculous decks of all time. It's way worse than old quest rogue, old quest mage with a billion iceblocks and old freeze mage.
There is two options to win against Shudderwock.
1. You beat him up as fast as possible. But wait, the deck has alot of stall and survivability that even works towards the combo.
2. You beg that they either missplay, or get really really unlucky, considering how consistent the current version of the deck is (2/49 chance if played correctly, resulting in a 4% chance of failure). AND have a full board clear available for that case. If you dont, well you still lose.
There is barely any aggro deck that can beat up Shudderwock shaman fast enough. And the only control deck that can win once the combo is going is probably exodia mage. But even then in my experience of playing exodia mage Shudderwock combo is just ready faster than your combo, especially in the hemmet list.
I'll admit that Shudderwock isn't as brainless to play as some zoolock or dude paladin lists, it surely isn't up there with the decks you really have to think alot about your moves either though. Especially for being a combo deck the thought process going into every turn is fairly low in comparison.
I feel like the highest chance of beating shudderwock statistically when it comes to winrate is actually just being a warlock with double Gnomeferatu. The odds of you discarding the Shudderwock is probably higher than the chances of you outtempoing Shudderwock, outvaluing Shudderwock or having them fuck up their combo AND clearing the board combined.
And one of the biggest problems of the deck is the total lack of control over the game you feel playing against it. And that's coming from an exodia mage player, which normally is king of the single player decks.
Blizzard should really consider doing something about this deck, I don't think the community will keep quiet for an entire two years of Shudderwock rampage. At this point, the only thing to stop Shudderwock, if blizzard doesnt nerf the deck, is an even more stupid deck coming out with the next few expansions.
PS: Cmon, hit me with all the answers saying that I just need to git gud and stop crying about other decks. But still most people know im right. Even the ones playing the deck themselves.
Rekt by Pancake lmao get gud idiot...no but actually people who think shudder is op in 2018 omegalul
I mean yea sure but it's just till the first expansion of 2019 not 2 years since most of the combo pieces will have rotated out :P
oh yeah, my bad there, I actually forgot saronite chain gang is frozen throne. thought it was kobolds and catacombs for some reason.
According to HSreplay, the deck has a sub 50% winrate at every single level of play. It might be uninteractive but calling the deck OP is objectively wrong
not sure what you checked, but all the shudderwock lists im finding on hsreplay and other comparison sites vary from 52.4-67,9%. While that might not be too rediculous of a number, considering the numbers on other decks and the fact that hearthstone is still skill and rng based those values are way too high. And while many warlock lists go way beyond that in terms of winrate, those are less rng reliant and by far not as frustrating to play against. Just because something doesnt have 80% winrate, doesnt mean its fair and fun to play against. Shudderwock is far from both of those things.
It is interesting to see that MCT is a major shudderwock playing when it technically has a chance to lose you the game when shudderwock is played. I loved the card but removed it from my shudder deck just as a pre-caution.
The "NOPE" man
What's the music at the start??
Corneria Theme from Starfox (super smash bros.brawl version)
What was that clip at 21:21? It looked familiar
Oodli I think family guy or futurama
The ending. my god
My claws that bite my jaws that catch
i thought of a good deck that was made just to troll, all the normal shudderwock cards, freeze related battlecry minions, and alexstraza, they just cannot die.
inb4 the “where can I download that Jeeves addon” comments
where can I download that Jeeves addon
Opaldiia that would actually be a legit nice addon to make. Shouldn’t be more complicated than a deck tracker and just as usefull
“I have made the best shudderwock deck...”
*Isn’t playing the Double Battlecry card to guarantee the win
Part Time Gamer Because Murmuring Elemental legit sucks
Part Time Gamer tbf most people aren't any more. They run Zola and that and hope they don't get the 1/64 chance or whatever it is that it doesn't get bounced
The issue with the murmiring elemental (or whatever the name was) is that it's another condition to have (wait until you can grumble it) while also cutting out space for a better card. Not to mention that you get risks of losing the combo anyway if you grunble first then hagatha two times in a row although the chsnce is thin.
The older otk deck isn't that good and that's why people use the current version, with more tech cards and flexibility.
Murmuring Elemental also turns off Prince Keleseth since it costs 2.
If you NEED to you can zola grumble. Your zola is 1 mana. Play shudderwock zola if you miss ur combo as a backup. A 7/8 is good for most ppl tho
You've seen Initial D, now get ready for PRIMORDIAL D.!
Ahhh, if only doppelganger was still usable in standard.
Well, I did just open a golden shudderwock. Guess it’s time for degeneracy bois
BerzerkCharlatan same thing happened to me. If rngsus wills it...it must be fate.
Yay always rope every turn too
I got a Grumble when the expansion first came out. Didnt get Shudderwock though
Is there an actual Jeeves app that tracks your battlecries?
Starfox tho... ❤️
Can I help you, sir?
whats that end music?
With hemet, the deck is truly... Perfectly balanced
Sorry to burst your bubble but spell make does have a line of victory, they need to stack their Alanna fast and then Alanna on 9, Alexxtrasza on 10 can be a surprisingly quick lethal
Nathan Toothaker Alanna is almost never run
I run it specifically for certain matchups. Though my deck isn't completely refined, I have a fairly high winrate with my big spell mage. Then again that could be because I'm in wood league, I'm confident with my current build.
Hold on. Shudderwock is a core card for the shudderwock deck?
Is the ending music a cover of the ending song of Konosuba season 1 or is it just my imagination?
0:00 STAR FOX THEME!!!!!!!
12:54 that zoom
Why was it good to leave the frog alive at 7:19 ?
Consider baleful banker since the hemet chops up the deck anyways. Increase consistency?
JUMPSCARE WARNING
We did it boys
People do things i dont understand:
-Playing hagatha on a shudderwock deck
-Not playing murmuring elemental and hoping for luck take the wheel than blaming The Luck
I've been searching the comments for anyone who knows the fact that hagatha can ruin the combo everytime you play shudderwock. Please tell me you understand this.
T H E C O R N E R I A M A N
What is the song at the beginning of the first match?
Despite people moving onto this version on shuttershaman, I still prefer the elemental build with the double battlecry. Fixes that miss opportunity by a good bit, since rngesus is a douche.
How is kalaseth better than baleful banker?
12:54 why
Jesus that fucking jumpscare
Shrek
Absolutely
Agreed
But what about donkey?
Very true
SomeBODY ONCE TOLD ME
Is the jeeves in the corner part of the game, or edit?
It's an edit.
Snicker snack intensifies
do a wild reno-wock deck vid
11:00 the card disappears wtf
Me no stupid, me make you stupid
Would give adjacent minions taunt possibly take keleseths spot?
My jaws that bite