TROUBLED SOUTH AFRICAN AIRWAYS IS BACK!

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
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  • @luthermatsaluka7843
    @luthermatsaluka7843 Рік тому +65

    Ayy that's my mom in the thumbnail 😁❤️ Awesome video Josh, thanks a ton on her and the airlines behalf. Glad you had memorable flight and thank you for the wishes you passed onto the airline.

    • @ssego5208
      @ssego5208 Рік тому +10

      Cheers to your mom😊😊🎉🎉

  • @skywalker7778
    @skywalker7778 Рік тому +623

    An embarrassment to some South Africans who still remember the days SAA was awarded as the top airline of the world surpassing BA and Lufthansa. It's current state shows its current government. What a shame.

    • @gailgrimett2028
      @gailgrimett2028 Рік тому +60

      Absolutely. We were very proud of our airlines and our country.Not anymore.

    • @comrade9374
      @comrade9374 Рік тому +17

      ​@@gailgrimett2028not your country 😂

    • @tryingmybest206
      @tryingmybest206 Рік тому +18

      I can't find anywhere online saying it was ever awarded the top airline... which year? and which award?

    • @dealsfactory5289
      @dealsfactory5289 Рік тому +6

      ​@@tryingmybest206 Also can't find anything but came across this: "We have become a global airline whose excellence - 14 Skytrax awards acknowledging us as the best African airline and Africa's first 4 star airline..." published 2015. If "better" than BA, etc, it's probably referring to domestic flights which used to be offered by BA too.

    • @tryingmybest206
      @tryingmybest206 Рік тому +5

      ​@dealsfactory5289 Yeah i think you're right, but idk if Lufthansa has done domestic flights
      The airline has been named best airline in africa but never in the world

  • @petiojude012
    @petiojude012 Рік тому +121

    I flew with South African a couple weeks back and was extremely impressed. It was from Windhoek to JoBurg - excellent service, delicious meal, friendly crew. No complaints! Better than any short-haul service in Europe.

    • @Patshes
      @Patshes Рік тому +2

      🆒😎👍!😊

    • @BB-nw6cs
      @BB-nw6cs Рік тому +8

      Same here, flying between Lagos and Cape Town regularly. Much improved since its revival post-Covid, especially in cabin crew behaviour. Mixed crews (black and white), and I was served in my home language on the International legs, which was a welcome surprise. Flew both Business Class and Economy, with the option to buy the seat next to me in Economy, which I did with no hassels. Welcome back SAA.

    • @glenvanzyl8985
      @glenvanzyl8985 Рік тому +1

      Yep was most prob air link

    • @JuicyJLee
      @JuicyJLee Рік тому +1

      The amount of Haters here

    • @Sl33pykatzzz
      @Sl33pykatzzz Рік тому +1

      @@sleepyjoe5380i love in SA and found this offensive

  • @johanvandyk
    @johanvandyk Рік тому +106

    Nice to see. Love seeing friendly and passionate crew members. I really hope SAA returns to it’s former glory.

  • @itzhaktzvishohat7490
    @itzhaktzvishohat7490 Рік тому +42

    We fly SAA a couple of times a year from Johannesburgh to Cape Town and back. They are amazing with wheelchair service, knock on wood, taking care of me and my wheelchair each and every time. The service is so kind, they're always smiling and sharing laughter. They seem to have a joy in what they do, nothing is ever too much trouble. May SAA revitilization continue and strengthen as time goes by.

  • @Cpchurch87
    @Cpchurch87 Рік тому +31

    Took a South African airways flight once from Heathrow to Cape Town years ago (maybe 2008ish) and to this day it’s probably the best service I’ve ever experienced on a long haul. Multiple meals, snacks, drinks service, friendly crew. Honestly, it’s yet to be topped for service and I include some business class trips in that comment.

  • @Wolf-hh4rv
    @Wolf-hh4rv Рік тому +6

    What I remember from the Apartheid era SAA was the really beautiful air hostesses. Wow they were all knock outs. It used to be a first class air line. Today government officials steal all the money.

  • @fixpacifica
    @fixpacifica Рік тому +25

    I flew them between Miami and Cape Town and back in the late '90s. They were a fantastic airline back then.

    • @robert_nyc
      @robert_nyc 6 місяців тому +1

      I did in 1995 from Miami to Capetown F/C

  • @Michaelorwa
    @Michaelorwa Рік тому +43

    SAA is the best airline for me when it comes to service, lovely cabin crew. I flew them not too long ago and I got to have a chat with the pilots and even got a hold of their numbers. I can see things improving in future.

    • @RogerMackie-b7f
      @RogerMackie-b7f Рік тому

      You spoke to the pilots ? Presumably at the end of the flight as passengers not permitted on flight deck at any point and no professional pilot would ever reveal their contact to a stranger.

    • @vernongoodey5096
      @vernongoodey5096 Рік тому +2

      Do you actually travel with other European airlines or just other African airlines like Air Zimbabwe, which on my flight landed at Johannesburg with no undercarriage down! Mind you it was called Jan Smuts airport in those days!

    • @cedric9370
      @cedric9370 Рік тому +1

      "YOU' flew them? How did you manage to do that?

  • @JuicyJLee
    @JuicyJLee Рік тому +2

    Love the positive comments we just have to have hope for a better future

  • @michaelreid8857
    @michaelreid8857 Рік тому +76

    Glad to see that the crew is doing their part! SAA deserves a comeback. Hopefully they will modernize their fleet

  • @andrewveitch8515
    @andrewveitch8515 Рік тому +18

    When I lived in SA many years ago, SAA was THE Airline and was exceptional in every way. Their voyager program was awesome and service was outstanding. It was saddening to see its decline from afar to the point of operational cessation. I'm happy to hear they are flying again and with amazing flight crew like the ones you had on your flight, the airline can only get better. I trust that once the airline is again on a sound financial footing , the execs will purchase or even lease some new places to improve the overall product even that much more. I look forward to the day that I can fly back to the Mother City from the USA for a visit with SAA and experience this legendary airlines rebirth.

    • @michelleduplooymalherbe2837
      @michelleduplooymalherbe2837 Рік тому

      I STILL LIVE HERE AND I REMEMBER SAA BEING SO GOOD BUT NOW DAYS I PROMISE YOU THEY ARE LAST ON YOUR LIST AND THEY MIGHT HAVE IMPROVED SLIGHTLY BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE HERE IT WILL NOT LAST

  • @eduard1649
    @eduard1649 10 місяців тому +2

    I flew Accra to Johannesburg on SAA and it was all very good. On time, friendly staff and quiet. Good food, clean, really excellent.

  • @davidwebb4904
    @davidwebb4904 Рік тому +59

    If it stinks as bad as you suggest, that is not acceptable under any circumstances.

  • @annamika7
    @annamika7 Рік тому +102

    Josh, South African Airways has only been an airline on Life support since the present government took over running it as a State Owned Enterprise. Used to rank among the best in the world, not just Africa.

    • @comrade9374
      @comrade9374 Рік тому +9

      The past government didn't allow real South Africans to fly on them

    • @ytlurker220
      @ytlurker220 Рік тому +12

      @@comrade9374 what's that supposed to mean?

    • @annamika7
      @annamika7 Рік тому

      Ooooh! @@comrade9374 Please enlighten us, who these "real South Africans" are!

    • @robinfist
      @robinfist Рік тому +17

      @@comrade9374 you are implying that only a certain race group is actually South African. Don't be racist, please. And FYI - flew plenty of times on the older SAA with plenty of your supposed 'real South Africans' on board. So sad to see racist comment on here.

    • @comrade9374
      @comrade9374 Рік тому +5

      @@robinfist that's what you apply when you compare previous and present government as those times you mentioned it was only SAA for whites

  • @flyingwithace
    @flyingwithace 11 місяців тому +6

    I'm happy to see that SAA are trying to deliver a good quality service. The only way they will fully rebound is through passenger satisfaction, and of course avoiding issues that caused their problems in the past.

  • @hauer54
    @hauer54 Рік тому +32

    Over the years, I've totally lost confidence in their product and simply refuse to fly with them.

    • @georgeharcus8302
      @georgeharcus8302 8 місяців тому

      Yes me to and saa running at a lose for. Many years 2 bail out worth bilions of rands . ??

  • @puzzledzimbo
    @puzzledzimbo Рік тому +50

    Nice to see they're making an effort again. Would like to see more African carriers like Air Seychelles and Air Botswana

    • @toyotauris
      @toyotauris Рік тому +4

      id love to see an air seychelles review, especially on their a320neo

    • @eisbeinGermany
      @eisbeinGermany Рік тому

      but they still not flying international yet as its said, only in Africa at the moment, before covid their prices were more expensive than SWiss Air lufthansa Air francs

    • @Accuface2000
      @Accuface2000 Рік тому +1

      Who told you Seychelles and Botswana are better than other African countries? These are villages compared to other countries

    • @eisbeinGermany
      @eisbeinGermany Рік тому

      Air Botswana as far as I know only fly between Botswana and south Africa

    • @eisbeinGermany
      @eisbeinGermany Рік тому

      @@Accuface2000 as far as I know Air Botswana only has fixed prop engined planes and only fly between Botswana and South Africa

  • @lloydmorgan7152
    @lloydmorgan7152 Рік тому +20

    I flew SAA to Mauritius and back on their A340 in Business and apart from the cabin being dated everything else was absolutely amazing:)

    • @eisbeinGermany
      @eisbeinGermany Рік тому

      i flew SAA in July 2019, was a good flight and good food,friendly crew between germany and SA,

  • @charliesadv8493
    @charliesadv8493 Рік тому +18

    South African Airways was always an excellent airline, until it was run into the ground due to corruption and theft by government and SAA management. And the staff unfortunately had to pay the price

    • @michelleduplooymalherbe2837
      @michelleduplooymalherbe2837 Рік тому +2

      THAT IS ALWAYS THE CASE - SO SAD - THE FAT CATS GET FATTER AND THE CITIZENS PAY THE PRICE - SHOW ME ONE AFRICAN COUNTRY WHERE THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.....

  • @freshwaterfishman
    @freshwaterfishman Рік тому +14

    Not as bad as our national airline in Australia, QANTAS. They’ve recently been caught selling tickets on flights that they had already cancelled and then refusing to give refunds, rather they give you Qantas vouchers, which expire in 12 months.

    • @travismailsa1
      @travismailsa1 11 місяців тому

      I had a friend fly from Aus back to SA for a 3 month visit, this happened to her with her return flight. Gave her a voucher

  • @joannharrington2279
    @joannharrington2279 Рік тому +20

    Most people can overlook some things but bad smells just stay there. Hopefully the airline will notice your review and check into why it smelt so bad. That is the main reason I avoid seats by the bathroom. Glad the rest of the flight went well. Hopefully this airline will figure out the kinks and be another successful airline. Safe travels.

  • @derekhalford187
    @derekhalford187 Рік тому +107

    Really sad to see the demise of a once world class airline that was well maintained, profitable, professional and a joy to use. Well done ANC for delivering sh^t, oh how you've progressed!

    • @Allahuakbarx1000
      @Allahuakbarx1000 Рік тому +5

      Did u even watch his review?

    • @francosmith9326
      @francosmith9326 Рік тому +2

      Nope lol@@Allahuakbarx1000

    • @nielbehrens44
      @nielbehrens44 Рік тому +11

      The airline did not fail due to bad services. It failed due to corrupt individuals that stole all the money. AKA SOE in RSA

    • @Allahuakbarx1000
      @Allahuakbarx1000 Рік тому

      @@bernardfitzsimons6942 burn

    • @Allahuakbarx1000
      @Allahuakbarx1000 Рік тому

      Anyway, experience wise, this guy had a good flight with SAA. Well done. Every goverment around the world is just as rotten as the ANC if not worse. The west is rotten.

  • @sphelele4918
    @sphelele4918 Рік тому +11

    Even a troubled SAA is still better than many airlines. Love them so much - best service, amazing crew.

  • @MalutitheDj
    @MalutitheDj Рік тому +6

    For a former Aircraft Maintenance employee of this airline... I have to say, I miss the old days and would join in it if a chance arise.

  • @brinleyharriss8423
    @brinleyharriss8423 Рік тому +41

    As a South African who used to fly SAA quite often I really hope that, with the privatisation of the airline, it can not only return to its former glory, but become one of the best airlines in not only africa but the world. They have the potential to do great things.

    • @andreipretorius92
      @andreipretorius92 Рік тому +1

      They really do. They connect so many countries together. It used to be an amazing airline. Let’s try and get back to it

    • @Cent51
      @Cent51 Рік тому +4

      😂😂😂😂😂 , never.. as long as grubby anc have friends and family connection nothing will be fixed..

    • @thandisilec835
      @thandisilec835 11 місяців тому +1

      SA Airways is still SA Government owned

    • @witsend008
      @witsend008 8 місяців тому

      Privatised ? Pravin Gordhan still has his sticky fingers in SAA. Don't underestimate the governments fetish to stuff up solid anything they touch .

  • @VibeFlix215
    @VibeFlix215 Рік тому +22

    As a South African, I truly understand your pain because the airline hasn't been that much active during the past 3 years, mostly because of corruption and lack of funding. We have highly trained staff and chefs. Airlink is just some ordinary airline 😂. SAA has new owners so you can expect better service

  • @thabomabuza7340
    @thabomabuza7340 Рік тому +10

    8:39 Ey! You were in a flight with one of the funniest comedians in S.A! Skhumba Hlophe😂

  • @anearangies2969
    @anearangies2969 Рік тому +82

    I am South African and I will not fly with SAA even if you pay me to do so. The airline owns only 4 planes...all the rest is leased. I feel sorry for the crew...to deliver excellent service (with a smile) under tough circumstances...
    Personally I lost confidence in the airline. Its a real pitty.

    • @bardo0007
      @bardo0007 Рік тому +20

      As a SA you should support it, be proud of it and maybe in a few years time we will all be flying them.

    • @leeklass3907
      @leeklass3907 Рік тому +15

      Aircraft can be leased just because iits painted in the carriers livery it dose not mean they own them a large portion of aircraft are owned by leassors or banks.

    • @rameezkhan4954
      @rameezkhan4954 Рік тому +16

      Many airlines lease as new aircrafts can be in the hundred of million of dollars. So not owning a large fleet is not really uncommon.

    • @flywithAC2312
      @flywithAC2312 Рік тому +7

      There is no such thing as credit. You may be referring to leasing which is globally the preferred model of operating an aircraft.

    • @anearangies2969
      @anearangies2969 Рік тому +1

      @@flywithAC2312 thank you for the correct term, I did edit my comment. Appreciated.

  • @TheDuncanmacster
    @TheDuncanmacster Рік тому +1

    In March we needed to travel from Cape Town back to Johannesburg. We decided to drive.

  • @that-plane-guy
    @that-plane-guy Рік тому +43

    South African is an incredible airline. I wish them all the best for the future! May they return to their former glory

    • @rc70ys
      @rc70ys Рік тому +6

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @pamberinehondo9447
      @pamberinehondo9447 Рік тому

      Just when you thought that you had seen the bottom of the barrel, this country delivers again. It will never be back again. Corruption and inept leadership will make sure of that 😂

    • @eisbeinGermany
      @eisbeinGermany Рік тому

      but not as an SAA-ANC-run airline, ,lol, i flew SAA in July 2019 and was so surprised on the good food and friendly staff, other times only on SWiss -Lufthansa and the food was so bad and stuck up crew,

  • @kindeveryone
    @kindeveryone Рік тому +5

    Usually if there is a small technical problem causing bad small etc, pilots mention it and apologize. I would be some what nervous to fly SAA, knowing how corrupt & incompitant SA has become, I don't think I could trust their aircraft maintenance.

  • @ricardomejia4336
    @ricardomejia4336 Рік тому +8

    flew the same route on the same equipment in july. the flight was pleasant. the crew was friendly. the hard product was fine. look forward to flying on them again. SA is among my favorite places in the world 🇿🇦❤️ also i was surprised when you’re airlink review came out as i had very pleasant experiences with them in economy class. i flew on them 4 times throughout my time in southern africa.

  • @RichieRouge206
    @RichieRouge206 Рік тому +21

    I was born and raised in South Africa. The first flight I ever took was in 1984 on a 747-200 with SAA from Joburg to Manchester and that naturally was around the coast and took so long. The current standards don’t surprise me because South Africa is sadly falling apart at the seams. It breaks my heart. Great video Josh

  • @leighowen4345
    @leighowen4345 11 місяців тому +15

    My dad was a captain for SAA and flew for them for 37yrs. I am glad that he is not around to see the absolute collapse of this once wonderful airline😢. It is highly unlikely that they will ever have the money to buy a new fleet as there is just to much corruption and theft👎
    There are still a number of good employees and as you said, they work with what they have.

  • @thesportlad
    @thesportlad Рік тому +8

    Perfect video Josh! Haven't been on the SA Airways but I wish good luck to them. You've done a great job by highlighting every detail. Thank you and keep em coming! ❤

  • @giovanniziboni3371
    @giovanniziboni3371 Рік тому +3

    SAA is a reflection of The Country in General.

    • @Carol-rh5jd
      @Carol-rh5jd 26 днів тому

      True Airline reflection of the decline of the county

  • @TheRareVideosXL
    @TheRareVideosXL Рік тому +11

    I love South African Airways and wish them all the best for the future.

  • @rockspyder3970
    @rockspyder3970 Рік тому +11

    Forever dead, at the hands of the cancerous, corrupt ANC. From the old days when SAA pilots and cabin crew were considered some of the world’s finest, to the present day of affirmative action quotas where skills and training is a mere formality, where all that matters, is who your family is. Angering, frustrating, heartbraking. But SAA is forever dead.

    • @well-blazeredman6187
      @well-blazeredman6187 Рік тому

      Maybe. My late mother used to speak very warmly about her SAA flights. I seem to recall her thinking they were right up there with Cathay. The best airline in Africa? Seems to be Ethiopian.

    • @rockspyder3970
      @rockspyder3970 Рік тому +4

      @@well-blazeredman6187 Indeed. SAA in the past was a great airline. I flew with them from the time of the orange tails, up to the days of the new livery after the flag was changed. It still went OK until Zuma’s girlfriend took over, and it just plummeted from there. It is hard to believe how utterly destructive bad politics can be

  • @traviseveritt9902
    @traviseveritt9902 Рік тому +24

    It will NEVER be what it once was!
    As a South African, I wouldn’t step a foot on one of those old aircraft.
    Good review Josh!
    Safair (flying Springbok) is a GOOD local domestic carrier is South Africa.

    • @andreipretorius92
      @andreipretorius92 Рік тому +9

      Not with that attitude. We can have hope. With the right management SAA can be an award winning airline again

    • @maburwanemokoena7117
      @maburwanemokoena7117 Рік тому +4

      @@andreipretorius92 It will be good again, with better management. As a South African, I know.

    • @phaks9529
      @phaks9529 Рік тому

      why bother , what's nice is abroad they don't care about entitled people like you. go back South Africa doesn't need such

    • @MarkoVukovic0
      @MarkoVukovic0 Рік тому +1

      @@andreipretorius92 if only the ANC wasn't involved, which they still are. Just look at who the shareholders are.

    • @arlenespencer5850
      @arlenespencer5850 Рік тому

      ​@@andreipretorius92😂

  • @TaylenIsInsane
    @TaylenIsInsane Рік тому +11

    I've flown with SAA a couple years back, and it was great. I'm flying down to Johannesburg with United at the end of this year, to see my parents. But I've also booked a trip with SAA to Mauritius, for me and my parents. Can't wait to see how SAA have improved.

    • @linsampson6340
      @linsampson6340 Рік тому

      left a tape recorder on a SAA plane some years ago and it was brought to my door by a member of the team, a middle aged Afrikaans woman, those were the days. Over now.

    • @eisbeinGermany
      @eisbeinGermany Рік тому

      i flew JUly 2019 SAA just before it went bang, and food was great and crew was so friendly, Swiss Air Lugthnasa food is bad and the crew are so stuckup,

    • @eisbeinGermany
      @eisbeinGermany Рік тому

      definitely long before 1994 i will say, @@linsampson6340

  • @jacksonm.6549
    @jacksonm.6549 Рік тому +7

    Thanks for the review. As a local, I travel budget airlines and am curious what a proper SAA business class flight is like. I've lost count of the number of times we the taxpayers have had to bail out this unprofitable airline.
    In budget airlines we get 1 class (all seats economy), no free food or drinks (all for sale). It's fine because the flight is only 2 hours long. There's also no IFE (or screens) for anyone, and you have to pay for checking in luggage because your ticket only gets you carry on. What you flew is what the minority of travelers between the 2 cities experience and I'm glad you shared it with us!

    • @eisbeinGermany
      @eisbeinGermany Рік тому

      i flew 2015/16 Germany -SA , Swiss air and Lufthnasa, and Jan 2018 and July 2018, then i found in April 2019 on Google Flights SAA flight on the same route as being cheapest and l few July 2019 on SAA , what a pleasant surprise, food was excellent and friendly crew, the other 2 airlines food was bad, Oct 2022 same route SWiss air, eish food was so bad,

  • @virginiafry9854
    @virginiafry9854 Рік тому +3

    Why complain about the IFE only having 4 movies - the entire flight is only 2 hours long!?!?!?!?!?

  • @kevindevilliers3572
    @kevindevilliers3572 Рік тому +2

    Airlink. You're wrong. By far the best Domestic Airline we've ever had.

  • @woozhiy
    @woozhiy Рік тому +3

    fun fact, over here in South Africa if a company is run and maintained by the government it is gonna go to absolute sh#t.. Our post offices, railroad systems, SAA, Eskom. South Africa's GDP hasn't even risen by 5% since 2008 and our entire infrastructure is on the verge of total collapse, what wonders the ANC has done for South Africa

  • @MagnusPaul1976
    @MagnusPaul1976 Рік тому +4

    As a South African Citizen, residing in South Africa, can I just say that the skies of South African Airways, have not been friendly since April 1994 ? The crew staff on board the aircraft are quite rude, arrogant and get familiar with the passengers paying top dollar for a ticket and this is just the tip of the iceberg of some of the problems plaguing this state-owned entity. 98% of the crew staff are black, maybe one white crew member, two coloured crew members and seldom would you see an Indian crew member on board any flight. So, there is not an even percentage split between all ethnic groups/races employed as crew staff. Corruption and theft killed South African Airways and it will happen again... Guaranteed !

  • @avuazahc1966
    @avuazahc1966 Рік тому +10

    Great to here a positive review from u for SAA. Employees have the energy to take SAA to glory days, hoping management wont smoke weed again when making company decisions.

  • @normanmcleod7169
    @normanmcleod7169 Рік тому +35

    Sadly, in view of the entrenched corruption, I believe it will always be one step forward and 2 steps back with SAA.

    • @fulvia1454
      @fulvia1454 Рік тому

      😢 ...

    • @katweaselproductions6924
      @katweaselproductions6924 Рік тому

      What do you think made SAA so cool in the old days = massive corruption - keeping a loss making company in the air by ripping off and economically destroying the majority of its population.

  • @sandratarmamade5420
    @sandratarmamade5420 Рік тому +2

    Back in times I did fly with South African Airways from Johannesburg to London Hilthrow and back. And also from Johannesburg to Port Elizabeth and back. And September 2022 from Johannesburgto to Cape Town and back. . I realy like the service and everything. I wish them all the best.

  • @AndriesZA
    @AndriesZA Рік тому +14

    Hi there Josh, hope you are keeping well.... I have your channel running while I'm in office and this was a surprise to see this "SAA" flight review.
    As a South African taxpayer and seeing how billions of our Tax funds are poured into this big black hole "SAA" I unfortunately need to say the SA Government just needs to close this disaster down.
    It makes continued losses and as such there will be no improvement or upgrades to any of the equipment or services.
    The ANC government is insistent on trying to bring the airline back to life for their own beneficial reasons, free official flights.
    The current airline is not even a shadow of what the once "Best African Airline" was.
    I used to fly SAA 2 decades ago and their disaster "none rewards" rewards program convinced me to use other airlines. I have never looked back since changing...
    Domestically their are far better options to use than SAA or Airlink.
    Even if SAA would hand out free tickets, I would rather decline. Time to wrap up this sorry show... close it down for good and save all SA tax payers money.
    Give the license to a private operator that can do a much better job to run a profitable airline as the SA Government can't even keep the water running never mind a complex thing like and airplane....

    • @lamp07
      @lamp07 Рік тому +2

      Agree....next the sorry SABC... we do NOT need it!!

    • @simpslayer7839
      @simpslayer7839 Рік тому +2

      It’s being a private entity for 3 years now. You want the gov to shut down a private enterprise?

    • @MarkoVukovic0
      @MarkoVukovic0 Рік тому

      @@simpslayer7839 not entirely. Govt still has a controlling share. And then there's the matter of the former finance minister being the chairman of one of the shareholding co's. This already has the ANC stink to it.

    • @simpslayer7839
      @simpslayer7839 Рік тому

      @@MarkoVukovic0 Regardless the gov still owns a share in SAA it’s mostly privately owned which is better. We could argue about it being fully privately owned.
      Entities in South Africa such as Gautrain,Reayaviaya & Telkom which are split 50% private 50%public are doing well. SAA is in a trajectory of getting better, this is the second vid of a foreigner I’ve seen praising SAA that I have seen though this guy was more critical

    • @MarkoVukovic0
      @MarkoVukovic0 Рік тому

      @@simpslayer7839 meanwhile, we, the taxpayers are still funding billions of SAA debt, and will be for a while.

  • @shirlzdey951
    @shirlzdey951 Рік тому +15

    As a South African, sorry I will give this airline a miss. I have nothing positive to say about it.

  • @laurab1089
    @laurab1089 Рік тому +1

    The flight attendants were lovely..
    All smiles which I appreciate. 😊

  • @tobyprice1092
    @tobyprice1092 Рік тому +4

    I flew SAA from LHR to JNB and thought they were OK pre covid. I flew with them again LAD to JNB and they were very good on a 3am flight. Food again good. Only issue was the attendant sound asleep behind me on three seats.

    • @eisbeinGermany
      @eisbeinGermany Рік тому

      i flew SAA- Munich -Joburg in July 2019, and other times in JUNE 2015, July 2016 Jan 2018 -July 2018 only Swiss-Lufthansa, SAA food was ten times better than the other 2 airlines, SAA gave out a plastic packet with a Small Colgate toothpaste-fold up a toothbrush and an eye patch, flew Oct 2022 same route again SWiss air, wow the food was terrible, stuck up crew, now May 2023 air france same route oh my goodness, food even worse, a hard dried out bun, hard cheese, what i find to bad of Lufthansa they take back the headphones pre-landing, i still am flabbergasted,

    • @emilschneider9974
      @emilschneider9974 Рік тому +1

      I had a good laugh re the sound a sleep attendant.😂

  • @VuyoBaliso.
    @VuyoBaliso. 10 місяців тому +1

    I've read somewhere that they are leased from another airline , that's why there's scratches also wear & tear .

  • @peterspca90732
    @peterspca90732 Рік тому +2

    Josh your reviews are really awesome and honest! You help me choose airlines based on your reviews! Thank you

  • @alexandermutune6131
    @alexandermutune6131 Рік тому +2

    What happened to a once in a time successful 'south African Airways'?I suppose it's demise was mostly contributed by corruption common in government institutions in SA.

  • @UndoneUndone-m1s
    @UndoneUndone-m1s Рік тому +1

    That’s a bitter pill to swallow- South_ Africa Airways was the best in the world. It was like walking into a hospital and the pilots, no comparison !!!

  • @jeanmeiring
    @jeanmeiring Рік тому +1

    You're a braver man than me for flying SAA.

  • @stphinkle
    @stphinkle 5 місяців тому +1

    Oddly this flight is really from Matroosfontein to Kempton Park!

  • @philipross7631
    @philipross7631 Рік тому +9

    Hi Josh! Very good vlog on SAA. Years ago they were a world leading airline and I hope they can get back to that. Similar story perhaps to Air India who were fantastic along time ago. Think you are the best Airline blogger! Take care and keep up the good work. You are so lucky to live in Sri Lanka, one of my favourite places in the World. I live in the very cold NE England!

  • @claytonwatson260
    @claytonwatson260 Рік тому +2

    Having grown up in South Africa I witnessed how our government and SAA grew and evolved, Untill it became SA's biggest kamikaze flight in history.

  • @joellefa1147
    @joellefa1147 Рік тому +1

    Honestly South Africa don't Always dissapoint in anything 1 could imagine even Formula 1🏎️🏁🏁 race track are there. Indeed South Africa is the Big Giant of AFRICA🤞🤞🤞👏👏👏😃😃

    • @witsend008
      @witsend008 8 місяців тому

      Oh jes ! Even the sofas are stuffed with Dollars !

  • @susanjoubert3315
    @susanjoubert3315 Рік тому +3

    My daugther was a pilot with SAA….sad when money was not spend right. So many people lost there jobs😢

  • @sebinamuwanga
    @sebinamuwanga Рік тому +2

    There is a lot of passenger traffic between CPT and Johannesburg. Before the pandemic, SAA frequently operated the A 340-600 on that sector.

  • @sararaftery3729
    @sararaftery3729 Рік тому +1

    i didnt even realize what had happened with saa...once upon a time they were one of a selection of airlines i would feel safe flying with

  • @antonvisagie5633
    @antonvisagie5633 Рік тому +1

    That probably one of my most favourite domestic lounge

    • @woutergijs5246
      @woutergijs5246 Рік тому

      Oh yes, that lounge and food looked great. Sadly enough no details such as resting areas, showers, toilets, power outlets etcetera

  • @declankelly6509
    @declankelly6509 Рік тому +2

    Glad you enjoyed it.
    It’s cost us taxpayers hundreds of billions, so I’m happy it wasn’t totally crap.

  • @wilcovaneeden8469
    @wilcovaneeden8469 Рік тому +29

    I will give our national carrier, SAA, a huge miss. My onboard safety is a priority, and I don't believe that SAA aircraft (the few remaining older birds) offer an acceptable safety standard. What has risen from the post Covid ashes is a mere skeleton of the original and world-famous SAA yes, they are bravely spreading their wings ... without the funding to obtain new longhaul aircraft. SAA is a stillborn baby 👶. Thank you, Josh, for your honest review !

    • @fjtpersian6566
      @fjtpersian6566 Рік тому +8

      They have a better Safety record than most Asian and some European carriers.

    • @lastmanstanding9389
      @lastmanstanding9389 Рік тому +3

      So how come SAA services several international airlines aircraft with 100% safety record, you're just full of it.

    • @kwaru1
      @kwaru1 Рік тому +1

      Airlines are generally very safe. The safety standards they have to meet are quite robust. The business end is something else though

    • @flywithAC2312
      @flywithAC2312 Рік тому +3

      This sounds more like an assumption than a pursue of facts. SAA is supported by possibly one of the largest Maintenance, Repair and Overhaul centres globally (SAA Technical) which during SAA's bankruptcy, continued to operate as one of the leading 3rd party service solutions for major airlines globally. SAA's safety standards have never been questioned & SAA Technical's great work is the reason for that

    • @ericmorris3796
      @ericmorris3796 Рік тому +1

      Wilco, you probably want to then give the European carriers who fly into South Africa a miss as well as some of the middle eastern carriers. When they require maintenance, it is usually SAA Technical they make use of.

  • @jamesstewart4402
    @jamesstewart4402 Рік тому +2

    Hi Josh, great informative video as always. As a South African, I have flown many tips both local and International. I do wish for SAA to rise once again, however with the past corruption, I will will first wait and see how they develop before making any booking. Bon voyage, J

  • @johnlavery6116
    @johnlavery6116 Рік тому +1

    The best airline that I have flown with, the service was excellent, and the food was the best .....Ireland.

  • @matthewsongloong9573
    @matthewsongloong9573 11 місяців тому +1

    Flew SAA from JNB to WDH: plane was bit dated, but food was good :) What sucks are the frequent flyer miles taking ages to be credited to my Miles & More...

  • @tonyaolsen1844
    @tonyaolsen1844 Рік тому +2

    South African airways was a top class airline in its day
    .. I doubt very much it can ever be matched again!!

    • @StonedUp1
      @StonedUp1 4 місяці тому +1

      A top airline during apartheid. Get my drift?

  • @redtitan6184
    @redtitan6184 Рік тому +1

    The loo review for any airline's aircraft is needed.

  • @jamesburns9706
    @jamesburns9706 Рік тому +1

    I took a great flight on SAA on a 747 from JFK to JNB back in 2002.

  • @collenfisher3635
    @collenfisher3635 Рік тому +2

    Still won't touch SAA with a barge pole!!!!

  • @naman6785
    @naman6785 Рік тому +3

    When are you coming to Angola 🇦🇴 again, the aviation community is waiting for you!!

  • @danmcbride6258
    @danmcbride6258 Рік тому +1

    With your comment about a strong urine smell, I was astonished that you went to the Lav for a review and there was no followup comment. I have always heard the South African Flag Carrier was very good.

  • @EhsanMusic
    @EhsanMusic Рік тому +4

    So the flight stunk of urine but it's good?

    • @bardo0007
      @bardo0007 Рік тому +1

      My guess it was only in the beginning of the flight , as it was not mentioned when he visited the loo....

  • @hedleyfurio
    @hedleyfurio Рік тому +1

    Main concerns would be 1. Who does the maintenance 2. What level of experience do those in the cockpit have as hundreds of senior captains and pilots with 1000’s of hours flight time were dumped and the government imposed race based employment in SA 2.0

    • @emilschneider9974
      @emilschneider9974 Рік тому

      Probably toll booth operators, ex heads of municipality and school teachers...

  • @LofoDub54
    @LofoDub54 Рік тому +4

    Hope to see them back in Zurich one day!

    • @woutergijs5246
      @woutergijs5246 Рік тому +1

      Hm… coincidence: Europeans fly a lot on Edelweiss’ A-340 to South Africa through Zurich - at very low fares - 550 € return CDG for example

    • @LofoDub54
      @LofoDub54 Рік тому

      ​@@woutergijs5246and Swiss flies to JNB. But it is time Edelweiss and Swiss get their A350. Soon...

  • @davidt.5632
    @davidt.5632 11 місяців тому +1

    Hi you should try traveling with Air Caraïbes, Corsair and French Bee. 😁. I would like to see your expérience and opinion on Air Caraïbes, Corsair and French Bee.
    One thing it's missing on your opinion it's the speed of baggage deliveries, that is to say if when you check in your luggage in businnes, you receive it as a priority

  • @rhodaborrocks1654
    @rhodaborrocks1654 Рік тому +11

    The last time I flew SAA's domestic product was 20 years ago and the bad experience is still too fresh in my mind to want to risk repeating it. In my experience the best domestic product was Comair/BA/Kulula but they went under during the pandemic, sadly they didn't have access to public funding to keep them alive.

    • @woutergijs5246
      @woutergijs5246 Рік тому +1

      Kulula was fun ! With the MD-80’s and the teenage flight attendants in polo shirts and the funny safety remarks.

    • @eisbeinGermany
      @eisbeinGermany Рік тому

      i flew SAA July 2019 Germany -SA just before going Bang, and was A great flight, , before that Only flew Swiss Air and Lufthansa on the same routes, the food on SAA was 10 times better and the friendly staff in comparison to SWiss and Lufthansa stuck up crew, , i flew Oct 2022 again SWiss air on same route, wow the food was terrible, now May 23 Air France on the same route, the food was terrible, so i hope SAA can fly again international soon, if the prices are good, as before gong bang they were more expensive than other flights,

    • @rhodaborrocks1654
      @rhodaborrocks1654 Рік тому

      @@eisbeinGermany That's interesting, I've flown Swiss before and I thought they were fantastic, but this was back in the late '70s and SAA were consistently good then too, lovely food as you say, so times change and I guess all outfits have their good and bad days?

    • @eisbeinGermany
      @eisbeinGermany Рік тому +2

      @@rhodaborrocks1654 as i said in my comments i flew SWiis-lufthansa in 2015/16/ in 2018 twcie, and Oct 2022 SWiss again both ways and really food was bad, Supper is ok,but breakfasts are bad, SAA food was tops, ok that was pre bankruptcy -2019,

  • @luckystriker7489
    @luckystriker7489 11 місяців тому +1

    I flew SAA business class from Johannesburg to Frankfurt to visit the Messe just before lockdown in 2020 and the flight was amazing. My return flight was again business class but on Lufthansa. SAA was better. Nowadays I'm not so sure if SAA is still as good. British Airways business class can be unpredictable. Sometimes it's great, sometimes it's dire!

  • @sachavere6523
    @sachavere6523 Рік тому +4

    My girlfriend was an air hostess during the old SAA airways and she saw a rapid decline from when it became the new SAA ,some BEE appointed stewardesses slackening off in there duties specially on international flights, a rapid decline in on board conditions !! Eventhough she loved her job , it became just too stressful .

  • @flywithAC2312
    @flywithAC2312 Рік тому +2

    It is likely that we will see this A330 on the JNB/CPT - Sao Paulo route which will be interesting as there will be a chance to see an extended version of the SAA hospitality! Should be a good review coming up!

    • @andreipretorius92
      @andreipretorius92 Рік тому

      Finally we can get back to South America. Without SAA or LATAM, it is hard to get there. Ethiopian airlines is great but it’s a far flight

  • @truthteller8459
    @truthteller8459 Рік тому +3

    A successful airline in ANY African country? Talk about a miracle.

    • @woutergijs5246
      @woutergijs5246 Рік тому +1

      Thought that Ethiopian and Kenyan doing OK?

  • @Michael.Chapman
    @Michael.Chapman Рік тому +1

    Thank you Josh for letting us hear lots of that superb growl from the Royce Trent turbines on departure from Cape Town :-) Not so keen on the odour you mentioned nor the grungy lack of cleanliness and movies…

  • @ahmedmahomed
    @ahmedmahomed Рік тому +4

    Why don't you try Lift airways?
    Speaking as South african.

  • @janellek21
    @janellek21 Рік тому +3

    The ZA government doesn't have the money to fund a large state-run airline. If SAA wants to return to its former glory its best bet is either to privatise or sell a large share to another carrier such as EK, TK or IGA.

    • @ianrundle5862
      @ianrundle5862 Рік тому

      They have supposedly privatized - kind of🤔

  • @peterabbott1974
    @peterabbott1974 Рік тому +1

    One of the stewards clocked you as soon as you sat down that’s why the stuff was that nice to😊

  • @LindieBotes
    @LindieBotes Рік тому

    Thanks for such a comprehensive review, this was so fun to watch! I didn't even know they were back, lol. 4 movies is such an embarrassment...

  • @teazerfemi
    @teazerfemi Рік тому

    Thanks so much Josh Cahill, I wish nothing but the best for South African airways

  • @luu_tee
    @luu_tee Рік тому

    The times I had been onboard SAA from Malawi to RSA, the encounters were just marvelous.

  • @celesteleroux9046
    @celesteleroux9046 Рік тому +1

    Airlink is not SAA. I travel to Cape regularly. I have never seen a dirty cabin

  • @brianboyle2681
    @brianboyle2681 Рік тому +5

    I wouldn’t expect a plane to take off at all if there was that kind of smell of urine. Surely there is a likely biohazard issue?

    • @nothing56644
      @nothing56644 Рік тому +1

      Biohazard is not a issue in SA

    • @omahabred9466
      @omahabred9466 Рік тому +2

      I flew on an American Airlines in Texas once, trust me urine wasn’t the worst smell, but you’re right it shouldn’t be allowed.

  • @joecruiser
    @joecruiser Рік тому +2

    SAA?
    I'd rather walk!
    Kept afloat by the SA Taxpayer for the ANC Ministars.

  • @rockefeller1787
    @rockefeller1787 Рік тому

    I flew with South African Airlines not too long ago best service and amazing crew to be honest.. it’s amazing

  • @shaneolivier1650
    @shaneolivier1650 Рік тому

    Very interesting and thanks for your comment, looking forward to hear that we are back on track and the very best in the world 👌

  • @robert_nyc
    @robert_nyc 6 місяців тому

    In 1995 I flew SAA from Miami to Capetown First Class even then service was dismal.

  • @jcaam8094
    @jcaam8094 Рік тому +1

    I had no odea they were down to only 8 aircraft, hope the future brings them good fortune.

    • @4evertrue830
      @4evertrue830 Рік тому

      At least that is better than my country that boast of being the giant of Africa, Nigeria. We don't have a national airline and the local domestic ones, sucks.