Thanks for your detailed review and sorry for all the problems you had discovering the issues. However, for me, this makes buying this unit 100% great deal, because as long as I know about the problems ahead of time, they are easy to compensate for. Hooking up a proper shop vacuum should take care of dust and laser issues, and there is another video where someone figured out how to adjust the laser to increase accuracy. If you can't justify spending money on a professional model, I think dealing with these problems (once you know about them) is acceptable, IMHO :) Thanks again for your detailed review!
Thanks Mike. You are right. Especially for skilled user this would not be a major issue ordeal with. The only concern I would have in this case though is the issue of blade guard getting stuck. From what I read on Amazon I'm not the only one who experienced it and the other guy was not so lucky and got injured lightly. Thanks a lot for watching and your comment.
@@weekendwarrior_ based on your review, I opted for the extra 2 year warranty for $14, just because of the plastic guard issue you described. Thanks again!
Cleary, the limitations are because this is a budget device. Comments about pro's putting in the bin are nonesense as pro's wouldn't buy a cheap tool. You cannot blame the manufacturer because you didn't read the instructions. Play in the measurements are something to consider but again, this is due to the price. If you want high quality, you have to pay for it. The safety cover is a major concern though.
I have the twin of this saw in an Aldi workzone version. It's a basic and underwhelming power tool ( but actually is very powerful at 1800watts) , but I've tweaked it a bit to get the best from it. For the problem of those ridiculous plastic pins that break on every single one of these type off saws ( if u look hard online the only place that sells the full assembly cover is always sold out of them) , I just got the cover to it's proper position, then took off the whole linkage and semi circle black cover plate....then drilled through one of the plastic pins and straight through to the outside. I then got a tiny machine bolt and nut and fastened it tight. It's been perfect since. I was tempted to do a vid but I didn't want to get sued if some idiot did it wrong lol.
Sorry, I do like this saw, for the price it is excellent. Regarding the blade cover, I don't know what happen with yours, but using mine for a few years didn't come across this problem. Regarding the laser switch, I don't have a laser there, unfortunately, I am going to add it on. Regarding changing the saw blade without unplugging it from the wall socket, it is your fault, don't blame manufacturer that saw is not 100% idiot proofed. Maybe you shouldn't work with power tools at all.
I'm glad I found your review. I'm just about to start lots of projects in a new home and was going to buy one of these today. After watching your honest review, I'll be looking at other machines, clearly Einhell doesn't know what they're doing.
Thanks for the review. Finally unboxed mine but still haven't had to use it. You get what you pay for and it was cheap compared to the professional ones. I'll remember your advice 👍🏻
Hi, I bought this saw. It works great. You are right about the laser and dust issue. However, I solve the dust issue by placing a box at the back of the saw with two dust collection holes. Now all the dust falls into a bucket I have nicely affixed to the bottom. I never even attempted to use the bag since most saws have a similiar problem were more dust is outside the collection bag rather than in the bag itself. I really must thank you for highlighting the laser problem. After the first use, I thought the laser went kaputt. Will clean it and see if that solves the problem. The hard start that is tripping your breaker is not the fault of the saw but you having to change your breaker switch to something higher to accommodate the surge from the saw. I am yet to see the plastic guard stick after heavy use. It is working fine for the moment. But, I took note of what you said.
Hi Lloyd, it is great to hear that the saw works for you better than for me and I really hope that Einhell corrected the parts prompt to failure. I like your idea for the dust issue. Thanks for constructive comment.
@@weekendwarrior_ Hi. You are very much welcome. IF you are going to build a collection box for the sawdust, you have the build the bottom like a funnel. This will facilitate a grade by which the dust can quickly slide into one big collection hole or two. Unfortunately, I did not build my box with a grade or slant, so quite a bit of dust settles behind the two holes but the important thing is that there is no dust on my workbench or the floor. Also, I believe that the three rubber shoes at the three points of the saw might the reason why it might appear to be not level. I did not use these rubber attachments at all. My saw is bolted into attachment on my workbench and is quite level. Try doing that and see if you solve the levelling issue.
I've had Makita and have now dewalt. Last year I bought an Einhell chopsaw (not sure of model name think it was the 1800w model). Really good, great quality, really Impressed. Around £114. I recently bought the Cordless Combi Drill PXC TE CD18-li.....£100 with 2x batts and charger. Batt indicator, Led Light and Belt clip which the DeWalt hasn't got.....infact I'm going to by more and see how they go. ...I understand circular and jigsaw do not come with the best blades as default so worth buying better blades but so far alot cheaper than other main brands and just as good
Just bought this saw and am very pleased with it. Like any budget saw you will need to change the blade, adjust the fence with the allen key and square the blade. It will all take a few hours but once a fence and zero clearance plate are inserted it cuts very well. My laser is about 3mm off but at least off on the right side of the cutline. I do not mind this as the cutline is on the zero insert plate, or simply some tape in my case. If you put some tape down the middle, cut it, then square the fence to the cutline with a 300mm square you will sort most of the problems. I had to move my fence to a position where only two nuts will tighten but it has got it square. As for the guard my theory is people are pulling the saw down before they have opened the black lever properly. I don't see how anything can break if you open the lever fully first.
sixties00 very good spot:) I tried to edit it out but was too lazy. It doesn't change the fact that it would benefit from different system. Thanks for the comment.
I have quite a bunch of Einhell tools, never had any problem with them, as a matter of fact i like them. Affordable, quality (well everything is made China this days). I have Einhell TC-MS 216, serve me well so far. The clamp itself isn't that bad, but i personally don't use them, i use F clamps which are better then one that usually came with mitre saws.
ACTman2606 thanks a lot for your comment. I'm happy if I was able to help (or warn) even one person. Makita is definitely much better choice despite the price.
I just got it today for half price, but I not sure if it's flulty, as my my switch is not working properly, I have to hold it half way to works continuing, I I press the switch fully its start stop starts stop. Does it supposed to do that?
For the price, I can live with those issues. In some cases it's simply a case of RTFM (e.g. the laser switch). Re the blade casing, I always use glasses and gloves anyway. As someone else said, you can offset these issues quite easily and you will get a reasonable tool for next to nothing compared to the bigger brands. It's less than £100 at Toolstation at the moment. Bonza! :)
Congrets for your judgements - totally agreed from my side: I've got this saw on my workbench from a friend for a service. I've met all problems you're talking. And I've found the fence screws loose. So I've checked the 90° allignment between sawblade and fence. By doing this I've measured the fence beeing curved by 0.2mm and reacting sensitive to the friction torque while fixing the bolts. The miter saw I own is a elu ps174 - no plastic - wide xsections - much more sturdy and functional but smaller board xsection cutting capacity compared to this china (scheppach?) design, which is sold under several brand names. (The recent price for a used elu is ~€100 - i bought mine in 1997 for DM 700 - still cutting like new). best regards from Germany 😉
I have the same tool which I bought it on a sale for 100 euros. I have no problem with it whatsoever. Some of the issues mentioned here aren't even included in mine. This is the best sliding miter saw you can get pricewise. Otherwise you would end up paying 200 to 500 euros for something that is probably a little better or the same.
I was so close to taking this back... until I saw your review … I couldn't get the laser to work doh … its the switch with no label .. true einhell instructions are lacking somewhat .. I also have the table saw .. that also gets a slating :) if im honest both are the best money ive spent in a while.. they both take a little adjusting but what machinery doesn't and they are both well and truly overpowered in fact a little scary in a good way :) but what they both do is cut wood like its butter and now very accurately.. might I recommend a little time with screwfix's own brand titan … then you will know what bad is (with the exception of the titan track saw that's awesome) I like the name too the mitre saw from hell :) goes with the red :)
Wade Ward thanks for the comment. It is always good to hear a different point of view. To be honest you confirmed what I started believing some time ago that the poor quality tools are for skilled people because only they will be able to do something good with them. Amateurs like myself have to go for good quality otherwise they make a mess, hurt themselves or in best case decide to go for a professional contractor:)
Main problem it’s that this saw is dangerous because got blade , be aware this is a tool not a toy ,power tools may be dangerous without previous training
You get what you pay for. Always read the manual, it says clearly the switch is for the laser - not the saw. The clamp has a black locking screw on the post for quick height setting, then you wind down the clamp 1-2 turns. The saw needs setting up properly, checked and perhaps tweaked a little but it is a good saw once you get it set up. A professional would spend a great deal more on his tools he wouldn’t buy the cheapest would he?
I'm wondering if the level is actually straight I have found a fair few that are only true when stood upright and are warped laid flat I just bought it other day, only give a piece of wood a cut to make sure it worked, seemed powerful I thought a couple of things looked a bit cheap and I'm not sure if I trust the markings on it, but that's not really a buggy for me as it can be adjusted for Will be getting a proper run out over the next week or 2 I will update in how it handles Appreciate the upload
In Greece it costs about 230 euro's when the real good ones from brands like Makita etc cost around 300-400 euros more, you have to live with those compromises according the price
Hi, thanks for review, unfortunatelly I found it just after buy :-( My saw has similar problems + cover mechanism blocks itself in half-open position. Einhell never more :-(
thank you - good points. See this from Wikipedia AP Stylebook updated on 1 July 2022 online entry with the following statement: "Czechia, the Czech Republic. Both are acceptable. The shorter name Czechia is preferred by the Czech government. If using Czechia, clarify in the story that the country is more widely known in English as the Czech Republic."[65]
Thanks for the comment. For me it was yet another reminder that buying should not be done based on manufacturers claims and look only but on brand reputation and actual users experience.
this is pretty much the experience of every consumer brand chop saw, you will have to pay 8x the price for a real one with the features you like such as soft start and being more rugged, in truth you will end up fixing its faults yourself, improving the plastic pins and the clamp, i hate the horrible noise they make due to no soft start.
Jusb1066 tkanks again for the comment Jusb. I do agree with you. It is just I hear a lot that for the beginners cheaper tools would do, but that is often not the case. Cheap often means (not aleays) that it cannot do accurate job or is much more difficult to do it which for a person that needs more help due to lack of experience is real issue. This was the case with this saw too. It not only slowed me down, created some health risks but also made me go through the hassle of sending it back to the manufacturer who didn't even bother to provide any detail of repair or anything.
myself i was spoiled and its hard to return to regular tools that i now can only afford... my dad owned elu and elektra beckum versions of mitre saws and bench saws, they had induction motors and were of course super smooth rugged and would make 5,000 cuts a day without hassle, but that was the90s !
I have exactly the same machine and beside all the cons you mentioned. I found that also at least on my saw the locks on degrees are not right. 90 degrees is not 90 degrees and so on. I understand this is a cheap machine but it has to many issues. No Einhell for me anymore.
Thanks for your review, I’ll probably buy metabo instead, not to expensive and more bulletproof. Anyway any time there’s some maintenance required unplug it from power completely bro 😎
Good to know why Einhell is 2/3 cheaper then the competitions . No one could explain to me why the saw was cheaper except that the motor might be less good the the german ones. but now we know that its the bad build quality.
Thanks for the comment. Yes, the construction seems to be on the lower end of quality but what's more scary is that I do not believe that my saw was safe to use. If this was a drill I would not worry too much but this piece can cut your hand off if breaks or misused.
It's not that bad of a saw actually. Yes, I have to admit that I almost lost two fingers because I forced the plastic a bit too much and it got caught up in the blade and ripped itself and launched itself at me in the process almost cutting off my two fingers, but it cuts 45' angles well, it turns smoothly, brushes are beefy, motor is pure copper and it's made from cast aluminum so it's lightweight. I have seen Matrix mitre saws, NOW THOSE ARE SHIT. This is more of a newbie/beginner type of improved shit with a few benefits when you broke but you need saw to work so you buy cheap saw. After a year you get a makita and you are as happy as any other guy. But I think this is a great beginner mitre saw.
we all expect a mercedes E amg for the price of a skoda octavia. and when we dicover it is not.... we can either cry and whine or accept we bought a skoda
@@weekendwarrior_ It's on UA-cam, I buyer had the blade guard disintegrate on use.Sent back to Einhell who just replaced guard. Apparently known fault but I didn't want take a chance knowing that.
Hi Nicky, this was one of my issues but not only on 45 degrees. It got stuck and broke at some point. Reading Amazon reviews it is not only my experience.
7:50 l just get my machine now and l saw this biggest problem.and l dont know bow what to do? I just open the packet now and l didnt use it. Fuck l just saw this wideo. Thanks
Modelo 2534: Girando o prato para a esquerda (isto é, sentido horário) ele não chega a 45 graus. Só vai até +/- 30 graus. Pode me dizer se isso é normal ou um defeito ?
Muito obrigado. De repente destravou-se e foi até 45.. Talvez foi falta de lubrificante. Tbm foi dificil puxar o pino de transporte. Tive que usar WD40 e um pino de madeira martelado.
Muito obrigado. De repente destravou-se e foi até 45.. Talvez foi falta de lubrificante. Tbm foi dificil puxar o pino de transporte. Tive que usar WD40 e um pino de madeira martelado.@@weekendwarrior_
I just bought one today and I m really disappointed by him. I Don t really know why they ve been attaching the laser to it cuz it s a total mess, it s way to week and it s not calibrated at all and also as you said it its not in the right place.
Apres avoir vu plusieurs tuto et BIEN lu le mode d'emploi je retire ma critique .Equerrage et reglage laser au top . Manipuler proprement la machine et tout est OK . Bon rapport qualité/prix
It isn't a bargain if the base is uneven, the cuts aren't accurate and the major safety feature - the blade guard - is defective. Get a Festool for 700 roubles. Great advice.... for people who have 700 to spare.
I can tell you I own 2 mitre saws and there all similar... There not really precision cutting tools.. There designed for fast carpentry, more for framing than flooring. For framing there perfect, for thin materials like skirting and flooring there are better tools for the job..
For home hobby is it A nice tool what do you whant for €;100,- or $99,-. When you are a professional worker you buy not this one. I use it for hobby for 2 jears and have no problem. With the saw coffer protection no problem you have mabey a one of a kind that is not working good. The laser with dust is the online problem. But a good video. Thx
this is a low budget mitre saw, what did you expect? If you need super precise cuts and not for general work then don't skimp and invest £500-700 into a proper one.
You should point out, You are reveiwing a Cheap Budget Saw, and for the Price you pay for this model, It actually is very good value for the novice/part timer DIYer. It is NOT a professional model, It is just a Good, Budget, Ocacasional use Mitre Saw, I feel you are too harsh with your reveiw title, "Mitre Saw from Hell" It definetly Not, But a very good value Budget saw. Try paying more for your saw for what you need it for, But for the beginner/DIYer woodworker This saw is idea, and Better than you make out.
Be realistic! what do you expect from a device that costs about 100 euros. A device that meets all your expectations will certainly cost at least three times as much.
If we buy something "cheap" we can't expect it to have the construction quality and features of equipment that cost 3, 4, 5 times more. We get what we pay for. Then there are features, at this level of machines, that don't have a " very precise " operation as it comes from the factory ( which happens with all brands and all equipment in this price range) but that with some skill and some adjustments can easily be corrected and make the machine much better, skills that you don't seem to have. A meaningless video.
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Thank you for the review and the heads up regarding the safety cover sticking
Thanks for taking the time to produce this really helpful video.
Thanks for your comment.
Thanks for your detailed review and sorry for all the problems you had discovering the issues. However, for me, this makes buying this unit 100% great deal, because as long as I know about the problems ahead of time, they are easy to compensate for. Hooking up a proper shop vacuum should take care of dust and laser issues, and there is another video where someone figured out how to adjust the laser to increase accuracy. If you can't justify spending money on a professional model, I think dealing with these problems (once you know about them) is acceptable, IMHO :) Thanks again for your detailed review!
Thanks Mike. You are right. Especially for skilled user this would not be a major issue ordeal with. The only concern I would have in this case though is the issue of blade guard getting stuck. From what I read on Amazon I'm not the only one who experienced it and the other guy was not so lucky and got injured lightly. Thanks a lot for watching and your comment.
@@weekendwarrior_ based on your review, I opted for the extra 2 year warranty for $14, just because of the plastic guard issue you described. Thanks again!
have been looking at one of these today and needed a review like this very helpfull THANKS
Thanks for your comment
Cleary, the limitations are because this is a budget device. Comments about pro's putting in the bin are nonesense as pro's wouldn't buy a cheap tool. You cannot blame the manufacturer because you didn't read the instructions. Play in the measurements are something to consider but again, this is due to the price. If you want high quality, you have to pay for it. The safety cover is a major concern though.
Thank you. Makes for an easy descision for my purchase. Helps me avoid wasting money. I'll rather pay double and get a proper tool.
I am happy that it was helpful.
Been using it for weeks now works absolutely fine for a home DIY
A professional would spend 5 - 8 times more for a professional one
Thanks for the revise👍👍👍
I have the twin of this saw in an Aldi workzone version. It's a basic and underwhelming power tool ( but actually is very powerful at 1800watts) , but I've tweaked it a bit to get the best from it. For the problem of those ridiculous plastic pins that break on every single one of these type off saws ( if u look hard online the only place that sells the full assembly cover is always sold out of them) , I just got the cover to it's proper position, then took off the whole linkage and semi circle black cover plate....then drilled through one of the plastic pins and straight through to the outside. I then got a tiny machine bolt and nut and fastened it tight. It's been perfect since. I was tempted to do a vid but I didn't want to get sued if some idiot did it wrong lol.
Thanks for sharing Jesse.
Really helpful, thank you!
Good review thank you.
Thanks a lot for your comment it made my day!
great review
słyszę totalnie polski akcent w tym angielskim, dzięki za review i cenne uwagi dotyczące piły
Sorry, I do like this saw, for the price it is excellent. Regarding the blade cover, I don't know what happen with yours, but using mine for a few years didn't come across this problem. Regarding the laser switch, I don't have a laser there, unfortunately, I am going to add it on. Regarding changing the saw blade without unplugging it from the wall socket, it is your fault, don't blame manufacturer that saw is not 100% idiot proofed. Maybe you shouldn't work with power tools at all.
Hi thanks for your review, was very usefull to me.
Thanks for the comment. It make it worthwhile.
I'm glad I found your review.
I'm just about to start lots of projects in a new home and was going to buy one of these today.
After watching your honest review, I'll be looking at other machines, clearly Einhell doesn't know what they're doing.
Thanks for your comment
Thanks for the review. Finally unboxed mine but still haven't had to use it. You get what you pay for and it was cheap compared to the professional ones. I'll remember your advice 👍🏻
thanks... with hard start, the 1,5 kW motor goes up to several kilowatts, not just 1,5 kW until it spins sufficiently
correct, thanks for Your comment Jonah
Hi, I bought this saw. It works great. You are right about the laser and dust issue. However, I solve the dust issue by placing a box at the back of the saw with two dust collection holes. Now all the dust falls into a bucket I have nicely affixed to the bottom. I never even attempted to use the bag since most saws have a similiar problem were more dust is outside the collection bag rather than in the bag itself. I really must thank you for highlighting the laser problem. After the first use, I thought the laser went kaputt. Will clean it and see if that solves the problem. The hard start that is tripping your breaker is not the fault of the saw but you having to change your breaker switch to something higher to accommodate the surge from the saw. I am yet to see the plastic guard stick after heavy use. It is working fine for the moment. But, I took note of what you said.
Hi Lloyd, it is great to hear that the saw works for you better than for me and I really hope that Einhell corrected the parts prompt to failure. I like your idea for the dust issue. Thanks for constructive comment.
@@weekendwarrior_ Hi. You are very much welcome. IF you are going to build a collection box for the sawdust, you have the build the bottom like a funnel. This will facilitate a grade by which the dust can quickly slide into one big collection hole or two. Unfortunately, I did not build my box with a grade or slant, so quite a bit of dust settles behind the two holes but the important thing is that there is no dust on my workbench or the floor. Also, I believe that the three rubber shoes at the three points of the saw might the reason why it might appear to be not level. I did not use these rubber attachments at all. My saw is bolted into attachment on my workbench and is quite level. Try doing that and see if you solve the levelling issue.
I wish I’d watched this vid last week as I’ve just bought one.. I may send it back under the 30 day warranty money back. Thanks for t8p heads up 👍
Thanks for the comment
Grate review thanks.
Joseph Tarnowsky thanks Joseph it's very kind of you.
I've had Makita and have now dewalt. Last year I bought an Einhell chopsaw (not sure of model name think it was the 1800w model). Really good, great quality, really Impressed. Around £114. I recently bought the Cordless Combi Drill PXC TE CD18-li.....£100 with 2x batts and charger. Batt indicator, Led Light and Belt clip which the DeWalt hasn't got.....infact I'm going to by more and see how they go. ...I understand circular and jigsaw do not come with the best blades as default so worth buying better blades but so far alot cheaper than other main brands and just as good
Thanks my friend great review....I've just brought this model, so it's great to know this ahead, hopefully it should be ok,
Thanks for comment Zacc. I also hope you had more luck than I did 🤞
Just bought this saw and am very pleased with it. Like any budget saw you will need to change the blade, adjust the fence with the allen key and square the blade. It will all take a few hours but once a fence and zero clearance plate are inserted it cuts very well. My laser is about 3mm off but at least off on the right side of the cutline. I do not mind this as the cutline is on the zero insert plate, or simply some tape in my case. If you put some tape down the middle, cut it, then square the fence to the cutline with a 300mm square you will sort most of the problems. I had to move my fence to a position where only two nuts will tighten but it has got it square. As for the guard my theory is people are pulling the saw down before they have opened the black lever properly. I don't see how anything can break if you open the lever fully first.
Thanks for your comment Danny
6:10 shouldn't you first screw the one on the post and then the second which pushes the clamp down?
thank you for the review
sixties00 very good spot:) I tried to edit it out but was too lazy. It doesn't change the fact that it would benefit from different system. Thanks for the comment.
I have quite a bunch of Einhell tools, never had any problem with them, as a matter of fact i like them. Affordable, quality (well everything is made China this days). I have Einhell TC-MS 216, serve me well so far. The clamp itself isn't that bad, but i personally don't use them, i use F clamps which are better then one that usually came with mitre saws.
Thanks for the comment. It's good to hear that your experience with this brand was better than mine.
thanks
A very helpful review when making purchasing decisions. I'll stick with the Makita LS1040
ACTman2606 thanks a lot for your comment. I'm happy if I was able to help (or warn) even one person. Makita is definitely much better choice despite the price.
That's a 300€ non-sliding mitre saw. Why would you be considering this 99€ sliding one if your budget and needs are completely different?
I just got it today for half price, but I not sure if it's flulty, as my my switch is not working properly, I have to hold it half way to works continuing, I I press the switch fully its start stop starts stop.
Does it supposed to do that?
For the price, I can live with those issues. In some cases it's simply a case of RTFM (e.g. the laser switch). Re the blade casing, I always use glasses and gloves anyway. As someone else said, you can offset these issues quite easily and you will get a reasonable tool for next to nothing compared to the bigger brands. It's less than £100 at Toolstation at the moment. Bonza! :)
Thanks for the comment.
Hi, I have just bought this saw and having problems with the blade cover at 45• bevel cut. Anyone figured how to sort it?
Nicky Brown Hi. What seems to be the problem with it?
domo doing a 45 deg bevel, the Guard seems to get lodged or stuck half way up a cut. Only played about with it so will have a better look later today
Congrets for your judgements - totally agreed from my side: I've got this saw on my workbench from a friend for a service. I've met all problems you're talking. And I've found the fence screws loose. So I've checked the 90° allignment between sawblade and fence. By doing this I've measured the fence beeing curved by 0.2mm and reacting sensitive to the friction torque while fixing the bolts.
The miter saw I own is a elu ps174 - no plastic - wide xsections - much more sturdy and functional but smaller board xsection cutting capacity compared to this china (scheppach?) design, which is sold under several brand names. (The recent price for a used elu is ~€100 - i bought mine in 1997 for DM 700 - still cutting like new).
best regards from Germany 😉
Thanks for your comment. Good to know that I am sane after all...at least in regards to this equipment.
Will it work with a 216 saw blade?
I have the same tool which I bought it on a sale for 100 euros. I have no problem with it whatsoever. Some of the issues mentioned here aren't even included in mine. This is the best sliding miter saw you can get pricewise. Otherwise you would end up paying 200 to 500 euros for something that is probably a little better or the same.
I was so close to taking this back... until I saw your review … I couldn't get the laser to work doh … its the switch with no label .. true einhell instructions are lacking somewhat .. I also have the table saw .. that also gets a slating :) if im honest both are the best money ive spent in a while.. they both take a little adjusting but what machinery doesn't and they are both well and truly overpowered in fact a little scary in a good way :) but what they both do is cut wood like its butter and now very accurately.. might I recommend a little time with screwfix's own brand titan … then you will know what bad is (with the exception of the titan track saw that's awesome) I like the name too the mitre saw from hell :) goes with the red :)
Wade Ward thanks for the comment. It is always good to hear a different point of view. To be honest you confirmed what I started believing some time ago that the poor quality tools are for skilled people because only they will be able to do something good with them. Amateurs like myself have to go for good quality otherwise they make a mess, hurt themselves or in best case decide to go for a professional contractor:)
Main problem it’s that this saw is dangerous because got blade , be aware this is a tool not a toy ,power tools may be dangerous without previous training
You get what you pay for. Always read the manual, it says clearly the switch is for the laser - not the saw. The clamp has a black locking screw on the post for quick height setting, then you wind down the clamp 1-2 turns. The saw needs setting up properly, checked and perhaps tweaked a little but it is a good saw once you get it set up. A professional would spend a great deal more on his tools he wouldn’t buy the cheapest would he?
I'm wondering if the level is actually straight I have found a fair few that are only true when stood upright and are warped laid flat
I just bought it other day, only give a piece of wood a cut to make sure it worked, seemed powerful
I thought a couple of things looked a bit cheap and I'm not sure if I trust the markings on it, but that's not really a buggy for me as it can be adjusted for
Will be getting a proper run out over the next week or 2 I will update in how it handles
Appreciate the upload
Please do update us. To be fair I found it very powerfull at least for my needs but do not have experience with other saws so cannot compare.
Can we have your update please? Thanks!
Also if the guard fails, its good that is fails in the closed position.
Thanks for the review. Very useful - was going to buy. Not now. Compliments on your English.
M.
Thanks Mark for your comment.
In Greece it costs about 230 euro's when the real good ones from brands like Makita etc cost around 300-400 euros more, you have to live with those compromises according the price
For holding clamp, between two holding screws put a elastik band.so you dont have to try secure the boards..
Thanks Kamil
Hi, thanks for review, unfortunatelly I found it just after buy :-( My saw has similar problems + cover mechanism blocks itself in half-open position. Einhell never more :-(
Sorry to hear that mate. So it looks like it is general material or design fault or both. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thanks for the review. Czechia probably comes from the Greek way of saying Czech Republic,which is Tzekia..
Thanks for your comment. Yes, regarding Czechia I realized that some time after;).
@@weekendwarrior_ The country retains its full name but Czechia became the official short geographic name, as "France" is to "The French Republic"
thank you - good points. See this from Wikipedia
AP Stylebook updated on 1 July 2022 online entry with the following statement: "Czechia, the Czech Republic. Both are acceptable. The shorter name Czechia is preferred by the Czech government. If using Czechia, clarify in the story that the country is more widely known in English as the Czech Republic."[65]
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Very good review. The poor build quality is shocking.
Thanks for the comment. For me it was yet another reminder that buying should not be done based on manufacturers claims and look only but on brand reputation and actual users experience.
this is pretty much the experience of every consumer brand chop saw, you will have to pay 8x the price for a real one with the features you like such as soft start and being more rugged, in truth you will end up fixing its faults yourself, improving the plastic pins and the clamp, i hate the horrible noise they make due to no soft start.
Jusb1066 tkanks again for the comment Jusb. I do agree with you. It is just I hear a lot that for the beginners cheaper tools would do, but that is often not the case. Cheap often means (not aleays) that it cannot do accurate job or is much more difficult to do it which for a person that needs more help due to lack of experience is real issue. This was the case with this saw too. It not only slowed me down, created some health risks but also made me go through the hassle of sending it back to the manufacturer who didn't even bother to provide any detail of repair or anything.
myself i was spoiled and its hard to return to regular tools that i now can only afford... my dad owned elu and elektra beckum versions of mitre saws and bench saws, they had induction motors and were of course super smooth rugged and would make 5,000 cuts a day without hassle, but that was the90s !
Jusb1066 wow, I envy you 😉
hhe i meant i cant now afford! i have to buy the same as everyone else, i sold my dads tools when he passed
Jusb1066 I envy the fact that you had a chance to work with quality tools. That surely makes you appreciate them more.
my cover has never opened, maybe i will send it back then
Thanks for sharing Mark
This video is like saying "this is the first mitre saw i bought"
Quels est la hauteur de coupe ?
I have exactly the same machine and beside all the cons you mentioned. I found that also at least on my saw the locks on degrees are not right. 90 degrees is not 90 degrees and so on. I understand this is a cheap machine but it has to many issues. No Einhell for me anymore.
Yes, I only suspected it on mine but since I am no pro I didn't mention it. Thanks for your comment.
Thanks for your review, I’ll probably buy metabo instead, not to expensive and more bulletproof. Anyway any time there’s some maintenance required unplug it from power completely bro 😎
Thanks for your comment
Good to know why Einhell is 2/3 cheaper then the competitions . No one could explain to me why the saw was cheaper except that the motor might be less good the the german ones. but now we know that its the bad build quality.
Thanks for the comment. Yes, the construction seems to be on the lower end of quality but what's more scary is that I do not believe that my saw was safe to use. If this was a drill I would not worry too much but this piece can cut your hand off if breaks or misused.
It's not that bad of a saw actually. Yes, I have to admit that I almost lost two fingers because I forced the plastic a bit too much and it got caught up in the blade and ripped itself and launched itself at me in the process almost cutting off my two fingers, but it cuts 45' angles well, it turns smoothly, brushes are beefy, motor is pure copper and it's made from cast aluminum so it's lightweight. I have seen Matrix mitre saws, NOW THOSE ARE SHIT. This is more of a newbie/beginner type of improved shit with a few benefits when you broke but you need saw to work so you buy cheap saw. After a year you get a makita and you are as happy as any other guy. But I think this is a great beginner mitre saw.
Maybe better not since you almost cut your fingers off?;) thanks for the comment
Ciekawe czym chciałeś zabłysnąć?
we all expect a mercedes E amg for the price of a skoda octavia. and when we dicover it is not.... we can either cry and whine or accept we bought a skoda
Thanks for the comment however I expected Octavia but got Tata. Safety of users is of paramount no matter how much you pay hence European standards.
Evolutions are even worse!
I've just received mine today And a few things I disliked already before use.
I've arranged a return and upgraded to next model up TE-SM 216.
Can you share what didn't you like?
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It's on UA-cam, I buyer had the blade guard disintegrate on use.Sent back to Einhell who just replaced guard.
Apparently known fault but I didn't want take a chance knowing that.
@@dereckjtbear2175 so, it is not the only mine then...sorry to hear that.
Has anyone had a issue with the blade guard. Found it’s getting stuck on a 45 deg bevel cut, other than that it’s spot on for £99.
Hi Nicky, this was one of my issues but not only on 45 degrees. It got stuck and broke at some point. Reading Amazon reviews it is not only my experience.
Weekend Warrior thank you, I will keep an eye on it as I use it.
7:50 l just get my machine now and l saw this biggest problem.and l dont know bow what to do? I just open the packet now and l didnt use it. Fuck l just saw this wideo. Thanks
German name, Chinese quality. They've even put German as the first language in the instruction manual, just like a real German tool!
It's engineered in Germany and made in RPC. Both really really cheap.
Modelo 2534: Girando o prato para a esquerda (isto é, sentido horário) ele não chega a 45 graus. Só vai até +/- 30 graus. Pode me dizer se isso é normal ou um defeito ?
Parece que este modelo deve ser capaz de atingir 45 graus
Muito obrigado. De repente destravou-se e foi até 45.. Talvez foi falta de lubrificante. Tbm foi dificil puxar o pino de transporte. Tive que usar WD40 e um pino de madeira martelado.
Muito obrigado. De repente destravou-se e foi até 45.. Talvez foi falta de lubrificante. Tbm foi dificil puxar o pino de transporte. Tive que usar WD40 e um pino de madeira martelado.@@weekendwarrior_
Can you measure the thickness of the sliders and how far apart they are. Please use a caliper if you have one. Thank you.
I just bought one today and I m really disappointed by him. I Don t really know why they ve been attaching the laser to it cuz it s a total mess, it s way to week and it s not calibrated at all and also as you said it its not in the right place.
Adjusting blade with connected to electricity? 🫡🤔🤯😵💫👨⚕️
thinking of buying one from wickes they lessthan £100 am i buying a load of rubbish or a DIY good saw ?????????
Hi, I can only give you my opinion based on my experience - I would not buy another Einhell product again. Thanks for the question.
Apres avoir vu plusieurs tuto et BIEN lu le mode d'emploi je retire ma critique .Equerrage et reglage laser au top . Manipuler proprement la machine et tout est OK . Bon rapport qualité/prix
Jesus. For £130. IT'S A STEAL. IMO, all its cuts - compound 45% - were bang on. As Jusb1066 says pay £700 and get a Festool.
Michael Read thanks for the comment Michael. I think Festool is amazing but I wouldn't be able to justify it if you know what I mean.
It isn't a bargain if the base is uneven, the cuts aren't accurate and the major safety feature - the blade guard - is defective.
Get a Festool for 700 roubles. Great advice.... for people who have 700 to spare.
I can tell you I own 2 mitre saws and there all similar... There not really precision cutting tools.. There designed for fast carpentry, more for framing than flooring. For framing there perfect, for thin materials like skirting and flooring there are better tools for the job..
you should not discount all eihell products only because of your experience with one of them!!
Achetée en mars 20220 je confirme ce qui est dit . Machine a éviter .
Einhell, Ein hell? Sound German for My Hell. Lol
im sorry butt a level doesnt work on its side
For home hobby is it A nice tool what do you whant for €;100,- or $99,-.
When you are a professional worker you buy not this one.
I use it for hobby for 2 jears and have no problem.
With the saw coffer protection no problem you have mabey a one of a kind that is not working good.
The laser with dust is the online problem.
But a good video.
Thx
Thanks for your comment.
What a wally
Thanks for the review. I just changed my mind not to buy EINHELL..
Hi, I think you made a good choice. Maybe your one would not be defective but I don't think it is worth taking a risk.
this is a low budget mitre saw, what did you expect? If you need super precise cuts and not for general work then don't skimp and invest £500-700 into a proper one.
damn i do have similar experience, i should have watch this video before i buy, such a waste of money
Hi Carlo, it is a shame to here that I am not the only one affected.
Remember the "made in Germany" now is made in Turkey! Same problem
Florin Balasa waste of money ...thanks for the comment Florin
Florin Balasa whatz ur problem with turkey ?
@@Batu930 Germany are known for making great machines.. turkey.. not so much..
@@crazycutz8072 which machine did you use constructed and produced in turkey?
You should point out, You are reveiwing a Cheap Budget Saw, and for the Price you pay for this model, It actually is very good value for the novice/part timer DIYer. It is NOT a professional model, It is just a Good, Budget, Ocacasional use Mitre Saw, I feel you are too harsh with your reveiw title, "Mitre Saw from Hell" It definetly Not, But a very good value Budget saw. Try paying more for your saw for what you need it for, But for the beginner/DIYer woodworker This saw is idea, and Better than you make out.
Thanks for your comment. I would have probably agreed with you if it was not dangerous to use.
Be realistic! what do you expect from a device that costs about 100 euros. A device that meets all your expectations will certainly cost at least three times as much.
I expect safety otherwise it should not be allowed to be sold no matter 100 or 1000 EUR. Thanks for the comment though.
That's why so called unboxings are just useless, because only regular user can find out + and -
precisely, especially after number of uses
German name /Chinese market
It is poor quality indeed. Sorry that you had to experience it as well.
Einhell makes great value for money machines, never ever had any problems with it.
You only talk about things you don't like,but they are minor.
accent from hell
Thanks for watching and the comment.
If we buy something "cheap" we can't expect it to have the construction quality and features of equipment that cost 3, 4, 5 times more. We get what we pay for. Then there are features, at this level of machines, that don't have a " very precise " operation as it comes from the factory ( which happens with all brands and all equipment in this price range) but that with some skill and some adjustments can easily be corrected and make the machine much better, skills that you don't seem to have. A meaningless video.
Can you measure the thickness of the sliders and how far apart they are. Please use a caliper if you have one. Thank you.