The Power of Suggestion: How to Implant False Memories

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  • @jhimelick
    @jhimelick 9 років тому +26

    False memories can ruin families. There are therapists out there that still practice this stuff, and they need to be stopped!

    • @doppelhelixes
      @doppelhelixes 6 років тому +1

      nosoupfuru false memmorys can also save familys, do it on your own and implant happy memmorys in your mommys brain

    • @cheese3416
      @cheese3416 6 років тому +1

      Its the police too or feds , media, etc

    • @TimCBurgess
      @TimCBurgess 5 років тому

      Thank you for facing the mob and letting us know! truthaboutpseudomemories.blogspot.com/2019/11/experts-comment-on-repressed-memories.html

  • @jannela8
    @jannela8 11 років тому +20

    This is one of videos suggest by the psychology class on Coursera website.

  • @dannypenola2674
    @dannypenola2674 5 років тому +19

    How about implanting a positivefalse memory like being unusually good at something. ? And helping the person in some way?

    • @TimCBurgess
      @TimCBurgess 5 років тому

      It has been done.

    • @derigel9783
      @derigel9783 4 роки тому +1

      @@TimCBurgess When. How. Who?

    • @TimCBurgess
      @TimCBurgess 4 роки тому +1

      @@derigel9783 The classic and original experiment done by Dr. Elizabeth Loftus and has been replicated hundreds of times in peer reviewed studies since. Her most recent work is using planted memories to help clients change eating habits based on false memories of not liking food for example...
      truthaboutpseudomemories.blogspot.com/2019/11/experts-comment-on-repressed-memories.html

    • @TimCBurgess
      @TimCBurgess 4 роки тому +1

      Elizabeth Loftus moist recent research focuses now on that technique and it does work. Google it.....

    • @stellablue7435
      @stellablue7435 Місяць тому

      Did all these haters of this work not play that "pass the story" game in school? Teacher whispers the story in kids ear. Kid whispers it in next kids ear, and so on. The goal is for the classroom to return the story to the teacher in it's original truth. Story was never the same as original story by the end of the round.

  • @patienceparrott8881
    @patienceparrott8881 4 роки тому +6

    Is anyone else seriously disturbed that studies just casually planted a memory of an animal attack? O.o Even if they were able to tell them that it didn't happen afterwards, those with the full planted memory might suffer from mental conditions or a damaged narrative for years afterwards.

    • @maddycole
      @maddycole 2 роки тому +2

      I'm thinking the same thing. This just doesn't sit well with me at all ???

  • @Nukepositive
    @Nukepositive 13 років тому +3

    And people thought the movie Inception was fictional. . . .

  • @ThomasCPalmer
    @ThomasCPalmer 12 років тому +7

    Here because my psychology class made me.,..

  • @jfsfrnd
    @jfsfrnd 13 років тому +3

    @deezee871 1 - What about the adults who (as children or teens) repressed and afterward remembered sexual and ritual child abuse who NEVER got therapy. Elizabeth Lofthus seems to be saying that ALL these memories if repressed come from someone who went to therapy and were manipulated to believe in them. If she was to be honest she would create memories of sexual and ritual child/teen abuse in adults who had no previous memory of them.

  • @CollisionTheory08
    @CollisionTheory08 13 років тому +1

    @SarAein1 obviously you don't know about her research. Her goal was to actually call into question the validity of "repressed" memories. She is stating maybe the majority of "repressed" memory is simply products of the power of suggestion, either by books (i.e. The Courage to Heal by Bass and Davis) or by terrible psychiatrists (i.e. the Shauna Fletcher case).

  • @deezee871
    @deezee871 13 років тому +2

    @jfsfrnd Creating those kinds of memories is possible. Back in the 80's or 90's, a lot of women started to believe that they were sexually abused by their fathers because there was a big "repressed memories" fad going on. Some of the women who believed they may have repressed memories went to see mental health professionals about it, and they unintentionally created false memories in the minds of their patients.

    • @utoobiesmetube6027
      @utoobiesmetube6027 5 років тому

      Heather L Bennett your either really simple or more likely your being deceptive in order to protect psychopathic abusers which makes you a despicable creature Enjoy your Karma

  • @mrloop1530
    @mrloop1530 8 років тому +17

    False memory can have terrible consequences.
    Rejecting true memory as false memory can have just as terrible consequences.

    • @TimCBurgess
      @TimCBurgess 4 роки тому

      Find out the secrets about repressed memories here: truthaboutpseudomemories.blogspot.com/2019/10/secrets-about-repressed-memories.html

    • @alexanderfreeman3406
      @alexanderfreeman3406 3 роки тому +1

      You’re talking about gaslighting, where you manipulate a person by making them doubt there memories.
      But these studies aren’t about *existing* memories. They are about the utter lack of them - about making a subject believe in things that they literally could not have a memory of because they literally never happened.

    • @ThatisnotHair
      @ThatisnotHair Рік тому

      Reverse suggestability is worse. When people subliminaly make it to be false. But when actually it's true.

    • @mrloop1530
      @mrloop1530 Рік тому

      ​@@alexanderfreeman3406
      Yes I am.
      No they aren't.

    • @mrloop1530
      @mrloop1530 Рік тому

      @@ThatisnotHair Dunno which one is worse, and it doesn't matter either - they are both terrible.

  • @tomgeorgejr
    @tomgeorgejr 13 років тому +1

    @johntheother 1) It's not a memory of something that is horrifying. If they did that, then I would agree with you.
    2) If they had implanted a really happy memory, would you still be so upset?
    3) If there is no harm to anyone involved in this experiment, unlike for example, animal testing, how is this immoral?

  • @HaphazardCrappola
    @HaphazardCrappola 13 років тому +1

    @Mastikator I am well aware that the comment is more then 2 years old. But comments like these help me grasp the general psyche of humans which seems to be don't believe in something until someone of "authority" (intellectual, political or religious) confirms it.

  • @allisonwonder
    @allisonwonder 5 місяців тому

    My childhood memory is pretty vivid now, I could not believe these participants just fell into the trap.

  • @jfsfrnd
    @jfsfrnd 13 років тому +3

    @deezee871 2 - I still don't see how creating a memory of being lost in a mall or spilling punch on someone and being upset by it has any relation to being emotionally, mentally and physically/sexually violated/tortured and repressing all of part of it. One therapist tried this with me - told me my eating disorder meant I was sexually abused as a child. I left the therapy. So I am not saying that therapists did not start doing this, I am asking what their motivation was for doing so.

    • @cheese3416
      @cheese3416 6 років тому

      Research more. Listen to her ted talk. Look at cases where it happened and how

  • @johntheother
    @johntheother 15 років тому +2

    This video impresses me not because of the apparent power of applied psychology, rather im blown away at the total lack of ethicacy of what a pack of academics are cheerfully willing to do to members of the public. I cant begin to imagine what id do to somebody who I discovered had altered my memories. It seems not quite as bad as murder. Am I the only person who finds this shockingly amoral?

  • @ShawnsterVideos
    @ShawnsterVideos 13 років тому +1

    @Sheldonwh I respectfully disagree. The researchers became leaders in their field and earned big cash for presenting findings on tour, after using a fellow human in experimentation. The researchers' behaviour does not end at the completion of the experiment. Their publications will continue to earn income, and the test subjects earn nothing in return.

    • @cheese3416
      @cheese3416 6 років тому

      U realize the amount of ppl in prison that are innocent bc of false memories right? Many thousands proven innocent . Watch her ted talk

  • @vyshnavshabunair8358
    @vyshnavshabunair8358 4 роки тому +3

    one word.... Inception

  • @zara_went_aesthetic1612
    @zara_went_aesthetic1612 3 роки тому

    I just saw her on a ted talk and now I’m here it was not planned it’s kinda creepy

  • @HaphazardCrappola
    @HaphazardCrappola 13 років тому +1

    @jman9001 Isn't she a meddling psychologist set on proving that you can convince someone that something happened to them when it didn't? Methinks you need to re-listen to the premise of this "research". People AREN'T generating false memories UNTIL they are being subjected to "research" because they didn't have these memories in the first place UNTIL it was suggested that they did- and I'm assuming under hypnosis. Last time i checked the video is called Power of Suggestion not Faulty Memory.

  • @jfsfrnd
    @jfsfrnd 13 років тому +1

    @deezee871 The 80's or 90's? Exactly when did women start to believe they were sexually abused by their fathers because of the ''repressed memory fad''? Give me a better timeline. When did the first person falsely claim that their father sexually abused them because of a therapist implanting those memories in them?

  • @4G3NTanon
    @4G3NTanon 14 років тому

    @johntheother I understand that the researchers after the study let everyone "off the hook" and told the subjects what had been done.

  • @Sheldonwh
    @Sheldonwh 13 років тому +1

    @ShawnsterVideos Your argument seems to be that people can't be considered ethical if they make money. That's a ridiculous conclusion. Whether they make a million dollars or none, the ethics of the study is decided by an independent board called a Human Subjects Institutional Review Board. The research that Loftus does is totally harmless; if it weren't she wouldn't be approved by the HSIRB. It makes no difference whether the test subjects earn money. They were volunteers, not employees.

  • @JBlue761982
    @JBlue761982 13 років тому +1

    @jman9001 I was just getting ready to defend this brilliant and very important line of research when I read your comment. I could not have said it better myself. The only thing I would add is that all participants were debriefed extensively after their involvement in these studies.

  • @Andybaby
    @Andybaby 15 років тому +1

    A bunch of pre school teachers went to jail in the USA over this.. the kids said they were ALL abused.
    Later it was revealed it was all baloney, as this woman describes in the last bit.
    I think I guy plea bargained, and is STILL in jail!

  • @TangomanX2008
    @TangomanX2008 13 років тому +1

    @johntheother
    Oh, if you think thats scary, think of this lady when the next time you see a Disney commercial tells you to remember about your happy childhood memories at Disneyland.

    • @TimCBurgess
      @TimCBurgess 4 роки тому

      Profit from trauma today. It happens: truthaboutpseudomemories.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-profit-of-trauma.html

  • @JazzmineMartinez
    @JazzmineMartinez 11 років тому +2

    I know it's because of the courses. I took it myself. But why comment on it?There are 99% of youtube users, who might watch this video and who probably are not interested in knowing how other watchers came here. It's not commenting on the video but just very personal stuff, which is useless for the public. I just hate it as I hat all the sprayers walking the cities and tagging their names wherever they come along..like children write their names into trees or school desks :) "Cathy was here..."

  • @ishaangandhi5458
    @ishaangandhi5458 4 роки тому +1

    Prof Joordens sent me here

  • @Sheldonwh
    @Sheldonwh 13 років тому +1

    @johntheother First of all, I'm shocked that 14 people gave you the "thumbs up" without pointing out that there's no such word as "ethicacy," and that your meaning is almost completely lost in your poor sentence structure. More to the point, the researchers aren't being amoral or unethical. They implanted innocuous memories into these people, and then, as always, follow a strict debriefing technique afterward to ensure that the volunteers aren't harmed. Take a science class or shut up.

  • @AscelKadhem
    @AscelKadhem 13 років тому +4

    You can't compare your study to how we remember trauma! If something in your life really bad happens, you could never forget it.

    • @TimCBurgess
      @TimCBurgess 4 роки тому

      Profit from trauma today. It happens: truthaboutpseudomemories.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-profit-of-trauma.html

  • @145863x2
    @145863x2 14 років тому +1

    @johntheother
    Murder would kill you and artificial or temporary memory is not necessarily bad, its a natural process we undergo while learning all the time but then we also likewise realize it into our reality and this is only how it could be abused and is just a trust issue rather than labeling the entire concept as amoral. Why murder; it would loose clients,with a suffering client, greater the potential to self interest through solution. Knowledge deprivation is suffering under manipulation

  • @joekopsick1540
    @joekopsick1540 Рік тому

    Dr. Loftus was sexually abused as a child. That rapist was prosecuted. Loftus always remembered what happened to her.
    However, I believe that her experiences have led her to doubt the veracity of the claims of people who say they forgot memories of abuse.
    Such people suffer, first, from the initial trauma, and then they forget those memories, usually due to either the neglect and emotional abuse which came after the abuse (to cover it up, usually because the abuser is still around), and/or injuries to the head or deprivations of oxygen during the abuse (which can increase the likelihood of brain damage, leading to memory loss).
    The term "False Memory Syndrome" was coined by a CHILD RAPIST, Dr. Peter Freyd. He coined this term, and founded the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, specifically in order to discredit his own daughter's claims that he raped her. Jennifer Freyd became a psychologist and has written books about this.
    Recovered memories are not "false memories". The 1984 Illinois Supreme Court case Johnson v. Johnson recognized two classes of abuse victims: people who always remembered the abuse (like Dr. Loftus) and people who forgot the abuse and then recovered memories.
    Not all claims of recovered memories are false.

  • @ShawnsterVideos
    @ShawnsterVideos 13 років тому +2

    @FoolishTheMortal No matter what was asked, the test subjects were used, then discarded. Afterward, the academics published the results, took credit for the experiment, and made themselves rich & famous on touring stages without giving any monetary reward to test subjects.

  • @jfsfrnd
    @jfsfrnd 13 років тому +1

    Why doesn't she create false memories of sadistic child abuse? Because it's not possible?

  • @rosiertodd
    @rosiertodd 15 років тому +2

    Just because someone can recall being age 4 and remembering a sandbox that they played in doesn't mean they have "false memory".
    I can recall being lost in JC Penny when I was 4.
    I recall someone using the store intercom and saying that a little boy was lost. My mother found me there it was near the customer service booth.

  • @Narell
    @Narell 12 років тому +1

    Attempting to insult me only proves my point.

  • @tempchannel8111
    @tempchannel8111 Рік тому

    Can you implant memories in yourself

  • @deezee871
    @deezee871 13 років тому

    @jfsfrnd I don't know exactly when everything happened. It's not like it was in a textbook or something. I just know that there was a repressed memories fad and it took a long time for it to die down a little. There are some references to it in psychological journals; I remember reading about it last year when I was looking for a research topic. But memories have been long-proven to be highly malleable and easily manipulated.

  • @mrzack888
    @mrzack888 15 років тому +1

    the most lamb chopest are always the ones claiming others to be the sheepiest for calling other sheep.

  • @Giveitathought
    @Giveitathought 13 років тому

    @tuackanxu Have you ever been to Canada or meet a Canadian? Too bad ignorance can be just as easily implanted in the mind via verbal suggestion.

  • @HaphazardCrappola
    @HaphazardCrappola 13 років тому

    @Mastikator But the "Sheep" called you a Sheep way before this lady demonstrated false memories could be implanted in the brain. The later Sheep called the prior "Sheep" a conspiracy theorist and therefor wrong. Who is the real sheep?

  • @trulynot
    @trulynot 13 років тому +1

    You cant pull this shit on smart people. They are too aware - that is what makes them smart.

  • @SelflessResurrection
    @SelflessResurrection 12 років тому +1

    it probably wouldn't work too well since both you and i were exposed to this video but someone unawareness might. it might seem "elementary" to fall for it but some people do. they're not stupid though just more susceptible to manipulation

    • @cheese3416
      @cheese3416 6 років тому +1

      Knowing its possible has no impact on your ability to not be persuaded. All of your opinions are assigned to you

  • @mattsmith3056
    @mattsmith3056 8 років тому +3

    Hypnosis is an unreliable memory for obtaining true events, also the theory is that symptoms are a result of abuse if a person does not remember the abuse, the idea is that it is stored in cellular memory (yes like homeopathy theory!) then by experiencing the abuse that never happened and feeling the emotions! Then the therapist saying it wasn't your fault and sometimes encouraging people to confront the allegalled abusers they are supposedly empowering themselves! This just breaks up families and destroys relationships lives and careers when teachers other people are wrongly accused! Memory is not like a video camera it is more fluidic and changeable even by talking about something if you feel bad you can compilound the negative side of it! Therapist who make such suggestions are mentally abusing their clients! A psychologist is not an investigator and should not act in this way this is unethical and discredited as is unreliable!

  • @mrzack888
    @mrzack888 15 років тому

    @greatbored
    my friend, your comments on eating sheep are misleading, and may be mistaken for something other than desirable.

  • @CDeen
    @CDeen 13 років тому

    having an eating disorder may correlate to abuse but not neccessarily have to have been the cause of it one bit.

  • @jfsfrnd
    @jfsfrnd 12 років тому

    @amemy1 So its the medias fault that Elizabeth Lofthus created her lost in a mall fallacy to discredit memories of childhood sexual abuse?

    • @TimCBurgess
      @TimCBurgess 4 роки тому

      Find out the secrets about repressed memories here: truthaboutpseudomemories.blogspot.com/2019/10/secrets-about-repressed-memories.html

  • @Narell
    @Narell 12 років тому +3

    Persuading someone to believe:
    a false memory of being lost in the mall as a child, where one was rescued
    vs.
    false memories of systemic, complex memories of severe trauma, where one may never have been rescued...
    Are two entirely different things.
    There is no such thing as False Memory Syndrome. It is merely a cover "label" for an organization not founded through scientific research, but by highly emotional reports of accused abusers.

    • @cheese3416
      @cheese3416 6 років тому

      Oh yes there is false memories and planting or suggesting them

  • @jfsfrnd
    @jfsfrnd 12 років тому

    @MrOABeats I sincerely hope your professor isn't claiming that false memory syndrome is valid.

    • @TimCBurgess
      @TimCBurgess 4 роки тому

      Find out the secrets to repressed memories! They are all here: truthaboutpseudomemories.blogspot.com/2019/10/secrets-about-repressed-memories.html

  • @mrzack888
    @mrzack888 15 років тому

    the head of the curve are sheep dog like me, the ones trailing the curve would be considered lamb chop.

  • @ajarnbrian4
    @ajarnbrian4 11 років тому

    You're both wrong and offensive. The published and peer reviewed research done by Loftus and others shows that false memories have indeed been implanted. If you have evidence of research that contradicts the work of Loftus, please tell us. This of course does not negate real cases of child abuse.

  • @JazzmineMartinez
    @JazzmineMartinez 11 років тому

    OMG , why do so many people just comment: Brought here by coursera? I don't get the meaning of those statements...

    • @cheese3416
      @cheese3416 6 років тому

      May help us see how we are manipulated by internet

  • @Mastikator
    @Mastikator 15 років тому +1

    The sheepiest are always the ones claiming not to be a sheep.

  • @stealthswimmer
    @stealthswimmer 14 років тому +1

    so 25% of the people fell for it. That means that 75% of the people didn't. Still, shows they might be on to something. Seems like it could be useful stuff.

    • @cheese3416
      @cheese3416 6 років тому

      And have you ever been falsely accused? Hope not

  • @stellablue7435
    @stellablue7435 Місяць тому

    No sound

  • @MrHinchapelotas
    @MrHinchapelotas 14 років тому +1

    I find this amoral too, it makes me rethink reality again!

  • @chicolatino28
    @chicolatino28 11 років тому +3

    Brought here by Coursera !

  • @fatqueer6166
    @fatqueer6166 7 років тому +1

    what if we could save memorys and implant them into a human being! We could create a human being that Knows everything.

    • @cheese3416
      @cheese3416 6 років тому

      Interface. Elon musk

    • @latioswarshowdown1202
      @latioswarshowdown1202 6 років тому +1

      What a horrible idea and also you cant save ideas because they are stored all over the brain in their physical form they are conections of neurons in a certain way but it has no meaning or context if you put it on another persons brain however primal fears like the fear of the unknown snakes or dead can be passed down in your gens

  • @Mastikator
    @Mastikator 15 років тому

    Sheep say "bah", sheeple say "sheep".

  • @FoolishTheMortal
    @FoolishTheMortal 13 років тому

    @ShawnsterVideos All they did was ask if something happened and to tell them about it.

  • @SelflessResurrection
    @SelflessResurrection 12 років тому +1

    this comment is "proof" that your mind lacks in-depth thought. proof is not the correct word, use "suggests" as any beginner in psychology knows.

  • @greatbroad
    @greatbroad 15 років тому

    @ zslastman
    What teenagers?

  • @Mastikator
    @Mastikator 13 років тому

    @HaphazardCrappola Dude that's a 2 year old comment.

  • @suzysmash3560
    @suzysmash3560 11 років тому +1

    I feel like cult leaders are privy to this.

  • @johntheother
    @johntheother 13 років тому

    @likespinningplanets circumstantial ad hom - put your flash cards away sigmund

  • @cheese3416
    @cheese3416 6 років тому +6

    Kavanaugh accuser

    • @NefariousPlans
      @NefariousPlans 6 років тому

      Damn, you beat me to it.

    • @TimCBurgess
      @TimCBurgess 4 роки тому

      Very common....there is a huge profit in "Trauma" truthaboutpseudomemories.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-profit-of-trauma.html

  • @beardedmonkey2752
    @beardedmonkey2752 6 років тому +3

    Psychic RAPE.. It's a molestation of a person's most private space..
    In the video, woman presenting this material seems to be void of empathy for the people being experimented on.. I find her lack of empathy to be abhorrent and repulsive...

    • @cheese3416
      @cheese3416 6 років тому +1

      You fool. Go watch how she got into it. Its opposite of your idiotic comment

    • @Jordan-uz9me
      @Jordan-uz9me 5 років тому

      She's giving an academic presentation. What do you want her to do, burst out in tears and sob uncontrollably? Also, she started her involvement in this field because of a man who was falsely accused of a crime based upon a false memory, who later died from a stress-induced heart-attack.
      Also, the memory she was talking about, the instilling of a false childhood event, what's the unethical dimension to that? It's immediately revealed to be false as soon as they are convinced it is true.

  • @McArrowni
    @McArrowni 15 років тому +1

    wasn't that a wresting group in the 90s?

  • @jfsfrnd
    @jfsfrnd 13 років тому

    @deezee871 People can also create fads when it is convenient to do so.

  • @k39564
    @k39564 13 років тому

    maybe they did . can you prove it did not happen ?? this is stupid

  • @gpmweb
    @gpmweb 13 років тому +1

    Sloppy science I think. It discounts the fact that subjects may have been lying to please the interviewer and having made that lie, it was too embarrassing to retract at later stages. I interview hundreds a people over a year and have been lied to frequently, often because is what people think I want to hear - doubt if any of them are false memories.

  • @Mastikator
    @Mastikator 15 років тому

    Other people aren't sheep?

  • @0RespectMyAuthority0
    @0RespectMyAuthority0 12 років тому

    @HaphazardCrappola no me

  • @Bastard471
    @Bastard471 11 років тому

    look awawty. dont say anything.

  • @greatbroad
    @greatbroad 15 років тому

    I run with the wolves and am The Bitch. I eat sheep.

  • @ashunga543
    @ashunga543 13 років тому

    that is inception kind of shit lol

  • @Camboninja94
    @Camboninja94 13 років тому

    did anyone else notice that the length of this video was 4:20 exactly........

  • @greatbroad
    @greatbroad 15 років тому

    @ mrzack888
    Then short-sighted judgments are one of your vices, my friend, please forgive me for saying.
    For me, I like to click on a person's channel, to check them out if I'm not liking what I think they are saying.

  • @OsoLoco40
    @OsoLoco40 13 років тому

    Documentary Expose

  • @HaphazardCrappola
    @HaphazardCrappola 13 років тому

    @Sheldonwh Guinea Pig Kids

  • @dunndudebemelol
    @dunndudebemelol 15 років тому

    The whole sexual thing is off by a mile!

  • @theewildrose
    @theewildrose 15 років тому

    hahahahahahahahaaaaa. Vicious animal attacks! That's great.

  • @HaphazardCrappola
    @HaphazardCrappola 13 років тому

    @fartsam08 Fart Sam, my name is more amazing.

  • @tangogamingS
    @tangogamingS 3 роки тому

    Mk Ultra