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Bikepacking in Algeria: Surviving Food Poisoning
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
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In the sixth episode of my journey through Algeria, part of my endless journey cycling around the world, I leave the hotel in Bou Saada and take back roads to avoid being tailed by the police. The day is mostly uneventful until I start feeling unwell while searching for a place to camp. Despite a troubled night and a visit from wild boars, I push through the day with food poisoning, surviving on Loubia bean soup. Amazingly, I manage to ride over 100 km and find a stealth camping spot in an abandoned house near a big city. Join me as I navigate the challenges of food poisoning and the unpredictability of bikepacking in Algeria.
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nobody will call the police here on you 👍
and nope!
you are not in jail if the ferry has a delay over your visa 👍
you still don't know algerian hospitality bruh
what's going on 😂😂 🤌🤌🤌
@bloimlala42 Lol nobody ratted me out in this section 😅 And about the visa better not to have any surprise 👊😎
@@DavideTravelli true
I’m an Algerian women and a Muslim
Yes women go the mosque 🕌 they usually go a little bit earlier than men ( well my family members do that ) but I personally don’t go to the mosque I like praying at home , for women it’s a choice you can go or you can stay at home or do something else , but for men it’s almost obligatory (you can skip if you have something urgent ) , also for women it depends on the area some areas are more conservative than others so women won’t go to mosques but others do (like al arkam mosque in chevalley or the great mosque in the capital )
Usually the more you go to the south of Algeria the more people are conservative, also it’s getting really hot lately you should be carful from heatwaves , we Algerians are used to it 😊 but many Europeans don’t and some faint
Thank you!
it's not obligatory for women to pray in the mosque on friday, but they can go if they want.
in a conservative city, only old ladies go out to go to the mosque, young women pray at home.
@@forizmهذا كان زمان. الآن اصبحنا نعرف ديننا جيدا و الصلاة للجميع في المسجد و لمن اراد طبعا من النساء
I'm Algerian and you are right to show the thrash.
It's by shaming that things will change for the better.
Enjoy your trip, you are the only one not following traditional tourist destinations but diving deep into the country. That's a good change. That's what I like about exploring a country.
Thank you, some Algerians are upset about my videos but I simply document my journey for the people that like my way of travelling. If someone doesnt like the way I travel shouldnt watch my videos.
I like to cycle around on smaller and rural roads and experience the country outside the classic touristy places. I find these places more genuine and shows me the true soul of the country.
I don't agree, not everyone throw trash, some people do throw it in regular basis, some need to be awakened to stop throwing some need to be ashamed and others will not stop until they pay a fee for throwing.
we have trash problem in Algeria, it is annoying that people don't care about nature....thank you for showing it!
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I am algerian . I love ur videos as nd never never upset of all ur content. The only thing is that talking about the police checking at u . Its because almost all countries around alg . Western sahara. Niger. Mali. Lybia ar in mess. Political and military instability. So having algeria asa very peaceful safe and friendly country was done by the people and its police
One of the best things I like about you is that you are adventurous ❤❤❤
Thank you!
@@DavideTravelli you too
28 $ for a room in such a nice hotel is a bargain.
It's all depends on someone's budget. For some people even 1,000$ per night is nothing.
@@DavideTravelli that is true, everything in life is relative.
Do not go to hotels, brother. Go to gas stations. There are prayer halls and communications antennas. Where do you find these supports? You can stay in them. If you do not find them, camp near a military barracks. Good luck.❤🎉
Yeah those are options although I prefer to camp in nature
literally one of the most raw content ever.
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Your adventures are always wonderful, keep it up ❤
Thank you, I'm glad you like to follow along.
Thank you a lot for all your videos ! We're very happy to have you here in Algeria across our beautiful roads unfortunately sometimes full of trash. I hope viewers will understand that it isn't against them that you're underlining this messy illness that we're suffering from. I hope you're spending a great ride because you've really given me the will to try the experience myself on bike. Thanks again !
Thank you, you should defo experience your own country on a bike. It's the best way to discover and adventure! 👊
2:37 في الشريعه الاسلاميه صلاه الجمعه واجبه على الرجال وليست واجبه على النساء المراه لا يجب عليها ان تصلي صلاه الجمعه في المسجد تصلي في بيتها ولهذا هناك عدد قليل من النساء يخرجن الى اداء صلاه الجمعه يجب ان تفهم القضيه جيدا
روح تعلم على دينك الصلاة وحيدة التي اوصى بها الرسول للمراة هيا صلاة العيد وابحث
Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦
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Wow ,you are a hero ,you have this energy to do all this alone , be safe
Cheers!👊
Salam aleykoum j'espère que vous allez mieux mais c'est vrai qu'il faut faire attention à ce qu'on mange merci beaucoup pour la très belle vidéo et c'est vrai que ça me fait mal au cœur de voir tous ces plastiques au bord de la route merci beaucoup! Pour votre courage 🙏🙏🙏🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿♥️♥️♥️🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
Merci 🙏😊
you just passed by our farms in bousaada, the food is actually very good there and there's a place called moulin ferrero that you absolutely had to pass by if i was in algeria i would invite you to try our produce from milk and cheese
2:40 Friday prayer is not obligatory for women, but rather it is obligatory for men. Women go to the mosque early to avoid mingling on the way, and they have their own designated part in the mosque. As for Friday, most Muslim women stay in their homes to prepare the dinner.
صار عندك فوبيا« بوليس👮♂️» نفس حالتي عندما كنت أقود السيارة بدون رخصة خارج المدينة 😂😂
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Everything is a mystery until you educate yourself about it. For women it is not obligatory to go to Masjid (mosque) to offer Salat (prayers) as it is for the men. Women pray at home itself. For men it is mandatory to offer slat in the Masjid in congregation.
Très courageux de faire ce que vous faites. Bravo
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@@DavideTravelli are you still in Algeria bro ?
Unfortunately I left already!
@@DavideTravelli ok, have a nice trip, and i Hope see you soon in Algeria, why not .
My brother, I advise you to go to these states, such as Bejaia or Oran, Algiers, Tlemcen. You will never get tired of them. You will enjoy the hospitality from the people and the beauty of the city. Everything is there and have a happy trip, God willing.
That was an interesting and another beautiful adventure, hope you keep up the health indeed. Eggs indeed I have the same problems with specially when I combine them on the same day with meats. And yeah I always try to get them totally boiled of fried indeed. I get the same after effects you described, so probably combination, sour acidic stomach. What does help, when you have that, to eat mint, so like peppermint. Peppermint reduces the stomach sour and than you at least feel better less inflamed etc. I combine that with 1-2 paracetamols, and mostly next day I feel a lot better. Keep on rocking! :D Good luck, you can do this!
Cheers!
Moi, je conseille dans ces cas de boire de l'eau de riz bien cuit et aussi de carotte à volonté avec de l'ercefuril et d'arrêter toute autre nourriture 24 h.
@@iyasfar5386 Correct, that is a great medical advise as well!
Go to Bejaia, Jijel, the capital, Blida and Constantine. There are very wonderful places there❤
I do professional photography and I can tell you Davide your postcards at the end of each video are insane, amazing BELLISIMI LOL
Thank you, you're too kind. It's the camera, I just point here and there.
Thank you for sharing your great experience, I' m now one of your subscribers
Thank you for following along my path 😊🙏
There are many unpaved roads linking you to small countrysides and small cities. You need a local person to link u in
There was no dirt roads there connecting to anything. I have full maps.
alsalam ealaykum.
I had fun with you, especially from the northern side, where you can walk in the center of the country. We discovered beautiful places with you that we did not know. I hope you enjoy the rest of your tours, and I hope you like Algeria. Thank you for the adventure in my country.
Ealaykum Alsalam! I loved my time in Algeria, I wish I had a longer visa but I could stay only 3 weeks and I was able to see only a little part of the country.
Perhaps you will want to return in the future. I welcome you to Algeria. I know that the visa is difficult in Algeria. Personally, if I could support the channel financially, it would be my pleasure. Thank you very much davide.
Too kind, perhaps there will be another opportunity to visit Algeria, inshallah.
Shit man, I hope you're feeling better. Power through it, you have already traversed half the country, you can do it.
Wait apparntly you have finished the journey already, mad kudos mate
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❤❤❤🎉🎉 welcome to Algeria
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Love last picture in your video, important things is the nice sevenir
Yes, thank you. Should use that picture as thumbnail of this video instead?
tizi ouzou is the best nature in algeria
I hope you delve deeper into our deserts and you will find what you want. Good luck and welcome to my country
Thank you! Sadly Bou Saada was the south most point of my journey in Algeria.
Get well soon brother
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Great adventure.
Cheers! 👊
Welcom to wahrane algerie
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P. S that loubya meal is 10 times of Hiroshima that you eaten before 😂😂
Lol Loubia is good for me!
Nice trip bro🙌
Cheers!
It's messy all around, close to the towns. That's a pity. I can never understand people like that. Plastic is not biodegradable. 🤬
We should blame the oil industry.
Hope you are ok my friend
From morocco 🇲🇦❤🇮🇹
I'm well thank you. I hope no fighting between Moroccans and Algerians in the comments. Both countries welcomed me with utmost hospitality and kindness 😊🙏
@@DavideTravelli hhhhhhh hope that my friend even if thiere's a lots of shit going on on the internet Algerians and moroccans are one and we are brothers and iam happy to see you being treated will by ours brothers thiere 🇲🇦🇵🇸🇮🇹 🇩🇿
Thanks Davide again for this awesome video, I myself do biking videos but never had the courage to go to Bou saada because of how hot it is so all my respect to you sir, i tried to do the same as you to go to France to the south and do a small tour from the spanish border to the italien one going through Montpelier and Marseille but guess what, the French consulate in Oran refused my request and they told me that i might stay there illegaly beyond my stay, i had to tell them that i wont ever do a french request in my entire life even if i would live a nother one ( i believe in reincarnation ) anyways Grazie Gracias for the beautiful views of my country, PEACE
so my second plan was to make a request for Spain for two weeks but guess what no apointments are available even for september so i guess it's going to be impossible to do videos elsewhere, ( an advice i give myself when i go to a nother city specially during summer avoid meat, and eggs and i only eat cold ! like cold stuff ! because of the weather and how things are sometimes badly kept cool ) have a nice recover Davide !
I am very sorry to hear that your visa was denied, you can try with other european countries once you have a european visa it's valid for all the european countries although it's very difficult to get one for Algerians.
It's very sad that some people have the privileged to travel the the world like myself and some others born in a different country cannot. I have no done anything to earn this privilege, I was simply born into it. That is very unfair, unfortunately greed and power and religion and politics put borders in place that the nature didnt have. I wish we could all live in peace and be free to travel where we want but sadly the reality is very different.
I do encourage you to travel within your own country, my visa was only 3 weeks but I would love to stay 3 to 6 months to travel around Algeria because it's a beautiful country and the people are lovely. There is so much to explore in Algeria and dont be discouraged but the temperatured just carry enough water and food and if you stay on paved roads you can always flag down cars and ask them for some water. That what I used to do when I crossed some African deserts like Namibia or Sudan or Egypt. Safe rides!
@@DavideTravelli you are amazing Davide ! thanks for taking the time to answer, indeed it's a bit sad that they consider every young Algerian as a potential future illegal migrant in France, i love visiting cities in Algeria in the North West and i'm so glad to see through your videos that you also enjoyed the landscapes ( besides the plastic bags everywhere ) Algeria is a beauty, but i just wanted to add spices to my channel like when you add spices to the delicious loubia (Beanz), to visit europe because i have lived in Austria and was married there for years ( 2014-2018 ) and didn't have time to do any exploring at that time i was working almost 6 days a week, so no time for biking, i just wanted to still do it starting from France, i have heared that Tourism Agencies here in Oran sells Spain visa appointements lol so i'm willing to get in touch with one it will cost me a bit more ( in total with the visa and insurance around 200 euro ) but hey its worth it if it works, and they wont reject it like the France consulate did ! i know it's schengen visa so allowed to travel all over europe ! anyways i always carry enough water with me but i sweat from my back so i should add a rack and leave my backpack at home ! thanks anyways for the answer and the great videos you are awesome man, take care and i hope you are feeling already well and recovered from that intoxication ! PEACE
@@DavideTravelli you are a source of inspiration man seeing you roling on that MTB and in my country !! over all this distances gave me more confidence,so i told myself that i can do it too lol and i did Sidi Bel Abbés Oran through the high way not very safe with how crazy some people drives too close to you without carring about your safety ( it's a downhill mainly ) it was easier than doing the opposit but i wont do it again on that road ! still thanks man for the great videos hoping to see you again and more people like you doing biking here! even if it's a bit complicated !
Yeah visas can be very expensive and if you are rejected you lose your money, it's a terrible system. Definitely riding your bike with a backpack is bad idea, it's extremely uncomfortable. I would recommend going to a place where they do welding in your town and get a rack built for your bike or just buy one already made from a bike shop.
I'm getting ready for my adventure in czech republic, can you recall how much did you spend while being there? If not do you remember if it was more like cheap or expensive country? I'm thinking what budget should i set for the day, just for food
Thanks in advance
Great video btw, nice sights, although it looks hot
Exciting! The country is much cheaper than other European countries especially Germany one of its neighbours. I was lucky to have a Warmshower host my first night and friends in Prague. Safe rides!
من فضلكم يا شعبي الجزائري. زائرنا مريض. إذا كان شخص ما يعيش بالقرب من موقعه، اذهب لمقابلته وادعوه للراحة. الرجل المسكين، ليس في حالة جيدة. حصل على المرضى. هو وحده في بلد آخر. أشكركم إخوتي على فتح بابكم والاهتمام بضيفنا.
Thank you but it's not necessary, that was a while back as it takes much time to edit the videos. There are the dates at the beginning of each day in the videos. I completed my journey in Algeria on May 5th. Thank your concern very appreciated.
As you go south, the temperature will increase until it reaches 50 in the shade 🏜
Mostaganem 🇩🇿 🇩🇿 Mostaganem
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Hello Davide, it's brave to sleep under the stars in a lost place... I think your diarrhea is due the 'Lben' beverage .. have a good stay.
Hello! I didn't have Leben that day, I think it was the eggs in the morning.
ذهاب النساء الى المسجد اختياري اغلبهن مشغولات في المنزل بالطبخ والغسيل ورعاية الاطفال
any updates on police situation, how did that go
I think if I had continued south then the journey would have been restricted by the police therefore I headed north west from Bou Saadam, I wasnt tailed any more.
Some information; Friday and funeral prayers are only obligatory for men. Women can go to the mosque for the daily prayers and pray in the sections reserved for women. There is no problem with that. Also, women can go to the mosque outside of the daily prayers. There is no problem with that.. Please share correct information...
C est une honte de voir tous ces déchets au bord des routes, il y a de gros efforts à faire pour développer le tourisme, et arrêter de pister les voyageurs par la gendarmerie ,c est une privation de liberté intolérable
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I wished uhad a time to visit bejaia city and its Mountains ⛰
Another time perhaps!
I can guarantee you that if it would have been salmonella you would have ended up in the hospital. To my knowledge, there has never been a case of salmonella in Algeria in 10 years. You probably caught a little virus because of the hot and cold climate. or something poorly digested. Sometimes when travelers change their diet, it takes a few days for the body to adapt and you can get sick. It happened to me in Europe, in Paris I got sick after a few days but 2 days later I was better. The only thing I avoid drinking when I travel is drinking tap water. That's probably why I got sick in Paris.
Salmonella is very common with eggs all over the world. Most times the manifestation is mild like in this case. Could have been something else too but it was definitely food poisoning. I know my body.
Man before ordering, you have the right to ask not to have too many spices. You are a customer and they are understanding. Just ask politely and that's it. My client is king.
To be honest I thought the loubya come as it is and they cannot remove the spices only for me.
attention 😂 l'inspecteur tahar et son apprenti sont dans les environs de bousaâda en train de te pousuivre suite à l'information donnée par les responsables de l'hôtel où tu as séjourné 😂
Why did the police prevent you from going to those mountains?
I don’t know if you really like LOUBIA or that’s only menu you find 😃
I love it but it's also very very cheap.
Ciao Davide , non sono un esperto ma credo che mangiare fagioli avendo disturbi gastro-intestinali - quali che ne siano le cause - non sia proprio il massimo per allievare i sintomi…
Quando non hai appetito mandi giu' quello che riesci. Tutto il resto mi dava nausea, la zuppa di fagioli invece riuscivo a mangiarla.
Always a pill box of Imodium against food poisoning 😐
Imodioum is not a good idea unless you're travelling somewhere with limited access to toilets. You're body is trying to get rid of stuff that makes you sick, imodium is basically a cap on your arse that actually keeps of that stuff inside you, it slows down you getting well actually.
@@DavideTravelli it's true
Bad eggs can make you sick, man. I'm sorry you had such a bad experience.
Good experience otherwise hey. 🎖💚😎
It was not too bad two shitty days (pun intended) and then it was gone!
David its not safe to sleep outside alone in a desert/ forest of Algeria alone. Jackals and wild dogs can attack you. They are so clever. When they notice u are alone they will atack. Sad to tel you last year an algerian child was alone in blida and eaten by a dog. Trust our people but never our wild animals❤
Thank you for your concern, don't worry I camped in worse place in grizzly bears regions and in other places in Africa with lions and elephants. The dogs should be scared of me! 😊
The remote trails in Lao where the same when you started to see trash then you knew there was civilization near .dam shame plastic is killing the planet
Terrible
Et pourtant sur le côté de la route il y a 2 plantes médicinales qui peuvent résoudre ton problème …
L'Armoise du désert et le thym soit en infusion soit en les avalant
To be honest I cycle around the world it's difficult to know plants of all the continents. I didnt study botany, I just know the plants and herbs of the region I grew up.
القمامه في كل مكان في بلادنا توالف😅😢
في الجزائر العلاج مجاني اذهب لاي عيادة او مستشفى وتحصل على العلاج المناسب
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Même les poubelles sont gratuites , la preuve on les trouves partout sur les bords des routes .
العالم كله عنده علاج مجاني في المستشفيات العمومية
In this case , eat the rice it's better to get well faster .
2:50 Unlike men, women are not required to perform group prayers.
Women in Islam have a high status, unlike other religions
Undercooked eggs will do that to me every time, if they are runny then I won't eat them, glad to see you lost your tail, nice move there.
Yeah it was probably the egg, the grilled meat was well done. Yeah I started to go north west if I had continued south I think the police would have started tailing me again.
Les œufs !!!😫
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hi david i hope you enjoy your trip Friday prayer is not obligatory for women, but rather for men. Likewise, congregational prayer is not obligatory for women, but rather for men. The Sunnah of muhammed (peace be upon him)is for a woman to pray at home on Friday, and other than Friday prayer in her home is better for her. Now the case is no longer ambiguous
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😊Bon ça va, moi j'ai survécu à un complot de moutons et de chèvre algérienne qui a duré 2 années et demis
thank's sir , you show us how dirty is our Algeria .
Pourquoi vous etes traqué par la police?
You should watch previous episode
نعم تذهب النساء الى المساجد و لكن في المدن الكبيرة بشكل اكبر ادعوك يا صديقي لإكتشاف الاسلام عبر الاختلاط بالناس و مطالعة الكتب الخاصة بالاسلام و مجالسة من يتقنون الانجليزية و الايطالية حول الاسلام لعل ك تنال منه ما يخفى عنك😊😉
انت في مناطق الظل 😂 توقع اي شئ
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Run run before the end of el jumuah
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Mostaganem
Oran
Tlemsen
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Je pense que tu es espion laisse pas???
Oh really, I think you're an idiot. The sad thing is that I'm right.
To be atheist IS ont a blasphem, you have your religion (or not), and WE have our religion, that's what the coran teach us.
2:32 الكاميرا
Friday prayer is not obligatory for women. It is obligatory for men only, and women pray in their homes. That is why there are a small number of women who go to Friday prayer. Add to that that in Islamic law, a woman must remain in her home and not go out except for necessity or need and cover herself because if a woman I left the house and mixed with men, doing things forbidden by law and morals. I must maintain morals and preserve honor and honor.
28 $ is expansive for you? Beautiful hotel for only 28 $ wow guy it's not expansive
It all depends on how much money one's have. I have been cycling around the world since 2015. Can you work out how much money I would have spend if I had to pay 28€ for each and every night?
Why tf would someone go to bou saada I swear these tourists are insane .
Go to bejaia ، Annaba , Constantine , Oran , bel Abbes ،, setif , skikda
in a conservative city, only old ladies go out to go to the mosque, young women pray at home.
God thanks that you're save and that you are in good health .I think the meat and the chicken you have eaten at the gaz stion caused the desease bro .
Probably the egs at the hotel, who knows!
The mosque of the men is not of the women's
الزبل يرمي الزبل، الأرض والطبيعة لا تعني له شيء .
Volio andare sahara😅
Anch'io ma senza la poliza al seguito e😅
Ciao fratello, hope you're enjoying your trip, never mind the guys in drab uniform just play along you're the only exiting thing ever saw you're out of this world to them they seem bored stiff.we can hear the preacher doing his sermon the whole place must be a huge mosque. yeah, you Sir talking about the fairer sex! we have not spotted a single soul in your video I wonder where the diapers were for, they don't have too many OAPs to make use them. anyway, your command of English is excellent! the only person who put us all to shame is Michaela Massimi. take it easy bro and enjoy your escaped.
Thank you, I did enjoy my time in Algeria!
Are you sad in front of the man who offers you a simple drink? He gave you his respect and morals for you. I dare you to see a man offering you a drink. We are respectful people and we respect others.
What the fuck are you talking about? He offered me an energy drink and I accepted and drunk it even though I was feeling sick. I did not want to offend him refusing his gift. If you dont understand dont judge.
Sounds like you got your ass kicked with that poisoning
A shitty day and a bit and I was as good as new!
@@DavideTravelli the secret to not getting food poisoning is always drink alcohol with every meal . Alcohol sterilize every thing lol
Lol good luck finding a beer in Algeria country side!
@@DavideTravelli that’s why I skip those countries
Davide, brother, I'm really really really sorry and sad for you. In the name of our military gays, i tell you sorry. You know, we suffered a lot beaucause terrorists and in 2024, Algeria have a lot off enemies: America, israel, marroco, mali, Libye,,.....we have to look everywhere. Have a nice trip. Avoid millatary area and everything goes well inchallah. Welcome bro.
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You ate always eating loubia😂😂😂😂 after that iys normal you have a problème with your stomac 😅😅😅
I am used to eat lots of beans normally. The problem I think it was the eggs I had at breakfast or probably I contaminated the food because I touched the eggs.
should adress the algerien ppl & gouv to fix this trash & plastic pollution problem
الصلاة غير واجبة على المرأة هدا ماشي لغز
Police 👮🏾♂️👮🏾♂️👮🏾♂️ all the time
In islam women are not obliged to go to the mosque on Friday prayers. You need to read a little bit of the Islam rules my friend...
You're aware that you just commited a sin by dodging the hotel. I'm going to write to your Pope Francis and he will punish you. You should go as early as possible to confess to your priest on the first occasion!!!
What sin are you talking about?!? In any case I’m atheist.
@@DavideTravellithan you can commit any crime... don't worry you're allowed as an hateist 😂😂😂 even the police and god won't punish you like that!
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@@DavideTravelliBuona fortuna a te Davide nel mio paese, spero che ti piaccia ✌🏻
Ammiro il tuo coraggio nel pedalare in questo ambiente difficile
Grazie mille!
يا تبون نظف الطرقات و قول للشرطة ما يبقاوش يلحقو وراء الناس خلوهم يحوسو براحتهم و كاين طرق مراقبة من بعيد ..عيب عليكم بهدلتو بينا
نهار تكون ختك هي لي شادة لبلاد تخليهم على راحتهم و تولي كيما المروك الداخل اكثر من الخارج ، انتما لي بهدلتو بينا يا لكعب مخلوعين
You clean your own trash. It's a matter of civism. People need to be educated.
السلام عليكم الرئيس ليس له علاقة بهذا
النظافة مسئولية عامة الناس
وأما الشرطة والجيش والدرك يجب أن يعرف
هذا السائح ما يريد هذه أمور أمنية يجب مراعاتها
عليك أن توسع تفكيرك ثم تلقي اللوم على المعني
شكراً اتمنا أن تفهم
المراه في الاسلام لا تكثر الخروج من البيت الا للضروره لان خروج المراه من البيت معناها انها تختلط بالرجال واذا اختلطت المراه بالرجال ستحدث امور محرمه منكره وهذا لا يجوز لانه يتعارض مع الاخلاق و الحفاظ على الشرف والاعراض