This appears to be referencing Joe Hughes his friend who sadly took his own life. Check out "For Joe" and "Suicide". Ren calls Chinchilla (Daisy) his counterpart as she is also a writer, producer and talented artist . RENegades love Chinchilla. If you want to talk range listen to Chinchilla Fingers LIVE - that will blow your mind. If you want to have your life inspired a lot of reactors have reacted to Ren's one million subscribers message where he shares his thoughts on success. stunning
**ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED** congratulations! You have discovered new ren friend chinchilla! She is fantastic and has a few other collabs with ren along with a lot of her own solo music which is incredible. Yet another rabbit hole to fall down 😂😂 this song is just so relatable because i think we have all forgotten how to be ourselves at one point or another. Ive already sent you a message about some information of his friend joe, and i know other renegades will be able to go into detail on that in the comments. Im so glad you loved it, you DID tell me you wanted a ren song that would rip your heart out and this is one of those 😊💜💜🦌
Omg, my new favorite reactor to Ren from Charleston, South Carolina, USA Do more😂❤. Chinchilla and Ren chalk outlines or just Chinchilla fingers. Both 🔥
I honestly think this is the best duet I've ever heard EVER. I've heard it over 100 times now, and I still get teary-eyed, and you absolutely GET IT. Great reaction. I'm so glad you did this one! Can't wait for you to do Crutch, and the other Chinchilla duet Chalk Outlines (Live). On a completely different note, please check out HONEYBEE by Steam Powered Giraffe, released 12 years ago (proper music video). I think the harmonies are gonna blow your mind.
Ren has a good write up in the comments about losing his friend Joe to suicide 13 years ago, this song is about him. Ren was contacted by a mutual friend that Joe was on the bridge...Ren ran to him but was too late (Joe's body was never found). From this song, and the other tribute "For Joe" you can really hear Ren's pain, and I think ongoing guilt he may feel (can especially be heard in his song "Suicide").
OH man, if you get a chance in your busy schedule of reacting to check out Chinchilla's solo work you SO should. She is such a bad ass. Fingers Live for Hunger TV is a good starting place! Really any of her music is good, if you want an absolute BANGER, Little Girl Gone is freaking EPIC.
Ren's childhood friend Joe, jumped from a bridge. He was depressed after 2 heavy breakups. Ren got a call that Joe was on the bridge and ran to try and stop him but got there too late. Joe's body was never found. Six montgs later Rens other friend Callum died in an accident. Those 2 events gave seriously impacted Ren and his music is heavily influenced by them. The freckled angels album is named after Joe. And several tracks by Ren speak about this. And recently Ren made a piano track that's for Callum. You should check all of thise out.
In my view it is about Ren losing himself while trying to process the loss of his friend Joe. But probably also about the loss of himself due to his sickness which started happening at the same time. I could be missing the point but to me it is a perfect description of processing grief
Since you liked Chinchilla in this you should def check out her song Fingers ( live version ), Cut You Off, and MF Diamond. Also her and Ren live Chalk Outlines. Love your reactions 😊
Yes this is about the struggles he's been through since the death of his friend Joe Hughes and then 6 month later callum passed in a freak accident. But the song is dedicated to Joe Hughes a tribute like the sing freckled angels and For Joe.
This song is incredible and it can be read at many levels as you said, because it speaks to our hearts. As many already said it's about one of Ren's best friend, Joe, who, sadly, passed away in a terrible way when he and Ren were still 19 (I think). Ren lived nearby the bridge where Joe died. He received a phone call late at night from a mutual friend saying that Joe was calling them, saying he was going to jump. Ren ran as fast as he could, while trying to call Joe on the phone, but midway he received the unavailable signal. When he arrived there was no one there and Joe's body was never found because that's a place with a very strong water flow. But this song also gives you the perspective of someone who has lost themself, who can't remember how they used to be before. I think everyone, sooner or later, happens to feel like that. But there's also this vivid description of how you see the world around you when you have a psychotic breakdown: bruises on the walls, he sees bodies on the floor, he talks to the dead... Again my view on the line "have I lost the Mida's touch" might describe the sensation that you feel when you lose your youthful sensation of being invincible and life beats you to a pulp. For Joe is a beautiful homage to this friend, a mashup of the last part of Su!cide and Freckled angels (both dedicated to Joe) and a third new song that connects the other two. Every time I listen to it I end up tearing up because it's really heartwrenching. Moreover you get to hear Ren's beautiful singing voice live. I think you still haven't heard his full potential but, even if I like his rap songs, his singing is on a whole another level
This is so beautiful. Chalk Outlines is, as well. The songs about his friend Joe, are Freckled Angels, this one, Su!cide, and For Joe (which has parts of the other 2 in it). Ren has a ton of songs that will rip your heart out: Chalk Outlines, Depression, and Dear God are a few of them.
This song hits so hard. Ren is so good at making a statement and yet it doesn't ever become stale or like he is just doing it for clicks. It's incredible. Thank you Jess for this amazing choice! I always love getting to fall down the Ren rabbit hole a little further!
As someone else already suggested: Freckled Angel - Su!cide - For Joe is the order you wanna do. I personally would go with the official video for Freckled Angels and not for the live but both are awesome. The live was only 8 months after he lost Joe and he is so nervous, almost rushing through the song hoping to make it without crying You will absolutely love Chinchillas own music! Please start with Fingers (live)!
Hi! As you delve more into Chinchilla, you will find that she is a beast of a writer, producer, and performer in her own right - Ren’s female counterpart, or musical siblings, as they refer to each other. Their collaborations are co-written by Chinny and Ren, so calling it "Ren's song" is a bit of a disservice. As I understand it, only the last part is about Ren’s friend Joe Hughes. Fabulous reaction, thank you (and thanks, Jess!!) ❤
I think Ren has said that he wrote this one though, afaik it was too personal to collaborate on. But that doesn't take anything away from his awesome and talented Chinchilla is in her own right. 😊
@@ElleScamp Ah that's great then, I thought Ren said Chalk Outlines was joint but HtbM was just his. She isn't listed on the writing credits for HtbM on Spotify either, which is I think what prompted the question on a stream.
@@ElleScamp - just to add that when HtbM was released on the 25th December 2019 (the original studio version) - the links published by Ren, Chinchilla and XVII (their management at the time) all link to a version on sp0t1fy that credits both Ren and Chinchilla as the songwriters. This appears to be the official release version, dated the 25th December 2019, that was uploaded via the Spinnup distribution service and is still accessible. Both Ren and Chinchilla asked their fans, shortly following the release, to support the track on 1Tun3s to push the song to the top of the songwiters chart under their joint names. Both artists seem to refer to the track in the plural when describing its ownership (e.g. "mine and Chinchilla's song", "my track with Ren", "our song", etc.). These posts can still be found on Ren's, Chinchilla's and XVII respective social media channels. Chinchilla also has images on her socials of her and Ren in the studio producing/mixing the studio track together as a teaser the day ahead of its release. The song is credited to both artists on its official BMI listing, which helps track royalty payments for music airplay in the States. As I understand it the live version, played here, was developed by Ren and Chinchilla a couple of years later on from the studio version.
I find it very difficult to align the song with the last spoken verse. The lyrics do not really match. Love the song. Love the ending. Just not sure about them being together.
For me, the whole song up to the last lines can be viewed from the perspective of the person planning to leave, or the people they leave behind. Then the very end comes together from Ren's perspective alone.
In order I would go -
Freckled angels (live) > suicide > for joe >
That will get you the story.
I ugly cry every time I watch any one of those or a reaction... Same with Hi Ren, Chalk Outlines... Killing Me Softly...
This appears to be referencing Joe Hughes his friend who sadly took his own life. Check out "For Joe" and "Suicide". Ren calls Chinchilla (Daisy) his counterpart as she is also a writer, producer and talented artist . RENegades love Chinchilla. If you want to talk range listen to Chinchilla Fingers LIVE - that will blow your mind. If you want to have your life inspired a lot of reactors have reacted to Ren's one million subscribers message where he shares his thoughts on success. stunning
Fingers Line is definitely mind blowing!
Yes Fingers live 🔥🎵🎶🎶
10:13 this is a brilliant observation about Ren introducing an unusual vocal element that pays off extremely well later in the song.
**ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED** congratulations! You have discovered new ren friend chinchilla! She is fantastic and has a few other collabs with ren along with a lot of her own solo music which is incredible. Yet another rabbit hole to fall down 😂😂 this song is just so relatable because i think we have all forgotten how to be ourselves at one point or another. Ive already sent you a message about some information of his friend joe, and i know other renegades will be able to go into detail on that in the comments. Im so glad you loved it, you DID tell me you wanted a ren song that would rip your heart out and this is one of those 😊💜💜🦌
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Killing Me Softly With His Song... The very best description of how Ren envelopes my soul and puts my very human being into words...
Omg, my new favorite reactor to Ren from Charleston, South Carolina, USA Do more😂❤. Chinchilla and Ren chalk outlines or just Chinchilla fingers. Both 🔥
I honestly think this is the best duet I've ever heard EVER. I've heard it over 100 times now, and I still get teary-eyed, and you absolutely GET IT. Great reaction. I'm so glad you did this one! Can't wait for you to do Crutch, and the other Chinchilla duet Chalk Outlines (Live).
On a completely different note, please check out HONEYBEE by Steam Powered Giraffe, released 12 years ago (proper music video). I think the harmonies are gonna blow your mind.
Ren has a good write up in the comments about losing his friend Joe to suicide 13 years ago, this song is about him. Ren was contacted by a mutual friend that Joe was on the bridge...Ren ran to him but was too late (Joe's body was never found). From this song, and the other tribute "For Joe" you can really hear Ren's pain, and I think ongoing guilt he may feel (can especially be heard in his song "Suicide").
You will love the absolute banger that is Chinchilla's latest drop, MF Diamond.
OH man, if you get a chance in your busy schedule of reacting to check out Chinchilla's solo work you SO should. She is such a bad ass. Fingers Live for Hunger TV is a good starting place! Really any of her music is good, if you want an absolute BANGER, Little Girl Gone is freaking EPIC.
They also have a couple busking videos
Yes! Really good
One Dance Drunk in Love
And Sexual Healing
Ren's childhood friend Joe, jumped from a bridge. He was depressed after 2 heavy breakups. Ren got a call that Joe was on the bridge and ran to try and stop him but got there too late. Joe's body was never found. Six montgs later Rens other friend Callum died in an accident. Those 2 events gave seriously impacted Ren and his music is heavily influenced by them.
The freckled angels album is named after Joe. And several tracks by Ren speak about this. And recently Ren made a piano track that's for Callum. You should check all of thise out.
For Joe... Bring tissues...
Great choice Jess!!! ❤ loved this reaction
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In my view it is about Ren losing himself while trying to process the loss of his friend Joe. But probably also about the loss of himself due to his sickness which started happening at the same time. I could be missing the point but to me it is a perfect description of processing grief
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Songs to gut you Suicide, For Joe, Freckled Angels, Crutch, Insomnia, Depression, and Seven Sins (which guts and thrills at the same time).
Since you liked Chinchilla in this you should def check out her song Fingers ( live version ), Cut You Off, and MF Diamond. Also her and Ren live Chalk Outlines. Love your reactions 😊
To me, this song is obviously & clearly about grief.
So much emotion bursting out from them.
You gotta do Chinchilla “Fingers” LIVE.
Yes this is about the struggles he's been through since the death of his friend Joe Hughes and then 6 month later callum passed in a freak accident. But the song is dedicated to Joe Hughes a tribute like the sing freckled angels and For Joe.
And Suicide is also about Ren/Joe.
This song is incredible and it can be read at many levels as you said, because it speaks to our hearts.
As many already said it's about one of Ren's best friend, Joe, who, sadly, passed away in a terrible way when he and Ren were still 19 (I think).
Ren lived nearby the bridge where Joe died. He received a phone call late at night from a mutual friend saying that Joe was calling them, saying he was going to jump. Ren ran as fast as he could, while trying to call Joe on the phone, but midway he received the unavailable signal.
When he arrived there was no one there and Joe's body was never found because that's a place with a very strong water flow.
But this song also gives you the perspective of someone who has lost themself, who can't remember how they used to be before.
I think everyone, sooner or later, happens to feel like that.
But there's also this vivid description of how you see the world around you when you have a psychotic breakdown: bruises on the walls, he sees bodies on the floor, he talks to the dead...
Again my view on the line "have I lost the Mida's touch" might describe the sensation that you feel when you lose your youthful sensation of being invincible and life beats you to a pulp.
For Joe is a beautiful homage to this friend, a mashup of the last part of Su!cide and Freckled angels (both dedicated to Joe) and a third new song that connects the other two. Every time I listen to it I end up tearing up because it's really heartwrenching. Moreover you get to hear Ren's beautiful singing voice live. I think you still haven't heard his full potential but, even if I like his rap songs, his singing is on a whole another level
If you want a further story about Ren's friend Joe, check out his song "Su!c|de"
This is so beautiful. Chalk Outlines is, as well. The songs about his friend Joe, are Freckled Angels, this one, Su!cide, and For Joe (which has parts of the other 2 in it). Ren has a ton of songs that will rip your heart out: Chalk Outlines, Depression, and Dear God are a few of them.
oh p.s. the live version of fingers is her voice flex the official is great too shows her production talents
he's speaking of his best mate joe. you should do little girl gone and fingers live is nuts it show cases the power of her voice
This song hits so hard. Ren is so good at making a statement and yet it doesn't ever become stale or like he is just doing it for clicks. It's incredible.
Thank you Jess for this amazing choice! I always love getting to fall down the Ren rabbit hole a little further!
Just amazing how their voices is are in sync, 🫶 makes the song even more powerful , 🎶🎶🎶
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You'd love Fingers(live for Hunger tv) by Chinchilla
Yes please react to Ren and Chinchilla “Chalk Outlines”
❤ #ren #chinchilla 🌼
i feel like blowing your mind, check out dan vasc 1 man choir hallelujah
More heart? Try Crutch. Read the description first though.
As someone else already suggested: Freckled Angel - Su!cide - For Joe is the order you wanna do. I personally would go with the official video for Freckled Angels and not for the live but both are awesome. The live was only 8 months after he lost Joe and he is so nervous, almost rushing through the song hoping to make it without crying
You will absolutely love Chinchillas own music! Please start with Fingers (live)!
You have a gift of verbalising what so much of us are feeling. Subscribing for more Ren please.💕👍🦇
"For Joe" Check it out. It will answer some questions
Subbed for the opportunity to give you a "Big Push" down the "Chinchilla" rabbit hole 🕳, which is another story. 🎉🎉🎉🎉😊
Definitely need to checkout "for Joe" "suicide" and obviously "chalk outlines"
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I absolutely love you! Your reactions are so real 🙏♥️🙏 I’m working my way through your Ren journey, you have a new sub! 🙏
Check out For Joe...........
Nicely explained ❤🎶🔥
Hi! As you delve more into Chinchilla, you will find that she is a beast of a writer, producer, and performer in her own right - Ren’s female counterpart, or musical siblings, as they refer to each other. Their collaborations are co-written by Chinny and Ren, so calling it "Ren's song" is a bit of a disservice. As I understand it, only the last part is about Ren’s friend Joe Hughes. Fabulous reaction, thank you (and thanks, Jess!!) ❤
I think Ren has said that he wrote this one though, afaik it was too personal to collaborate on. But that doesn't take anything away from his awesome and talented Chinchilla is in her own right. 😊
@@MissMeKate We did ask Chinchilla, she said it was a 50/50 co-write and on social media she refers to it as their song :)
@@ElleScamp Ah that's great then, I thought Ren said Chalk Outlines was joint but HtbM was just his. She isn't listed on the writing credits for HtbM on Spotify either, which is I think what prompted the question on a stream.
@@MissMeKate That's why we asked Chinny - because the credits have been inconsistent across the different platforms 😄
@@ElleScamp - just to add that when HtbM was released on the 25th December 2019 (the original studio version) - the links published by Ren, Chinchilla and XVII (their management at the time) all link to a version on sp0t1fy that credits both Ren and Chinchilla as the songwriters. This appears to be the official release version, dated the 25th December 2019, that was uploaded via the Spinnup distribution service and is still accessible.
Both Ren and Chinchilla asked their fans, shortly following the release, to support the track on 1Tun3s to push the song to the top of the songwiters chart under their joint names. Both artists seem to refer to the track in the plural when describing its ownership (e.g. "mine and Chinchilla's song", "my track with Ren", "our song", etc.).
These posts can still be found on Ren's, Chinchilla's and XVII respective social media channels. Chinchilla also has images on her socials of her and Ren in the studio producing/mixing the studio track together as a teaser the day ahead of its release.
The song is credited to both artists on its official BMI listing, which helps track royalty payments for music airplay in the States.
As I understand it the live version, played here, was developed by Ren and Chinchilla a couple of years later on from the studio version.
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The Tales of Jenny and Screech (who the fuck is Violet) trilogy... You're welcome!
Have you ever seen Joe Cocker perform?
I find it very difficult to align the song with the last spoken verse. The lyrics do not really match. Love the song. Love the ending. Just not sure about them being together.
For me, the whole song up to the last lines can be viewed from the perspective of the person planning to leave, or the people they leave behind. Then the very end comes together from Ren's perspective alone.
Freckled Angle, How to be me, Su!c!de For Joe. Rens songs about his friend. Chalk outlines should be next