I think about this quote from the creator of Hibari-Kun everytime i see the anime and manga being brought up: "It's really my frustrations of not being born as a girl that drives my drawings. But women are just so attractive, I'll never be able to catch up." Here's also an extract from an article about the mangaka: "Eguchi focused on making Hibari-kun attractive, the kind of girl he would have liked to be born as, not necessarily the type he'd like to date."
@@MissPoplarLeafreminds me of the authors of cybersix (please appreciate me finding the name I am very stupid it took me to long). Well, it was just a theory by the person analyzing the cartoon and comics, But If I remeber correctly, one of the author’s implied that “Anyone would want to be a woman duh!” and they had several plotlines about crossdressing against their will or ‘accidentally turning into a woman” but being completely ok with it, even elated. You know how sometimes you make uo fantasies of things you want to happen to you but without any of the blame and it being explained as “well, the universe wanted it that way :D”. But that’s just a theory, a bullshit psychological theory :D
theres so many japanese amab manga writers who dont really want to transition purely because they werent brought up like a girl/woman which is so sad imo because i'd like to think they'd be very happy if they did transition but their beliefs on gender is preventing that.
I really love that they put her in more “boyish” clothes too like pants and the big black jumper and she still looks super cute and femme! It’s not just “she’s a boy who turns into a girl once she puts a skirt on”, she’s a girl no matter what she’s wearing
The thing that keeps standing out to me about is that despite the time and culture and the problematic elements it creates. She's..just thriving, you know? It's easy to overlook the problem points of the story because of the fact she actively defies it with that impish smirk on her face.
i really love how confident and comfortable she is being herself. SHE knows who she is and if other people don't get it that's their problem-- and that's pretty badass of her
Its just impossible not to love hibari. The cast is great too. But hibari is this strong charming gravitational force that you cant resist. I love her. Eguchi sensei is tbe goat.
Man, if Urusei Yatsura could become the toast of the town with a 2020s remake that recursively plays on the Aesthetic associations it's picked up over the years, Hibari-Kun is PERFECTLY positioned to do the exact same thing
Something tells me that if they rebooted it they would either make her a female assigned from birth or make her a full on comedic trap character. They would 100000000% destroy her identity and disrespect her beyond redemption
@@reader_of_instructionstbh, as time passes on, hibari might be portrayed the same way she did in her original manga with how much more japan are discussinv trans rights
I really like the trans man introduced in the final chapter. I wish he got more appearances😢😢 Like, if the manga continued, he isn't around most of the time because he's too busy doing manly things and says that "being in a new shounen manga" makes him feel sick, so he's going to avoid it as much as possible. He still shows up sometimes to cause trouble. He could also cause internal conflict for Kousaku by inadvertently (or maybe sometimes purposefully?) poking at his tender spots about not being "masculine enough" (something he's struggled with since falling for Hibari).
i think in the final chapter she isnt trans, like hibari, her reaosnign for dressing like a man is because she wants to be the strong son her father wanted. its in a similar but different vain
you cant "disagree" its a fact, the chracter literally states that she wants to be the strong son her father always wanted, not real gender dysphoria@@vio2626
@@captainstabbin5374 *just no.* it's wild seeing the incomprehensible lengths people go taking one of the only animes or animated shows or even video media in general for the time, that doesn't use gnc ppl as a freakshow to point at/get frightened by or the butt of a joke, and arguing they're not actually trans bc the language of the time didn't say it explicitly as such, and worse to assume it's some fuckin crossdresser or femboy or trap or futa or new-half type shit is revolting i'm not saying you are going out of your way or doing it deliberately and i'm not making that argument for the trans guy bc frankly i haven't finished the show, it's pretty short i binge like 4 episodes every year and even rewatch those a few times bc i know once it's over it is, but i've seen ppl make the argument for hibari and it's just blatantly wrong, (i'd go as far to argue hisashi eguchi is trans, but i won't actually claim it or treat it like a debate bc that's a real person) but reading interviews and comparing to my own experiences & feelings and comparing my experiences & feelings with hibari there's a resoundingly clear yes for the character and you said ",like hibari," which is what start this emotionally charged reply i'm going to compare this to gwen from atsv bc i feel like there's something to be said, it's undeniable there is supposed to be trans-coding behind the character, the poster above her door, the water colors in more than one of her scenes, the dynamic of her and her dads relationship and it's growth, the allegory of her relationship to the spider-identify could be argued as inherently trans as she views it as something that keeps her ostracized from society, and hidden to protect the people she loves and herself, and how she sees the spider-society initially, full of people like her, i think it's safe to say they'll never officially say she trans nor do i really want them to, but to some ppl she is and it's a huge thing for them, and it's something they feel they have to defend for themselves bc ppl are against that, there's a huge group of spider-man purists of all kinds, and some of them even have justified reasons for feeling that way, that is something i think it's sometimes valid to interject about in a respectful way if someone is trying to tell other ppl how to view her, it's the difference between "she'll always be trans in my eyes" v.s. "no she is trans you have to view her and call her as such etc." (this in itself is a small group of younger trans ppl with stronger opinions still figuring what hills are worth dying on it was supposed to be a simple example but i don't want to be misunderstood) hibari however has a lot more than subtext, hibari has significantly less of an audience the "purists" group even less small, i get some cis guys watched it then and now, and relate to hibari but are just femme and don't want to be told relating makes them trans but it doesn't, like with bridget (but obviously the differences in being raised as a girl against will bc they weren't supposed to have boys which is why ppl think it's a disservice for bridget to now be trans which again is a different argument, better footing, if anything it should just go to show that hibari ain't the one, there's like nothing to stand on) but hibari is straight up trans, she's written trans, she presents trans the family dynamic is trans it is like the perfect middle point between "great luck they're excepting and immediately adapting" and "uh oh guess i'm ostracized and ridiculed and invalidated possibly kicked out and/or abused" it's as "real" as it'll probably ever be presented in media bc i haven't seen anything as such since as someone with divorced parents and w/ siblings, i got both sides it baffles me what brought my parents together given how close-minded my mom and her side are compared to my dads, so yeah i'm a little too deep into it this, this is such a wall of text and the most chronically online thing i've done but i'm just going to copy this so the next time i might see someone say she's not trans and they're actually an asshole who deserves it i can use it throw some insults and embrace the chronic online-ness
all of this was typed out as nonsense, the anime is almost entirely filler, and does not follow the manga in any way shape or form, the language used isnt the issue, this manga is one of my favorite manga of all time, and the anime is just ok but the character we are discussing isnt even in the anime so idk what you are on about, . the character of hibari, is trans. i dont know what compelled you to write such a huge long thing like this but its very clear that hibari is amab who identifies as a woman. but that has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation or the character in question, eguchi stopped the manga and quit it so we only got one single chapter with the new character, and it is a woman who wraps up her breasts with wrapping and dresses like a boy to look tough and in the story is said to be doing so to be the son her father never had. of course eguchi was writing this character in as a second love interest comedic one at least, for the main two characters, but it never got far, idk how you took " like hibari" as bad, its stating hibari IS trans, but this new character is not, at least not in the same way. @@tropiccheekss
She needs to return. In an age where millions are in her shoes in the real world, I can see Hibari returning to inspire others and keep being her bold, brash, and of course, unstoppable self. Really love her!!
Agreed but its important to note that millions were in her shoes then too- they just didnt know how to word it or couldnt because of the dangers that could follow
I don’t consume anime or manga or anything but I stumbled across these videos in my recommendations and I just wanted to say that even as someone for whom a lot of the references to other works go completely over my head I’ve been eagerly working my way through your catalog! Really great work!
This is what I find extremely interesting. In nearly every way that we can measure, Hibari is trans. Like fully. But in common parlance IN JAPAN, and even per the authors own words, Hibari is described as a “boy who dresses as a girl” or a “girl in spirit”. They still use female Japanese pronouns for her, but the way this is discussed, you’d think most readers have no concept of trans-ness. I find it so interesting. You can present an overtly trans person and have that be entirely accepted by the audience, but the moment we try to describe that as transgender, suddenly it’s an issue. Transphobia in Japan is very different than here in the states. I can’t see how a culture where crossfressinf and gender non conforming behavior (though let’s admit, prominently mtf transitions) is so normalized could be so transphobic.
To add on to the “male-to-female” comment. There are a lot of boyish or masc female characters in Japanese media but they rarely every cross the line in a gender non binary or trans adjacent behavior. They tend to maintain some “girlish” or “feminine” quality to explicitly mark them as women. I figure this has a lot to do with traditional Japanese views on patriarchy.
@@Tortle-Man that lgbt awareness stuff in the west is a reaction to the extreme homophobia and transphobia perpetuated by abrahamic cults transphobia in japan more conservatism/conformity and ethnocentrism, vs transphobia in a place like the US which is political/ideological and a subset of their increasing science denialism (manufactured)
It's the same reason why gay marriage still isn't a thing despite most people not really being "homophobic". After the w wars I think our school system became "write down what is written on the chalkboard no questions asked". No critical thinking, no nothing. Just remember the dates and names a day before the test and then forget it all the next day. Really old people in Japan still sometimes have "opinions" but most... Well just don't think about it. It's often not hatred. Rather it's about not really caring.
I am a Japanese manga artist. I found your question intriguing, so I’m responding. This comment is translated into English. Very long, sorry. For Japanese people, defining someone’s (or a character's) internal gender identity with a single term can sometimes feel disrespectful. It might be because we value the freedom of one's abstract inner self. (If someone explicitly states their identity, we respect that.) When it comes to character design, entertainment aspects are significant. Mystery is a classic charm in characters, and those who don't clarify their sexual orientation possess an allure of "sexual ambiguity." Conversely, characters explicitly stated as transgender lose this sexual mystery and must be enriched with other appeals. The term "otokonoko" (男の娘) primarily describes appearance or behavior and doesn’t necessarily reflect their inner self or sexual orientation. Therefore, characters introduced as "otokonoko" and those introduced as "transgender" have different levels of appeal from the outset. This is a general view of gender in Japan or in Japanese anime and manga, I think. I never realized that such thinking could be seen as transphobic. I appreciate your comment for bringing this to my attention. Additional Note: Regarding the "male-to-female" comment as a manga artist: Many Japanese creators focus on entertaining their target readers. The situation where a "female-like male" has "very feminine traits" might be to give the character an appealing contrast. A "strong contrast" is a classic charm in character design.
@@moc8729 I think this is a very well spoken and clear response. while I'm not from japan, I have a large passion for japanese media, and it's always been difficult for me to figure out my own feelings about being transgender in contrast to portrayals of trans people in japan, because I feel like the entirety of language and culture is just so different. Your comment has helped me understand the thought process behind why characters are made that way, with the ambiguity on whether a character is "truly" a boy or girl at heart.
I love how it’s made in the 80’s which they didn’t think about trans right or diversity. They just be like “We gonna make a cute trans girl rom-com” lol just a pure feeling of “trans girls are cute”
@@adriani9432 That's not quite right tho, transphobia still is and was quite a big issue in japan, it's just not talked about often, and many trans japanese people stay in the closet since it's so hard to come out.
As someone who just recently figured out she’s trans, this video was very nice and refreshing to see. Im definitely going to check the manga and anime out!
I had never heard of "Stop! Hibari-kun!" before, and after the first minutes of this video, I decided to bingewatch the anime before continuing it. So, first, thanks a lot for making me discover it, I definitely share your opinion on its qualities (but also limits), but secondly, I want to say, I really like the part where you went more in details about the screenwriters This, mostly because episode 17 literally made me cry and I can say for sure its my favorite one. So, I'm really happy to be able to link a name to this specific episode, (and yeah I would have loved more episodes written by Tomomi Tsutsui). Really great video
Why tho, to be agent of chaos? Chaos is chaotic and could hurt people. I'd prefer to be a trans agent of love. ...I'd rather to be neithe one's agent. I want to be myself, and gender does not define me.
2:02 my take on that is that he intended Hibari to the an Male Crossdresser, but due to ignorance about the subject (good faith ignorance i guess, it's not like you could just search information in 80s) Hibari is closer to being a trans representation tuan a Crossdresser/Otokonoko rep, as the latters doesn't adopt a full feminine indentity, nor embrace feminity for 24h straight, unlike Hibari. It's like wanting to depict a fruit you doesn't know so you end mixing the depiction with an banana, so you ending depcting a banana instead of the fruit you intended to show 8:58 oh!! So that's why Kosaku ranges from "I-i d-doesn't l-like you 😳" to "Get out from my sight ur *beep* " in like, one episode of differende i always wondered why this inconsistence existed.
I think everyone agrees on this but because they ended up writing a trans character and how she positively affected a lot of ppl, self acceptance and aspiring to be Hibari is what their takeaway is, and when you interact with fiction the important thing is what you take away from it and how it will impact your real life, whether that be by having a comforting thought of a role model in your mind, watching her as a form of escapism and imaging being in her fictional world, or even ending in understanding that we should treat people in real life with kindness and respect when they show us their inner identity and how like for Hibari, they'll likely mean who they are and you can see that nothing will change who they are on the inside. So that's how it is, like you can have that banana fruit and keep telling people it's a peach cause you meant to make a peach but you're holding a banana because you made a banana, you can move on and make a real peach or you can keep trying to alter a banana into a peach but one of those options make more sense then the other.
@@hypnopompicfool985 Yeah my comment was never intended to be "Hibari isn't trans because it wasn't intended to be". Because even if it wasn't the intention, it's is obviously depicting a transwoman.
I actually think she might have very well been intended to be trans from the beginning. Actually, at the end chapter of the manga, they also introduce a trans man who has started testosterone hrt, which means at the very least, the mangaka knew surprisingly much about trans people, and intended to include them in the manga. I also think the reason hormone replacement therapy was only mentioned at the end of the series was because had it been done earlier, it would've probably gotten canceled. Hibari herself in the manga doesn't just crossdress. She refers to herself as a girl/daughter literally all the time, and passes as a girl in school. Also there's a chapter where they meet guys wearing makeup and hibari says they're different from her. It doesn't have to be spelled out with the word trans to be meant as such. Also I think it makes it even more realistic. I mean I'm trans, and outside of the internet, I don't usually really use the word in conversations.
@@henkkahenrik4183 the trans guy thing was made in the 2010s version, it was an original inclusion when the author aready change his mind about how he saw Hibari. In the 80s, the author would refer hibari as things such like "a man who looks like a girl" and refer her as a "male crossdresser". Everything you said really leads to Hibari being trans and indentifying as a woman, however i believe that this was just the author being totally layman to this subject, like he probally wanted to depict a crossdresser but in the 80s people didn't knew that much, he ended depicting a transwoman. And realizing this with time, he decided to embrace that, making Hibari ultimely transgender.
Correct me if my wrong but isn’t ryuunosuke a girl? I’m pretty sure they were forced to act and dress like a boy cause their dads a POS for being pissed/ in denial he had a daughter and it gotten to a point that she’d regularly roundhouse kick him into the stratosphere screaming she was a girl if he said otherwise. And wanted to wear dresses too OH AND ATARU REGULARLY SIMPED OVER THEM TOO I TOTALLY FORGOT THAT lol (Overall Ik takahashi has other characters she’s written but I could’ve swore ryuunosukes a straight up girl with a really shitty dad)
@@angelar9119I mean she was kinda amab by her dad who refused to let her “come out” to those around her about her true gender. At several points many people straight up don’t believe her to be a girl, they think she’s lying or pretending. The school also refused to let her wear the school uniform and instead listens to her father about what gender presentation would be best for her. I know that she’s not by strict definition trans, but she seams like a thinly veiled metaphor for the trans experience as a whole
@@mikebipping6166 is english not ur first lang. She is saying if ur demanding someone to stop being themselves and wear the cloths and identify as they want that ur transphobic. Pretty simple,
I'm glad that Hibari exists in a way that can inspire or uplift trans people. Crossdressing in Japan is so often depicted in such a disrespectful or predatory way, like okama who are just out there trying to assault men, etc. There's also the common trope of delicate, feminine boys (femboys, traps) being fetishized or having all agency taken from them because they are feminine, so Hibari is refreshing because she does whatever she wants without needing or asking for permission. She's a role model for any young girl to look up to.
I think if they really wanted to push the "haha it's a guy in women's clothes" gag they wouldn't have given Hibari a cis fem voice actor, or at least not for all her lines. Thank you for introducing me to this anime/manga! I doubt I would've heard of it otherwise!!! ^_^
i started watching your videos on gundam and mecha anime because i'm a huge fan of them and i found your commentary to be very thoughtful and really understanding of the thematic intent behind them. i'm now also pleased to see a video tackling themes of gender identity and sexuality in a similarly thoughtful manner! i'm a trans girl, so it makes me happy to see you break down these topics in hibari-kun in a sensitive manner while also acknowledging the context of the culture during its release as well as of the author's strengths and failings alike. please keep up the good work!
I super enjoyed this one Pyramid Inu, partly because I don't see too many people talk about Hibari kun, other than in passing or momentarily about trans characterization. I think you hit the nail on the head on what is so charming about this work; it's about Hibari herself (either against the world around her or completely charming it). I found the show years ago through it's super delightful opening sequence and song. I really just loved the designs, and wanted to know more about Hibari. I read what I could of the manga later, and yeah, I would agree that it is stronger (or at least more consistent). The anime is so interesting as a take on this type of story through the collaboration of many people. I've heard a number of animators say in interviews that, working in the 80's and early 90's, they had way more room to storyboard, and put more of themselves into an adaptation. I was thinking about this recently, and how a lot of current anime is strict with their episode count and their character designs. I think it's why I constantly go back to older anime, the creative freedom comes through. Hands down my favorite part of this were the fashion ratings of both you and Reiclone. I could watch an ENTIRE video of just that, and I mean this. It was just so sweet to hear you guys go into these and explain your response to the designs. I mean this lovingly, and not as a knock against the rest of the amazing work poured into this video T - T ; I promise! Thank you for the video!
Ahhh thank you for such an involved response! I always really appreciate hearing your thoughts. Totally agree re: the ways in which animators could put their specific spin on key animation in older shows, and the general charm of this series in particular. Funnily enough, the actual fashion rating recording ended up being two hours with a lot more fits covered haha. I've considered editing more of it and putting it on my side channel, so I'll let you know if I do.
I highly recommend Mark McLelland's Queer Japan from the Pacific War to the Internet Age. It's not perfect but it delves a lot into the linguistics of the Japanese gay scene and how they've changed over time (for example it spends some time on gei boi, the term that is just translated as "gay" in most subs for funeral parade of roses even tho it has a slightly different valence). It also grounds a lot of its analysis in broader cultural and legal conditions, such as how Shinjuku 2-chome became such a thriving gay bar/brothel area because traditional heterosexual prostitution was made illegal after protests and demands by the post-war feminist movement
I love that idea "maybe they didn't intent to write a trans character but ended up writing a trans character" because I see that all the time. Like if no one even knew what trans identity was artists would produce it from scratch from their life experience and fantasies. Also I'm reading a lesbian webnovel called Katalepsis and I would bet money one of the main characters is a copy of Hibari.
i’m sorry if this is weird but i love your video essays and i saw you have a loveless icon on twitter… i just wanna say if you ever did a video essay on loveless i would watch it over and over probably 10k times. that manga did crazy things to so many ppls psyche. you rock
thanks for the comment! I don't think I'd do a video on loveless. I read the manga when I was like 13 and it was very important to me in figuring out gender stuff (and the art is still some of my favourite) but I also think it's objectively like, pretty heinous haha. I know what you mean though, I think a deep dive video on it could be really good. maybe something similar to what hazel did with elfen lied....
@@pyramidinu9449 understandable! i love hazel's elfen lied video. i think loveless was probably a lot of people's elfen lied and vice versa lmao. loveless is def pretty heinous and grim-- but the way the characters were written have such dimension to them despite the kind of manga that it was... your reply made me happy! keep up the good work!!!
This is a fantastic essay. I rarely comment on a youtube video, but this was just above and beyond. One of my favorite shows, but wow I was impressed here! Subscribed and I'm excited to see what else you come up with. I loved the rating of her outfits! Her fashion is legendary.
I’m working on a webtoon with a somewhat similar premise lol, well with a superhero twist lol, but watching this video definitely helped me with how I wanted to approach my main character lol. I myself looked up to her during my transition which inspired this story lol XD watching this video made me appreciate her even more
How did youtube take 5 months to suggest this video? Hibari is goals and an icon. We need more of her. Or a new series that carries that spirit forward and gives a satisfyingly good ending.
"Eguchi... youre gonna make me write fanfic" That perfectly sums up my feelings about this series. I love Hibari so much and I would love a sequel. So much to the point im planning on storyboarding a fanfiction sequel manga incorporating some parts of the anime into the manga tineline. Then whencim satisfied with the storyboard I'll commission or partner with an artist to fully realize the thing :3
Watched a couple episodes with my friend and there is a shockingly high amount of times where the punchline is loincloth wearing jungle man with a bone in his nose appears out of nowhere for no reason.
@@QWERTY-gp8fd you are very uncritical of media aren't you? Dude, I owned a disc of the infamous 13 Looney Tunes episodes which I used to watch regularly. Just because you (and I) can watch something with problematic elements without getting pissed doesn't mean it isn't problematic in the first place
bro i like more heinous sh,it. if anime aint got depraved stuff depicted in good light i aint liking it. parallel paradise is my favorite. this is nothing.@@CassiusStelar
wake up babe, it's another video about hibari kun. It's a shame that they didn't give Eguchi more time to publish chapters, this could have been something at the level of Ranma 1/2 without problems. I also remember that years ago all the anime chapters were uploaded on UA-cam with subs in Spanish haha
I'm a beginner Trans girl and Hibari is a huge influence and goal not only for her immaculate sense of fashion and style, but also for her unwavering self confidence. Absolute Queen.
I like how you explain the different art styles and different story lines written by different directors! You don’t get that kind of diversity feel in the current anime.
I love hearing about Stop!! Hibari-kun! so I was intrigued to see this come across my recommended videos. I've only read the manga so I had no idea what the show was like and this was a fun overview. Loved the fashion rating segment; as stated elsewhere I am so down for a full video of that. (And also I gotta look into that Dune-esque series; it sounds amazing) Looking forward to checking out more of your stuff; love your style!
I freaking love 80-90's animes' wacky fashion! It's just so fresh and creative and it inspires me to experiment with my clothes too. The bright blue fedora has to go though---
A really great video. It was nice to see a more in depth video about Hibari-kun, the stuff about Galdeen was super interesting as well. It feels kind of mean to "nitpick" like this, but Akihiro Miwa rather than voicing Howl: voices The Witch of the Waste. I'm sorry if I've misunderstood though.
Yes! Yes!!! God, this video is SO. GOOD. Long-form TV anime is such great fodder for this type of elemental, exploratory criticism. Would love to see you make more stuff like this if you'd be so inclined.
This is a great video! I'm a massive fan of Hibari. I own the original four tonkōbon from Shueisha, some figurines, a vinyl of the soundtrack, even an old section of a magazine with external writing about the show. It's actually the thing that inspired me enough to finally start my transition, so I hold a lot of love in my heart for both the anime and manga, in different ways. The first thing I wanted to publish on my AO3 account was a complete rewrite of the series, but I quickly realised that I wasn't ready to take on such a massive project with my skill level. Soon, I think I'll give it another shot. I've been practicing on other stuff, so I'm a bit more confident now!
Haha in my opinion the fedora outfit is actually wonderfully color coordinated (especially with her hair and eyes) and trendy for the time!! The early 2000s was heavily inspired by the 80s as well!!
As usual, a very thoughtful and intensely pleasant video. The aside about Guldeen now has *me* pining for an untranslated mecha novel series, even as someone who's normally not deep into mecha stuff, not to mention the potential Hibari sequel…
having read an interview with the author, I don't think he fully grasps transness...and also doesn't realize that he himself might be having trans dysphoria...since he says the reason he draws beautiful girls is that he wishes he looked like them
@@stampoulisrafael5262 "yeah there is a chance" that's such a cope dog "it is really the frustration of not being born a girl that fuels my drawings" - Hisashi Eguchi , writer aritist and creator of the character hibari ozora and stop!! hbari-kun!
I still need to see the series as a whole but when I came across the intro in an 80s compilation and found out it was a unique show generally on top of uniquely cute I so wanted to see more. Your video helped convince me I wouldn't regret it. 😄
She is not ahead of her time. She is right in her times! The fedora in the 80s was MAJOR!!! And a lot of people tends to forget it but fashion wise, the 2000s were really really inspired by the 80s and 70s. Hence why the fedora was a staple. It's the 20 years rules of fashion! But great video. I love love the dissection on the impact of every writer and artists. It is true that key animator and key storyboard artists were a bigger deal before the 90s, but we'll... That's normal. Because it's what making everything by hand does. It takes more time so you put more of you and unlike digital. It's harder for you to go and pass down a scene from hand to hand like it is nowadays where some animators just animate a single character in the same scene and can have this level of flexibility.
Something i noticed with the fashion of the show is people dress like each other. Which is try to life that people dress like people they spend a lot of time with. I love it!!!!! 😻
I agree that Hibari is Trans. I did not know the show shared a writer with Sailor Moon, I've spend a lot of time thinking about the who wrote which episodes of Sailor Moon, at least for the first 3 seasons which are the only three Yanagawa wrote for. Yanagawa wrote the main plot episodes of the Doom Tree Arc. He also wrote both episodes that features Usagi running to school with Toast in her mouth, 37 and the first episode of 2 aka the start of the Doom Tree Saga, they have different directors so it must be Yanagawa's thing. .His first episode was the 2nd which isn't good, none of the writers but Sumisawa had a great first impression, Early Sailor Moon had to find it's footing rather awkwardly. A better first impression for him would be episode 5 the Chanella episode. Next is episode 7 which is as far I'm currently aware the first ever reference to The Internet in any work of Popular Fictional Entertainment, amazing that it aired on Aprils 25th 1992. Then comes 11 which is a rare case of him writing something Ikuhara directed. During the Nephrite saga he's no longer limited to one offs, he wrote the introduction episode for Nephrite which sets up the new formula and plants the seeds for the later Naru storyline. Dangerous Dollies is a sort of sequel to the Chanella episode, then he wrote the penultimate episode of the Neprhite storyline. He also wrote the episode that introduced Sailor Jupiter, that was also the 4th episode of the show to be an adaptation of a specific Manga Chapter and it is by far a greater departure from the basic sequence of events then we saw previously, the whole premise is basically rewritten. He also wrote the next episode that I'd say even kind of has Makoto as a focal point Too Many Girlfriends, so he definitely helped define that character in the Anime which is interesting since I wrote a Blog Post recently on how she was changed in the Anime and didn't discus any of the writers involved, feels like an oversight. Near the end of season 1 he wrote Fractious Friends and the Penultimate episode which are both good. Then came his 4 episodes of the Doom Tree Saga, 1, 5 and 12-13 of R. The rest of R no one btu Sumisawa wrote any good episodes, I don't blame the writers though, the basics of how the Black Moon Saga was adapted were broken entirely. In S he wrote episode 105 another Makoto focused one, 112 the episode that truly the starts what the plot was in the Manga, and 117 another very memorable Ikuhara episode, and then 121 the Tellu episode was his last.
The way people hear the word transgender and take it as a chance to be transphobic in the comments sucks but anyways I love this video and I'll def check out this series!!
This was such a good video. I love your voice and your script. I'm for sure subscribing. And I've never heard of this series but it looks so good I can't wait to read it
From an outsiderish prospective I kind of like the undefined approach japan takes to gender stuff (modulo the conservatorism). I doubt matters of gender identity are as solid and well defined as we are making them out to be in the west. I hope our culture moves in a direction of general acceptance for the way people present themselves, aside from the rigid parameters of this or that label.
A lot of that has to do with the Japanese language not being heavily gendered. In many cases, it can actually be difficult to convey gender, especially in a "solid" way. Very little of Japanese language is "solid" concepts. Interpretation is very important within the language.
Absolutely love this series! I practically devoured it when I learnt of its existence and I definitely share some of the same thoughts about it too. Hibari definitely reads as more of a trans girl than a cross dresser to me and the fact that she’s always depicted in such a triumphant kind of way and, like you said, is never the butt of the joke even despite of having an unaccepting family just drives that point home for me.
Hey! Just wanted to say thanks a bunch for the video! Ive never seen your work before, but was very pleasantly surprised at the quality, match that with showing me something ive never seen or heard of and you got me hooked. Keep up the good work mate!
Lately i see so mamy good anime recomandations. I'm pretty happy to see for once a confident character that doesn't think is thr ultimate moral compass. I like chaotic characters, i think i will watch it.
great video! I've read the whole Hibari manga, haven't watched more than 2 episodes of the anime. I *do* know about Fumiko though, thanks to a friend who's written a few hundred thousand words of Ranma 1/2/Hibari Kun fanfic :P I tell ya, not since "Am I Pretty?" has there been an anime original character/story that's served as so much fuel for trans fic
I am so glad I stumbled onto this The agent of chaos, assertive, take-me-as-I-am early mamga/anime as I am somebody who wants to see women on their own terms I miss this less self conscious period
Hisashi intented for hibari to be trans no matter what. Sure hibari can be a bit pushy in expressing her love but like it adds to her character waymore
I'm pretty sure in a recent interview, the creator stated that the updated language around transgenderism would make Hibari trans. So yes, they're a trans woman.
@@pyramidinu9449 ua-cam.com/video/2a6Wqq4zifw/v-deo.html&t Sorry, I was incorrect. The creator is an egg, or was at the time. He made hibari with the intent to express his gender dysphoria and desire to be a woman, but the language at the time couldn't express it properly.
I never really appreciated the stylistic discrepencies from episode-to-episode in the anime, thanks for pointing it out because it's really cool! Yeah, as very great as the anime is, some of the anime-original content certainly doesn't hit the mark, iirc Hisachi Eguchi mentioned not being a big fan of the anime. Though, I don't have a source on that, just sort of something off the top of my head. I mainly think of it when I see the few times in anime subtitles where Hibari refers to herself in a masculine way which never happens in the manga. The fact that the characters actually wear different clothes is such a good touch. ooo hibari inspired series (plural), nice
Trans stories are always something in anime and manga. Not my cup of tea for many reasons, but the production tends to be nice. Gender identity, presentation and manhood get messy for me. So I avoid shows like Hibari, but I always did wonder how the rest of the show went along after the first few chapters and episodes that I caught. Nice to be able to experience that in a video essay.
Mmm. Being trans (male) myself, I generally feel uncomfortable with stories that primarily focus on (or have a large focus on) trans characters, because of the inevitable negative takes shown by people either in the media itself, the people creating the media (which affect how said trans character(s) is (are) portrayed), or by the viewers. Videos like these though are nice because I can see the plot and the way Hibari’s character is generally treated without cruelty in the show itself and by the video maker, the former of which is refreshing to see especially for an older show
As someone who is more so closeted trans female but really don’t fit in many communities, I loved the anime, it was a touching but funny anime. When come down to it it kinda just one if few of few anime of the era to tackle the issue.
I think about this quote from the creator of Hibari-Kun everytime i see the anime and manga being brought up: "It's really my frustrations of not being born as a girl that drives my drawings. But women are just so attractive, I'll never be able to catch up." Here's also an extract from an article about the mangaka: "Eguchi focused on making Hibari-kun attractive, the kind of girl he would have liked to be born as, not necessarily the type he'd like to date."
Damn, he was a trans woman who felt she couldn't transition :( at least that gave us Hibari
ayo? 🤨🏳️⚧️?
@@MissPoplarLeafreminds me of the authors of cybersix (please appreciate me finding the name I am very stupid it took me to long). Well, it was just a theory by the person analyzing the cartoon and comics, But If I remeber correctly, one of the author’s implied that “Anyone would want to be a woman duh!” and they had several plotlines about crossdressing against their will or ‘accidentally turning into a woman” but being completely ok with it, even elated.
You know how sometimes you make uo fantasies of things you want to happen to you but without any of the blame and it being explained as “well, the universe wanted it that way :D”.
But that’s just a theory, a bullshit psychological theory :D
theres so many japanese amab manga writers who dont really want to transition purely because they werent brought up like a girl/woman which is so sad imo because i'd like to think they'd be very happy if they did transition but their beliefs on gender is preventing that.
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I really love that they put her in more “boyish” clothes too like pants and the big black jumper and she still looks super cute and femme! It’s not just “she’s a boy who turns into a girl once she puts a skirt on”, she’s a girl no matter what she’s wearing
It’s also probably because it’s the 80s and everyone wore sweat shirts and shorts
wonderful
The main character is not trans he is Otokonoko
@@darklyo3784 shes a woman. even the creator uses she/her for her
@@darklyo3784same thing
Hibari is the most original “:3” poster making her a true trans icon
The main character is not trans he is Otokonoko
The thing that keeps standing out to me about is that despite the time and culture and the problematic elements it creates. She's..just thriving, you know? It's easy to overlook the problem points of the story because of the fact she actively defies it with that impish smirk on her face.
yes literally
i really love how confident and comfortable she is being herself. SHE knows who she is and if other people don't get it that's their problem-- and that's pretty badass of her
Its just impossible not to love hibari. The cast is great too. But hibari is this strong charming gravitational force that you cant resist. I love her. Eguchi sensei is tbe goat.
@@AdChinhVtuber Nuh-uh
I love her hair style and those deep blue almost purple eyes she's just so cute
@@AdChinhVtubershe is a girl
*his*
Of course you can not love him... he's trans
Man, if Urusei Yatsura could become the toast of the town with a 2020s remake that recursively plays on the Aesthetic associations it's picked up over the years, Hibari-Kun is PERFECTLY positioned to do the exact same thing
I NEED a continuation
It was a very sympathetic portrayal, it really should get a reboot.
Something tells me that if they rebooted it they would either make her a female assigned from birth or make her a full on comedic trap character. They would 100000000% destroy her identity and disrespect her beyond redemption
@@reader_of_instructions if it's hisashi eguchi it wouldn't be and if it wasn't him the show would be meaningless anyway
@@reader_of_instructionstbh, as time passes on, hibari might be portrayed the same way she did in her original manga with how much more japan are discussinv trans rights
I agree, but did people forget the Yakuza? they would throw a fit.
I really like the trans man introduced in the final chapter. I wish he got more appearances😢😢 Like, if the manga continued, he isn't around most of the time because he's too busy doing manly things and says that "being in a new shounen manga" makes him feel sick, so he's going to avoid it as much as possible. He still shows up sometimes to cause trouble. He could also cause internal conflict for Kousaku by inadvertently (or maybe sometimes purposefully?) poking at his tender spots about not being "masculine enough" (something he's struggled with since falling for Hibari).
i think in the final chapter she isnt trans, like hibari, her reaosnign for dressing like a man is because she wants to be the strong son her father wanted. its in a similar but different vain
@@captainstabbin5374 Uhhh. I disagree.
you cant "disagree" its a fact, the chracter literally states that she wants to be the strong son her father always wanted, not real gender dysphoria@@vio2626
@@captainstabbin5374 *just no.* it's wild seeing the incomprehensible lengths people go taking one of the only animes or animated shows or even video media in general for the time, that doesn't use gnc ppl as a freakshow to point at/get frightened by or the butt of a joke, and arguing they're not actually trans bc the language of the time didn't say it explicitly as such, and worse to assume it's some fuckin crossdresser or femboy or trap or futa or new-half type shit is revolting
i'm not saying you are going out of your way or doing it deliberately and i'm not making that argument for the trans guy bc frankly i haven't finished the show, it's pretty short i binge like 4 episodes every year and even rewatch those a few times bc i know once it's over it is, but i've seen ppl make the argument for hibari and it's just blatantly wrong, (i'd go as far to argue hisashi eguchi is trans, but i won't actually claim it or treat it like a debate bc that's a real person) but reading interviews and comparing to my own experiences & feelings and comparing my experiences & feelings with hibari there's a resoundingly clear yes for the character and you said ",like hibari," which is what start this emotionally charged reply
i'm going to compare this to gwen from atsv bc i feel like there's something to be said, it's undeniable there is supposed to be trans-coding behind the character, the poster above her door, the water colors in more than one of her scenes, the dynamic of her and her dads relationship and it's growth, the allegory of her relationship to the spider-identify could be argued as inherently trans as she views it as something that keeps her ostracized from society, and hidden to protect the people she loves and herself, and how she sees the spider-society initially, full of people like her, i think it's safe to say they'll never officially say she trans nor do i really want them to, but to some ppl she is and it's a huge thing for them, and it's something they feel they have to defend for themselves bc ppl are against that, there's a huge group of spider-man purists of all kinds, and some of them even have justified reasons for feeling that way, that is something i think it's sometimes valid to interject about in a respectful way if someone is trying to tell other ppl how to view her, it's the difference between "she'll always be trans in my eyes" v.s. "no she is trans you have to view her and call her as such etc." (this in itself is a small group of younger trans ppl with stronger opinions still figuring what hills are worth dying on it was supposed to be a simple example but i don't want to be misunderstood) hibari however has a lot more than subtext, hibari has significantly less of an audience the "purists" group even less small, i get some cis guys watched it then and now, and relate to hibari but are just femme and don't want to be told relating makes them trans but it doesn't, like with bridget (but obviously the differences in being raised as a girl against will bc they weren't supposed to have boys which is why ppl think it's a disservice for bridget to now be trans which again is a different argument, better footing, if anything it should just go to show that hibari ain't the one, there's like nothing to stand on) but hibari is straight up trans, she's written trans, she presents trans the family dynamic is trans it is like the perfect middle point between "great luck they're excepting and immediately adapting" and "uh oh guess i'm ostracized and ridiculed and invalidated possibly kicked out and/or abused" it's as "real" as it'll probably ever be presented in media bc i haven't seen anything as such since as someone with divorced parents and w/ siblings, i got both sides it baffles me what brought my parents together given how close-minded my mom and her side are compared to my dads, so yeah i'm a little too deep into it this, this is such a wall of text and the most chronically online thing i've done but i'm just going to copy this so the next time i might see someone say she's not trans and they're actually an asshole who deserves it i can use it throw some insults and embrace the chronic online-ness
all of this was typed out as nonsense, the anime is almost entirely filler, and does not follow the manga in any way shape or form, the language used isnt the issue, this manga is one of my favorite manga of all time, and the anime is just ok but the character we are discussing isnt even in the anime so idk what you are on about, . the character of hibari, is trans. i dont know what compelled you to write such a huge long thing like this but its very clear that hibari is amab who identifies as a woman. but that has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation or the character in question, eguchi stopped the manga and quit it so we only got one single chapter with the new character, and it is a woman who wraps up her breasts with wrapping and dresses like a boy to look tough and in the story is said to be doing so to be the son her father never had. of course eguchi was writing this character in as a second love interest comedic one at least, for the main two characters, but it never got far, idk how you took " like hibari" as bad, its stating hibari IS trans, but this new character is not, at least not in the same way. @@tropiccheekss
She needs to return. In an age where millions are in her shoes in the real world, I can see Hibari returning to inspire others and keep being her bold, brash, and of course, unstoppable self. Really love her!!
Agreed but its important to note that millions were in her shoes then too- they just didnt know how to word it or couldnt because of the dangers that could follow
The main character is not trans he is Otokonoko
thank you for the incredible honour of allowing me to comment on Hibari's Big Jumper. may we all be as swag as her one day
I don’t consume anime or manga or anything but I stumbled across these videos in my recommendations and I just wanted to say that even as someone for whom a lot of the references to other works go completely over my head I’ve been eagerly working my way through your catalog! Really great work!
Thanks so much!
This show is in desperate need of a reboot
This is what I find extremely interesting. In nearly every way that we can measure, Hibari is trans. Like fully. But in common parlance IN JAPAN, and even per the authors own words, Hibari is described as a “boy who dresses as a girl” or a “girl in spirit”. They still use female Japanese pronouns for her, but the way this is discussed, you’d think most readers have no concept of trans-ness. I find it so interesting. You can present an overtly trans person and have that be entirely accepted by the audience, but the moment we try to describe that as transgender, suddenly it’s an issue. Transphobia in Japan is very different than here in the states. I can’t see how a culture where crossfressinf and gender non conforming behavior (though let’s admit, prominently mtf transitions) is so normalized could be so transphobic.
To add on to the “male-to-female” comment. There are a lot of boyish or masc female characters in Japanese media but they rarely every cross the line in a gender non binary or trans adjacent behavior. They tend to maintain some “girlish” or “feminine” quality to explicitly mark them as women. I figure this has a lot to do with traditional Japanese views on patriarchy.
@@Tortle-Man that lgbt awareness stuff in the west is a reaction to the extreme homophobia and transphobia perpetuated by abrahamic cults
transphobia in japan more conservatism/conformity and ethnocentrism, vs transphobia in a place like the US which is political/ideological and a subset of their increasing science denialism (manufactured)
It's the same reason why gay marriage still isn't a thing despite most people not really being "homophobic".
After the w wars I think our school system became "write down what is written on the chalkboard no questions asked". No critical thinking, no nothing. Just remember the dates and names a day before the test and then forget it all the next day.
Really old people in Japan still sometimes have "opinions" but most... Well just don't think about it.
It's often not hatred. Rather it's about not really caring.
I am a Japanese manga artist. I found your question intriguing, so I’m responding. This comment is translated into English. Very long, sorry.
For Japanese people, defining someone’s (or a character's) internal gender identity with a single term can sometimes feel disrespectful. It might be because we value the freedom of one's abstract inner self. (If someone explicitly states their identity, we respect that.)
When it comes to character design, entertainment aspects are significant. Mystery is a classic charm in characters, and those who don't clarify their sexual orientation possess an allure of "sexual ambiguity." Conversely, characters explicitly stated as transgender lose this sexual mystery and must be enriched with other appeals. The term "otokonoko" (男の娘) primarily describes appearance or behavior and doesn’t necessarily reflect their inner self or sexual orientation. Therefore, characters introduced as "otokonoko" and those introduced as "transgender" have different levels of appeal from the outset.
This is a general view of gender in Japan or in Japanese anime and manga, I think.
I never realized that such thinking could be seen as transphobic. I appreciate your comment for bringing this to my attention.
Additional Note:
Regarding the "male-to-female" comment as a manga artist: Many Japanese creators focus on entertaining their target readers. The situation where a "female-like male" has "very feminine traits" might be to give the character an appealing contrast. A "strong contrast" is a classic charm in character design.
@@moc8729 I think this is a very well spoken and clear response. while I'm not from japan, I have a large passion for japanese media, and it's always been difficult for me to figure out my own feelings about being transgender in contrast to portrayals of trans people in japan, because I feel like the entirety of language and culture is just so different. Your comment has helped me understand the thought process behind why characters are made that way, with the ambiguity on whether a character is "truly" a boy or girl at heart.
I love how it’s made in the 80’s which they didn’t think about trans right or diversity. They just be like “We gonna make a cute trans girl rom-com” lol just a pure feeling of “trans girls are cute”
It's because it is in Japan. Transphobia isn't as much of a deal there as it was (and still is) in the States.
@@adriani9432 That's not quite right tho, transphobia still is and was quite a big issue in japan, it's just not talked about often, and many trans japanese people stay in the closet since it's so hard to come out.
@@bi-messtre2149 I see, thanks for correcting me.
@@bi-messtre2149 Which is very, logical given japans history of conformatism for basic things like even hair color.
@@bi-messtre2149indeed, there is in fact quite a large lgbt community within japan but they're a vocal minority
I, for one, hope Hibari-kun never stops! 🏳️⚧️
whats with these surrender flag. where is the rainbow flag.
@@QWERTY-gp8fdhere’s the rainbow flag 🏳️🌈 👈🏾😼
whats with u? why cant u just 🏳🌈instead of that. @@BaldCoryxKenshinfan
@@QWERTY-gp8fd what do you mean “surrender flag”? 🏳️⚧️ is the trans flag
bro white flag is surrender flag. adding trans emoji afterward makes it seem like u are surrendering being trans.@@Liboo52
As someone who just recently figured out she’s trans, this video was very nice and refreshing to see. Im definitely going to check the manga and anime out!
hope youre doing weel, girl. stay strong on who you are, and the magic will happen
Congratulations on your realization hun! I’m totally going to check this manga out as well😁
bro thinks she is anime character and speaking in 3rd person 💀
@@QWERTY-gp8fdGo back to grade school for reading comprehension 🤦🏻
i wish you well on your journey, sis. you are and have always been a woman, don't let anyone convince you otherwise.
I had never heard of "Stop! Hibari-kun!" before, and after the first minutes of this video, I decided to bingewatch the anime before continuing it. So, first, thanks a lot for making me discover it, I definitely share your opinion on its qualities (but also limits), but secondly, I want to say, I really like the part where you went more in details about the screenwriters This, mostly because episode 17 literally made me cry and I can say for sure its my favorite one. So, I'm really happy to be able to link a name to this specific episode, (and yeah I would have loved more episodes written by Tomomi Tsutsui). Really great video
“impish agent of chaos” is exactly the transition goals i have -u-
Why tho, to be agent of chaos? Chaos is chaotic and could hurt people.
I'd prefer to be a trans agent of love.
...I'd rather to be neithe one's agent. I want to be myself, and gender does not define me.
2:02 my take on that is that he intended Hibari to the an Male Crossdresser, but due to ignorance about the subject (good faith ignorance i guess, it's not like you could just search information in 80s) Hibari is closer to being a trans representation tuan a Crossdresser/Otokonoko rep, as the latters doesn't adopt a full feminine indentity, nor embrace feminity for 24h straight, unlike Hibari.
It's like wanting to depict a fruit you doesn't know so you end mixing the depiction with an banana, so you ending depcting a banana instead of the fruit you intended to show
8:58 oh!! So that's why Kosaku ranges from "I-i d-doesn't l-like you 😳" to "Get out from my sight ur *beep* " in like, one episode of differende i always wondered why this inconsistence existed.
I think everyone agrees on this but because they ended up writing a trans character and how she positively affected a lot of ppl, self acceptance and aspiring to be Hibari is what their takeaway is, and when you interact with fiction the important thing is what you take away from it and how it will impact your real life, whether that be by having a comforting thought of a role model in your mind, watching her as a form of escapism and imaging being in her fictional world, or even ending in understanding that we should treat people in real life with kindness and respect when they show us their inner identity and how like for Hibari, they'll likely mean who they are and you can see that nothing will change who they are on the inside.
So that's how it is, like you can have that banana fruit and keep telling people it's a peach cause you meant to make a peach but you're holding a banana because you made a banana, you can move on and make a real peach or you can keep trying to alter a banana into a peach but one of those options make more sense then the other.
@@hypnopompicfool985 Yeah my comment was never intended to be "Hibari isn't trans because it wasn't intended to be". Because even if it wasn't the intention, it's is obviously depicting a transwoman.
this is my favorite comment thread good job guys
I actually think she might have very well been intended to be trans from the beginning. Actually, at the end chapter of the manga, they also introduce a trans man who has started testosterone hrt, which means at the very least, the mangaka knew surprisingly much about trans people, and intended to include them in the manga. I also think the reason hormone replacement therapy was only mentioned at the end of the series was because had it been done earlier, it would've probably gotten canceled.
Hibari herself in the manga doesn't just crossdress. She refers to herself as a girl/daughter literally all the time, and passes as a girl in school. Also there's a chapter where they meet guys wearing makeup and hibari says they're different from her.
It doesn't have to be spelled out with the word trans to be meant as such. Also I think it makes it even more realistic. I mean I'm trans, and outside of the internet, I don't usually really use the word in conversations.
@@henkkahenrik4183 the trans guy thing was made in the 2010s version, it was an original inclusion when the author aready change his mind about how he saw Hibari.
In the 80s, the author would refer hibari as things such like "a man who looks like a girl" and refer her as a "male crossdresser".
Everything you said really leads to Hibari being trans and indentifying as a woman, however i believe that this was just the author being totally layman to this subject, like he probally wanted to depict a crossdresser but in the 80s people didn't knew that much, he ended depicting a transwoman. And realizing this with time, he decided to embrace that, making Hibari ultimely transgender.
We need more impish trans girls.
Also, I love the Ryuunosuke + Hibari as a duo. (But, Ryuunosuke is *very* trans fem in UY.)
God please no
@@framework333 No to which part?
Correct me if my wrong but isn’t ryuunosuke a girl? I’m pretty sure they were forced to act and dress like a boy cause their dads a POS for being pissed/ in denial he had a daughter and it gotten to a point that she’d regularly roundhouse kick him into the stratosphere screaming she was a girl if he said otherwise. And wanted to wear dresses too OH AND ATARU REGULARLY SIMPED OVER THEM TOO I TOTALLY FORGOT THAT lol
(Overall Ik takahashi has other characters she’s written but I could’ve swore ryuunosukes a straight up girl with a really shitty dad)
@@framework333 more like please yes :3
@@angelar9119I mean she was kinda amab by her dad who refused to let her “come out” to those around her about her true gender. At several points many people straight up don’t believe her to be a girl, they think she’s lying or pretending. The school also refused to let her wear the school uniform and instead listens to her father about what gender presentation would be best for her. I know that she’s not by strict definition trans, but she seams like a thinly veiled metaphor for the trans experience as a whole
It's a translation issue, it's supposed to say "Never Stop Hibari-chan!!!"
Thank you for giving me the phrase, "Even she has days where she looks like she's into Naruto/Sasuke."
Right? I had to stop the video. I was blown😂
She doesnt stop because the people that ask her to stop are transphobic. DONT STOP HIBARI CHAN!!!
That would be a good title for a sequel
what 😐
@@mikebipping6166 is english not ur first lang. She is saying if ur demanding someone to stop being themselves and wear the cloths and identify as they want that ur transphobic. Pretty simple,
@@TinyBoxBin that person isn’t confused lol, all the other comments they’ve made are transphobic i think they know 🤭
@@L0rdOfThePies ugh ur right reeeeee whyyy are people mad at such dum stufffff also love ur pfp lol
Trans rights 🏳️⚧️
A white flag? Does that mean that the transformers give up?
That is wrong. Thank you friend
Yeah!!
hell yeah
One of the best reviews Ive watched in awhile, loved the in depth look into writers and how the story differed. Trans rights!! 🏳️⚧️
Hell to the no entitled AF men in womanface deserve nothing😊
I'm glad that Hibari exists in a way that can inspire or uplift trans people. Crossdressing in Japan is so often depicted in such a disrespectful or predatory way, like okama who are just out there trying to assault men, etc. There's also the common trope of delicate, feminine boys (femboys, traps) being fetishized or having all agency taken from them because they are feminine, so Hibari is refreshing because she does whatever she wants without needing or asking for permission. She's a role model for any young girl to look up to.
I think if they really wanted to push the "haha it's a guy in women's clothes" gag they wouldn't have given Hibari a cis fem voice actor, or at least not for all her lines. Thank you for introducing me to this anime/manga! I doubt I would've heard of it otherwise!!! ^_^
i started watching your videos on gundam and mecha anime because i'm a huge fan of them and i found your commentary to be very thoughtful and really understanding of the thematic intent behind them. i'm now also pleased to see a video tackling themes of gender identity and sexuality in a similarly thoughtful manner! i'm a trans girl, so it makes me happy to see you break down these topics in hibari-kun in a sensitive manner while also acknowledging the context of the culture during its release as well as of the author's strengths and failings alike. please keep up the good work!
I super enjoyed this one Pyramid Inu, partly because I don't see too many people talk about Hibari kun, other than in passing or momentarily about trans characterization.
I think you hit the nail on the head on what is so charming about this work; it's about Hibari herself (either against the world around her or completely charming it). I found the show years ago through it's super delightful opening sequence and song. I really just loved the designs, and wanted to know more about Hibari. I read what I could of the manga later, and yeah, I would agree that it is stronger (or at least more consistent).
The anime is so interesting as a take on this type of story through the collaboration of many people. I've heard a number of animators say in interviews that, working in the 80's and early 90's, they had way more room to storyboard, and put more of themselves into an adaptation. I was thinking about this recently, and how a lot of current anime is strict with their episode count and their character designs. I think it's why I constantly go back to older anime, the creative freedom comes through.
Hands down my favorite part of this were the fashion ratings of both you and Reiclone. I could watch an ENTIRE video of just that, and I mean this. It was just so sweet to hear you guys go into these and explain your response to the designs. I mean this lovingly, and not as a knock against the rest of the amazing work poured into this video T - T ; I promise!
Thank you for the video!
Ahhh thank you for such an involved response! I always really appreciate hearing your thoughts. Totally agree re: the ways in which animators could put their specific spin on key animation in older shows, and the general charm of this series in particular.
Funnily enough, the actual fashion rating recording ended up being two hours with a lot more fits covered haha. I've considered editing more of it and putting it on my side channel, so I'll let you know if I do.
I’m not even trans but this whole video warmed my heart
I love when humans do awesome shit
18:30 what gets me is this outfit feels very early 80's, like something I'd expect Cyndi Lauper to wear in a music video.
Love the Hibarki-kun series and it's great to hear Urusei Yatsura be mentioned! ♡
I highly recommend Mark McLelland's Queer Japan from the Pacific War to the Internet Age. It's not perfect but it delves a lot into the linguistics of the Japanese gay scene and how they've changed over time (for example it spends some time on gei boi, the term that is just translated as "gay" in most subs for funeral parade of roses even tho it has a slightly different valence). It also grounds a lot of its analysis in broader cultural and legal conditions, such as how Shinjuku 2-chome became such a thriving gay bar/brothel area because traditional heterosexual prostitution was made illegal after protests and demands by the post-war feminist movement
I love that idea "maybe they didn't intent to write a trans character but ended up writing a trans character" because I see that all the time. Like if no one even knew what trans identity was artists would produce it from scratch from their life experience and fantasies.
Also I'm reading a lesbian webnovel called Katalepsis and I would bet money one of the main characters is a copy of Hibari.
i’m sorry if this is weird but i love your video essays and i saw you have a loveless icon on twitter… i just wanna say if you ever did a video essay on loveless i would watch it over and over probably 10k times. that manga did crazy things to so many ppls psyche. you rock
thanks for the comment! I don't think I'd do a video on loveless. I read the manga when I was like 13 and it was very important to me in figuring out gender stuff (and the art is still some of my favourite) but I also think it's objectively like, pretty heinous haha. I know what you mean though, I think a deep dive video on it could be really good. maybe something similar to what hazel did with elfen lied....
@@pyramidinu9449 understandable! i love hazel's elfen lied video. i think loveless was probably a lot of people's elfen lied and vice versa lmao. loveless is def pretty heinous and grim-- but the way the characters were written have such dimension to them despite the kind of manga that it was... your reply made me happy! keep up the good work!!!
i like that they dont dress her to be just cute and pretty but to really portray how much of a tough girl she is. it fits her background
This is a fantastic essay. I rarely comment on a youtube video, but this was just above and beyond. One of my favorite shows, but wow I was impressed here! Subscribed and I'm excited to see what else you come up with. I loved the rating of her outfits! Her fashion is legendary.
Thanks so much!
Also, yes. We need more Hibari fics. (Especially since I’ve been too busy to write any lately.)
I’m working on a webtoon with a somewhat similar premise lol, well with a superhero twist lol, but watching this video definitely helped me with how I wanted to approach my main character lol. I myself looked up to her during my transition which inspired this story lol XD watching this video made me appreciate her even more
How did youtube take 5 months to suggest this video? Hibari is goals and an icon. We need more of her. Or a new series that carries that spirit forward and gives a satisfyingly good ending.
"Eguchi... youre gonna make me write fanfic"
That perfectly sums up my feelings about this series. I love Hibari so much and I would love a sequel. So much to the point im planning on storyboarding a fanfiction sequel manga incorporating some parts of the anime into the manga tineline. Then whencim satisfied with the storyboard I'll commission or partner with an artist to fully realize the thing :3
Heck yeah more Hibari talk!! Glad to see more videos highlighting this story
I’m completely enamored with the title of this video
Watched a couple episodes with my friend and there is a shockingly high amount of times where the punchline is loincloth wearing jungle man with a bone in his nose appears out of nowhere for no reason.
Oh
I wanted to watch it but was wary of "the joke is transphobia", I do not wanna be sucker punched by a crap ton of "the joke is racism"
its still a joke. plus this anime is sol u got nice trap mc so everyone is satisfied nothing offensive about it@@CassiusStelar
@@QWERTY-gp8fd you are very uncritical of media aren't you?
Dude, I owned a disc of the infamous 13 Looney Tunes episodes which I used to watch regularly. Just because you (and I) can watch something with problematic elements without getting pissed doesn't mean it isn't problematic in the first place
bro i like more heinous sh,it. if anime aint got depraved stuff depicted in good light i aint liking it. parallel paradise is my favorite.
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wake up babe, it's another video about hibari kun. It's a shame that they didn't give Eguchi more time to publish chapters, this could have been something at the level of Ranma 1/2 without problems.
I also remember that years ago all the anime chapters were uploaded on UA-cam with subs in Spanish haha
Manga is getting an english release LET'S GOOOO
I love this show :D
Thank you for making this videooo
I'm a beginner Trans girl and Hibari is a huge influence and goal not only for her immaculate sense of fashion and style, but also for her unwavering self confidence. Absolute Queen.
Banger vid. Thank you for bringing less mainstream shows and themes to light. Time to explore this new rabbithole.
I like how you explain the different art styles and different story lines written by different directors! You don’t get that kind of diversity feel in the current anime.
Always a good day when Pyramid uploads.
I love hearing about Stop!! Hibari-kun! so I was intrigued to see this come across my recommended videos. I've only read the manga so I had no idea what the show was like and this was a fun overview. Loved the fashion rating segment; as stated elsewhere I am so down for a full video of that. (And also I gotta look into that Dune-esque series; it sounds amazing)
Looking forward to checking out more of your stuff; love your style!
I freaking love 80-90's animes' wacky fashion! It's just so fresh and creative and it inspires me to experiment with my clothes too. The bright blue fedora has to go though---
A really great video. It was nice to see a more in depth video about Hibari-kun, the stuff about Galdeen was super interesting as well.
It feels kind of mean to "nitpick" like this, but Akihiro Miwa rather than voicing Howl: voices The Witch of the Waste. I'm sorry if I've misunderstood though.
Oooof that's an annoying blunder, thanks for pointing it out!
I'd love a video of just you and your friends going over your favourite fits from anime/manga characters. It's a chill time.
Yes! Yes!!! God, this video is SO. GOOD. Long-form TV anime is such great fodder for this type of elemental, exploratory criticism. Would love to see you make more stuff like this if you'd be so inclined.
I'm always amazed at how you get through so many series so quickly. I still haven't finished that Cowboy Bebop set I bought in Feb 2019!
God I want more unexpected outfit/fashion analysis like this
This is a great video! I'm a massive fan of Hibari. I own the original four tonkōbon from Shueisha, some figurines, a vinyl of the soundtrack, even an old section of a magazine with external writing about the show. It's actually the thing that inspired me enough to finally start my transition, so I hold a lot of love in my heart for both the anime and manga, in different ways. The first thing I wanted to publish on my AO3 account was a complete rewrite of the series, but I quickly realised that I wasn't ready to take on such a massive project with my skill level. Soon, I think I'll give it another shot. I've been practicing on other stuff, so I'm a bit more confident now!
Haha in my opinion the fedora outfit is actually wonderfully color coordinated (especially with her hair and eyes) and trendy for the time!! The early 2000s was heavily inspired by the 80s as well!!
I thought Ouran Highschool Host club was a shoujo ahead of its time when it comes the topic discussed in the video but this is also interesting.
As usual, a very thoughtful and intensely pleasant video. The aside about Guldeen now has *me* pining for an untranslated mecha novel series, even as someone who's normally not deep into mecha stuff, not to mention the potential Hibari sequel…
I love Hibari so much because it's literally me and my boyfriend, in both gender, appearance and kinda even personality. My most personal anime fr fr
having read an interview with the author, I don't think he fully grasps transness...and also doesn't realize that he himself might be having trans dysphoria...since he says the reason he draws beautiful girls is that he wishes he looked like them
I mean that doesn't always means that he wants be Trans but yeah there is a chance.
@@andrewacacia9851 I mean fair but it is still a very "not quite cis" thing to say
@@uemochi9316Yeah,but it could also mean be as beatiful(handsome) as them.
@@stampoulisrafael5262 "yeah there is a chance" that's such a cope dog "it is really the frustration of not being born a girl that fuels my drawings" - Hisashi Eguchi , writer aritist and creator of the character hibari ozora and stop!! hbari-kun!
bro only one coping is the author. @@tropiccheekss
I still need to see the series as a whole but when I came across the intro in an 80s compilation and found out it was a unique show generally on top of uniquely cute I so wanted to see more. Your video helped convince me I wouldn't regret it. 😄
This video feels to casual and informative. I love it
Who else is here because of that one amv a year or two ago using habari footage and Sobriety
She is not ahead of her time. She is right in her times! The fedora in the 80s was MAJOR!!! And a lot of people tends to forget it but fashion wise, the 2000s were really really inspired by the 80s and 70s. Hence why the fedora was a staple. It's the 20 years rules of fashion!
But great video. I love love the dissection on the impact of every writer and artists. It is true that key animator and key storyboard artists were a bigger deal before the 90s, but we'll... That's normal. Because it's what making everything by hand does. It takes more time so you put more of you and unlike digital. It's harder for you to go and pass down a scene from hand to hand like it is nowadays where some animators just animate a single character in the same scene and can have this level of flexibility.
Something i noticed with the fashion of the show is people dress like each other. Which is try to life that people dress like people they spend a lot of time with. I love it!!!!! 😻
TYSM FOR SHOWING ME HIBARI
I agree that Hibari is Trans. I did not know the show shared a writer with Sailor Moon, I've spend a lot of time thinking about the who wrote which episodes of Sailor Moon, at least for the first 3 seasons which are the only three Yanagawa wrote for.
Yanagawa wrote the main plot episodes of the Doom Tree Arc. He also wrote both episodes that features Usagi running to school with Toast in her mouth, 37 and the first episode of 2 aka the start of the Doom Tree Saga, they have different directors so it must be Yanagawa's thing.
.His first episode was the 2nd which isn't good, none of the writers but Sumisawa had a great first impression, Early Sailor Moon had to find it's footing rather awkwardly. A better first impression for him would be episode 5 the Chanella episode. Next is episode 7 which is as far I'm currently aware the first ever reference to The Internet in any work of Popular Fictional Entertainment, amazing that it aired on Aprils 25th 1992. Then comes 11 which is a rare case of him writing something Ikuhara directed.
During the Nephrite saga he's no longer limited to one offs, he wrote the introduction episode for Nephrite which sets up the new formula and plants the seeds for the later Naru storyline. Dangerous Dollies is a sort of sequel to the Chanella episode, then he wrote the penultimate episode of the Neprhite storyline. He also wrote the episode that introduced Sailor Jupiter, that was also the 4th episode of the show to be an adaptation of a specific Manga Chapter and it is by far a greater departure from the basic sequence of events then we saw previously, the whole premise is basically rewritten. He also wrote the next episode that I'd say even kind of has Makoto as a focal point Too Many Girlfriends, so he definitely helped define that character in the Anime which is interesting since I wrote a Blog Post recently on how she was changed in the Anime and didn't discus any of the writers involved, feels like an oversight.
Near the end of season 1 he wrote Fractious Friends and the Penultimate episode which are both good. Then came his 4 episodes of the Doom Tree Saga, 1, 5 and 12-13 of R. The rest of R no one btu Sumisawa wrote any good episodes, I don't blame the writers though, the basics of how the Black Moon Saga was adapted were broken entirely. In S he wrote episode 105 another Makoto focused one, 112 the episode that truly the starts what the plot was in the Manga, and 117 another very memorable Ikuhara episode, and then 121 the Tellu episode was his last.
Her fashion was better in 80’s than I have in my closet currently. Want her closet now.
The way people hear the word transgender and take it as a chance to be transphobic in the comments sucks but anyways I love this video and I'll def check out this series!!
Better than True self phobic 🥴
this is lovely (your narration is very soothing). i had no idea this manga/anime existed, it's exciting to learn about it!!
This was such a good video. I love your voice and your script. I'm for sure subscribing. And I've never heard of this series but it looks so good I can't wait to read it
From an outsiderish prospective I kind of like the undefined approach japan takes to gender stuff (modulo the conservatorism).
I doubt matters of gender identity are as solid and well defined as we are making them out to be in the west. I hope our culture moves in a direction of general acceptance for the way people present themselves, aside from the rigid parameters of this or that label.
A lot of that has to do with the Japanese language not being heavily gendered. In many cases, it can actually be difficult to convey gender, especially in a "solid" way. Very little of Japanese language is "solid" concepts. Interpretation is very important within the language.
ngl, the title gave me a good chuckle when I saw it on my recommended. and the video is very good! subscribed.
Absolutely love this series! I practically devoured it when I learnt of its existence and I definitely share some of the same thoughts about it too. Hibari definitely reads as more of a trans girl than a cross dresser to me and the fact that she’s always depicted in such a triumphant kind of way and, like you said, is never the butt of the joke even despite of having an unaccepting family just drives that point home for me.
Hey! Just wanted to say thanks a bunch for the video!
Ive never seen your work before, but was very pleasantly surprised at the quality, match that with showing me something ive never seen or heard of and you got me hooked.
Keep up the good work mate!
I would sell my soul for a live action J drama adaptation of stop hibari kun
Such a great find! Thanks for the lovely video!
I enjoyed your video, the subject, and your various takes and angles on the subject. Kudos.
Lately i see so mamy good anime recomandations. I'm pretty happy to see for once a confident character that doesn't think is thr ultimate moral compass. I like chaotic characters, i think i will watch it.
Well this is cool. I'll have to download this.
Analysis of both super crunchy military/mecha anime and early trans representation in Japanese media? Its like this channel was made with me in mind.
Omggg this anime ❤️you just brought so many memories back
So glad I stumbled on this video, absolutely love anime from 80s
great video! I've read the whole Hibari manga, haven't watched more than 2 episodes of the anime. I *do* know about Fumiko though, thanks to a friend who's written a few hundred thousand words of Ranma 1/2/Hibari Kun fanfic :P
I tell ya, not since "Am I Pretty?" has there been an anime original character/story that's served as so much fuel for trans fic
this channel is rapidly becoming one of my faves. amazing vid!!
I am so glad I stumbled onto this
The agent of chaos, assertive, take-me-as-I-am early mamga/anime as I am somebody who wants to see women on their own terms
I miss this less self conscious period
Hisashi intented for hibari to be trans no matter what. Sure hibari can be a bit pushy in expressing her love but like it adds to her character waymore
I'm pretty sure in a recent interview, the creator stated that the updated language around transgenderism would make Hibari trans. So yes, they're a trans woman.
Do you have a link to the interview? It didn't come up in my research, but sounds great.
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Sorry, I was incorrect. The creator is an egg, or was at the time. He made hibari with the intent to express his gender dysphoria and desire to be a woman, but the language at the time couldn't express it properly.
a second interview here
tardimarii.blogspot.com/2019/03/interview-with-hisashi-eguchi-in-sex.html
@@mushmush4980ofc a secret troon would make an anime self insert of guess what? A troon🙄
@@Naruto_fishcake exercise the 2nd amendment on yourself
My pretty solid understanding of my gender when "hey, wouldn't it be rad to be Hibari" walks in:
I never really appreciated the stylistic discrepencies from episode-to-episode in the anime, thanks for pointing it out because it's really cool!
Yeah, as very great as the anime is, some of the anime-original content certainly doesn't hit the mark, iirc Hisachi Eguchi mentioned not being a big fan of the anime. Though, I don't have a source on that, just sort of something off the top of my head. I mainly think of it when I see the few times in anime subtitles where Hibari refers to herself in a masculine way which never happens in the manga.
The fact that the characters actually wear different clothes is such a good touch.
ooo hibari inspired series (plural), nice
I love how progressive 80/90s mangas are for some reason
i really love how calm your voice is ! gained a new subscriber ❤
Trans stories are always something in anime and manga. Not my cup of tea for many reasons, but the production tends to be nice. Gender identity, presentation and manhood get messy for me. So I avoid shows like Hibari, but I always did wonder how the rest of the show went along after the first few chapters and episodes that I caught. Nice to be able to experience that in a video essay.
Mmm. Being trans (male) myself, I generally feel uncomfortable with stories that primarily focus on (or have a large focus on) trans characters, because of the inevitable negative takes shown by people either in the media itself, the people creating the media (which affect how said trans character(s) is (are) portrayed), or by the viewers. Videos like these though are nice because I can see the plot and the way Hibari’s character is generally treated without cruelty in the show itself and by the video maker, the former of which is refreshing to see especially for an older show
its just boring imo. i need some kind of conflict particularly not soft as simple gender problem.@@cameronschyuder9034
A volume of the manga made a cameo in the anime Sonny Boy (which Eguchi did the character designs for)
I love this series. I’m so glad it’s getting more attention.
As someone who is more so closeted trans female but really don’t fit in many communities, I loved the anime, it was a touching but funny anime. When come down to it it kinda just one if few of few anime of the era to tackle the issue.