For women, marriage is about rights and privileges. For men, marriage is about duties and obligations. If the husband cheats, the wife divorces him and takes all his stuff. If the wife cheats, the wife divorces him and takes all his stuff. Even if nobody cheats the wife initiates divorce 70% of the time, the most common reason: Princess is bored. There simply is nothing in marriage for men.
A lot of those 70% of men get to hear the line: "I love you, but I am not 'in' love with you". Then she takes half of your shitt and gets in line for the cock carousel.
Sorry but last study says the rate is not 70% its now over 80%, i think its even over than that because now men who divorce the reseaon most likely is her cheating, so it should be the rate of women divorce men is 80% plus men who divorce women who cheat which is the last 15% so its 95%, wow thays almost 100% your marrige will fail, single life happy life.
yep, it certainly is the "princess syndrom" , never enough ! , trying to reach the "queen status" ! , because as according to the ads ' we are worth it' ??
I’m 34, married and divorced twice, one child. My child’s mother kidnapped my son and still won primary custody. Society/ government/ women are telling men “ F you” and now men are finally saying “ F you” back.
@@themercifulguard3971 - for decades men have been mocked and ridiculed in the media, men are accused of all kind of horrible misdeeds and no one cares, even in close relationship men are not respected, wife's listen more to their female friends than thinking by themselves, society have no respect for men's wellbeing or interests, the best thing to do is simply walk away, when men are not good enough for women it is better that way
Walking away is what more Men need to do. It is our only defense. What Women need to do is to decry this BS. They also need to be loud and rude about it. I don't mean just a couple tweets. It took decades of abuse towards Men to get here. It will take decades of pushback from Women to get us back.
Manly men are still here, we just look at the women in western society today and say NAH I'm staying single, I'm keeping my wealth, my sanity and my self respect.
Amen! I'm 39, been divorced for 13 wonderful years and I'll never get married again. I regularly date women 22-29 while my ex-wife is now overweight and uglier by the day.
@@DHFlip18 More power to you my friend. I just turned 42 and I'm also dating mostly 20-something women these days. When I was in my 20s women ignored/rejected me, when I was in my early 30s I finally started having dates/relationships, with 27-40yo's women. Now in the past 5 years, I've been dating the youngest and most attractive women I ever have. Funny how it works that way!
Even if you did get married What do you win A divorce A sexless marriage An ungrateful, unappreciative, defiant partner An angry woman A woman who has been passed around Yeah no thanks Hard pass
I'm 71, homely, low income, in no relationship. When I hear of these issues, I am so grateful not to have to deal with it anymore. The heart ache is far behind me.
I was not a Chad, but I remember vividly not understanding all the dudes complaining about girls and often being surrounded by women :') not to say they were all there for me of course. But life was good. RN, everything is so f'd up and I've had so much shit going on that it's like I've walked into a bad movie. I wouldn't mind some nice female company, but it will have to feed off our baseline humanity cause daddy don't have the power no more. @tomjeffersonwasright2288
I recall feeling like a slave in marriage, getting the cold shoulder at night and working physical work 45-50 hours a week. Those were difficult times.
Not to mention that your 2nd boss at home isn't going to pay you for your efforts that she isn't satisfied with or only grudgingly so. At least your other boss will pay you even if he/she may not be totally satisfied with your labors.
Women made it clear that the majority of us men are not desirable or required. So, we men got about quietly pursuing our goals in career, travel, hobbies, spirituality and intellect. So, rather than ask “where” did good men go, ask “why” did good men go.
Woman: "Now that I am divorced, I don't understand why men my age don't want relationships leading to marriage?" Man: "How did your divorce turn out?" Woman: "I got custody of my kids, the house, alimony, child support, and half of everything, including his retirement."
true. my experience would take too long to type. I lost so much... and married again and lost even more. These men must have been the rare ones who benefited through marriage. THink of degrees for him but not me, my trusting nature made me easy to dominate. I do not like to think about it but someone has to speak up. Not all women are out to take advantage but get taken advantage of. People need to choose their mate so much more wisely. It is not easy either way. But do not let anyone pressure you. Never let that happen. That does not mean they :love You.@@lorrilewis2178
@@TheFarCenter My sister dumped a plumber because he was a plumber (he made over $100k a year) then she hooks up with a co-worker that made the same as her (45K)... I asked her why??? Joe (plumber) isn't educated and lacks class.....
The problem is that we have legally marginalized men. It’s harder for us to get jobs, go to college, or just about anything. The problem is that men are starting to realize that the burdens of marriage is no longer worth the sacrifice.
Interesting that you say that. Women can even murder men with far less punishment than the other way around as argues Janice Fiamengo, Ph.D. ua-cam.com/video/HFHK4HpVE1Y/v-deo.html
As a divorced man, here is what is kept hidden by all your teachers and investment people. 1) divorce will be one sided and the man destroyed by losing house, savings, land and forced to pay alimony. 2) family court does not explain how they divided the assets. They just do it and tell the man to go find two jobs to recover. Their is no transparency on the details - you might leave court with nothing and no place to live. 3) no one tells you the lawyers just take from your assets, they don't send a bill. 4) the man will lose the ability to see his own children. He has no documented rights - only right he has is to pay child support. 5) a criminal having killed someone will have more rights in court than a man in family court. 6) women get everything - even if she is cheating and wants out. The house the man may have had is considered a " gift to the marriage". 7) men are not told that women stops sex in almost all long term marriages. Men say they divorced their 1st wife because the sex stopped. Only to find the second marriage is even worse. They all pull the bait and switch. What idiot of a man today takes this marriage deal today knowing his odds. ? Don't marry any women with the laws the way they are.
My mother is in her 80's. Her generation was the last generation that respected and valued men and husbands. For over 50 years it's been nothing but misandry, male bashing and contempt.
Story 3: My mother works with a guy that was married to a woman that decided to leave him one day because she didn’t feel fulfilled anymore. He makes a lot of money, but he was ordered to pay a crazy amount of money in child support and alimony. Now he lives in a dangerous ghetto and hears gunshots every day.
College: Is this where I go to get 10's of thousands of non-bankruptible debt and get MeToo ed? Marriage: To quote Bill Burr, "Is this the line to lose half of my shit?!" Also, be alienated from my kids and enslaved by the state.
Then cry's when the male plumber comes around to unblock her toilet the male mechanic to fix her car, and the male carpenter to come fix her house, all charging $100 an hour
Men have realized that we can get most of the benefits of marriage by simply being in a relationship. If my girlfriend changes in a manner that I don’t like, I can leave without paying a “breach-of-contract” fee (aka alimony).
Absolutely she basically summed it up from that letter from divorced older gentleman. Woman today want to double dip and play both sides traditionalism or equality whatever is more advantageous In given moment. Almost without exceptions the majority of marriages I oberserve the men are subservient to the woman.
@@JoseDiaz-rd9fh Nine husbands in my family are subservient to their wives. My 82-year-old dad of course is not. He’s in charge. What’s funny is that women seem to love having a subservient husband but ultimately they despise and lose all respect for him.
A man, even a young man, can be financially stable in a skilled trade. Usually faster than a college graduate. Furthermore he is not limited in his earning potential if he chooses to start his own business in his trade.
One of my favorite movie quotes is from Good Will Hunting: “You spent 100 grand on an education you could have got for 1.50$ in late charges at the public library”.
Western universities nowadays run expensive boondoggling 'women's studies' degrees for malcontent new age women who despise their lot in life and become warriors jousting against the patriarchy 🤔 you see them grouped with other graduates, often at public demonstrations sporting purple hair and placards denouncing some fatuous cause 🫤
I applaud Suzanne for providing commentary on this topic, however she left out two things: 1. Successful men lose all power when they sign a marriage contract. 2. Women's propensity to divorce. I am a successful, married, engineer and this is what most of my unmarried peers discuss.
These 2 reasons are why I'll never marry or have children or ever deeply commit in a relationship. Somehow Suzanne misses these points, both this time and in a previous podcast and why I won't consume much of her material, she's ignores what's most important to me. Why the hell would a man put himself in such a hostile situation as marriage where he loses all the power and the ability to walk away with his wallet intact?
@@tmorrow321 She is a woman trying to convince men to return to the plantation and get married. Of course she leaves those things out of her argument, because it completely destroys her own argument.
Men aren't getting married because women aren't making themselves desirable either in appearance or behavior and they have ridiculously long lists of what they call "standards" that are in fact, just specifications. Even the cute ones seem determined to sabotage their appeal with atrocious behavior and demands.
We men have to have our list our of Standards. DON'T settle like a woman won't women need men as much as they may say they don't.. Guys DON'T GET MARRIED EVER EVER GUYS JUST DON'T IT until the Divorce laws and family law courts bias against men are CHANGED BOYCOTT MARRIAGE
@@patrioticaussiesams8581 not enough. It s a fondamental aspect. Marriage is basically prostitution sugarcoated with the gov forcing to pay women in the end. You promise to provide and sacrifice while she PRETENDS to promise to bear your progeny and sex. Which on is the easiest to enforce, verify, hide, deny? Marriage never were good for men because at base love for men is work. You are "loved" only if you bring/provide something.
@@jacqueandrew1033 Especially dump social media. Also learn to play that keyboard or guitar you still have but never learned to play. Go to the gym. Buy a camper. Teach your cat to walk on a leash (everybody will stop to talk to you). Redo your house to make it look like a man lives there. Target shoot. Hang out with your bros.
Men, do not hesitate for one moment to put a restraining order against your female partner if you feel your safety and health is in jeopardy. Placing a permanent restraining order on my female partner was absolutely the wisest protective move of my adult lifetime. My only regret is not doing it years earlier. Men, be safe!
Seasoned divorce lawyer here. C’mon guys! Step up and get married! What’s the worst thing that could happen? Seriously: stay single. Follow your passions. Live your best life. There is no need to get married and invite state law into your life and finances in the event the marriage becomes non-functioning.
I was married for 8 years. The whole time my ex wife just wanted to live and be around her mom all the time. She was miserable without her. Ultimately, she made up a bunch of lies about our marriage to validate her wanting a divorce. She was a completely useless wife but she still got some of my pension and some equity in my house. Thank God I was smart enough to not have kids with her. Been divorced and single for 12 years now. I’ll never get married again.
So happy for you to have gotten released from that emotional jail! Looks like you are one of the real survivors that made it away from that mercenary. I went through a divorce where I lost the house, the kids, my inheritance and paid a lawyer 50K for 0 results. When I see women now I see them for what they really are: MERCENARIES trained in seduction and expert in stealing all your assets over the course of a contrived marriage leading to her payday, divorce court! Good to see you escaped all this, stay strong and tell everyone you know, avoid marriage and those MERCENARIES that are only about what they can legally steal from you!
Same to you my internet brother! Me thinks these women cant escape KARMA, they dont want any accountability but there is always a bill to pay after you've treated somebody awfully, love to hear a later recap of how thoroughly your ex's life is now clusterfucked! @@Condemned439
Sounds similar to my ex. She couldn't wait to get away from her home area and her mom constantly involved in her life. I was in the Navy and had gotten transferred early to Norfolk. Once here, she laid down the law she was no longer working, and expected to be flown home every other weekend to be with mom. I should have had the marriage annulled as friends suggested. Instead I went thru 8 years of hell. In the end she got very little and I kept my house and regained my sanity. So much for the belief that one finds a good woman in church. Turns out there's a bunch of hidden wolves (leftists/narcissists)in sheep's clothing. Divorced 17 years now and not looking like there will ever be marriage #2. The amount of red flag woman is astounding. Give you life to Christ, gain a new heart, lose the foolishness and gain God's wisdom, and have your eyes opened. Women are still in league with Satan as in Genesis 3. Sadly, a great many men are like Adam and simp to them. It's near impossible to find a woman with a 2nd birth testimony, harder is one with 2nd birth testimony in Gen 3.
You picked a woman who hadn't individuation from her parents. Women also don't like men who are mommas boys. Why marry an emotionally and psycologically dependent person? That's on you, not women.
Gloria Steinhem said that, decades ago, today she is close to 80 and she doesn't look too happy, she married once and her husband died a short time later
@@kevinreily2529 More ironic the women that these young ladies listen to is female rappers /singers that told them if a man ain't paying up he gets no kitty..these women is Cardi B, Madonna, City girls, Beyonce, Amber Rose, Nicki Minaj, Lil Kim, Etc they all got married at one point while pushing this bullshit that these women follow!!!
Men are telling men to not get married because there is little incentive for the man to get married with many consequences. On the flipside, there are major incentives and minor consequences for women to get married. It's because of the LAW. The reason why men are stepping out is not the same as women stepping out. It's about the law.
whats the point in getting married? What I am getting as a man for getting married that I don't get not being married. Regular access to sex. That is a lie, I was married after about two years in the sex dried up drastically. You are better to not be married if you want regular sex from women. All I see is that when the woman feels like moving on she gets access to half your stuff. If you want kids, you don't need to be married either to get put on Child Support cause you are not going to get any custody of the kid(s). You will just be able to see your kids 4 days a month.
How many married men do you know who are actually happy? It is a death sentence for his sex life and add all the hassle and frustration and it is a recipe for misery.
"It's about the law." Not quite... really, it's about the laws these women wanted and DEMANDED. They got them, so now let them deal with the unintended consequences of those laws.
A good start would be to eliminate child support and alimony. With child custody it should be automatic 50/50. If she initiates the divorce and he makes more money, she is not incentivized and would think twice about getting out. If she was a hair dresser before, she can go back to that lifestyle after. Very few women want to regress financially once they have a certain lifestyle.
Story 2: My father used to work with a guy that was married and his wife decided to leave him one day. He went to family court and was ordered to pay a crazy amount of money in child support and he just couldn’t afford it. After being forced to live in his car for one month, he one day decided that he didn’t want to live anymore so he shot himself in his car.
@@TightNinja This happened in Florida and I’m in my mid 30s now and this happened when I was in my early 20s. Dude this happening all over the place. The best thing to do is not get married.
This seems to happen a lot. This should be the fifth or sixth time I have come across a man who ended his life because he could not bear being away from his children and/or could not keep up with alimony/child support and could be imprisoned or homeless if he failed to find the money
I believe you. It's happening everyday. There is no upside for a man to marry. None. I've seen so many of my friends over the years crushed by a divorce. Don't get me wrong. I do love women. I made a good living my whole life. No kids. Now retired at 55.
Why aren't MEN getting married? It's the man's fault. Typical 4th generation feminism. Where have all the good MEN gone? It's the man's fault. Typical 4th generation feminism. We are still out here! But if we aren't the woman's uncompromisable ideal man, we are invisible to her. Meanwhile, men are asking similar questions: Where have all the quality women gone? Not ones that have a triple-digit bedroom count. One that knows how to be a partner and not a dominatrix. You blame men, I blame feminism.
If the unbalanced divorce laws are not changed. Men are going to continue to walk away from marriage. Since there seems to be no movement in the direction of changing these laws. Then the downward trend will continue.
No one that have been granted a privilege have been willing to give it away again, and when women not even see the issue it will never happen, I think this all in all will make the life of many young men better, saving them from a miseable marriage and economical ruin
For marriage to work, both parties need to have equal skin in the game, else its a lopsided contract that can ruin a man financially and emotionally in an instant if it goes sour, which can be two weeks, two months, two years or two decades later.
Back in the 90's I went to school with an older woman who called herself a 'frst wave feminist'. One day she said to me, "You know the saying, 'If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen'? Well, we raised all sort of hell just to prove we COULD stand the heat as well as a man. Now all these young girls walk into the kitchen and whine, 'It's too hot. Turn on the a/c'. It makes me so angry. They don't want equal like we did. They want it both ways. That's not how the world is." Mind you, this was in the 90's so those 'young girls' she was talking about are now in their 40's & 50's. She used to go on about how her generation wanted equal opportunity: the option to do a man's job, do a man's work under the same conditions and meet the same requirements as men and then get the same reward & respect as men.... and now women want the bar to be lowered but still get the same respect and reward. Now that I'm pushing 60 I see what she was talking about back then.
Men aren't getting married anymore because we have figured out the game, and we have too much to lose in the feminist court system. Been there done that, own the t-shirt, bought and the hat. All a woman has to say is "I'm not happy" and you lose half your stuff, she keeps your kids, and you have to pay her until she takes a dirt nap. Now, as far as where have all the manly men have gone, the past two generations have been raised by single mothers. There's your answer, they don't know how to be men. It doesn't take a nuclear physicist to figure that out.
Someone be else commented similar to what I'm going to say, but it needs repeating, this woman completely misses the obvious, or intentionally refuses to acknowledge it. This isn't rocket surgery why guys are avoiding marriage. 😂
I was at a Walmart the other day. I pulled into a parking spot and the next row over was a woman with the hood up on her car and she was hitting the engine with a piece of wood. My son and I sat and watched her. My son asked me "You want to go see if she needs help?", I told him "No! Fish meet bicycle". She is a "strong independent woman", let her fix it. No more Mr. Nice Guy!
AMEN! In today’s world, we don’t want a woman to find it insulting that we would have the audacity to think that they couldn’t do it on their own! I see women now in the grocery stores muscling their own cases of water into their shopping carts, and I say that’s good, they should be doing that! Don’t take advantage of me by asking me to do it!
Hallelujah Brother.. Sperm banks should be male owned. Like a Dealership. You want a good GMC HD man 45k Paralegal / Bank officer 62k General Manager. 105k German business man 200k CFO 350k Elon Musk/ Lamborghini 650k. I'm not heartless there's a payment plan @ 29.99,% interest.
My mother just left my father after 50 years of marriage and took him for EVERYTHING, and she plainly stated that HE was no longer useful to her. My mother was a violent, selfish, self centered women for as long as she has been alive, her OWN mother warned my father that she would break his heart in the later years of their life together, prophetic. Marriage laws have made marriage a VERY bad idea for ALL men. I'm in the process of divorcing a free spirited women who wasn't satisfied with my love and attention alone, social media ruined my marriage.
I have been married 25 years but if she ever leaves me I would never consider doing it again. I literally get married woman hitting on me at work I am a male nurse. Happens way too frequently and although I would never even think of cheating I just don’t trust them I watch their behaviors and what they say to other woman. Always looking for the next best thing. As for the top 10 percent men they just don’t need to settle down as they have their pick anytime. All the benefits none of the responsibilities but these woman aren’t loyal anymore. The only good advice my father said was if they cheat with you they will cheat on you. Aside from this I am a Marine infantryman and bounced in a bar. I would never consider stopping a crime anymore or helping a woman with groceries or give up a seat or hold a door all of which I used to do.
Semper Fi, Brother. You raise an interesting point. It is a good idea to eavesdrop on Women talking to other Women. They do not hesitate to invade our privacy any time they want. Remember, the way people talk about other people who are not there is how they talk about you when you aren't.
I am cautious of holding doors for young women. They are intolerable and entitled. Grandma yeah. They have respect for the shield of humanity. Good luck young women we are not participating and I will tell men to be careful.
Why do you frame this as a "weak man" problem? Why is a disengaged, hopeless, confused man "weak" to you? Men are refusing to play a rigged game. That's not "weakness" in my book. We have no imperative to live up to these "strong man" standards that academics and women set for us. Call that weak if you want. I call it wise.
She still wants her Chad and Tyrone. So she's going to shame men into becoming him for her. Super predictable. A lot of women are scared in the back of their mind because we are not doing what Society expects of us and instead living our own lives on our own terms
It's a key part of the false narrative that women craft that absolves them of anything remotely approaching responsibility. The weak man myth and the strong woman myth are opposite sides of the same coin. Women can play their adolescent games. Men aren't coming back. They're happier without wives.
What is happening is men intuitively applying "game theory" even if they don't know what it is. When a player in a game perceives that the rules and opportunities/risks have changed they will change their strategy to try and achieve a better outcome. Marriage/Divorce is a rigged game so men are avoiding it and focusing on other ways to be happy.
Masculine men are still around I know because I'm one of them. The difference is men like myself are finally waking up to the realities of modern relationships and the basic reality that the juice is no longer worth the squeeze. Men who aren't collage educated were beaten up pretty hard in this video and it was unwarranted. A collage education does not mean that you will be financially successful nor does it mean that you are more intelligent, it simply means that you have an expensive piece of paper to hang on your wall (and in most cases are still paying for) to stare at and feel superior. I'm not a collage educated man my path led me to the military the Marine corps to be exact I ended up graduating the school of real life and i did so with honors. I'm currently 46 with no wife and no children (by choice) and after spending a great many years in long term relationships and always feeling like I wasn't doing enough to make them work even though I was actually doing way more then my fair share to make the relationships work I finally threw in the towel and called it quits for trying to find a woman to share my life with. A strange thing took place once I erased woman from my equation. I stopped being broke because I was no longer paying bills that weren't my own and that I had nothing to do with creating. I started enjoying my hobbies because I actually had time to do them and wasn't being sent on a guilt trips for having the sheer audacity of wanting to take a little personal time for myself occasionally to actually enjoy myself. I started spending time with friends that I really enjoy spending time with because I no longer had to go to events or dinners with people I had no desire to be around just because she expected me to or because she did not like my friends and either didn't want them coming over to see me or me going out to see them. I paid off my car then I paid off my truck then i decided to purchase a home and a couple of new bows and a few new firearms because I could and because I felt like it and not only was my dog fully in agreement and on board with all the decisions I had made he seemed to take pleasure and joy in my pleasure and joy. Now I have a six figure bank account and my investments are doing great. I have time to do the things that I want to do with the people that I want to do them with and there is zero drama, zero arguments, zero guilt trips and zero regrets. Basically giving up on having a woman in my life was the single best decision I ever made and my life has literally improved dramatically by leaps and bounds as a result. I have to thank modern women and feminism for waking me up and for slapping me with an extra heavy dose of reality, it allowed me to finally see and understand what women have been telling us and showing us men for literally the last 5 decades....... The juice is no longer worth the squeeze and woman have quite literally priced themselves out of the Market and men are finally waking up to the realities that 1. Don't buy expensive things you can't afford and 2. Don't buy expensive things that you can't afford that you really don't even want or need and have no practical use for and will only get more expensive and incure more cost and debt the longer you own it. If I had figured this out in my 20's I'd be a multi millionaire by now, I'll still be a millionaire it's just taking a bit longer but now that I finally figured out what I was doing wrong for so many years (women) everything is falling into place and picking up momentum and speed so ill be expecting to break the seven figure barrier soon and everything else is gravy. Mgtow best thing that ever happened to me. 😉😎
I prefer a blue collar man myself, that are fine to earth, they appreciate things you do for them, they are excellent fathers because they have more time.
JP thinks that men that dont marry are miserable. That you need the responsibility of a family. That you arent "doing it right" if you arent in a relationship, which with all due respect to JP, I totally disagree. Men didnt ask for this, but now we are here in women's bullshit and I am not willing to surrender my will to them. I am pretty happy alone in my world, and since you are so strong, solve your own issues.
That's typical women failing to think. Because SHE "feels" she wants a marriage to be happy (at least for the next 30 seconds before she gets "bored") then the man must feel the same way. Always amazes me that JP thinks that way, too.
I think one of the main reasons men don't want to get married anymore is due to the toxic feminist movement. The is especially true for women in western cultures. Plus, when it comes to divorce, the laws and court system favors women while it literally screws men over. There have been men who have committed suicide because they got such a bad deal in divorce. And the adage happy wife happy life could not be more of a lie.
It makes me laugh that women who have done a non-vocational degree consider themselves superior to non-college-educated men, even those with trades. A degree in a social science or an arts subject is not remotely equivalent to engineering, medicine, architecture etc.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 Well done for not understanding the point I was making, or is this a poor example of trolling? Are you someone with one of the non-vocational degrees I mentioned?
I have 3 rules. Never co-mingle funds, never co-habitate, never commit. If she leaves, then good riddance. She didn’t want me, she wanted something from me. Even if she wants to stay, my life has to be better with her than without her; otherwise, I’m out. We are both free to do what we think is best for ourselves. Also, I will not put at serious risk my life or health to protect a stranger. I will give aid when it is safe to do so, but I will not volunteer to be a victim. I am not disposable. This is what equality looks like. The restrictive Patriarchy is dead. Welcome to freedom and equality.
With this high divorce rate and the high rate of single motherhood there are many adult men who don't know how to be husbands and fathers. I can remember when the divorce rate started to skyrocket in the early 80s some social commentators were saying that there would be long term consequences. Those consequences have arrived!!
"... there are many adult men who don't know how to be husbands and fathers." ohh...look at that. It is men's fault. Maybe, just maybe that many adult women don't know how to be wives and mothers as well? Naaa, of course not. It's all men's fault!
@@JeffCaplan313 It's quite similar to how we view things in Islam Apparently, secluding oneself in a cave is better than to dwell in a corrupt society, as described in a story within the first 10 verses of Chapter 18 of the Quran
"she was stabbed 3 times" exactly. Men don't have a duty to get killed for random women anymore. The society has devalued men. That's what you get. My duty is getting home safe to my wife and kids.
Men gave their power away, it wasn't taken away. They were dumb enough to give women what they said they wanted instead of what they needed all in an attempt to curry their favor and now we, their posterity, are paying for it. But definitely, agree that a man has zero duty to protect anyone not of his immediate relation. There's literally no upside in today's society.
@@jr7392 exactly, I'm not risking anything if my wife and kids, and dearest friends and their kids, are not in danger/threatened. I have a family to come back to.
Western society F-ed up the moment they gave women voting rights. Women - as a collective - will always vote in their own interests while most men will vote in women's interest. A Russian Communist thought leader in the 1920s - I unfortunately can't recall his name - seems to have been amazed at the "mistake" the capitalist West had made and stated "we've already won".
When a wife decides she wants a divorce, she is usually looking at her husband's income and assets to see if he's peaked. Then she lets her divorced female friends know her plans and she will get all kinds of backing and advice from them. They will tell her that all she has to do is claim that he assaulted her and she will get a restraining order on him and government assistance. Then she can start selling his smaller assets and live in the home he bought while he is left homeless. His bank accounts will be frozen so he has no access to his savings and no money for an attorney, while she gets an attorney easily because attorneys know the court will order the husband to pay her attorney costs too. It's a win-win for a woman and a lose, everything for the man. Don't under any circumstance marry in todays corrupt world.
"The consequences are horrifying". Yeah, for women. Why would a man want to take a risk of being shot, stabbed or accused of sexual assault by intervening to help a woman of unknown qualities whose not his wife, mother or daughter?
This. I have two sons and my direction to them is if they see this happening to someone that isn’t a family member or close friend is to get to safety and call the police. Their life is not worth it and the space between being a hero and a fool is narrow. Too many men die or get injured in a lovers quarrel.
For all the passengers knew, people are so kinky, the woman on the train might have been enacting some weird rape fantasy scenario. Who knows these days?
@@kc6810 it’s a true story. Only video evidence saved him in the end. He only had good intent, and the woman cried rape. She was eventually found out, but faced no consequences. The guy lost his job, marriage and his good standing in the community after spending time in jail. This was a big story in Oz last year. Now men are learning.....let society burn
Why this is not an individual issue: 1. Family courts are notoriously pro women and many men have lost access to their kids. 2. The vast majority of divorced are filed by women. 3. Women have much more options than their grandmothers had. 4. Divorce is no longer the taboo it used to be. These are issues that all men face when considering marriage. Regardless of individual issues.
The courts make huge money from divorce. So why make it fair. They're having men pay for years. If it's me...I ain't playing I'd rather hangout at Shawshank. Library comes to you. Free gym, yeah bad food but the chances a modern woman can cook....nil. I'll share my food with Jake n Brooks.
@@coiledsteel8344 Asian countries are way more dangerous, especially India. Here women regularly assault cops and get scot-free. Male cops cannot even arrest a women. At least in western coutries men have lot more rights.
@@suebotchie4167 - that does not make any sense. When married you both work together to meet specific goals. You’re a team. It’s you and your wife against the world. If I was to compensate her 10k per month for her labor, than I’d like her to be responsible for half the mortgage, utilities, vacations, cars…etc. at the end of the month she will be paying a lot more than 10k. You have no idea how easy stay at home moms have it! I’ll gladly switch places. Let her join the rate race, work late and be the one responsible for the household. I’ll cook and clean, get the kids ready for school, do homework with them and get them ready for bath.
A male doctor would be happy to marry a lady he met at church, a nurse, or a service worker. A female doctor would only marry a CEO or a man of even higher status.
@@michaelsix9684 I have two female friends who are doctors and both are married. Most professional women are married, but there are some who have chosen not to marry. I work for a female doctor.
Men are tired of getting screwed. She cheats on him, then divorces him. She gets the house, child support, alimony, & has some random guy in the house he paid for that sees his kids more than he does! I’ve heard this story so many times it makes me sick! Men are done getting used as an ATM machine
Regarding no one intervening when the women were punched, raped, and stabbed in public: We live in a society where one will likely be prosecuted for defending one's own life or home. Why would anyone want to risk their life or jail for defending a stranger? The instructor of a concealed weapons class perhaps said it best, "Before you get involved, ask yourself, 'who am I willing to go to jail for?'"
People literally get arrested for stopping a homeless man from attacking their girlfriends or whatever. Self defense is illegal in most places now. Why would you go to jail for someone else?
Once again Suzanne stayed away from the financial hit that men takes from divorce whether or not his at fault. Marriage is a no win situation for men, nothing for men to gain.
I found it quite interesting that men on this video mostly complained about losing money as the biggest issue with divorce. Is money really the most important aspect of your life? And if it is, do you think that making money your most important aspect might have affected your past relationships with women? From experience and from watching others when either or both spouses make it about money, the marriage will inevitably fail. Money is never constant, it can come and go in an instant and life happens. Is money really worth more to you than an opportunity to find someone who will have your back for life? And with whom you can build a healthy and very fulfilling relationship with? I'm not trying to disregard any pain you've endured from your past but viewing relationships as financial transactions isn't healthy. This goes for women too. Me personally, I had much more financial-wise than my husband. But I did not care. I loved him and could see myself building a family with him and that's was all that mattered to me. And since then we've struggled from time to time. But we've always worked together to figure things out, so I know I chose right.
@@youtubecommentator6023you're delusional. The percentage of women who can and are willing to have a man's back for life is infinitely small. Spare us from your drivel. At this point, money is infinitely more valuable than 99.999% of you.
I am amazed at how all women suddenly pay attention on 'lack of good men' because it hurts them in the end. They turned a blind eye to man's pain and to the constant humiliation on every platform. It suits their self serving nature. They want men to intervene when women are at risk but there is no gratification for that in any form. They only need men for certain roles but they are not willing to pay the price for that. To all women who view this channel, just one woman speaking here about men will not change anything for men. The consequences you are facing now is a fruit of your own deed as a collective. You had it coming. Just don't cry a river here please, I am fed up with the lip service every woman offers here
I haven't been in a relationship for over 5 years and I don't miss it. I think a lot of us men feel the same way. Red pill saying applies here "The juice isn't worth the squeeze".
One particular thing I experienced and just noticed in recent years, is that women no longer appreciate or respect men’s sacrifices. They think they are entitled to it, and often demand it. My mother is in her late 70’s. Her generation was the last one to respect a man’s sacrifice. From my generation forward, it has been nothing but betrayal, lies, and deceit. I now counsel every young man I interact with to always stay single. I tell them my horror stories, and point them to the manosphere, red pill content. I don’t want any young man to have to go through what I did. There was nobody there to tell my generation anything. We won’t let that happen to future generations of men.
One thing that needs to be taught to young Men and Women is evolutionary psychology and sociology. Especially when it comes to intersexual dynamics. Let them know WHY things are the way they are. It will be hard as it is considered misogamy by the prevailing Paradigm.
Good for you spreading the word. I've told my son that I'd rather he not get married. This is unfortunate but I consider it my duty as a father to prepare him for the best life he can enjoy. If any other young men should request my opinion on marriage I'm more than happy to share it. Unlike when I was a young man, there was no one to guide and the older men might suggest being careful but wouldn't provide the details so that was useless. I don't want what happened to me to happen to anyone else due to lack of information.
@@fruitloops3718 The older generation really had no answers....they never really experienced what we did. The rules were completely different, and the societal pressures on women were still mostly in place when they were young and were getting married. Divorce was still taboo back then, and both men and women were ashamed to be on the government dime. After my first divorce, people just kept telling me "you just picked the wrong woman." After the second divorce, they said the same thing. And after the third divorce, the same thing. Shortly after the third divorce, I discovered red pill content, and in one weekend, had men on UA-cam tell me everything that happened to me in every relationship I had ever had....both marriages and dating. It was liberating to know that it was not a matter of me "picking the wrong woman." It would not have made a difference who I picked, because I was playing by the old rules....the rules of my parents generation, while the women were playing with no rules, no repercussions, and absolutely no care or feeling to who they emotionally destroyed. The hardest part of it all is coming to the realization that nobody cares about you. Not women....not society. You are all alone in this life. You have to know that people will pass through, try and use you for what they can get, then leave your life when you are no longer useful to them. This goes for male friends as well as women. I feel sorry for your son having to grow up in today's time, but hopefully, he will listen to what you are telling him and not go through the meat grinder of what people like us did.
Exactly. Women don't care what you want so why bother. They actually buy coffee mugs that have male tears printed on them and everyone's cool with it. What idiot of a man would risk his life for a society that has this little respect for his gender. Not me for sure.
I am 61 single never married man; no kidss. Many single mothers tell me I chose wisely! Others will ask or demand me to explain WHY I-Didnt get married? Why-did you u have kids as single woman? I wasn't stupid to get a woman pregnant! If you are Pro Choice? That was MY CHOICE!
I'm a very traditional woman in a non traditional ( California) state. It took me years to find someone who had the same values that I do. Like many of the men here I worked hard, had hobbies, friends and finally found the right person when I wasn't looking. I have high morals but I had many dateless years too. If I had lived in a more traditional state, I would have been married much earlier.
OMG, love this, this is hilarious. She "feels" that the men on the subway didn't help because they "feel" unappreciated. And that they did not make the logical conscious decision of the choice between, A) Help- get assaulted/possibly killed, blamed for toxic masculinity, get sued, lose custody/visitation with kids, lose job, lose money, lose pension, lose house, go to prison for a felony, get gang raped, lose any professional license to practice any profession ever. or B) do nothing and protect himself and let her protect herself as an equal citizen. Yup, no logic there at all, clearly an emotional response.
Here in Italy if somebody gets assaulted and you help you can get sued (most of the times it will happen ) for civil and felony counts. A criminal has nothing to loose , you have.
In a way, she's right though. The "brave and courageous" man that would stand up and help goes so unappreciated that there are laws against him. Which, of course, would leave him to feel even more unappreciated by society as a whole. The reality is men are under-appreciated. And sometimes it's such to an extreme degree that a man has to question his morality in order to decide whether to be helpful or not. That is NOT a good place to be in and it needs to change ASAP. Good men should never be punished, good women either. Our laws are crap and they're only getting worse.
@Suzanne Venker So women expect anonymous men to risk their lives to protect women strangers. Where were the women risking their lives for some of these other women? This is the selective entitlement of privilege women harbour, a man is only important when you need him to sacrifice his life. Men are now saying, “ If I am superfluous 99% of the time, it might as well remain the same for that 1% of the time you need me “. Why do women expect men to be disposable for women who are complete strangers, you are asking anonymous men to potentially die for you, because you see men as less value than yourself. Men are waking up to the fact that they have intrinsic value, and are no longer expendable or disposable for women or government. Women and government have relied on male disposability, to die in their millions over countless generations, now this is starting to change. The arrogance of expecting automatic male protection in an emergency, while totally disrespecting men for the rest of the time is staggering. I don’t help women or their husband government anymore, I see my life as just as valuable as any woman’s.
"Why aren't men getting married anymore?" Because it makes no sense whatsoever to commit yourself to a contract with someone who will be rewarded* for breaking that same contract. *And it will be you who will be forced (by the legal system and the government, under threats of violence and imprisonment) to pay that reward.
Not mentioned was the distinct possibility that if a man intervenes to defend a woman being attacked that he will be the one that ends up facing criminal charges.
I recently had to amend my "3 threats" training to "4 threats": Anytime you are involved in defending yourself or another person from a violent attack you face (at least) these 4 threats: (1) The threat of the attacker(s) or someone else maiming or killing you. (2) The threat that responding police may mistake you for the criminal and shoot YOU by mistake. (3) The threat that the DA may decide you didn't precisely follow the byzantine laws & case precedents on self-defense and therefore should be tried criminally, thus costing you up to $1 Million or more to defend yourself, and possibly your freedom if convicted. (4, new) The threat that the media/social media mobs will decide to label you as part of a hate group (normally with no factual basis) and do their best to get you fired from your job, alienate you from your family, killed by some nut job whipped up by their rhetoric, etc. In the case of the train rape, can you imagine what would have happened if a 50 year old white male had intervened and the rapist had ended up dead or seriously injured? "Racist white man kills black man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" headlines followed by Twitter mobs calling for a lynching, a DA filing charges.. So now, before helping anyone you have to ask yourself "Am I willing to die or have my life ruined for this person I don't know?"
I think you misunderstand, men don't have to do the 'labour' jobs anymore if they don't need to support a family. Why would they. They are hard, grinding jobs. They only need a side hustle to get by.
This is one reason why Dennis Praeger got mocked for telling men to marry because they make more money. What they won't say is: 1. They make more because they have more bills to pay. 2. They can't spend as much of it on what they want.
Yup. Unless you are or know you are going to be one of these top 20% men don't pay to lose. It's like a lottery ticket. Sure you might win the jackpot. But no you're not
@@johndb1860 "Yup. Unless you are or know you are going to be one of these top 20% men don't pay to lose." I would say even if you part of the top 20% of men, the odd are not on your side and the family court will not treat you any better.
Women don't care that fathers don't get to teacher their children about life. All they care about is that women get control! It make no sense for a good man with a good income, home, investments to step in and help women in trouble. And it's going to get worse. I encourage all men to stop helping and stepping in. Women can handle all of her own problems! My sisters kid, my niece is getting married and many of the men are missing from this event, or will not go.. I'm being asked to go. They haven't talked to me in 7 years and now I need to show up and drop off a gift and then afterwards no communication again. Makes me feel like an ATM. I'm just not interested in going.
Agreed I don't say this to be malicious but the bottom line is women need some major suffering to wake the F*** up. Playing selective privilege is such a load of crap
@@JoseDiaz-rd9fh heck yes . I have been in court or mediation for 20 years . 3 more to go and I won’t be speaking to her anymore . Instead of focus on my kids, I focus on getting away and escaping ftom the poop show
Why would I step in and help any of those women that they talked about getting hurt. You will end up like the one woman that tried to confront the guy... Get Stabbed for stepping in / up. No thank you, I have no reason or will to get possibly get stabbed for anyone I don't know. It does not matter that it is a woman, they have been tell me for decades now that they do not need a man.
I agree. I figure it'll take a couple of decades of women doing it for themselves before they get it. But regardless, I'm out. I was raised old fashioned. I used to be the first one to jump in if I saw a woman in need. No more. I'll call the cops if she is in danger but I won't get involved until I live in a country that openly appreciates the sacrifice that men make for society.
I got married at 33 years old I left her on the honeymoon after two days on honeymoon. She started telling me who will be my friends where I am going to work told me that she will be handling all the money. I asked her have she ever put money into my wallet. I told her to pack your bags I am taking you back to your father. No woman will handle the money I am making and you to give me what you feel I should have, No thank you I was done after that. I am very happy meeting women in other country's they know how to treat men so men get your passport and go outside of the United States and get your woman. You will be more happy for it.
My wife of ten years just left me for a truck driver who was living with another women (she kicked him out when she caught him). She’s now trying for alimony which means I have to subsidize her sex with another man. The question that should be asked is WHY SHOULD men get married? The answer is simple: The risk and dangers are simply too high for men to get married in a gynocentric society. I’m working on my THIRD advanced degree by the way!
@@lorrilewis2178Apparently so. "Unlike child support, which is common when divorcing couple has kids, alimony awards have always been very rare, going from about 25 percent of cases in the 1960s to about 10 percent today, said Judith McMullen, a professor of law at Marquette University. In one study of Wisconsin cases, she found it was only 8.6 percent." Source: Reuters article.
@@jim2376 Yeah, I get soooo tired of men bringing up alimony when it's pretty rare and most of the time temporary to boot. I know one woman who divorced at 55 and was awarded alimony until 65 when she'll be eligible for social security. But she had been married 20 years, had supported them both until her husband's business took off, and then agreed to quit her job so they could travel back and forth between the two houses they ended up owning. He also makes a lot of money.
Suzanne missed this, she thinks it has something to do with boys being raised by single moms or something, or that if we bring back manufacturing jobs that that will somehow solve the elephant in the roof issue. 😂
I just started following Suzanne's channel, 64y/o man, motorcycle mechanic, hunter, 16 years divorced, father and I'm the happiest of my life alone tired of the B.S. of what women think they want today!!
Rand - I meet your type more n more doing solo trips across the SW... I've heard SO many stories... I hate saying they all "sound the same" but really, it's the same theme over n over! Anyways happy hunting and keep that freezer full!
Ok I agree but also. I am now getting married, at age 28. I would have liked to have gotten married earlier, but all of my exes either weren't interested in marriage, addicted to porn, or did nothing except play games and couldn't even be assed to try to get a proper job. I agree that women are not accepting responsibility for many issues. But wtf, I'm sorry but we aren't going to marry basement dwellers either. Both sexes gotta step up and take responsibility.
The answer to both questions is that we have been told that we are not wanted by Main Stream Media/TV/ Films, so men have decided it is not worth to put there resources or liberty at risk to consider dating or marriage, But - Feminism Has Liberated Men by insisting that women are physically equal to men and do not need men. So men have taken that to mean that they no longer have to marry, they can take jobs that give them just enough earnings to be comfortable, by not having to support a family, to not do killing amounts of overtime working more hours than living, take on debt through mortgages, they can pursue any hobby, just by being a bachelor and interacting or not with women as the mood takes them. As for single fathers, they will do everything in their power to make sure that their daughters have have a female role model be it his sister or female cousin, but you will hardly ever see a single mother doing the same for their sons.
Marriage is terribly one sided deal for men. For example: if man stops paying bills for his woman/kids, she can take him to a court and get money. if woman stops having sex with her man, there is no legal way for man to get sex from her. Woman can literally bail on any duty or promise made before getting married and suffer no consequences. Man can literally suffer consequences of getting married for the rest of his life (she can sue him if he gets rich after divorce etc).
Thanks for reading my response, Suzanne. The rise in single moms is partly due to divorced women calling themselves single moms when Dad is still present and very involved with the kids. Women want the single mom status because it catapults them to instant sainthood. It also helps them to avoid responsibility when they fail to parent their children, or mismanage their finances. We do not expect much from single moms. We expect a lot from fathers. Many divorced women are not single moms. They are divorced women who are co-parenting with their ex husbands, and that is it. These women are intentionally ignoring the father's contribution to the child rearing process. This is so wrong because people believe that the kids are fatherless and that gives men and fatherhood a "blackeye." So first of all we need a solid definition of "single parent."
As a single mother who always made sure that my daughter was in full contact with her father throughout her childhood, paid my way without receiving any child support or access to his pension etc and never challenged him about his not contributing I really resent your simplistic reading of this. I mothered her well and managed our finances without applying for any welfare at any time. Why are women always in the wrong in your self pitying world?
@@joygibbons5482 Who initiated your divorce (who set the paperwork in motion)? There is a pretty high probability that it was you. Now, if you knew that he was going to get primary custody of your children and you were going to be on the hook every month for child support, would you have wanted the divorce? Every time I ask a woman that question the answer I get is "No." The consequences for men are more dire than for women. We do not expect women to take care of themselves or their children like we do men. Also, if he is that involved then there is a high probability that he is spending money on his kids and taking care of them. Another problem I have with your post is that you called yourself a "single mother." You are not a single mother. You are a divorced woman and you are co-parenting with your ex-husband. Calling yourself a single mother is neglecting to acknowledge his contribution to the child rearing process. When you call yourself a "single mom" you are saying "the child has no dad." Another problem I have with your post is that you act like you are doing him a favor by not impeding his ability to stay in contact with his kids. They are his kids and he has a right to see them regardless of how you feel about him. I am guessing that you ended up e=with the house. I could be wrong. Also, If he still dates he will be spending most of the money like he did when you dated him When you date men will be spending money on you. If you remarry, you e=will get another diamond ring. He will have to buy his future wife a diamond ring. This is not self-pity. When you have lopsided statistics like we have, then you know something is amiss with our system.
Women are "strong and independent", "they don't need a man". We men haven't stopped being men. Women have stopped being worthy of respect and empathy. I heard a women scream when I was downtown recently, and I went on my way. She can deal with her own problems.
@@suebotchie4167 incorrect. Men may have always treated you shitty, but - if true - you would have to be honest with yourself and ask the hard questions like: 'Who is the only common denominator in all of my personal interactions?' That answer would, of course, be you. But - go ahead and keep blaming others for your problems and see if your life improves.
@@machupikachu1085 people who get into a string of crappy relations, are usually the same people whose parents didn't trouble themselves to teach and protect their child/ren. Have alittle empathy, and have a nice day, dufus.
@@suebotchie4167 Men have treated women badly but they were not the overwhelming majority. But today the in the west, modern women are *overwhelmingly* divorcing husbands simply because they are bored and separating them from their children, make false accusations because they want attention or want a promotion or just feel upset about being rejected (gym creeps?, Amber Heard and so on), and the list goes on... So yes I have come across stories of men that have deserted their wives and left with their assets wben she was sick but all more stories of women (sometimes from their own mouths on TikTok) stating how they left a man who had no fault for some ridiculous reason and justifying it.
@@suebotchie4167 So kindly bear with me and a lot of other people in the Redpill community that modern women especially in western countries have collectively destroyed their credibility and taking your word for anything is extremely risky looking at the track record
Ok you've cleared this thing up for me now. A woman with $50,000 in tuition debt we got a degree that enables her to make $30,000 a year now thinks she's better than the man making 100k. Okay I got it LOL.
Yep. A union plumber or electrician is bringing down a nice pay check. But I guess a worthless (in some cases) degree, a piece of paper, is what makes the difference to these women. Insanity.
Or gets her college tuition paid by husband then leaves him. Some woman are opportunists. Other woman do want the happily ever after though and will go to school or stay at home with kids and even work to help their husband.
@@CruceEntertainment I see this a lot. Woman uses man while she gets her degree and then leaves him before the ink is dry on her diploma. If a man increases his income he will generally think about the good things he can do for his family but a woman starts to think she is too good for him now and how she don't need him. Act accordingly.
Only women have the ability to reverse that trend. But that needs work, and women who will work for that will be villified. The crazy train has no brakes, Suzanne, but bless you for being a voice of reason.
The pushback against this need to be even louder and more rude than the attacks have been. Force needs to be met with greater force. This is the way it always has been. Men can't do this. We do not want to fight Women. We want to fight FOR Women.
It's way past the point of no return. The majority of these indoctrinated women will wake up when it's too late and doesn't matter anymore or just deny it because facing the truth is too painful. There is something to be said for some hardship and suffering as it makes you a more well rounded person. We as men have created a world for women that is far too comfortable and they really don't need men. It would be fine if not for the lies of omission from mainstream media and even our churches willfully sending men to the slaughter house that is modern day marriage. Thank God alternative media has broken through the bullshit and as we can see when men have access to all the information they actually can make the only sane Choice walk away
Every woman I know votes to bind men. They claim that they would never use the laws they vote for but some women need these protections. Have it your way. These women who think they are good can hang with the women who do abuse men with the legal system. 80 years of alone is a long time when you hate being alone.
I saw Jordan’s interview on the Roommates, and as much I respect him it was obvious he is deeply out of touch with modern dating and gender politics. While I understand the importance of “focusing on the individual” and looking in the mirror to address your shortcomings; to ignore the massive societal shifts in regards to how men and women relate to each other is asinine. Forces at the macro level have radically altered how men view relationships and marriage and I’m not convinced the course can be altered at this point. Jordan is from a small rural town in Canada and has known his wife since childhood. He hasn’t experienced what modern dating looks like.
@@whenpigsfly3271 You can tell the kind of a tree by the fruit it bears. His daughter divorced her husband and posts underwear/bikini photos on the internet for attention while her father was in the hospital for eating pain killers like m&m's. Doesn't seem like a tree of wisdom to me.
@@charaznable9209 - He is a professor of psychology at U of Toronto. Why can't he heal his anxiety, or the mental problems of the rest of his family? Benzodiazepines can ruin your brain but Peterson claims they are "a relatively harmles ssubstance".
@@whenpigsfly3271 you gotta weigh the ideas on their own merits, from your own understanding. He says a lot of profound things, but to judge the ideas themselves based on the man is like judging the value of a coach for his ability to play the game. Him and his family is not immune to the struggle of humanity.
Don’t forget - skilled trade jobs are in high demand, pay very well and can offer deeply satisfying careers. They’re also highly male oriented. That’s a great place for men to go these days. Meanwhile, college is increasingly a game of diminishing returns.
Simple , there are no benefits for men . All risk no rewards . When the relationship ends , the man becomes an endentured servant . The wife holds the children hostage until her ransom demands are met and the courts assist the wife to bleed the man dry . Why would any man willingly sign up for this arrangement ?
Yup. I've heard of plenty of divorces where the guy has to fork over money to the ex for years after the marriage ends. I've yet to hear of one where she has to go over his house twice a week to cook, clean, and do his laundry. Apparently that maintaining the life they were accustomed to thing only works one way, so if you aren't the one who will get the financial benefit in the divorce, don't bother getting married.
It's very simple never sign contracts with someone who is rewarded with cash and prizes for betraying you. The state has enabled women to take half of all things a man has earned whether he's a butcher, baker or candlestick maker. There is no upside to marriage for a man.
Going through a divorce right now and it's just awful. I definitely have accepted my level of accountability and things I did or didn't do in my marriage and been working on myself everyday since but for her she drinks and parties and feels she's "not in love with me". Sad to say but media and the other divorced women she was hanging around need validation for their own life choices and continue to bring women down around them and then shout female empowerment. It's just sad and the kids are the ones who suffer.
Advice for you: take all that shit she blames you for and reduce it to 10% of it. Now, cut it in half. That’s probably the stuff that was your fault. I would almost be willing to bet on it. Either way, you will get through this, it will stop hurting eventually. Hang in there. Good luck to you.
@philomelodia thank you. It's been a while now and I see that. None of us are without flaws and it was unfair to leave someone based on those alone. We all have them. It's the modern woman bug where they get bored and buy into the shit they are fed about happiness and how they feel trumps everything.
Society has made it clear that it does not want men (or women) to intervene in law enforcement situations like that train rape. Anyone but a law enforcement officer who steps in faces three big risks: 1. He (or she) could be shot, stabbed, beaten or injured. 2. He (or she) could be arrested and charged if the perp is injured. 3. He (or she) could be sued by the perp or even by the supposed "victim" who might be in a relationship with the perp. Most people have obligations to their own families and cannot justify these grave risks for the sake of strangers. Society has made its choice and cannot now complain about the result. The MOST that can today be reasonably expected of bystanders is that they call the police, and even THAT exposes them to risk or grave inconvenience. If you stick your neck out you will be considered a fool, not a hero.
Add: If the perps are from a minority or lgbt you could very likely be painted as a racist or bigot by the rabidly woke media and tried by public opinion even if charges are not pressed against you
Why? The risk of divorce is too great. The benefits of marriage for men are gone. The risk to reward ratio is skewed. It doesn't make sense to marry for men anymore.
I'm sure that all of the estrogen that's dumped into their bodies during pregnancy does a number on the testosterone that drives everyone's sex drive. But there's hormone replacement therapy to help with that, and it's use should be part of any post pregnancy counseling that women get from their doctor
@Nidhi Roy I didn't say anything about exercises immediately post-pregnancy. I'm not sure where you're getting that from what I posted. I'm saying that long term post pregnancy, in order to counter diminished levels of testosterone, women need to get onto a hormone replacement therapy to replace the reduced testosterone and bring their sex drive back. As for the post-pregnancy sex thing, women need to recognize that mens primary interest in them is sexual. They were picked out of the available women because the man decided that she was the most sexually compatible mate. Women can either meet their marital obligation or, as you recognize, the man is going to find a partner somewhere. You seem to blame the man entirely; I think there are just as many women who shut down the fun factory because they now have the kids they wanted, or they grow restless with the man they're now familiar with and go looking for some strange. And the legal system rewards the women who make these choices to stray.
@Nidhi Roy Do you honestly think that men give up their freedom to be in a platonic relationship? If that's what you want, go to the SPCA and rescue a cat.
@Nidhi Roy Where did I say anything about a man raping his wife? I never said that. A woman should recognize that sex is a basic function in the relationship and not withhold it. It IS why he has picked her. A guy will put up with a lot of other flaws in a woman is she is good in the bedroom. A woman could be perfect in every other way and if she's lousy in the bedroom, he isn't going to want to be with her. The whole "can men and women be friends" rages here in the USA, and for the most part I think that many women are completely clueless about men in this regard. They seem to think that men think like they do. I will take a pretty good guess that if you're even a halfway decent looking woman, every single one of those male "friends" you have would have sex with you if the opportunity presented itself. Its a basic hardwired male function, and I believe that it transcends cultures. I'm guessing that the term cat lady doesn't translate well for you. It typically refers to a bitter older woman who waited too long for the ideal man to appear, and wound up in her older years alone and surrounded by a large collection of cats
As for women marrying men with "lower" status...well, bless you for trying but not gonna happen, at least not to a society-salvaging degree. We have generation Spinster right around the corner as millennial women age out of the dating market. This will not provoke self-reflection but rather cause them to double down on bitterness and spite. They will vote accordingly. One day, when they flip the light switch and nothing happens, they will finally realize what those men of "lower" status bring to the table. Not to be too doomer but honestly it seems too late to right the ship. People don't live in reality, they live in a media-created fantasy and they will only believe something is real when presented through that medium. It's going to be a rude awakening. As for the woman-hating compared to man-hating, agreed. It's not productive. The difference is that one side has social and legal sanction and the other doesn't. Again, for most people it doesn't exist unless they see it through a screen.
Well, the last 2 generations of men, mine included (I'm 51), were predominantly raised by single mothers. And grandparents. So you tell me what effect that has on masculinity. If women are today griping about weak men, it's because women raised those men.
I met this youngish woman the other day. Late 30's. Purely platonic ,but my heart actually went out to her. She is a surgeon and is making mega bucks. I mean mega bucks! She makes more in two months than most of us in a year. Has the great house in a great area and car to show for it. Never been married and can't meet men to save her life. I wanted to console her a little bit but knowing what I know now, I had nothing for her. She was screwed. Plain and proper. A couple of rescue cats are in her future.
Oh please. Something else must be wrong with her personality wise. There has to be another reason why. If she’s only looking for a man who makes as much or more, that the issue.
I am a "manly man" without a college degree. I own my own home, a truck, and I have a life. I am not wealthy but I am doing better than most women with these degrees. Budgeting must of not been in their education because they can't afford them and will end up enslaved to the machine.
Women don't want "good" men, they want exceptional men. Women are designed to go after the best men in their community. In the digital age, the illusion is that a woman's community includes models, actors, billionaires, entertainers, and athletes. (Tinder is a majority of women ignoring all but a sliver of the men.) That filter never shuts off, even after a woman gets married. Then we blame men for women deciding to cancel the marriage. By definition, there aren't that many high-status, high-earning, exceptional, super-athletic men. How can we convince average women than average men are actually above average? How can we get them to be proud of their regular old workaday men? If she's not proud of him, she'll discard him like a garment that's out of style. Maybe hire groups of women to feign jealousy and admiration of a woman's man in front of her so she'll feel more satisfied with her choice? Dunno.
What needs to happen is a reality check for women. Female 3's get attention on Tinder from male 9's looking for an easy lay-up to occupy the afternoon. Female 3 then believes that she "deserves" a 9, and is worthy of one and decides not to "date down". Until she understands she's a 3 and will not get (on average) a guy much above that to commit to her she'll continue to make bad choices. Research also shows the more men in her past the more she builds a composite "superman" profile to evaluate her current man against. Any new man has to be better in every respect than the best features of all her past men. "Chad had better abs, Bill made more money, Tom was better hung, Mike was a better dancer" and so on. The more men she's been with the less likely she'll be satisfied with any man.
On the issue of not helping a woman screaming for help... I read a UA-cam comment of a guy whose friend tried to help a girl being manhandled by her toxic boyfriend and the girl said the boyfriend was hurting her. Guy steps in, gets beaten up badly and the girl goes off with her boyfriend. Someone who knew the two later explained that the girl attacked her boyfriend and he hit her back afterwards. She lied so as to get another guy to beat up her boyfriend simply because she could not do it herself and did not even feel remorse that an innocent guy was beaten up badly because of her lie.
Being a child from divorced parents what I saw was mom telling lies that everyone believed it took dad years and lots of money just to see me with a stranger in the room when all he did was love us will never forget the hell he went through, his four grandchildren adore him as he does them grandma nowhere to be found never seen them but lives one hour away ,not all men are evil but women portray men as such and we are sick of it
For women, marriage is about rights and privileges. For men, marriage is about duties and obligations. If the husband cheats, the wife divorces him and takes all his stuff. If the wife cheats, the wife divorces him and takes all his stuff. Even if nobody cheats the wife initiates divorce 70% of the time, the most common reason: Princess is bored. There simply is nothing in marriage for men.
A lot of those 70% of men get to hear the line: "I love you, but I am not 'in' love with you". Then she takes half of your shitt and gets in line for the cock carousel.
Sorry but last study says the rate is not 70% its now over 80%, i think its even over than that because now men who divorce the reseaon most likely is her cheating, so it should be the rate of women divorce men is 80% plus men who divorce women who cheat which is the last 15% so its 95%, wow thays almost 100% your marrige will fail, single life happy life.
yep, it certainly is the "princess syndrom" , never enough ! , trying to reach the "queen status" ! , because as according to the ads ' we are worth it' ??
@@lappesjl1 This was my experience, and she got more than half when you include alimony and child support.
Well Said
I’m 34, married and divorced twice, one child. My child’s mother kidnapped my son and still won primary custody. Society/ government/ women are telling men “ F you” and now men are finally saying “ F you” back.
Men are slovly waking up, thanks to alternative media, not thanks to 'MSM' media which have betrayed both men, the population and our democracy
This is the way. You guys need to show your societies the repercussions for treating men this way lol
@@themercifulguard3971 - for decades men have been mocked and ridiculed in the media, men are accused of all kind of horrible misdeeds and no one cares, even in close relationship men are not respected, wife's listen more to their female friends than thinking by themselves, society have no respect for men's wellbeing or interests, the best thing to do is simply walk away, when men are not good enough for women it is better that way
Walking away is what more Men need to do. It is our only defense.
What Women need to do is to decry this BS. They also need to be loud and rude about it. I don't mean just a couple tweets. It took decades of abuse towards Men to get here. It will take decades of pushback from Women to get us back.
@@graywalkerjoin3rdparty74 I agree. Women need to hold other women accountable. That’s the only way it’ll change.
Manly men are still here, we just look at the women in western society today and say NAH I'm staying single, I'm keeping my wealth, my sanity and my self respect.
Manly men don't let women define manhood for them.
@Robert Blake one feminit commentary I read referred to men as..... shit!
Amen! I'm 39, been divorced for 13 wonderful years and I'll never get married again. I regularly date women 22-29 while my ex-wife is now overweight and uglier by the day.
@@DHFlip18 More power to you my friend. I just turned 42 and I'm also dating mostly 20-something women these days. When I was in my 20s women ignored/rejected me, when I was in my early 30s I finally started having dates/relationships, with 27-40yo's women. Now in the past 5 years, I've been dating the youngest and most attractive women I ever have. Funny how it works that way!
@@catsnchords I find many men state similar experiences that you and I are. I tell all my friends to stay in shape and don't be broke.
We're avoiding marriage for the same reasons we avoid high-crime areas, war zones, minefields, toxic waste dumps and nuclear test sites
Noice. 🏆
Well said.
Great analogy. I need to screen print it.
LOL
BOOM!
Even if you did get married
What do you win
A divorce
A sexless marriage
An ungrateful, unappreciative, defiant partner
An angry woman
A woman who has been passed around
Yeah no thanks
Hard pass
I won these three:
A sexless marriage
An ungrateful, unappreciative, defiant partner
An angry woman
How come you didn't see the red flags
As a married man you live as a hostage, moneyless and with no respect, when society hate and despite you it is better to go your own way
@@JJ-vp3bd Some women put on a show how wonderful they are, then change the moment they get married.
@@skylinefever so just vet them longer then? How long do women on average put up a facade?
I'm 71, homely, low income, in no relationship. When I hear of these issues, I am so grateful not to have to deal with it anymore. The heart ache is far behind me.
I was a Chad; now I'm a happy MGTOW.
I was not a Chad, but I remember vividly not understanding all the dudes complaining about girls and often being surrounded by women :') not to say they were all there for me of course. But life was good.
RN, everything is so f'd up and I've had so much shit going on that it's like I've walked into a bad movie. I wouldn't mind some nice female company, but it will have to feed off our baseline humanity cause daddy don't have the power no more.
@tomjeffersonwasright2288
50 years ago you had it good.
Who wants to work 40 plus hours a week for an ungrateful boss just to come home to another one
At least in the office you get paid to put up with crap. At home you have to pay and yet be treated like a servant.
This is why I chose to stay single for life. Ahh the solitude.
I recall feeling like a slave in marriage, getting the cold shoulder at night and working physical work 45-50 hours a week. Those were difficult times.
Not to mention that your 2nd boss at home isn't going to pay you for your efforts that she isn't satisfied with or only grudgingly so.
At least your other boss will pay you even if he/she may not be totally satisfied with your labors.
Never fell for that trap. Pity the guys the
Atdid
Women made it clear that the majority of us men are not desirable or required. So, we men got about quietly pursuing our goals in career, travel, hobbies, spirituality and intellect.
So, rather than ask “where” did good men go, ask “why” did good men go.
Leave them to the streets.
Yes, we kings are living our best lives.
20 years ago I would have stopped to help a woman along the road that was broke down. Today men are the ONLY ones that will get that courtesy.
Exactly 💯
Well stated.
Woman: "Now that I am divorced, I don't understand why men my age don't want relationships leading to marriage?"
Man: "How did your divorce turn out?"
Woman: "I got custody of my kids, the house, alimony, child support, and half of everything, including his retirement."
Hardly anyone gets alimony. Most women go down in income after divorce.
true. my experience would take too long to type. I lost so much... and married again and lost even more. These men must have been the rare ones who benefited through marriage. THink of degrees for him but not me, my trusting nature made me easy to dominate. I do not like to think about it but someone has to speak up. Not all women are out to take advantage but get taken advantage of. People need to choose their mate so much more wisely. It is not easy either way. But do not let anyone pressure you. Never let that happen. That does not mean they :love You.@@lorrilewis2178
@@lorrilewis2178 what are family courts like on Venus?
@@greyman6353 Do you have something to say?
Because they take everything that is not nailed down .
I think you miss the point that a college educated women making $30k a year will still look down on an electrician making $100k a year.
Exactly right, many women don’t understand the nobility in tradeswork.
@@TheFarCenter My sister dumped a plumber because he was a plumber (he made over $100k a year) then she hooks up with a co-worker that made the same as her (45K)... I asked her why??? Joe (plumber) isn't educated and lacks class.....
There needs t be a 'Snob surcharge' for these Aholes.
There are exceptions to the rule.
@@JJ-ps9xe Of course. In order for there to be a Majority, there needs to be a Minority. These tend to get snapped up.
The problem is that we have legally marginalized men. It’s harder for us to get jobs, go to college, or just about anything. The problem is that men are starting to realize that the burdens of marriage is no longer worth the sacrifice.
Or the risk.
And then laws and court favor women
Interesting that you say that. Women can even murder men with far less punishment than the other way around as argues Janice Fiamengo, Ph.D.
ua-cam.com/video/HFHK4HpVE1Y/v-deo.html
@@trevorstolz8580 They do everything with far less punishment.
@@52156drj That's a more accurate word
21 years old, I’m happy to have learned the truth of female nature and not fall into the trap
I am jealous. Learning about the chameleon female nature at such an early age is a blessing. Plow through the field but NEVER get trapped son.
I would advise a vasectomy unless you go monk. You are wise beyond your years!
your lucky
You're ahead of the game. Stay out in front young man
Never get married son..
As a divorced man, here is what is kept hidden by all your teachers and investment people.
1) divorce will be one sided and the man destroyed by losing house, savings, land and forced to pay alimony.
2) family court does not explain how they divided the assets. They just do it and tell the man to go find two jobs to recover. Their is no transparency on the details - you might leave court with nothing and no place to live.
3) no one tells you the lawyers just take from your assets, they don't send a bill.
4) the man will lose the ability to see his own children. He has no documented rights - only right he has is to pay child support.
5) a criminal having killed someone will have more rights in court than a man in family court.
6) women get everything - even if she is cheating and wants out. The house the man may have had is considered a " gift to the marriage".
7) men are not told that women stops sex in almost all long term marriages. Men say they divorced their 1st wife because the sex stopped. Only to find the second marriage is even worse. They all pull the bait and switch.
What idiot of a man today takes this marriage deal today knowing his odds. ? Don't marry any women with the laws the way they are.
This should be on a billboard!!
This woman is missing the key points...
This should be the top comment
Truly terrifying!!
This should be taught in school but we all know who’s in charge there
My mother is in her 80's. Her generation was the last generation that respected and valued men and husbands. For over 50 years it's been nothing but misandry, male bashing and contempt.
Exactly. This is why I am in monk mode myself. I won't even try to date them.
karma.
Facts
Wrong
Started in 1970
Story 3: My mother works with a guy that was married to a woman that decided to leave him one day because she didn’t feel fulfilled anymore. He makes a lot of money, but he was ordered to pay a crazy amount of money in child support and alimony. Now he lives in a dangerous ghetto and hears gunshots every day.
Sounds like a time-honoured American paradigm 🫤
I.wonder why?
Wow!from park Ave to east New york.
College: Is this where I go to get 10's of thousands of non-bankruptible debt and get MeToo ed?
Marriage: To quote Bill Burr, "Is this the line to lose half of my shit?!" Also, be alienated from my kids and enslaved by the state.
if you only loose half your doing well.
@@guesswhotoo6 Agreed. The divorce tax rate starts at 50% and goes up from there
Tens of thousands? Try hundreds of thousands
@SR Kidd, and Burr still got married.
Then cry's when the male plumber comes around to unblock her toilet the male mechanic to fix her car, and the male carpenter to come fix her house, all charging $100 an hour
Men have realized that we can get most of the benefits of marriage by simply being in a relationship. If my girlfriend changes in a manner that I don’t like, I can leave without paying a “breach-of-contract” fee (aka alimony).
Absolutely she basically summed it up from that letter from divorced older gentleman. Woman today want to double dip and play both sides traditionalism or equality whatever is more advantageous In given moment. Almost without exceptions the majority of marriages I oberserve the men are subservient to the woman.
Just dont get her prego
@@JoseDiaz-rd9fh Nine husbands in my family are subservient to their wives. My 82-year-old dad of course is not. He’s in charge. What’s funny is that women seem to love having a subservient husband but ultimately they despise and lose all respect for him.
Exactly
A man, even a young man, can be financially stable in a skilled trade. Usually faster than a college graduate.
Furthermore he is not limited in his earning potential if he chooses to start his own business in his trade.
One of my favorite movie quotes is from Good Will Hunting: “You spent 100 grand on an education you could have got for 1.50$ in late charges at the public library”.
Western universities nowadays run expensive boondoggling
'women's studies' degrees for malcontent new age women who despise their lot in life and become warriors jousting against the patriarchy 🤔
you see them grouped with other graduates, often at public demonstrations sporting purple hair and placards denouncing some fatuous cause 🫤
I like that ...
Do you like apples? Well, I got her numba! How do you like them apples??? 😂
@robertcarmosino6563 you forgot the F word😁
I applaud Suzanne for providing commentary on this topic, however she left out two things:
1. Successful men lose all power when they sign a marriage contract.
2. Women's propensity to divorce.
I am a successful, married, engineer and this is what most of my unmarried peers discuss.
Why would a man enter into a contract were a girl still gets cash and prizes when she breaks that contract for any reason she decides
These 2 reasons are why I'll never marry or have children or ever deeply commit in a relationship. Somehow Suzanne misses these points, both this time and in a previous podcast and why I won't consume much of her material, she's ignores what's most important to me. Why the hell would a man put himself in such a hostile situation as marriage where he loses all the power and the ability to walk away with his wallet intact?
@@tmorrow321 She is a woman trying to convince men to return to the plantation and get married. Of course she leaves those things out of her argument, because it completely destroys her own argument.
Why are you applauding her?
Spot on sir.
Men aren't getting married because women aren't making themselves desirable either in appearance or behavior and they have ridiculously long lists of what they call "standards" that are in fact, just specifications. Even the cute ones seem determined to sabotage their appeal with atrocious behavior and demands.
Desirable is not enough. They simply need to grow the f up and sttop considering men as human doing
We men have to have our list our of Standards. DON'T settle like a woman won't women need men as much as they may say they don't.. Guys DON'T GET MARRIED EVER EVER GUYS JUST DON'T IT until the Divorce laws and family law courts bias against men are CHANGED BOYCOTT MARRIAGE
@@patrioticaussiesams8581 not enough. It s a fondamental aspect. Marriage is basically prostitution sugarcoated with the gov forcing to pay women in the end. You promise to provide and sacrifice while she PRETENDS to promise to bear your progeny and sex. Which on is the easiest to enforce, verify, hide, deny? Marriage never were good for men because at base love for men is work. You are "loved" only if you bring/provide something.
so true, women look more like guys now, not attractive at all
@@jacqueandrew1033 Especially dump social media. Also learn to play that keyboard or guitar you still have but never learned to play. Go to the gym. Buy a camper. Teach your cat to walk on a leash (everybody will stop to talk to you). Redo your house to make it look like a man lives there. Target shoot. Hang out with your bros.
Men, do not hesitate for one moment to put a restraining order against your female partner if you feel your safety and health is in jeopardy. Placing a permanent restraining order on my female partner was absolutely the wisest protective move of my adult lifetime. My only regret is not doing it years earlier. Men, be safe!
How long did it take for the police to stop laughing in your face? Oh, you wouldn't know. You're not male. Thanks for wasting our time.
As an Aussie comedian once said ,don`t get married,just wait 10 years and give your house to someone you don`t like.
You could also flip a coin and give half your wealth to charity instead if it lands heads. At least the charity will thank you for it.
@@greyman6353 And give you a tax write off.
Seasoned divorce lawyer here. C’mon guys! Step up and get married! What’s the worst thing that could happen? Seriously: stay single. Follow your passions. Live your best life. There is no need to get married and invite state law into your life and finances in the event the marriage becomes non-functioning.
Need more men in the divorce pipeline? Those McMansions and Super Yachts dont pay for themselves........
There's nothing in it for a man to get married
@@rw-xf4cb marriage is not a good idea for most ambitious / successful men.
Yeah guys get married this lawyer needs to get paid during your divorce 🤣
Come on guys get married Jonathan needs a few more Ferraris. 😆
I was married for 8 years. The whole time my ex wife just wanted to live and be around her mom all the time. She was miserable without her. Ultimately, she made up a bunch of lies about our marriage to validate her wanting a divorce. She was a completely useless wife but she still got some of my pension and some equity in my house. Thank God I was smart enough to not have kids with her. Been divorced and single for 12 years now. I’ll never get married again.
So happy for you to have gotten released from that emotional jail! Looks like you are one of the real survivors that made it away from that mercenary. I went through a divorce where I lost the house, the kids, my inheritance and paid a lawyer 50K for 0 results. When I see women now I see them for what they really are: MERCENARIES trained in seduction and expert in stealing all your assets over the course of a contrived marriage leading to her payday, divorce court! Good to see you escaped all this, stay strong and tell everyone you know, avoid marriage and those MERCENARIES that are only about what they can legally steal from you!
@@gkauto1959 that’s crazy. Keep your head up. Good luck in your future!!
Same to you my internet brother! Me thinks these women cant escape KARMA, they dont want any accountability but there is always a bill to pay after you've treated somebody awfully, love to hear a later recap of how thoroughly your ex's life is now clusterfucked!
@@Condemned439
Sounds similar to my ex. She couldn't wait to get away from her home area and her mom constantly involved in her life. I was in the Navy and had gotten transferred early to Norfolk. Once here, she laid down the law she was no longer working, and expected to be flown home every other weekend to be with mom. I should have had the marriage annulled as friends suggested. Instead I went thru 8 years of hell. In the end she got very little and I kept my house and regained my sanity. So much for the belief that one finds a good woman in church. Turns out there's a bunch of hidden wolves (leftists/narcissists)in sheep's clothing. Divorced 17 years now and not looking like there will ever be marriage #2. The amount of red flag woman is astounding. Give you life to Christ, gain a new heart, lose the foolishness and gain God's wisdom, and have your eyes opened. Women are still in league with Satan as in Genesis 3. Sadly, a great many men are like Adam and simp to them. It's near impossible to find a woman with a 2nd birth testimony, harder is one with 2nd birth testimony in Gen 3.
You picked a woman who hadn't individuation from her parents.
Women also don't like men who are mommas boys.
Why marry an emotionally and psycologically dependent person?
That's on you, not women.
“A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.” Message received. Have fun by yourself. We are done.
Gloria Steinhem said that, decades ago, today she is close to 80 and she doesn't look too happy, she married once and her husband died a short time later
Did you know that the feminist who said this, are you ready? Married a Billionaire!
@@kevinreily2529 More ironic the women that these young ladies listen to is female rappers /singers that told them if a man ain't paying up he gets no kitty..these women is Cardi B, Madonna, City girls, Beyonce, Amber Rose, Nicki Minaj, Lil Kim, Etc they all got married at one point while pushing this bullshit that these women follow!!!
Intresting that the bicycle didn't need the fish either.....
Except men have realized they need women even less than women need them.
Men are telling men to not get married because there is little incentive for the man to get married with many consequences. On the flipside, there are major incentives and minor consequences for women to get married. It's because of the LAW. The reason why men are stepping out is not the same as women stepping out. It's about the law.
whats the point in getting married? What I am getting as a man for getting married that I don't get not being married. Regular access to sex. That is a lie, I was married after about two years in the sex dried up drastically. You are better to not be married if you want regular sex from women.
All I see is that when the woman feels like moving on she gets access to half your stuff. If you want kids, you don't need to be married either to get put on Child Support cause you are not going to get any custody of the kid(s). You will just be able to see your kids 4 days a month.
How many married men do you know who are actually happy? It is a death sentence for his sex life and add all the hassle and frustration and it is a recipe for misery.
"It's about the law."
Not quite... really, it's about the laws these women wanted and DEMANDED.
They got them, so now let them deal with the unintended consequences of those laws.
A good start would be to eliminate child support and alimony. With child custody it should be automatic 50/50. If she initiates the divorce and he makes more money, she is not incentivized and would think twice about getting out. If she was a hair dresser before, she can go back to that lifestyle after. Very few women want to regress financially once they have a certain lifestyle.
Story 2: My father used to work with a guy that was married and his wife decided to leave him one day. He went to family court and was ordered to pay a crazy amount of money in child support and he just couldn’t afford it. After being forced to live in his car for one month, he one day decided that he didn’t want to live anymore so he shot himself in his car.
My father just told me about a guy at his job that did something similar.... Not from the Midwest are you?
Man I seriously dodge a few bullets
@@TightNinja This happened in Florida and I’m in my mid 30s now and this happened when I was in my early 20s. Dude this happening all over the place. The best thing to do is not get married.
This seems to happen a lot. This should be the fifth or sixth time I have come across a man who ended his life because he could not bear being away from his children and/or could not keep up with alimony/child support and could be imprisoned or homeless if he failed to find the money
I believe you. It's happening everyday. There is no upside for a man to marry. None. I've seen so many of my friends over the years crushed by a divorce. Don't get me wrong. I do love women. I made a good living my whole life. No kids. Now retired at 55.
Why aren't MEN getting married? It's the man's fault. Typical 4th generation feminism. Where have all the good MEN gone? It's the man's fault. Typical 4th generation feminism. We are still out here! But if we aren't the woman's uncompromisable ideal man, we are invisible to her. Meanwhile, men are asking similar questions: Where have all the quality women gone? Not ones that have a triple-digit bedroom count. One that knows how to be a partner and not a dominatrix. You blame men, I blame feminism.
Did you even bother listening to the video?
If the unbalanced divorce laws are not changed.
Men are going to continue to walk away from marriage.
Since there seems to be no movement in the direction of changing these laws.
Then the downward trend will continue.
No one that have been granted a privilege have been willing to give it away again, and when women not even see the issue it will never happen, I think this all in all will make the life of many young men better, saving them from a miseable marriage and economical ruin
That's just the tip of the iceberg - the part that everyone can see. There is a LOT under the water.
Long live the society
For marriage to work, both parties need to have equal skin in the game, else its a lopsided contract that can ruin a man financially and emotionally in an instant if it goes sour, which can be two weeks, two months, two years or two decades later.
Your reasoning is perfect.
Back in the 90's I went to school with an older woman who called herself a 'frst wave feminist'. One day she said to me, "You know the saying, 'If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen'? Well, we raised all sort of hell just to prove we COULD stand the heat as well as a man. Now all these young girls walk into the kitchen and whine, 'It's too hot. Turn on the a/c'. It makes me so angry. They don't want equal like we did. They want it both ways. That's not how the world is." Mind you, this was in the 90's so those 'young girls' she was talking about are now in their 40's & 50's. She used to go on about how her generation wanted equal opportunity: the option to do a man's job, do a man's work under the same conditions and meet the same requirements as men and then get the same reward & respect as men.... and now women want the bar to be lowered but still get the same respect and reward.
Now that I'm pushing 60 I see what she was talking about back then.
Those women who are menopausal?
Men aren't getting married anymore because we have figured out the game, and we have too much to lose in the feminist court system. Been there done that, own the t-shirt, bought and the hat. All a woman has to say is "I'm not happy" and you lose half your stuff, she keeps your kids, and you have to pay her until she takes a dirt nap. Now, as far as where have all the manly men have gone, the past two generations have been raised by single mothers. There's your answer, they don't know how to be men. It doesn't take a nuclear physicist to figure that out.
Spot on comment
Damn straight. I raised two daughters and have seen what's out there. Mama's boys.
It's over bros, we are just waiting for the collapse at this point.
Not me, I'm sharpening the knives. @@Brujo2016
Someone be else commented similar to what I'm going to say, but it needs repeating, this woman completely misses the obvious, or intentionally refuses to acknowledge it. This isn't rocket surgery why guys are avoiding marriage. 😂
I was at a Walmart the other day. I pulled into a parking spot and the next row over was a woman with the hood up on her car and she was hitting the engine with a piece of wood. My son and I sat and watched her. My son asked me "You want to go see if she needs help?", I told him "No! Fish meet bicycle".
She is a "strong independent woman", let her fix it.
No more Mr. Nice Guy!
AMEN! In today’s world, we don’t want a woman to find it insulting that we would have the audacity to think that they couldn’t do it on their own! I see women now in the grocery stores muscling their own cases of water into their shopping carts, and I say that’s good, they should be doing that! Don’t take advantage of me by asking me to do it!
I would have walked over to her and suggested she was using the wrong kind of wood.
@@kaiserpuppydog7174 That's a good one!
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I have to pay for roadside membership services to deal with car troubles; she can do the same but usually chooses not to.
Hallelujah Brother.. Sperm banks should be male owned. Like a Dealership. You want a good GMC HD man 45k
Paralegal / Bank officer 62k
General Manager. 105k
German business man 200k
CFO 350k
Elon Musk/ Lamborghini 650k.
I'm not heartless there's a payment plan @ 29.99,% interest.
My mother just left my father after 50 years of marriage and took him for EVERYTHING, and she plainly stated that HE was no longer useful to her.
My mother was a violent, selfish, self centered women for as long as she has been alive, her OWN mother warned my father that she would break his heart in the later years of their life together, prophetic.
Marriage laws have made marriage a VERY bad idea for ALL men.
I'm in the process of divorcing a free spirited women who wasn't satisfied with my love and attention alone, social media ruined my marriage.
He was no longer useful because she had to take care of him. In sickness and in health means nothing anymore.
What does free spirited mean? Did you see this characteristic as a concern while dating?
I have been married 25 years but if she ever leaves me I would never consider doing it again. I literally get married woman hitting on me at work I am a male nurse. Happens way too frequently and although I would never even think of cheating I just don’t trust them I watch their behaviors and what they say to other woman. Always looking for the next best thing. As for the top 10 percent men they just don’t need to settle down as they have their pick anytime. All the benefits none of the responsibilities but these woman aren’t loyal anymore. The only good advice my father said was if they cheat with you they will cheat on you. Aside from this I am a Marine infantryman and bounced in a bar. I would never consider stopping a crime anymore or helping a woman with groceries or give up a seat or hold a door all of which I used to do.
Wow bro your experience speaks volumes to today's dynamic. 100% legit field intelligence...very sobering!
Semper Fi, Brother.
You raise an interesting point. It is a good idea to eavesdrop on Women talking to other Women. They do not hesitate to invade our privacy any time they want. Remember, the way people talk about other people who are not there is how they talk about you when you aren't.
Thank you for your service.
seen many divorces, and I'm amazed anyone wants to do marriage anymore
I am cautious of holding doors for young women. They are intolerable and entitled. Grandma yeah. They have respect for the shield of humanity. Good luck young women we are not participating and I will tell men to be careful.
Why do you frame this as a "weak man" problem? Why is a disengaged, hopeless, confused man "weak" to you? Men are refusing to play a rigged game. That's not "weakness" in my book. We have no imperative to live up to these "strong man" standards that academics and women set for us. Call that weak if you want. I call it wise.
She still wants her Chad and Tyrone. So she's going to shame men into becoming him for her. Super predictable.
A lot of women are scared in the back of their mind because we are not doing what Society expects of us and instead living our own lives on our own terms
It's a key part of the false narrative that women craft that absolves them of anything remotely approaching responsibility. The weak man myth and the strong woman myth are opposite sides of the same coin. Women can play their adolescent games. Men aren't coming back. They're happier without wives.
What is happening is men intuitively applying "game theory" even if they don't know what it is. When a player in a game perceives that the rules and opportunities/risks have changed they will change their strategy to try and achieve a better outcome. Marriage/Divorce is a rigged game so men are avoiding it and focusing on other ways to be happy.
She is a Trad-con, what would you expect?
failed clueless video: no mention of corrupted law.
Masculine men are still around I know because I'm one of them. The difference is men like myself are finally waking up to the realities of modern relationships and the basic reality that the juice is no longer worth the squeeze. Men who aren't collage educated were beaten up pretty hard in this video and it was unwarranted.
A collage education does not mean that you will be financially successful nor does it mean that you are more intelligent, it simply means that you have an expensive piece of paper to hang on your wall (and in most cases are still paying for) to stare at and feel superior.
I'm not a collage educated man my path led me to the military the Marine corps to be exact I ended up graduating the school of real life and i did so with honors.
I'm currently 46 with no wife and no children (by choice) and after spending a great many years in long term relationships and always feeling like I wasn't doing enough to make them work even though I was actually doing way more then my fair share to make the relationships work I finally threw in the towel and called it quits for trying to find a woman to share my life with.
A strange thing took place once I erased woman from my equation. I stopped being broke because I was no longer paying bills that weren't my own and that I had nothing to do with creating. I started enjoying my hobbies because I actually had time to do them and wasn't being sent on a guilt trips for having the sheer audacity of wanting to take a little personal time for myself occasionally to actually enjoy myself. I started spending time with friends that I really enjoy spending time with because I no longer had to go to events or dinners with people I had no desire to be around just because she expected me to or because she did not like my friends and either didn't want them coming over to see me or me going out to see them.
I paid off my car then I paid off my truck then i decided to purchase a home and a couple of new bows and a few new firearms because I could and because I felt like it and not only was my dog fully in agreement and on board with all the decisions I had made he seemed to take pleasure and joy in my pleasure and joy.
Now I have a six figure bank account and my investments are doing great. I have time to do the things that I want to do with the people that I want to do them with and there is zero drama, zero arguments, zero guilt trips and zero regrets.
Basically giving up on having a woman in my life was the single best decision I ever made and my life has literally improved dramatically by leaps and bounds as a result.
I have to thank modern women and feminism for waking me up and for slapping me with an extra heavy dose of reality, it allowed me to finally see and understand what women have been telling us and showing us men for literally the last 5 decades.......
The juice is no longer worth the squeeze and woman have quite literally priced themselves out of the Market and men are finally waking up to the realities that 1. Don't buy expensive things you can't afford and 2. Don't buy expensive things that you can't afford that you really don't even want or need and have no practical use for and will only get more expensive and incure more cost and debt the longer you own it.
If I had figured this out in my 20's I'd be a multi millionaire by now, I'll still be a millionaire it's just taking a bit longer but now that I finally figured out what I was doing wrong for so many years (women) everything is falling into place and picking up momentum and speed so ill be expecting to break the seven figure barrier soon and everything else is gravy.
Mgtow best thing that ever happened to me.
😉😎
Never her married…this guy is proof of same.
I prefer a blue collar man myself, that are fine to earth, they appreciate things you do for them, they are excellent fathers because they have more time.
Semper Fi
Join the Passport Bro's!
Nice comment, thanks. Staying true to your purpose and peace of mind is golden. When something in life doesn't add up, start by subtracting!
Congrats on becoming q dragon. What will you do with all that money once you die?
JP thinks that men that dont marry are miserable. That you need the responsibility of a family. That you arent "doing it right" if you arent in a relationship, which with all due respect to JP, I totally disagree. Men didnt ask for this, but now we are here in women's bullshit and I am not willing to surrender my will to them. I am pretty happy alone in my world, and since you are so strong, solve your own issues.
I have never been married, never cohabitated and I am very, very happy.
@@carlfromtheoc1788 me to , no wife no kids just peaceful bliss.
That's typical women failing to think. Because SHE "feels" she wants a marriage to be happy (at least for the next 30 seconds before she gets "bored") then the man must feel the same way. Always amazes me that JP thinks that way, too.
His own daughter divorced her great (her own words) husband and chased after Andrew Tate.
Women said they don't need men and they can do anything a man can do. So they can fight for themselves. Welcome to equal rights for women.
I think one of the main reasons men don't want to get married anymore is due to the toxic feminist movement. The is especially true for women in western cultures. Plus, when it comes to divorce, the laws and court system favors women while it literally screws men over. There have been men who have committed suicide because they got such a bad deal in divorce. And the adage happy wife happy life could not be more of a lie.
It makes me laugh that women who have done a non-vocational degree consider themselves superior to non-college-educated men, even those with trades. A degree in a social science or an arts subject is not remotely equivalent to engineering, medicine, architecture etc.
A degree = a degree in their mind. They do not think like you
FYI....many women have degrees and careers in medicine, engineering, law and contribute greatly to society. Crawl out from under your rock
@@wyleecoyotee4252 Well done for not understanding the point I was making, or is this a poor example of trolling? Are you someone with one of the non-vocational degrees I mentioned?
@@StimParavane
Lol...I have a 'vocational degree' towards my vocation
@Honest Addict Post Ban 3
Whatever you say dude. Just stating facts.
I have 3 rules. Never co-mingle funds, never co-habitate, never commit. If she leaves, then good riddance. She didn’t want me, she wanted something from me. Even if she wants to stay, my life has to be better with her than without her; otherwise, I’m out. We are both free to do what we think is best for ourselves. Also, I will not put at serious risk my life or health to protect a stranger. I will give aid when it is safe to do so, but I will not volunteer to be a victim. I am not disposable. This is what equality looks like. The restrictive Patriarchy is dead. Welcome to freedom and equality.
Well said, sir.
THESE three rules need to be engraved in STONE. Well said and thought out sir.
Magnificent.
What ya always wanted in the first place, so don't blame feminism.
With this high divorce rate and the high rate of single motherhood there are many adult men who don't know how to be husbands and fathers. I can remember when the divorce rate started to skyrocket in the early 80s some social commentators were saying that there would be long term consequences. Those consequences have arrived!!
no
"... there are many adult men who don't know how to be husbands and fathers." ohh...look at that. It is men's fault. Maybe, just maybe that many adult women don't know how to be wives and mothers as well? Naaa, of course not. It's all men's fault!
Women hate accountability and responsibility. It's Bane to them
Look more incels
"I´m not Jesus, I will not die for your sin!" and "I would rather live alone then a lie", that is where I am and has been the last 20 years.
Even Jesus didn't expect us to endure this shit.
“It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman.”
Proverbs 21:19
@@JeffCaplan313 It's quite similar to how we view things in Islam
Apparently, secluding oneself in a cave is better than to dwell in a corrupt society, as described in a story within the first 10 verses of Chapter 18 of the Quran
@@themercifulguard3971 ☪️ was correct about ♀️
@@JeffCaplan313 Of course it is. We Muslims ought to support a patriarchal society.
@@JeffCaplan313 Proverbs is old testament, not teachings from Jesus (but your point is well taken)
"she was stabbed 3 times" exactly. Men don't have a duty to get killed for random women anymore. The society has devalued men. That's what you get. My duty is getting home safe to my wife and kids.
Men gave their power away, it wasn't taken away.
They were dumb enough to give women what they said they wanted instead of what they needed all in an attempt to curry their favor and now we, their posterity, are paying for it.
But definitely, agree that a man has zero duty to protect anyone not of his immediate relation.
There's literally no upside in today's society.
They never shod have had the duty in the first place. It's grotesque to treat men like cannon fodder
@@jr7392 exactly, I'm not risking anything if my wife and kids, and dearest friends and their kids, are not in danger/threatened. I have a family to come back to.
That’s the individualistic feminist world they’ve socially engineered.
Western society F-ed up the moment they gave women voting rights. Women - as a collective - will always vote in their own interests while most men will vote in women's interest.
A Russian Communist thought leader in the 1920s - I unfortunately can't recall his name - seems to have been amazed at the "mistake" the capitalist West had made and stated "we've already won".
When a wife decides she wants a divorce, she is usually looking at her husband's income and assets to see if he's peaked. Then she lets her divorced female friends know her plans and she will get all kinds of backing and advice from them. They will tell her that all she has to do is claim that he assaulted her and she will get a restraining order on him and government assistance. Then she can start selling his smaller assets and live in the home he bought while he is left homeless. His bank accounts will be frozen so he has no access to his savings and no money for an attorney, while she gets an attorney easily because attorneys know the court will order the husband to pay her attorney costs too. It's a win-win for a woman and a lose, everything for the man. Don't under any circumstance marry in todays corrupt world.
No, it's not this at all, Suzanne already told you it's due to lack of manufacturing jobs and some other stuff. Get with the program 😂
"The consequences are horrifying". Yeah, for women. Why would a man want to take a risk of being shot, stabbed or accused of sexual assault by intervening to help a woman of unknown qualities whose not his wife, mother or daughter?
This. I have two sons and my direction to them is if they see this happening to someone that isn’t a family member or close friend is to get to safety and call the police.
Their life is not worth it and the space between being a hero and a fool is narrow. Too many men die or get injured in a lovers quarrel.
There's a retired police officer who has a blog that I follow. His advice to all civilians is if it's not your monkey then it's not your fight.
where 'nt their any equal women on that train ??? not one ???
For all the passengers knew, people are so kinky, the woman on the train might have been enacting some weird rape fantasy scenario. Who knows these days?
@@kc6810 it’s a true story. Only video evidence saved him in the end. He only had good intent, and the woman cried rape. She was eventually found out, but faced no consequences. The guy lost his job, marriage and his good standing in the community after spending time in jail.
This was a big story in Oz last year.
Now men are learning.....let society burn
Why this is not an individual issue:
1. Family courts are notoriously pro women and many men have lost access to their kids.
2. The vast majority of divorced are filed by women.
3. Women have much more options than their grandmothers had.
4. Divorce is no longer the taboo it used to be.
These are issues that all men face when considering marriage. Regardless of individual issues.
It's even Worse Than That For Men in Westernized, Feminist Influenced Countries!
The courts make huge money from divorce. So why make it fair. They're having men pay for years.
If it's me...I ain't playing I'd rather hangout at Shawshank. Library comes to you. Free gym, yeah bad food but the chances a modern woman can cook....nil.
I'll share my food with Jake n Brooks.
@@coiledsteel8344 Asian countries are way more dangerous, especially India. Here women regularly assault cops and get scot-free. Male cops cannot even arrest a women. At least in western coutries men have lot more rights.
It's called back wages, for all the free services the wife privided.
@@suebotchie4167 - that does not make any sense. When married you both work together to meet specific goals. You’re a team. It’s you and your wife against the world.
If I was to compensate her 10k per month for her labor, than I’d like her to be responsible for half the mortgage, utilities, vacations, cars…etc. at the end of the month she will be paying a lot more than 10k.
You have no idea how easy stay at home moms have it! I’ll gladly switch places. Let her join the rate race, work late and be the one responsible for the household. I’ll cook and clean, get the kids ready for school, do homework with them and get them ready for bath.
The only winning move is not to play.
Don’t marry them.
Don’t live with them.
Don’t knock them up.
Don’t give them money.
Walk Away.
Great advice
The legal implications of marriage to men aren’t worth the risk. Married once and I learned that lesson
Same here and I managed to cheat the rope
A male doctor would be happy to marry a lady he met at church, a nurse, or a service worker. A female doctor would only marry a CEO or a man of even higher status.
seen many female docs never marry, can't get or keep a man around, why?
@John Grigg In what universe?
@@michaelsix9684 I have two female friends who are doctors and both are married. Most professional women are married, but there are some who have chosen not to marry. I work for a female doctor.
@@reginasemenenko148 Not long hours ? The higher their job status the less likely they are to be married for most women
@John Grigg really? So do they do it to get kids into private school or what?
Men are tired of getting screwed. She cheats on him, then divorces him. She gets the house, child support, alimony, & has some random guy in the house he paid for that sees his kids more than he does! I’ve heard this story so many times it makes me sick! Men are done getting used as an ATM machine
Regarding no one intervening when the women were punched, raped, and stabbed in public: We live in a society where one will likely be prosecuted for defending one's own life or home. Why would anyone want to risk their life or jail for defending a stranger? The instructor of a concealed weapons class perhaps said it best, "Before you get involved, ask yourself, 'who am I willing to go to jail for?'"
Not to mention, if you "rescue" the wrong type of woman, you get sued or physically attacked (BY HER) for trying to protect her!!
People literally get arrested for stopping a homeless man from attacking their girlfriends or whatever. Self defense is illegal in most places now. Why would you go to jail for someone else?
Once again Suzanne stayed away from the financial hit that men takes from divorce whether or not his at fault. Marriage is a no win situation for men, nothing for men to gain.
were you surprised by such intellectual dishonesty?
I found it quite interesting that men on this video mostly complained about losing money as the biggest issue with divorce. Is money really the most important aspect of your life? And if it is, do you think that making money your most important aspect might have affected your past relationships with women?
From experience and from watching others when either or both spouses make it about money, the marriage will inevitably fail. Money is never constant, it can come and go in an instant and life happens. Is money really worth more to you than an opportunity to find someone who will have your back for life? And with whom you can build a healthy and very fulfilling relationship with? I'm not trying to disregard any pain you've endured from your past but viewing relationships as financial transactions isn't healthy. This goes for women too.
Me personally, I had much more financial-wise than my husband. But I did not care. I loved him and could see myself building a family with him and that's was all that mattered to me. And since then we've struggled from time to time. But we've always worked together to figure things out, so I know I chose right.
@@youtubecommentator6023you're delusional. The percentage of women who can and are willing to have a man's back for life is infinitely small.
Spare us from your drivel.
At this point, money is infinitely more valuable than 99.999% of you.
They mention money because it is the most obvious indicator of how the system is rigged in divorce.
"they never do become a men" When, exactly, do we accuse women of not being a woman?
This is good news. Men need to continue to drop out of a society that is anti male. Boycot marriage, relationships etc. Hold the line.
I am amazed at how all women suddenly pay attention on 'lack of good men' because it hurts them in the end. They turned a blind eye to man's pain and to the constant humiliation on every platform. It suits their self serving nature. They want men to intervene when women are at risk but there is no gratification for that in any form. They only need men for certain roles but they are not willing to pay the price for that.
To all women who view this channel, just one woman speaking here about men will not change anything for men. The consequences you are facing now is a fruit of your own deed as a collective. You had it coming. Just don't cry a river here please, I am fed up with the lip service every woman offers here
Exactly! The unicorns are changing tactic now we've hit critical mass....give them nothing and hold the line, we're winning.
Winning what?
@@jr7392 The same right to equality that women take for granted
The concern is not genuine. Stay safe and keep your distance.
@@StoneAgeWarfare correct! It’s about ME ME ME ME…. Fk the other person.
I haven't been in a relationship for over 5 years and I don't miss it. I think a lot of us men feel the same way. Red pill saying applies here "The juice isn't worth the squeeze".
One particular thing I experienced and just noticed in recent years, is that women no longer appreciate or respect men’s sacrifices. They think they are entitled to it, and often demand it. My mother is in her late 70’s. Her generation was the last one to respect a man’s sacrifice. From my generation forward, it has been nothing but betrayal, lies, and deceit. I now counsel every young man I interact with to always stay single. I tell them my horror stories, and point them to the manosphere, red pill content. I don’t want any young man to have to go through what I did. There was nobody there to tell my generation anything. We won’t let that happen to future generations of men.
One thing that needs to be taught to young Men and Women is evolutionary psychology and sociology. Especially when it comes to intersexual dynamics. Let them know WHY things are the way they are. It will be hard as it is considered misogamy by the prevailing Paradigm.
Good for you spreading the word. I've told my son that I'd rather he not get married. This is unfortunate but I consider it my duty as a father to prepare him for the best life he can enjoy. If any other young men should request my opinion on marriage I'm more than happy to share it. Unlike when I was a young man, there was no one to guide and the older men might suggest being careful but wouldn't provide the details so that was useless. I don't want what happened to me to happen to anyone else due to lack of information.
@@fruitloops3718 The older generation really had no answers....they never really experienced what we did. The rules were completely different, and the societal pressures on women were still mostly in place when they were young and were getting married. Divorce was still taboo back then, and both men and women were ashamed to be on the government dime.
After my first divorce, people just kept telling me "you just picked the wrong woman." After the second divorce, they said the same thing. And after the third divorce, the same thing. Shortly after the third divorce, I discovered red pill content, and in one weekend, had men on UA-cam tell me everything that happened to me in every relationship I had ever had....both marriages and dating. It was liberating to know that it was not a matter of me "picking the wrong woman." It would not have made a difference who I picked, because I was playing by the old rules....the rules of my parents generation, while the women were playing with no rules, no repercussions, and absolutely no care or feeling to who they emotionally destroyed.
The hardest part of it all is coming to the realization that nobody cares about you. Not women....not society. You are all alone in this life. You have to know that people will pass through, try and use you for what they can get, then leave your life when you are no longer useful to them. This goes for male friends as well as women. I feel sorry for your son having to grow up in today's time, but hopefully, he will listen to what you are telling him and not go through the meat grinder of what people like us did.
Spot on.
Women as a whole wanted this. I don’t care what women want and I’ve felt this way the past few years. They’re on their own.
Exactly. Women don't care what you want so why bother. They actually buy coffee mugs that have male tears printed on them and everyone's cool with it. What idiot of a man would risk his life for a society that has this little respect for his gender. Not me for sure.
Not me. Don’t throw the good ones that go invisible because we don’t look “exciting” with the ones you are acquainted with.
@@regulaguy1733 Somehow female tears are "strong" and a male complaining are "weakness" :))
I am 61 single never married man; no kidss. Many single mothers tell me I chose wisely! Others will ask or demand me to explain WHY I-Didnt get married? Why-did you u have kids as single woman? I wasn't stupid to get a woman pregnant! If you are Pro Choice? That was MY CHOICE!
Loss of manufacture jobs? What kind of car are u driving? That is why those jobs are gone?
I'm a very traditional woman in a non traditional ( California) state. It took me years to find someone who had the same values that I do. Like many of the men here I worked hard, had hobbies, friends and finally found the right person when I wasn't looking. I have high morals but I had many dateless years too. If I had lived in a more traditional state, I would have been married much earlier.
OMG, love this, this is hilarious. She "feels" that the men on the subway didn't help because they "feel" unappreciated. And that they did not make the logical conscious decision of the choice between, A) Help- get assaulted/possibly killed, blamed for toxic masculinity, get sued, lose custody/visitation with kids, lose job, lose money, lose pension, lose house, go to prison for a felony, get gang raped, lose any professional license to practice any profession ever. or B) do nothing and protect himself and let her protect herself as an equal citizen. Yup, no logic there at all, clearly an emotional response.
Expecially getting gang raped doesn't seem very promising as a prospect to help somebody 😂
Here in Italy if somebody gets assaulted and you help you can get sued (most of the times it will happen ) for civil and felony counts.
A criminal has nothing to loose , you have.
Laughs! PREACH!
In a way, she's right though. The "brave and courageous" man that would stand up and help goes so unappreciated that there are laws against him. Which, of course, would leave him to feel even more unappreciated by society as a whole.
The reality is men are under-appreciated. And sometimes it's such to an extreme degree that a man has to question his morality in order to decide whether to be helpful or not. That is NOT a good place to be in and it needs to change ASAP. Good men should never be punished, good women either. Our laws are crap and they're only getting worse.
@Suzanne Venker So women expect anonymous men to risk their lives to protect women strangers. Where were the women risking their lives for some of these other women? This is the selective entitlement of privilege women harbour, a man is only important when you need him to sacrifice his life.
Men are now saying, “ If I am superfluous 99% of the time, it might as well remain the same for that 1% of the time you need me “.
Why do women expect men to be disposable for women who are complete strangers, you are asking anonymous men to potentially die for you, because you see men as less value than yourself. Men are waking up to the fact that they have intrinsic value, and are no longer expendable or disposable for women or government.
Women and government have relied on male disposability, to die in their millions over countless generations, now this is starting to change. The arrogance of expecting automatic male protection in an emergency, while totally disrespecting men for the rest of the time is staggering.
I don’t help women or their husband government anymore, I see my life as just as valuable as any woman’s.
Well said!!!!!!
"Why aren't men getting married anymore?"
Because it makes no sense whatsoever to commit yourself to a contract with someone who will be rewarded* for breaking that same contract.
*And it will be you who will be forced (by the legal system and the government, under threats of violence and imprisonment) to pay that reward.
Beautifully stated!!! Rewarded for breaking the contract….so damn true!! Just keep a gf….no need to marry a commodity.
Not mentioned was the distinct possibility that if a man intervenes to defend a woman being attacked that he will be the one that ends up facing criminal charges.
I recently had to amend my "3 threats" training to "4 threats": Anytime you are involved in defending yourself or another person from a violent attack you face (at least) these 4 threats: (1) The threat of the attacker(s) or someone else maiming or killing you. (2) The threat that responding police may mistake you for the criminal and shoot YOU by mistake. (3) The threat that the DA may decide you didn't precisely follow the byzantine laws & case precedents on self-defense and therefore should be tried criminally, thus costing you up to $1 Million or more to defend yourself, and possibly your freedom if convicted. (4, new) The threat that the media/social media mobs will decide to label you as part of a hate group (normally with no factual basis) and do their best to get you fired from your job, alienate you from your family, killed by some nut job whipped up by their rhetoric, etc. In the case of the train rape, can you imagine what would have happened if a 50 year old white male had intervened and the rapist had ended up dead or seriously injured? "Racist white man kills black man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" headlines followed by Twitter mobs calling for a lynching, a DA filing charges..
So now, before helping anyone you have to ask yourself "Am I willing to die or have my life ruined for this person I don't know?"
disappointed in this CLUELESS vid, but not surprised
And what you failed to mention is that ALL of us agree that that is unfair. Why that is a law is completely beyond me.
I think you misunderstand, men don't have to do the 'labour' jobs anymore if they don't need to support a family. Why would they. They are hard, grinding jobs. They only need a side hustle to get by.
This is one reason why Dennis Praeger got mocked for telling men to marry because they make more money. What they won't say is:
1. They make more because they have more bills to pay.
2. They can't spend as much of it on what they want.
Many men are not willing to work the hard, grinding jobs because they have no incentive in a society that treats them as outcasts.
50-60 years of fighting patriarchy and no one wants to become a patriarch, what a perplexing mystery it is...
As a man you are playing against a stacked deck, we learn and avoid.
Yup. Unless you are or know you are going to be one of these top 20% men don't pay to lose. It's like a lottery ticket. Sure you might win the jackpot. But no you're not
@@johndb1860 "Yup. Unless you are or know you are going to be one of these top 20% men don't pay to lose." I would say even if you part of the top 20% of men, the odd are not on your side and the family court will not treat you any better.
Women don't care that fathers don't get to teacher their children about life. All they care about is that women get control! It make no sense for a good man with a good income, home, investments to step in and help women in trouble. And it's going to get worse. I encourage all men to stop helping and stepping in. Women can handle all of her own problems! My sisters kid, my niece is getting married and many of the men are missing from this event, or will not go.. I'm being asked to go. They haven't talked to me in 7 years and now I need to show up and drop off a gift and then afterwards no communication again. Makes me feel like an ATM. I'm just not interested in going.
Agreed I don't say this to be malicious but the bottom line is women need some major suffering to wake the F*** up. Playing selective privilege is such a load of crap
@@JoseDiaz-rd9fh heck yes . I have been in court or mediation for 20 years . 3 more to go and I won’t be speaking to her anymore . Instead of focus on my kids, I focus on getting away and escaping ftom the poop show
Why would I step in and help any of those women that they talked about getting hurt. You will end up like the one woman that tried to confront the guy... Get Stabbed for stepping in / up. No thank you, I have no reason or will to get possibly get stabbed for anyone I don't know. It does not matter that it is a woman, they have been tell me for decades now that they do not need a man.
I agree. I figure it'll take a couple of decades of women doing it for themselves before they get it. But regardless, I'm out. I was raised old fashioned. I used to be the first one to jump in if I saw a woman in need. No more. I'll call the cops if she is in danger but I won't get involved until I live in a country that openly appreciates the sacrifice that men make for society.
I got married at 33 years old I left her on the honeymoon after two days on honeymoon. She started telling me who will be my friends where I am going to work told me that she will be handling all the money. I asked her have she ever put money into my wallet. I told her to pack your bags I am taking you back to your father. No woman will handle the money I am making and you to give me what you feel I should have, No thank you I was done after that. I am very happy meeting women in other country's they know how to treat men so men get your passport and go outside of the United States and get your woman. You will be more happy for it.
Yo! How did she react to that shit bro I’m interested ..the absolute audacity!!!😳
@@christhomas6199 There was nothing she could do because l never give into females to make them happy. That's not a man's job to make females happy.
@@derrickdorsey4943 absolutely brother, that’s Gospel.
My wife of ten years just left me for a truck driver who was living with another women (she kicked him out when she caught him). She’s now trying for alimony which means I have to subsidize her sex with another man. The question that should be asked is WHY SHOULD men get married? The answer is simple: The risk and dangers are simply too high for men to get married in a gynocentric society. I’m working on my THIRD advanced degree by the way!
Hardly anyone gets alimony.
@@lorrilewis2178Apparently so. "Unlike child support, which is common when divorcing couple has kids, alimony awards have always been very rare, going from about 25 percent of cases in the 1960s to about 10 percent today, said Judith McMullen, a professor of law at Marquette University. In one study of Wisconsin cases, she found it was only 8.6 percent." Source: Reuters article.
@@jim2376 Yeah, I get soooo tired of men bringing up alimony when it's pretty rare and most of the time temporary to boot.
I know one woman who divorced at 55 and was awarded alimony until 65 when she'll be eligible for social security. But she had been married 20 years, had supported them both until her husband's business took off, and then agreed to quit her job so they could travel back and forth between the two houses they ended up owning. He also makes a lot of money.
Suzanne missed this, she thinks it has something to do with boys being raised by single moms or something, or that if we bring back manufacturing jobs that that will somehow solve the elephant in the roof issue. 😂
I just started following Suzanne's channel, 64y/o man, motorcycle mechanic, hunter, 16 years divorced, father and I'm the happiest of my life alone tired of the B.S. of what women think they want today!!
Rand - I meet your type more n more doing solo trips across the SW... I've heard SO many stories... I hate saying they all "sound the same" but really, it's the same theme over n over! Anyways happy hunting and keep that freezer full!
You have to appreciate the ability (?) of women to dance around any subject without ever taking responsibility, then turn the blame to men.
Ok I agree but also. I am now getting married, at age 28. I would have liked to have gotten married earlier, but all of my exes either weren't interested in marriage, addicted to porn, or did nothing except play games and couldn't even be assed to try to get a proper job.
I agree that women are not accepting responsibility for many issues. But wtf, I'm sorry but we aren't going to marry basement dwellers either. Both sexes gotta step up and take responsibility.
The answer to both questions is that we have been told that we are not wanted by Main Stream Media/TV/ Films, so men have decided it is not worth to put there resources or liberty at risk to consider dating or marriage,
But - Feminism Has Liberated Men by insisting that women are physically equal to men and do not need men.
So men have taken that to mean that they no longer have to marry, they can take jobs that give them just enough earnings to be comfortable, by not having to support a family, to not do killing amounts of overtime working more hours than living, take on debt through mortgages, they can pursue any hobby, just by being a bachelor and interacting or not with women as the mood takes them.
As for single fathers, they will do everything in their power to make sure that their daughters have have a female role model be it his sister or female cousin, but you will hardly ever see a single mother doing the same for their sons.
Marriage is terribly one sided deal for men.
For example: if man stops paying bills for his woman/kids, she can take him to a court and get money.
if woman stops having sex with her man, there is no legal way for man to get sex from her.
Woman can literally bail on any duty or promise made before getting married and suffer no consequences.
Man can literally suffer consequences of getting married for the rest of his life (she can sue him if he gets rich after divorce etc).
Divorce is a state enforced mugging where you continue to pay the mugger with a portion of your paycheck every month.
Wow. Gross.
Thanks for reading my response, Suzanne. The rise in single moms is partly due to divorced women calling themselves single moms when Dad is still present and very involved with the kids. Women want the single mom status because it catapults them to instant sainthood. It also helps them to avoid responsibility when they fail to parent their children, or mismanage their finances. We do not expect much from single moms. We expect a lot from fathers. Many divorced women are not single moms. They are divorced women who are co-parenting with their ex husbands, and that is it. These women are intentionally ignoring the father's contribution to the child rearing process. This is so wrong because people believe that the kids are fatherless and that gives men and fatherhood a "blackeye." So first of all we need a solid definition of "single parent."
Great point.
As a single mother who always made sure that my daughter was in full contact with her father throughout her childhood, paid my way without receiving any child support or access to his pension etc and never challenged him about his not contributing I really resent your simplistic reading of this. I mothered her well and managed our finances without applying for any welfare at any time. Why are women always in the wrong in your self pitying world?
@@joygibbons5482 unfortunately, you’re the exception, not the rule..
@@joygibbons5482 Who initiated your divorce (who set the paperwork in motion)? There is a pretty high probability that it was you. Now, if you knew that he was going to get primary custody of your children and you were going to be on the hook every month for child support, would you have wanted the divorce? Every time I ask a woman that question the answer I get is "No."
The consequences for men are more dire than for women. We do not expect women to take care of themselves or their children like we do men. Also, if he is that involved then there is a high probability that he is spending money on his kids and taking care of them.
Another problem I have with your post is that you called yourself a "single mother." You are not a single mother. You are a divorced woman and you are co-parenting with your ex-husband. Calling yourself a single mother is neglecting to acknowledge his contribution to the child rearing process. When you call yourself a "single mom" you are saying "the child has no dad."
Another problem I have with your post is that you act like you are doing him a favor by not impeding his ability to stay in contact with his kids. They are his kids and he has a right to see them regardless of how you feel about him.
I am guessing that you ended up e=with the house. I could be wrong. Also, If he still dates he will be spending most of the money like he did when you dated him When you date men will be spending money on you. If you remarry, you e=will get another diamond ring. He will have to buy his future wife a diamond ring.
This is not self-pity. When you have lopsided statistics like we have, then you know something is amiss with our system.
Women are "strong and independent", "they don't need a man". We men haven't stopped being men. Women have stopped being worthy of respect and empathy. I heard a women scream when I was downtown recently, and I went on my way. She can deal with her own problems.
Horse hockey, men have always treated women shitty. Feminism happened, because a few women were fed up with men's lies/abuse.
@@suebotchie4167 incorrect. Men may have always treated you shitty, but - if true - you would have to be honest with yourself and ask the hard questions like: 'Who is the only common denominator in all of my personal interactions?' That answer would, of course, be you.
But - go ahead and keep blaming others for your problems and see if your life improves.
@@machupikachu1085 people who get into a string of crappy relations, are usually the same people whose parents didn't trouble themselves to teach and protect their child/ren. Have alittle empathy, and have a nice day, dufus.
@@suebotchie4167 Men have treated women badly but they were not the overwhelming majority. But today the in the west, modern women are *overwhelmingly* divorcing husbands simply because they are bored and separating them from their children, make false accusations because they want attention or want a promotion or just feel upset about being rejected (gym creeps?, Amber Heard and so on), and the list goes on...
So yes I have come across stories of men that have deserted their wives and left with their assets wben she was sick but all more stories of women (sometimes from their own mouths on TikTok) stating how they left a man who had no fault for some ridiculous reason and justifying it.
@@suebotchie4167 So kindly bear with me and a lot of other people in the Redpill community that modern women especially in western countries have collectively destroyed their credibility and taking your word for anything is extremely risky looking at the track record
Ok you've cleared this thing up for me now. A woman with $50,000 in tuition debt we got a degree that enables her to make $30,000 a year now thinks she's better than the man making 100k. Okay I got it LOL.
Yep. A union plumber or electrician is bringing down a nice pay check. But I guess a worthless (in some cases) degree, a piece of paper, is what makes the difference to these women. Insanity.
Never set foot on a college campus unless you count community college and make over 120k a year.
Or gets her college tuition paid by husband then leaves him. Some woman are opportunists. Other woman do want the happily ever after though and will go to school or stay at home with kids and even work to help their husband.
That’s what mine did. I helped her finish school. And she ain’t around anymore. That’s what I get. I’m just a sucker.
@@CruceEntertainment I see this a lot. Woman uses man while she gets her degree and then leaves him before the ink is dry on her diploma. If a man increases his income he will generally think about the good things he can do for his family but a woman starts to think she is too good for him now and how she don't need him. Act accordingly.
By "high achieving women" you mean women with student debt working in HR with superiority complex.
Only women have the ability to reverse that trend. But that needs work, and women who will work for that will be villified. The crazy train has no brakes, Suzanne, but bless you for being a voice of reason.
The pushback against this need to be even louder and more rude than the attacks have been. Force needs to be met with greater force. This is the way it always has been. Men can't do this. We do not want to fight Women. We want to fight FOR Women.
Waaaaay too little too late.
It's way past the point of no return. The majority of these indoctrinated women will wake up when it's too late and doesn't matter anymore or just deny it because facing the truth is too painful. There is something to be said for some hardship and suffering as it makes you a more well rounded person. We as men have created a world for women that is far too comfortable and they really don't need men. It would be fine if not for the lies of omission from mainstream media and even our churches willfully sending men to the slaughter house that is modern day marriage. Thank God alternative media has broken through the bullshit and as we can see when men have access to all the information they actually can make the only sane Choice walk away
'The crazy train has no breaks'. That's good.
Every woman I know votes to bind men. They claim that they would never use the laws they vote for but some women need these protections. Have it your way. These women who think they are good can hang with the women who do abuse men with the legal system. 80 years of alone is a long time when you hate being alone.
I saw Jordan’s interview on the Roommates, and as much I respect him it was obvious he is deeply out of touch with modern dating and gender politics. While I understand the importance of “focusing on the individual” and looking in the mirror to address your shortcomings; to ignore the massive societal shifts in regards to how men and women relate to each other is asinine. Forces at the macro level have radically altered how men view relationships and marriage and I’m not convinced the course can be altered at this point. Jordan is from a small rural town in Canada and has known his wife since childhood. He hasn’t experienced what modern dating looks like.
Jordan is a brilliant man but no man can be an expert in every subject of interpersonal relationships.
Seriously. Jordan Peterson is a raving lunatic. With your finger on the pause button, carefully consider each statement he makes. You'll see.
@@whenpigsfly3271 You can tell the kind of a tree by the fruit it bears. His daughter divorced her husband and posts underwear/bikini photos on the internet for attention while her father was in the hospital for eating pain killers like m&m's. Doesn't seem like a tree of wisdom to me.
@@charaznable9209 - He is a professor of psychology at U of Toronto. Why can't he heal his anxiety, or the mental problems of the rest of his family? Benzodiazepines can ruin your brain but Peterson claims they are "a relatively harmles ssubstance".
@@whenpigsfly3271 you gotta weigh the ideas on their own merits, from your own understanding. He says a lot of profound things, but to judge the ideas themselves based on the man is like judging the value of a coach for his ability to play the game. Him and his family is not immune to the struggle of humanity.
Don’t forget - skilled trade jobs are in high demand, pay very well and can offer deeply satisfying careers.
They’re also highly male oriented.
That’s a great place for men to go these days.
Meanwhile, college is increasingly a game of diminishing returns.
Simple , there are no benefits for men . All risk no rewards . When the relationship ends , the man becomes an endentured servant . The wife holds the children hostage until her ransom demands are met and the courts assist the wife to bleed the man dry . Why would any man willingly sign up for this arrangement ?
Yup. I've heard of plenty of divorces where the guy has to fork over money to the ex for years after the marriage ends. I've yet to hear of one where she has to go over his house twice a week to cook, clean, and do his laundry. Apparently that maintaining the life they were accustomed to thing only works one way, so if you aren't the one who will get the financial benefit in the divorce, don't bother getting married.
he is always a servent ! the men forever have been the prolitariet and the women always have been the bourgoisie profiting on their labour
The situation with masculine women is just as big as the problem with feminine men, and just as much of a turn off to men.
It's very simple never sign contracts with someone who is rewarded with cash and prizes for betraying you. The state has enabled women to take half of all things a man has earned whether he's a butcher, baker or candlestick maker. There is no upside to marriage for a man.
Going through a divorce right now and it's just awful. I definitely have accepted my level of accountability and things I did or didn't do in my marriage and been working on myself everyday since but for her she drinks and parties and feels she's "not in love with me". Sad to say but media and the other divorced women she was hanging around need validation for their own life choices and continue to bring women down around them and then shout female empowerment. It's just sad and the kids are the ones who suffer.
I was in your shoes 25 years ago, but never gave in to another womans marriage BS again.....I was redpilled before it even had a name.
If she is drinking, partying, hanging with divorced women then it is 100% that she has been cheating on you for quite some time
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Advice for you: take all that shit she blames you for and reduce it to 10% of it. Now, cut it in half. That’s probably the stuff that was your fault. I would almost be willing to bet on it. Either way, you will get through this, it will stop hurting eventually. Hang in there. Good luck to you.
@philomelodia thank you. It's been a while now and I see that. None of us are without flaws and it was unfair to leave someone based on those alone. We all have them. It's the modern woman bug where they get bored and buy into the shit they are fed about happiness and how they feel trumps everything.
Society has made it clear that it does not want men (or women) to intervene in law enforcement situations like that train rape. Anyone but a law enforcement officer who steps in faces three big risks: 1. He (or she) could be shot, stabbed, beaten or injured. 2. He (or she) could be arrested and charged if the perp is injured. 3. He (or she) could be sued by the perp or even by the supposed "victim" who might be in a relationship with the perp. Most people have obligations to their own families and cannot justify these grave risks for the sake of strangers. Society has made its choice and cannot now complain about the result. The MOST that can today be reasonably expected of bystanders is that they call the police, and even THAT exposes them to risk or grave inconvenience. If you stick your neck out you will be considered a fool, not a hero.
Well put!
You NAILED it!
Add: If the perps are from a minority or lgbt you could very likely be painted as a racist or bigot by the rabidly woke media and tried by public opinion even if charges are not pressed against you
@@greyman6353 Too right, unfortunately.
Men aren't getting married because they know it is like diving into a wood chipper.
Why? The risk of divorce is too great. The benefits of marriage for men are gone. The risk to reward ratio is skewed. It doesn't make sense to marry for men anymore.
Studies showed that a woman's sex drive goes steadily down after marriage.
I'm sure that all of the estrogen that's dumped into their bodies during pregnancy does a number on the testosterone that drives everyone's sex drive. But there's hormone replacement therapy to help with that, and it's use should be part of any post pregnancy counseling that women get from their doctor
@Nidhi Roy I didn't say anything about exercises immediately post-pregnancy. I'm not sure where you're getting that from what I posted. I'm saying that long term post pregnancy, in order to counter diminished levels of testosterone, women need to get onto a hormone replacement therapy to replace the reduced testosterone and bring their sex drive back.
As for the post-pregnancy sex thing, women need to recognize that mens primary interest in them is sexual. They were picked out of the available women because the man decided that she was the most sexually compatible mate. Women can either meet their marital obligation or, as you recognize, the man is going to find a partner somewhere. You seem to blame the man entirely; I think there are just as many women who shut down the fun factory because they now have the kids they wanted, or they grow restless with the man they're now familiar with and go looking for some strange. And the legal system rewards the women who make these choices to stray.
@Nidhi Roy Do you honestly think that men give up their freedom to be in a platonic relationship? If that's what you want, go to the SPCA and rescue a cat.
@Nidhi Roy Where did I say anything about a man raping his wife? I never said that. A woman should recognize that sex is a basic function in the relationship and not withhold it. It IS why he has picked her. A guy will put up with a lot of other flaws in a woman is she is good in the bedroom. A woman could be perfect in every other way and if she's lousy in the bedroom, he isn't going to want to be with her.
The whole "can men and women be friends" rages here in the USA, and for the most part I think that many women are completely clueless about men in this regard. They seem to think that men think like they do. I will take a pretty good guess that if you're even a halfway decent looking woman, every single one of those male "friends" you have would have sex with you if the opportunity presented itself. Its a basic hardwired male function, and I believe that it transcends cultures.
I'm guessing that the term cat lady doesn't translate well for you. It typically refers to a bitter older woman who waited too long for the ideal man to appear, and wound up in her older years alone and surrounded by a large collection of cats
As for women marrying men with "lower" status...well, bless you for trying but not gonna happen, at least not to a society-salvaging degree. We have generation Spinster right around the corner as millennial women age out of the dating market. This will not provoke self-reflection but rather cause them to double down on bitterness and spite. They will vote accordingly.
One day, when they flip the light switch and nothing happens, they will finally realize what those men of "lower" status bring to the table. Not to be too doomer but honestly it seems too late to right the ship. People don't live in reality, they live in a media-created fantasy and they will only believe something is real when presented through that medium. It's going to be a rude awakening.
As for the woman-hating compared to man-hating, agreed. It's not productive. The difference is that one side has social and legal sanction and the other doesn't. Again, for most people it doesn't exist unless they see it through a screen.
The simple fact that they are so obsessed with status simply proves that they are incapable of love.
@@THX5000 they are....evolutionary wired for status,, wealth, and appearance. Love is a notion to appeal to the idealist fantasy in men.
@@johngalt6838 thankfully men are slowly waking up to these facts
@@THX5000 I would say men are quickly waking up to the facts.
What is called 'Love' in Humans is called 'Pair-Bonding' in 'lower' animals. The CC wrecks this in both Women and the ponies they ride.
Well, the last 2 generations of men, mine included (I'm 51), were predominantly raised by single mothers. And grandparents. So you tell me what effect that has on masculinity. If women are today griping about weak men, it's because women raised those men.
I met this youngish woman the other day. Late 30's. Purely platonic ,but my heart actually went out to her. She is a surgeon and is making mega bucks. I mean mega bucks! She makes more in two months than most of us in a year. Has the great house in a great area and car to show for it. Never been married and can't meet men to save her life. I wanted to console her a little bit but knowing what I know now, I had nothing for her. She was screwed. Plain and proper. A couple of rescue cats are in her future.
Cat food Sales are through the roof.
Is she miserable
She should marry a school janitor and humble herself!
The strong independent woman. The effinist movement is proud of her
Oh please. Something else must be wrong with her personality wise. There has to be another reason why. If she’s only looking for a man who makes as much or more, that the issue.
I am a "manly man" without a college degree. I own my own home, a truck, and I have a life. I am not wealthy but I am doing better than most women with these degrees. Budgeting must of not been in their education because they can't afford them and will end up enslaved to the machine.
Plus some of the women with degrees have student loans that they are trying to pay off.
Feminism opened men eyes to see the real nature of women . Secondly, if the odds are against you in a game. Then, the smartest move is not to play.
As masculine men we’re practicing the art of war. “When your enemy is of choleric temper don’t interrupt him”. Sun tzu
Women don't want "good" men, they want exceptional men. Women are designed to go after the best men in their community. In the digital age, the illusion is that a woman's community includes models, actors, billionaires, entertainers, and athletes. (Tinder is a majority of women ignoring all but a sliver of the men.) That filter never shuts off, even after a woman gets married. Then we blame men for women deciding to cancel the marriage. By definition, there aren't that many high-status, high-earning, exceptional, super-athletic men.
How can we convince average women than average men are actually above average? How can we get them to be proud of their regular old workaday men? If she's not proud of him, she'll discard him like a garment that's out of style. Maybe hire groups of women to feign jealousy and admiration of a woman's man in front of her so she'll feel more satisfied with her choice? Dunno.
What needs to happen is a reality check for women. Female 3's get attention on Tinder from male 9's looking for an easy lay-up to occupy the afternoon. Female 3 then believes that she "deserves" a 9, and is worthy of one and decides not to "date down". Until she understands she's a 3 and will not get (on average) a guy much above that to commit to her she'll continue to make bad choices. Research also shows the more men in her past the more she builds a composite "superman" profile to evaluate her current man against. Any new man has to be better in every respect than the best features of all her past men. "Chad had better abs, Bill made more money, Tom was better hung, Mike was a better dancer" and so on. The more men she's been with the less likely she'll be satisfied with any man.
@@garysmith6959 can you please point to said research. genuinely interested in reading that material. cheers
On the issue of not helping a woman screaming for help...
I read a UA-cam comment of a guy whose friend tried to help a girl being manhandled by her toxic boyfriend and the girl said the boyfriend was hurting her. Guy steps in, gets beaten up badly and the girl goes off with her boyfriend. Someone who knew the two later explained that the girl attacked her boyfriend and he hit her back afterwards. She lied so as to get another guy to beat up her boyfriend simply because she could not do it herself and did not even feel remorse that an innocent guy was beaten up badly because of her lie.
Being a child from divorced parents what I saw was mom telling lies that everyone believed it took dad years and lots of money just to see me with a stranger in the room when all he did was love us will never forget the hell he went through, his four grandchildren adore him as he does them grandma nowhere to be found never seen them but lives one hour away ,not all men are evil but women portray men as such and we are sick of it
Women asking why men aren't marrying is like Captain Jack Sparrow asking why all the rum is gone.
I blame the family court judges. Those cowards have destroyed men and children for decades.
The good manly men where taken by the good feminine women.
Can you repeat that for the people
You got that backwards, my friend.
edit - There are Good Men left over who want nothing to do with the left over Women.
@@graywalkerjoin3rdparty74 Define a left over women
@@JJ-vp3bd Those that can't find good Men.
@@graywalkerjoin3rdparty74 What qualities would they have that make them have issues?