Weird 90s PC Keyboards - The Scanner & 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗙𝗨𝗧𝗨𝗥𝗘

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  • @ingusmant
    @ingusmant 7 місяців тому +397

    "Maybe it'll work now" was the average PC user experience in the 90s.

    • @renakunisaki
      @renakunisaki 7 місяців тому +25

      Not much has changed.

    • @TimmehJay
      @TimmehJay 7 місяців тому +21

      Sometimes you just had to take a break, let both parties calm down, and just try again later

    • @Decenium
      @Decenium 5 місяців тому +2

      ermm that still is the experience today....

  • @IanZainea1990
    @IanZainea1990 7 місяців тому +260

    13:52 if your job in '95 or whatever was to digitize a paper database, this would have been invaluable. Or even just a secretary where your boss kept handing you things and saying "scan this and send it to the team" or whatever business nonsense

    • @thesteelrodent1796
      @thesteelrodent1796 7 місяців тому +38

      if you were told to scan a box of paper one page at a time, you'd quit. Thay made scanners specifically for that, with automatic stack feeders and handsfree operation. Load up stack of paper, hit go, have lunch, come back and you've got 500 pages freshly OCR'er that you have to read through to correct all the mistakes. It was not a fun task, so most places only did it as needed

    • @polocatfan
      @polocatfan 7 місяців тому

      ​@@thesteelrodent1796ok then they'll hire someone for less money.

    • @vicroc4
      @vicroc4 7 місяців тому +20

      Medical receptionist scanning patient forms. I know a couple offices even today that would love that thing

    • @Zodroo_Tint
      @Zodroo_Tint 7 місяців тому +10

      Especially with a boss who have zero knowledge about computers and ask things expecting immediate results because computers are magic.
      This keyboard may made someones life thousand times better in the 90's.

    • @mialemon6186
      @mialemon6186 6 місяців тому +5

      @@vicroc4there’s still a shocking amount of paper in medical offices. This would be brilliant instead of having to run halfway across the office to use the copy machine.

  • @WESTMPLS
    @WESTMPLS 7 місяців тому +1198

    "Ill get those backed up on Internet Archive if they arent already" was the instant reaction. What a class act.

    • @camotech1314
      @camotech1314 7 місяців тому +59

      I mean what else would you expect a retro tech obsessed man to do? 🤣

    • @alexrekzu4079
      @alexrekzu4079 7 місяців тому +61

      Clint's sworn duty

    • @NicholasTobolski
      @NicholasTobolski 7 місяців тому +45

      @@camotech1314there are people who will hog it all for themself.

    • @MontyDotharl
      @MontyDotharl 7 місяців тому +49

      Yeah, Clint is great at helping preserve obscure software. It's really admirable

    • @MrWolfSnack
      @MrWolfSnack 7 місяців тому +31

      I've got some old floppy disks of old software that cannot even be found in google, as well as some internal software on floppy from American Airlines. I wonder if I should make an IA account and do that too? I just always assumed it was illegal to do that and it would just get you banned for copyright infringement.

  • @tsufordman
    @tsufordman 7 місяців тому +208

    I'm just imagining sibling shenanigans. One immersed in a game, another sneaking up with a piece of paper in hand.

    • @techgeeknzl
      @techgeeknzl 7 місяців тому +21

      We had one of those. You don't even need the piece of paper, because the green "PaperPort" button will do the same thing.

    • @Zodroo_Tint
      @Zodroo_Tint 7 місяців тому +1

      My thought exactly. Would have been fun. :)

    • @Zodroo_Tint
      @Zodroo_Tint 7 місяців тому +4

      @@techgeeknzl No man, let it stay a challange. You write a message on a paper and you made his computer scan it.

  • @RMPANDA964
    @RMPANDA964 7 місяців тому +505

    LGR’s definition of relaxing: Installing a crazy scanner and trying to get it to work LOL

    • @vxpdx
      @vxpdx 7 місяців тому +10

      I can sympathize, heh. It's like taking on a puzzle

    • @guardiane
      @guardiane 7 місяців тому +1

      That would be relaxing for sure - especially if I had justification to do so...otherwise, I just feel guilt for all the time I'm wasting lol. To be able to do this for a living is the dream.

    • @jr2904
      @jr2904 7 місяців тому

      Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks haha

    • @existenceisrelative
      @existenceisrelative 7 місяців тому +4

      I spent my 1995 spring break getting microsoft flight simulator to work. Like, the entire break. No internet, no one who had the knowledge to help me; just me, windows, and a discount bin copy of an old game that wouldn't work.
      It's really one of my favorite memories.

    • @cardboardsnail
      @cardboardsnail 7 місяців тому +3

      Compared to the experience with printers, I'd say it's pretty relaxing lol

  • @ozzie_goat
    @ozzie_goat 7 місяців тому +549

    The paperless office is one of the four horsemen of the IT apocalypse. The other three are "full IPv6 adoption", "quantum computing", and "Half Life 3"

    • @ten132
      @ten132 7 місяців тому +14

      What even is that analogy? With lame movie references? And filling it with half life 3? Lol anything goes huh?

    • @ozzie_goat
      @ozzie_goat 7 місяців тому +125

      @@ten132 I find your lack of philosophy disturbing

    • @GrooveSpaceArk
      @GrooveSpaceArk 7 місяців тому +62

      ​@@ten132It's biblical...

    • @Finnisher_DAD
      @Finnisher_DAD 7 місяців тому +3

      Haha 😂

    • @Thiesi
      @Thiesi 7 місяців тому +53

      Three of which we will almost certainly experience during our lifetime, but I have little hope for _Half-Life 3._

  • @ScooterinAB
    @ScooterinAB 7 місяців тому +111

    "Acer was trying things." A perfect descriptor of the 90s and 2000s. Which is honestly something I miss. Tech at the time was quite something, and companies were certainly trying things. It is disappointing that now everything is just the same. Everything basically looks the same now and no one is actually actively trying to compete anymore. For as weird as stuff like this was, it at least tried to have an identity.

    • @laurencefraser
      @laurencefraser 7 місяців тому +8

      Some of that is because the 'trying things' phase identified a lot of stuff that Didn't work, and a few things that Did, and Why... there's not a lot left Too try except when someone come sup with some legitimately New tech (or finally nails down a way to make an old idea viable).

    • @mayhem4masses363
      @mayhem4masses363 7 місяців тому +4

      Everything was unique back then. Everything looks the same now. All Tvs look the same, computers look the same, phones look the same, there's no innovation anymore, just updates and versions.

    • @Zodroo_Tint
      @Zodroo_Tint 7 місяців тому +1

      @@laurencefraser Not true, there is still things they didn't tried, just like in gaming independent can be very creative while AAA are not anymore, sadly in tech independent is not as common as in programming. There are no new ideas not because they found out what is working and what is not but because they found out what is the most profitable way to create products.
      Just an example. There should be a keyboard already where a sensor can detect how far you pushed the key, it could have been awesome for driving games but also for any character movement.

    • @Zodroo_Tint
      @Zodroo_Tint 7 місяців тому +2

      @@laurencefraser Oh one more thing, a mouse with touch sensor on the buttons so we could change stance in a sword game.
      This is just two examples but I'm sure there is more.

    • @Rayjacker
      @Rayjacker 6 місяців тому

      @@Zodroo_Tint Analogue keyboards exists already, one of the main users of it are Wooting keyboards.

  • @the-bizzy-bee
    @the-bizzy-bee 7 місяців тому +198

    Lgr I beg you, fill the lamp with mouse balls

    • @winterwatson6437
      @winterwatson6437 7 місяців тому

      instructions unclear: filled with rodent testicles

    • @LGR
      @LGR  7 місяців тому +136

      Tempting

    • @opiniononion919
      @opiniononion919 7 місяців тому +34

      heh. balls.

    • @buildyourcomputer
      @buildyourcomputer 7 місяців тому +9

      balls of steel would be better.

    • @hoilst265
      @hoilst265 6 місяців тому +9

      @@LGR One way to stop them breeding, I guess.

  • @michaelturner2806
    @michaelturner2806 7 місяців тому +57

    Scan documents with your keyboard, listen to the radio on your mouse, have a cigarette lighter and ashtray in a drive bay; what's next, use your monitor tilt as a joystick, read CDs with your tinny 2.0 speakers, change channels on your TV with foot pedals?

    • @LGR
      @LGR  7 місяців тому +35

      Oddly enough the foot pedals changing channels _is_ entirely a thing using a Foot Mouse and a TV tuner card 😄

    • @MrSkeltal268
      @MrSkeltal268 7 місяців тому +7

      @@LGRPlaying Duke Nukem with foot pedals video when?!?

    • @lazlopanaflex777
      @lazlopanaflex777 7 місяців тому +2

      @@MrSkeltal268 LOL, Clint you gotta make that happen! And when are we getting a video of the sweet Raiden II cab, stop teasing! :-D

    • @powerchordgamer
      @powerchordgamer 6 місяців тому +1

      In the show Metalocalypse they use a series of guitar pedals as their tv remote, so close enough

    • @hyperturbotechnomike
      @hyperturbotechnomike 6 місяців тому

      I have built foot pedals for team speak push to talk once.

  • @brennyn
    @brennyn 7 місяців тому +183

    It's astounding how many ergonomic products from the 90s totally missed the point and were seemingly designed by people that thought that "ergonomic" simply meant to make it as weird shaped as possible.

    • @MrWolfSnack
      @MrWolfSnack 7 місяців тому +11

      Ergonomic = impossible to use on a daily basis just to save 10 seconds of time in your mundane cubicle job

    • @ax14pz107
      @ax14pz107 7 місяців тому +21

      They also seemed to have been designed by people who have both massively over and under sized hands and arms.

    • @fus132
      @fus132 7 місяців тому +3

      @@MrWolfSnack That's not the purpose of ergonomic design.

    • @Guy-McPerson
      @Guy-McPerson 7 місяців тому +15

      The same could be said today, too. The sad truth is ergonomics have been used as an easy excuse for cash grabs forever.

    • @thesteelrodent1796
      @thesteelrodent1796 7 місяців тому +10

      "ergonomic" literally means it's made to fit you. Slapping "ergonomic" on anything that is weirdly shaped is misleading, because it's only ergonomic if you happen to have the exact shape and size of the person it's designed for, otherwise it can be the most painfull and damaging thing you've ever used - like pressure zone mattresses, curvy mice, "ergonomic" seats, and so on. Companies really should be required to list on the products what person they're designed for, like they have to do on children's car seats

  • @bcsb
    @bcsb 7 місяців тому +474

    "There you go, now they're both broken."
    Perfectly balanced. As all things should be.

    • @GPSC998
      @GPSC998 7 місяців тому +24

      just hope Clint never becomes a doctor

    • @myrandom603
      @myrandom603 7 місяців тому +4

      here comes my stupid question of the day. Did they break from becoming brittle over time or would this have happened on day one as well?

    • @MrWolfSnack
      @MrWolfSnack 7 місяців тому +14

      @@myrandom603 ABS plastic becomes like Ming dynasty china over time. The slightest bump and you've smashed a hole in it. My cat knocked a vintage Dustbuster I had off a stack of boxes in the garage and it only fell half a foot and the thing smashed into 100 pieces.

    • @rommix0
      @rommix0 7 місяців тому +6

      @@GPSC998 He already failed when he did that X10 home automation video years ago. I'm sure the switch box switched off the next door neighbors life support lol.

    • @DragonNexus
      @DragonNexus 7 місяців тому +2

      My heart clenched at that.

  • @ChrisLincoln
    @ChrisLincoln 7 місяців тому +28

    The jankiness of Windows 9x computers is why I learned so much about PCs and how to troubleshoot them. I know ME/2000 weren't really better, but we kept 98 until XP came along

    • @cmdraftbrn
      @cmdraftbrn 6 місяців тому

      hated 98. it run for about three months before you had to reformat your hdd and spend a day reinstalling everything.

    • @rjgscotland
      @rjgscotland 6 місяців тому +4

      2000 was absolutely solid (because it was NT based like XP). I ran 2000 long into the XP era and only gave it up because I needed to run newer versions of some applications. ME was 98 with some extra bugs. Although I did run it for a short while and seem to remember it adding something vaguely useful at times, when it wasn't displaying a BSOD.

  • @kepuexe1
    @kepuexe1 7 місяців тому +93

    The integrated scanner in the Compaq keyboard is really neat and handy. Could be a cool collector item.

    • @billybollockhead5628
      @billybollockhead5628 7 місяців тому +6

      Yeah, I would’ve loved it back in the day. Takes up far less desk space.. super cool

    • @MrMega200
      @MrMega200 7 місяців тому

      The Acer Future Keyboard has one seller on eBay, for $264. That's certainly not a cheap purchase. The scanner keyboard is close at around $200 and these are all new in box examples.

    • @hyperturbotechnomike
      @hyperturbotechnomike 6 місяців тому

      I know someone who had ths keyboard. It was broken after a month.

  • @lovesnakeden
    @lovesnakeden 7 місяців тому +73

    *_>Buy the keyboard and get $10 as long as you do it by May 31st, '98._*
    Great Scott!
    Marty, we just missed it.

    • @MrWolfSnack
      @MrWolfSnack 7 місяців тому +5

      "'98 gon' be that year"
      ~OutKast

    • @spongerobert
      @spongerobert 7 місяців тому +4

      Now I want to watch back to the future again.

    • @TerryWhisk
      @TerryWhisk 6 місяців тому

      @@spongerobertyou will never watch that movie ever again stop lying

    • @jr2904
      @jr2904 4 місяці тому

      ​@@TerryWhisk it's still on TV all the time, chances are that they will

    • @TerryWhisk
      @TerryWhisk 4 місяці тому

      @@jr2904 I must go

  • @Obscusion2
    @Obscusion2 7 місяців тому +92

    If Clint is still running LGR Foods, he should totally try out that recipe for "Grandma's Fudge Frosting" at 6:24 & see if Compaq actually knew how to make good frosting or not.

    • @override7486
      @override7486 7 місяців тому +8

      it's a recipe for crystal meth bro.

    • @MrSkeltal268
      @MrSkeltal268 7 місяців тому +9

      @@override7486Grandma, we need to cook!

    • @AiLoveAidoru
      @AiLoveAidoru 7 місяців тому +3

      I mean it’s probably a recipe one of the software developers had lying around

    • @adamclark9552
      @adamclark9552 6 місяців тому

      ​@@override7486make it anyway

    • @mialemon6186
      @mialemon6186 6 місяців тому +2

      I need the channel revived purely for this. 😂

  • @guymontag5
    @guymontag5 7 місяців тому +28

    For something that came out in 96, the scanner keyboard is an incredibly impressive product!

  • @MrSirViking
    @MrSirViking 7 місяців тому +4

    The scanner keyboard was actually cooler than i thought it would be. It is actually an easy way to scan things. get a document and then plop it into the slot on the keyboard and it get scanned right away. No need to open anything. And it did it fairly quickly too. So pretty awesome. Looking forward to more keyboard videos :)

  • @GillesVandenoostende
    @GillesVandenoostende 7 місяців тому +23

    Installing drivers and getting printers/scanners/soundcards to work on early windows always felt like a bit like voodoo. Sometimes it works, sometimes it works briefly and then ceases to work until you restart your PC between 5 and 7 times.

    • @Zodroo_Tint
      @Zodroo_Tint 7 місяців тому +3

      Never understood this back then, why are the PC not working in the exact same way every time, this supposed to be a machine based on logic, and even the experts couldn't answer my question. So when windows became the basic operation system I was like: _Oh, great! So this will here to stay for decades._

    • @lazlopanaflex777
      @lazlopanaflex777 7 місяців тому +2

      Nothing has changed, good sir...where I work, Win 10 big Pharma lab PCs that have weird issues sometimes magically fix themselves after several reboots... 🤷‍♂

    • @SynchronizorVideos
      @SynchronizorVideos 6 місяців тому

      I remember finding a scanner at a garage sale back when I was in high school. I took it home, got it connected to my Windows 98 machine, and struggled for days to make it work. I got one scan out of it (a picture of my face smushed against the glass), and never got it to do anything else afterward.

  • @Brianybug
    @Brianybug 7 місяців тому +224

    Acer: "Know what our new keyboard needs? Huge wrist-rest kidneys."

    • @anonymouschicken20
      @anonymouschicken20 7 місяців тому +11

      Who needs wristrests, the other day, I saw some guy's ergonomic solution: Tilting the whole keyboard and placing it on a tablet stand.

    • @Finnisher_DAD
      @Finnisher_DAD 7 місяців тому +10

      Yes I like your thinking, you have a future here at Acer

    • @D0NU75
      @D0NU75 7 місяців тому

      it's the kind of kb that you touch inappropriately whether you want it or not.

    • @first__last
      @first__last 7 місяців тому +1

      Looks more like butt cheeks to me. The circular trackpad in the center doesn't help.

    • @MisterErts
      @MisterErts 7 місяців тому +8

      That's just a excuse to get a goatse shape. Once you see it you can't unsee it.

  • @Brazbit
    @Brazbit 7 місяців тому +38

    Pinky! Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
    I think so Brain... But if it is the keyboard for the paperless office, what are you going to scan?

  • @seoulpurpose
    @seoulpurpose 7 місяців тому +16

    I love the early attempts at ergo split keyboards from this era, even though some of them actually required you to place your hands in ways that were ergonomically terrible

    • @laurencefraser
      @laurencefraser 7 місяців тому +7

      Pesonally, I wish an affordable fully split (two seperate halves, connected by a wire, position them however works for your actual proportions) keyboard had actually been enough of a thing to become standard.
      I have one now... it was Very expensive. Largely because it's also an ortholinier, programable, mechanical keyboard (and I am getting noticeable benefit from all of those traits), but still, cost me over NZD500... your bog standard cheap PC keyboard is generally (last I looked) around NZD80.

    • @vladv5126
      @vladv5126 7 місяців тому

      What's NZD?

    • @dcnick3
      @dcnick3 7 місяців тому +3

      @@vladv5126 New Zealand Dollars, I would guess

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 7 місяців тому +33

    Finally, a new series from the makers of Weird Mices.

  • @realamanda1943
    @realamanda1943 Місяць тому

    This is truly such a comforting video. It's really assuring to know that things can be really messy but can probably be gently restored and fixed.

  • @BoisegangGaming
    @BoisegangGaming 7 місяців тому +15

    I really appreciate that there's subtitles here and that they're also Netflix levels of quality.
    "General unboxing noises"
    "Unnecessary grunting"

  • @kadnhart6661
    @kadnhart6661 7 місяців тому +9

    No joke, I've been digitizing a bunch of typewriter pages and took a break to watch this, because dealing with my crap Canon flatbed scanner is the most annoying part of the whole process BY FAR. That scanner keyboard would be a legit improvement!

    • @Zodroo_Tint
      @Zodroo_Tint 7 місяців тому +1

      Yes, people like to crap on things not even considering it might be useful for someone.

  • @tegandetermann3299
    @tegandetermann3299 7 місяців тому +3

    I love your childlike wonder when you're trying out stuff like this. Seeing exactly what it can scan by grabbing everything within reach and trying it out. It makes your vidoes a hundred times more fun to watch than a dry product review.
    Also, after heaing you say "Future!" as you did, I'm now feeling the need to go watch you're TS3 final review (for the hundredth time.)

  • @oddojaggins
    @oddojaggins 7 місяців тому +18

    Something about LGR just grabbing random pieces of paper and giggling when it took it from him was so endearing

  • @SSofIreland
    @SSofIreland 7 місяців тому +11

    "Oh no, I've already broken the darn thing! I guess this wasn't supposed to come out all the way."
    *not even 20 seconds later*
    "I wonder if this bit opens up...?"

  • @BobWiersema
    @BobWiersema 6 місяців тому +2

    For scanning business cards and thicker things flip the door in the back (at 4:56) up so things pass straight through. Yes I have one. Used it all the time and was so disappointed when I couldn't find any drivers past Win98. Mine was made by Visioneer. Also if Win95 or 98 is having a hard time finding it that's because it likes the com ports to be on the default IRQ's.

  • @LeinaDZiur
    @LeinaDZiur 7 місяців тому +8

    This is a gadget I'd actually use today, because having an easy to access scanner without taking the space a scanner takes would be extremely convenient.

    • @jamesphillips4009
      @jamesphillips4009 7 місяців тому +1

      Plus that degree of accuracy is just good enough for office work. Gets all the details you need with little fuss; and a little extra for playing around when you have spare time.

    • @Zodroo_Tint
      @Zodroo_Tint 7 місяців тому +1

      @@jamesphillips4009 Just imagine someone gives you a code and you scan it into the computer within a minute so now you have double chance to not lose the code.
      Scanner keyboard is useful.

  • @Markimark151
    @Markimark151 7 місяців тому +7

    That scanner keyboard is so cool, it’s a space saver! Too bad Compaq never focused on the software driver for that keyboard, it would’ve been successful!

  • @DarkeningDemise
    @DarkeningDemise 7 місяців тому +20

    Hey LGR, long time fan since about 2011/2012 really. Just wanted to say thanks for all the entertainment for all these years. You inspired me and many others over time to get into things like The Sims, thrifting, and technology. You helped me find out what Sims DLC I wanted to buy first back in the day and the strange tech videos were always great. Your snarky soothing voice was relaxing as well. Good luck to you man.

    • @papyrus7563
      @papyrus7563 7 місяців тому +1

      Same. Im not even sure if this account was my original account i first found him since YT got together with Google and messed up my login emails but i always seem to gravitate and find lgr in the algorithm
      Always a good time whenever i stumble into his vids

  • @gwalla
    @gwalla 7 місяців тому +4

    That keyboard/scanner combo actually seems like a pretty good idea. And yeah, compared to a regular keyboard it's not "compact", but compared to a keyboard and stand-alone scanner it takes up way less desk space. It's just too bad that was the pre-USB age of driver install jank. In an office that had to do a lot of document scanning, it would probably have been pretty handy.

  • @LARKXHIN
    @LARKXHIN 7 місяців тому +48

    "'empowers your PC' now they're just making stuff up" nice to know cringe copy is as old as time itself.

  • @dag_gamercave
    @dag_gamercave 7 місяців тому +1

    It honestly brings me joy to see your videos pop up on my feed. I'm a 93 vintage myself, so your entire channel is pretty much a nostalgia trip for me.
    As a side note, it was *your channel* that got me into the idea of making a UA-cam channel dedicated to retro gaming. You also made me get into weird 90s tech.
    At the time of writing this comment, I'm uploading my first video, with my main goal being 90s playthroughs with zero commentary. Well... the first video is Fallout 3, but... you know.
    Thanks, man.

  • @Many_Sparrows
    @Many_Sparrows 7 місяців тому +12

    Ah the days of stuff not working then just working fine, unlocked some memories!

  • @jbeamer11tv
    @jbeamer11tv 7 місяців тому +1

    Was going through a moment of loneliness, and was honestly on the brink of tears until that goofy sound you made at 7:31 which cheered me up a lot and made me laugh. Thank you a lot LGR, I love your videos ❤

  • @RetroTechRestoration
    @RetroTechRestoration 7 місяців тому +7

    Patient registration staff at our hospital ER use small stick-style scanners with their mobile computer workstations everyday. This built-in scanner would accomplish the same purpose.

  • @HR-wd6cw
    @HR-wd6cw 7 місяців тому +6

    Well, I could see something like a doctor's office or dentist's office perhaps finding something like this useful. The client fills out their form and the secretary can scan it from their desk while working on the person's profile on the computer. But I mean compared to scanners of the day it was probably quite compact (as I think scanners from that time were either only flatbed or they were about the size of a paper shredder).

    • @paul_boddie
      @paul_boddie 7 місяців тому +1

      It makes complete sense from the perspective of any kind of clerical "front desk" job where space is at a premium and where they just want to take papers from the client and process them immediately.
      These days, people in those jobs end up wandering over to the office scanner/copier/printer, waiting their turn amongst all the other functionaries, messing around with the control panel, and hoping that the scans end up in the right network folder. And that is if the thing actually works at all.
      There were some fairly compact scanners like this back in the day that ran sheets through the unit, just like the feeder unit does on some multifunction devices. They followed on from those handheld scanners which were wide enough to scan photographs but needed the user to steadily drag the unit over the materials.

  • @mar4kl
    @mar4kl 7 місяців тому +75

    1:38, "Easy to use - no on/off switch..." - 🤣Because we all know that the hardest thing about using a scanner is operating the on/off switch!
    17:02, odd split layout - Those were supposed to be ergonomic, good for reducing the pain of carpal tunnel syndrome for those who had it, and for reducing the chances of developing carpal tunnel syndrome for those who didn't. A number of split/curved/angled keyboards were introduced in the early 1990s. I was interested, as I found that day after day of programming and other keyboarding I had to do for my job brought on painful tendonitis. Alas, those supposedly ergonomic keyboards were expensive, there seemed to be little authoritative research to prove the concept, and I wasn't sure I could get used to typing with my hands at those angles, so I didn't think my employer would be willing to spring for one. But the one thing that article after article I read on the topic all said was that the cause of manual pain from typing was the unnatural angles that people's hands made with their wrists as they positioned themselves to reach the keyboard. Examining my sitting position at my desk, I realized that my relatively short stature made it impossible for me to sit high enough at the desk to type with straight wrists without having the chair so high that my feet would be dangling several inches above the floor, which can lead to circulation problems and lower back pain. Armed with that knowledge (ooh, sorry, couldn't resist!), I devised a basically free solution to my problem that required no new hardware or furniture acquisitions. If I couldn't raise myself high enough to type with my wrists straight, maybe I could angle up the keyboard so I could keep my wrists straight while sitting at my normal height. So, I went to the storage closet and helped myself to a spare keyboard tray with a soft palmrest, and began collecting waste paper from the printer, which I stacked up under the back edge of the keyboard to angle it up. I stopped collecting waste paper when I had a stack about an inch and a half high, and the keyboard and tray and my forearms were at about a 40-degree angle from the desktop. My forearms, wrists and hands were perfectly straight, the soft palmrest kept this position comfortable, and there was no new hand positioning to get used to, although this setup looked a bit strange. The tendonitis went away, and I never developed carpal tunnel syndrome. The only detriment was to some poor ergonomic keyboard maker who was denied a ~$250 sale due to my ingenuity. (I cried guilty tears all the way from the doctor's office to the bank over that.)

    • @W4iteFlame
      @W4iteFlame 7 місяців тому

      I want to see how it looked

    • @laurencefraser
      @laurencefraser 7 місяців тому +10

      Turns out, most of those ergonomic keyboards were of... questionable.. benefit. Not because the logic was wrong, exactly, but because they were still locked into a fixed, non-adjustable position, and for most people that position would be the Wrong position.
      On the other hand, if you could track down a Fully split keyboard, where the two halves were connected by a Wire, (you can get them, they are expensive but that's because, to my understanding, most of the manufacturers willing to actually do it are also specifically there to make fancy mechanical keyboards, so you're paying for that too), you can get a lot more benefit out of them, because you can actually put the two halves the right distance apart for your shoulders (you can end up with really bad wrist pain because nerves in your shoulders/neck/upper back are getting screwed up by your shoulder/arm position with a normal keyboard, quite independent of the Actual wrist problems it can cause) and at the right angle for your wrists' natural resting positions. Ortholinier key layouts can help somewhat too, because you're not stretching your fingers out sideways all the time.
      Then you get into the absolute disaster that is Chairs, and the standard, non-adjustable office desk (designed so that standard filing cabinets fit under it, not to be ergonomic to humans in Any Way... unless they're well over six feet tall, at least)... and the fun lack of compatibility between the two.

    • @Zodroo_Tint
      @Zodroo_Tint 7 місяців тому

      Next time don't separate your comment into two part, just write it into one part so it will be even harder to read! Thanks!

  • @Dukefazon
    @Dukefazon 7 місяців тому +6

    I reeeally had to force myself not to pick a scanner keyboard like that off of ebay! It probably won't work right on moder machines with the driver issues but every time you inserted a paper and it started to work on it instantly it heightened my need to buy one. It's such a cool little device! I have a Microsoft ergonomic keyboard that has similar color scheme to that one you have here. At first it was weird, I don't know why my seller gave me that but I quickly grew fond of it. I used it for a couple of years before switched to Mac, it was nice, comfy, a bit bulky but I had a huge table back then. Neat keyboards, keep 'em coming!

    • @MrWolfSnack
      @MrWolfSnack 7 місяців тому +1

      I have windows 7 and 7 works fine with archaic drivers. I know for a fact that 10 and 11 do not work with drivers older than XP because of the way they programmed the OS to be for inept toddlers and anti-user for experienced Windows users. Currently using a barcode scanner from 1989 on my 7 PC with some generic Windows 95 serial driver for a random commercial barcode device and it's working just fine.

  • @tcaldwe
    @tcaldwe 7 місяців тому +3

    OMG the mere mention of the Paperport software triggered my PTSD from working for Packard Bell Support in the 1990's. some of the longest support calls were dealing with the BSOD caused in win 95 and Paperport and only takes number two in the worst over the Aztec sound card modem combo. /shudder/

  • @DanLink9000
    @DanLink9000 7 місяців тому +60

    I live for that B🤓B drip.

    • @rommix0
      @rommix0 7 місяців тому +12

      One of the few times that nerd emoji was used in a non harassing way. I commend you sir.

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 7 місяців тому +5

      @@rommix0 it's the google one where he's not bucktoothed either lol, always thought that was the cooler nerd emoji

    • @rommix0
      @rommix0 7 місяців тому +1

      @@amirpourghoureiyan1637 I never really thought of that but yeah you would be right.

  • @twithnell
    @twithnell 7 місяців тому +37

    Having a scanner right at your keyboard that you can use at will would have been useful back in the day. It's still absurdly ridiculous though. If it works that is. lol

    • @anonymouschicken20
      @anonymouschicken20 7 місяців тому +5

      I have to walk to another room to reach my scanner, whereas with this gadget, I could have a scanner right on top of my keyb. That'd be neat.

    • @AmaroqStarwind
      @AmaroqStarwind 7 місяців тому

      And don’t forget the scanner mouse.

    • @Zodroo_Tint
      @Zodroo_Tint 7 місяців тому

      Why is it ridiculous if it is useful?

    • @AmaroqStarwind
      @AmaroqStarwind 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Zodroo_Tint “Useful” and “ridiculous”aren’t mutually exclusive.

  • @mbirth
    @mbirth 7 місяців тому +2

    Back then, I had a keyboard that had a calculator (with display) integrated into the numpad. And there was a key to turn the currently displayed result into keypresses. And it also had 20 macro keys that could be programmed with up to 20 keypresses each. Pretty awesome for the time.

  • @KingGameReview
    @KingGameReview 7 місяців тому +22

    You had me at "Weird 90s".

  • @DennisBottaro
    @DennisBottaro 7 місяців тому +1

    Seeing PaperPort in action after all these years brings back the memories. I had a stand-alone roll scanner quite like that one velcroed to the top of my CRT back in the day to scan into PaperPort. Did letters, bills, and all sorts of documents to create my "paperless home office of the future". Needless to say, that didn't really stick and now I have paper everywhere in my "office of the present"!

  • @kirbyyasha
    @kirbyyasha 7 місяців тому +11

    I have that Compaq scanner keyboard. Such a honker.

  • @JMVos
    @JMVos 6 місяців тому +2

    Oh wow dude, you look so fresh! You've evolved. Not sure how long I've been following, but it's been a while. Saw you produced 1200+ vids in total. That's quite the number. Love the stuff, keep it up!

    • @LGR
      @LGR  6 місяців тому +3

      Thank you, it’s been one heckuva journey all these years!

  • @artchic528
    @artchic528 7 місяців тому +18

    Clint is getting PTSD flashbacks to the printer video with the scanner keyboard. Poor guy.

    • @rommix0
      @rommix0 7 місяців тому +4

      While that video was enjoyable, I can imagine the pain getting that (useless) printer to work.

  • @lemagreengreen
    @lemagreengreen 7 місяців тому +1

    The packaging for that weird Compaq keyboard scanner pleases me, not seen that yellow cardboard since the 90s.

  • @al3k
    @al3k 7 місяців тому +127

    oh my gosh.. I thought I'd seen it all but a scanner in a keyboard? Just, come on... why the HELL isn't that in every house???? 🤣 I want one!

    • @Outmind01
      @Outmind01 7 місяців тому +37

      Sure beats having to buy a printer and have it turn into an oversized scanner anyway because the ink dries out.

    • @dsallen7914
      @dsallen7914 7 місяців тому +14

      For real though, tt's actually a perfect form factor for when you have a big pile of documents to scan. Makes the workflow a lot easier than pivot to flatbed, place doc on flatbed, wait for scan, pivot back to monitor, check if scan looks good, pivot back to flatbed, repeat. With this you can just sit in one place and do everything.

    • @enihi
      @enihi 7 місяців тому

      ​@@dsallen7914much prefer a feeder tray for scanning a lot of documents

    • @simmadpaul2880
      @simmadpaul2880 7 місяців тому

      Still doesn't make the coffee, tidy the office, and tuck you in at night. That's tuck you dirty minded nerd

    • @MrWolfSnack
      @MrWolfSnack 7 місяців тому

      @@Outmind01 Imagine being someone that doesn't know how to buy new ink.

  • @Andy-pu2iv
    @Andy-pu2iv 7 місяців тому +1

    I just love your channel, Clint. My trial by fire into computing was in the '90s, and it was pretty much this. All the time. Every day.
    I tip my hat to you, why you would want to torture yourself trying to get prehistoric gear to work "for fun" is beyond me. But I salute you for it! Great videos and very entertaining.

  • @AdamKing-k5z
    @AdamKing-k5z 7 місяців тому +4

    I watch LGR right before bed. It's so relaxing and I sleep well after. Thanks bro. One of the best on UA-cam.

  • @LordHonkInc
    @LordHonkInc 7 місяців тому +4

    OCR on a '90s scanner? Did not expect that... okay, looking at wikipedia it's not as exciting as I thought, the first commercial use going back to the '50s. Dunno why my brain thought OCR only became practical in the early 2000s. Either way, I'm pretty impressed; I have to do a lot of letterdigital correspondence even today, so I'd totally get good use out of that thing.

    • @Cherijo78
      @Cherijo78 7 місяців тому +3

      My first experience with OCR was in the late '80s, Maybe very early '90s, on a Compaq Deskpro 286 with a Logitech handheld grayscale Palm scanner. There was OCR with it. I remember what a trip it was to see this happening in front of me on a computer at the time.

  • @GameDesignerJDG
    @GameDesignerJDG 7 місяців тому +23

    Man. That printer messed you up. I'm detecting no small amount of anxiety around the Compaq scanner keyboard. God rest that printer's soul.

    • @LotoTheHero
      @LotoTheHero 7 місяців тому +8

      Remember, it was multiple models of the same printer, all non working. XD Three of them in all if I remember correctly.

    • @NFM1337
      @NFM1337 7 місяців тому

      ​@@LotoTheHero i think if he just gives it two or three more videos worth of effort, he'll get there. He shouldn't give up. I believe in him.

    • @sanityormadness
      @sanityormadness 7 місяців тому

      @@LotoTheHero Well, two the same and one close relation.

    • @renakunisaki
      @renakunisaki 7 місяців тому

      Printers are Satan.

  • @Cherijo78
    @Cherijo78 7 місяців тому +2

    I had one of those Green Acer Aspire desktops when I went to college in 1997! Bought it during my senior HS year while working. It was reasonably compact and not just beige. Mine had a Cyrix 6x86 in it. I played so much Quake on it lol! Sold it when I bought a Gateway Essentials P3-450 with Voodoo3 3000 with DVD player and mpeg 2 card a few years later. Good little machine!

  • @poikochan87
    @poikochan87 7 місяців тому +3

    the scanner keyboard is really neat! I'd have loved to have something like it back in the day :D

  • @hedgehog3180
    @hedgehog3180 7 місяців тому +1

    I like how the box for the scanner keyboard shows that using the scanner blocks the keyboard, if only there was some way to have the scanner besides the keyboard.

  • @Madpegasusmax
    @Madpegasusmax 7 місяців тому +3

    I can imagine the scanner keyboard used on a deskfront office that asks for a document to scan it , like a bank, assurances, and so on ... but I guess paper clips and staples killed the idea very quickly ...

  • @spiral_space
    @spiral_space 7 місяців тому

    Was not expecting to see an I-Ninja mention in an LGR video, even if it was just an ad. Thanks for showing us these wacky things!

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife 7 місяців тому +5

    A keyboard scanner would've made sense if it had built-in OCR and fed the text from the page into the computer via the keyboard port, like barcode scanners do.

  • @IOSARBX
    @IOSARBX 7 місяців тому

    LGR, Subscribed because your videos always make me smile!

  • @shocktnc
    @shocktnc 7 місяців тому +12

    7:24 These sounds truly convey the emotions of tech support issues.

    • @BigDrewski1000
      @BigDrewski1000 7 місяців тому

      Ikr? Lol. Laughed way harder than I probably should've because you just know he's having PTSD flashbacks to trying to get the printer working. 😂

  • @JeanTheron-cf8zl
    @JeanTheron-cf8zl 7 місяців тому

    Clint, I'm guessing the button on top of the scanner is for the latch mechanism holding the top closed. Also, it seems like the scanner component was built by Avision (Visioneer in North America). They used to mostly be an OEM, but produce their own range these days. And yes, still bundling their scanners with Paperport.

  • @Brunosky_Inc
    @Brunosky_Inc 7 місяців тому +2

    Is there any chance the keyboard scanner could be made to work on a modern device? It'd be pretty wild if modern computers could somehow detect that silly scanner by default

  • @AdvancePlays
    @AdvancePlays 7 місяців тому +1

    Interesting to see a full size keyboard scanner - I use one at work (in a bank) that scans small, wide aspect ratio papers like cheques and giro credits. What amazes me about it is just how good the keyboard itself is. It is a super chunky mechanical deal, no idea what switch mechanism it uses and don't want to risk hurting it to find out, but it's so nice to use. And the numpad is squarely *under* the alphabet keys.

    • @override7486
      @override7486 7 місяців тому

      no switch. It's membrane thing. NES pad style... or ZX Spectrum. Carbon conductive layer but with springs and other sci-fi.

    • @AdvancePlays
      @AdvancePlays 7 місяців тому

      @@override7486 I'm talking about the one I work with, not the one featured in the video 🙂

  • @TehSmokeyMan
    @TehSmokeyMan 7 місяців тому +9

    Yeah, don't worry; this is plenty enjoyable😄
    Heck you could start a series where you just grab a random thing from your Vault (...Hoard? Treasure Pile? Retro and Oldskool Awesomeness Room? Storage of Wildly Eclectic and Epic Treasures?) and talk about it and I'd like it (retro stuff and a great host? What's not to like?)😁

  • @floatingpoint
    @floatingpoint 7 місяців тому

    Fighting with drivers and trying to get weird peripherals working is every bit as much a part of the authentic 90s/2000s PC experience as bundled bloatware and edgy packaging. This video was great - release the third keyboard footage!

  • @bearserk4151
    @bearserk4151 7 місяців тому +2

    I would unironically love to have a keyboard/scanner hybrid, really cool stuff.

  • @HiddenRefuge
    @HiddenRefuge 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for covering these! The scanner keyboard is a surprisingly decent piece of hardware for it's time, if not for the drivers. But then again, most of hardware used to be like that - you plugged it in hoping it will work and it didn't, while running just fine on your friend's pc which often didn't even met all the spec requirements 🙃

  • @DS9TREK
    @DS9TREK 7 місяців тому +18

    MS Bob is taking over the channel..😮

    • @asystole_
      @asystole_ 7 місяців тому +2

      "Ms Bob"??? Even software has gone woke!!!!!! 😡
      /s

  • @RandomGreymane
    @RandomGreymane 7 місяців тому

    ANYTHING Paperport was absolutely maddening to support. Often scanners would disappear until you swapped them with another. Crashing software. Bad OCR that often worked like Newton handwriting recognition if it saw the wrong font. A ton of things. My favorite was a client that would just swap their scanners around all the time to keep them running. Oh the memories… XD

  • @TheAJKahn
    @TheAJKahn 7 місяців тому +2

    The keyboard scanner would be great for receipts and all. I could see office managers using this for bookkeeping.

  • @janneaalto3956
    @janneaalto3956 7 місяців тому +1

    I had a MS Natural keyboard and loved it, as I had bad CTS at the time. The only negative was the stiff and awkward Space bar.

  • @rastas_4221
    @rastas_4221 7 місяців тому +6

    You can hype mechanical keyboards to death for me, but my old Packard Bell laptop keyboard still feels absolutely magical to me and gives me the best WPM. 10+ years of using it for serious work did that.

  • @tedbragg74
    @tedbragg74 7 місяців тому

    Serial based peripherals like this scanner and Logitech’s handhelds were NOTORIOUS for being finicky. I had a bunch and only found relief with EPP and SCSI versions

  • @Zagura90
    @Zagura90 7 місяців тому +3

    As a long time LGR fan, it's hilarious to hear things like "a pain in the actual penis" it seems like you've become more lax with using expletives in the last year or so. I'm all for it.

  • @HadesTimer
    @HadesTimer 7 місяців тому +1

    As someone who has had some bad experiences with synaptic drivers I can say that alot of windows programs at the time had trouble with that. I had this problem with my touchpad on my laptop at the time. I hated it, I just used a regular mouse and bypassed it completely. This was windows 95-Windows 7.

  • @blackjack9612
    @blackjack9612 7 місяців тому +4

    The bobfit goes hard

  • @teng029
    @teng029 5 місяців тому

    My brother had that Acer keyboard for his Win95 machine. I always thought it was an odd device, but he was a fan of it.

  • @supertacosauce
    @supertacosauce 6 місяців тому +2

    "We JUST missed it" LMAO

  • @Velo1010
    @Velo1010 7 місяців тому +1

    I do love the verbiage companies used to advertise their products. Miss those days of the late 90’s to early 2000’s.

  • @borjesvensson8661
    @borjesvensson8661 7 місяців тому +3

    Love these videos

  • @Rocky1138
    @Rocky1138 7 місяців тому

    Thanks so much for calling out how great those Compaq keyboards felt to type on. My first computer was a Compaq and I loved that keyboard. It was broken so I lost it (or maybe threw it away?) and only just recently found a replacement. It needs a new membrane and I'm not sure if there are aftermarket membranes available or not.

  • @JohnSmith-xq1pz
    @JohnSmith-xq1pz 7 місяців тому +3

    A scanner keyboard? Didn't even know that was a thing
    Edit
    We had that Microsoft natural keyboard,I hated gaming on it and was so glad when I got my Logitech G15

  • @Dutch3DMaster
    @Dutch3DMaster 6 місяців тому

    Honestly, I might be mistaking, but that PaperPort piece of software looks surprisingly much like the software my grandpa got with his Brother or Canon printer-scanner-all-in-one thing.
    It even has the same name and while the interface got upgraded, some of the options were still there in the 2018 version or whenever that software was made.

  • @xenapaprika4555
    @xenapaprika4555 7 місяців тому +4

    As long as they don’t stop making these kind of things, I’m gonna keep coming back to your channel

  • @Daniel__Nobre
    @Daniel__Nobre Місяць тому

    Man, the sound of those old keys. I love it.

  • @ryanparrott6866
    @ryanparrott6866 7 місяців тому +9

    That "ergonomic" keyboard looks like it'd be a nightmare for me to get used to

    • @outtheredude
      @outtheredude 7 місяців тому

      Chyrosran22 enters the chat with the word "Waning!"

  • @R4to0
    @R4to0 7 місяців тому

    Poor Clint, being doomed with any scanners he touches. They never work first time or will always break later.

  • @eddiehimself
    @eddiehimself 7 місяців тому +8

    The reason those Compaq keyboards are so heavy is because they put a sheet of steel in it to weigh it down and make it more rigid lol. Also, they have n-key anti-ghosting which is nice for playing your retro games :)

    • @MrWolfSnack
      @MrWolfSnack 7 місяців тому +1

      Is that why I see Compaq keyboards going for idiot money? Never knew that.

    • @eddiehimself
      @eddiehimself 7 місяців тому +2

      @@MrWolfSnack yeah, I got mine for £20 but it was really badly yellowed so I had to take it apart and retrobright it. Hence how I found out about the steel sheet lol.

    • @Zodroo_Tint
      @Zodroo_Tint 7 місяців тому

      @@eddiehimself You talking like a teenage girl finishing your sentence with "lol".

    • @eddiehimself
      @eddiehimself 6 місяців тому

      @@Zodroo_Tint You sound like a bit of a sad cunt, caring about how people end their sentences on the internet.

  • @J45yu456
    @J45yu456 7 місяців тому +1

    LGR. Thanks for the great videos and Bird video stream !

  • @bluespartan076
    @bluespartan076 7 місяців тому +5

    7:12 im imagining dankpods yelling at this and saying "OH NOOOO my ultra cheap compaq scanner keyboard doesnt woorrrrrk! OHHHHH The biggest companies make the worst crap!" and then later: "YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT WORKS! WHAT A NUGGET!"

  • @penguin44ca
    @penguin44ca 7 місяців тому

    Man I miss the insane products of the 90s. Everything was possible, just keep trying until you get it!
    Also I had a nice flatbed scanner. It was that strange time when film was still the thing and digital cams were getting good enough.

  • @spongerobert
    @spongerobert 7 місяців тому +1

    A scanner keyboard isn't the absolute worst idea. I'd actually like one for my computer. If you really think about it, it's one of those things that could have changed the industry (think text input via handwritten pages for instance) but maybe it wasn't marketed correctly/technical issues.

  • @deadreaver666
    @deadreaver666 6 місяців тому +1

    I'm just going to go ahead and say it, that would have been convenient as hell back in the 1990s....

  • @I2ed3ye
    @I2ed3ye 7 місяців тому

    Funny enough the issues with the Compaq Keyboard Scanner was something I experienced in IT. The software would lock up looking for the device at a certain COM port on launch and not have a way to change it in a separate setup or file. So you'd fiddle with the device properties, relaunching, reinstalling, and replugging until the stars aligned and it acted like nothing was wrong after being a brick wall the entire time

  • @AndrewKatzmakes
    @AndrewKatzmakes 6 місяців тому

    Oh my, ancient PaperPort! Still around today, and a great piece of scanning software. Fascinating to see this older version

  • @WalrusFPGA
    @WalrusFPGA 7 місяців тому

    As someone that used the 10-key for FPS games and others in the 90's to 2000's, that Acer Future keyboard is very interesting. Love that it can so easily be positioned on the left side. That would have been perfect for me back in the day.