DEATH ON THE NILE 4K UHD REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- 4K UHD Blu-ray review of the 2021 Death on the Nile directed by Kenneth Branagh. There are only four Panavision System 65 cameras left in the world and they were used to shoot this production. Computer generated imagery dilute the impact of the fabulous quality of much of it but overall it is still one of the best image quality 4K discs thus far released.
Image aspect ratio is the 'Scope frame of approximately 2.40:1 and the sound on the 4K disc is Dolby Atmos but on the Blu-ray is it s DTS 7.1. The extra features are on the Blu-ray only.
Please excuse the typographical error on the final caption which fails to state 'specifically' correctly but it would have taken an additional three hours to correct, compile and re-upload this video for that single error so I decided it wasn't really worth the trouble.
John.
Your observations of "the film itself" is exactly my own feeling. I couldn't agree more. Grating is exactly the word. Bravo Sir, Bravo.
Thank you Timothy. A bit risky to dare to even mention anything like this now but it wouldn't be right not to give an honest appraisal. I did actually like the relationship between Poirot and Salome Otterbourne but her attitude and general behaviour would not have been of a dominant nature back in 1937, even in England. I certainly didn't like the lesbian nonsense which was unnecessary and should have simply remained implied rather than in our faces. John.
@@moviecollector5920 If nobody complains about it, it certainly will get worse. I'll pass on this one, and spend my money elsewhere.
@@moviecollector5920 once again, I couldn't agree more. It's the world as some people wish it to be, rather than how it would have been. Bad forum in that regard.
@@timothymathetes I have my opinions on all this nonsense Timothy but a couple of comments on here have rather suggested it's not possible to have an honest discussion so I need to be extra careful. I think the few bits of nonsense in this spoil the film a little but it doesn't ruin it by any stretch. It's still a good, enjoyable view and enhanced by some of the wonderful 65mm not downscaled by computer animation. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thank you for so many responses. I Appreciate it.
You are so lucky to have such an amazing Mom that also loved film! You've carried on that legacy in an extrodinary way! Cheers
She had never done anything like that before Mark. We'd all saved up to purchase the odd cut down and shorts but Death on the Nile was too irresistible for her and without telling good ol' Dad she was on the telephone to Derann Film Services and a couple of days later that box arrived. What fun that film has provided down the years and it's due another screening soon. I always laugh my head off at Niven and Ustinov but love every aspect of that film. And none of that woke tosh either.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I haven't seen the original but I am going to do so in memory of your wonderful family and perhaps my wife will enjoy it too!
@@warpathh I hope you really love it Mark. And your wife too. John.
I get a special feeling when I watch your reviews, John - the feeling that I'm watching something genuine, something authentic, something true - you're the real deal, I say.
I'm glad and thrilled that the 65 mm picture quality of Death on the Nile ended up as good as you say on the 4K disc.
Thank you for mentioning me again in one of your videos - I'm blown away and deeply honoured by that, and I adore your humorous comment about the thought of me being appalled by the concept of striking 15/70 IMAX prints from 8K DIs; you're more right than you know.
- Erik
Evening Erik. Well I think we've cleared up any misconceptions about how IMAX prints are being produced now so let's see if anyone that knows more than us comes forward to confirm. It's been so interesting finding out and learning all about this even if some of it has been disappointing - to say the least.
Thank you for looking into the whole conundrum of how 70mm prints are made today.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I would've liked it if Cristopher Nolan himself came to your comments section and confirmed what we've learned. That would've been hilariously great indeed.
Erik.
@@loekegaard9 Now I'm thinking of creating a second USER ID in Mr. Nolan's name just to wind you up Erik.
@@moviecollector5920 LOL.
My favorite part of the review is hearing how your whole family was evolved in the projecting of the movies.
Even back then we projected on the biggest white wall we had Bob. Death on the Nile was at least eight feet wide and only limited by the zoom lenses on each projector which we set to match the one that produced the smaller image of the two. Happy days.
Wonderful review as always! Your full length Super 8mm print of the 1978 version is certainly very precious! I hope it is a great print and still in good condition and with no annoying red shift. Wishing you and your beloved ones a Happy Easter!
Sadly it has gone a bit pink. Some parts are worse than others but it's due another watch and always great fun irrespective of it not looking quite as good as it once did. John.
Thanks for this eagerly awaited review, John. I agree in that this film is not narratively as compelling as Orient Express, but is as impressive on a production-quality level.
I'm relieved to hear that the 4K disc of DotN has impressive picture quality, given the hallmark that was Orient Express.
May I ask you about possible future 4K discs by you, please?
I don't know what I'll review next Boss but something will turn up. I may be a little busy shooting my own productions for a while but I'll endeavour to take some time out to keep these videos coming. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thanks for the reply, that sounds exciting. Best of luck with your production endeavours!
I did not think you would have liked the 4k disc due to your comments after watching the film at the Odeon cinema. Another fine review with some more film buff trivia. Thank you for sharing.
The funny thing is Terry, this is better suited to a 4K disc than it was a 70mm print at the Odeon. The 70mm print was better, but of course it was, but the compromises are less distracting now it's on a low cost home video. I did like the film the first time around but right from the start I could see something had gone awry and I couldn't help myself but to sit there and try to work it out rather than enjoy the film for what it was rather than how it was. John.
You’re so cool to listen to. I have worked as a technician in the cinema world for 25 year combined. I have dealt with 70mm and 35mm film. I love hearing your reviews. Keep up the wonderful work!
I'm sure I don't get everything 100% accurate all of the time Ardra but I hope I'm not wrong too often and when I am wrong on something that it's a minor point. Another technician did confirm to me last week that Death on the Nile did indeed have the 70mm prints struck from the 4K master so it seems I'd worked that one out correctly from the available evidence.
John.
Hey John, this comment is actually unrelated to this video but I just wanted to let you know before I forgot that one of my favorite movies, Drive, is being released on 4K Blu-ray in the UK next month in case you wanted to make a video about it. I like it so much that I’m actually importing the 4K limited edition box set to the US!
I saw that one was coming soon Sean. I've never seen it so I will take a look once it's out to see if it's up my street. John.
Sadly found the Nile remake to be altered too far for my murder mystery tastes, thanks for showing the OG print box you own 👏✊
To be fair, they had to be different because it's all been done so many times before. Great to look at irrespective of any minor flaws there may be. John.
@@moviecollector5920 fair point. Cheers
Absolutely brilliant review John, I remember your trip to see Death on the Nile and was excited to see it as I really did enjoyed Orient Express.
I watched Death on the Nile a few weeks ago on Disney Plus and I did enjoy it, and do agree with what you said about the historic inaccuracies and the over reliance on CGI for some scenes. But overall I had a lot of fun and it's a perfect Sunday afternoon film
I do think Kenneth Branagh directorial style really does suit these Agatha Christie films, I know this kinda flopped in the box office but very happy to report we are getting another one.
I really enjoyed your stories on your childhood, very interesting and must've been very cool.
Thanks again John for a fantastic video, take care and look forward to your next video
Morning Pete. We both very much enjoyed Death on the Nile too. It was somewhat more impressive at the Odeon but somehow it was more suitable as a 4K disc owing to all the jiggery pokery to make the 70mm prints. Most of the same foibles are still present but it's fine for a video disc rather than the flagship format of cinema.
Just had my first comment where my daring to mention 'woke' has upset someone. I was concerned to do that because there are still plenty of folk out there who want to cancel or criticize as soon as they perceive anyone may not have the same opinions as them. A terrible shame.
John.
It’s ridiculous we live in a world now where we have to second guess our own personal opinions, no matter how tame or insignificant they are in the grand scheme of things.
I’ve doubted myself at times when recording videos because i was scared i’d be ‘cancelled’.
At the end of the day tho John, it’s one of ur thousands of viewers who’s taken umbrage. Shrug it off and don’t let it bother you. Loads of us really enjoy ur videos and opinions so keep em’ comin’ and keep being you.
Sorry for butting in but read this and felt compelled to comment lol
@@ElectricGeek Thank you for saying so. I won't let any adverse criticism bother me but some criticism is good if it's valid. I don't think criticizing any of us for disliking some of the woke nonsense that is going on is valid as it needs to be mentioned in any honest review of this film because so many people who view it are going to be annoyed or upset by it and would possibly be annoyed with me for not pointing out that it's in here. It's not much but it needs to be called out whenever it is inappropriately placed in any film. A film set in 1937 that includes it is clearly inappropriate. But it didn't spoil the film for me.
John.
Another excellent, informative review with some delightful personal touches, thank you.
As far as your comments on the content of this particular movie, I think they are fair, and as the point of these videos is to present your opinion to others (who can then make up their own minds as to whether they agree or not) I think you should be free to do so. Obviously it's now a very sensitive area and if you use a particular word beginning with 'W' to describe the issue many films have been having of late it will upset some who will inevitably lump you in with 'nasty people' on UA-cam.
I don't believe you are trying to be unkind. I felt it was clear that your criticism was not intended to exclude or insult any of your viewers. Your point, it seemed to me, was that a period film - unless it's a spoof - should at least attempt to be plausible if it can't be 100% authentic. In other words, however well-made or well-intentioned, anachronistic language, attitudes and behaviour can be jarring in a historical movie. We're seeing an awful lot of that in recent years, and it's a shame.
Your channel is so good-natured and charming I would be saddened if you are attacked for what should be considered a reasonable opinion, so I think it is wise to continue to tread carefully in future videos - while still being honest, of course!
No one has attacked me yet Cran but a few people have misunderstood. If anyone does see it as an excuse to attack then they are part of the problem they claim to think is the problem. A film with this sort of thing in it set in 1937 has to be criticized for it otherwise it ain't an honest critique of the film. Still a good film though despite it. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yes, I was perhaps a bit over dramatic there, but as I really enjoy your channel it saddened me a little to see a couple of folks misinterpret your intentions, in my view, so I felt I should say something. If you’d like me to delete the comment to keep things more positive here in the comments section, as they should be for such a nice channel, I’d be happy to do it. Thanks for your great videos - I always look forward to watching a new one.
@@cranp4764 Nothing to worry about at all Craig. We're all entitled to an opinion on anything. A couple of people are a little perplexed that I don't like the modern penchant for trying to re-write history and that's all. John.
Great review, John! really enjoyed this one!
My local store didn't have a 4K copy of DOTN which is a shame since I was very excited to purchase it, but I saw up on top of the shelf there was a copy of "Twin Peaks: the television collection" which I have been looking for, for about 6 months and apparently that was one of the 3 copies left in sydney.
But I will definitely purchase this disc because I haven't seen the film yet and also want to see it in the best possible quality.
That super 8 feature of DOTN 1978 looks amazing, makes me think how well you have managed to keep all the reels in order and place!
Have a great day, John! I'm having a nice cup of tea at the moment.
We've just had the first cup of tea of the day (always the best) so we're set up for the day now. Currently responding to all the overnight comments whilst catching up on Keith and John's live stream from a few night's ago when I was in the home cinema watching Death on the Nile. The 1978 Death on the Nile is undoubtedly the better film but this one is a different approach and the 65mm photography is beautiful at times where it's left untouched by any computer graphics.
Well done for finding Twin Peaks. I've never watched it but maybe I will sometime soon if I get some time.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I have just finished filming a new video and hope to edit it today, I have not been able to upload for a while since I have caught covid twice now, which isn't the best. But now I should be more protected since my body may have been able to fight it off a bit more, who knows.
Twin Peaks is certainly a great show, the color palette is so cozy and its so well done.
have a great day, enjoy your cup of tea
@@ClarkTeddles You've just had the Omicron strain of Covid-19 then Clark so that should be the end of that then. My theory is that Covid will now become the fifth common cold Coronavirus that goes around every year and won't be the problem it has been over the past two years because so many of us have natural immunity to it having been previously infected. But just like the four common colds we'll get re-exposed to it every few years which will keep our immunity levels up to insure we are not at risk of serious illness again. If enough of us have immunity levels from natural infection it will act as protection for the more vulnerable people in the world. Lesson over. Good luck with putting the new video together. John.
Great review John as always to think you were only watching this film 8 weeks ago at the ODEON in 70mm and now you have your own copy this proves commercial Cinema is just a shop window for the home market! Re it being shot on 65mm for 70 mm Cinema release I just don't see the point really only about half a dozen Cinemas are equipped for 70mm and 90% of the Original Cinema Projectionists have left the industry or made redundant when awful DIGITAL Projection came in over 10 years ago its makes me wonder if they had to call in some of the original Projectionists because I'm sure most now only know how to push a button on a Digital Projector not a clue on lacing up REAL FILM! Loved your comments re your 8mm Full Feature and doing your change overs took me back to my Cinema Projectionist days back in the 70s Happy Days! -
Your comments re the 70 mm print being struck from a 4k Video Master WHAT! this is NOT REAL 70mm Presentation its just Video transferred to Film why would they do that cutting costs probably, that's why John it did not look as good as it should have at the ODEON Leicester Square on the screen - David Lean and Freddie Young would turn in their graves the thought of this! Your video tour by the way John of whats left of the Leicester Square Cinemas was great in my opinion they have ruined The ODEON from what it was back in the 80s to modern looking the seating every thing about it just not the lovely old ODEON style. And may i say the Original "Death On The Nile" from 1978 and Stellar Cast and real Egyptian locations, Jack Cardiffs stunning photography 35mm! and even the great Nino Rota Score just puts this remake in the shade I'm afraid to say! Keep Up The Good Work John always a pleasure watching your videos! - Mark - ex Cinema Projectionist - Wallasey.
What a great post Mark - thank you! You have put it into words perfectly with regard to cinema now just being a shop window for the home market and I fear that the home market the studios want is streaming so picture quality in those cinemas that will survive (and I fear there may not be very many of them) will continue to decline. The 4K video to 65mm negative suspicion I worked out from what I was looking at in the Odeon does seem to be correct but if someone does come out of the woodwork to tell me otherwise I'll mention it in a future video. It may actually be a little worse than coming from a 4K video because so much of the film appears to have gone through computer animation touch-ups and that means all those sequences are most likely to have been output at 2K. Having said all this, the clarity of the 65mm does scale down and then back up so I suspect that right from the start having the 70mm prints struck for the few cinemas around the world that can still screen it was a compromise as budgeting for editing on film might have added a few thousand pounds to the cost. Actually it might have added tens of thousands more, I really don't know. You'd think that a budget of about £65m could have incorporated editing the original negative but when you consider that so much had to go through a computer was there any point? Irrespective of all this, it still looks pretty darned good and is one of the best quality 4K discs in my collection so they didn't get it too badly wrong I suppose.
The 1978 film is better but that did not surprise me a jot! And the Odeon is actually rather nice Mark. I don't know how they can make it pay with so few seats but I suspect it's being used as some sort of loss leader to promote the Odeon chain as a whole.
John.
Great review as always 👍
Thank you Simon. John.
Looking forward to watching this over the weekend John. I'll be back with comments then! I also bought the BFIs new 4K edition of The Proposition, a film I haven't seen before so fingers crossed should be a good Easter weekend.
Oh The Proposition is a fabulous, violent western Ian. Different to anything else ever made perhaps. I've had it on DVD since it was first released and I think you're going to like it. Same with Death on the Nile which is so damned good to look at most of the time that any potential negatives can be forgiven. John.
Great video, recently you've popped up on my list to watch. You've delivered another sub! Great review and like how your explain the difference of 70mm film conversion along with your childhood memories. 📽🎞
Thank you Joe. I started this channel almost two years ago because I couldn't find anyone able to talk about film in order to explain why some disc releases look better than others. I seem to have been quite successful so far. John.
@@moviecollector5920 cant wait for more of the upcoming big releases and like your honesty of what makes the film work and no so etc. Keep up the reviews and historic facts of the love of film :)
Afternoon John. Got to agree with you on everything you said about the film. The dancing seemed completely incongruous to me and the CGI do not look good to me at all. Unfortunately I didn't watch it on 4K but on Disney+, I be interested to see what your views would be on the Disney+ version comparing picture and sound quality of the disc to streaming. I'll probably pick up the 4K when the price comes down. I preferred Murder On The Orient Express. The original film is a beauty , it was interesting to see the 8mm of it. Hope all's well.
Evening Steve. I agree about Orient Express being the better film, no doubt about that. The CGI in this one may be the rear screen projection being confused for computer animation. It looked realistic in 70mm and it looks realistic here too but I do know what Egypt looks like on film owing to the Super 8 I shot there and it does sometimes look like the beautiful sun soaked orange portrayed in this film. However, there's a deleted scene that has the rear projection in place but it clearly had to go through a computer as there are unfinished elements to it. It is therefore possible that the rear projection shots may all have had to go through a computer but I don't know if that means those shots are therefore CGI. What it probably does tell us is that the 65mm film put into the computer came back out at a lowly 2K and that would explain the compromises with the 70mm prints.
John.
Nice video again John, I'll have to add both movies to my shopping list on my next visit to HMV. When I saw the the original Death On The Nile at a very young age it was responsible for adding Simon MacCorkindale to my growing list of favourite actors. Godfather Part III Coda for me this evening John, I watched Part II last weekend and I have to say its another cracking 4K Disc.
Simon MacCorkindale died too young. A great actor. So many of them in that 1978 film were at the top of their game.
As for The Godfather films, I must spin the LaserDiscs again to see if I've grown up enough to fully appreciate them. So many reports have come in of the quality of the new 4K release that I would like to be able to take a look.
John.
Agatha Christie reluctantly agreed to casting Finney as Poirot she would have hated Ustinov as Poirot but she died 2 years before Death on the Nile was made and she certainly wouldn’t have approved of Branagh in the part I think she would have accepted Suchet but she never intended that character to ever be seen on screen and she was vocal about this. She also left him out of her plays including Murder on the Nile on which Death on the Nile was based the detective in the play was called Canon Pennyfather.
I never knew any of that. I think Agatha Christie was wrong but I can understand her feelings. What works in a book doesn't necessarily work on screen. I never cared for the Poirot television series owing to the portrayal by David Suchet. Branagh is excellent but if anyone loves Suchet probably won't like him in the role. John.
What's up John you film connoisseur... I have mixed feelings about buying this one... I noticed the older and hopefully wiser I become, I am more selective of what movies to add to my collection. One of many reasons I sub to this channel is your honesty regarding the movie you are reviewing and this was a great example! Carry on soldier!
I seem to have upset one or two by saying that I didn't like the woke bits of this one which is a shame but there was no way to review it honestly and not mention that because it does spoil things a little. However, when a film looks this good I can forgive it. It isn't as good as the 1978 film but nothing was ever going to match that so it had to be different and they certainly put everything into this one. John.
Thanks for the review. You have convinced me to stick with the original, a film I really enjoy revisiting from time to time
Nothing can match that 1978 film and that is a major reason why this film took a different path. It was never going to be as good but it does look even better than that original film. That's the beauty of 65mm film... when it's not been put through a computer for additional animation! John.
i totally agree with you that it doesn't look great. personally i was shocked at how bad the green screen was and some of the special effects. the movie is OK but nothing i'll ever watch again. thanx for the review. cheers
Most of it is rear projection Funk. But it seems there was computer animation going on in quite a lot of that too which hasn't really done it any favours. But it is still one of the sharpest discs on the market and the colour is among the best so far. John.
Hi John,
I was just rewatching this review after seeing this film last night and was curious as to how much the super 8 feature of Death on the nile '78 would have cost back then.
I've been checking ebay, weekly, to see if there are any good deals on some super 8 releases, but non so far. Ive been cleaning my projector before and after each time I use it and seems that its not adding any more damage to the prints.
have a great day, John!
I think the 1978 Death on the Nile Super 8 feature was £168 but it might have been £148. It was thereabouts anyway. A major investment back then but it proved to be a good long term investment as it's been run many, many times. It's rather faded now which is sad but I'll have a play with it next time I run it as it may be possible to minimize the apparent fade with a light blue filter. It won't be as good as new but it should still be eminently watchable with a bit of blue added back in as it's been going a bit pink.
I was thinking about your report of film grain on your system and it could be that there's a digital enhancement setting somewhere that is causing it. I really don't recall being aware of film grain and because it was a 65mm shoot any grain should have been minimal. John at Mondo Chelloveck Movies reported fairly excessive grain in parts of Murder on the Orient Express which we looked for and looked for but couldn't find. He had the same thing with Top Gun and we simply just didn't have the same thing.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I purchased Top gun on 4 yesterday and found quite excessive grain. So that proves your point further about how everyone's system is different.
I didn't expect that super 8 feature of Death on the nile to cost so much, but I'm sure it was worth it for the memories!
I have sent you an email about where I can obtain a certain style 35mm film splicer for an affordable price. seems the only ones I can find are 500 dollars on ebay.
have a great day!
@@ClarkTeddles I don't know what is causing film grain to appear on some systems and not others Clark but it's likely to be a digital 'enhancement' that's causing it. I don't know if you'd upset the rest of your family by playing with all the settings but that's what I'd be doing. If 'sharpen' is up high on either the player or the telly then that could be it as that feature sharpens everything including things you don't want enhanced such as grain structure that should be invisible. I'll reply to your email about a 35mm splicer in a moment so stand by.
Thanks for the review John....... must try and get around to watching this.....
I hope you like it when you do see it Roy. Even if you don't, it's so good to look at that I think any movie enthusiast will enjoy the visual quality on display. John.
I wonder if the lesser quality result vs Orient Express has been affected by Disney’s takeover of Fox, as this is one of the few Fox produced movies to actually get a 4k release since Disney’s takeover? A lot of the Fox movies seem to be getting left by the wayside with only particular choices getting the 4k release.
Have spoken with you before on the Orient Express review abut my issues with both of these movies and my issues with Branagh’s direction - I do feel he did make a stronger attempt to be cinematic with this movie, but still I think falls short of his previous cinematic brilliance shown in movies such as the original Thor movie. I think there are numerous problems with changes made to the movie, as you mentioned certain woke elements seem to have crept in, but also the opening war scene and epilogue regarding Poirot’s moustache, which felt, like the boiled egg scenario in Orient Express, like a poor attempt to explain Poirot’s eccentricities, and as a result dumbed down the character’s excellent in spotting attention to detail. Certainly Branagh’s trying to put his own stamp on the character, but it’s kind of like trying to give the audience a peek behind the curtain at a magic trick, unnecessary and lessens the character instead of strengthening him. I’m more interested in what happened to his love as a result of that opening than anything else. Also, as a Brit, wondering if you were as distracted by the on-screen pairing of Jennifer Saunders and Dawn French as I was, a strange casting choice to have both in the same movie as it’s a screen pairing that a lot with history that is very hard to not see every tie you see the two of them together.
I rather liked French and Saunders together in this but we certainly didn't need it explained to us that they were playing lovers. If that had have been left alone then it would have only left a couple of minor offences. I did like the implied upcoming relationship between Salome Otterbourne and Poirot though, it's just a shame that wasn't the only element of the whole Hollywood box ticking exercise that was left in. I like Branagh's interpretation of Poirot but no one will ever match Peter Ustinov as far as I'm concerned. I could never get into the television series despite trying several times but that was because I didn't like Poirot who wasn't the Poirot I knew. David Suchet may have been more like Agatha Christie's interpretation for all I know but I didn't find him entertaining or interesting and Branagh is both of those things. I haven' seen Thor and it's unlikely I will anytime soon. Thor was always a minor comic book character and as much as I enjoyed those stories in one of the Marvel weekly comics I never bothered purchasing a bespoke Thor comic. If I'd have been 40 years younger I expect I'd be watching all these big screen comic book adaptations but as much as I still love Batman and Spider-Man (and to a lesser extent Superman) I don't get particularly enthused for the current film adaptations of those characters.
Death on the Nile is a very entertaining film as far as I'm concerned. Just like the train in Orient Express they actually built the boat. Unfortunately it was too big a prop to be able to use an LED wall as they did with Orient Express but I thought the rear projection was outstanding and replicated the look and light of Egypt very well. Most think they're watching green screen effects with the backgrounds animated in using a computer but they actually shot most of it live. However, it seems that a lot of those shots still had to go through a computer and that probably helped in reducing the overall image quality!!!
John.
@@moviecollector5920 interesting that they used rear projection, I do remember when seeing scenes where they were walking along the upper level of the boat in daylight, thinking it looked like green screen. Either way, it did distract from the movie.
@@ahdvd It probably was green screen for some or much of it but sometimes there seemed to be a sort of pink glow on the rear screens all around the boat. Perhaps that was how they later inserted the background plates the second unit shot in Egypt. One day maybe we'll find out one way or the other.
John.
Something to take note of on Nolan's productions, while they are still finished with a true spliced negative, anything with digital effects will obviously be a filmout from 8K digital files. I personally didn't notice a difference between the two when I saw Interstellar on 15/70. The black hole was of course done purely digitally, and it's one of the most striking images I've ever seen in a theater.
Good point. Perhaps the computer animation for Mr. Nolan's films really is being rendered at 8K which would explain why those sequences look so good. It also explains why he does so much of it practically on set. What we need is a BFI IMAX all day screening of Nolan's IMAX films. I'd buy that for a dollar!
John.
Nice review ,thank you 👍
Thank you Michael. Hope all is well up there at the nation's film mecca. John.
Good review John , i will have to check this one out .
I hope you like it Paul. You should certainly like the way it looks. John.
John, thank you for your review, The 1978 version will always remain one of the best made, best cast Agatha Christie film adaptations for me, and the film which made me a fan of the author. When I heard there would be a new version I was excited, because the ingenious plot, if well handled, could make it extraordinary, but alas, from all accounts, the makers of this new version overplayed their hand and missed the opportunity to create a definitive classic. I always follow your advice, will I break down and get it? - I dont know... Michael - SA.
No film was ever going to match the 1978 film but this one surpasses it in one important regard - image quality. The definition and the Techniolor-like picture make it something special on its own. It's too modern to be a classic but it's so good to look at that I don't really care. Some of the 65mm shots are unspoiled by computer animation and that alone should mean you'll like it Michael. I hope so anyway. John.
I'll stick with David Suchet as Poirot. I Just cannot take dear Ken seriously. Suchet on the other hand fits the bill perfectly.
I could never get on with David Suchet but then I loved Peter Ustinov in the role and as good as Kenneth Branagh is no one is ever likely to match Ustinov. I never did get into the television series probably because of that fabulous 1978 film. John.
I found the atmos mix of the film to be very well done. Like you said this isn’t a comicbook blockbuster with guns or fighting but it has some excellent sound design.
On the boat during a certain spinning death; I found the mix to be excellent. Sounded just like a real boat with people walking around all you having the hiss of the mechanics all mostly accurate.
Just a great cinema experience in my opinion for what they did with such a spacious sound space.
I ordered the steelbook from zavvi so I hope it gets to me in one piece. I have my slipcover for orient express destroyed in the post. Thankfully the discs and case was fine.
I thought the sound was excellent as usual but I thought I 'd point out that it's not a superhero film because Orient Express gets criticized for not having a modern action film soundtrack by some. John.
@@moviecollector5920 such an odd critique in my opinion.
Always see runs of people saying how they like films to have new atmos or dts x audio but I still think a good mono mix or stereo track beats out even the best 5.1 or 7.1 tracks because limits help to build suspense better. That said I’d be a liar if I said a good atmos or dts x wasn’t revolutionary when I first heard it
@@Thecatdrums3 Recently we ran a 4K disc that had a new Dolby Atmos soundtrack and a 5.1 but the dialogue was indiscernible at times. Switching to Dolby Stereo (AKA ProLogic or 2.0 Stereo) sorted it out and was actually the best soundtrack overall. Original is sometimes best. I think it was Robocop so that will be detailed in my review if I've got the right film.
John.
I look forward so much to your videos ,have you the Critereon bluray of Its a mad mad mad mad world ? i think it was shot on 70mm film , i watched it a few weeks ago , i forgot how funny it is .
I don't have Mad World but I have seen it and yes, it was released 70mm but passed off as Cinerama which it wasn't. Anything shot 65mm for 70mm release will look fabulous so they're the Blu-rays and 4K UHD Blu-rays to keep a look out for.
If you want to see something really special the two genuine Cinerama feature films How The West Was Won and Tales of the Brothers Grimm are available on Blu-ray and whereas I haven't seen Brothers Grimm yet I can be sure of how good that one is owing to how it was filmed, which was a marvel worth seeing in itself.
John.
Nice review, it's great to hear from someone with so much knowledge, enthusiasm and love for film/ cinema.
I loved Kenneth Branagh MotOE, one of my best looking 4K films in my collection.
I don't have a projector but on Sony 800 and 60 " Qled it looks gorgeous and is one of my go to reference 4K.
I will probably get this even though it's hitting 60% on review sites, after all it's personal and both Oblivion and Passengers 4K were stunning yet Rotten Tomatoes didn't agree 🤔.
Thanks again 👍
I have Oblivion and Passengers on Blu-ray Rikaard and they're fabulous on Blu-ray so how anyone could claim they're not up there with the best of 4K is a mystery to me. Orient Express is the best so far because it was shot on 65mm and that 65mm is modern, fine grain film stock and therefore superior to the 65mm of old. Death on the Nile doesn't quite match it because of the way it had to be filmed which involved a lot of rear projection and much computer work as a result of that (they only shot second unit in Egypt, hence the need for the back projection). But it's still a great looking film and one of the very best so far. Anything shot in large format film is better than 35mm or video, it's as simple as that. We talk about the quality of the 4K transfer but it's not so much the transfer as it is the quality that we're starting off with.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 agreed guess that's why hateful eight looks so good,wow the days of intermission and a program to sit with friends and chew over the 1st half.
I'm desperately wanting
Lawrence of Arabia ?, Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's only available in 4k in an OOP Columbia box set🤔 ,I think that would do well as a 4k release , fingers crossed 👍
@@rikaardyyz3039 Lawrence of Arabia is coming out as a separate release in June. Hopefully enough people have seen my videos now to be able to expect it to be among the best 4K releases so far owing to its 65mm origin. Maybe some other UA-cam reviewers will start to understand that too. John.
@@moviecollector5920 that Is GOOD news.
One of my favourites, got it on the " blu ray Sony special edition, I guess what most folks have along with Stand by me and On the Waterfront.
Roll on June 🙂👍
Good review of the technical aspects of the film.
When we walked out at the end of the film theatre, we all agreed it looked wonderful, however the telling of the story fell far short of the 1978 version. It was a pity and a mystery, as the wonderful look of the ship with Branagh’s acting and Directing credentials should have made so much more fun.
I think it may be better than many of us think Jim but it had to be different to the 1978 film and that was always going to work against it. Perfection cannot be improved on and that film was as close to perfect as anything I've ever seen. But I have seen it dozens of times and know every single frame far too well. To be fair to this new version, it's so great to look at that I can forgive it any flaws. But I could have done without the modernizing woke nonsense so I had to mention it. John.
I do miss the days where you had to wait an eternity for a home release. Liking your new media library backdrop.
I was just thinking the same thing yesterday. It's strange to see a film at the cinema and then within a couple of months be able to enjoy it at home. Actually, it's ridiculous. It's devaluing cinema at a time when we need cinemas to thrive more than ever. John.
For me in the cinema the opening sequence in the club was visually the highlight. It reached a quality it didn't seem to again. In particular the colours, and the overall organic paint like aspect of these. This all looked like a film from 30-40 years ago, but in it's best quality. Hope that comes across on the 4K disc.
It does come across on the 4K disc James. The nighclub sequence looks like pure a 65mm transfer which it probably is. The entrance of Gal Gadot will grab everyone's attention but there is nothing that looks quite as impressive as the wailing wall sequence in Orient Express. I think the 4K disc is more suitable than the 70mm print as that was a bit disappointing considering it was a bit of a faux 70mm but that's not the case with the 4K as the movie was apparently mastered only at 4K - and hence why the 70mm was a little underwhelming. John.
Movie Collette....... Hello again and greetings from Munich, like in the case of the original Agatha Christie Film Nr. 1 (Orient Express), I found the second adaption film (1979) + 2021 second film adaptation remake Death on the Nile, as a film and as a story and as a location much more interesting than the boring Orient Express film, okay like somemay not have been historically accurate but the film is a lot more entertaining than murder on the orient express including two beautiful actresses i think the reason the film wasn't shot in egypt is because of the israeli gal gadot! I also love the original with Peter Ustinov as i already said because of all original locations maybe because I've been to Egypt several times
I think that 1978 film was a big reason why I wanted to go to Egypt Jim. We actually stayed in the same Cataract Hotel which was rather nice. We even got taken up to the suite that Agatha Christie stayed in when she was there.
You may well be right about Gal Gadot. Maybe hiring her meant there was no budget left for location shooting! John.
Excelent review as always
Ta velly muchly. John.
I haven’t seen this one yet, personally I find the idea of a remake to be a bit pointless, because Death on the Nile (1978) as you said is so perfect.
I did see Orient Express in cinemas back in 2017 (again, a little pointless for me because I love the 1974 version as well, but I enjoyed it nonetheless) and that looked fabulous, so I don’t doubt this would look absolutely phenomenal on 4K.
Thanks as always for your videos, highly informative as well as interesting.
Thanks Andy. I think you'd enjoy this new version simply because so much of it does look really good. Egypt in this quality is always worth looking at but the computer animation does spoil quite a few scenes. Given how the rest of it looks though I can put up with that. The 1978 version is still in a class of its own.
John.
Hi John - thanks for another informative video. Like you I was disappointed with the 70mm screening at Leicester Square. It wasn’t quite “right”.
I don’t have the disc and I don’t think I enjoyed the film enough to buy it but may pick it up when the price drops.
I have watched it though - on Disney+. It’s steamed in 4K Dolby Vision with Dolby Atmos sound and looked and sounded pretty good.
I picked up The Godfather set recently and it would be great to hear your views on that some time in the future.
Bank holiday weekend now so I’m sure Ustinov will be donning his moustache on one of the channels here for my annual catch up of his version.
Take care and have a great Easter
Greetings Brian. I think the film may be better than I've given it credit for but the way it was made rendered much of the 65mm shoot sub-standard as it had to go through a computer to have animation added. There's no way that could have been put back out at the quality to match the original so maybe it wasn't viable to strike 70mm prints from the negative because there was hardly any of it left untouched. Seems feasible.
I really fancy watching the 1978 film again now. I think that one's a masterpiece but there was no point in trying to remake it because it just wouldn't be possible now. Where the 65mm worked in this new one made the cost of the disc worth it even if it's not all quite up to the same standard.
As for The Godfather, I don't like the films. I have the first two on LaserDisc and I must give them a second watch sometime to see if Iike them now I'm older. I could see they were great films I just didn't like the subject matter.
John.
Loved the first on 4k so I’ll have to get this at some point. This is probably my favorite Poirot story but obviously not my favorite version of it.
The 1978 film is untouchable but this version does have a sumptuous look to it. Many think they're watching computer animation but it's mainly back projection. John.
Thanks for sharing this review John,I don’t have this movie but have Murder on the Orient Express on 4K and love the movie which I’ve watched twice or 3 times on my Panasonic FZ952 55 inch OLED tv,I love all your reviews.
Morning Paul. This one ain't as good but it's another stunner to look at. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thanks John I do like Murder On The Orient Express, though I might watch that one sometime down the line.
Having just picked up and seen the film Death On The Nile ... On first watch, i enjoyed it more than Murder on the Orient Express. Perhaps I need to go back and give that first one another go.
However some of the use of green screen sticks out quite a bit and yes the use of movie licence is a little heavy in parts on this one too. But overall I watched it from begin to end without moving my attention and enjoyed it.
The green screen nature of much of it wasn't so obvious here Carl nor at the Odeon Leicester Square so it's possibly a foible of colour displays on different video projectors or tellies. The 70mm print at the Odeon wasn't what I regard as a genuine 70mm print as it was struck from the 4K video master (what a ridiculous thing to do!) but it did appear to still have the superior colour and density of film but also that unmistakable natural look. I try to duplicate the look of film on all my equipment so that's possibly why the green screens didn't make themselves as obvious on my system. To be fair to the film makers though, it wouldn't have been safe to take the entire cast and crew to Egypt these days so the second unit/green screen solution had to be done.
John.
I’ve not seen this yet. Waiting until my home theater is complete but I’m disappointed to hear your “woke route” comment. I miss the days when movies were just plain old entertaining without having to be preachy or “woke”. That’s the plus of having a proper home cinema. I can revisit films that were made before the dreadful woke word was coined. PS I’d love more videos about your actual room. Cheers from Florida.
The woke business isn't too bad Chris so being forewarned you may find that it's barely noticeable. I believe Hollywood demands a bit of woke nonsense for a film to be considered for awards. Pathetic if true. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I believe you’re correct and yes, that is unfortunate.
I really did feel that the pretty obvious (but sadly necessary) extensive green screen work let this down a little. With "Orient Express" you really felt the characters were on a snowbound railway - here it just felt like they were in a studio rather than in Egypt. I thought the bookends (concerning the mustache) were the best part! Thanks for the review as always,John.
Evening Dan. In Orient Express they were able to use a massive LED wall to screen the passing countryside as the train travelled the tracks. For Nile then had to fill a much larger area as it was a massive boat so they had to use rear projection. A lot of what appears to be green screen may not be but one of the deleted scenes gives away that they were also doctoring the rear projection in a computer after the scene was shot. It was clever film making but the copious computer animation dumbed down the first class 65mm quality which was a terrible shame. If the world had have been different this film might have been shot in Egypt but more likely the budget required that it was made the way it was. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Still a fine film. I've just ordered the Ustinov version from 1978 on blu-ray. I've definitely seen another adaptation at some point but my memory is unclear. Was there a third version with David Suchet, perhaps? Do you mind if I ask how you organise your disc collection? Certainly not alphabetically from what I can see behind you in your videos!
@@danhardcastle There was a television David Suchet version. If I ever saw it I've completely forgotten it but I never could get into that series. As for how the discs are organized, they go on the shelf in the order they've been watched. I've separated the DVDs from the Blu-rays since we moved (don't really know why I did that now) but overall it means that we know roughly when we last watched a title without having to keep a list. I have to do some regular jiggery pokery to keep room on the top left shelf to slap the latest on there. A disc never gets shelved until it's watched otherwise I know what would happen - it would never get watched. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I see - funnily enough I've just re-integrated what few DVDs I have left back into my collection. I have a "to watch" pile and once they've been viewed they go into my alphabetical racking. Space is actually starting to become something of a problem - that's definitely one advantage that digital ownership has!
@@danhardcastle You could always put some of your lesser watched films on spindles and get rid of the cases. I did that with a bunch of my DVDs years ago and I haven't yet felt the urge to get any of them out to watch again. A few hundred on spindles and a lot of space is saved for more treasured titles.
John.
Finally picked this up. Brand New for $9! Also got Bohemian Rhapsody for $7. Also, Species, a guilty pleasure of mine I upgraded from dvd., I’m going to need a bigger boat I’m mean shelve.
Some outstanding bargains there Gary. We watched 'Skyscraper' last night which cost us 33p. That was only the DVD though and unfortunately it's not a particularly good quality DVD so not to be recommended. Wouldn't recommend the film either actually. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I have Skyscraper on 3D Blu-ray. Not much of a movie, but some great 3D. Most dvds are unwatchable on the projector, but I still have my full Pioneer dvd changer which holds 300, just can’t part with it.
Think I'll give this one a miss, but thanks for the entertaining review again, John.
You're welcome Doug. John.
Great review. I’ve got it sat next to the player ready to go. Like your good self I loved MOTOE and think the 4K is lovely, it’s a stunner on my 77” OLED. While it sounds like this isn’t quite up to par I’m still happy to watch it and have it as part of the collection.
In Orient Express the scenes out of the train were an LED wall. For Nile an LED wall would not have been big enough so back projection was used and I think some of those scenes are being mistaken for CGI. These effects look beautiful on our system but others are telling me they look fake. I think much comes down to television settings and therefore ensuring all digital 'enhancements' are off. So that said, I hope you really enjoy it Martin. John.
@@moviecollector5920 hopefully they don’t stick out like a sore thumb. Truth be told, since getting a larger screen (from a 46” LED TV to the 77”) my partner and I have noticed so much more in films. SFX are one thing that seem to jar quite a bit compared to previous viewings. But for me those that were obvious and really clashed and looked horrible didn’t draw me out of the film and as I’ve got older I’ve found myself more forgiving and just enjoyed the film for what it was.
@@MartinPearman Death on the Nile looks to me like it's been graded to resemble epic Technicolor productions of the past. The rich, exaggerated colours in those Technicolor films did look a little surreal but a modern audience is not really used to that look. This could be why some are mistaking rear projection for CGI but having said that, there is a deleted scene with apparent back projection and where this scene was clearly expected to be finished in a computer as you can see some of the elements that have been left behind. It's a shame there isn't more information about how the film was made as I think it would help us all enjoy it even more. I appreciate the efforts that go into making films and this one looks like it was more of an achievement than I realize.
John.
When the Christopher Nolan films were on disks they were shown in there proper 70mm aspect ratio as with Murder this is not so it was not scanned from the 65mm negative
It came from the 4K master Neil. So did the 70mm prints it seems. But so many shots appear to have gone through computer animation work I'm beginning to understand why even if it does mean the pure 70mm shots have been downscaled to render them almost 35mm quality... which is still better than video so it could have been worse!
John.
What disc player are you using?
Two Panasonic's: a 300 series on the telly and a 400 on the projector. John.
I must confess I haven’t seen the original is that available on UHD?
It's available on Blu-ray Aisback. You should have a great time with that. Sadly all the Super 8 prints are sold out now!
John.
Hello John, excellent review as always I’m glad to hear it’s a top 10 4K I saw this on the cinema in A Dolby theater and it looked really good there was a couple panning shot that looked blurry can’t wait to see if it’s that way on the 4K. I have to differ with you I am much more of a Finney fan than I am a Ustinov but when you consider David Niven as a sidekick I consider it a wash.I wished I would’ve seen this in 70 mm to see if I saw what you saw I was in Chicago the opening weekend and the music box theater screens 70 mm quite often and 35 it was built in 1929 and it’s really a cool old Theater really ornate really something to see but unfortunately they weren’t showing death on the Nile. Been really happy with my Sony OLED I was a little concerned but it would look enough like film well thank goodness you can turn off the processing and it’s amazing the difference The custom mode we’re almost all the processing is shut off and the color set proper it really does look like film or at least The best that digital can look like film, vs. The dynamic mode which bumps up the color and turns a lot of processing back on by default it looks so bad I can’t describe it . It’s amazing that one television can produce two completely different pictures anyways your theater is really looking good I’m still in the process of building mine it’s quite the undertaking as I make progress I will let you know have a great one as always cheers👍
The motion blur is still there John. I wasn't aware of any of that on the 70mm print but nor should I have been as that was a film and this is a video. Albert Finney was great in the role of Poirot but he wouldn't have been able to carry off the humour that was in the script for the 1978 film - well, not like Ustinov did. It helped having David Niven alongside to take the mickey at every opportunity and Ustinov not to notice any of it because his character was so full of himself.
Great news that your new OLED is setting the world alight. Exciting to learn that all the digital jiggery pokery can be turned off to maximise the image quality. I've told countless people to do that over the past two years, particularly when they've claimed there is film grain in a film that is really fine grain on my system. This new version of Death on the Nile should look fabulous on your new telly. We had a look at the Blu-ray on our 40 inch 4K telly last night and you'd swear that was a 4K and one of the best you'd seen so it just illustrates how good video has become these days. We're all spoiled now when you think of how awful VHS looked and yet we put up with it.
The Chicago Music Box Theatre sounds like my sort of cinema.
John.
Would you consider doing a home theatre recommendation for beginners?
I think it would be quite useful for people who get overwhelmed by reading reviews that have pros & cons or scared of forking out a lot of money incase they get the wrong hardware.
That would go out of date fairly quickly Floyd but the one thing I always tell everyone is don't get conned into purchasing an expensive screen, just paint a wall if you have a large enough wall available. For the rest of it, a video projector costing as little as a few hundred pounds for a starter home cinema can give amazing results. 4K projectors start at about £800 now and they give surprisingly good image quality. For sound, don't get fooled into thinking more channels means better sound because you will get wonderful sound from a stereo amplifier costing less than £100 and a pair of speakers for another £100 or even £50 if there's a sale on. That would give anyone a start for not a lot - don't forget a Blu-ray or 4K player though - and any aspect of it can then be changed down the line as your knowledge grows of how it all works.
But if anyone ever wants my opinion on something they're thinking about I do try to respond to all messages on here.
John.
@@moviecollector5920
I was thinking of buying a Sony UBP-X700 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player as it’s been recommended by a few on various groups, but in two minds because of the reviews where it either lacks certain capabilities, or something else.
So would be good to have some solid advice. All technology dates as soon as you buy something,
Look at blu ray discs themselves. You buy one & in a few months time the same company (ahem Arrow) releases the same film but with an even better remastering but on a 4K disc.
@@floyd75dylan I'll be sticking to Panasonic Floyd as they were the only manufacturer who got to grips with Sony's own disc format and they do seem to be able to produce 4K UHD players that actually do what they are supposed to. When I get another one it will be the top of the line Panny. As for Arrow, bear in mind that they remastered films such as Robocop in 4K years ago to issue them in the best quality for Blu-ray. They couldn't be sure up until recently that producing a 4K disc would sell as the market was so small but that's not the case any longer. Well, that's my defence of them anyway but I think it's largely correct.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I must admit I do own & use a 14 year old Panasonic plasma TV that is still working, but I am looking to upgrade because that thing is not going to die any time soon.
My interest in the Sony model was by recommendations on various social media groups, the downside is that the Sony player doesn’t support HDR10+.
@@floyd75dylan Keep the telly perhaps but look at a projector. The best of both worlds then. But don't get fooled into believing you have to spend lots of money on a white screen as a painted white wall will do the job - although putting a black surround around the image will make the biggest difference and this can be done with card and hooks if necessary. John.
Most discs are based on source material that have no subtitles for foreign language scenes. The subtitles are generated by the player from data encoded on the disc. This means that, for example, if a French speaking person watches the film, they will see French subtitles for the English part and no subtitles for the French part. It also means that the quality of the subtitles is a solely a function of the player and has nothing to do with film.
The subtitles I mentioned were built into the 70mm print. Something went wrong so it was important for me to see that they were in focus on the disc. They are not optional subtitles, they are a part of the film. Something went awry with the production of the 70mm prints but I can't tell you what that was.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I don’t have the disc for this film. But it is available in 4K HDR on Disney+. I would be very surprised if the streaming version derived from a different digital file from the disc. If I select French subtitles on the streaming version, there are no subtitles at all during the opening scenes.
@@judgebeeb1967 I think everything was done from a 4K master. It's easy to put subtitles in on video so what you have is the same 4K master with the english subtitles removed because the characters are talking French. It does mean that the whole video has to be compiled again with the subtitles removed and that would take quite a few hours but that's the only change. No doubt different re-compiles went on for each country that speaks a different language so that they had the correct subtitles in that opening war sequence.
John.
Would love to see from you a series listing movies you would consider worthy of a 4K release that are maybe forgotten, lost or underappreciated. Maybe highlight one explaining your reasoning why. I remember watching a feature about collectors searching for out of print films that have only had a VHS release not even DVD or Blu Ray just VHS .
The trouble is that I have most of my all-time favourite films on Super 8, 16mm or 35mm and I usually don't purchase them on 4K as a result. But I am trying to think of ways to produce a few top ten videos in the future so it's a good suggestion and thank you for that. John.
I'm with you with this film John wasn't keen but I am hard to please with Agatha Christie films I was brought up on them my mum was and still is a massive Christie Fan I'm sure she still has all the paperbacks from decades ago. Great review as always
I think this film may be better than I realize but time will tell. The computer animation and the woke nonsense worked against it but I did still really enjoy it. I always love to see Egypt and it's never looked better than this really. John.
@@moviecollector5920 yeah Egypt is a amazing place. The computer animation totally took me out of the film tbh and I won't get started on the Woke stuff 🙄🙄🙄😳😳
@@moviecollector5920 just noticed they have done a 4k of Peter Cushings Docker Who films they look quite impressive from the Trailer
@@andylikesstuffchannel The films aren't very good though. Both of those films were feature releases on Super 8 from Walton Films who also did some 200ft cut downs for those of us who couldn't dream of splashing out on a feature at the time. The cut downs were really good as I recall. John.
Enjoyed this movie almost as much as the original. Wonderful scenery. Colors are great. Likely the way they explain the mustache.
It is a great looking movie Craig. I don't suppose Egypt has ever looked so good... except for the 1978 film perhaps but that wasn't shot 65mm. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Hi John. Given your obvious love for the 1978 film would you consider doing a video on it (Blu Ray and Super8)?
@@davidjames579 If I ever do a top ten favourite films David I think it will be included in that but there's not a big enough audience for these sort of films on their own. It will be interesting to see how this review of the new film does but I don't think it's going to be popular enough to justify the work I put into it. I did enjoy the process though as it forces me to really study a film rather than just watch and enjoy. John.
Great, love it. As usual.
Thank you Federico. John.
After your 65/70mm theatre review of DOTN, I was very interested your physical media review!
It's more impressive on video simply because even though the quality wasn't up to 70mm on film, it's still an amazing achievement to have something that looks this good on video. Shame that so many scenes had to go through a computer though. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Glad to hear it is better on disc, but of course as you rightly point out, that really shouldn't be the case. It is bad prints like the one you describe that only ignites the negatives about film and gives fuel to those that demonised traditional cinema in favour of digital.
But in saying that, patrons thought films were on discs when I was a projectionist in the late 90s, and couldn't understand when there was a problem and the film stopped, that I couldn't just "rewind the disc". Ignorance is bliss.
@@TroyUlysses If I am correct about the 70mm print coming from a 65mm negative that was struck from the 4K computer master file then the 70mm release did nothing to promote cinema to the public. Most would have looked at it and wondered what the fuss was about. To invest in the flagship product of cinema and cock it up should be considered a disaster but no one seems to care. To be fair, I don't think this one could have looked as good as 70mm of the past through all two hours simply because so much of it was doctored in computers. It was doomed because it couldn't be shot in Egypt given all the problems in the world.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I honestly think that they shot in England for convenience because of the large cast, or maybe scheduling was harder to take them to Africa, when they could instead drop in and out of the studio near London. Egypt may have been off the cards (although the David Suchet 2004 TV version shot there) but Morocco is used a lot as a stand-in, and Jordan and United Arab Emirates have both been used a lot in the likes of Blade Runner 2049, Dune and the recent Star Wars movies.
@@davidjames579 I should have said that the budget probably had the most bearing on where to shoot it David. I expect it was a compromise to shoot the cast in England but second unit in Egypt so the two could be married together in a computer. But taking a large cast to Egypt today maybe wouldn't get insurance. John.
Indeed murder on the orient express had moments where far distance background info had such sharp clarity, however although I much loved 50% of murder the other 50% appeared to be CGI or filters, when it was good it looked spectacular but the CG shots looked off and it was quite distracting, it appeared that some close up shots looked very revealing and film like whilst others looked smoothed out and almost cartoonish, its a frustrating transfer to say the least, however death on the Nile looked more faithful to film and none of the issues from murder were apparant here, or if they were they seed to flow better into the film. Not a massive lover of these films, I find them watchable but they don't make for repeat viewings in my opinion and therefore couldn't really recommend them
This is how I rate movies, too. A 6/10 rating means the movie held my interest all the way through, but not worth watching a second time -- something you watch to kill time, but not something to purchase.
Morning chaps. Make sure all digital 'enhancements' or off on telly or video projector and then you should find the image quality looks more like film which is often why some discs don't look quite as good as they should. There are plenty of computer animation sequences in Death on the Nile but many of what we think are CGI are actually rear projection. In Orient Express they were able to use an LED wall for the passing countryside from the train but I don't suppose there is an LED wall big enough to handle that from the boat in Nile and hence why massive rear projection was pressed into action. Also, the light in Egypt does often make the panorama look slightly unreal and they managed to capture that in this film despite much of it being shot in England. Quite an achievement.
John.
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 yeah another example of this I have watched very recently is Nightmare Alley, it looks absolutely stunning and isn't a bad film by any stretch, its just not interesting enough for me to give another watch and it seemed alot longer than 2.5 hours, not necc in a bad way, its certainly not one of Guillermo del Toros finest, such films as Pans Labyrinth and The Shape Of Water I can watch time and time again, this is because they are so engaging in story and their characters, as well as been beautiful visuals
I have the Orient Express on Blu-ray I wish I would have got it on 4K and now when you find 4K like on Amazon it's like 40 to $45 American but the Blu-ray is still very beautiful picture the death on the Nile I did get on 4K and it looks really good but I'm with you the Blu-ray Orient Express is beautiful and I can only imagine how it looks on 4K
Orient Express 4K disc has been selling for £10 over here recently Bryan. But the Blu-ray is so good it's only when you see the 4K you realize that things can get even better. It's the same with Death on the Nile. John.
Just watched it. Visually disappointing. History better in the Orient Express watched on the JVC RS540.
I really love you for a nice and interesting video
Thank you Heniek. I think it may be a better film than we're giving it credit for but it's possible the excess of computer animation proved to be too noticeable for us oldies. For the sequences that are untouched from the 65mm master negative it looks great so that makes it worth the price of admission, or rather, the cost of the disc. John.
its a good disc but doesn't make my top 10. good video
Too many computer animated scenes do spoil it somewhat Chris but overall it does fit in with the top batch in my collection. It may be about number 6 but I'd have to check them all again so bugger that! John.
this looks great but its already on disney plus…however that is only in Hd which is a bit strange .
Streaming just isn't the same S B. I think it's one of the best 4K discs so far too so quite a decent release really. John.
i just wish they'd shot more on location as the digital backgrounds look totally fake to me
They're not digital Erhard, they're back projection. Although it looks like many of the shots using rear projection did also go through a computer judging by the evidence in one of the deleted scenes but the point is they are not CGI, the second unit went out to Egypt to get those shots for the purpose. Orient Express used an LED wall for the same effect but I don't think there would be an LED wall big enough to cover the whole scope around the Karnak steamer so back projection was pushed into service. Egypt often has an otherworldly type of colour to it which is probably caused by a low sun causing the light to bounce off the sand. This film has that look so it may not be as fake as you think. I actually thought they did well to replicate that light on a set. John.
@@moviecollector5920
ah thank you, i didn't know that.
But i still think it looks kinda fake, not even close to real egypt i visited a few years ago.
Something is off and i can't tell what, maybe it's just the lightening they didn't get right
@@erhard9407 I did shoot in Egypt in very similar light to what they created in this film. It wasn't the same all the time but certainly in the early evening at the Cataract Hotel it seems almost identical to me. It's possibly the enhanced colour that looks a little unreal but I suspect the makers were going for a faux Technicolor appearance. I don't think Technicolor is possible without using Technicolor itself but they almost pulled it off. Audiences used to seek out Technicolor films so Kenneth Branagh might have felt like a 65mm shoot for a film like this was too good an opportunity not to go for that Technicolor look. There hasn't been a genuine Technicolor production made here since The Ladykillers and in the USA it was even before that. John.
Great review John :)
I still haven't watched Death on the Nile and it's sad that this film seems to be woke which is a common problem with films and tv series these days.
I think they're just ticking boxes so that a film will still be considered for awards. Ridiculous if true. But there's not too much in this, it just jars on a film set in 1937. John.
I watched it on Disney plus, I do believe in your opinion, it's the special effects, overall not bad but as good murder on the Orient express
The 4K disc is better than I was expecting Chris. Just having those pre-credit subtitles in focus was an improvement on the 70mm print. But it ain't as good as Orient Express to look at even if the sets are simply amazing. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I was hoping the 4k disc would be better, as I want to buy it.
@@chriscottingham2003 I'm pretty sure it's a top ten disc Chris. Maybe not everyone's top ten but given the films I think are the best quality, it's up there somewhere. Just the computer animation that spoils the overall impression because it's clearly lower quality much of the time. John.
@@moviecollector5920 my favourite 4k disc for video quality would be no time to die, especially as I am James Bond fan.
@@chriscottingham2003 Yep, that's terrific. If I'd have remembered it when I did the Top Ten video then it would have been up there. John.
First movie I watched last night with my new projector. I found it every way much better than Orient was.
Glad to hear it Jo. They are both big screen films so tonight you'll have to give Orient Express a spin to double-check that one now. John.
Will you review The 4k Blu Ray of Singin' In The Rain.
Probably not Craig but I would expect the Technicolor of that one to mean a 4K with HDR will be rather special.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 oh why is that ?
@@moviecollector5920 I have bought the 4K but it may take a while before it arrives since i bought it on amazon and i live outside of the united states. i will give you some insight on the picture quality.
@@moviecollector5920 i must say, the first half of death on the nile is rather slow and does not reach to the main murder, and kind of hangs for 1 whole hour until the murder.
@@classiccraig6555 That's how the book of Death on the Nile is Craig and if you give it some thought it has to be like that because there are so many characters and so many nuances to take in before the crime is committed. Without that we wouldn't know who all the players are. The problem for this film is that so many of us have seen the 1978 film as well as the television version too that we all know who is going to be murdered and who the culprit is. This film tells it a little differently which it had to but overall, it's a remake... but a very stylish and clever one at that.
With regards to the 4K of Singing in the Rain, that should be a fabulous looking disc because it was a Technicolor dye transfer release. The colour was so rich that it was unreal which wouldn't really work on a modern film but back then, this vibrant Technicolor was the ultimate for most cinemas around the world. I think the DVD of Singing in the Rain was exceptional but that may have been the LaserDisc as it was a long time ago when I was shown that. Whatever it was this does mean that going back to the best available master for this release and applying HDR to it should mean it's never looked as good for a home video release, or even a home film format release now that I come to think of it because it was issued full length on Super 8.
John.
I wish red box had 4k where i live I can't afford the 4k up charge
Just buy used.
It will come down in price soon Josh so just hang on. Or go for the Blu-ray which is brilliant too. John.
I wish they didn't do so many combo packages I know a place in town that sells used Blu-rays for about $2 so it's hard to pay for the 4K that are about 15 times more but I wish I could I'm planning on checking out that movie today
@@JunkerDC One thing we need to bear in mind is that if these disc releases don't sell well enough then that whole industry will die and it will die quickly. Over the past two years it's enjoyed a renaissance over here and it seems that more releases are appearing as a result. I may not be able to afford everything that comes out or even what I would like to buy, but I try to support a new release or two every month or so. Give it a while and see what happens to the price of the Blu-ray for Death on the Nile because you may find that's around $10 to $15 in a couple of months and it will still be the same film to enjoy then as it is now. And that Blu-ray is fabulous so you won't really need to invest in the 4K pack as that is likely to still be pretty expensive being as it's the latest format. John.
I watched the tv poirot version this was more loyal to the source material
I don't think I ever saw that Neil but I just couldn't get on with that series even though I tried several times. John.
Never went to see this film because everything looked so fake in the trailers. Too immersion breaking for me.
Would love to hear your thoughts on The Godfather and The Godfather: Part II in 4k. I can't believe you did not like them! They are #2 and #1 (respectively) on my list of the greatest films of all time!
The Godfather films are great but I didn't like the subject matter. I'm pretty much the same with all gangster films but I will give them another try sometime. John.
I just watched the 1978 version and it’s not that’s good, like a TV production. The David Suchet version is better and while it has TV production values its adaptation and acting is better.
And the Albert Finney version of Murder on the Orient Express is light years better than the Kenneth Branagh version so I’m not sure I match up well to this critic.
Thanks for that John. I suppose that if we all liked the same thing the world would be a boring place. The 1978 film is held in very high regard so perhaps I heightened your expectations too much. Give it another dozen views or so and you may start to see it as I do. That's what happened to me and the end result is that I see it as one of the best movies ever made. John.
i basically wanna be you when i get old haha
Oi, less of the cheek Kolton! But I do appreciate the humour. John.
I watched this on 4k Blu-ray and didn’t enjoy it at all as a movie unfortunately. Didn’t really matter how good it looked. I thought Russell Brand was particularly poor in this. He seemed to be comatose at times and wooden at others. I won’t be buying it unless it’s very cheap and I fancy watching it again to check if it was as bad as I thought:(.
What a shame. It would be a strange world if we all thought the same about every single thing though so inevitably we won't all agree on everything all of the time. I did rather like Russell Brand's performance which was a bit odd because up to then I really didn't like him at all. He's gone up in my estimation somewhat since Death on the Nile. This film ain't in the same league as the 1978 classic, that's for sure.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 That’s weird. I replied but it seems to have disappeared.
It’s definitely a case of different strokes for different folks. This film seems to have been pretty polarising: people either loved it or hated it.
Brand didn’t seem to be putting any effort in to me at all.
It does seem to have been a bit of a disaster at the box office too so, unfortunately, it looks like it might be the last Branagh gets to do.
@@jim_herd Last Night In Soho was a complete flop at the box office so that film along with the low box office take of Death on the Nile has me more concerned than ever about the future of cinema. I can understand why studios are pumping most of their efforts into live action comic books but eventually the bubble has got to burst on those so what is going to be left? I think a lot of people thought they were looking at computer animation with Death on the Nile when they weren't as it was rear projection. Perhaps going to the old Technicolor dye-transfer look didn't help in that regard. Placating the wokey agenda didn't please me and I'm sure it didn't please a lot of others out there either. Something similar in the Michael Bay film 'Ambulance' and it's utterly pointless.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I’ve not seen Last NIght In Soho. Unfortunately I think a lot of people aren’t too keen on going to the cinema anymore after recent events, myself included. That’s not going to help the demand for movies.
I didn’t really understand exactly what I was looking at with Death on the Nile. I didn’t really like the look. I guess that might’ve been the rear projection.
I definitely don’t like the woke stuff either in the slightest. Totally ruins a lot of shows and movies for me. Such is life. Perhaps things will change soon because they’re losing a lot of viewers because of it. One can only hope.
Watched it today on Disney+ as I have it free at the moment. Watched it in the cinema on release and yes, it was too woke and totally unrealistic in what they showed of the characters. Watched my spidey no way home 4k last Saturday, fantastic!!
Death on the Nile may have a few flaws but all can be forgiven when it looks as good as this. It may not be 70mm as we knew it but a lot of it is pretty close. Glad you enjoyed the new Spidey film Dark. John.
Got Orient express, and this looks great so screw the reviews I probably get it.
As far a No way Home,
I agree 100 % 👍 brilliant without doubt BEST live action Spidey film ever, although , Into the spiderverse almost the same thing but a stunning animation job.
Watched No way home four times so far, great fan service 👍🤙
@@rikaardyyz3039 Death on the Nile is actually a very good film Rikaard so I don't really understand why it would get bad reviews it does deserve some criticism for the same reason I pointed out in the review - Hollywood box ticking! I suppose it's not a superhero film though so that's probably working against it. The latest Spidey isn't really that much of a Spider-Man film but there are flashes of the old character some of us grew up with in the 60s and 70s but they don't really come from the Tom Holland portrayal. It was a great success so there's now hope that Sam Raimi is going to return to do Spider-Man 4 with Tobey Maguire which should mean the old Spidey of the original comics will be making a comeback and I'm rather excited about that.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I totally agree, if you think about " no way home " it's practically a live action
" Into the spiderverse " with characters " especially Toby Maguire " that we knew and loved decades ago.
For me he was the stand out character of the film.
I have all three Tom Holland films But he's good but for me he never nailed the character.
I WILL buy Death on the Nile 👍, so what if it doesn't hit the reviews of the first one still looks great 🙂, I have loved film/ cinema for years and often I buy films for many reasons, ( good film, style, genre, the Director , cinematography " Roger Deakins !! " Etc etc.
It's still that 2-3 hours of magic, escapism and appreciation for craft 👍
@@rikaardyyz3039 You and I are on the same hymn sheet Rikaard!
I have to admit I didn’t enjoy this one as much as Orient , I found the cgi too jarring and I thought the cgi looked poor the colours were off imo , much preferred the original and it’s use of location work
I think we'll all say we prefer the 1978 film Aidey but this film has plenty of strengths, not least the image quality which is better than you may think because it's not all CGI, much of it is back projection. However, one of the deleted scenes suggests that some [or all] of the rear projection shots had to be put through a computer so I may be wrong, but not entirely so I think. With Orient Express they were able to use an LED wall to show the scenery as the train passed by but the Karnak steamer was a different scale and I expect there isn't an LED wall that's big enough to fill all that background. Egypt often has that orange, unrealistic look. When the sun is low it seems to generate a reflection off the sand that causes it so that could be another aspect of why some find that it looks fake whereas I thought it was clever film making to replicate the look of Egypt as I remember it. The definition is still top-notch despite the downscale the 65mm went through for computer animation for so much of it. Look at that opening dance sequence to see how sharp it is. And the colour is saturated to the point of Technicolor, but not quite. Now I've blathered on so much I think I need to have another look at the film!
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I found this video interesting on the vfx for the film, not sure if its included on the discs
ua-cam.com/video/DRmqt_AWFhk/v-deo.html
a little worrying to hear you criticize the film for being "woke." while I haven't seen the film, it's important to recognize that progressive messages in films are important if handled correctly. I totally agree that very often these progressive messages are overly heavy handed and forced, often being an intent to market the film in progressive circles while not actually reflecting the values of the company. however, to flatly criticize the film as "woke" is to put oneself into the same category as some incredibly nasty people, include many who harbor violent thoughts towards people such as myself and further the efforts of legislative violence against people merely trying to exist. hearing that word is a major turnoff. but, a detailed criticism with a less colored perspective on what points you feel didnt work, is much welcomed! I hope i'm not being too much of a bother by pointing this out. I greatly enjoy your content, and would love to keep watching. now that the 4k release of Nile is out, i plan to watch both films back to back, as ive not seen either yet, and im really excited to witness the visual quality on display and form my own opinion on the stories after hearing you speak so highly of them.
There is a relationship between Poirot and Salome Otterbourne (who is of ethnic origin) that worked rather well Ariel and wasn't rammed down our throats; it was all implied and left to our imagination and I rather liked that. But I didn't think we needed it pointed out that French and Saunders were playing lovers and that grates in a film set in 1937. It was obvious after all so it was unnecessary to make a thing of it so that's why I've criticized it. I didn't think it would be wise to say exactly why it grated in the video because so many people and it seems I was right as there have been one or two on here supporting this sort of thing in films despite the historical inaccuracies.
My opinion is that films are including this sort of thing to tick boxes so they can get awards. I'm told they have to do this to be considered which is ridiculous.
Other than the above and some of the computer animation, I think the film is very good. Some of the untouched 65mm looks top-notch.
John.
Progressive messages are only important in films if you subscribe to a progressive ideology.
While you say that "it's important to recognize that progressive messages in films are important", you don't give any evidence to support that opinion -- you simply say it must be recognized, as if it's self-evident truth. While this is manipulative, it's not actually convincing.
An idea is not 'good' simply because people who call themselves 'progressive' think it. To determine which ideas are good and which are bad requires intellectual debate. I think a lot of people are looking around at all of the 'progress' that's been made in the last 20 years and taking notes at how the whole world is on fire -- however the wealthy elite who push this 'progressive' nonsense seem to be doing very well, indeed.
@@richardcahill1234 Thanks Richard. I don't really understand why there is a place for this type of thing in films at all but if we were all to be enjoying a physical conversation I'm sure we'd see and sympathize with other points of view that just aren't possible to get across on the internet typing a short message. I suspect the growth of message platforms on the web are responsible for much of the anger in society today because it's so easy to misunderstand without a face to see expressions or a voice to hear the tone. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Other content creators in this space have started doing podcasts with outside guests to have more of a conversation with those who hold different or even novel perspectives. I mention this because you may want to consider this as a way to have conversations online to flesh out these differences on what makes a good film set in a historical time period. Those of us who generally enjoy your channel, but who either disagree or may have felt troubled by your words as expressed in these comments, would likely appreciate hearing a longer-form discussion.
On the topic of Christopher Nolan's films, I know people love his films, as do I, but I find his colour grading really off-putting. Especially in his more recent films. I don't understand why you would praise shooting on film so much only to wash out all the colour and contrast in favour of a modern digital look making it look like this green, muddy mess. The skin tones in Tenet look awful to me versus the more natural look of his earlier films, The Prestige, Inception etc. Maybe this is just a me issue, as I haven't seen anyone else have an issue with it.
Greetings Luke. I hadn't noticed the colour looking a bit too much like video in Tenet but I do recollect it being rather cold. That rather enhances the overall clarity so maybe that's another reason why it comes across so well on my system. All our systems are different though and what looks like one of the best on mine may not on yours. If I ever work out why that is I'll let you know! IMAX 15/70 does ensure his films are going to have definition that can only be rivalled by other 70mm productions whatever happens with the colours. John.
Thanks for the warning on the woke content fren
It's nowhere near like most films try to ram down our throats but it did rather detract from the Agatha Christie story. It should be fine if you're prepared for it though as it's mainly the French and Saunders characters who are obviously girlfriends and we didn't need it made more obvious through dialogue.
John.
@moviecollector5920 I'm gonna take a chance on it then based on your recommendation. I've been looking to add something outside of action/sci-fi to my shelf anyway ✌️
@@OG_G4m3r Even if you don't like the film much I think you'll find that you appreciate the fabulous image quality. Yes, it originated from a 65mm shoot. Always makes for the best looking 4K home video discs. John.
Hi John. Found this video and thought it'd be something you'd like to see, following how you've said what great memories you have of the Empire Leicester Square in the 80's. If you want to be taken back to sitting in the main screen ua-cam.com/video/dKaIxbfMXC8/v-deo.html The guy who runs the channel used to be a Projectionist at The Empire, and has a lot of videos of there, The Plaza on Lower Regent Street, The Odeon Leicester Square, and other cinemas and their projection booths.
He has another here where you get to see a 70mm print of Out Of Africa on the spool, in the projection booth I believe you got a tour of once? ua-cam.com/video/Po88w2h4RZk/v-deo.html
That's Spoolbox David and Fred (the ex-chief at The Empire) and I had a great conversation on here via the comments when I did my video of our trip to see Death on the Nile at the Odeon in 70mm. I've been catching up on his videos ever since and he even has up of the Curzon, Mayfair running the 70mm print of 2001 A Space Odyssey when only a single print came over from the USA in the late 80s or early 90s. It was a 'restored' print so presumably from when the duplicate negative was struck and why the film doesn't look quite as good as it once did.
Some really interesting videos on that channel so well done for spotting it. I was thinking about doing a special shout-out video just to put people onto it but I haven't had any time at all in the last couple of weeks.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 No trouble at all. I saw the videos of The Empire and it triggered a memory of you speaking about it in the comments. Quite possibly it was your conversation with Fred, as I remember you asking if he was the Projectionist who showed you round, but he wasn't. Great seeing that spool of Out Of Africa, and as he wonders what the 70mm boxes might contain, it could have been the 70mm blow-up of Back To The Future. I just asked him and he believes BTTF there was 70mm.
@@davidjames579 You're right there David, I did ask him if it was him that showed us the projection box but it was a younger chap as Fred was too senior to work Sundays by then. He does have an interview with John the doorman somewhere on his channel and it was John who I bumped into just around the corner in The Stockpot on Panton Street (those were the days) and we chatted about my love of The Empire and he immediately took us back with him and introduced us to everyone and most importantly, the projectionist on the day. My parents were with us that day and they've never forgotten going into one of the UK's top cinema projection boxes.
John.
“Murder on The Orient Express” looks fantastic in 4K UHD.
“Death on The Nile” gives way to inferior CGI in comparison and looks bleh… and the movie isn’t as good and has too much tokenized modern “sensibility” introduced. Not to mention the anachronisms in dress and attitudes.
It still looks fabulous most of the time Nicholas. A lot of those CGI sequences are actually rear projection. John.
@@moviecollector5920
Ahhh… much like “The Mandalorian.” I didn’t realize that going in.
@@nicholastotoro7721 Another thing to bear in mind is that Egypt often has that orange colour palette. It's the light when the sun is low and possibly the reflections off the sand. There's a lot of sand over there! John.
My mum bust out laughing at the “woke” scene. She found it too ridiculous; especially with those actors.
It's sad when a perfectly good story is ruined by a jamming a political narrative into it. Entertainment should be entertainment, not political manipulation.
I think the film makers were just ticking boxes so that it would be eligible for awards. Should have got an award for best looking film but maybe that's for next year's awards... not that anyone's going to be interested after this year's farce perhaps. John.
The Luxe is just no where near as good as people think it is at all
The Odeon was always second best to The Empire but now that's been chopped up it's the only man left standing. Sit in the stalls towards the front and it's as good as anywhere. John.
Thanks for pointing out when a movie suffers from Woke Poisoning. That's important and relevant, as pervasive as it is becoming. I also hate it when a period piece suffers from characters that seem to belong in an altogether different time period -- for example, Angelina Jolie in 'Girl, Interrupted'.
The last thing I need is a Woke Poirot.
It was unnecessary to spell it out so much when most of us are intelligent enough to know what it being implied. But I did like the relationship between Poirot and Salome Otterbourne even though it was unlikely to have occurred back in 1937. It was only implied though and left to our imagination and that was probably why it worked... almost. John.
Glad to hear John is not a fan of movies going woke
Is anyone Sean? John.
Get Woke…Go Broke. Disappointed to hear that Branagh included Woke elements in DOTN. Haven’t seen it yet, but now perhaps I’ll wait for it to go on sale.
Whatever that means.
@@1165mac I found it a little too much this time as French and Saunders play lesbians which was unnecessary. Two of the main characters are of ethnic origin and they were unlikely to have been treated as equals in 1937 and less likely that another main character would be attracted to one of them. I actually quite liked the attraction between the two but these woke things were only in these things to appease the Hollywood elite who apparently will not consider a film for awards unless it ticks some specific boxes. Ridiculous if true. So ridiculous in fact that it probably is true.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I have not seen this movie but it definitely leaves a bad taste in my mouth when the filmmakers sacrifice historical accuracy of the time to tick those boxes as you said.
Loved motoe but this movie felt sooo lame and a but too boring. I love slower movies, but i just didn’t care about the film after the first half.
It is following the basic plot of the original book Peter which is all the setting up. The 1978 movie was the same and it was all about working out what was going to happen and then whodunnit. Orient Express was a little more obvious so perhaps that kept your attention more. But whatever anyone thinks of the film, it's so good to look at most of the time that it's surely got to be worth looking at. John.
What was "woke" about this film? Casting black actors?
The black actors were excellent Ryan but they were portrayed as rather domineering and bolshy at times. No chance of them being like that in 1937. French and Saunders were obviously portraying a couple but we didn't need to have it pointed out. That was just Hollywood box ticking as far as I'm concerned. John.
It's disappointing to hear you complain about "woke"ness and the rest of the comments here. I thought better of this channel. Criticise the substance of the film, don't fall into the trap of right wing buzzwords. You almost managed to but fell off. Very disappointing.
Honestly, ruining a perfectly good story by jamming woke political narratives in IS a criticism of the substance.
Entertainment should be entertainment, not politics. It's really weird how even pointing this out triggers you. Maybe stick to Disney movies.
My issue is when the actions, stories, characters etc do not match the time period, I enjoyed the movie but it was obvious the dances and other details were anachronistic
Thanks for that Gord. But this was a criticism of the film because it's set in 1937 and not 2022 when this sort of thing exists. I don't think any film set in the past should try to make the past like today and that is a film criticism that I always make and will always make. Nothing to do with politics but thank you for making me realize it is considered to be right wing to not like the re-writing of history. I'm sure you didn't mean that.
John.
Hi John, I've got a spare 4tb external hard drive if you want it and have facility to connect it up to your system - Ideally it would be connected to a PC because connecting directly to a Smart TV or similar type interface due to the files being so big i've seen it affect framerate on occasion (it would probably be fine connected with your USB port on Blu-ray player, and my issue could just have been a case of the USB ports on the TV used were slow/USB 1).
Anyway, I've upgraded my full PC system and just don't need the drive and rather than it sit doing nothing, you are welcome to it - I can post it down to you (or to a postal address) loaded with any 4k films you want (got around 587 4k movies, various series and on 4tb you would get around 60 uncompressed films).
I appreciate you like the collecting aspect, so I can load the hard drive up for review purposes and thereafter you can wipe the drive to suit and use as storage space for editing your UA-cam videos.
If you give me the thumbs up/want it, i'll work out a way of getting my email address to you for me to pass on a list of movies/series and for you to pass on address location of where you want the drive posted (wary of posting my contact email on here and also people passing themselves off as you to get the drive, but i'll get something worked out if its a go'er).
That's very kind of you Bob but please don't worry about it. I have so much disc space here that I sometimes struggle to find something when I need it. More than 15 years of filming and producing extensive documentary films has required a lot of disc space and it's all got a bit out of hand really. What I really need is a Storage Area Network but even the cheapo version Network Attached Storage would be too much expense. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yeah, I had a look at NAS myself in case I had a drive go bad, but as you mention its very pricey.
Below video is a more cost effective and potentially better solution - Definitely more user friendly to manage.
ua-cam.com/video/zPmqbtKwtgw/v-deo.html
I'll keep a hold of the drive then, but the offer is always there if you want to pick a load of 4k movies (for review purposes) / i'll load up the drive and pop it in the post.
No reviews or videos for a couple of weeks John ! ?, what's going on my old mucker ?.
Been away filming Barry. And there's nothing else to review right now. I am hoping to do a top ten movies shot on video but that one will take a lot of time so I will aim to get something a bit different compiled before that which will be a visit to a fellow film collector's home cinema.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Sounds great my old mate. Now, regarding the top 10 films shot on video, i just realised that "THE SEXY SECRETS OF THE STRIP-O-GRAM GIRLS" was shot on VHS or Super-VHS or Betamax in 1985 although with regards to its actual quality as a movie i'm the first one to fully admit that it wouldn't be good enough to make the top 100 or even 1000 let alone the top 10 so maybe you could just include it as a sort of senti-girl-tal and nostalgic honourable girl-tion simply because of the presence of the astounding Miss Hickey in it. Maybe you could include a quick clip from it as well just as an excuse to see the amazing Pauline for a few seconds in one of your videos, cheers John. BTW, that top 10 list of movies shot on video should be very interesting, i'm looking forward to seeing that.
@@wernerherzog3502 If I do ever see Ms Hickey's starring role in Strip-o-Gram Girls then I've no doubt I'll find an excuse to mention it and a certain commenter who would like to trip back to 1985 to get her! That would be a good laugh actually but no doubt someone would get upset that I'd dare to risk making a potential sexist joke or remark. Cancel culture is alive and well on UA-cam. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yeah i know you gotta' be careful what you say these days. But Pauline Hickey eh !!!, COR...WOW...WEY-HEY...!!!.