Is Heaven like the Upside Down in Stranger Things?

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  • Опубліковано 6 лип 2023
  • Sam Harris recently said on the @triggerpod UA-cam channel that if Heaven is real, why can't we see it with our telescopes? In this video, I'm joined by PhD candidate Cruz Davis who will analyze Sam Harris' comments from a Christian philosophical perspective.
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  • @paradisecityX0
    @paradisecityX0 11 місяців тому +5

    "The World Turned Upside Down: Finding the Gospel in Stranger Things" is a recommended read for believers and nonbelievers alike

    • @cindychurch335
      @cindychurch335 10 місяців тому +1

      I never heard of it! I want to read it. 😮

  • @RolandTFlakfizer
    @RolandTFlakfizer 11 місяців тому +2

    Talking to my kids about heaven - especially when they try to parse it in terms of their experience of time and space - I kind-of trick them by saying, "heaven is _right here(/now)_ when we love one another." They seem satisfied with this in terms of the logic (that if everyone on the planet loved one another, then _this_ world would be a veritable paradise), and in the way it stretches their understanding of 'loving' in the direction of a verb (something we _do_ ) rather than a sentiment.
    For my part, as a grown-up, I still conceive of heaven as 'through/within/under/behind' our commonly-perceived reality ('common' in the sense of 'collective' as well the sense of 'typical' or 'usual'), which remains consistent with what I teach the kids.
    For what it's worth, I'd also claim that love (i.e. self-'noughting' for the sake of 'other-being' - a coherent model of trinitarian identity, as manifested definitively in the mystery of the cross) is both a kind of access to heaven and a foretaste of it ("did not our hearts burn within us") as it will be (technically already _is_ !) eschatologically.

    • @IsraelCountryCube
      @IsraelCountryCube 11 місяців тому

      Yes id satisfy my children that sense makes uh sense hah!

  • @PortersTakeOn
    @PortersTakeOn 11 місяців тому +1

    Now this is the content I have been looking for!

  • @YuckFou502
    @YuckFou502 9 місяців тому

    I think matter (from dirt to our brains) and even thoughts are an equation of vibrations and densities. Think of the visible spectrum of light and apply that to everything we experience with all of our senses.

  • @paradisecityX0
    @paradisecityX0 11 місяців тому

    Funny, l was just finished watching the series last night

  • @mkl2237
    @mkl2237 11 місяців тому

    Trippy stuff, man…

  • @deadeyeridge
    @deadeyeridge 10 місяців тому

    Sad to see the state of this channel since the deconversion.

  • @andrewmn3024
    @andrewmn3024 11 місяців тому +3

    1. If it is an alternate dimension, why did divinely inspired authors use the term for the sky? Seems a bit dishonest to use a term that would be misunderstood for centuries.
    2. How is this possible to not be literally above the earth when the bible uses the word for heaven and places it above the earth. Jesus ascended into heaven (acts 1), Heavens are his throne, earth his foot stool (Is 66) or the literal naming of the upper waters as heaven in Genesis 1 by God.

    • @Vitamin.Z
      @Vitamin.Z 11 місяців тому

      Good questions.

    • @samueldani-gr6ge
      @samueldani-gr6ge 11 місяців тому +4

      Maybe the writer at the time don't grasp the idea "alternate dimension"

    • @paradisecityX0
      @paradisecityX0 11 місяців тому

      Heaven means "above". The ancients had no concept of outer space so that's what they had to go on until we learned about the wider cosmos

    • @andrewmn3024
      @andrewmn3024 11 місяців тому

      @@samueldani-gr6ge Is this an adequate defense of a divinely inspired book? If divine revelation from an omniscient, all caring God is authoring the book why couldn't the author be given better language and understanding?

    • @andrewmn3024
      @andrewmn3024 11 місяців тому

      @@CMVMic Except there is no evidence of a metaphysical understanding of the word at the time.

  • @josephlyons473
    @josephlyons473 11 місяців тому +1

    Yeshua spoke of this, and so did John in Revalations. Heaven will be destroyed. New Jerusalem(our price) will come down. It’s 1500miles L by 1500miles W. It’s the mountain carved without hands. It’s our city. The whole world will see it come down and make itself manifest. Does anyone still read scripture these days?? SMH

  • @qwerty-so6ml
    @qwerty-so6ml 10 місяців тому

    We are the upside down fallen angels.
    Only one Gospel:
    The Gospel of Reconciliation.
    Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom
    to reconcile fallen angels (ELOHM) unto Himself.
    We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness.
    If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever.
    Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of God.

  • @BavidDigg
    @BavidDigg 11 місяців тому +2

    It's like upside down in the sense that neither of them are real

  • @Oilers1972
    @Oilers1972 11 місяців тому

    I think we are in the “upside down”. Look at the world today. At least my world anyway. Or just turn on the news.

    • @qwerty-so6ml
      @qwerty-so6ml 10 місяців тому

      We are the upside down fallen angels.
      Only one Gospel:
      The Gospel of Reconciliation.
      Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom
      to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself.
      We are the fallen angels kept in DNA chains of darkness.
      If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever.
      Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of God.

    • @Oilers1972
      @Oilers1972 10 місяців тому

      @@qwerty-so6ml , that’s interesting and had never heard that before.

    • @qwerty-so6ml
      @qwerty-so6ml 10 місяців тому

      @@Oilers1972
      Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and SEAL UP THE BOOK, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
      This is Daniel's sealed scroll, unsealed.
      Genesis 1 is Lucifer and the fallen angels making man in their image. Man is an idol, a trap for angels. (tares)
      Genesis 1 only uses the word ELOHIM.
      Genesis 2:7 the Lord God forms His representative in THEIR system. (wheat)
      Genesis 2:4 is where the word Lord God (YHWH ELOHIM) is found.
      Exodus 20:4 YHWH ELOHIM forbids idols and likeness (embodiment = human host body).
      Jesus called you a god/angel.
      John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
      What law?
      Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods (H430); and all of you are children of the most High.
      7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
      Strongs H430 Elohim = angels, gods (little g).
      Right there, he called you a god (angel) that shall die like man, and fall. A fallen angel.
      Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
      No mention of unrepentant man in Matthew 25:41.
      Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
      Pray that your eyes are opened.
      ua-cam.com/video/d5cFNlKXYbo/v-deo.html

  • @nathanroe8637
    @nathanroe8637 11 місяців тому +1

    Heaven doesn't exist, just like the upside down world doesn't exist.

  • @maggiemoonpie2168
    @maggiemoonpie2168 11 місяців тому

    Actually it's not Heaven that's upside down, but the place where the fallen angels reside until judgement day. Hence these songs and music videos like dancing on the ceiling, upside down, inside out- all pay homage to the dark lord Satan and other fallen angels they worship. The upside down Christmas tree hanging from the ceiling is another homage- there are too many to count. God is a Creator of order. It's the enemy who perverts and inverts everything.

    • @qwerty-so6ml
      @qwerty-so6ml 10 місяців тому

      Wanna see a fallen angel? Look in the mirror.
      Only one Gospel:
      The Gospel of Reconciliation.
      Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom
      to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself.
      We are the fallen angels kept in DNA chains of darkness of Lucifer's upside down world.
      If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever.
      Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of God.

  • @sanjeevgig8918
    @sanjeevgig8918 11 місяців тому +1

    AFTER 2000 YEARS , millions of Xtians are just making crap up about their "concept" of Heaven.
    .
    LOL

  • @adambamford5894
    @adambamford5894 11 місяців тому +7

    If you mean fictional, probably😂