They should've kept the Eddie storyline as an introduction. The reason I say that is because it's why Cypher betrayed Morpheus, and it adds enough depth to Cypher that it makes him relatable. He's tired of Morpheus' ideas getting people killed, and he's tired of fighting a losing war. With that context, Cypher goes from a generic bad guy with no explainable reason he would betray his crew, to someone who reached his breaking point, and just wanted to go back to ignorance, rather than witnessing people die all the time. It's the difference between a dry, unrelatable bad guy, and a deeper, worn out soldier that just wants it all to be over.
Fellas if we left Eddie’s story in wouldn’t add much the film and I enjoy the concept of why cypher wanted back the matrix without presenting it. Give us the movie goers a chance to wonder the explanation of cypher decision
The fact they got turned down in the begining led to a much better all around movie. The original has terminator vibes for sure. Nothing wrong with terminator but that's what terminator is for, we don't want a knock off of that. I think it's awesome they went back and worked hard on an even better story that is iconic
Yea really glad we got the matrix we know now it’s actually relatable like it could actually be a theory of what or life’s are the original does seem more like a terminator type sci if action movie just disappointed with the new matrix movie could of been so much better
Interestingly though the original creator of the matrix who won a court case against the Wachowskis explained that she wrote the terminator and matrix movies as one plot. The machine ai had improved dramatically by the time the matrix plot books arrived. The fbi was involved in that court case also.
It's pretty remarkable that you've managed to create 5 star videos from a film franchise consisting of only 4 movies. There are channels dedicated to long running tv shows that sometimes run dry on topics. Incredible work mate. I think the original script would have been a fun film to watch but I don't think it would have become what it is today if it were not revised.
the first draft made sense when you realize early 90s blockbusters like Speed, Demolition Man, 12 Monkeys, Judge Dredd, and Terminator 2 were the type of movie that hollywood was making back then
12 Monkeys was made with two dollars and and a dream. I’d hardly call it a blockbuster or lump it in with the others. It’s also a masterpiece, unlike Judge Dredd, Speed, or Demolition Man.
As someone who has written before, I definitely have had my ideas and overall style shot down, only go to back to the drawing board. I never let go of the spirit and messages, only altered their execution. The Matrix we got was the best possible execution and timing.
I know that feeling for sure and agree. The Matrix was truly stylized after Ghost in the Shell with a few other classic anime mixed in as their inspiration/copy/however one see's the film. But the Wachaowskis definitely pulled from the anime world.
I like the final story better. Though, I've read somewhere that in the original story people were used as a processing power (human brains as a powerful neural networks) not as batteries which (the batteries) does not make much sense since machines would need to pump a lot of calories into those pods just to keep people alive, not to mention keeping them warm in the dark, cold world.
I think the brothers had not read or considered the book Simulacra and Simulation when writing the first script. Then after getting the feedback they incorporated it into their story. Thats what brought the big change in the vibe and overall story.
The producer was right. That original script devolved into just another Terminator movie. Glad we got the final product that we did. However, there are some elements from that original script that most certainly would’ve worked in the final. The concept of Morpheous’ stance on love, as it pertains to soldiers. This most certainly could have been a secondary theme that presented its own conflicts between the characters. it’s not that Morpheus was against it, it was that he was against it for those selected in carrying out the task of fighting the war. He needed soldiers to be clear minded, unattached and focused. That was one of the sacrifices, as a soldier, they would give up in order to help humanity. The conflict would have been him realizing that soldiers are still humans, too, and that we all need that connection. That story most certainly could’ve worked in the final.
You say, "The concept of Morpheous’ stance on love, as it pertains to soldiers. This most certainly could have been a secondary theme that presented its own conflicts between the characters" and I agree. It would also be a great *internal conflict!
This is exactly what I was thinking. Especially given the later themes of the love between Trinity and Neo being the source of their power, as contrasted with the love of previous integral anomalies for the whole of humanity, it is incredibly on-point and powerful to show Morpheus' initial flaw being his belief that personal love is a weakness. You can really see how the Wachowski sisters carried this idea forward and expanded and improved it, thanks to the tension with a producer who didn't accept the original script. Kind of a stellar example of the system actually working.
However, forbidding the possibility of love might make the soldier emotionless, thus rendering them to a robot, which they are fighting against. Valuing human characteristics is good for creating contrast between the adversaries.
You do realize this is the script that was turned into terminator and it's sequel is the Matrix 1. It was an original script from a black female. She sold the rights and didn't get credit to terminator nor the Matrix. She basically created terminator and the Matrix. Look it up.
What we got is so much better. I also appreciate that sometimes only PART of a great story makes a great film, and the Wachowskis used other media that was better venues to tell other parts, such as Kid's backstory.
Remember, dreamers, from the first letter struck in 1989 to the last flicker of light on the silver screen, it took ten years. You have to craft, and you have to draft.
Fundamentally different movie. They totally redone concept in the end. The first one was more complicated and with totallly different vibes, more like 90s movie. The final one has new millenium vibes.
Thank you again for a well produced video and for all the insight into the world of The Matrix. I can’t help but watch your videos the second they drop.
The matrix is the single greatest movie ever made period. It is almost divinely inspired in my humble opinion. It is the single greatest story ever produced as a film and flawlessly executed.
The beginning was an interesting prolog to a novel concept but since the main character died..there was nowhere else to go with it and it was explored in the animatrix to revisit the idea that Neo wasn't the 1st!👏👏
Could you make a video about the sources of inspiration for The Matrix, for example, the story is very similar to an Italian comic that came out previously: “razzi amari”
There's a saying: when it's time to railroad, you railroad, not before. Did you know that the photographic camera, the bicycle, the airplane, and many other inventions were developed by different people, in different places, without knowledge of each other's work, at the same time? Every mathematical or scientific discovery, every invention, every story, all art, they all build on work of the past. They are all discovered or created within the context of a culture that is ripe for them. The Matrix and Dark City are both amazing stories, and very similar, and they were both developed in a world that was ripe for them. It's a fascinating truth about the universe (or simulation?) we live in, and something that I'm afraid won't be recognized in the future, as we are all aware of every latest thing at all times.
This script definitely pales in comparison to the masterpiece we ultimately received. The Matrix is groundbreaking in every category, compelling and thought provoking. This script depicts a film much like many others we've seen.
As someone who is a big fan of the Terminator franchise, I am glad the Terminator-esque script was sacked in favor of the version we did get. I would not conceive the Termina-trix to be anywhere as compelling as the film we got.
It gets too busy. Smith being more the face of an all powerful system works better in a broader way, and Neo an everyman underdog. The final version invests more in the archetypes. It does the resurrection of the hero at the end to round his arc. And at the same time it wasn’t completely derivative because it’s clearly rooted in a point in time, the 90s were coming to a close and the brave new world of the internet was now ubiquitous…the existential anxieties in how uprooting an influence that was becoming. The script had to find itself.
I actually heard that the Terminator movies and the Matrix movies were supposed to be the same universe and that Terminator deals with the events before humanity lost the war, and the Matrix movies show what happened after the machines won.
I always felt that The Matrix was "Terminator" meets" Nightmare on Elm Street". Humans are fighting machines in an apocolyptic world, and if you die in this virtual dream world, you die for real.
The first draft was perfect! This just goes to show you how ridiculous "Hollyweird" is, and how they are afraid to do new and interesting things. They always have to remold something to be lesser than what it was before or keep making the same movies with different settings and actors over and over. I still love the Matrix and all, but that script was excellent!
I love the first Matrix. The first only. When Neo gets to have superpowers in the real world they lost me, it doesn't make any sense and it ruins the premise.
Same thing happened in star wars episode 3 when they removed the "kill for love "aspect when anakin believed obiwan was trying to steal his love... makes it like a whole different movie
Gives a good glimpse into why good ideas in Hollywood (well ones not already suppoprted by an exisitng profitable IP) almost always never get made, the fact that the Matrix made it as a movie at all in th 90's is a minor miracle.
I've ALWAYS said that The Matrix is hugely influenced by Dark City. Please do the video you mentioned about the history and differences between the two
Imagine this movie with Will Smith instead 😭😭😭 The first movie was amazing, I saw it when I was too young to really grasp it so I went back n watched it again when the sequels dropped! Way ahead of its time! Loved the Original Trilogy!
So, basically, the producer stopped "The Matrix" from becoming what Marvel movies have become. Good move, cuz in the end, it created a saga which went on to become legendary.
The first Matrix was a perfect world, rivaled only by it's inevitable failure. The problem lied in the fact humans need misery and suffering to accept their reality.
The Matrix is probably the most perfect movie out there the way it unfolds and how it keeps your attention. It's clear that it took some time to develop compared to the two sequels that followed and whatever the fourth one was supposed to be.
From my understanding the use of humans as a energy source was added later, because the studio thought the original idea of humans being used for their brains acting as processors was difficult for the audience to understand.
I heard of a draft, where humans were "harvested" for their creativity instead of electric power. Would have made more sense for me, but I guess, it was a bit to esoteric for Hollywood.
There must be thousands of tales probably since the beginning of history where a character's loyalty is put to test by using some form of hallucination or fake reality. I'm glad they got rid of that idea.
I thought the original idea was that they used the human minds for their processing power. But it was determined that the average viewer wouldn’t understand so they changed it to using them as batteries
Never realized that the Matrix states this was the 6th version of the Matrix. Very similar to how some scientist believe that our civilization is the most recent form of humans and that there was multiple civilizations that lived and died before ours throughout history. our world has a hidden history of wiping the planet clean to start over from scratch.
I wouldn't mind watching "alternate versions" of movies, if they're produced. It's like seeing a "what if" story with the same components, but a different arrangement and final composition. Like a remix. Comics and video games do it and it works.
8:08 humans being used for electricity was not in the original script of The Matrix - it said humans' brains were used for computation, which was later changed to the easier to understand concept of electricity for mainstream audience 🧐🧐🧐
There is a fundamental difference between a cool idea, and an actual story. The draft you just told us about suffers from a cool idea that is not actually a story, which is an honest, failing of a lot of science fiction. Ideally, you wanna have a solid story that has a lot of cool ideas baked into it, and what you read certainly was not at that point. I do understand what the person reading the script meant when he said, the spiritual and metaphysical aspect of it were confusing. They are. They are not baked into the story itself, in the version you told us about they seem like they’re just sort of bolted on to the sides. The rewrite incorporates them into essential portions of the story rather than superficial sub dressing.
Well since the idea of a computer generated simulation is around since at least 1973s "Welt am Draht" both "Dark City" and "Matrix" probably just drew from similar inspirations.
Excellent. It's arguable as well that they simply managed to come up with a greater concept using the good ideas they had, rather than specifically focusing on the 'bad elements' as the video concludes. thanks
I think the best change here was to fix "VR" ... I don't like how it was mentioned. The later version reversed it, since Neo does not go into VR, but out of it. So they "just" have to create a futuristic, destroyed earth and everything in "VR" aka Matrix is our real world with some superhuman abilities. This makes it comfortable to understand what it's like inside the matrix and nothing outside (the movies real world) is too abstract. If there is anything hard to understand, it is what Neo, Morpheus and Agent Smith were. None of them were only humans or programs. They were part of a system that the Architect builds and the Oracle manipulates. Controlled freedom as the perfect prison. I think this is why "no one" liked Matrix 3, it needed a (non-repeating) end to that story, not just a big boss fight and happy end.
They should've kept the Eddie storyline as an introduction. The reason I say that is because it's why Cypher betrayed Morpheus, and it adds enough depth to Cypher that it makes him relatable. He's tired of Morpheus' ideas getting people killed, and he's tired of fighting a losing war. With that context, Cypher goes from a generic bad guy with no explainable reason he would betray his crew, to someone who reached his breaking point, and just wanted to go back to ignorance, rather than witnessing people die all the time. It's the difference between a dry, unrelatable bad guy, and a deeper, worn out soldier that just wants it all to be over.
agreed. and thanks for explaining it so well.
Fellas if we left Eddie’s story in wouldn’t add much the film and I enjoy the concept of why cypher wanted back the matrix without presenting it. Give us the movie goers a chance to wonder the explanation of cypher decision
It could have added to Cypher's story, but it would've taken away focus from Neo's story. I think Cypher's motivations were pretty strong and clear.
The pacing of the movie is almost perfect. No need to slow it further down.
I think that would be possible as a "Raiders" style prologue. God you could even produce it today.
"The great Morpheus, we meet at last."
"And you are?"
"Smith. CyberMarine Smith."
The fact they got turned down in the begining led to a much better all around movie. The original has terminator vibes for sure. Nothing wrong with terminator but that's what terminator is for, we don't want a knock off of that. I think it's awesome they went back and worked hard on an even better story that is iconic
agreed. the original plot would have been cringe.
Yea really glad we got the matrix we know now it’s actually relatable like it could actually be a theory of what or life’s are the original does seem more like a terminator type sci if action movie just disappointed with the new matrix movie could of been so much better
Because it was ripped from a lady that won a lawsuit about both.
Interestingly though the original creator of the matrix who won a court case against the Wachowskis explained that she wrote the terminator and matrix movies as one plot. The machine ai had improved dramatically by the time the matrix plot books arrived. The fbi was involved in that court case also.
@@driver55 Wow FBI ? Why would they be interested in it?
2009 - 1989 = 20 Math, crazy how that works.
give me money please
I'd love we just replayed 1989-2009, a golden age.
A golden what now?
89-01 was golden age for the USA and Western Europe, post 9-11 and "War on Terror" not so much.
@@XxLIVRAxX I'd buy that for a dollar
I was born in 1980 but I suspect 1969-1990 would be the ideal loop.
Who wants 10 years of the phony "War on Terrorism" waging war on their freedoms.
@XxLIVRAxX Looking back and comparing it to the post 9/11 and especially now I'd definitely agree.
It's pretty remarkable that you've managed to create 5 star videos from a film franchise consisting of only 4 movies. There are channels dedicated to long running tv shows that sometimes run dry on topics. Incredible work mate. I think the original script would have been a fun film to watch but I don't think it would have become what it is today if it were not revised.
No no no no. Three movies, and one really terrible fan fiction.
the first draft made sense when you realize early 90s blockbusters like Speed, Demolition Man, 12 Monkeys, Judge Dredd, and Terminator 2 were the type of movie that hollywood was making back then
12 Monkeys was made with two dollars and and a dream. I’d hardly call it a blockbuster or lump it in with the others. It’s also a masterpiece, unlike Judge Dredd, Speed, or Demolition Man.
2009 - 1989 = 20 years... not 30 years as stated. Aside from that this is a great video as usual! Keep up the great work
Yeah 20 years. I think subconsciously he felt 2009 as 2019 keeping in mind about The Matrix Resurrections. Glitch indeed.
i was born in 89' and I was questioning myself for 1 second there
Thank you!
@@haavard1989 time is an illusion 😼 esp. when u in da matrix 😱
😨 I thought 30 years too !!!!
Between 1989 and 2009 there are 20 years, not 30.
Nah. You are just older than you thought.
Lol
I heard him say 20 but, you know, maybe it's due to them having fixed the glitch in the Matrix until I saw it
True but no real computers in 1979…
People Always gotta cry about something. You must be a real treat to be around at parties.
As someone who has written before, I definitely have had my ideas and overall style shot down, only go to back to the drawing board. I never let go of the spirit and messages, only altered their execution. The Matrix we got was the best possible execution and timing.
I know that feeling for sure and agree. The Matrix was truly stylized after Ghost in the Shell with a few other classic anime mixed in as their inspiration/copy/however one see's the film. But the Wachaowskis definitely pulled from the anime world.
I like the final story better. Though, I've read somewhere that in the original story people were used as a processing power (human brains as a powerful neural networks) not as batteries which (the batteries) does not make much sense since machines would need to pump a lot of calories into those pods just to keep people alive, not to mention keeping them warm in the dark, cold world.
Yeah, I read that humans were used to control a unique form of fusion reactors while they slept
They thought batteries would be easier for the public to understand at that time.
2009 - 1989 = 20 :)
I love that both versions end with, "and then, _THEY FUCK,_ the end."
I think the brothers had not read or considered the book Simulacra and Simulation when writing the first script. Then after getting the feedback they incorporated it into their story. Thats what brought the big change in the vibe and overall story.
This book is amazing and mind blown btw
*Sisters*
Yeah bro if you’d read that book you could’ve got their pronouns down.
They had a read of nothing. Their fame and fortune is based upon stolen work.
@@rossleeson8626 Why... their pronouns will probably change again real soon? Ain't nobody got time for that bs.
The producer was right. That original script devolved into just another Terminator movie. Glad we got the final product that we did. However, there are some elements from that original script that most certainly would’ve worked in the final. The concept of Morpheous’ stance on love, as it pertains to soldiers. This most certainly could have been a secondary theme that presented its own conflicts between the characters. it’s not that Morpheus was against it, it was that he was against it for those selected in carrying out the task of fighting the war. He needed soldiers to be clear minded, unattached and focused. That was one of the sacrifices, as a soldier, they would give up in order to help humanity. The conflict would have been him realizing that soldiers are still humans, too, and that we all need that connection. That story most certainly could’ve worked in the final.
You say, "The concept of Morpheous’ stance on love, as it pertains to soldiers. This most certainly could have been a secondary theme that presented its own conflicts between the characters" and I agree. It would also be a great *internal conflict!
This is exactly what I was thinking. Especially given the later themes of the love between Trinity and Neo being the source of their power, as contrasted with the love of previous integral anomalies for the whole of humanity, it is incredibly on-point and powerful to show Morpheus' initial flaw being his belief that personal love is a weakness. You can really see how the Wachowski sisters carried this idea forward and expanded and improved it, thanks to the tension with a producer who didn't accept the original script. Kind of a stellar example of the system actually working.
However, forbidding the possibility of love might make the soldier emotionless, thus rendering them to a robot, which they are fighting against. Valuing human characteristics is good for creating contrast between the adversaries.
You do realize this is the script that was turned into terminator and it's sequel is the Matrix 1. It was an original script from a black female. She sold the rights and didn't get credit to terminator nor the Matrix. She basically created terminator and the Matrix. Look it up.
@@marcoantoniorojasrodriguez4875
That sounds a little far-fetched
This first draft sounds straight out of White Wolf's World of Darkness, Mage the Ascension, Virtual Adepts.
What we got is so much better. I also appreciate that sometimes only PART of a great story makes a great film, and the Wachowskis used other media that was better venues to tell other parts, such as Kid's backstory.
You can see the producer’s name, Joel Silver, who ultimately produced the 1999 film. I think it’s safe to say that he was right
Remember, dreamers, from the first letter struck in 1989 to the last flicker of light on the silver screen, it took ten years. You have to craft, and you have to draft.
Shout-out from Newcastle South Africa 🇿🇦 *The Matrix has us*
1989-2009 is 20 years lol had me questioning my age for min bro
The Cyber Marines remind me quite a bit of the Sentinels.
And the machines in the film remind me of Halo sentinels lol
Fundamentally different movie. They totally redone concept in the end. The first one was more complicated and with totallly different vibes, more like 90s movie. The final one has new millenium vibes.
Dude, this video is what your channel was all about.
Well done.
The story definitely got better in the movie apparently but thank good that they kept the philosophical perspective
Thank you again for a well produced video and for all the insight into the world of The Matrix. I can’t help but watch your videos the second they drop.
The above video has no insight. It's disinformation.
Glad you're back bro! This is a successful channel that's growing! One of my favorite YT channels!
Fantastic Document. super insightful. I love what you guys do. heres to hoping for an Animatrix 2 to keep going deeper on this franchise.
Glad this channel is getting some new content! Keep it going!
The matrix is the single greatest movie ever made period. It is almost divinely inspired in my humble opinion. It is the single greatest story ever produced as a film and flawlessly executed.
Hell yeah man. I missed this channel
Amazing, thank you for sharing this!
Love all your videos.
That Chanel is so good . Keep it up man
So cool, man, thank you!
Dang , that original Eddie story gotta be MADE man lol..sounds interesting .. " The Story Before The Red & Blue Pill "
Honestly, this happens all of the time. It's pretty rare for a script to get approved in its first version.
great video! loooove the art too 🥰🔥
The beginning was an interesting prolog to a novel concept but since the main character died..there was nowhere else to go with it and it was explored in the animatrix to revisit the idea that Neo wasn't the 1st!👏👏
Thanks for this video!
Love the matrix love your videos. getting a better understanding of the matrix
I love Dark City.
That producer sounds like someone with a ton of experience. Just shows a failor is just a way to learn something and improve. Never give up !
Could you make a video about the sources of inspiration for The Matrix, for example, the story is very similar to an Italian comic that came out previously: “razzi amari”
20yrs man. 20yrs.
There's a saying: when it's time to railroad, you railroad, not before. Did you know that the photographic camera, the bicycle, the airplane, and many other inventions were developed by different people, in different places, without knowledge of each other's work, at the same time? Every mathematical or scientific discovery, every invention, every story, all art, they all build on work of the past. They are all discovered or created within the context of a culture that is ripe for them. The Matrix and Dark City are both amazing stories, and very similar, and they were both developed in a world that was ripe for them. It's a fascinating truth about the universe (or simulation?) we live in, and something that I'm afraid won't be recognized in the future, as we are all aware of every latest thing at all times.
"Human brains make better CPUs than silicon chips" thingy was my favorites from there
Matrix and Terminator strike me as different aspects of the same story
👊🏾😎👍🏼
They needed an harsher critic when it came to Cloud Atlas.
This script definitely pales in comparison to the masterpiece we ultimately received. The Matrix is groundbreaking in every category, compelling and thought provoking. This script depicts a film much like many others we've seen.
They were handed the work of some unknown kid. Type The Ciphermen into a search engine.
I'm glad changes were made the first matrix movie is my all time favorite visually and plot wise nothing else compares 😎
Or are u
As someone who is a big fan of the Terminator franchise, I am glad the Terminator-esque script was sacked in favor of the version we did get. I would not conceive the Termina-trix to be anywhere as compelling as the film we got.
Hands him a golf ball. "Here, swallow this".. lol
It gets too busy. Smith being more the face of an all powerful system works better in a broader way, and Neo an everyman underdog. The final version invests more in the archetypes. It does the resurrection of the hero at the end to round his arc. And at the same time it wasn’t completely derivative because it’s clearly rooted in a point in time, the 90s were coming to a close and the brave new world of the internet was now ubiquitous…the existential anxieties in how uprooting an influence that was becoming. The script had to find itself.
I actually heard that the Terminator movies and the Matrix movies were supposed to be the same universe and that Terminator deals with the events before humanity lost the war, and the Matrix movies show what happened after the machines won.
I always felt that The Matrix was "Terminator" meets" Nightmare on Elm Street".
Humans are fighting machines in an apocolyptic world, and if you die in this virtual dream world, you die for real.
I'm glad you found something new to say.
The first draft was perfect! This just goes to show you how ridiculous "Hollyweird" is, and how they are afraid to do new and interesting things. They always have to remold something to be lesser than what it was before or keep making the same movies with different settings and actors over and over.
I still love the Matrix and all, but that script was excellent!
I love the first Matrix.
The first only.
When Neo gets to have superpowers in the real world they lost me, it doesn't make any sense and it ruins the premise.
Same thing happened in star wars episode 3 when they removed the "kill for love "aspect when anakin believed obiwan was trying to steal his love... makes it like a whole different movie
I thought the original script used humans as cpu's. Which makes 1000x more sense than batteries as it doesn't violate thermodynamics.
The Producer needs a raise
Gives a good glimpse into why good ideas in Hollywood (well ones not already suppoprted by an exisitng profitable IP) almost always never get made, the fact that the Matrix made it as a movie at all in th 90's is a minor miracle.
I've ALWAYS said that The Matrix is hugely influenced by Dark City. Please do the video you mentioned about the history and differences between the two
I'm grateful for what was done exactly how it was and how it was released.
Imagine this movie with Will Smith instead 😭😭😭 The first movie was amazing, I saw it when I was too young to really grasp it so I went back n watched it again when the sequels dropped! Way ahead of its time! Loved the Original Trilogy!
Great Video as always! Had a question for a long time, what's that music you always use for the intros?
Loved Dark City... i remember seeing it when it came out... i heard Matrix even used some of the Dark City sets...
So, basically, the producer stopped "The Matrix" from becoming what Marvel movies have become. Good move, cuz in the end, it created a saga which went on to become legendary.
The first matrix was called DARK CITY and it was an actual movie about a fake reality and a chosen one who fought against it's creators
that is nice love to see a movie of this 1 script
The first script was the movie Dark City, as Matrix is basically a copy of it.
The first Matrix was a perfect world, rivaled only by it's inevitable failure. The problem lied in the fact humans need misery and suffering to accept their reality.
The Matrix is probably the most perfect movie out there the way it unfolds and how it keeps your attention. It's clear that it took some time to develop compared to the two sequels that followed and whatever the fourth one was supposed to be.
It's interesting how The Matrix stands head and shoulders above the sequels and their other works.
From my understanding the use of humans as a energy source was added later, because the studio thought the original idea of humans being used for their brains acting as processors was difficult for the audience to understand.
I think this producer's criticism is exactly right about the rest of the Wachowskis career, and especially the remainder of the Matrix movies.
Very interesting.
I heard of a draft, where humans were "harvested" for their creativity instead of electric power. Would have made more sense for me, but I guess, it was a bit to esoteric for Hollywood.
Amazing
This is where the Neo is John Conner comes in....
There must be thousands of tales probably since the beginning of history where a character's loyalty is put to test by using some form of hallucination or fake reality. I'm glad they got rid of that idea.
I thought the original idea was that they used the human minds for their processing power. But it was determined that the average viewer wouldn’t understand so they changed it to using them as batteries
Never realized that the Matrix states this was the 6th version of the Matrix. Very similar to how some scientist believe that our civilization is the most recent form of humans and that there was multiple civilizations that lived and died before ours throughout history. our world has a hidden history of wiping the planet clean to start over from scratch.
Definitely a good thing they rewrote the latter half. It really did feel like a Terminator rip-off in that part.
The matrix 1 movie changed everything.
God, this is so aweful. I'm glad the re-wrote this.
I wouldn't mind watching "alternate versions" of movies, if they're produced.
It's like seeing a "what if" story with the same components, but a different arrangement and final composition.
Like a remix.
Comics and video games do it and it works.
wow they made some pretty good post-idea conception choices to say the least
8:08 humans being used for electricity was not in the original script of The Matrix - it said humans' brains were used for computation, which was later changed to the easier to understand concept of electricity for mainstream audience 🧐🧐🧐
so glad the first script did not get picked up lol
5k likes that's what's up!
So, Cypher was not so wrong in his reaction. I need to read more about Eddie, thank you for this video
There is a fundamental difference between a cool idea, and an actual story. The draft you just told us about suffers from a cool idea that is not actually a story, which is an honest, failing of a lot of science fiction. Ideally, you wanna have a solid story that has a lot of cool ideas baked into it, and what you read certainly was not at that point.
I do understand what the person reading the script meant when he said, the spiritual and metaphysical aspect of it were confusing. They are. They are not baked into the story itself, in the version you told us about they seem like they’re just sort of bolted on to the sides. The rewrite incorporates them into essential portions of the story rather than superficial sub dressing.
I think an anime of matrix prequel would be outstanding
Well since the idea of a computer generated simulation is around since at least 1973s "Welt am Draht" both "Dark City" and "Matrix" probably just drew from similar inspirations.
Interesting
There are lines in the 2nd Matrix movie that are word-for-word taken from the novel: The Neverending Story.
3:00 the studio even used set assets from Dark City in the Matrix.
Excellent. It's arguable as well that they simply managed to come up with a greater concept using the good ideas they had, rather than specifically focusing on the 'bad elements' as the video concludes. thanks
They were handed a greater idea. Visit Milton Killer's channel. It presents the stolen material that made the Wachowskis famous.
I think the best change here was to fix "VR" ... I don't like how it was mentioned. The later version reversed it, since Neo does not go into VR, but out of it. So they "just" have to create a futuristic, destroyed earth and everything in "VR" aka Matrix is our real world with some superhuman abilities. This makes it comfortable to understand what it's like inside the matrix and nothing outside (the movies real world) is too abstract.
If there is anything hard to understand, it is what Neo, Morpheus and Agent Smith were. None of them were only humans or programs. They were part of a system that the Architect builds and the Oracle manipulates. Controlled freedom as the perfect prison. I think this is why "no one" liked Matrix 3, it needed a (non-repeating) end to that story, not just a big boss fight and happy end.