Fender bought SWR a long time ago. Back in the day I played SWR and when I heard fender was making a modeler and I was excited. Excited to see a SM900 or 750x amp model. Or a Goliath or Henry 8x8 cab. Very disappointed that there is zero SWR in the TMP,
As of right now there aren't even any of Fender's own Rumble amps in the TMP, so we weren't even considering SWR being included as they went out of business over a decade ago.
the Fender Tone Master Pro's interface is everything the IK Multimedia TONEX should have been. Nevertheless, I'll wait to see if Fender launches a proper Bass version or if the TONEX gets an upgrade.
Any thoughts about playing the bass thru the Tone Master Pro and the Tone Master FR-10/12 amps/cabs that were designed for the Tone Master Pro? Would it be ok at a conservative volume at home?
It would be totally fine. The FRFR cabs by definition (full-range, flat response) will be able to handle the bass frequencies at a reasonable volume level.
Yes that's true it was originally designed as a bass amp. However, not a great bass amp, even in those days. But that's the fun thing about digital! Would it be recommended to plug a bass into a real Bassman amp with 4x10 speakers voiced these days for guitar? Probably not. Digital? Go for it!
I need to play bass in a cover band (Guns N' Roses tribute) and guitar for other projects. Could TMP be the perfect solution? I'm also considering the quadcortex, but I'm not very convinced...
Yes it could be! That's exactly how Dan describes one of the best use cases. We understand it's a pricey unit for bassists, when the majority of bassists only need a small handful of pedals. But, for it to replace your bass amp, your bass cabinet, a small handful of pedals, and add some studio-quality post processing effects, it's a fantastic solution. Especially if you're also a guitarist and would use the TMP for that as well, it'll be the one and only thing you need to cover both.
Also... Fender just released a new firmware update again yesterday... and guess what... it is mostly an update for bass player with new amps, cabs and FX!
We actually shot the Forty Six & 2 intro last. So the patch that was used was the same one used throughout the entire video. You can see the patch in the screen flyby in the intro, although it shows every effect on because it looked cooler lit up. But we started with the Studio Bass preset, added the Bassbreaker Low amp model for more grit, and we used the Electric Flanger effect, and left a touch of reverb on at the end of the chain.
We think this is the only one! We missed the opportunity for a TMP launch video for guitar, that's why we decided to approach it from a different angle and do it with bass.
It really needs a a better Bass Octaver. I wasn't impressed with the one in tis video.. The MXR bass Octave tracks great.. Honestly the Line 6 Helix Legacy Octaver tracks better that anything and sounds great. Im thinking about getting one of these but Ill wait till they get some Tube Bass amps
That's absolutely true. Most bassists would only need a handful of pedals like a tuner, compressor, an EQ, one drive pedal, maybe a modulation pedal, and then some sort of amp sim/DI pedal. Yes, that could be put together for less than the cost of the Tone Master Pro. But depending on the price, those 4-5 pedals could cost around $1000 - $1200 (lots of bass compressor pedals, amp sim/DI pedals, etc. cost around $300 each). Then you'd need the board itself ($200 Pedal Train), power ($200 Pedal Power), cables... So you might end up spending $1500 or so on a "small to medium" board. Still less than a Tone Master Pro. But using the TMP would not be for people who want small to medium setups. By the end of the video, Dan has assembled a bass-oriented board with over 10 effects on it, which is a pretty large board. Might be overkill, but it might be exactly what a bassist needs in a gigging cover band to get the sounds and tones from a wide variety of songs. The TMP gives you over 100 of the world's most popular amps and effects at your fingertips, so you're not limited by those 4-5 pedals on a small to medium board. And although the majority of those amps and effects are geared toward guitarists, part of the point of this demonstration is to show that these are still viable tones to use with bass. Finally, many bassists aren't necessarily "just bassists"; they're guitarists or multi-instrumentalists, audio engineers, studio owners, etc. Dan addresses this at the end of the video around 18:33. If you play bass and guitar, you wouldn't need to have your "small to medium bass board" and a separate "small to medium guitar board". This is an all-in-one solution. No separate power supply. No interlink cables. Fewer points of failure. No ripping up velcro to swap pedals in and out or re-arrange the order. A stereo looper included. Over 500 preset slots which is tons of room to build a setlist. On-board audio interface so it could be used as your one-and-only recording device. When you add up all the features it offers you, consider all the possible use cases, and it comes in a convenient compact package, the cost is justified.
I really enjoyed your presentation and your bass playing too. I have had my TMP for a week or so and it is a great unit. Enjoying it.
Thanks a lot Brian!
excellent video! I always wanted to see how Tone Pro worked on a bass and it works really well!
Thanks a lot Noah! We always wanted to as well, that's why we made this video!
Fender bought SWR a long time ago. Back in the day I played SWR and when I heard fender was making a modeler and I was excited. Excited to see a SM900 or 750x amp model. Or a Goliath or Henry 8x8 cab. Very disappointed that there is zero SWR in the TMP,
As of right now there aren't even any of Fender's own Rumble amps in the TMP, so we weren't even considering SWR being included as they went out of business over a decade ago.
@@longandmcquade You mean Fender took the technology and dissolved the company. Proper shame
At least with cabs, you can install your own impulse responses.
the Fender Tone Master Pro's interface is everything the IK Multimedia TONEX should have been. Nevertheless, I'll wait to see if Fender launches a proper Bass version or if the TONEX gets an upgrade.
They did yesterday! :)
Any thoughts about playing the bass thru the Tone Master Pro and the Tone Master FR-10/12 amps/cabs that were designed for the Tone Master Pro? Would it be ok at a conservative volume at home?
It would be totally fine. The FRFR cabs by definition (full-range, flat response) will be able to handle the bass frequencies at a reasonable volume level.
Nice review!! I'd like to heard the filter sound, that's a very important effect for me.
Time to do a new version of this video now that there actually are som bass in TMP. I would not mind if you tested the fr10/12 with TMP and bass.
One of the amps is a 4x10 '59 Bassman, an actual bass amp.
Yes that's true it was originally designed as a bass amp. However, not a great bass amp, even in those days. But that's the fun thing about digital! Would it be recommended to plug a bass into a real Bassman amp with 4x10 speakers voiced these days for guitar? Probably not. Digital? Go for it!
Great video!!!! The Phaser 90 yesssssss!!!!
It's interesting that everything defaults at a mid scoop.
I need to play bass in a cover band (Guns N' Roses tribute) and guitar for other projects. Could TMP be the perfect solution? I'm also considering the quadcortex, but I'm not very convinced...
Yes it could be! That's exactly how Dan describes one of the best use cases. We understand it's a pricey unit for bassists, when the majority of bassists only need a small handful of pedals. But, for it to replace your bass amp, your bass cabinet, a small handful of pedals, and add some studio-quality post processing effects, it's a fantastic solution. Especially if you're also a guitarist and would use the TMP for that as well, it'll be the one and only thing you need to cover both.
Also... Fender just released a new firmware update again yesterday... and guess what... it is mostly an update for bass player with new amps, cabs and FX!
@@metootube30 I saw! The timing was incredible, I knew I commented before! 😂
@@metootube30 We saw! Some nice new Ampeg bass amp/cab models and even the Sans Amp DI! 🤩 Dan called it out at 19:03!
What setting are you using for Fourty Six and 2?
We actually shot the Forty Six & 2 intro last. So the patch that was used was the same one used throughout the entire video. You can see the patch in the screen flyby in the intro, although it shows every effect on because it looked cooler lit up. But we started with the Studio Bass preset, added the Bassbreaker Low amp model for more grit, and we used the Electric Flanger effect, and left a touch of reverb on at the end of the chain.
I wish there were more videos like this for the TMP for Bass. I you or anyone is aware of anything else, please post here.
We think this is the only one! We missed the opportunity for a TMP launch video for guitar, that's why we decided to approach it from a different angle and do it with bass.
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It is time to make an another video... the new update is mostly only for bass players :)
They should have at least included the highly regarded Fender TBP-1, and one bass cab, in my opinion.
Hopefully they will in a future update!
It really needs a a better Bass Octaver. I wasn't impressed with the one in tis video.. The MXR bass Octave tracks great.. Honestly the Line 6 Helix Legacy Octaver tracks better that anything and sounds great. Im thinking about getting one of these but Ill wait till they get some Tube Bass amps
There is a new firmware update again posted yesterday from Fender. It is mostly for bass players (new amps, cabs, fx...) :)
Fender tonemaster Bass
Casually breaks into Hysteria by Muse.
nothing about this sound right to my ears , im quite sure There are way better option for that kind of Money
For example? I am just interested!!
That octave sounded like ass
@@tigreporteador nueral dsp probably
@@tigreporteadori think it's the same price
@@AYOO88 thanks for the answer :)
For this money i can build a small to medium board.
That's absolutely true. Most bassists would only need a handful of pedals like a tuner, compressor, an EQ, one drive pedal, maybe a modulation pedal, and then some sort of amp sim/DI pedal. Yes, that could be put together for less than the cost of the Tone Master Pro. But depending on the price, those 4-5 pedals could cost around $1000 - $1200 (lots of bass compressor pedals, amp sim/DI pedals, etc. cost around $300 each). Then you'd need the board itself ($200 Pedal Train), power ($200 Pedal Power), cables... So you might end up spending $1500 or so on a "small to medium" board. Still less than a Tone Master Pro.
But using the TMP would not be for people who want small to medium setups. By the end of the video, Dan has assembled a bass-oriented board with over 10 effects on it, which is a pretty large board. Might be overkill, but it might be exactly what a bassist needs in a gigging cover band to get the sounds and tones from a wide variety of songs. The TMP gives you over 100 of the world's most popular amps and effects at your fingertips, so you're not limited by those 4-5 pedals on a small to medium board. And although the majority of those amps and effects are geared toward guitarists, part of the point of this demonstration is to show that these are still viable tones to use with bass.
Finally, many bassists aren't necessarily "just bassists"; they're guitarists or multi-instrumentalists, audio engineers, studio owners, etc. Dan addresses this at the end of the video around 18:33. If you play bass and guitar, you wouldn't need to have your "small to medium bass board" and a separate "small to medium guitar board". This is an all-in-one solution. No separate power supply. No interlink cables. Fewer points of failure. No ripping up velcro to swap pedals in and out or re-arrange the order. A stereo looper included. Over 500 preset slots which is tons of room to build a setlist. On-board audio interface so it could be used as your one-and-only recording device. When you add up all the features it offers you, consider all the possible use cases, and it comes in a convenient compact package, the cost is justified.
Vox lab is 50 bucks.