Such a classic engine, I honestly can't get over how amazing these Detroit Diesel 2 Cycle Engines are. They can be a little picky in the cold since they don't have glow plugs or an intake heater. They rely entirely on compression. Great video though.
The MC9 was the final nail in the coffin of Eagle Bus Company. I think it was in 82 that MCI introduced the MC9 with the full stainless stainless steel skeleton along with a lot of corrosion resistant panels. It became the workhorse for the biggest fleets in the Northeast. Amazing how many are still running in commercial motorcoach service even today.
Nope! The Silver Eagle sales or quality never once declined before or after the introduction of the MC9 (1978). There are still plenty of Eagles flying around mostly in the entertainment RV categories. Any true bus nut will tell you it was combination of dog eat dog -no I meant bird, meaning Greyhound had a great hand in the matter. Almost as many eagles were manufactured as mc9 before the 1990’s. At any rate the MC9 was from the MC8 Crusader/Americruiser platform. The MC9 was a Crusader#2/Americruiser2 .
@@marvinjgerald6007 I am a bus nut considering that I own a charter company. The Eagle was junk compared to MC9’s . Eagles were rust buckets with piss poor torsalastic suspensions
@@Wingnut353 that’ll be no big deal given that the Eagle has long been out of production. Sir any same aged MCI bus would have just as much rust -give or take. In fact a MCI bus as recent as a year 2000 could have major rust issues -especially around the suspension subframe to body frame welds. So much so that MCI issued a recall edite to weld reinforce plates over the suspension subframes (front and rear). There is a reason Eagles maintain and or appreciate in value but not so a MCI or Prevost. I even own a late model MCI and dream of own an Eagle one day -whether they resume making them or not.
The smile on your face was priceless...im glad some of the younger generation are able to experience what moved and shaped this nation. Keep the videos coming!!!
There's a little cup on the intake tube and this was for loading the ether capsules. The top cap was spring loaded and when you closed it a sharp pointer pierced the capsule to release the ether. By using a capsule they could control the amount of ether the driver used as too much could harm the engine and the system worked beautifully. Now unfortunately those capsules are no longer available so just give a quick squirt of ether into the cup, give it a minute and it will fire right up.
if you take all the seats out do you still need a commercials because I want to buy a mc-9 too and this is a question my friend asked me and I don't know
It's a little more complicated than that, and it also depends on where you live. Here in Ontario the class is based on number of passengers and Gross Vehicle Weight. Technically I could make it drive-able with a normal licence but I would have to get it's RGVW changed, which is a bit of pain. I thought about doing that at first but the problem I ran into is that no one would insure it for me... as an RV it will be easier to insure. If you are interested in buses I would suggest just going for your licence, I loved taking the course and I'd hate to imagine someone owning a bus and not knowing how to properly inspect and maintain it.
sean francis I got mine straight for the company that was putting it out of service. That's probably you're best bet. But I'll warn you, they are worth about 2000-3000 in scrap metal so I wouldn't expect to find one much less than that
some trained CPAs probably know what you do, but i know of none so willing and with your results! any exceptions are far removed, thus, rightly enuff considered effectively imaginary, etc. notably, you had good camerawork for this shoot!
Nice dash 9 Ryan and good luck with your conversion as well. You have exactly what I will get down the road: a dash 9 with the 8v71. I when I get mine, I will TRY to upgrade to the 8v92 with Allison automatic and add a second entry door on the right side right near the drive tires.. I notice you started it from the outside instead of the inside.....was it for the video? When did you get it? Looks nice. I can see its not an ex -Greyhound as all their dash 9's by 1981 all had the 6v92, and Greyhound's didn't have the MCI letters in the front.
She's mechanically sound, that was my only real condition when shopping. I always start it from thew back when it's cold so I can listen to the engine and hear what it's doing... I got it off of a company in Vancouver, Canada: Pacific Coach. Just came out of service last spring. Cheers!
Cool.. I just picked up my newest project.. It's an "80 Prevost with a "99 conversion that needs some re-doing.. I'll have to try and get some photos of her to you somehow/day.. I can't imagine why anyone would "buy" a motorhome for long travel.. No fun at all.. LOL!!!
No, you can still find MC9 units in service today. It was such a success for MCI that parts are still quite plentiful for them. I was in NJ & NYC last year and you’ll still see them getting the job done. I drive a Prevost but I’ve got nothing but respect for the old MC9 buses. I’d love to have a MC9 fully restored (and updated) just to do smaller group tours. Maybe one with an 8V92TT and a manual transmission.👍
newer 4 stroke common rail turbocharged diesel buses are more fuel efficient. For a commercial passenger bus that's very important, that's why they switched. Technology goes forward, detroit diesel just become obsolete.
If you don't love a 2 stroke Diesel you need to check your pulse... Beautiful... Simply beautiful.
Such a classic engine, I honestly can't get over how amazing these Detroit Diesel 2 Cycle Engines are. They can be a little picky in the cold since they don't have glow plugs or an intake heater. They rely entirely on compression. Great video though.
Ahhhh the sweet sound of that GM starter and that beautiful 71 series cold start huntin. I love it!
Thank you for sharing this because now I know that the M-9 was around even in the early 1980's.
A fuckin beautiful coach and one of the best sounding diesel engines of all time.
The MC9 was the final nail in the coffin of Eagle Bus Company. I think it was in 82 that MCI introduced the MC9 with the full stainless stainless steel skeleton along with a lot of corrosion resistant panels. It became the workhorse for the biggest fleets in the Northeast. Amazing how many are still running in commercial motorcoach service even today.
Nope! The Silver Eagle sales or quality never once declined before or after the introduction of the MC9 (1978). There are still plenty of Eagles flying around mostly in the entertainment RV categories. Any true bus nut will tell you it was combination of dog eat dog -no I meant bird, meaning Greyhound had a great hand in the matter. Almost as many eagles were manufactured as mc9 before the 1990’s. At any rate the MC9 was from the MC8 Crusader/Americruiser platform. The MC9 was a Crusader#2/Americruiser2 .
@@marvinjgerald6007 I am a bus nut considering that I own a charter company. The Eagle was junk compared to MC9’s . Eagles were rust buckets with piss poor torsalastic suspensions
@@marvinjgerald6007 every other video of a silver eagle on youtube is either rebuilding the frame, or junking it because its a rust bucket...
@@Wingnut353 that’ll be no big deal given that the Eagle has long been out of production. Sir any same aged MCI bus would have just as much rust -give or take. In fact a MCI bus as recent as a year 2000 could have major rust issues -especially around the suspension subframe to body frame welds. So much so that MCI issued a recall edite to weld reinforce plates over the suspension subframes (front and rear). There is a reason Eagles maintain and or appreciate in value but not so a MCI or Prevost. I even own a late model MCI and dream of own an Eagle one day -whether they resume making them or not.
Good old Detroit sounds! I love the Crusader II coaches!
The smile on your face was priceless...im glad some of the younger generation are able to experience what moved and shaped this nation. Keep the videos coming!!!
Thanks! hopefully I'll have some more updates soon
This bus looking good
CHULADA DE SONIDO, CHULADA DE CAMION!!!!
Perfect rear start
I would recommend a bock heater, that kind of start is hard on the engine and starter... But it is fun to make the neighborhood smell like diesel.
Ya I'll probably throw one in eventually but it's too far down the priority list right now :P
excellent video
A little spray of starting fluid in the air intake in rear vents would have quickly helped start that bus.
"She needs a little Schnoooort". (Zip Ties and Bias Plies).
There's a little cup on the intake tube and this was for loading the ether capsules. The top cap was spring loaded and when you closed it a sharp pointer pierced the capsule to release the ether. By using a capsule they could control the amount of ether the driver used as too much could harm the engine and the system worked beautifully. Now unfortunately those capsules are no longer available so just give a quick squirt of ether into the cup, give it a minute and it will fire right up.
I didn't think it was going to start. Seemed the starter was turning weak fast. Glad you got her fired off tho.
if you take all the seats out do you still need a commercials because I want to buy a mc-9 too and this is a question my friend asked me and I don't know
It's a little more complicated than that, and it also depends on where you live. Here in Ontario the class is based on number of passengers and Gross Vehicle Weight. Technically I could make it drive-able with a normal licence but I would have to get it's RGVW changed, which is a bit of pain. I thought about doing that at first but the problem I ran into is that no one would insure it for me... as an RV it will be easier to insure. If you are interested in buses I would suggest just going for your licence, I loved taking the course and I'd hate to imagine someone owning a bus and not knowing how to properly inspect and maintain it.
Ryan Bottriell thanks for the info do you know a place that sells that type of bus at a low price in the hundreds or in the low thousands
sean francis I got mine straight for the company that was putting it out of service. That's probably you're best bet. But I'll warn you, they are worth about 2000-3000 in scrap metal so I wouldn't expect to find one much less than that
You need a CDL because of Air Brakes.
@@rmatt24 ??????????
some trained CPAs probably know what you do, but i know of none so willing and with your results! any exceptions are far removed, thus, rightly enuff considered effectively imaginary, etc. notably, you had good camerawork for this shoot!
Nice dash 9 Ryan and good luck with your conversion as well. You have exactly what I will get down the road: a dash 9 with the 8v71. I when I get mine, I will TRY to upgrade to the 8v92 with Allison automatic and add a second entry door on the right side right near the drive tires.. I notice you started it from the outside instead of the inside.....was it for the video? When did you get it? Looks nice. I can see its not an ex -Greyhound as all their dash 9's by 1981 all had the 6v92, and Greyhound's didn't have the MCI letters in the front.
She's mechanically sound, that was my only real condition when shopping. I always start it from thew back when it's cold so I can listen to the engine and hear what it's doing... I got it off of a company in Vancouver, Canada: Pacific Coach. Just came out of service last spring. Cheers!
@@RyanBottriell Congratulations Ryan !!!!!!!!
How's the conversion coming along? Good to see someone young converting a coach... Rock on dude!!!
Thanks! it's going well, check out my blog if you're interested in the details :) ryanbottriell.com/bus
Cool.. I just picked up my newest project.. It's an "80 Prevost with a "99 conversion that needs some re-doing.. I'll have to try and get some photos of her to you somehow/day.. I can't imagine why anyone would "buy" a motorhome for long travel.. No fun at all.. LOL!!!
Why not put a pre heater on that?
Meya Enyo just like I said to others who mentioned that I probably will put a block heater in some day but it's not on my priority list right now
Ex PCL MC-9?
Yep, retired in 2013 and I brought it home the same October
I figured why they retired that bus because it’s an old bus and they can’t get parts for them anymore like they used to
No, you can still find MC9 units in service today. It was such a success for MCI that parts are still quite plentiful for them. I was in NJ & NYC last year and you’ll still see them getting the job done. I drive a Prevost but I’ve got nothing but respect for the old MC9 buses. I’d love to have a MC9 fully restored (and updated) just to do smaller group tours. Maybe one with an 8V92TT and a manual transmission.👍
@@prevost8686 yes road ranger 15 speed keep her in that sweet spot..
newer 4 stroke common rail turbocharged diesel buses are more fuel efficient. For a commercial passenger bus that's very important, that's why they switched. Technology goes forward, detroit diesel just become obsolete.