@zahirkhan-yq3gr like a jew kill a an innocent men and some testify against this crime he becomes a antisemite . So if a men sees only sunnis hold on bukhari before kuran and after kuran and and testify they have there guidance from bukhari the they have learned from the jews and from there bukhari books to call them ahadith rejectors ore kuranist. Allah created for the mutaqeen an imam and for sunni he created a book where you could fınd sunni bukhari muhammed wich had intercourse with a 9 years old mature girl with super intelligence mind, and non of the other nebis had such intercourse with young mature girls. So the imam for the muttaqeens never testify about such behavior of a any anbiya ore rasulallah.
@@thetru123thAli is trying to converse with people who study in the shisha bar. Imagine, this shisha bar guy wants to teach Ali about the Quran but rejects hadith and at the same time says he's not a hadith rejector and also at the same time considers other 3 " current" books as holy. What a strong shisha flavour
Brother Ali made an excellent points.... hadith rejection starts with your own desires and it ends with Quran rejection. May Allah swt protect and guide us all - ameen.
That is not true. Hadiths rejection starts with faith in al Qur'an and ends with rejection of illogical beliefs. Some ahadeeth are enormously problematic, bordering on disrespecting the Rasul. Those are the types of ahadeeth used but Chrisfian to attack Islam because they are just nonsensical. We MUST recognize and acceept that to weed out fabrication from truth.
@@Mokhil No because they are clearly false. What said is that ahadeeth of such type provide easy ammo to the enemies of Islam because they are so illogical.
@@saabajoe "easy ammo", so you basically admitted the brothers above assumption. Certain sahih hadith are viewed by you as problematic and disrepsectful to the prophet SAW image, and westerners use these hadith to attack the religion. Brother this is a problem with your faith and the influence these non-muslims have on you, not with the prophet alayhisalaam.
This conversation is so beneficial for me personally Alhamdulillah and I hope it’s the same for others. Even though I already believe both quran and hadith, but this conversation enlightens me more about the status of hadith. I really hope and pray to Allah this brother will open his heart and comes back to the true understanding of hadith and quran.
He rejects hadiths but believes in bible that was written by unknown authors, the amount of ignorance this guy has, May Allah reward brother Ali for his patience & may Allah guide us all to truth (Ameen)
@CLBOO6 oxviioixoxxiii Perhaps YOU will be kind enough to explain or highlight what is offensive in my comment/opinion...that is IF you addressed your opinion to me ? Thank you.
*“Obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. Should you disagree on anything, then refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if you ˹truly˺ believe in Allah and the Last Day.”* Everything they reject dismantled by this one verse Allahu akbar ☝️
This verse has specific context which refers to the distribution of the spoils of war !!@@@@ unfortunately it's being used to misguide Sunni Islam....very sad indeed😢
How would you know? Where does it refer to this in the quran? Where do you get the context from if it is not in the quran do you just make it up as you go along.
"Whatever the Messenger gives you, take it. And whatever he forbids you from, leave it. And fear Allah. Surely Allah is severe in punishment." Quran 59:7
@@darfvaderr2191 It is the correct context. The first half of the verse is talking about the gains granted by Allah from other lands. There is a "Waw" "و" "and" separating the first half of the verse from the second. The second half is general and not only about the first half. and the word "ataakum" "أتاكم" "gives you" doesn't only mean literally giving money, it includes the meaning "commands you" and the word "nahaakum" "نهاكم" "forbids you" is general and not only about forbidding taking money, it includes forbidden actions in general.
As for gains granted by Allah to His Messenger from the people of ˹other˺ lands, they are for Allah and the Messenger, his close relatives, orphans, the poor, and ˹needy˺ travellers so that wealth may not merely circulate among your rich. Whatever the Messenger gives you, take it. And whatever he forbids you from, leave it. And fear Allah. Surely Allah is severe in punishment.
key word "messenger". Messenger and prophet is not the same thing, a messenger's duty is to deliver the message which Allah says is the Quran. That's how we obey the messenger, and whatever the messenger says, is written inside of the message because Allah did not leave ANYTHING outside of the Book. And it is complete in its essence. Now show me why I'm wrong with Quran verses.
@@zySULTAN What are you talking about, Man? He's a messenger and a prophet. Allah calls "O, prophet" "يا أيها النبي" many times in the Qur'an. Have you even read the Qur'an? The ayah says "Whatever he gives you", "Whatever he forbids you" It doesn't say that it must be written in the Qur'an. The message is everything he commands or forbids, within or outside of the Qur'an. "Your fellow man is neither misguided nor astray. Nor does he speak of his own whims. It is only a revelation sent down ˹to him˺." "But no! By your Lord, they will never be ˹true˺ believers until they accept you ˹O Prophet˺ as the judge in their disputes, and find no resistance within themselves against your decision and submit wholeheartedly." "And they (the hypocrites) say, “We believe in Allah and the Messenger, and we obey.” Then a group of them turns away soon after that. These are not ˹true˺ believers. And as soon as they are called to Allah and His Messenger so he may judge between them, a group of them turns away. But if the truth is in their favour, they come to him, fully submitting. Is there a sickness in their hearts? Or are they in doubt? Or do they fear that Allah and His Messenger will be unjust to them? In fact, it is they who are the ˹true˺ wrongdoers. The only response of the ˹true˺ believers, when they are called to Allah and His Messenger so he may judge between them, is to say, “We hear and obey.” It is they who will ˹truly˺ succeed. For whoever obeys Allah and His Messenger, and fears Allah and is mindful of Him, then it is they who will ˹truly˺ triumph."
One side has memorised quran and understands the Quran in Arabic and gives accurate references and the other is blinded by his arrogance and misquoted the Quran. If only people adopted a humble sincere position but personal desires can be overwhelming.
If I am not mistaken. I have seen this guy years ago trying to argue about Islam. Now I see this guy again saying different things in contrast to years ago. May Allah guide him to the right path.
My favorite part was the microphone bit, dude says “I don’t have any microphones on” then Ali comes back with a quickness “you want one?” I love these videos!
@@panduvandal So you saying the Qur'an is lacking in wisdom and is not complete without another book bringing the rest of the Wisdom?🤦♂️ You guys claim the sunnah of the prophet Muhammad (SAW) is contained in hadith? So even if there was a concept as Sunnah of the prophet, sunnis have elevated the supposed sayings of the prophet and others to something that is authoritive to the level of fard and on par with Allah's ayahs. So basically a parallel set of commands from a co-authority or partner of God! 🤦♂️ This is shirk. This is getting just one step below doing like the Christians who says Jesus was the Son of God, sunnis have elevated the prophet Muhammad to partner of God, since. They believe the way he lived, believers are obligated to follow the same or they are 'out of the fold of Islam!' Where has God made anything else Fard, aside from following the way of Allah? Allāh has sent down the best statement (hadith: Read the Arabic): a consistent Book wherein is reiteration. The skins shiver therefrom of those who fear their Lord; then their skins and their hearts relax at the remembrance [i.e., mention] of Allāh. That is the guidance of Allāh by which He guides whom He wills. And one whom Allāh sends astray - for him there is no guide. (39:23) So the Qur'an is 1) The Best hadith 2) A consistent book 3) The Guidance of Allah 4) Of which he (Allah) guides who he wills Further reiterated in 28:56 Verily, you guide not whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills. And He knows best those who are the guided." 28:56 Self explanatory! No tafsirs needed! Any claim that the prophet Muhammad can guide and any such narrations about him are commands that are obligatory for muslims to follow is absolutely FALSE! Sectarians have made up their own religion based on hearsay and conjecture, unreliability transmitted by many different entities across a long time frame with zero consensus on what is and isn't authentic! 🤦♂️ So the messenger was incapable of completing his work and needed others to extract fragments of information via everyday speech and conversations between people to complete it? The wisdom (hikma) the messenger gained from Allah had to be transmitted this way but isn't found in the book which Allah directly revealed to the messenger? Make it make sense! 🤦♂️🤡 Testimonies cannot be included in scientific methodologies. This is sheer stupidity. The Hikmah is contained totally in Qur'an. It was not extracted from the messenger via everyday conversations embedded into testimonies written by others.
@@arbazkamaal3237 Ah really? I miss seeing him at speakers corner, he's mostly online now. Akhi he managed to get 6 Shahadas last night in his stream, and over 3.7k viewers SubhanAllah.
This brother is one of the best speakers of religion and one of the most knowledgeble person on all the main religions of the world , he is a wonderful man and his videos are always very informative and educational , his debating style is very different to the other speakers and is one of the best speakers on religion to ever speak at speakers corner, may ALLAH bless and reward this brother for all his efforts in giving dawah and educating the people, may ALLAH shower this brother with his endless blessings ..
@homtanks7259 I understand your point but he's not an atheist killer and even if he was, we're all children of Adam. He's a Muslim who rejects some hadith, any hadith that the Quran doesn't mention, and we should be praying Allah guides him to follow all authentic hadith
Subhaan Allah! It’s a sickness of the heart. If you read the Seerah you cannot but be compelled to love our Prophet (PBUH). Then how can you not follow the one you love? May Allah bless you my brother Muhammed Ali. May Allah guide us and the ignorant. Aameen.
He doesn't my family is like him they cherry pick and read here and there but mostly listen to youtube hadith rejectors tafsir on verses which have 0 wisdom and knowledge behind them. They're armchair scholars.@@Kashif-kq3vg
A simple question for the mushriks. On Judgement day, the transgressors will have the truth of their false beliefs revealed to them. According to mushrik lantern and his brothers in crime, the hadith and sunnah of the Messenger is an integral part for us to follow which cannot be denied or we are denigrated as arrogant and ignorant hadith rejecters. But what will the Messenger say on this Day and what will the transgressors, the mushriks, say they left that was so wrong? The hadith? The Sunnah? No! For those who have abandoned the Qur'an, here is what you will be judged upon: 25:27 When the Day comes, the transgressor will bite his hands in anguish, exclaiming, “Oh, I wish I had taken a path with the Messenger!" 25:28 “Oh, woe to me, I wish I hadn’t taken so and so for a friend!" 25:29 "Indeed he led me away from the Reminder after it had come to me. Ah, the Satan is but a traitor to the human being.” 25:30 And the Messenger will say, “O My Lord! These are my people who had abandoned this Qur’an as something to be neglected." 25:31 Thus We have made for every Prophet enemies among the guilty. But your Lord is Sufficient to guide and help. [6:112, 22:52-54] THE PATH OF THE MESSENGER IS QUR'AN ALONE. BUKHRIAN HADITH WORSHIPPERS ARE THE ENEMY OF THE MESSENGER, CONDEMNED BY HIS WORDS, HIS TRUE HADITH.
Very well said. This guy i dont know i just have to be civil with my comments. Great points from you my brother. Keep shining the light from Allah my brother muslim lantern
Subhanallah the amount of patience MA has is incredible. I flipped out several times just listening to this. May Allah grant myself first and Dawan guidance. The Hadith of rhe prophet about Arrogance comes to mind: Pride is disdaining the truth (out of self-conceit) and contempt for the people. (Sahih Muslim 91 a)
I spoke to a hadith rejector myself. They don’t give you answers for your questions and they don’t know the science nor the hadith. They only know the translation of the Quran.
Reciting the Quran incorrectly and saying it’s not important? This brother needs to understand how dangerous that is. That’s basically what happened to the message of Isa AS.
Hahaa. This guy got cornered by brother Muhammad Ali. At least the place was named right "speakers corner" where you can come and get rightfully cornered by Muslim brothers. Love this brother and how he holds his patience with cartoons like this guy
Well done brother may Allah bless you and give you more and more of His neverending bounties. I respect how civilised and calm you are during discussions and debates, something that I can't do.
The Prophet (pbuh) said, 'I have left behind two things. You will never go astray as long as you hold on to them ie the Quran and the Sunnah.' (Malik).
بارك الله فيكم... اللهم اغفر لوالدينا و ارحمهما و اجمعنا معهما في الفردوس الأعلى مع الأنبياء و الشهداء و الصالحين و جميع موتى المسلمين.. اللهم احقن دماء المسلمين و انصرهم على من عاداهم.. رب إني مسني الضر و أنت أرحم الراحمين... لا إله إلا أنت سبحانك إني كنت من الظالمين..... ............. :..................... . . .. . . . . . . . .
As someone new to Islam, I wish this could’ve been more of a back and forth conversation and less of a debate with the silly comments. I know brother Muhammad has dealt with many people from that same school of thought and probably lacks the patience to hear them out at this point however for those of us that are new, I think it would be beneficial to hear both parties out and see how he handles their doubts about the hadiths without all the semantics. Nonetheless, I appreciate the knowledge shared in this video
I wholeheartedly agree. I’ve watched maybe 30+ of his videos whether be debates or discussions, but you can see when one of those go astray from the purpose of the conversation - when someone gets triggered. Brother Muhammad said comments (that were funny tbh) and the other got offended by the audience laughing or agreeing with Muhammad (probably made him feel intimidated), so at this point he was listening to reply and not listening to learn. Why he was trying to score points. I understand where brother Muhammed is coming from, always felt like those who annoys him the most arent the christians or atheist, but the hadith rejectors. And honestly those type scare me, cause how are you muslim but not at the same time. Its like testifying that there is no other God than Allah (SWT), but I deny Muhammad. Blasphemy.
A simple question for the mushriks. On Judgement day, the transgressors will have the truth of their false beliefs revealed to them. According to mushrik lantern and his brothers in crime, the hadith and sunnah of the Messenger is an integral part for us to follow which cannot be denied or we are denigrated as arrogant and ignorant hadith rejecters. But what will the Messenger say on this Day and what will the transgressors, the mushriks, say they left that was so wrong? The hadith? The Sunnah? No! For those who have abandoned the Qur'an, here is what you will be judged upon: 25:27 When the Day comes, the transgressor will bite his hands in anguish, exclaiming, “Oh, I wish I had taken a path with the Messenger!" 25:28 “Oh, woe to me, I wish I hadn’t taken so and so for a friend!" 25:29 "Indeed he led me away from the Reminder after it had come to me. Ah, the Satan is but a traitor to the human being.” 25:30 And the Messenger will say, “O My Lord! These are my people who had abandoned this Qur’an as something to be neglected." 25:31 Thus We have made for every Prophet enemies among the guilty. But your Lord is Sufficient to guide and help. [6:112, 22:52-54] THE PATH OF THE MESSENGER IS QUR'AN ALONE. BUKHRIAN HADITH WORSHIPPERS ARE THE ENEMY OF THE MESSENGER, CONDEMNED BY HIS WORDS, HIS TRUE HADITH.
The Quran doesnt teach u how to read Salah but instructs every muslim to read Salah, the hadith teaches u the physical way to read Salah and how to stand were ur hands should b and at what stage to go into rakoo and sajda, which we wouldnt know without hadith, this is a simple example why we need hadith and why Quranist only like this guy are wrong ignorant and misguided about the importance of hadith.. brother Muhammad very beautifuly explains the importance of hadith by giving clear examples and information. May ALLAH bless and reward brother Muhammad for all his efforts in giving dawah to the people and may ALLAH shower him with his endless blessings
Like it or not, Hadiths are the only reason Islam is intact. It will not take them more than half of century to start praying as they want if Hadiths are taking out altogether.
i really like listening to brother Ali explanation. he just straight to the point everytime and doesnt entertaining the beat around the bush kinda opponent. he cut off the BS when he smell it just like brother hamza
A simple question for the mushriks. On Judgement day, the transgressors will have the truth of their false beliefs revealed to them. According to mushrik lantern and his brothers in crime, the hadith and sunnah of the Messenger is an integral part for us to follow which cannot be denied or we are denigrated as arrogant and ignorant hadith rejecters. But what will the Messenger say on this Day and what will the transgressors, the mushriks, say they left that was so wrong? The hadith? The Sunnah? No! For those who have abandoned the Qur'an, here is what you will be judged upon: 25:27 When the Day comes, the transgressor will bite his hands in anguish, exclaiming, “Oh, I wish I had taken a path with the Messenger!" 25:28 “Oh, woe to me, I wish I hadn’t taken so and so for a friend!" 25:29 "Indeed he led me away from the Reminder after it had come to me. Ah, the Satan is but a traitor to the human being.” 25:30 And the Messenger will say, “O My Lord! These are my people who had abandoned this Qur’an as something to be neglected." 25:31 Thus We have made for every Prophet enemies among the guilty. But your Lord is Sufficient to guide and help. [6:112, 22:52-54] THE PATH OF THE MESSENGER IS QUR'AN ALONE. BUKHRIAN HADITH WORSHIPPERS ARE THE ENEMY OF THE MESSENGER, CONDEMNED BY HIS WORDS, HIS TRUE HADITH.
I see less politeness from brother Muhammad towards this person. Reading Qur'an 4 times shows the guy loves Qur'an and I agree it's still possible there are certain things you didn't understand clearly. When a Muslim reads Qur'an for the sake of love of Qur'an and as Ibadah we move forward from the verse. We know we're still rewarded. The person pointed out Muhammad brothers behaviour which I agree to some extent. This is what I felt. May Allah guide us all
It is also less politeness to making up things you don't have proves of, it's most ignorant and rude to claim to be misquoting the Qur'an and same time claiming to rely on only the Qur'an, it is rude to just follow your whims even though there is clear cut prove before you. Qur'an is not Book any one should joke with
@@hartwo-001 I agree about them being ignorant but I don't see them making jokes in this video. I just noticed brother Muhammad's behaviour bit different here so expressed my opinion and i could definitely be wrong. I love him and pray for him whenever he comes to my mind. He many times is the reason to increase my Imaan alhamdulillah.
@@TheIslamicknowledgeCentre may Allah guide us all in our affairs. My point is that one cannot claim to be relying on Qur'an when he doesn't even know what the Qur'an teaches or says. It is impolite and rude to be misquoting Qur'an verses. If someone claims to be "Qur'anist" they should at least learn the Qur'an. We take Qur'an for granted. These people claim to be Qur'anist and they cannot even read it properly, reject hadiths and at same time make up their own interpretations. AND THE WORST PART OF IT IS WHEN YOU TRY TO CORRECT THEIR RECITATION THEY GET ANGRY OR EVEN SHOWS ITS NOT THAT IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE VERSES CORRECTLY
@@hartwo-001 Ameen, I agree with you and i really for sorry for these guys when I see they have difficulty understanding simple and clear things. May Allah guide us and protect us all. Aameen!
48:42, that moment when he realises his whole world view crumbles so looks to the camera with fear. you're insincere and stubborn. Don't come to the park to waste your own time and other's.
“So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah ," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn.” حسبنا كتاب الله
I am a layman and english is my third languange, but I clearly understand with the evidence that brother muhammad ali give us. In the middle of the video I confused why this man can not understand.. But what brother muhammad said about he want to follow his desire.. I think I get it now
Muhammad hit the nail on the head. These rejector reject based on a desire to do something that's unislamic. Drink alcohol, not wear hijab, listen to music, etc.
Always be patient with others don't know what you know and have good way to teach this conversation is good but I am shucks there is people don't take hadith that means Islam is short for them may Allah guide them
As a person who loves and benefitted from brother Muhamad I have to say this; The hadeeth says make 70 excuses for ur brothers/sisters in Islam. Islam also teaches us not to mock others. Just because this brothers stance is nonsensical, doesnt mean making fun will help him learn and change his mind. And the only reason I am even writing this is because the Quran tell us to stand up for righteousness/justice, no matter with whom.
When someone tells you that he has read the Quran 4 times and you repeat what he said it is not meant to mock but rather it is telling the truth..If you feel like mocked that is your problem..
@@QairulIzhar your replying to an 8 month year old comment. I don't even remember what it's about. Take your straw man (my comment doesn't mention what your comment alleges) and hostility elsewhere.
@@phantomtr1 Read your comment again..you say bro muhammad making fun to this brother..you just make a claim without giving any proof of what you say..
He does not care about the truth, he just wants to be right.
Subhanallah.
Well done brother Ali, may Allah reward you.
@zahirkhan-yq3gr like a jew kill a an innocent men and some testify against this crime he becomes a antisemite .
So if a men sees only sunnis hold on bukhari before kuran and after kuran and and testify they have there guidance from bukhari the they have learned from the jews and from there bukhari books to call them ahadith rejectors ore kuranist.
Allah created for the mutaqeen an imam and for sunni he created a book where you could fınd sunni bukhari muhammed wich had intercourse with a 9 years old mature girl with super intelligence mind, and non of the other nebis had such intercourse with young mature girls. So the imam for the muttaqeens never testify about such behavior of a any anbiya ore rasulallah.
The most of the people in earth only follow there own thoughts.
Good marketing doesnt make a story truth
Ali telling you lies
@@thetru123th What are lies Ali said and can you provide evidence for the lies and provide the truth then
@@thetru123thAli is trying to converse with people who study in the shisha bar. Imagine, this shisha bar guy wants to teach Ali about the Quran but rejects hadith and at the same time says he's not a hadith rejector and also at the same time considers other 3 " current" books as holy. What a strong shisha flavour
Ego & ignorance are the worst enemy
You mean ‘best friends’?!
God hates arrogant people. Main reason that Affirmative heaven action people are so wrong and arrogant.
@@lml7worst enemies pretending to be friends
Brother Ali made an excellent points.... hadith rejection starts with your own desires and it ends with Quran rejection. May Allah swt protect and guide us all - ameen.
That is not true. Hadiths rejection starts with faith in al Qur'an and ends with rejection of illogical beliefs. Some ahadeeth are enormously problematic, bordering on disrespecting the Rasul. Those are the types of ahadeeth used but Chrisfian to attack Islam because they are just nonsensical. We MUST recognize and acceept that to weed out fabrication from truth.
@@saabajoe Let me see if I get it right. You have problem with some ahadith because Chritians tease you?
@@Mokhil No because they are clearly false. What said is that ahadeeth of such type provide easy ammo to the enemies of Islam because they are so illogical.
@@saabajoe give us a false hadith according to your belief
@@saabajoe "easy ammo", so you basically admitted the brothers above assumption. Certain sahih hadith are viewed by you as problematic and disrepsectful to the prophet SAW image, and westerners use these hadith to attack the religion.
Brother this is a problem with your faith and the influence these non-muslims have on you, not with the prophet alayhisalaam.
This conversation is so beneficial for me personally Alhamdulillah and I hope it’s the same for others. Even though I already believe both quran and hadith, but this conversation enlightens me more about the status of hadith. I really hope and pray to Allah this brother will open his heart and comes back to the true understanding of hadith and quran.
Same here. Alhamdulillah
Inshallah.
How do you make wudu.
Same here .
Same Alhamdulillah, Ameen
The Lantern came. But the Rejector couldn't deal with the light.
underrated 😅👍
😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌👌
The Lantern came, but the rejector couldn't deal with the clames.
@@MuslimCatthethird whatever you do, don't do comedy
He rejects hadiths but believes in bible that was written by unknown authors, the amount of ignorance this guy has, May Allah reward brother Ali for his patience & may Allah guide us all to truth (Ameen)
Yeah but people are fallible lol
This fool knew he was wrong, well done brother Ali
09:52 What brother Ali said holds weight. SubhanAllah. Alhamdulillah for the reminder(s)
fool or hommos?
just kidding 🤓
@shus5787 oxvioxoxxiii This impatient argumentative 'know-little' dude, is most likely a Shia, has been in this Hyde Park Circus before.
Please refrain from using offensive word brother.
@CLBOO6 oxviioixoxxiii Perhaps YOU will be kind enough to explain or highlight what is offensive in my comment/opinion...that is IF you addressed your opinion to me ?
Thank you.
*“Obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. Should you disagree on anything, then refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if you ˹truly˺ believe in Allah and the Last Day.”*
Everything they reject dismantled by this one verse Allahu akbar ☝️
This verse has specific context which refers to the distribution of the spoils of war !!@@@@ unfortunately it's being used to misguide Sunni Islam....very sad indeed😢
How would you know? Where does it refer to this in the quran? Where do you get the context from if it is not in the quran do you just make it up as you go along.
@@karriemjonathan2860So you added your words to the Glorious Qur’an, which is already completed. Wallahi, you hadith-rejectors are played by Shaytan.
So many evidences brother Muhammad provided..but the quranist still reject it without any evidenve
Barakallaahu feekum for this video brothers
don’t call “hadith rejectors”, “Quranists”, they do not follow the Quran.
@@muslimresponse103 ,❤❤
"Whatever the Messenger gives you, take it. And whatever he forbids you from, leave it. And fear Allah. Surely Allah is severe in punishment." Quran 59:7
Now quote the whole verse and give us the correct context.
@@darfvaderr2191 It is the correct context. The first half of the verse is talking about the gains granted by Allah from other lands. There is a "Waw" "و" "and" separating the first half of the verse from the second. The second half is general and not only about the first half. and the word "ataakum" "أتاكم" "gives you" doesn't only mean literally giving money, it includes the meaning "commands you" and the word "nahaakum" "نهاكم" "forbids you" is general and not only about forbidding taking money, it includes forbidden actions in general.
As for gains granted by Allah to His Messenger from the people of ˹other˺ lands, they are for Allah and the Messenger, his close relatives, orphans, the poor, and ˹needy˺ travellers so that wealth may not merely circulate among your rich. Whatever the Messenger gives you, take it. And whatever he forbids you from, leave it. And fear Allah. Surely Allah is severe in punishment.
key word "messenger". Messenger and prophet is not the same thing, a messenger's duty is to deliver the message which Allah says is the Quran. That's how we obey the messenger, and whatever the messenger says, is written inside of the message because Allah did not leave ANYTHING outside of the Book. And it is complete in its essence. Now show me why I'm wrong with Quran verses.
@@zySULTAN What are you talking about, Man?
He's a messenger and a prophet.
Allah calls "O, prophet" "يا أيها النبي" many times in the Qur'an.
Have you even read the Qur'an?
The ayah says "Whatever he gives you", "Whatever he forbids you"
It doesn't say that it must be written in the Qur'an.
The message is everything he commands or forbids, within or outside of the Qur'an.
"Your fellow man is neither misguided nor astray. Nor does he speak of his own whims. It is only a revelation sent down ˹to him˺."
"But no! By your Lord, they will never be ˹true˺ believers until they accept you ˹O Prophet˺ as the judge in their disputes, and find no resistance within themselves against your decision and submit wholeheartedly."
"And they (the hypocrites) say, “We believe in Allah and the Messenger, and we obey.” Then a group of them turns away soon after that. These are not ˹true˺ believers. And as soon as they are called to Allah and His Messenger so he may judge between them, a group of them turns away. But if the truth is in their favour, they come to him, fully submitting. Is there a sickness in their hearts? Or are they in doubt? Or do they fear that Allah and His Messenger will be unjust to them? In fact, it is they who are the ˹true˺ wrongdoers. The only response of the ˹true˺ believers, when they are called to Allah and His Messenger so he may judge between them, is to say, “We hear and obey.” It is they who will ˹truly˺ succeed. For whoever obeys Allah and His Messenger, and fears Allah and is mindful of Him, then it is they who will ˹truly˺ triumph."
How can people be so confident saying things they didn't know? 🤔
You will find Jahel are generally overconfident. That's true for every area of life.
that's why Abu Jahl died as a disbeliever
@@_ibnmuhammad😂😂😂😂
Thats exactly what rejection looks like, its terrifying. May Allah guide us and keep us steadfast on the right path until we return to him.
Ameen🤲🏾
One side has memorised quran and understands the Quran in Arabic and gives accurate references and the other is blinded by his arrogance and misquoted the Quran. If only people adopted a humble sincere position but personal desires can be overwhelming.
If I am not mistaken. I have seen this guy years ago trying to argue about Islam. Now I see this guy again saying different things in contrast to years ago. May Allah guide him to the right path.
My favorite part was the microphone bit, dude says “I don’t have any microphones on” then Ali comes back with a quickness “you want one?” I love these videos!
He studied the holy Quran 4 times and he doesn’t know what Hikmah means. Subhanallah
What does it mean?
@@darfvaderr2191 it was explained in The video.
Are you clueless or your searching for unnecessary arguments?
@@mrsolo2859 Do you believe the Hikma is the hadith? 🤦♂️
@@darfvaderr2191a part of it, yes
@@panduvandal So you saying the Qur'an is lacking in wisdom and is not complete without another book bringing the rest of the Wisdom?🤦♂️
You guys claim the sunnah of the prophet Muhammad (SAW) is contained in hadith? So even if there was a concept as Sunnah of the prophet, sunnis have elevated the supposed sayings of the prophet and others to something that is authoritive to the level of fard and on par with Allah's ayahs. So basically a parallel set of commands from a co-authority or partner of God! 🤦♂️
This is shirk. This is getting just one step below doing like the Christians who says Jesus was the Son of God, sunnis have elevated the prophet Muhammad to partner of God, since. They believe the way he lived, believers are obligated to follow the same or they are 'out of the fold of Islam!' Where has God made anything else Fard, aside from following the way of Allah?
Allāh has sent down the best statement (hadith: Read the Arabic): a consistent Book wherein is reiteration. The skins shiver therefrom of those who fear their Lord; then their skins and their hearts relax at the remembrance [i.e., mention] of Allāh. That is the guidance of Allāh by which He guides whom He wills. And one whom Allāh sends astray - for him there is no guide. (39:23)
So the Qur'an is
1) The Best hadith
2) A consistent book
3) The Guidance of Allah
4) Of which he (Allah) guides who he wills
Further reiterated in 28:56
Verily, you guide not whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills. And He knows best those who are the guided." 28:56
Self explanatory! No tafsirs needed!
Any claim that the prophet Muhammad can guide and any such narrations about him are commands that are obligatory for muslims to follow is absolutely FALSE!
Sectarians have made up their own religion based on hearsay and conjecture, unreliability transmitted by many different entities across a long time frame with zero consensus on what is and isn't authentic! 🤦♂️
So the messenger was incapable of completing his work and needed others to extract fragments of information via everyday speech and conversations between people to complete it? The wisdom (hikma) the messenger gained from Allah had to be transmitted this way but isn't found in the book which Allah directly revealed to the messenger? Make it make sense! 🤦♂️🤡
Testimonies cannot be included in scientific methodologies.
This is sheer stupidity. The Hikmah is contained totally in Qur'an. It was not extracted from the messenger via everyday conversations embedded into testimonies written by others.
Muhammed Ali back in the park doing Dawah MashAllah! Alhamdulillah for Islam ☝️
No its an old video
@@arbazkamaal3237 Ah really? I miss seeing him at speakers corner, he's mostly online now. Akhi he managed to get 6 Shahadas last night in his stream, and over 3.7k viewers SubhanAllah.
seen this video like 7+ months ago, old vid.
imagine M.Ali today, even better in knowledge 👍🏻
@@Mr.Liam. allahu akbar
@@Mr.Liam. where does he stream? On youtube or twitch or somewhere else?
If mental gymnastics was a Olympic sport this guy would be a gold medalist.😅
Brother Muhammad Ali motivates me to learn more about the deen. He's soo good.🤲
May Allah open his Heart, eyes, and mind to the truth ... Ameen
This brother is one of the best speakers of religion and one of the most knowledgeble person on all the main religions of the world , he is a wonderful man and his videos are always very informative and educational , his debating style is very different to the other speakers and is one of the best speakers on religion to ever speak at speakers corner, may ALLAH bless and reward this brother for all his efforts in giving dawah and educating the people, may ALLAH shower this brother with his endless blessings ..
Amin🤲
They call themself Hadith Rejector but can't recite the Quran propperly? By Allah where did we end?
May Allah swt guide him and us all.
Subhanallah, this brother is stubborn even when he sees the truth
Brother? 🤨
@@homtanks7259 brother in humanity
@@Shadow_1027 we need to stop this , would you call a militant atheist also brother ? I would never call a disbeliever brother. I hope u get my point
@homtanks7259 I understand your point but he's not an atheist killer and even if he was, we're all children of Adam. He's a Muslim who rejects some hadith, any hadith that the Quran doesn't mention, and we should be praying Allah guides him to follow all authentic hadith
@@Shadow_1027 I don't think you getting my point
Subhaan Allah! It’s a sickness of the heart. If you read the Seerah you cannot but be compelled to love our Prophet (PBUH). Then how can you not follow the one you love? May Allah bless you my brother Muhammed Ali. May Allah guide us and the ignorant. Aameen.
He said four ...but I'm not convinced
He doesn't my family is like him they cherry pick and read here and there but mostly listen to youtube hadith rejectors tafsir on verses which have 0 wisdom and knowledge behind them. They're armchair scholars.@@Kashif-kq3vg
Masha'Allaah brother Muhammad Ali....these people follow their whims and desires...their ignorance is so evident
We really need brother's like Muhammad Ali!..may Allah be please with him. Aamin ❤️
This is the best ever explanation and arguments to the quran only. May Allah bless you brother.
A simple question for the mushriks. On Judgement day, the transgressors will have the truth of their false beliefs revealed to them. According to mushrik lantern and his brothers in crime, the hadith and sunnah of the Messenger is an integral part for us to follow which cannot be denied or we are denigrated as arrogant and ignorant hadith rejecters. But what will the Messenger say on this Day and what will the transgressors, the mushriks, say they left that was so wrong? The hadith? The Sunnah? No! For those who have abandoned the Qur'an, here is what you will be judged upon:
25:27 When the Day comes, the transgressor will bite his hands in anguish, exclaiming, “Oh, I wish I had taken a path with the Messenger!"
25:28 “Oh, woe to me, I wish I hadn’t taken so and so for a friend!"
25:29 "Indeed he led me away from the Reminder after it had come to me. Ah, the Satan is but a traitor to the human being.”
25:30 And the Messenger will say, “O My Lord! These are my people who had abandoned this Qur’an as something to be neglected."
25:31 Thus We have made for every Prophet enemies among the guilty. But your Lord is Sufficient to guide and help. [6:112, 22:52-54]
THE PATH OF THE MESSENGER IS QUR'AN ALONE. BUKHRIAN HADITH WORSHIPPERS ARE THE ENEMY OF THE MESSENGER, CONDEMNED BY HIS WORDS, HIS TRUE HADITH.
@@truehikmaunder every comment 😂😂😂. If you want to understand verses which you wrote go look to hadiths 😂😂
I learnt a lot from this jazakallah
Assalamu alikum o brothers and sisters in Islam.
MashahAllah brother Ali. Good work brother
Wa alaykumus Salaam, may u b blessed. It is spelt ma sha Allaah, the Arabic spelling being ما شاء الله
@@KyronRevert Assalamu alikum brother or sister. Jazakallah
@@sakhiramezani8726 wa alaykumus salaam, wa iyyaak
Very well said. This guy i dont know i just have to be civil with my comments. Great points from you my brother. Keep shining the light from Allah my brother muslim lantern
Subhanallah the amount of patience MA has is incredible. I flipped out several times just listening to this. May Allah grant myself first and Dawan guidance.
The Hadith of rhe prophet about Arrogance comes to mind:
Pride is disdaining the truth (out of self-conceit) and contempt for the people.
(Sahih Muslim 91 a)
I spoke to a hadith rejector myself. They don’t give you answers for your questions and they don’t know the science nor the hadith. They only know the translation of the Quran.
In B&Q i purchased a 4x2 plank of wood, this guy reminds me of that.
Except the 2x4 is useful
😂😂😂😂
Masha allah Muhammed Ali. May Allah bless u.
Ma sha Allah. May Almighty Allah give you good health brother Mohammad Ali
Reciting the Quran incorrectly and saying it’s not important? This brother needs to understand how dangerous that is. That’s basically what happened to the message of Isa AS.
Hahaa. This guy got cornered by brother Muhammad Ali. At least the place was named right "speakers corner" where you can come and get rightfully cornered by Muslim brothers. Love this brother and how he holds his patience with cartoons like this guy
Barakallahu Feek Mohammad Ali. Masha Allaah you schooled the Rejector of Sunnah.
May Allah bless you brother Muhammad Ali
Well done brother may Allah bless you and give you more and more of His neverending bounties. I respect how civilised and calm you are during discussions and debates, something that I can't do.
I really admire your patience , these kind of fools really make your blood boil lol
It always amazes me how these Quran only folks know so little about the Quran and yet are so confident in their ignorance.
The Prophet (pbuh) said, 'I have left behind two things. You will never go astray as long as you hold on to them ie the Quran and the Sunnah.'
(Malik).
brother arguing for the sake of arguing and too scared for his self image... May Allah guide him.
بارك الله فيكم...
اللهم اغفر لوالدينا و ارحمهما و اجمعنا معهما في الفردوس الأعلى مع الأنبياء و الشهداء و الصالحين و جميع موتى المسلمين..
اللهم احقن دماء المسلمين و انصرهم على من عاداهم..
رب إني مسني الضر و أنت أرحم الراحمين...
لا إله إلا أنت سبحانك إني كنت من الظالمين.....
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آمین یا رب العالمین
That was a dissect with a blunt knife, amazing
This guy thought he knows everything.. until he met brother Ali who is so patient!
15:40 "On what basis do you reject one and accept the other?" The hadith rejector has no answer.
جزاكم الله خيرا❤
SubhanAllah, he accuses the brother Ali of jumping around but he is the one jumpting through hoops to miss the point. May Allah guide him.
💢MashaAllah
Well done Muhmmad Ali
May Allah bless you and increase you in guidance and
May Allah bless and guide Dawan 💢
Be more humble. We Muslims are losing this important trait.
Allah bless these brothers.
No one can treat a person affected with the disease of arrogance except ALLAH. May ALLAH guide this person Dawam...aameen
Blah di blah di blah blah! Poor young man. So much passion in his rejection, with little knowledge of what he accepts. May he be guided, Ameen ❤
very helpful content.
Love from Bangladesh❤
As someone new to Islam, I wish this could’ve been more of a back and forth conversation and less of a debate with the silly comments. I know brother Muhammad has dealt with many people from that same school of thought and probably lacks the patience to hear them out at this point however for those of us that are new, I think it would be beneficial to hear both parties out and see how he handles their doubts about the hadiths without all the semantics. Nonetheless, I appreciate the knowledge shared in this video
I wholeheartedly agree. I’ve watched maybe 30+ of his videos whether be debates or discussions, but you can see when one of those go astray from the purpose of the conversation - when someone gets triggered. Brother Muhammad said comments (that were funny tbh) and the other got offended by the audience laughing or agreeing with Muhammad (probably made him feel intimidated), so at this point he was listening to reply and not listening to learn. Why he was trying to score points. I understand where brother Muhammed is coming from, always felt like those who annoys him the most arent the christians or atheist, but the hadith rejectors. And honestly those type scare me, cause how are you muslim but not at the same time. Its like testifying that there is no other God than Allah (SWT), but I deny Muhammad. Blasphemy.
Everytime dawan comes with another point he digs another hole for himself to fall in😅
Dawan needs to do one.
Debate is note about straching your point like ilastic it's about providing avidence of your claim and answer your apponents questions
Very good points Allahumma Barek JazakaAllah khairan
Cannot argue with a jaahil , brother Muhammad
@@homtanks7259
Put a come befor : Brother Muhammad
He was giving a masterclass imo
A simple question for the mushriks. On Judgement day, the transgressors will have the truth of their false beliefs revealed to them. According to mushrik lantern and his brothers in crime, the hadith and sunnah of the Messenger is an integral part for us to follow which cannot be denied or we are denigrated as arrogant and ignorant hadith rejecters. But what will the Messenger say on this Day and what will the transgressors, the mushriks, say they left that was so wrong? The hadith? The Sunnah? No! For those who have abandoned the Qur'an, here is what you will be judged upon:
25:27 When the Day comes, the transgressor will bite his hands in anguish, exclaiming, “Oh, I wish I had taken a path with the Messenger!"
25:28 “Oh, woe to me, I wish I hadn’t taken so and so for a friend!"
25:29 "Indeed he led me away from the Reminder after it had come to me. Ah, the Satan is but a traitor to the human being.”
25:30 And the Messenger will say, “O My Lord! These are my people who had abandoned this Qur’an as something to be neglected."
25:31 Thus We have made for every Prophet enemies among the guilty. But your Lord is Sufficient to guide and help. [6:112, 22:52-54]
THE PATH OF THE MESSENGER IS QUR'AN ALONE. BUKHRIAN HADITH WORSHIPPERS ARE THE ENEMY OF THE MESSENGER, CONDEMNED BY HIS WORDS, HIS TRUE HADITH.
Subahana Allah bro Md Ali i wish to see you in this life or in jannah,aminn...
The Quran doesnt teach u how to read Salah but instructs every muslim to read Salah, the hadith teaches u the physical way to read Salah and how to stand were ur hands should b and at what stage to go into rakoo and sajda, which we wouldnt know without hadith, this is a simple example why we need hadith and why Quranist only like this guy are wrong ignorant and misguided about the importance of hadith.. brother Muhammad very beautifuly explains the importance of hadith by giving clear examples and information. May ALLAH bless and reward brother Muhammad for all his efforts in giving dawah to the people and may ALLAH shower him with his endless blessings
جزاكم الله خيراً
Brother you are doing best job
You are wasting your precious time on these type of people
This disease of hadith rejection is spreading so debates like this are important brother
May Allāh preserve the Ustadh Muhammad Ali, he is such a knowledgeable and humble person and may he be increased in these as well.
Āmīn
That was sad to watch. May Allah guide us all and shower his rahma on us. Ameen.
May Allah guide this man. AMEEN
Like it or not, Hadiths are the only reason Islam is intact. It will not take them more than half of century to start praying as they want if Hadiths are taking out altogether.
جزاكم الله خيرا
i really like listening to brother Ali explanation. he just straight to the point everytime and doesnt entertaining the beat around the bush kinda opponent. he cut off the BS when he smell it just like brother hamza
may Allah ﷻ guide to Islam or wipe out these hadith rejectors and their evil ideology/methodology! 🤲🏻 ameen.
A simple question for the mushriks. On Judgement day, the transgressors will have the truth of their false beliefs revealed to them. According to mushrik lantern and his brothers in crime, the hadith and sunnah of the Messenger is an integral part for us to follow which cannot be denied or we are denigrated as arrogant and ignorant hadith rejecters. But what will the Messenger say on this Day and what will the transgressors, the mushriks, say they left that was so wrong? The hadith? The Sunnah? No! For those who have abandoned the Qur'an, here is what you will be judged upon:
25:27 When the Day comes, the transgressor will bite his hands in anguish, exclaiming, “Oh, I wish I had taken a path with the Messenger!"
25:28 “Oh, woe to me, I wish I hadn’t taken so and so for a friend!"
25:29 "Indeed he led me away from the Reminder after it had come to me. Ah, the Satan is but a traitor to the human being.”
25:30 And the Messenger will say, “O My Lord! These are my people who had abandoned this Qur’an as something to be neglected."
25:31 Thus We have made for every Prophet enemies among the guilty. But your Lord is Sufficient to guide and help. [6:112, 22:52-54]
THE PATH OF THE MESSENGER IS QUR'AN ALONE. BUKHRIAN HADITH WORSHIPPERS ARE THE ENEMY OF THE MESSENGER, CONDEMNED BY HIS WORDS, HIS TRUE HADITH.
An najm 3. Nor does he speak of (his own) desire.
4. It is only an Inspiration that is inspired
So beneficial, now I know how to answer if I get asked, thanks M Ali
I see less politeness from brother Muhammad towards this person. Reading Qur'an 4 times shows the guy loves Qur'an and I agree it's still possible there are certain things you didn't understand clearly. When a Muslim reads Qur'an for the sake of love of Qur'an and as Ibadah we move forward from the verse. We know we're still rewarded. The person pointed out Muhammad brothers behaviour which I agree to some extent. This is what I felt. May Allah guide us all
It is also less politeness to making up things you don't have proves of, it's most ignorant and rude to claim to be misquoting the Qur'an and same time claiming to rely on only the Qur'an, it is rude to just follow your whims even though there is clear cut prove before you. Qur'an is not Book any one should joke with
@@hartwo-001 I agree about them being ignorant but I don't see them making jokes in this video. I just noticed brother Muhammad's behaviour bit different here so expressed my opinion and i could definitely be wrong. I love him and pray for him whenever he comes to my mind. He many times is the reason to increase my Imaan alhamdulillah.
@@TheIslamicknowledgeCentre may Allah guide us all in our affairs. My point is that one cannot claim to be relying on Qur'an when he doesn't even know what the Qur'an teaches or says. It is impolite and rude to be misquoting Qur'an verses. If someone claims to be "Qur'anist" they should at least learn the Qur'an. We take Qur'an for granted. These people claim to be Qur'anist and they cannot even read it properly, reject hadiths and at same time make up their own interpretations. AND THE WORST PART OF IT IS WHEN YOU TRY TO CORRECT THEIR RECITATION THEY GET ANGRY OR EVEN SHOWS ITS NOT THAT IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE VERSES CORRECTLY
@@hartwo-001 Ameen, I agree with you and i really for sorry for these guys when I see they have difficulty understanding simple and clear things. May Allah guide us and protect us all. Aameen!
My worry with him is that he refused to accept the correction when he was advised to quote the Quran properly.
Everything hadith deniers do no like
"It is an assumption"
Wallahi it's so sad to hear from this hadhith rejector. He has no knowledge. May Allah guide him and All Hadith rejector ya Rab
48:42, that moment when he realises his whole world view crumbles so looks to the camera with fear. you're insincere and stubborn. Don't come to the park to waste your own time and other's.
"I've read the Qur'an 4 time", but didn't understand a word of it. Absolute joke
Why do people that are ignorant keep arguing when they clearly are out of their depth
“So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah ," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn.”
حسبنا كتاب الله
May Allah give me the patience of this Muslim brother 🤲🏻
I am a layman and english is my third languange, but I clearly understand with the evidence that brother muhammad ali give us. In the middle of the video I confused why this man can not understand.. But what brother muhammad said about he want to follow his desire.. I think I get it now
arrogance and or a disease in his heart(the soul of the heart)
The arrogance in the zindeeq is uncanny
Muhammad hit the nail on the head. These rejector reject based on a desire to do something that's unislamic. Drink alcohol, not wear hijab, listen to music, etc.
بارك الله فيك
I don’t think he’s Muslim rather reading Quran just to argue
WallahuAlam
Br Ali is full-of knowledge man. Alhamdulillah.
Always be patient with others don't know what you know and have good way to teach this conversation is good but I am shucks there is people don't take hadith that means Islam is short for them may Allah guide them
This man doesn't want to be wrong that's his only argument
Quran is test for those who doubt and sign for those who reflect subhanallah
DawahWise and The Muslim Lantern collaboration 👀👌🏻 I need more 😅
Ask these people to find the first Kalima , the building block of every Muslim's faith, in Quran. Which Surah?
I found it so funny when Muhammad kept hammering on the “I read the Quran 4 times” point 😂😂😂
Its amazing how someone who has no knowledge in hadith,Quran,language and logic then he debates theology, history and sciences of the Quran.
When something is torpedoed it normally results in complete destruction, at least he was humble enough to admit that fact.
Quran doesn’t say anything about praying 5 times a day ..only be found in Hadith.. am I right.
As a person who loves and benefitted from brother Muhamad I have to say this; The hadeeth says make 70 excuses for ur brothers/sisters in Islam. Islam also teaches us not to mock others. Just because this brothers stance is nonsensical, doesnt mean making fun will help him learn and change his mind.
And the only reason I am even writing this is because the Quran tell us to stand up for righteousness/justice, no matter with whom.
When someone tells you that he has read the Quran 4 times and you repeat what he said it is not meant to mock but rather it is telling the truth..If you feel like mocked that is your problem..
@@QairulIzhar your replying to an 8 month year old comment. I don't even remember what it's about.
Take your straw man (my comment doesn't mention what your comment alleges) and hostility elsewhere.
@@phantomtr1 Read your comment again..you say bro muhammad making fun to this brother..you just make a claim without giving any proof of what you say..
You mean I didn't provide a specific example. But the solution isn't making one up yourself. @@QairulIzhar
@@phantomtr1 You are like the man in the video..when asked a question like "have you eaten?" and you answered "my father drives a Mercedes" haha..
Brothers 52:00 the reference is 16:44 not 43, brother Ali mistakenly I think said 43. Just for the brothers/sisters looking for the right reference
I have only one word for this man: UNBELIEVABLE