Possibly The Worst Professional Game of Warhammer 40k Ever Recorded
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- Опубліковано 12 бер 2022
- This game from the LGT 2021 final between Alex Harrison and Malik Amin-Rubio is possibly the worst professional game I’ve ever seen. It totalled 40 minutes and was over before the end of the first turn. Both players demonstrated some extreme salt, argued over rules and there was even an unfortunate medical emergency mid-game (though they handled that well). Apparently the players weren’t even supposed to be recorded, but the commentators were out or their setup wasn’t working.
I’m aware the players were stressed and fair enough, but the sportsmanship on display was lacking, especially for a pro tournaments finals.
Please do not harass anyone involved in this video, it is intended for comedic and educational purposes only. - Ігри
These guys had so much fun. You can feel it.
This is the result of meta chasing from both sides, you can see the negative ego floating around, and sadly it is more common than people think it is.
I have made some really great friends playing this game BUT there are some d-bags running around.
Its kinda why I dont feel like ever competing.
@@TheAgentmigs 40k tournaments are the worst. But they all have a fecal aroma to them. MTG, looking at you.
@@TheAgentmigsdid it for a very very very short while. Met some cool people but those 1 in 50 can really ruin your fun for a long time.
Its toy soldiers. Stop making it so serious
wacf@gging
Alex Harrison was banned from tournaments a few years ago for endless cheating, sad to see he's back to his old ways yet again.
He's been to and won numerous events since with no issues so maybe he's changed his way. Im all for 2nd chances.
Just wondering how he cheated? I have no idea about cheating as I never played in a tournament or even anything competitive so I am just wondering what some of the normal ways they try and cheat are.
@dudeman5300 a couple years back he was playing against Geoff Robinson and was on camera shifting a badly positioned model to be a better spot during his opponent's turn by pushing it with a water bottle. This was among several other shady things he did during that video.
@@UmJammaLammahe also tends to “forget rules” 😂
@@MrPotatoWaffles Maybe he wasn't caught...
A known cheater who was banned from the London GT for being a scumbag. Not shocked he's featured here.
Which guy? The admec?
@@burgasaurus7792 Alex Harrison, the Deathwatch guy.
@@TheDrewcas oh yeah I heard about this guy in a podcast I don't what podcast was but they were mention he cheated or something
What happens when you play against brown people....
How tf do you cheat in this? Outside if like, weighted dice or some bs
Imagine ending a game with "gg but not really though"
Most cringe match ever lol
when I used to play magic when ravnica came back out, I had a jund midrange deck and clobbered a dude's usa deck first game. I was like "hell yeah, not bad for my first time" and the other player said "I've never been more insulted" and left the tournament.
Moving 40k away from being movement and positioning focused to pre-measuring distances and "gotcha" stratagems has changed the game for the worse, i think
I think there should be a rule that doesn't let you check the distance before moving. I too am not a fan of stratagems.
@@niccogiova6728
No, the result will be that players start "measuring" in weird ways that aren't actually measuring (i.e.) "leaning" on a table with the hand in between something and use that hand as a reference because you know it's length or something weird like that. Pre-measuring is great as it does allow for much more transparency. Believe me, if you declare a move first and then measure and see if you can do it, those guys will be toxic af.
By the way, 40k is very much positioning. Not on this terrain though, that is hot garbage as it is a desert right in the center.
Anyways, I'll take the current game over the 7th any time. Invisible bike stars with 2+ rerollable invuln and I think 3+ fnp, no thanks. Free transports for like 15 units, no thanks. Multiple barrage template sniping, nah. It was so much procedure and dice rolling for nothing basically. I'll have (almost) any stratagem there is now.
The insane micro is not very fun tbh.
I always felt like the pre-measuring broke the fun side of the game. When it suddenly all becomes about cheesy stratagems something important was lost. But you could say the same about any competitive game. It is supposed to be FUN. If it isn't, what's the point?
@@matthewjohnson1415 Sounds like a skill issue there
Having been to one real tornament "I'm too tired to do that" is the most real thing ever and the reason I'm never playing in another Warhammer Tornament.
They are grueling. Between the game mechanics themselves and the typical personality that is attracted to this game tournaments are not even remotely worth it
After playing my first few games and being utterly crushed by Ctan shards in 1k games I’m just done with the game
C'tan shard in a 1k? Yeah that is scummy
@@CaptainWwowW is it?
@@Cyd98 yeah it very much is. In 1K lists, most armies lack the firepower to take a Ctan down.
I can't believe the random guy having a medical emergency was the least awkward part
Wahahehey
There were like gunshots or something right after 💀💀💀
@@Rokashycommisar said “why waste on medical when a bullet does the job”
Gosh that was a hard watch. Their only decent moment was the concern for the wellbeing of someone nearby. But also this is by no means typical of the 40k game. This is the 1% tryhard WAAC competitive players breaking the game for a 3D printed trophy.
This is 40k in Australia.
actually this is quite typical. people not knowing their codexes, the terrain rules, all because GW cant right write coherently
At a tournament, I'd say this is closer to 25-33% of the time. Narrative or casual then more like 5-10%. This is from my experience.
Everyone says it's just 1% of the community, such a small number yet everyone has tons of stories about meeting people like this
What happens when you play against brown people....
I'd absolutely HATE to play somebody with that attitude
Is this 40k now? Tabling your opponent on the first shooting phase in the first battle round? Genuinely sad.
Also imagine encountering either of these two while looking for a pick up game in your LGS. Terrifying.
No, this is an older game and the Admech army was brought back into balance quite a while ago.
this was 40k until recently. Since this game there's been some nerfs to admech, nerfs to the amount of aircraft you can bring (this game shows 4, the limit now is 2), some more nerfs to admech and other powerful factions and as of the recent balance dataslate the game is in a good place where the balance between armies is much better and turn 1 blowouts are pretty much impossible to do.
Terrifying? Just say u concede when u see their list and just play someone else. They will understand when no one plays them
It’s not what 99% of 40K is, but this is two hyper competitive players at a tournament, at least one of which has a very spammy list when the admech were very much overpowered.
It is if you play against bikes
This single handed forced the lack of player mic’s for all the major events in the US for the following year
The mismatched dice offend me
Me: "6 minutes video? It must be edited"
* watch the video *
"Well, they just cut the dead moments, but it's just a single turn, so...."
Two dudes who couldn't punch their way out of a wet paper bag trying to big dog eachother while playing a tabletop game. WTF happened to 40k
Lollllllllll amazing
It became a icon of the gaming world. With money involved. Huge power creeps and a company who don't give a crap about customers/fans.
I first got into warhammer years ago the I forgot about for some years then found it again through the video games and I was like I know I will see if I could get into the community or something then I saw stuff like this and realised I would have better luck trying to get my friends into it
Nothing....
It got popular.
I've never really understood playing tabletop games super competitively, because the inherent randomness and unbalance of games like 40K makes them pretty luck based and unfair IMO, and because playing for any other reason than simply having fun (like playing only to win) feels boring and like it would breed this type of behaviour,
You don't understand? If the ruleset of the game is well made playing competitive is the default way to go. Playing super casual and only for fun, whatever that means, sound really good and peace and love but only works if you play with close friends and even then problems can arise. If the ruleset is tight there is no need to distinguish between casual and competitive, the game just is. The problem is that 40k is not a good ruleset, period. It barely holds up as a casual game among friends, it definitely does not hold up as a game you can play with randos. The problem is not on competitive play in itself, the problem is wanting to be competitive on a bad game that can't handle it
@@heinz8233 I think you misunderstand my comment, I used the phrase "SUPER competitively" in my comment because I'm not saying competitive play is inherently bad, I'm saying when players are so focused on winning they ignore basic manners and good sportsmanship problems arise, friendly competition in which all players are gracious and polite whether they win or lose is great. Also I play non-competitive and narrative games with strangers that go well, so I don't really understand why you think casual play only works with close friends
Once you start moving models with tape measures everything becomes imprecise. I've never understood try to make this loosy goosy kind of came ultra competitive.
Playing tabletop games competitively is great, 40k is just not the game for it as GW purposely makes the game unbalnaced for profit
Or just make a board with a light graph on top of everything?
To all the guys complaining, this is not even 1% of the games you'll ever play.
Depends on if you play in tournaments. You get a *lot* of rules disagreements and grumpiness in high level games. I used to play in 5th Ed tournaments, and you’d genuinely see games like this all the time
@@mpepp9 I still play in tournaments as well and usually referees are available in case of disagreement. However people straight up cheating is quite rare and if they were found to be cheating they would most likely be banned and black listed in every tournament of the region
Tbh I have been to many tournaments (usually make middle tables) and I have only ever had one bad game (slow play) otherwise all have been good
I'm trying to play home brew and I get this all the time. Takes about 5-6 hours per turn. Seriously considering giving up
@@derykhenderson5187 homebrew can be a source of more confusion. The game is already complex enough as it is so adding more rules might make it more difficult. If a turn is taking hours, there is definietly something going wrong. You might want to consider playing with other people, that should definietly not be a normal occurrence. A full game of 2k vs 2k points usually takes between 2 and 4 hours maximum if both players know their rules
This is why I don't play with anyone but my close circle. this is such a waste of precious free time. I can't handle the passive aggressive shit going on here fo real 😂
sadly my close circle is kinda like this too. Or at least they take it way too serious
@@HansFlamme that sucks dude
@@captaincorundum9788 it does, I'm a new player if you want so (started two years ago) and I recently started to play CSM. They legit got mad at me because I did forget to make a Dark Pact a couple of times lmao even tho it's in favor of them.
They both deserved each other, no winners here.
"I'm gonna build my army around a first turn win if I go first"
...
"Why would games workshop make such a bad game where you can only win if you go first!"
Exactly, see if hed be singing the same tune if hed won the die roll
I mean you can do that in magic and yugioh too, and I'm sure a fair amount of other games as well
@@embearasedbear3694 you just compared card decks to table top wargaming, theres a little more RNG with table top than yugioh even if the newer yugioh stuff is a bit overzealous
@@MrSolidsnake293 "I'm sure a fair amount of other games as well" You think WH is the only mini game you can win turn one?
@@embearasedbear3694 there are many that can have turn one wins but we both know Warhammer feels the worst and is based on tons of dice.
As I said previously yugioh while complex isn't the same complexity as table top simply because the biggest limit of deck building is simple deck shuffling you either get your build or you don't.
I feel like there needs to be some context added to this.
This was day 2, hour 15-16 of the event. These were the only two players in the hall and they were dog tired playing in an absolute hell meta of Admech flier spam. The entire game was just a first turn rolloff because of how broken OP these flyers were. Neither wanted to be playing this game and nerves were frayed
from my understanding 95% of players play the right way
scuffed narritive battles.
At some locals you never see this type of play, but at others it's infected almost everybody. It just depends
how does someone in finals not understand basic rules
because some armies were literally point your stuff towards the enemy and win at that point of 9th edition
Alex Harrison is a known cheater and tends to “forget rules”
Why would you make the blue player's text red and the red player's text blue? I don't even know who to hate on.
It was so annoying.
Just to give a bit of context : This meta was ridiculous. The ad mech plane/ranger brick spam was ridiculous and it frequently ended on the first turn.
This is why the both are just over the game before it starts. They know if Ad mech goes first, there is nothing he can do about the bombers since at this time, every list had 3.
Actually there's only a single bomber in Malik's list. He had three gunships.
I play myself using two different armies and i get into heated arguments against myself too! Sometimes even end up punching myself..
We all make mistakes in the heat of passion
Super based. So based in fact that I am assuming you are playing 2 Ork armies, one representing Gork and the other Mork.
40k is easily my favorite way to hang out with the boys but 40k against like random people trying to get a leg up on you sounds absolutely miserable.
The game is busted enough bro you don't have to cheat.
And to nobodies surprise, Alex Harrison is involved.
I played Alex at a local tournament maybe close to 10 years ago, I was maybe 14-15 but I knew the rules like the back of my hand and this was the final, the game we played was fine he had the better army and I played not so good but he was cool to play against, as for the way they conducted themselves at the table this is far from the worst is it ideal? no you play with your opponent not against them but with so much rules bloat and codex creep eventually you'll run into games that maybe don't make for best viewing and this was one of those occasions
I dunno he seemed like an ass in this video
Example of antiquated design. You can still do "I go you go" in a good way- but lame the first turn and give reaction moves to players. Take SAGA as a good example of a competitive wargame- in most senarios the first player gets only 3 of 8 SAGA dice used to charge activations and abilities, but can manover freely during first turn. Also players can react to attacks by closing ranks to lower their attack but improve armor saves. So things like that will never happen. This is what happens when you only care about releasing units but not improving the ruleset in ways that matter.
For some reason GW doesn't want to let go these rules from the 80s. I always tell people the first thing 40k needs is to move away from d6 to d10 at least, but d12 preferably. There are so many armies now that we need more granularity.
I love 40k... the lore, the models, even the game but every edition that doesn't completely overhaul the gameplay is a waste.
100% agree. asymmetrical maps and an attacker / defender position can help offset the first turn advantage too
Mage Knight solved all of these tabletop problems 20 years ago but the industry didn’t pay attention.
It's things like this that are the reason I won't play anything tournament style. I will only play narrative games with people who don't believe that 40k, a game, is not life or death.
Wish I could find more laid back players. I hate playing competitive 40k it sucks.
ESL
This. Absolutely this.
It feels like they are tired and they landed in a matchup with terrain where you go first and you win.
It should be noted that this footage is like over a year old. Despite being uploaded recently.
I have no idea whats going on but I thank God that my introduction to Warhammer was through video games.
I think there should be official rule, that u can put a black carton box on middle of table when u deploy and just deploy blindly, it's fucking stupid that u can see and measure position of players.
There should be fog of war.
To be fair to the AdMec guy he probably was just depressed knowing he was going to have to play with this guy.
Also how can you be a "pro" and not remove the fails rather than picking up the hits to avoid potential confusion like the "4"
10th edition sorted out a lot of the rules bloat, but still can lead to some heated moments even between friends. Its just a big time commitment so you dont want to be screwed I guess. Luckily with friends everyone still ends the game happy, seeing randos behave like this is almost insufferable!
40k has been like this since 8th. Its all strategem/special rule gotchas instead of being about positioning and generic rules
bruh this is all in TURN ONE????????
Yes Senator Armstrong, all on turn one on the first player's turn, the second player didn't even get to play because they got eviscerated and conceded.
@@warhammerclipsandbits910 where's the fun in that
I have had no compulsion ever to play competitive 40K, and this video affirms it.
Why the f would I waste 3 hrs of my time doing this?
Over two years old and this video has lost non of its impact.
The only thing done well here is a demonstration of how toxic the competitive edge games can be.
Having played since 89 I’m proud to say that I still view it as a game of grown adults playing with toy soldiers.
Tournaments have there place and players should as well as trying to create the best army, should also aim to play in a crisp manner that aims to reduce misunderstanding.
This...this right here is the reason I just paint the models. I'd rather not see either of these players on the table as those egos would be bruised after the verbal assault Id deliever upon them.
Because less that 1% of the player base are unpleasant to play against is the reason you don't play?
With my experiences Id say far more than 1%. Too each their own though. I just find painting the models to be the best part of the hobby. @@cruelmole
@@thomassadler2071 been playing in tournaments for over 2 years have only met one person who's genuinely unpleasant to play against. Everyone else has been fair, fun and genuinely lovely.
You had a better experience than myself. Im not roping everyone who plays into the group but my experience left a sour enough taste in my mouth that I share the Hobbying aspect more with my local gaming group.@@cruelmole
The most fun tables at a tournament are the bottom ones. Guys who have gone with zero hoping of winning, usually much more interesting armies, just there for the fun
I come back to this video occasionally to show new people into the hobby how certain people and certain situations can take something that is supposed to be “fun” and literally ruin it, so much so that they can’t even enjoy it themselves 😂😂
The one game of 40k I played was with me and my friend after school. I was playing Space Marines, and he was playing Eldar. I just remember blowing up half his guys with my 2 land raiders and other heavy weapons from across the board on the first turn, and then he rage quit.
This is like some card game national tourney I went to, you can hear people calling judge every 5 minutes, everyone's trying to rule shark the other person. It's expected though, when you're at that level of competitiveness, winning is everything otherwise there is no point in even trying to get that far. Me? I died on round 1 lol.
In the first round of the first Magic tournament I ever went to, I drew my first card of the game and another card slid off the top of the deck (it happens sometimes when cards are freshly sleeved and they are still super slippery and not perfectly flattened out yet). It was face down, neither of us knew what the card was and knew it had come from the top of the deck. I quickly put it back on top and figured we would keep playing, but my opponent called a judge. I was given a warning and told if I did anything like that again I would be ejected from the tournament. Lived the rest of the tournament in terror. Those were the days.
@@mikeh9708when in doubt call a judge, especially if it's something you did or something your not sure about.
I don't even play this game or know how it plays but them picking up the dice is really triggering me, you don't EVER pick up the dice after they've been rolled until it's time to roll again.
Why is it when i see clips of people cheating it always involves this alex harrison guy and why is he still playing?
Lol. “Professional 40k” what an oxymoron
This is why I never got into the tabletop. I bought a ton of books and codices for the lore, but never once wanted miniatures. Primarily for this reason, and also because GW is one of the worst companies I've ever had the displeasure of being a "fan" of their IP.
Table top is great just not when your testing to be the try hard master of the universe to win an utterly pointless event, playing weekly with friend and just having fun in far far better and the way tabletops should be played once you stick the competitive tab on things every geek/nerd that's never won anything in there life goes full retard to try to claim some form of success and grandeur, which is why you get guys like the one in the video trying to pull everything out because he doesn't know how to take a loss
That's an absolutely stupid reason. Sorry. Some of the best times of my hobby life has been awese games with good friends, a few beers and pizza. This is like 0.1% of the game. For one, you'll probably never make the final of a GT in London. So you don't need to go in competitions. You find good mates and gave good times! Try it, you might like it.
@@FarseerB1rdy It's a stupid reason to get into a hobby because their company treats it's consumers like dogshit, it's heavily overpriced, and incidents like this are widespread?
@@coyote4326 You don't play the game so you have no idea apart from a few videos. It's really not like this all the time. It's hardly anything you will ever come across. This is from someone whose been in the hobby of Wargaming (GW and non GW) for over 20 years, played dozens and dozens of tournaments, ran a miniatures shop and tournaments from said shop.
It's been a net positive experience for me personally. Sadly this video shows the absolute worst it can be.
I couldn't care less about the price and company. They aren't the be all and end all for me. The amount of hours of pleasure I get from painting and gaming beats the price. Plus I just buy less/smarter. It can be done.
@@coyote4326 "treats it's consumers like dogshit"
yes
"it's heavily overpriced",
ehhh if you're not a shrewd spender, yeah
"and incidents like this are widespread?"
no
back after a year...I totally missed it was a first turn kill...that's pretty much 40k damn bro that's awful
Still too this day I still don’t know how you play warhammer
40k isn't that shit, shit is just the way these guys are playing it... of course you want to win, but also you want to have fun.
Nah let’s me honest, the overall game is a completely bloated mess compared to 4th and 5th edition
Pretty much why I keep putting the hobby down over the decades, cool universe and models but the game always boils down to this exact formula.
40k turned into nothing but rules lawyering
@@fenook8634 That’s been high level tournaments since when I started playing 15+ years ago
That’s always been the case these guys were just being asses
I thought that was turn two or three. Turn one and nearly tabled? I still can't believe seeing this, and I've been seeing it happen with almost every new codex during 9th.
I'm just happy I don't play 40k anymore. I play warhammer that isn't 40k.
@@icaruspotion7080 Basically yes!
This was the London Open tbf, it’s still seen as one of the worst supermajors of all 2021
Most of the Marines were off the table in drop pods. He just threw a tantrum and called the game after turn 1 regardless because all his Dreadnoughts were killed.
this was painful to watch almost makes me want to throw away my models if i encountered any of these guys at a game i would pack up and head. i could feel the joy and fun being sucked out
How many archeopters does a guy need, Jesus christ
Dear god what a nightmare's its what happens when you allow players to police themselves in competive games.
To be fair it’s Alex Harrison he’s a known cheater
Really?
@@cadet1ice yeah lol he got banned for a bit
@@jamesdo3086 Didn't he get unbanned and won like loads of events since? If he was that bad, I'd have thought the TOs would have kept the ban. Maybe he's changed?
This is the problem with GW rules sets. What is the point of collecting and painting a great army to be tabled on the first players first turn?! How is that fun to anyone. And the rules lawyering??? Nigel Stillman we need you desperately!
Couldn’t these battles be made more fun with narration and descriptive action sequences describing what’s happening in the rolls?
Tournament play sort of requires speedy playing and neither party is interested in it. There are many excellent UA-cam channels that go the other way.
Meanwhile I just want to have fun with others, while we admire our small forces of well loved and overpriced plastic.
Alex Harrison, where have i heard that name before?
UA-cam reccomended this, thought i'd humour it... This has got to be one of the worst games i've ever seen! I've seen better spirit at a FLG with kids! This is what happens when you get two toxic try hards who don't want to have fun and just win at all costs. It's got the lot! Challenging well documented rules/ignoring them when it suits (cheating). Accidently deliberatly on purpose nudging models/terrain (cheating), moving the other players stuff?! (cheating) and then to top it all off cribbing dice rolls that didn't need to be cribbed and asking for a re-rolls.
Just have fun, play the game, make friends and when it doubt. Give the benefit of the doubt.
Dude how you going to pay over $1000 and spend hundreds of hours painting an army just to play a game where you're not even allowed to play those units because you went second? This is everything that makes the hobby repulsive to normal people.
This was painful to watch, to much crap going on for a game.
Basic tournament stuff. This is why I don’t want to play in those. People care too much about winning, they care enough to cheat.
This is partly why i always play casual. Along with hating 10th and how it destroyed my firstborn space marine armies
100% with you
Manlet marines had to go, they've been horribly proportioned for a very long time now.
@Shrouded_reaper From the very beginning, being a part of the entire universe. That's decades. The thing is; what everyone wanted was just a redesign. Not a new army inside the same faction that poorly just mangles them to the side and was supposed to aggressively push you to buy everything new so you could still play the tabletop at all. The execution of all this has been extremely, ridiculously chaotic and took almost a decade to be where people actually wanted it to go from the VERY start.
@@nickkohlmann Sure, but with the way they did it they still had to go. Space Marines have terrible bloat even after they were taken out
I paint but have never played, is it really like this
Four flyers...
That's god damn unpleasant.
this is anything but professional
There Should be a judge watching the entire game tbh
This style of tournament gaming is highly unrepresentative of the game, the hobby, and the community. It's simply not a game that lends itself well to competitive play, where the players are not more interested in creating a fun narrative and experience than they are in just "winning". I don't even recognize this crap as my hobby. On the plus side, it does help separate all the meta-chasing children with fragile egos, from those that actually appreciate the wonderful narrative game-worlds that GW and the community have created over the last 4 decades.
One of the two also talks almost like Herknes Dragonblade, which increases the awkwardness
People like this (rude dry attitudes), are one of the big reasons underworlds tournaments no longer do anything for me other than feel like a waste of time.
What happened to the random dude getting injured in the bg?
He probably died or something.
The design of this game is already bad and then the super nerds involved, make it unenjoyable for anyone else involved.
This is my experience every time I play with a stranger at a GW store
I would much rather just play in the basement with some friends and take whatever list looks or sounds fun than play some meta in a tourney
The Red voice is the Blue marked Player right?
40k dont look anything like back in the days when we used to play. Quit 40k many years ago and dont regret it after this video
I don't know Warhammer competitive scene. All I see here is the Deathcwatch player behaving like a child who absolutely wants to win and interpretating rules as he wants.
This is why i switched to Aos. Obviously you can't completely get away from it, but the community I've experienced is far more casual "it's a game, lets have a laugh" vibe.
I would've called a TO. I'm not fighting with people. Would've stopped this shit the moment he started setting up out of turn.
why did it have to be the two armies I play myself…
Damn, kinda glad I won't be at any top tables in the UK
This feels like mono red agro
yea, this isnt what 40k is like even in a competition. this is a uniquely bad instance of idiots being idiots
Wow, this looks like the absolute best way to spend an afternoon ...
Yeah, 9th could be pretty cancerous if you were in the top-end of competitive players with all the stratagem bloat/gotchas, and the super lethal go-first alpha lists like this guy's planes. Events in 10th are much more enjoyable now that the meta has settled and the game is less complex/lethal overall.
This is by far the worst game i have seen ever. imagine calling it there on the first turn wtf. Competitive gaming ruins games, regardless of what they are.
Maybe GW's unbalanced shit show. KoW has a pretty healthy competitive community across across the US and in other countries.
If a game is well made and at least have a semblance of balance competitive games are fun. Even unbalanced shitfests like yugioh or magic are mostly fun in a competitive setting. AoS 3rd edition is the most fun i had with a wargame since 40k5e and hordes. 40k had been going down the drain since 7th edition this is just the culmination of years of bad decisions.
Lol. Considering warhammer is not a “professional” game this was expected.
Demonstrates why 40K is so painful as a competitive game - the rules just do not allow any sort of competitive game. Play casually or play a better designed game
This is exactly why I stopped playing 40k and switched to Adeptus Titanicus. 40k is far from enjoyable now.
All of my group switched towards the end of last year. AT is absolutely the BALLS. So much fun but you definitely have to be in the mindset for absolutely chaotic things happening. Chain reaction Engine kills being the main one 😂
@@FarseerB1rdy I won my game tonight by this lol warlord went pop and completely nuclear. Wiped out 4 Knights and 3 damaged reavers lol
@@mcc_1024 Holy shit that sounds amazing 😂😂😂
@@FarseerB1rdy go big or go home 🤣
@@mcc_1024 it's the only way mate!
Can't we all just get along and have fun
These games make me takes breaks from the games for MONTHS
My buddy is still on hiatus from a bad experience with a knight player who was being a dick.
There's good competitive players and then there are these horrible competitive players.
I can understand taking the game super seriously, but this is ridiculous. At some point, you need to reevaluate your priorities when playing with toy soldiers and funny squares.
I mean Harrison is the dude that cheated on stream with a water bottle
This was all on turn 1? Christ