"Modern liturgies are often trendy, "horizontal", something that WE do for ourselves and God. Old liturgies are in a sense, "vertical", something that GOD does for us." SO very true. Well said.
I bet if this was the norm for the parish liturgy you'd probably have a lot of visitors and new members too, i know i would if i lived in York, Britain
+Allan Barton If you ever had time, it would be wonderful. I always come back and watch these clips, there's something really beautiful about them. Not ostentatious, not over the top, reverent and quiet.
@Vitrearum : It appears you are getting used to it. The English mediaeval style vestments and ornaments are beautiful, a stark contrast to the skimpy Tridentine ones pictured on the church's web site (the "liturgical norm"?) Are the ornaments in the video left over from an earlier regime at All Saints, or borrowed from elsewhere? The chanting and the Redford are impressive and rarely heard--I wish I could hear the organ better.
It's not "Western Rite Orthodoxy". That Rite is called Western but it isn't. It was a Liturgy aproved bu the patriarch of Moscow. It is called the Liturgy of St. Tikhon but the saint had nothing to do with it. That liturgy was designed to recruit Roman Catholics, Anglicans and Episcopalians to the Russian Orthodox Church. The Roman Catholic Church has it's uniate churches to recruit the Eastern Orthodox.
Difficult to say if this C of E or R C. If C of E it would be "popery". The bell ringing is a nice touch. Too bad I'm allergic to smoke (incense) even "holy smoke".
Yes. It is valid. Or they wouldn't do it. No, they are Anglican and not Roman. Just because Pope Leo XIIII said it isn't valid does not mean that it's true. We answer to a higher authority than a pope.
Rather antiquarian. Liturgy is nicely done but I think the modern chest-organ sounds insipid an gives a pastel and slightly stoned 1970s early music revival feel to the whole thing. The 16th century organs that survive suggest much more vivid colours. That would bring this little scene to life! As would hearty singing from a large schola in the chant verses.
This church was once English Use, and I would hope it would put off the romish trappings and bring back the more beautiful Liturgy that Fr.Shaw once used
"Modern liturgies are often trendy, "horizontal", something that WE do for ourselves and God. Old liturgies are in a sense, "vertical", something that GOD does for us." SO very true. Well said.
I agree with 1401JSC. Well done indeed! If this were still everyday Anglicanism, everywhere, I might still be Anglican today.
Thanks for posting this.
Ooh i'm Loveing this. I used to go to this church when I lived in York.
Everyone assumes his liturgical rôle with dignity and modesty. Well done.
The Latin is so spiritually soothing. Nice visuals too.
Wonderful especially when compared to the banal Novus Ordo Missae from Rome now
I wish they'd bring back rood screens. Most churches (Catholic or Anglican) don't even have altar rails.
In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti. Amen. 🙏
I'm sure there is an Orthodox bishop out there who would love to have such a beautiful western rite parish in their diocese... just saying...
I bet if this was the norm for the parish liturgy you'd probably have a lot of visitors and new members too, i know i would if i lived in York, Britain
I so wish that a full recording of this mass, if it exists, could be uploaded.
+Smoke N'Oakum It does exist, I really should upload one.
+Allan Barton If you ever had time, it would be wonderful. I always come back and watch these clips, there's something really beautiful about them. Not ostentatious, not over the top, reverent and quiet.
It's Use of York or Ebor, according to the Pre-Tridentine Roman Catholic rite, celebrated in an Anglo-Catholic CofE parish in York, Britain
This is wonderful!
The glass in this church is medieval, and (if we go by star rating) it is the best church (excluding the minster) in York.
At what church wss this done?
@Vitrearum : It appears you are getting used to it. The English mediaeval style vestments and ornaments are beautiful, a stark contrast to the skimpy Tridentine ones pictured on the church's web site (the "liturgical norm"?) Are the ornaments in the video left over from an earlier regime at All Saints, or borrowed from elsewhere? The chanting and the Redford are impressive and rarely heard--I wish I could hear the organ better.
Very interesting.
Is this Roman Catholic or Anglican?
Anglican. Church of All Saints, North Street, York. They're very high church there.
Voltem de Onde nunca deveriam ter saido, voltem para Santa Igreja Católica, Sancta Ecclesian Catolican. Viva á Igreja de Cristo !
which parish is this? Is it Catholic or Anglican?
+Cole DeSantis Anglo-Catholic - it is the beautiful church of All Saints' North Street in York. A true Medieval jewel.
Anglican
YES!!! They have a "Rood Screen"! Long Live Western Orthodoxy (ROCOR and WRV)
It's not "Western Rite Orthodoxy". That Rite is called Western but it isn't. It was a Liturgy aproved bu the patriarch of Moscow. It is called the Liturgy of St. Tikhon but the saint had nothing to do with it. That liturgy was designed to recruit Roman Catholics, Anglicans and Episcopalians to the Russian Orthodox Church. The Roman Catholic Church has it's uniate churches to recruit the Eastern Orthodox.
Difficult to say if this C of E or R C. If C of E it would be "popery". The bell ringing is a nice touch. Too bad I'm allergic to smoke (incense) even "holy smoke".
This is an an Anglican worship service at All Saints Church, North Street, in York. Yes, it is absolutely the highest sort of high church Anglicanism.
is this valid? are they Roman Catholic priests?
No.
Yes. It is valid. Or they wouldn't do it. No, they are Anglican and not Roman.
Just because Pope Leo XIIII said it isn't valid does not mean that it's true. We answer to a higher authority than a pope.
Rather antiquarian. Liturgy is nicely done but I think the modern chest-organ sounds insipid an gives a pastel and slightly stoned 1970s early music revival feel to the whole thing. The 16th century organs that survive suggest much more vivid colours. That would bring this little scene to life! As would hearty singing from a large schola in the chant verses.
The organ sounds like a calliope!
Is this Church under the authority of the Holy Father, the Pope?
NO
It's under the authority of CHRIST and not the pope.
This church was once English Use, and I would hope it would put off the romish trappings and bring back the more beautiful Liturgy that Fr.Shaw once used