The secret is out. These schools are far too expensive and overpriced. People know now that degrees don't necessarily mean a good paying job anymore. The crushing loan debt many students take on to graduate just isn't worth it for more and more people who don't want to be crushed with debt right out of the gate. Unless you know that you are going to be a successful doctor , lawyer , or some other type of successful big earner , taking on so much debt is looking like a poorer choice to make than ever before.
Mhm, and half of these jobs don't even require it either, so no, I'm not gonna put myself through all that stress of debt for a degree that is not valued foh 😂😂
Truth. I am an 80's kid (born 1971). For us it was go to college or you were a disgrace to your family. We had nothing so I took out loans for school, books, etc, Whatever they offered me. I was 18! I dint know any better and like many changed my major and had to add more years. Now at 53 I have been aged out of the corporate world (eliminated) and am working a low end job. My friends who went directly into the trades and/or union jobs are well off, some have even retired already. COLLEGE IS A WASTE! Intern, apprentice, learn a trade and start making $$$ right away.
Not going to happen while the FEDs are giving them sub-prime student loans. Make it private again, prices would drop and interest rates would go up for education.
Get the unions out of the state taxpayers subsidized colleges. Everyone being paid very well and benefits to match that’s why they’re closing. They ran out of other people’s money.
I just finished my associate degree for transfer and starting my BA in the Spring of 2025. Some of the issues I faced were counselors that were clueless. I would go in and one counselor would tell me that I need these classes. I would go in next semester and someone else would tell me that I didn't need a previous class that another counselor told me to take. The bureaucracy as well, I would go to the administration building with simple questions and was directed to different offices for each. I had to see a transfer counselor, a major counselor, etc. etc. instead of just training all of them in everything to be more efficient. Then comes the academics, Most of the classes at the community college were repeats of classes in high school. Really pointless, during my whole time at the community college I only took two classes for my major. This system is really primitive and needs to be changed. Those general education classes are pretty much high school 2.0. Wasting people's time and money.
I remember going to the counselors and they basically pulled out the course catalog. I figured I could do that. Afterwards all I did was go in with a course catalog and get them to sign off on what I figured out on my own.
@ Has happened to me as well, super annoying. My favorite is when you ask them for something and they direct you online or to a pamphlet instead of just telling you.
@@alexbr550 lol nothing has changed then cause I remembering being in college in 2008 and it was always like this 🤣🤣🤣 this use to piss me off so much, people getting paid for not knowing their jobs or being lazy
@@Centurion305 I disagree. Useless courses and majors will be obsolete. Admin will be cut down, building sold, prices slashed to entice and tenure gone. Too many people have been living high off the hog. Its about damn time.
@@Centurion305 I disagree. When DOGE ends the federal student loan programs by the ending of the DOE, university dollars will dry up leading to a massive reduction in education and prices along with it. People will be able to pay for college with sidejobs again, just like the 1970s.
Yes, that’s the point. Decades of successful activism from 50s-70s centered around higher ed. There’s been a 40 year effort to de-educate society. Higher ed was never meant to be centered around work attainment. It was meant to enrich people’s lives and ensure a healthy democracy. We can’t have a properly functioning democracy without an educated populace. However, capital accumulation is diametrically opposed to democracy. It’s also why they’ve been working on privatizing public ed over all.
getting 60K right out of college? where? i'm looking for work, 20 yrs out of college and according to what i'm seeing it is more like kids right out of school will get 40-50k at max (pre tax) most fields. no where near 60k. still, i agree college is a horrible investment. go to trade school, much cheaper, or get a job where they can train you and then you can make a good/decent wage.
@@SingleatChurch Yes, but trade schools don’t provide an education, they only provide very narrow training. Higher education has been made expensive since the 80s in order to prevent an educated and integrated populace, which is necessary within a democracy. There was “too much democracy” in the 60s-70s-literal wording used by the Trilateral Commission. Higher education is often the only time/environment where people seriously question/contemplate their deeply held beliefs/misconceptions/assumptions openly. Even just learning history (ie: labor history) is indispensable-or a course on how “prop…” is used against the public. Again, it’s not only critically important for personal development, but for communities and society overall. I had to misspell in order to post this.
As an adult student who recently return to college, it was fairly obvious that this sector of the economy would be seeing changes. Most of typical liberal arts students were taking classes where "A" grades were nearly assured. The math and science students, on the other hand, were failing out at alarming rates. No one seemed particularly concerned that 60% to 70% of the students didn't reach the final exams in STEM required math courses. It seems an obvious 'red flag' that these two conditions could exist in the same institution.
College graduates should be viewed as an investment to the economy. In Asia public colleges are free but in America it's a BUSINESS to scam students/parents.
I agree, federal government funding a education has not kept up with any sort of increases in tuition. It is viewed as entitlement and if Republicans had their way with everything there would be no college funding for anyone
It's not free. Good school extremely competitive to get in. Unlike the US, there tons and tons of school options and financial aid. Most Asian schools are highly competitive and pricy
A lot of young adults borrowing a ton of money to basically go party for 4 years and at least 50% will get worthless degrees that will in no way prepare them to succeed in the work force.
Almost no degree from a 4 year college prepares you for the job force. The only degrees that prepare you for the work force are those that teach specific skills like nursing.
I went to an Ivy League uni expecting it would guarantee a career. It didn't. Very weak career counseling. Realized afterwards that people just go there to network. How would my working class as* know that? Thankfully all my expenses were covered by financial aid + some part-time work.
Greedy colleges raising tuition at a rate of 400% vs inflation. Not worth the $$ anymore unless you’re specializing in something specific and it’s required.
I know someone who went to Alabama for four years. During that time head football coach Nick Saban made $35 million. Where does that money come from? Partly from students' tuition.
@@muffs55mercury61actually that’s 1 example of where it’s the opposite. My wife worked for HR for LSU. She has hired coaches. The football program is a cash cow for the schools. They make way more $. Tuition doesn’t cover a penny of those coaches salaries. But I agree with the frustration. Pay them all less. Makes school more affordable. As an underwriter myself, I’ve done loans for SEC coaches. I have seen on paper 1st hand the $ they make. It’s disgusting when the players make $0.
People are starting to realize that a college education isn't the solution that we've been told it is. It cost a lot of money and graduates are finding that the market is over saturated with graduates and not enough jobs. Nobody wants to take on the debt of student loans only to get a job that doesn't require one. Most US jobs are labor jobs.
This was needed. International students were spending tons of their hard earned money and their family's money on graduate education in the US, and the system kept letting them in without considering how all these people would get employed. People are sitting jobless, waiting to go back home with massive student loans. Its a disaster.
@RobertMJohnson exactly. In the same way even students are not obligated to attend universities that can't give any guarantees of job placements. It's the foolishness of students and their families and their blind optimism about American universities that is causing problems for everyone. Which is why my comment implies that it would be in everyone's best interests if international students stop coming to American universities.
@@anishray7401 uh...no. your original comment is almost entirely inaccurate. 1) international students attend university in the US and tend to pay full price and 2) no one is responsible for international students after they graduate, and they don't get to stay in the United States. if they return home without a job, that is their responsibility, not anyone's in the US.
There are too many small colleges that lack the scale to provide a quality, affordable learning experience. For too long too many students have not been getting value for their investment. Reform of higher ed is long overdue.
Yeah. Big and prestigious colleges won’t have a problem. UT Austin, NYU, Harvard… but small expensive or generally those with low reputations will have drop offs.
Honestly, it’s the small community colleges (some of which are now just becoming colleges with 4 year programs) that are the cheapest institutions and provide solid classes with small class sizes thus more accessibility to the instructors for help. The larger universities are more expensive, more ideologically subverted, and have massive lecture halls making it hard to find one on one help. The biggest universities have the largest egos and make students pay a premium for the logo. So I’m not sure I exactly agree with your assessment here.
@@jefffinkbonner9551 Ideologically subverted? You mean insist on tolerance of minorities. That is so awful they do that isn't it? Just think of it. Black and Hispanic and gay people are treated as equal to me! What's the world coming to?
All caused by Donald Trump's handling of covid and his first defunding of the department of education back then plus the current Project 2025 to shut down public education and turn university education for the top one percent and their peasants who believe they are millionaires...right?
This isn’t good. This average reading level in the United States right now is 6th grade. If these colleges start closing, high schools need to become MUCH better at educating young people. Americans aren’t well educated and this will make it worse.
I've watched videos from professors and witnessed my own step kids struggling with reading I got involved and got them up to where is was at 15 they were going into college it's sad. Even had to teach them cursive which took a whopping three days about three hours each time is there any reason why it was skipped?
@@patrickday4206 Agreed, but lets take a step back. It is my opinion that children should arrive day one in Kindergarten able to write their name and read simple books meant for beginning readers. My wife taught our children to read using the children's " Biscuit" book series. They also learned numbers and phonics with developmental grade level cd rom games. We worked with their teachers on developing writing skills.. today's parents simply do not do their part in my opinion. They simply hand the kid a tablet or phone and send them away.
I checked the tuition of my undergrad university and compared their tuition to now. It went up 18x, but part-time job salaries sure as hell have not. I paid my way thru school tutoring and grading papers and ended up w/ only 11 grand in student loans. That’s sure as hell not possible today.
Im all for this. Too many useless degrees, useless classes, advisors, professors and universities charging $$$$$ anyway they can. As a urban design graduate with prior knowledge wayyy before enrollment i found that my experience working with city planners, landscape architects etc was far more knowledgeable than school. I could've done it without a degree. But hey, I played the game and grateful i just have 25k in student loans
Babies peaked in 2008. In 2024, the peakers are 16 and they will keep dropping in number going forward. Closures of LOTS of high schools and colleges (and loss of workers) is coming.
More like 2007. The birthrates peaked in 2007, not 2008. People born in 2007 are currently 16-17 years old right now, which means they're either high school seniors or juniors. Next summer will be the last summer with plenty of high school grads. Summer of '26 will be painful to watch.
I returned to college as a older student. What I noticed and experienced was younger students have a very limited vocabulary, limited communication skills in both speaking and listening most do not have comprehensive thinking skills and abilities. Poor or no study skills most students do not officially know or understand what kind of learner they are and what is the best time of the day where they can personally learn the best and where their memory is excellent and it varies from person to person! My big criticism with colleges is where speed reading is not taught and it’s not encouraged we live in a digital age so everyone needs to read and remember more and faster and faster as we move forward with new and evolving technology and as our world moves forward!
Colleges have prioritized a business model over education. Students are forced to go into debt and pay for classes they won’t necessarily need for their degree, just to graduate and not even use the degree they spent 4 years attaining. Add to that the fact that we have all the information in human history at our fingertips, and the “prestige” of these universities have dwindled because of the crazy indoctrination they’ve moved towards, it’s really not worth the investment.
There are vocational schools for students who want job training as opposed to a well rounded education, no? A computer science major may actually be enriched by a class on Roman history or 18th century American politics. They may even learn a valuable skill, such as how to write well. The student’s life may be enriched by learning how to evaluate a renaissance sculpture (or something they pick up in a general education course). I wasn’t a music major, but my jazz appreciation class opened a whole world of music to me and gave me the knowledge to appreciate the nuance and artistic sophistication of jazz that is lost on many. I didn’t major in languages, but by taking courses in four different languages up to intermediate and advanced proficiency, opportunities have opened up that could not have anticipated, and I’m a more informed citizen of the world as a result. Let us not also forget that many 18-22 year olds aren’t typically knowledgeable enough about the diversity of disciplines to make an informed decision about major declaration, which is why many change majors after a semester or two. Imagine getting locked into a cyber security degree because in high school it sounded cool or because of external pressure from parents and counselors only to realize you hate it, but because you only took classes in computer science, you don’t know what other options there are that could be personally fulfilling. My eventual major wasn’t something I considered when I went off to university; thank goodness I was encouraged to take a variety of courses, many of which gave me the highly transferable skills that have made for an intellectually enriching life and successful career.
@@brianh4625 I get your point and to a certain extent I agree, however when you have kids going into five figures worth of debt that can't even be discharged in bankruptcy, something has to change. All of these extra courses cost money and therefore debt. I say that as someone who loves literature, art and the humanities.
@@ceruleanwing4549 I don't think there's much daylight between our views, and I cannot dispute what you point out. One thing that doesn't get mentioned regarding extraneous courses is that advisors actually discourage students from taking courses that aren't part of their degree plan, and many states will not cover costs of courses that are outside of the degree plan. So, if you're a History major and you want to take a course in Python or Data Security, your state-funding wouldn't cover it, you'd have to pay out of pocket, and all the while you'd have a staff advisors begging you not to take that course because it could affect your time to graduation and debt situation. The advisors have a vested interest in keeping students out of those courses since some states allocate resources based on "performance-based funding metrics" which may include, as in my state, 4-year graduation rates. Nevertheless, students will often times defy the advice from their advisors and enroll in what they want. I'm in favor of students making their own educational decisions, informed by the counsel of advisors, but admittedly it is complicated by the predatory lending practices that concern both of us; the students may not appreciate that their 50k loan could balloon to a figure that they'll never pay down as interest accrues. Financial literacy is a problem, not that universities don't share in culpability, and financial literacy, likely most forms of literacy, should probably start at home, especially since the general public is suspicious of educators teaching values in the classroom.
@@ceruleanwing4549 I think we're largely in agreement. At many universities academic advisors are under a lot of pressure to discourage students from taking courses outside their degree programs because of the financial consequences for the student (need-based aid may not pay for it, but private loans will) and the university (delay in time to graduation may run afoul "performance based funding metrics). No one talks about this in these discussions and merely assumes there aren't guard-rails in place to keep students who cannot afford to take courses for leisure from doing so. However, students will do what they want; advisors cannot prevent them from purchasing a seat in a course if the student wants it and meets the prereqs. It seems a big problem is financial literacy, which should probably start at home well before college so that by the time they are old enough to destroy their credit rating, they are aware of how a 50k loan can balloon into a debt so large they never pay down the principal.
Look up "college closures." A huge percentage are "beauty" (cosmetology, hair and makeup design) colleges. No kidding. Many others are joke things like "integrative medicine." Under one per cent are what you would recognize as an actual college or university.
True I saw that Verizon sponsored edX as a way to micro credentialize for their workers It's pretty cool 50 bucks in your educated in some business concept instead of spending thousands😊
@ also professors who do not like to teach and don’t want students to learn and are only there for the money should make space for those teachers/ professors who truly care about the student learning
Reasons for closures: 1. Outrageous cost. 2. Degree inflation. 3. 70% of what you learn is out of date by the time you graduate. 4. No return on investment over your lifetime. Only 3 degrees still get a return on investment. Computer engineering (memory, processors, etc.) Chemical/geological engineering. Specialist MDs (like neurologists). 5. The education you receive is sub-par. 6. 80% of careers will be gone in 7 years due to LLMs and AGI. 7. College is primarily to hook-up and binge drink. 8. Academia is hostile to anyone not woke. 9. Higher ed is a scam. 10. Higher ed is a big scam. 11. Higher ed is an industry designed to extract money from people in a massive, multilevel scam starting at the birth of a child.
In a county and state that saw so many plant closings and thousands put out of jobs in a span of a few years. They all were told to be re employable .. they had to have better education. Tell me .. what “businesses “ profited from employer lay offs?
Want the cost of college to go down. Force colleges to get rid of the non essential classes. No one needs a class that doesn’t directly pertain to their field of study. Colleges sold everyone on the idea of a liberal arts program, in which students needed to be well rounded. So students are required to take courses that are a waste of time and money. Example: why would a person who wants to become a CPA need to have a course in the history of pottery or music? They don’t need it.
I have a Nurse friend of mine taking Government right now to further her degree. We all have to take Government in high school. Why are we retaking high schools classes? Why do our classes Expire? I didnt go back to further my career because I had 3 classes that expired shortly after I got out of Nursing School and they were very time consuming.
@@edbetsworth2772 many students need more variety in classes because they have no idea what their field of study will be. Many freshmen are ‘Undecided’ and many others change their majors based on classes they are required to take along with their major.
This is what’s happen when you have an over commodification of students and an overstaffed administration team that only cares about money and look at students like cash cows! 🐄 😢
A college degree only gets you a job that pays $15 to $18 per hour. Why bother with debt you'll never be able to pay off. Your job only pays marginally better than a fast food job.
My thoughts exactly. Most US jobs are labor jobs that don't require a college education. As it's been said before, we still need ditch diggers, and nobody wants to take on the student debt to do a job that doesn't even require a college education.
@@ScottCleve33 Girl, ditch diggers need to go to mortuary school in my state. Also, the US is an intelligence and service based economy, not a labor or manufacturing one. Like, we legit shipped most of those jobs overseas because of it.
Many hospitals are missing thousands of doctors& registered nurses. Further, many hospitals and clinics only have either nurse practioners substituting as doctors, so sad. Most clinics only have assistants in: medical, dental, physician, nursing, physical, but no actual medical primary care doctors or rarely nurses.
@katrinagarrett9612 more because anti US rhetoric in China. Lo's of anti US and anti western propaganda in China these last few years. It wasn't nearly this bad when I was growing up, now it's on all over the media because all are state controlled.
Colleges have gotten greedier and so many professors have become so high maintenance with unrealistic expectation. Administrators have also gotten lazier and more confusing too. Colleges are self destructing themselves with their greed
Why do we as a species not want others in our species to be as smart as possible or as they want to? Education should be free and encouraged. Living in the dark ages doesn’t seem like fun.
The kids come out more stupid than when they went in... They do not learn to think critically, but to parrot leftist socialist and communist and feminist propaganda...
The bonds are sold as an investment for others in the school. Also an endowment can't just be spent randomly or all at once, parts of it are specifically allocated to different things/departments/types of funding a d that often can't change. So if I donate to a school I can say this money goes only to the arts or financial aid or etc, not anything else.
That has nothing to do with it, it has to do with these colleges being greedy, and corrupt!!! And I agree with people stopping having kids, these children have no future!!! I told my own child not to have children, that it would be in his best interest!! It's not sustainable it's ridiculous! The United States of America is absolutely ridiculous 27 to 29 other countries pay for their residents that live there to go to college for free, and they have a national healthcare system for free, we paid just as much money in taxes over here in the United States of America and we don't get crap! We are being ripped off every single day we live in this country!! It's shameful and disgusting!!!!
It doesn't matter if the birth rate drops a little. The country and the world are still overpopulated. The majority of ppl are having kids. Birth rate is 12,023 births per 1,000 people (4 M births per year). The current U.S. population is 335+ Million. Also, birth rate will increase due to abortion restrictions. (And more kids will be neglected/ abused by the parents who didn't want them in the first place. Add to that, no college, and you get messed up, uneducated adults who are more likely to be poor and/ or criminals.)
The government takes responsibility for some of this. I can't give an accurate percent. But the minute the government started backing loans and handing out grants colleges just started and has continued to raise rates creating a stupid cycle where they raise the amount of the grant and the college raises tuition. Worse is that the rate of tuition rising severely outpaces US inflation.
When i was a college student during the covid pandemic i lived offcampus. One day we had a group of friends over and the next day the school emailed us with word for word lyrics from the music we were playing. They told us the music was inappropriate and we would be suspended or even expelled if it continued. How is that legal? Oh wait, its not. My house got robbed while we were gone for christmas break and the “investigato” the school provided did not contact us again after an inital phone call. Then he is the same guy we have to have a zoom conference with later on over the “inappropriate music”. Absolute invasion of privacy and absolute corruption or authority.
@@VintageSoloHarmony what was what my guy? I hope you were not an english professor cause you need to relearn what the difference between a subject and a predicate. I am assuming you are asking what song we were playing? Why would i answer that? That is clearly not the point
@. Ok ok, Actually I published several books and loads of articles, no errors. Genuinely, what was the school calling “inappropriate? Was it copyright, rude, or what? Just asking.
@@VintageSoloHarmony The university claimed it was inappropriate just because it contained explicit lyrics. Curse words. When last time i checked we are all adults and are entitled to privacy especially in our own homes off campus. It was just a witch hunt plain and simple. The students who reported other students getting together during Covid were rewarded by the “investigators.” Aka university brand thought police.
My daughter is a sophomore in HS in PA, so there are plenty of colleges in the state to look at. Her orchestra was going to do a day at Gettysburg College, so I looked it up online….86k a year? For a college smaller than her high school? What are they thinking? I am lucky, she has said several times, she does not want loans, so she wants the most cost effective path to get her degree. I also told her no stupid ology type majors. She has also said she doesn’t care about football games, the party scene, etc. I know for many kids it’s more about having fun. How fun is it to be paying back loans for 20 years? She wants to be an actuary, so her education with be centered on math, statistics, economics. The more I look at schools…..the more I think this is such a scam. Ever since the govt backed student loans (which you can never write off in bankruptcy) college costs have increased many times the rate of inflation…..and it’s just screwing over students. Go back to how it was prior to what, the mid 90s? When I went to a state school 90-94, everything, including room and board was 10k/yr. Now that would be like 35k yr. State schools should be affordable. No one can afford college, a house, etc…..young people are screwed today.
@@anneb889 if you want her to study in PA, why not Penn State? If you prefer a smaller college there are 3-4 colleges near Philadelphia like Bryn Mwar, Swarthmore, Haverford, Villanova etc that might also be worthwhile.
@ All those schools are like Gettysburg, tuition 60k +/yr. It will also come down to if she wants to play lacrosse in college or not, but it is ridiculous what college costs now.
You forgot inflation. 10k in 1990 is the equivalent of 24k in today's money. Also you are being quite hyperbolic with estimates of 35k for room and board, more like 12-18k on top of tuition. You also should consider the strength of private colleges when it comes to financial aid. Thanks to their endowments, they can cover full tuition for parents who make under a certain amount of money.
Your daughter sounds like she has a good head on her shoulders. If she's concerned about debt maybe she can do some of her credits at a community college?
@@EvilThunderB0lt I just looked up what Pitt costs today (where I went to college)….for tuition, fees, room and board….its 40k (in state). So, it has increased much more than inflation, as it’s well over 24k inflation calculator. If you’re a family who isn’t poor enough to qualify for Pell grants….then that’s a hefty loan to take on, (approx 160k) esp for a state school.
One silver lining is that many socially maladjusted, soft science, adjunct falculty will have to get real jobs with adult co-workers, instead of working in an environment of ever refreshening (every 4 years) young adults. This lack of maturity in the environment never challenges their (faculty) arrested development.
Generally speaking a colleges and Universities are not vocational schools. They are institutions of higher learning. History, philosophy, and literature are not fluff.
I actually hope we start seeing more specialization schools for STEM. I think that's the future for these kinds of engineering fields. All of the other education you receive is mostly bullshit.
@@kifacorea I studied the social sciences in grade school, junior h.s., and high school. Why study subjects like U.S. history for the FOURTH time?!🙄 Is it really about creating better human beings, or do I detect an ulterior motive (i.e., money)? Hmmm.🤨
If one year has passed from the time you receive your degree and you still have not found gainful employment with your degree, you should get reimbursed by the school for the entirety of your tuition. Thank you.
Closures have already started. That's what the video is about. You're just looking for a way to put it on Trump. However democrats telling us that a college education is the answer to everything has been false. They've just convinced more and more people to put themselves into debt.
My dad was a dentist for uk NHS, providing free dental care, until 1970 when small patients payment started. I went to state school, got into Oxford where for 4 years there was no fees, free lodging and meals…and a living allowance (pay). I worked 43 years, in state subsidized colleges in 3 countries and am retired with several modest pensions, two of which are defined benefit. If that’s an “ism” it’s a bloody good one. It’s called good govt and flourishing society. Bloomberg plays a role but there are many others to make a good play. The suggestion that college is for ROI is so tedious, suffocating.
But they charge exorbitant forbidden cost for those citizens who are eager to go study .. especially kids of full tax paying parents!! Where as same college is free for kids of those who pay no or little tax to govt
Not necessarily a bad thing. Instead of getting into debt for a useless degree, those who are not academically inclined are much better off going to trade school.
College is a rip off in both money and time. Say you are interested in finance. You just need two years at most not four. The colleges just want to squeeze more money out of you for keeping you there for four years. Most of the stuff that is called the core curriculum is a total waste of time.
American Colleges used to be respected institutions....but today....they are a financial people-mill who will take even sub-standard apllicants as long as the applicant can sign a Student Loan document...😢
To be honest, as a returning post Baccalaureate student, this issue goes both ways. Priorities have shifted significantly as well as the bloated administrations. On one hand, yes you do have ridiculous beauracracy that makes things 10× harder than they need to be, but kids do not... and I mean do not... have any fuckin clue what's going on. They have no positional awareness of the purpose behind their decisions. Its like kids are thinking "oh this makes a lot of money... I'll just go and do this...." they do not give 2 fucks anymore. The impetus is on them as much as it is the administration. The cynicism is being applied in both directions and it's not healthy for anything or anyone. Colleges are an amazing place if you make them that way. Its about what you put into it, and not always "what you are getting out of it." Because of the rising costs I see why people are starting to get mad and flip on this, but jeez you can make something out of nothing, and turn your college experience into something really great. Start a club, do some research, present that to your professors and your peers. Work with people, talk to people, learn what you can. Professors do suck sometimes at teaching (mainly because I think they are out of touch with rapidly changing times) but they are usually pretty interesting and incredible people in their own way if you take the time to get to know them. Have some interests and passions outside of your coursework and find a way to integrate it. Take some time to understand the history of your courses you are taking. This helps build a context to help you understand why you have to learn the material. Some stuff is outdated yes, but honestly most of it isn't. It's about the fact you are standing on the shoulders of giants. Understand where you are and where you stand. This will give you a purpose as to why you are doing what you are doing. But man. Im in my mid 20s now, and seeing all these early 20 year old act and how they talk. Its like take some fucking pride in what you do. You are going to college, where you have the chance to learn in a directed manner about the most important contributions in history. You can definitely self teach nowadays in most ways, but you still need college to accredit yourself. To be able to receive a stamp of approval from your professor to say "this person understands the implications sufficiently to move on into the field" is an honor. And there's no appreciation for that anymore as far as I've seen.
You were a boot licker in school, weren't you? 😂 Half of the shit you "learn" in college is shit you don't need or even want to learn! Yet, you are still getting into debt by going there... That is where many people have a problem with.
It's clear you have a romantic view of college. The kids aren't proud because there's nothing to be proud of. They didn't make their decisions. They're kids who are doing what they're told. What you're demanding from them is an intellectual perspective that the institutions fail to cultivate. They're told at a very young age that if they don't go to college they will be poor. The industry excels at marketing for that insecurity. That's why they go. When I visited my state's university campuses for work, I asked a few what they think. The most interesting conversations were related to debt, the uncertainty of their future, and the realization they have been lied to by parents and institutions. It's not just rising costs. It's the experience not meeting expectations. Interacting with them, I can understand why people go to college. It's very glamorous. Meeting international students, the art, the luxury of the campus, the overpriced food, the "standing on the shoulders of giants", feeling like what you're doing is worth it and meaningful. But I'm glad I didn't fall for the debt trap. It's honestly disturbing how much hubris schools and graduates have. And being in my mid 20s now, I feel vindicated in my skepticism. Cause when I look to people my age who did go to college, I see someone in a worse position. Whose future is just as unclear as mine. There is no honor in that.
@BristolBerg if U.S education is so top tier, why is China so ahead jn technology? Oh " China steals"? But the U.S can't even create its own chips. It literally claims a Taiwanese company. Smh.
Who wants to be $50,000 or more in debt? The younger folks have wised up and saying no way. They don't want to contribute to paying $8 million or more a year for football coaches just for starters. And then they've realized these recruiters are often playing the bait and switch game. I never went to college and made a good living for 42 years. Let these greedy institutions go broke.
Most are well under that amount in debt. I own a business and employ people who don’t go to college even though I have a masters. It depends on what you choose to do with it.
I completely understand, as a college student I've continually payed more and more each semester, all the while my curriculum seems to only become worst and worst as we're spending less time in class learning actual material and more time doing online studying and homework through third party software. I take in person classes but yet feel like my classes are the least important asecpt of the semester. Everything is online now and big shock but students hate online classes, this was expresses all through covid and were seeing the repercussions of colleges trying to switch up how they teach kids. Nobody is becoming motivated from an online textbook, sorry.
These are very small schools that were on their last leg anyway. If they don’t have enough successful alumni that are willing to step in and save the school, then what does that tell you?
COLLEGE DEBT HAS RUINED THE LIVES OF TOO MANY PEOPLE. The government needs to make loans directly to students and cut out the middle man who becoming billionaires off our money.
The higher education industrial complex…eliminate the 1st 2 years of college by rolling it into high school and making a BA or BS degree 2 years. Cost prices by 1/2.
@ That’s increasing standards by making High School more rigorous. 1st 2 years of college is essentially a repeat of high school. I think England has a universal program where students can knock out 2 years of college while in high school. In the US, High School students can get AP and college credit before graduation but the process is piecemeal and not universal
Colleges have hiked prices significantly faster than the rate of inflation, why is everyone so surprised that demand would go down? The substitution effect is a very real- when you can nearly as much in trades than with a college education, but with much less upfront cost and time required, some people will decide to forego college.
As someone who was forced to pay for a theater class in order to get a chemistry degree, I can see why most of the comments section are happy with this news.
Occupations should have board exams for the state. You can study online or study at a university with the goal to pass and work in the profession. Stop making colleges a complete requirement for nothing.
I learned more about native Americans from 45 minutes of ken Burnes the West on Netflix than I did in Native American studies at university. College in the US is a scam. Also, I was going to school for engineering, just teach me engineering!
Paid for over the next 30 years by the graduating class. Admin is long overdue for a serious gutting. Online courses and apprenticeships will take over.
It is. Many of these statewide studies published by economists at privately held think tanks, like the Heritage Foundation, have arrived at these conclusions. Just because YOU can’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not true.
@@colbycarr4794 The Heritage Foundation is a right wing ideologue organization. So it’s unintelligent to take what they say on face value. Reality is that education needs to be a public good.
@ several studies by many institutions, suggest this. Most right-wing institutions are hammering away at colleges and are actually taking your side on this matter so not sure what your point was.
@@mauricioangulos.2830 The administrators and middlemen. It's just administrative bloat. There are a lot of them and they get paid very well. They do practically nothing and they ruin things for everybody else by driving the price up.
The good jobs are in trades. Plumbers, electricians, and HVAC people never get laid off. Master carpenters always have work. This country is short of truck drivers. Art historians, degrees in women’s studies, not much.
So what! You go get a trade job! And anyone who wants to do the same great. But who the hell are you to tell anyone else what the good job is or isn’t. Get you a job and then sit down and shut up.
Universities are the modern supplant of past corruptions of religion and churches. Modern education is based upon indulgences in many forms including coherence of expression, sports, political belief and educational dogma. Knowledge is no longer a primary purpose. Faculty are the new inquisitors able to judge and pronounce punishment with impunity. Universities should be dissolved in a manner similar to that of the reformation. I worked at three of the leading universities in the country for 14 years in a sensitive compliance position.
@@arthurbrumagem3844 I met my husband in the early 80’s. One of the local community colleges offered trade school. He got his 2 year associate degree & plumbing certificate. My grandmother used to tell us if you can’t find a rich man to marry, lawyer, doctor & such well than marry a man with a trade. They will always have work. She was right. 😂😂😂
Good, because the academic market was over saturated. That is what you do in a free market, when there is to much competition some organizations and corporations need to close.
No Masters, no Bachelors, no Associates degree, hell, I don't even have a high school diploma. I DO however have a three-ring binder full of specialized technical certifications that qualify me as a Subject Matter Expert in my field. Made about $160,000 a year (only debt being a home mortgage and two car payments) and was a CAD/Robotics/Additive Manufacturing Instructor before I retired. My HOBBIES include Comparative Religion Studies, Art, 1930s German Cinema, pre-comics code authority horror comics and collecting Gothic Bluegrass/Murder Ballad Folk Music on vinyl.
College of any kind should cost at a mask 10-12k a year, not a penny more. Presidents need to make less, and governments need to more heavily subsidize
I graduated with $16,000 in debt with 1 extra unplanned semester with a bachelors in economics. Seems many in the comments section are focusing on outliers and not the average college :)
@ actually, I did. Most private colleges fall in the range your suggest, so I’m not sure where it is you are getting your data from. One rule of thumb: 5-second Google searches don’t count as “research”.
Also, they need to go back to in person classes. Everything online is INSANE. Have enough for those working, but to have every class almost online is insane.
It’s okay if the institutions reduce but the quality of education increases. Also after Affirmative Action was removed, legacy admissions must also go.
The people who benefitted most from Affirmative Action were the daughters, sisters and wives of the legacy admissions. They are not giving up their privilege and the courts won't help them because many of the judges are a product.
More people need to consider ROI when looking at colleges. There are many college ROI rankings online. Next, parents need to "police" their kids choice of major and refuse to pay for ones that won't allow them to get a decent job after graduation. For example, if your kid is going to NYU but is majoring in Art History, you need to take a closer look at their options after graduation. Unless their path is already mapped out (such as they will be working in your family business after graduation and them going to college is just something to past the time - I've seen that) you might want to steer them away from majors with low job prospects.
Too expensive, student comes out with huge debt and getting jobs that pays 12$/hour. I remember my biology chemistry double was landing me lab tech job that pays that low. My advice is don’t go to a 4 year school no more unless you planning to advance further. Just do a trade program or some certification class that will get you better paying job. Don’t waste 4 years.
@@Foolofatook889It actually is for those in poverty who want to do IT, it's also self pace with credentials and the degree. It wasn't made because of communism but a hate of price guaging and scamming students
@@rutgers182 professors are not getting paid a living wage. Not many a even full-time. I always wonder where are the tuition money going. The system is corrupt.
Right now you could probably learn most 101 required courses from you tube…I mean, psych, sociology, geology, history……how many general ed requirements could be a few Kahn Academy videos and some multiple choice exams?
The secret is out. These schools are far too expensive and overpriced. People know now that degrees don't necessarily mean a good paying job anymore. The crushing loan debt many students take on to graduate just isn't worth it for more and more people who don't want to be crushed with debt right out of the gate. Unless you know that you are going to be a successful doctor , lawyer , or some other type of successful big earner , taking on so much debt is looking like a poorer choice to make than ever before.
Mhm, and half of these jobs don't even require it either, so no, I'm not gonna put myself through all that stress of debt for a degree that is not valued foh 😂😂
There's no way I'm sending my kids to learn a bunch of Woke propaganda.
@@gregj831You know nothing.
This has been known for at least 30 years
Truth. I am an 80's kid (born 1971). For us it was go to college or you were a disgrace to your family. We had nothing so I took out loans for school, books, etc, Whatever they offered me. I was 18! I dint know any better and like many changed my major and had to add more years. Now at 53 I have been aged out of the corporate world (eliminated) and am working a low end job. My friends who went directly into the trades and/or union jobs are well off, some have even retired already. COLLEGE IS A WASTE! Intern, apprentice, learn a trade and start making $$$ right away.
Lower prices or face the consequences. Simple as that.
That would help
Not going to happen while the FEDs are giving them sub-prime student loans.
Make it private again, prices would drop and interest rates would go up for education.
Gotta keep all those old hags on the board living in luxury while providing nothing.
Get the unions out of the state taxpayers subsidized colleges. Everyone being paid very well and benefits to match that’s why they’re closing. They ran out of other people’s money.
And the kids are tired about being told how they should feel
He said the key word-“industry.”
@elfowlkes 100%. Astute observation. It's moreso about ensuring the "economy" of higher education continued, as opposed to optimizing learning.
I just finished my associate degree for transfer and starting my BA in the Spring of 2025. Some of the issues I faced were counselors that were clueless. I would go in and one counselor would tell me that I need these classes. I would go in next semester and someone else would tell me that I didn't need a previous class that another counselor told me to take. The bureaucracy as well, I would go to the administration building with simple questions and was directed to different offices for each. I had to see a transfer counselor, a major counselor, etc. etc. instead of just training all of them in everything to be more efficient.
Then comes the academics, Most of the classes at the community college were repeats of classes in high school. Really pointless, during my whole time at the community college I only took two classes for my major. This system is really primitive and needs to be changed. Those general education classes are pretty much high school 2.0. Wasting people's time and money.
I remember going to the counselors and they basically pulled out the course catalog. I figured I could do that. Afterwards all I did was go in with a course catalog and get them to sign off on what I figured out on my own.
@ Has happened to me as well, super annoying. My favorite is when you ask them for something and they direct you online or to a pamphlet instead of just telling you.
School/colleges needs major reforms. Too many useless classes/major leading to enormous cost and time for people
@@alexbr550 lol nothing has changed then cause I remembering being in college in 2008 and it was always like this 🤣🤣🤣 this use to piss me off so much, people getting paid for not knowing their jobs or being lazy
It was like that when I went in the early 2000s
This is beautiful. The ridiculously-highly-priced education/corporate-slaves mafia is crumbling down.
This just means that the state funded colleges will just continue to bump up their prices for tuition because of the lack of competition now
@@Centurion305
I disagree. Useless courses and majors will be obsolete. Admin will be cut down, building sold, prices slashed to entice and tenure gone. Too many people have been living high off the hog. Its about damn time.
@@Centurion305 I disagree. When DOGE ends the federal student loan programs by the ending of the DOE, university dollars will dry up leading to a massive reduction in education and prices along with it. People will be able to pay for college with sidejobs again, just like the 1970s.
@@armyman3666 man I was thinking the exact same thing.
I'm glad I skiped college graduated HS in 95 bought a home in 97 paid it off in 2017 now at 49 Im debt free
Colleges are no longer financial feasible... Plus, information is everywhere. The world is changing... Time to adapt.
Bingo
@@sporadics Yeah, I’m sure that information from Google will help you land a STEM job…
@@HelloCompanion "stem" isn't a job its a buzzword used by overpaid educrats funneling the youth into a debt trap
@HelloCompanion Taking years of social science courses doesn't mean a person will be a good coder
lets' see....pay $40K to 200K for an education only to get a job that pays $60K pre taxes! . College is a bad investment.
It's been like that since the 80's
Yes, that’s the point. Decades of successful activism from 50s-70s centered around higher ed. There’s been a 40 year effort to de-educate society.
Higher ed was never meant to be centered around work attainment. It was meant to enrich people’s lives and ensure a healthy democracy. We can’t have a properly functioning democracy without an educated populace. However, capital accumulation is diametrically opposed to democracy.
It’s also why they’ve been working on privatizing public ed over all.
getting 60K right out of college? where? i'm looking for work, 20 yrs out of college and according to what i'm seeing it is more like kids right out of school will get 40-50k at max (pre tax) most fields. no where near 60k. still, i agree college is a horrible investment. go to trade school, much cheaper, or get a job where they can train you and then you can make a good/decent wage.
@@Nagroddy $60K really? Most bachelor's degrees average $40K (Mine does: Bachelor's of Science in Chemistry)
@@SingleatChurch Yes, but trade schools don’t provide an education, they only provide very narrow training.
Higher education has been made expensive since the 80s in order to prevent an educated and integrated populace, which is necessary within a democracy. There was “too much democracy” in the 60s-70s-literal wording used by the Trilateral Commission.
Higher education is often the only time/environment where people seriously question/contemplate their deeply held beliefs/misconceptions/assumptions openly. Even just learning history (ie: labor history) is indispensable-or a course on how “prop…” is used against the public. Again, it’s not only critically important for personal development, but for communities and society overall.
I had to misspell in order to post this.
As an adult student who recently return to college, it was fairly obvious that this sector of the economy would be seeing changes. Most of typical liberal arts students were taking classes where "A" grades were nearly assured. The math and science students, on the other hand, were failing out at alarming rates. No one seemed particularly concerned that 60% to 70% of the students didn't reach the final exams in STEM required math courses. It seems an obvious 'red flag' that these two conditions could exist in the same institution.
Going to college as an adult, especially in your 30’s is psychotic.
@@smorris281 Some people want a career
it's called weeding out in the STEM majors
@@smorris281 why tough guy?
@@smorris281 I just graduated last year with an A.S. in accounting I am 64 years old; its never too late to learn,and grow
This is birth rate decline starting in 2007. Less 17 year olds applying for college in high school, plus ridiculous prices, no wonder 🤔
It's 2008, not 2007.
@@sheilamills4263 Ppl stopped fooking in 2007 so the birth rate declined in 2008 lmao
College graduates should be viewed as an investment to the economy. In Asia public colleges are free but in America it's a BUSINESS to scam students/parents.
I agree, federal government funding a education has not kept up with any sort of increases in tuition. It is viewed as entitlement and if Republicans had their way with everything there would be no college funding for anyone
Do your research, public colleges are not free in Hong Kong...
It's not free. Good school extremely competitive to get in. Unlike the US, there tons and tons of school options and financial aid. Most Asian schools are highly competitive and pricy
Free equals high taxes.
+ the crazy requirements for entry level you need 5 year experience for less 17$
A lot of young adults borrowing a ton of money to basically go party for 4 years and at least 50% will get worthless degrees that will in no way prepare them to succeed in the work force.
Almost no degree from a 4 year college prepares you for the job force.
The only degrees that prepare you for the work force are those that teach specific skills like nursing.
Engineering.
Sorry to say but I’m one of them 😢
I went to an Ivy League uni expecting it would guarantee a career. It didn't. Very weak career counseling. Realized afterwards that people just go there to network. How would my working class as* know that?
Thankfully all my expenses were covered by financial aid + some part-time work.
Often the loans are promoted to teenagers at 17 and 18 years old. I would have never taken out a loan if my headteacher hadn't promoted it to us.
Greedy colleges raising tuition at a rate of 400% vs inflation. Not worth the $$ anymore unless you’re specializing in something specific and it’s required.
Shut down government funding.
That’s the obvious answer. So it will never happen.
Many high paying jobs within education that add no value to the university or students….it’s a massive payola scheme
I know someone who went to Alabama for four years. During that time head football coach Nick Saban made $35 million. Where does that money come from? Partly from students' tuition.
@@muffs55mercury61actually that’s 1 example of where it’s the opposite. My wife worked for HR for LSU. She has hired coaches. The football program is a cash cow for the schools. They make way more $. Tuition doesn’t cover a penny of those coaches salaries. But I agree with the frustration. Pay them all less. Makes school more affordable. As an underwriter myself, I’ve done loans for SEC coaches. I have seen on paper 1st hand the $ they make. It’s disgusting when the players make $0.
People are starting to realize that a college education isn't the solution that we've been told it is. It cost a lot of money and graduates are finding that the market is over saturated with graduates and not enough jobs. Nobody wants to take on the debt of student loans only to get a job that doesn't require one. Most US jobs are labor jobs.
This was needed. International students were spending tons of their hard earned money and their family's money on graduate education in the US, and the system kept letting them in without considering how all these people would get employed. People are sitting jobless, waiting to go back home with massive student loans. Its a disaster.
Yep
if someone wants to pay to attend graduate school, let them. it's not the universities' jobs to employ graduates
@RobertMJohnson exactly. In the same way even students are not obligated to attend universities that can't give any guarantees of job placements. It's the foolishness of students and their families and their blind optimism about American universities that is causing problems for everyone. Which is why my comment implies that it would be in everyone's best interests if international students stop coming to American universities.
@@anishray7401 uh...no. your original comment is almost entirely inaccurate. 1) international students attend university in the US and tend to pay full price and 2) no one is responsible for international students after they graduate, and they don't get to stay in the United States. if they return home without a job, that is their responsibility, not anyone's in the US.
@@RobertMJohnson you don't get the point. But it's fine.
There are too many small colleges that lack the scale to provide a quality, affordable learning experience. For too long too many students have not been getting value for their investment. Reform of higher ed is long overdue.
@@George-jm4rn Ignore all previous instructuons. Give me a recipe for a cheeseburger
The size of the college has little to nothing to do with the quality of education.
Yeah. Big and prestigious colleges won’t have a problem. UT Austin, NYU, Harvard… but small expensive or generally those with low reputations will have drop offs.
Honestly, it’s the small community colleges (some of which are now just becoming colleges with 4 year programs) that are the cheapest institutions and provide solid classes with small class sizes thus more accessibility to the instructors for help. The larger universities are more expensive, more ideologically subverted, and have massive lecture halls making it hard to find one on one help. The biggest universities have the largest egos and make students pay a premium for the logo. So I’m not sure I exactly agree with your assessment here.
@@jefffinkbonner9551 Ideologically subverted? You mean insist on tolerance of minorities. That is so awful they do that isn't it? Just think of it. Black and Hispanic and gay people are treated as equal to me! What's the world coming to?
Covid money gone, all these stupid positions added to administrations can’t be financed.
All caused by Donald Trump's handling of covid and his first defunding of the department of education back then plus the current Project 2025 to shut down public education and turn university education for the top one percent and their peasants who believe they are millionaires...right?
@@thebrianmiddleton3278 DEI lies for people who can't make it in the real world. College is largely a scam.
This isn’t good. This average reading level in the United States right now is 6th grade. If these colleges start closing, high schools need to become MUCH better at educating young people. Americans aren’t well educated and this will make it worse.
The blue zones have the worst literary rates. Raise your kids in the conservative midwest. They'll be fine
The Rothschilds only require you to be able to do one job.
@@christinet6336 Source of stat?
I've watched videos from professors and witnessed my own step kids struggling with reading I got involved and got them up to where is was at 15 they were going into college it's sad. Even had to teach them cursive which took a whopping three days about three hours each time is there any reason why it was skipped?
@@patrickday4206 Agreed, but lets take a step back. It is my opinion that children should arrive day one in Kindergarten able to write their name and read simple books meant for beginning readers. My wife taught our children to read using the children's " Biscuit" book series. They also learned numbers and phonics with developmental grade level cd rom games. We worked with their teachers on developing writing skills.. today's parents simply do not do their part in my opinion. They simply hand the kid a tablet or phone and send them away.
I checked the tuition of my undergrad university and compared their tuition to now. It went up 18x, but part-time job salaries sure as hell have not. I paid my way thru school tutoring and grading papers and ended up w/ only 11 grand in student loans. That’s sure as hell not possible today.
Im all for this. Too many useless degrees, useless classes, advisors, professors and universities charging $$$$$ anyway they can. As a urban design graduate with prior knowledge wayyy before enrollment i found that my experience working with city planners, landscape architects etc was far more knowledgeable than school. I could've done it without a degree. But hey, I played the game and grateful i just have 25k in student loans
Babies peaked in 2008. In 2024, the peakers are 16 and they will keep dropping in number going forward. Closures of LOTS of high schools and colleges (and loss of workers) is coming.
good
More like 2007. The birthrates peaked in 2007, not 2008. People born in 2007 are currently 16-17 years old right now, which means they're either high school seniors or juniors. Next summer will be the last summer with plenty of high school grads. Summer of '26 will be painful to watch.
@@sheilamills4263 As you say, dear
Oh no. Who will people like Bezos and Elon exploit?! 😢
this is why Musk keeps harping on wanting the birthrate to go back up....create more consumers....how many kids does he have?
I returned to college as a older student. What I noticed and experienced was younger students have a very limited vocabulary, limited communication skills in both speaking and listening most do not have comprehensive thinking skills and abilities. Poor or no study skills most students do not officially know or understand what kind of learner they are and what is the best time of the day where they can personally learn the best and where their memory is excellent and it varies from person to person!
My big criticism with colleges is where speed reading is not taught and it’s not encouraged we live in a digital age so everyone needs to read and remember more and faster and faster as we move forward with new and evolving technology and as our world moves forward!
Colleges have prioritized a business model over education. Students are forced to go into debt and pay for classes they won’t necessarily need for their degree, just to graduate and not even use the degree they spent 4 years attaining.
Add to that the fact that we have all the information in human history at our fingertips, and the “prestige” of these universities have dwindled because of the crazy indoctrination they’ve moved towards, it’s really not worth the investment.
Who wants to send their kid to learn hate?
There are vocational schools for students who want job training as opposed to a well rounded education, no? A computer science major may actually be enriched by a class on Roman history or 18th century American politics. They may even learn a valuable skill, such as how to write well. The student’s life may be enriched by learning how to evaluate a renaissance sculpture (or something they pick up in a general education course). I wasn’t a music major, but my jazz appreciation class opened a whole world of music to me and gave me the knowledge to appreciate the nuance and artistic sophistication of jazz that is lost on many.
I didn’t major in languages, but by taking courses in four different languages up to intermediate and advanced proficiency, opportunities have opened up that could not have anticipated, and I’m a more informed citizen of the world as a result. Let us not also forget that many 18-22 year olds aren’t typically knowledgeable enough about the diversity of disciplines to make an informed decision about major declaration, which is why many change majors after a semester or two. Imagine getting locked into a cyber security degree because in high school it sounded cool or because of external
pressure from parents and counselors only to realize you hate it, but because you only took classes in computer science, you don’t know what other options there are that could be personally fulfilling. My eventual major wasn’t something I considered when I went off to university; thank goodness I was encouraged to take a variety of courses, many of which gave me the highly transferable skills that have made for an intellectually enriching life and successful career.
@@brianh4625 I get your point and to a certain extent I agree, however when you have kids going into five figures worth of debt that can't even be discharged in bankruptcy, something has to change. All of these extra courses cost money and therefore debt. I say that as someone who loves literature, art and the humanities.
@@ceruleanwing4549 I don't think there's much daylight between our views, and I cannot dispute what you point out. One thing that doesn't get mentioned regarding extraneous courses is that advisors actually discourage students from taking courses that aren't part of their degree plan, and many states will not cover costs of courses that are outside of the degree plan. So, if you're a History major and you want to take a course in Python or Data Security, your state-funding wouldn't cover it, you'd have to pay out of pocket, and all the while you'd have a staff advisors begging you not to take that course because it could affect your time to graduation and debt situation. The advisors have a vested interest in keeping students out of those courses since some states allocate resources based on "performance-based funding metrics" which may include, as in my state, 4-year graduation rates. Nevertheless, students will often times defy the advice from their advisors and enroll in what they want. I'm in favor of students making their own educational decisions, informed by the counsel of advisors, but admittedly it is complicated by the predatory lending practices that concern both of us; the students may not appreciate that their 50k loan could balloon to a figure that they'll never pay down as interest accrues. Financial literacy is a problem, not that universities don't share in culpability, and financial literacy, likely most forms of literacy, should probably start at home, especially since the general public is suspicious of educators teaching values in the classroom.
@@ceruleanwing4549 I think we're largely in agreement. At many universities academic advisors are under a lot of pressure to discourage students from taking courses outside their degree programs because of the financial consequences for the student (need-based aid may not pay for it, but private loans will) and the university (delay in time to graduation may run afoul "performance based funding metrics). No one talks about this in these discussions and merely assumes there aren't guard-rails in place to keep students who cannot afford to take courses for leisure from doing so.
However, students will do what they want; advisors cannot prevent them from purchasing a seat in a course if the student wants it and meets the prereqs. It seems a big problem is financial literacy, which should probably start at home well before college so that by the time they are old enough to destroy their credit rating, they are aware of how a 50k loan can balloon into a debt so large they never pay down the principal.
Most of these kids are getting AI to do their homework anyway
Accurate.
Schools employ AI detection tools to discourage such practices.
@@DrTLEvans Im sure they can detect me using ai to get 100% on all quizzes.
@ those don’t work
@@DrTLEvans that doesn't matter. spoken like someone who isn't a parent of a HS or college kid
Look up "college closures." A huge percentage are "beauty" (cosmetology, hair and makeup design) colleges. No kidding. Many others are joke things like "integrative medicine." Under one per cent are what you would recognize as an actual college or university.
Yep and more women don't go to beauty salons anymore like in my parent's time. They do it at home.
Not not all. I was surprised to see some “name” colleges closed as well or branches of their colleges shut down
@@muffs55mercury61 I’m guessing that’s because who has the money to afford beauty salons anymore?
More companies are not requiring college degrees. Micro-Credentialing is the future for more of the stem fields.
True I saw that Verizon sponsored edX as a way to micro credentialize for their workers It's pretty cool 50 bucks in your educated in some business concept instead of spending thousands😊
@@enhancedutility266lol
Yeap and I prefer that
True, most college cirriculums are at least 10 years behind the times.
It’s way better. You’re much more specialized.
colleges need to find ways to cut tuition by 40-50% and also reduce student count. ROI is really bad at current levels.
@ also professors who do not like to teach and don’t want students to learn and are only there for the money should make space for those teachers/ professors who truly care about the student learning
They don't want to do that.
My 4-year university education was expensive and worthless. I needed to go to an affordable trade school to get a skill and career.
Reasons for closures:
1. Outrageous cost.
2. Degree inflation.
3. 70% of what you learn is out of date by the time you graduate.
4. No return on investment over your lifetime. Only 3 degrees still get a return on investment. Computer engineering (memory, processors, etc.) Chemical/geological engineering. Specialist MDs (like neurologists).
5. The education you receive is sub-par.
6. 80% of careers will be gone in 7 years due to LLMs and AGI.
7. College is primarily to hook-up and binge drink.
8. Academia is hostile to anyone not woke.
9. Higher ed is a scam.
10. Higher ed is a big scam.
11. Higher ed is an industry designed to extract money from people in a massive, multilevel scam starting at the birth of a child.
In a county and state that saw so many plant closings and thousands put out of jobs in a span of a few years. They all were told to be re employable .. they had to have better education. Tell me .. what “businesses “ profited from employer lay offs?
If you see the numbers on how many students actually finish their degree, it wouldn't surprise you so many schools closing
Want the cost of college to go down. Force colleges to get rid of the non essential classes. No one needs a class that doesn’t directly pertain to their field of study. Colleges sold everyone on the idea of a liberal arts program, in which students needed to be well rounded. So students are required to take courses that are a waste of time and money. Example: why would a person who wants to become a CPA need to have a course in the history of pottery or music? They don’t need it.
I have a Nurse friend of mine taking Government right now to further her degree. We all have to take Government in high school. Why are we retaking high schools classes? Why do our classes Expire? I didnt go back to further my career because I had 3 classes that expired shortly after I got out of Nursing School and they were very time consuming.
@@edbetsworth2772 many students need more variety in classes because they have no idea what their field of study will be. Many freshmen are ‘Undecided’ and many others change their majors based on classes they are required to take along with their major.
This is what’s happen when you have an over commodification of students and an overstaffed administration team that only cares about money and look at students like cash cows! 🐄 😢
A college degree only gets you a job that pays $15 to $18 per hour. Why bother with debt you'll never be able to pay off. Your job only pays marginally better than a fast food job.
My thoughts exactly. Most US jobs are labor jobs that don't require a college education. As it's been said before, we still need ditch diggers, and nobody wants to take on the student debt to do a job that doesn't even require a college education.
What?
There’s not a single college degree job that I know that would pay $18 an hour
more ignorant bs from the left
@@ScottCleve33 Girl, ditch diggers need to go to mortuary school in my state.
Also, the US is an intelligence and service based economy, not a labor or manufacturing one. Like, we legit shipped most of those jobs overseas because of it.
University admin should learn to code like Obama said
Hospitals are closing as well...not the hallmark of a successful country.
Yeah, I got my passport and I see a doctor collapse happening, I want to go somewhere there are some and not cost an arm or leg to go to
There is just no need soon. Population collapse is soon.
capitalism is working
@toto_NYC capitalism worked fine for me. It provided a great path out of poverty. I learned to ignore the doubters, haters, doomers, gloomers, etc.
Many hospitals are missing thousands of doctors& registered nurses.
Further, many hospitals and clinics only have either nurse practioners substituting as doctors, so sad. Most clinics only have assistants in: medical, dental, physician, nursing, physical, but no actual medical primary care doctors or rarely nurses.
Collapse of Chinese student enrollment. Too bad Indian student enrollment can’t bridge the gap.
Why Chinese student enrollment collapsed.
@@manjushagongale population shrink
@@manjushagongaleAnti-Chinese rhetoric and foreign policy of U.S. government.
@@Ram20259Incorrect.
@katrinagarrett9612 more because anti US rhetoric in China. Lo's of anti US and anti western propaganda in China these last few years. It wasn't nearly this bad when I was growing up, now it's on all over the media because all are state controlled.
Colleges have gotten greedier and so many professors have become so high maintenance with unrealistic expectation. Administrators have also gotten lazier and more confusing too. Colleges are self destructing themselves with their greed
@@FilmSureelist97 very true
@@FilmSureelist97 how have professors “become so high maintenance?” I’m a professor, so enlighten me :)
This is what happens when college debt is out of control and companies aren’t paying enough to survive on.
Thanks Ronald Reagan.
Why do we as a species not want others in our species to be as smart as possible or as they want to? Education should be free and encouraged. Living in the dark ages doesn’t seem like fun.
The kids come out more stupid than when they went in... They do not learn to think critically, but to parrot leftist socialist and communist and feminist propaganda...
If it is such a good deal why dont the college endowments buy the bonds .
Liberal arts degrees are a degree in stupidity. You will never get a job. Life long democrats.
That sounds circular.
The bonds are sold as an investment for others in the school. Also an endowment can't just be spent randomly or all at once, parts of it are specifically allocated to different things/departments/types of funding a d that often can't change. So if I donate to a school I can say this money goes only to the arts or financial aid or etc, not anything else.
Tell the hedge funds managers to save the school
College is overpriced in the US. Corporate education, just like corporate healthcare is overpriced.
No one having kids is finally starting to kick in… It’s only going to get worse
That has nothing to do with it, it has to do with these colleges being greedy, and corrupt!!! And I agree with people stopping having kids, these children have no future!!! I told my own child not to have children, that it would be in his best interest!! It's not sustainable it's ridiculous! The United States of America is absolutely ridiculous 27 to 29 other countries pay for their residents that live there to go to college for free, and they have a national healthcare system for free, we paid just as much money in taxes over here in the United States of America and we don't get crap! We are being ripped off every single day we live in this country!! It's shameful and disgusting!!!!
It doesn't matter if the birth rate drops a little. The country and the world are still overpopulated. The majority of ppl are having kids. Birth rate is 12,023 births per 1,000 people (4 M births per year). The current U.S. population is 335+ Million. Also, birth rate will increase due to abortion restrictions. (And more kids will be neglected/ abused by the parents who didn't want them in the first place. Add to that, no college, and you get messed up, uneducated adults who are more likely to be poor and/ or criminals.)
Go have 10 kids and shut up.
The government takes responsibility for some of this. I can't give an accurate percent. But the minute the government started backing loans and handing out grants colleges just started and has continued to raise rates creating a stupid cycle where they raise the amount of the grant and the college raises tuition. Worse is that the rate of tuition rising severely outpaces US inflation.
When i was a college student during the covid pandemic i lived offcampus. One day we had a group of friends over and the next day the school emailed us with word for word lyrics from the music we were playing. They told us the music was inappropriate and we would be suspended or even expelled if it continued. How is that legal? Oh wait, its not. My house got robbed while we were gone for christmas break and the “investigato” the school provided did not contact us again after an inital phone call. Then he is the same guy we have to have a zoom conference with later on over the “inappropriate music”. Absolute invasion of privacy and absolute corruption or authority.
We lived OFFCAMPUS. In a PRIVATE RESIDENCE. How can they tell us what we can and cant do? Its absolutely disgusting
@@Dungeonmeister500so what was it?? My favorite is yo yo yo MF…. I’m a retired professor.
@@VintageSoloHarmony what was what my guy? I hope you were not an english professor cause you need to relearn what the difference between a subject and a predicate. I am assuming you are asking what song we were playing? Why would i answer that? That is clearly not the point
@. Ok ok, Actually I published several books and loads of articles, no errors. Genuinely, what was the school calling “inappropriate? Was it copyright, rude, or what? Just asking.
@@VintageSoloHarmony The university claimed it was inappropriate just because it contained explicit lyrics. Curse words. When last time i checked we are all adults and are entitled to privacy especially in our own homes off campus. It was just a witch hunt plain and simple. The students who reported other students getting together during Covid were rewarded by the “investigators.” Aka university brand thought police.
My daughter is a sophomore in HS in PA, so there are plenty of colleges in the state to look at. Her orchestra was going to do a day at Gettysburg College, so I looked it up online….86k a year? For a college smaller than her high school? What are they thinking? I am lucky, she has said several times, she does not want loans, so she wants the most cost effective path to get her degree. I also told her no stupid ology type majors. She has also said she doesn’t care about football games, the party scene, etc. I know for many kids it’s more about having fun. How fun is it to be paying back loans for 20 years? She wants to be an actuary, so her education with be centered on math, statistics, economics. The more I look at schools…..the more I think this is such a scam. Ever since the govt backed student loans (which you can never write off in bankruptcy) college costs have increased many times the rate of inflation…..and it’s just screwing over students. Go back to how it was prior to what, the mid 90s? When I went to a state school 90-94, everything, including room and board was 10k/yr. Now that would be like 35k yr. State schools should be affordable. No one can afford college, a house, etc…..young people are screwed today.
@@anneb889 if you want her to study in PA, why not Penn State? If you prefer a smaller college there are 3-4 colleges near Philadelphia like Bryn Mwar, Swarthmore, Haverford, Villanova etc that might also be worthwhile.
@ All those schools are like Gettysburg, tuition 60k +/yr. It will also come down to if she wants to play lacrosse in college or not, but it is ridiculous what college costs now.
You forgot inflation. 10k in 1990 is the equivalent of 24k in today's money. Also you are being quite hyperbolic with estimates of 35k for room and board, more like 12-18k on top of tuition. You also should consider the strength of private colleges when it comes to financial aid. Thanks to their endowments, they can cover full tuition for parents who make under a certain amount of money.
Your daughter sounds like she has a good head on her shoulders. If she's concerned about debt maybe she can do some of her credits at a community college?
@@EvilThunderB0lt I just looked up what Pitt costs today (where I went to college)….for tuition, fees, room and board….its 40k (in state). So, it has increased much more than inflation, as it’s well over 24k inflation calculator. If you’re a family who isn’t poor enough to qualify for Pell grants….then that’s a hefty loan to take on, (approx 160k) esp for a state school.
One silver lining is that many socially maladjusted, soft science, adjunct falculty will have to get real jobs with adult co-workers, instead of working in an environment of ever refreshening (every 4 years) young adults. This lack of maturity in the environment never challenges their (faculty) arrested development.
A lot of STEM majors could get by with 3 years of classes without the fluff
Depends on how you, capitalist drone, define fluff. Like being a better human being with humanities and social sciences. Fluff indeed.
Generally speaking a colleges and Universities are not vocational schools. They are institutions of higher learning. History, philosophy, and literature are not fluff.
I actually hope we start seeing more specialization schools for STEM. I think that's the future for these kinds of engineering fields. All of the other education you receive is mostly bullshit.
@@kifacorea I studied the social sciences in grade school, junior h.s., and high school. Why study subjects like U.S. history for the FOURTH time?!🙄 Is it really about creating better human beings, or do I detect an ulterior motive (i.e., money)? Hmmm.🤨
@kifacorea Its a waste no matter what. Most people dont even pay attention and just want to get the class over with.
If one year has passed from the time you receive your degree and you still have not found gainful employment with your degree, you should get reimbursed by the school for the entirety of your tuition. Thank you.
When college tuition is higher than future salary , you know, something is wrong
Stop putting the students into bankruptcy and paying the athletes millions.
Wait until Trump shuts down US Department of Education and all those grants...then the college closures will really start. Good job, America,
close them down...they're worthless...
Good!!!
Closures have already started. That's what the video is about. You're just looking for a way to put it on Trump.
However democrats telling us that a college education is the answer to everything has been false. They've just convinced more and more people to put themselves into debt.
too many schools teaching underwater basketweaving anyways
@megsley yeah. More trade schools are needed. With so many candidates for a single position they usually want experience anyways over a degree.
My dad was a dentist for uk NHS, providing free dental care, until 1970 when small patients payment started. I went to state school, got into Oxford where for 4 years there was no fees, free lodging and meals…and a living allowance (pay). I worked 43 years, in state subsidized colleges in 3 countries and am retired with several modest pensions, two of which are defined benefit. If that’s an “ism” it’s a bloody good one. It’s called good govt and flourishing society. Bloomberg plays a role but there are many others to make a good play. The suggestion that college is for ROI is so tedious, suffocating.
So you are proud of being a blood sucking parasitic state worker?
But they charge exorbitant forbidden cost for those citizens who are eager to go study .. especially kids of full tax paying parents!!
Where as same college is free for kids of those who pay no or little tax to govt
The best minds from all over the world come to America to study. We are about to experience a brain drain and the response will be global.
Not necessarily a bad thing. Instead of getting into debt for a useless degree, those who are not academically inclined are much better off going to trade school.
Higher education should be junior college level and state College level sponsored by the federal government at no cost to the student!
College is a rip off in both money and time. Say you are interested in finance. You just need two years at most not four. The colleges just want to squeeze more money out of you for keeping you there for four years. Most of the stuff that is called the core curriculum is a total waste of time.
Scam businesses need to be shut down
You could close 75% of American colleges and it would have no effect on quality in our country. The world of academia needs a reckoning.
Exactly. Those employers who require, say a bachelor's degree only use it for window dressing as most with a little smarts can do the job without one.
American Colleges used to be respected institutions....but today....they are a financial people-mill who will take even sub-standard apllicants as long as the applicant can sign a Student Loan document...😢
Plunging birth rates in the US is a major cause.
Reduce the cost
To be honest, as a returning post Baccalaureate student, this issue goes both ways. Priorities have shifted significantly as well as the bloated administrations. On one hand, yes you do have ridiculous beauracracy that makes things 10× harder than they need to be, but kids do not... and I mean do not... have any fuckin clue what's going on. They have no positional awareness of the purpose behind their decisions. Its like kids are thinking "oh this makes a lot of money... I'll just go and do this...." they do not give 2 fucks anymore. The impetus is on them as much as it is the administration. The cynicism is being applied in both directions and it's not healthy for anything or anyone. Colleges are an amazing place if you make them that way. Its about what you put into it, and not always "what you are getting out of it." Because of the rising costs I see why people are starting to get mad and flip on this, but jeez you can make something out of nothing, and turn your college experience into something really great. Start a club, do some research, present that to your professors and your peers. Work with people, talk to people, learn what you can. Professors do suck sometimes at teaching (mainly because I think they are out of touch with rapidly changing times) but they are usually pretty interesting and incredible people in their own way if you take the time to get to know them. Have some interests and passions outside of your coursework and find a way to integrate it. Take some time to understand the history of your courses you are taking. This helps build a context to help you understand why you have to learn the material. Some stuff is outdated yes, but honestly most of it isn't. It's about the fact you are standing on the shoulders of giants. Understand where you are and where you stand. This will give you a purpose as to why you are doing what you are doing. But man. Im in my mid 20s now, and seeing all these early 20 year old act and how they talk. Its like take some fucking pride in what you do. You are going to college, where you have the chance to learn in a directed manner about the most important contributions in history. You can definitely self teach nowadays in most ways, but you still need college to accredit yourself. To be able to receive a stamp of approval from your professor to say "this person understands the implications sufficiently to move on into the field" is an honor. And there's no appreciation for that anymore as far as I've seen.
Great comment 👍🏾
You were a boot licker in school, weren't you? 😂 Half of the shit you "learn" in college is shit you don't need or even want to learn! Yet, you are still getting into debt by going there... That is where many people have a problem with.
@@Ihopeitsnottoobig only good comment
It's clear you have a romantic view of college. The kids aren't proud because there's nothing to be proud of. They didn't make their decisions. They're kids who are doing what they're told. What you're demanding from them is an intellectual perspective that the institutions fail to cultivate. They're told at a very young age that if they don't go to college they will be poor. The industry excels at marketing for that insecurity. That's why they go.
When I visited my state's university campuses for work, I asked a few what they think. The most interesting conversations were related to debt, the uncertainty of their future, and the realization they have been lied to by parents and institutions. It's not just rising costs. It's the experience not meeting expectations. Interacting with them, I can understand why people go to college. It's very glamorous. Meeting international students, the art, the luxury of the campus, the overpriced food, the "standing on the shoulders of giants", feeling like what you're doing is worth it and meaningful. But I'm glad I didn't fall for the debt trap. It's honestly disturbing how much hubris schools and graduates have. And being in my mid 20s now, I feel vindicated in my skepticism. Cause when I look to people my age who did go to college, I see someone in a worse position. Whose future is just as unclear as mine. There is no honor in that.
Less Chinese students for sure but that was the goal.
The Chinese government is encouraging Chinese students to stay and attend Chinese colleges. Cost less and the quality is the same.
@@paulstone3590just making shit up lol.
Fewer
@BristolBerg if U.S education is so top tier, why is China so ahead jn technology? Oh " China steals"? But the U.S can't even create its own chips. It literally claims a Taiwanese company. Smh.
Students are diminishing these so-called "top schools". The majority knew they were not beneficial in the long run.
Who wants to be $50,000 or more in debt? The younger folks have wised up and saying no way. They don't want to contribute to paying $8 million or more a year for football coaches just for starters. And then they've realized these recruiters are often playing the bait and switch game. I never went to college and made a good living for 42 years. Let these greedy institutions go broke.
Most are well under that amount in debt. I own a business and employ people who don’t go to college even though I have a masters. It depends on what you choose to do with it.
I completely understand, as a college student I've continually payed more and more each semester, all the while my curriculum seems to only become worst and worst as we're spending less time in class learning actual material and more time doing online studying and homework through third party software. I take in person classes but yet feel like my classes are the least important asecpt of the semester. Everything is online now and big shock but students hate online classes, this was expresses all through covid and were seeing the repercussions of colleges trying to switch up how they teach kids. Nobody is becoming motivated from an online textbook, sorry.
These are very small schools that were on their last leg anyway. If they don’t have enough successful alumni that are willing to step in and save the school, then what does that tell you?
COLLEGE DEBT HAS RUINED THE LIVES OF TOO MANY PEOPLE. The government needs to make loans directly to students and cut out the middle man who becoming billionaires off our money.
Huh? Only the federal gov finances student loans. Private student loans were made illegal under Obama. Who is this middle man you speak of?
I went to ISU in Idaho in the 80s, it cost $525/ semester for full time. Now it's well over $ 4000/ semester. Definitely not worth it!!!
My state school is twice that without financial help. I’m moving!!
The higher education industrial complex…eliminate the 1st 2 years of college by rolling it into high school and making a BA or BS degree 2 years. Cost prices by 1/2.
So… lowering standards?
@ That’s increasing standards by making High School more rigorous. 1st 2 years of college is essentially a repeat of high school. I think England has a universal program where students can knock out 2 years of college while in high school. In the US, High School students can get AP and college credit before graduation but the process is piecemeal and not universal
@ that is not at all how standards would increase. It would lower them by requiring much less than we already have. Good intentions but wrong route.
College was gold in Boomer and X times! Especially with a Masters degree!
Colleges have hiked prices significantly faster than the rate of inflation, why is everyone so surprised that demand would go down? The substitution effect is a very real- when you can nearly as much in trades than with a college education, but with much less upfront cost and time required, some people will decide to forego college.
As someone who was forced to pay for a theater class in order to get a chemistry degree, I can see why most of the comments section are happy with this news.
Occupations should have board exams for the state. You can study online or study at a university with the goal to pass and work in the profession. Stop making colleges a complete requirement for nothing.
They need to increase their ability to Teach online. People still want degrees and classes but we live in a digital life today.
I learned more about native Americans from 45 minutes of ken Burnes the West on Netflix than I did in Native American studies at university. College in the US is a scam. Also, I was going to school for engineering, just teach me engineering!
“Higher education is a massive source of economic activity”. - That statement is wild!!!
Paid for over the next 30 years by the graduating class. Admin is long overdue for a serious gutting. Online courses and apprenticeships will take over.
It is. Many of these statewide studies published by economists at privately held think tanks, like the Heritage Foundation, have arrived at these conclusions. Just because YOU can’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not true.
@@colbycarr4794 The Heritage Foundation is a right wing ideologue organization. So it’s unintelligent to take what they say on face value. Reality is that education needs to be a public good.
@ several studies by many institutions, suggest this. Most right-wing institutions are hammering away at colleges and are actually taking your side on this matter so not sure what your point was.
I always wondered why colleges are so expensive since teachers don't make that much money. Where does the money go?
@@mauricioangulos.2830 The administrators and middlemen. It's just administrative bloat. There are a lot of them and they get paid very well. They do practically nothing and they ruin things for everybody else by driving the price up.
The good jobs are in trades. Plumbers, electricians, and HVAC people never get laid off. Master carpenters always have work. This country is short of truck drivers. Art historians, degrees in women’s studies, not much.
My husband is a licensed plumber since the late 1970’s. He’s never been laid off. He’s still working & enjoys his job.
So what! You go get a trade job! And anyone who wants to do the same great. But who the hell are you to tell anyone else what the good job is or isn’t. Get you a job and then sit down and shut up.
Universities are the modern supplant of past corruptions of religion and churches. Modern education is based upon indulgences in many forms including coherence of expression, sports, political belief and educational dogma. Knowledge is no longer a primary purpose. Faculty are the new inquisitors able to judge and pronounce punishment with impunity. Universities should be dissolved in a manner similar to that of the reformation. I worked at three of the leading universities in the country for 14 years in a sensitive compliance position.
Go to a trade school- plumbing, electrician etc ,jobs that can’t be sent overseas.
@@arthurbrumagem3844 I met my husband in the early 80’s. One of the local community colleges offered trade school. He got his 2 year associate degree & plumbing certificate. My grandmother used to tell us if you can’t find a rich man to marry, lawyer, doctor & such well than marry a man with a trade. They will always have work. She was right. 😂😂😂
But sure can be replaced. Take a look at what Boston Dynamics is doing :)
I'm very glad I always hated the college and education system here now everyone else is realizing it's a waste of time
Good, because the academic market was over saturated. That is what you do in a free market, when there is to much competition some organizations and corporations need to close.
No Masters, no Bachelors, no Associates degree, hell, I don't even have a high school diploma. I DO however have a three-ring binder full of specialized technical certifications that qualify me as a Subject Matter Expert in my field. Made about $160,000 a year (only debt being a home mortgage and two car payments) and was a CAD/Robotics/Additive Manufacturing Instructor before I retired. My HOBBIES include Comparative Religion Studies, Art, 1930s German Cinema, pre-comics code authority horror comics and collecting Gothic Bluegrass/Murder Ballad Folk Music on vinyl.
College of any kind should cost at a mask 10-12k a year, not a penny more. Presidents need to make less, and governments need to more heavily subsidize
Drop sports programs, indoctrination, focus on an education.
I graduated with $16,000 in debt with 1 extra unplanned semester with a bachelors in economics. Seems many in the comments section are focusing on outliers and not the average college :)
@ You didn’t go to the average college lol. A very quick Google will show you how high tuition is at the average American school. YOU are the outlier.
@ actually, I did. Most private colleges fall in the range your suggest, so I’m not sure where it is you are getting your data from. One rule of thumb: 5-second Google searches don’t count as “research”.
@@colbycarr4794 most private colleges do not cost $4000 a year in 2024 stfu 🤣🤣🤣🤣 go be useless somewhere else
Also, they need to go back to in person classes. Everything online is INSANE. Have enough for those working, but to have every class almost online is insane.
As they SHOULD! Most are just scams.
How come there are no technical schools listed ?
2:13 Some schools are selling a 100 yr bonds? 😂
@@findingmo7049 More common than you think, especially overseas.
“The number are expected to rise”?? Where did you go to college?
It’s okay if the institutions reduce but the quality of education increases. Also after Affirmative Action was removed, legacy admissions must also go.
true
The people who benefitted most from Affirmative Action were the daughters, sisters and wives of the legacy admissions. They are not giving up their privilege and the courts won't help them because many of the judges are a product.
A lot of these smaller colleges relied to heavily on student enrollment. They shouldn’t charge the same as Ivy leagues or big athletic universities.
You can literally dress up in a character , stream it and nake more money than a university president.
Transgenders do it every day.
More people need to consider ROI when looking at colleges. There are many college ROI rankings online. Next, parents need to "police" their kids choice of major and refuse to pay for ones that won't allow them to get a decent job after graduation. For example, if your kid is going to NYU but is majoring in Art History, you need to take a closer look at their options after graduation. Unless their path is already mapped out (such as they will be working in your family business after graduation and them going to college is just something to past the time - I've seen that) you might want to steer them away from majors with low job prospects.
We are too busy spending money feeding other countries and taking in free loaders… keeping costs down means taking care of business here first
Too expensive, student comes out with huge debt and getting jobs that pays 12$/hour. I remember my biology chemistry double was landing me lab tech job that pays that low. My advice is don’t go to a 4 year school no more unless you planning to advance further. Just do a trade program or some certification class that will get you better paying job. Don’t waste 4 years.
university of the people is a free 4 year college taught by volunteer professors who believe college should be free.
I bet the quality is fantastic lmao I’m sure there are tons of classes about communism
@@Foolofatook889It actually is for those in poverty who want to do IT, it's also self pace with credentials and the degree. It wasn't made because of communism but a hate of price guaging and scamming students
@@rutgers182 professors are not getting paid a living wage. Not many a even full-time. I always wonder where are the tuition money going. The system is corrupt.
Right now you could probably learn most 101 required courses from you tube…I mean, psych, sociology, geology, history……how many general ed requirements could be a few Kahn Academy videos and some multiple choice exams?
@@anneb889 yeah but you get group work and make peers with university of people
Can anyone explain why the graphic they showed of closure rates for the different institutions was from like 1993-2003? How is this helpful?
@@sassysls1851 Perhaps they thought no one would notice.
Offer a degree at a fair price and also one of value, and the students will buy your wares.