'I Don’t Feel Safe': Ohio’s Derailed Train Left a Cloud of Distrust
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2023
- More than two weeks after a train derailed in East Palestine, Ohio, leaving behind a toxic cloud of hazardous chemicals, some residents say they still don’t feel safe going home - even though Norfolk Southern and the EPA say it’s OK to return.
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Y’all should be embarrassed.
You were probably forced to do this piece. Instead of leaving a link to Lahina or some other major issue in America… you post a link about a p*rnstar??!? Seriously.
Stop going after some ignorant egomaniac and focus on actual problems that affect Americans. Please.
A corporation that made $3 billion in profits last year and allows these disasters to happen regularly needs to be held accountable. Throw the CEO in jail.
Vice news doesn't even cover it weeks go by then Trump shows up in this report comes out the next day the transportation campaign was largely funded by Norfolk Southern
Railroad Gabe each resident $2 each.
Trump came in and gave each resident a bottle of water each.
Sad.
@@breth8159 I don’t know if you know this or not, but it takes time to do reporting. Vice are not the people neglecting to report on this issue… It’s the main stream media companies
@@ALCRAN2010 They bought out some people in Congress too. The now-head of the transportation cmte got $107k, it's insane.
@@ALCRAN2010 Well at least it wasn't paper towels. They drank that Trump water before when they voted overwhelming for him. And he sold them out by doing away with regulations for RR's.
As someone who experienced the Flint Water Crisis, another environmental crisis, you all in East Palestine have every right to be skeptical. We were noticing water smelling weird, looking discolored, folks getting sick. We were also told that the water was safe to drink by officials...until we found out it wasn't. You have lived there all your life. You know what's normal and not normal. Stick to your gut, and even when the cameras go away, keep fighting. Bless you all.
and what happend?
nothing.
im sure the water is still filled with cancer there
@@skizz741 so what should ppl do? Sit down and shut up?
@@armpitification your going to look away from this comment and do nothing / forget in a few mins anyway, im merley pointing it out
@@skizz741 I'm Moroccan, not American. I will never forget this incident took place in East Palestine of all places.
I wonder if the 🇮🇱 bankers chose this specific location or was it just another "coincidence"? Like the 2.3 trillion that went missing a day before 9/11.
@@jpmorganrunsthegame1064 exactly, like the missing 2.3 trillion no one has been accounted for?
im waiting for the real end, i beg a solar flare knocks out the grid.
The fact that the people responsible for this accident pulled out of the public meeting, tells you how little they care for these people.
True, you would think the private police of Norfolk Southern would make them feel safe enough to attend.
The company blew up the train. THAT showed you how little they care about these people.
The people responsible, is the last administration who was deregulating everything.
They shouldn’t be able to go back to their homes and live in peace. Has there been any direct protests at their homes, Norfolk Southern, the Republican legislature?
Did Biden ever show up?
It’s so sad to watch these human beings be poisoned and lied to about being poisoned smh. Prayers to them 😢
Unfortunately that is all of us worldwide
Flint Michigan and Jackson Mississippi as well
Sad part about it, most of us ain’t gonna do shyt but continue to go to work and sit on our asses while the government executes a Mass genocide in the name of the nwo
Prayers should work. Thank you for your service.
You must be an NPC
Don't sign a SINGLE THING they put in front of you. It is taking away your right to sue them. These dudes were literally hired by the company to get the residents to sign off.
I hope these residents in Ohio listen to you cause you're correct And also get their homes tested by other inspectors not their company inspectors A good paper trail is a good source
Never trust Norfolk Southern.
It's so messed up... they can't trust their own company- literally gaslighting them
If they tried that in Texas they’d be met with a shotgun pointed at them
Learn something from Texas, Ohio, and make it known
YES. THIS.
Anyone living in the area do this, trust me. Go to the doctor and get a physical, do this every single year. 10 or 20 years from now this will give you a paper trail if you become ill. The number one thing companies and the government will claim if you try to sue is "How do we know you didn't have this before?". If you do this you will have the proof that you need to help support your case in the future. If you have kids do this with them as well.
I’m doing this now I’m 20 and got my last two years documentation you reminded me to go again in 2023
Why even risk it? move if you can.
How many people in Ohio or us in general can afford a doctor.
@@brianthomason5022 thats such a sad fuckin thing to hear someone say. I use the VA for healthcare at no cost, if they can do it for vets, they can do it for everyone else too.
@@ChrisOkada
"If you can", is the key. Not everyone has the ability to spend an entire lifetime working hard and paying off their mortgage, only for some company looking to cut costs being reckless and stealing the value of your home. If it were me, I'd look into how I could start a class action lawsuit. How much wealth has been stolen from these people? It's a crime.
Omg those poor people.... hearing that mom describe the fear in her young sons eyes got me crying
I live in Youngstown, Ohio about 20 mins away from there. A few days after the wreck, my entire family got really sick. I talked to a few of my friends and they said them and their families were sick and everyone they know was sick. A lot of my family were sick for roughly 2 weeks. My Mom is still sick. Everyone I talked to said they were sick for roughly 2 weeks and some people still are. It's been a month and there is still something wrong. I don't trust anywhere in Eastern Ohio and Western Pennsylvania. If I had the money and resources to leave and bring my family with me, I absolutely would!! My nieces and nephews were severely sick, throwing up. One of my best friends has 3 daughters and she said they were violently sick and throwing up as well.. it's not safe here!! It's been a month and I still don't believe it's safe!
Ask yourself what is really stopping you from leaving besides money because money can be made anywhere
@angelroman3487 I'm only 33. I've moved to South Florida 3 different times for about 2 years at a time. But, this is where all my family is. My neices and nephews. The oldest is 8. I lost my Grandpa in 2006 and just lost my Grandma 3 years ago. I still have 2 left and their in their mid 80's. Every time I've moved I thought everything would be okay. And it was. Except, my family means the world to me and I just keep getting homesick and end up coming back home.
You are all getting sick from just drinking the tap water and you are miles away from the town? You are crazy living there . I'd move to a homeless shelter rather than live somewhere that I'm actively throwing up and my KIDS are sick ? You need to document everything that's happening and that happens in every way possible and constantly be at the hospital trying to test levels of the stuff that's causing this. I would not stay there, at least shower or drink ANYTHING tap water at the most
@@angelroman3487 I'd go live in a homeless shelter rather than see my kids throwing up and sick ! That's crazy people are that sick after that happening. I'd be scared to death
Uuh, I'm not sure. I don't think it's the water. I live literally right next to "Meander Reservoir." It's just a huge, giant man made lake pretty much. Nobody is allowed in there. It's all fenced off. However, people have including myself have snuck in there to fish, but it's very illegal. But, that's where we get our drinking water from. I'm positive that it was the air. A couple days after the wreck, the sky above Youngstown was completely and totally pitch black!! We've never seen anything like it before. It was like if you were in a completely dark room and closed your eyes as tight as you could pitch black! It was scary. But, people were sick for roughly about a month just like 2-3 days after the wreck..
"I'm a safety guy." Simple words, but that engineer said so much. What a good soul.
Indeed a kind soul. It's kinda heartbreaking to hear how safety has been bumped down a few spots in the line of importance. Makes me feel embarrassed to be a human at times like these.
Yeah you could really feel that . . . .
@@iamupinacloud you shouldn’t be embarrassed for our governments lack of caring for its people. Its not ur fault. They r just greedy n dont care. If anything this will make them more money because of medical bills
He must've agonized as he watched the safety become less of a priority because he knew the consequences. I'm sure he fought, too. Yet it fell on deaf years, and he needed a job, so he had to back down
It's probably why he stayed alive to complete his career and collect his pension.
That’s the same thing that happened with Flint, “don’t worry the water is perfectly safe to drink,” kept telling them that for years before Flint hit the news. Same thing with radiation therapy, “it’s safe.” Fact that they bailed from the meeting with the townspeople tells you all you needed to know.
Yup they didn't even want to be around the sh*t or answer the tough questions
Same with Centralia, PN-that town that had a coal mine that started burning and is still burning to this day and is letting toxins out to this day.
Yeah, as a Flint resident, this is all I was thinking. We had politicians taking photo ops drinking the water, and had governmental officials saying it was safe..And then we found out it really wasn't. Suddenly all the national guard trucks are showing up and knocking on our doors, giving us emergency water. It's scary realizing that your home--your safe space--is no longer safe. Not knowing if just doing normal things is poisoning you. I really feel for these folks. The way an event like this cast an atmosphere of fear and sadness over a town is traumatizing. We still haven't gotten justice, and probably never will. I hope they'll get some answers.
its because the elite DC Roaches never cared about Americans
Perfectly said
Why are so many large media outlets not covering this? Why are smaller local new reporters being arrested for reporting on this?? whats going on?? Glad Vice was able to talk about this.
New world older. If the world isn’t fully aware anything goes. They can continue to lie. They want the world depopulated. Thats the Masonic agenda for you.
Because so many things are controlled by the government and or owned by companies that they won't say anything about it because it's owned by their people. I don't know exactly how to explain it but just do a little research on this whole thing and you will find out how much money is being spent to NOT cover things
Because talking about it might give the impression that the people in power shouldn't be in power. Same with climate change. Same with state violence. Same with US war crimes. Same with basically everything the NSA does. Same with the companies currently benefiting from child slavery. Same with increasing copyright-based censorship. Same with unionbusting. Same with the disturbing rise of straight-up fascist movements. Same with the justified and long-overdue return of organized labor.
If they talk about these things, people might start to wonder what should be done about them.
Because the media is owned by the same banks that owns the other corporations. Shareholders come first, everything else including life, truth and happiness come second.
I live in Kent Ohio about 40-55 mins away. And we have air quality issues as well as a water contamination advisory. This is a way bigger issue than they are making this seem
Listening to that retired engineer speak really hit home. As a former locomotive engineer myself, I remember always putting safety first above everything. It was expected of us. I remember the mantra, "When in doubt, take the safetst route." The railroad is very unforgiving; employees die every year. As much as the company drilled safety practices into our heads, it is hard for me to fathom how much that industry has changed in such a short period of time. Some companies are willing to put employee and public safety behind profits and efficiency. I feel bad for anyone who lives within a half mile of a main track.
the dark god of greed has returned to earth!
When you have a government who couldn't care less about their society, that same level of contempt begins to trickle down to big businesses who cut corners safe in the knowledge that if the government won't hold them accountable why should they care either.
I've heard people with both CSX and NS complain that CSX was quicker to terminate employees than was NS. I wonder now if that is because CSX has higher standards than NS
biden and company shouldnt gotten involed with the strike let the works & unions fight the railroads a deal would have soon came about when "labour didnt actually contribute to profit" and profits would fall along come neogation team
I'm a crusty old conductor who lives a half mile from Uncle Pete's mainline, still running 18k+ long trains daily. PSR ruins everything except share holder profits. Like the old hoghead said, safety below all is they're new moto. Make me sad.
I’m the girl who mouthed horseshit in this video. I’ve got to say that after working all day and going to that meeting I was absolutely livid. Quite frankly I still am. I live .2 miles from the disaster location. This situation has been handled so poorly, but I am thankful for the reporters who are bold enough to speak out and interview the people who actually live here rather than spewing out scripted lines from Norfolk Southern. Thank you vice. I would be happy to share more about my experiences here. I will not be silenced by this company or anyone who has been placed in a position of financial gain from Norfolk Southern’s checkbook.
Don't sign anything, stay angry. Angry gets things done.
Brockovich is creeping around there. If she sees a big paycheck for herself she'll be back.
What where the concentration of the chemicals that were screened at the residence? What where the results of the testing?
Atta-girl! Stand tall and I send my sincerest wishes to your entire community's health and well being.
@@jjorden1976 The issue is that testing has been conducted by a company that Norfolk Southern owns. They are paid to make the company they represent look good even if that means they have to tamper with samples, data or any other form of evidence that would negatively impact NS. They have done this a multitude of times in various disasters. The EPA and FEMA only came in after a former president announced that he would be visiting and offering aid to locals. In other words I don’t care what the results say. I have chemical bronchitis, crippling migraines, and was nearly fired for missing work for an oxygen treatment. People are sick, animals are dying, our air, water and soil poisoned. Regardless of the city, regardless of the state, regardless of political views, this should not be allowed to continue anywhere, ever. Sanctions are needed for prevention, assistance, and accountability.
"these are bad choices" like that sums up EVERYTHING going on right now.
I couldn't even imagine the pain and fear that young lady is going through right. My thoughts and prayers to her and her son and all affected by this tragedy. Of course Norfolk Southern will try to minimise loss and try to take the least expensive way out of this but the way Gov. DeWine and the Ohio and federal EPA has handled this is nothing short of disgusting down-playing the situation and treating these people like fools.
DeWine should be voted out at the next election. But, Ohio 😀
I can't believe that a crew of "experts" would ever walk into a contaminated area without at least respiratory protection on, and then to have the homeowner in the house before the result is known is negligent at best (where soil and water samples taken at the home supply?)
Maybe they know the risks beforehand, and don't consider them high enough to use a respirator
The NJP pressed them to do something. Hail Victory
Because they've already had their Vaccine shots haaaahahaa
Experts according to who?
@@artseosamhogriobhta Nazi?
The company and the government need to be held accountable. It’s disgusting.
I can say alot of bad things about this government, but the fact of the matter is that the democrats wanted to regulate this, but GOP opposed. This is what happens when deregulation goes haywire and people keeps blindly supporting it.
@Blurgle Dems have been in power for years now. And with a swipe of pen and an executive order Biden does whatever he wants as we all know. So that's a very poor excuse. Our government is awful and shady amd they do not care about the American people. Simple as that
Trump administration deregulated the trains. So blame that guy.
@@blurgle9185 oh really. lets all get on our hands and knees and praise the democrats some more.. pathetic
@@williesreserve7475 Just because it's true Democrats called for regulation does not imply we are praising Democrats. Stop politicising this.
This is fascinating! People are letting a sub contractor for norfolk southern check there house's to see if there safe. Of course there gonna say it's safe.
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These so called ‘high ranked’ officials making a good living, but when something goes wrong, none of these officials takes accountability and responsibility, not even ‘we are sorry that this happened’. Prayers goes out to the people affected. This is truly a sad world we live in.
Why when they already make 5 ot 10 times the average American household do they constantly need to use taxpayer time and money to vote on raises?
No mention of the railroad company. Come on man Be real.
Come on now. Your pushing Ukraine to endure this kinda stuff for over a year, Donbas over 9 years. You can endure some explosions without going crazy. You bombed Iraq, Serbia, Afghanistan, Vietnam. They also didnt want free fireworks, but nobody asks weak countries. Apropos weak countries, Nlrth Korea, drop your nuclear weapons! We want to deliver demoBOOMcracy!
It’s just like our politicians.
Back then the rich who did wrong would just get lynched
My father in law worked for the railroad his whole life. He refused to ride the rails because of how bad they are. He died at 68 of lymphoma and 4 other cancers. Exposure over 40 years to toxic railcars.
They have $152 billion available to buy weapons for Ukråine in an instant, but not a single cent for the ones who actually pay the taxes - the American citizens, when they face a crisis like this of the politicians own making.
If they had even done the bare minimum of keeping updated safety standards this wouldn't have happened.
@@MuantanamoMobile 100% Its pretty sad
@@MuantanamoMobile The infrastructure bill starts with 4.3 billions for rails and there are several more billion coming. Biden rode trains to work for decades . He has long wanted to fix them. He will now deal with regulations that were undone.
@@MuantanamoMobile 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 sometimes i think americans are demons, but other times i feel theyre just airheads, your government has all the money in the world yet some of you still die from ridiculous accidents like these that could have been prevented had they invested 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of their money
@@MuantanamoMobile Because the war machine is big on lobbying. Don't get me wrong, the US should send help to Ukraine, but this si rididculous.
My heart breaks for Genus, her son, and everyone else who’s stuck there with no way out and their homes unsafe.😔💜
Respect to the mother for leaving with her kid and 🐈....
Absolutely INSANE to hear from a dude in his 60s that we need to GO BACK to safety standards BACK IN THE DAYS, and he's ABSOLUTELY RIGHT....Like what the hell is this world coming to...
We need to go back to the antitrust policies of the Teddy Roosevelt era.
When you worship at the alter of Capitalism this is what you get. Republicans have successfully demonized regulations to the point that those that benefit most from them want them removed.
Phuk the Shitstem
Profits, bribes,trump.
Profit is king now
Anyone who owns a home in that town should sue, literally force the railroad to buy all of those homes for at least 2x the value.
That's never going to happen 😂
They'll just file bankruptcy
it's physically impossible to sue a railroad
@@AlainnCorcaigh no.. but they can sue the railroad company Norfolk Southern Corp. You could file a complaint against any company or human. It'll never payoff but to prove a point homeowners should try
@@andrewboyce7268 Sue them for what though ? The experts have said it's safe ,there is no case.
If Norfolk can't show up to the Town Hall, their trains shouldn't be chugging down the same train tracks until there are answers and cleanup done transparently.
You can tell just by looking at the fire and the amount of soot and black smoke coming out that it's a hazard. I would move just to be safe because it seems like the soil and water could be contaminated and depending on the type of chemicals being released they could linger around for decades silently causing damage to people's health.
As a local of East Palestine, I have a father whom is a retired engineer for this railroad. So much misinformation is in the media and people believe anything they say, I will say Vice got it right. I would like to thank you for accurate reporting. Good job
Check out breaking points and Kyle kulinski. They’re covering the issue really well
Would you sign that sheet at 3:11? I wouldn't because if you sue them later they can bring that to the courtroom and say "You signed this form saying that the air in your home was good." Stay healthy down there. I wish for a good outcome for east Palestine.
@@Joseph-xv4wx I’ll check it out, thank you
@@dannydaw59 I sure did not. In fact I made sure none of my family did. They brought it to my “disabled” mother in law to sign. She called me out of concern of how urgent they acted that she needed to sign it. She said they were so nice, but pushy that she do so. I am glad she did. You know they presented this document to them (elderly and disabled) before anyone.
And I bet you will still vote for Democrats and Pete Butt.
Every big company I’ve ever worked for always says “safety first,” but when push comes to shove that’s just words and productivity and the bottom line is truly more important.
Or when they say they put their employees first, then they buy back stock and layoff a bunch of employees. Only profit matters, everything else is a lie.
Very true.
@@EvilVacuumso true.
It's only safety first because many of those rules are OSHA enforced. There wouldn't be safety rules if it wasn't illegal.
How are we supposed to be "productive members of society," then?
I can’t believe it’s already been a month since this has happened. WOW
Thank you Vice for giving this some coverage!! I live a little too close for comfort to that area and I really haven't heard much at all. So again, thank you!
This story feels so much deeper than what is currently on the surface. Thank you for this reporting.
Oh trust me, it's wayyyyy deeper than superficial.
It’s all done on purpose. Biden and libs are trying to lower the population.
This is beyond tragic and avoidable, but it will happen again because congress won't force any change. The owners of the train co own all MSM as well, it's a dark situation.
@@kentstate1244 You're right.... The Wall Street Banksters need to keep their Shareholders happy....
It goes deeper in that this is a societal problem. These greedy corporations are allowed to put profit over the lives of people.
Thank you Vice for raising awareness to this story..
about time..
Let us not act like they had 2 weeks to come out with the story. We have UA-cam channels run by individuals that came out with the entire story a week ago. Vice just now put out their piece while leaving out a lot of details.
Fell in love with Vice when it first came out and still is. Been trying to watch old Vice vids when they first started.
@@jordan9604 really? What other videos? What details were left out?
Why can't you be specific 🤔 is it because you're doing propaganda 🐂💩
@@vararii3068 So instead of being thorough you want VICE to be more like Northern Suffolk?
You know your government is a joke when a company dictates what is wrong and what is right. This is currently happening in the US but it is prevalent in other countries as well.
Another great update vice
There's only one fair course. The railroad needs to purchase every property in E.P. for the market price BEFORE this disaster, so the residents can find new homes. Then the RR can deal with what they've done.
Lol you know that ain't happening, your government isn't doing anything about it and trying to cover it up... good luck
100%
Sure i agree 100. Sad hugs tho…that is never going to happen.
That would be a good start, but People are losing so much more than just property.
@@Zedament PAY WITH MONEY OR PAY WITH COMMUNISM??
Many of us live near railroad tracks - this is unconscionable.
yeah i feel the same way. did you see how many accidents / derailments happen in the US , its nuts!
Check out the regulations trump got rid of surrounding the transport of LNG.... KABLOOEY!
bad life choice there
Especially scary considering the poor condition that so many train bridges are in…
In southern California railroads criss cross through all the cities. I live down the street from one. I can't imagine what would happen if there was a derailment
No red cross?? We're definitely getting attacked from within
Everyone needs to leave that area immediately, this will not get better for you by staying anywhere near this catastrophe. Absolutely destroyed the environment and everyone that is living in it. We will only see the true effects in the coming years and it is so scary to think about. Praying for all of those people living in that state because yes that entire state and even surrounding states will be feeling this. Test your water supply!!!! Dont trust someone telling you its safe, get your own test done!
I live in northwest Ohio. About time this starts to get coverage. It's so much worse than what they're telling people. I'm waiting to see how this effects the crops this year. We grow so much of the crops that are sent all over the country. This isn't going to just be an Ohio problem
Yeah I said f EP, and moved to salem
Y-town is my hometown
My family there now, very concerned about what’s going down in EP
Your right, they released millions of pounds of hydrochloride gas into air that will turn to acid on contact with water molecules. It will rain down on everything in its path and travel in any water source into soil. Crops will be contaminated with acid soil destroying them. Why is there no chemical engineer explaining this is what happens when Vinyl Chloride is burned?
Definitely not just an Ohio problem, the Ohio River is less than 20 miles away, a major river connected to the Mississippi and Tennessee Rivers and with a drainage basin in 14 states. Drinking source for 5 million people. This is catastrophic.
Even though it happened on Ohio soil, its not just Ohio that will be affected. PA is less than a mile away, and wind blows northeast, so the cloud traveled further than just Ohio/PA
Fun fact, the NorFolk Southern is owned by an investment company called Blackrock who once tried to buy the property around the railroad tracks from the town, who turned down the offer. Imagine what an amazing coincidence that a major chemical spill happened in that exact spot that forced the residents to flee. I'm not saying it's intentional, but it sure was convient for Blackrock.
I will be the the one to say it, it was 100% intentional. It will all come out eventually. Our shadow Gov't moves with a cold and calculated gait.
Oh wow thanks for sharing. I didnt know that. You do have a point.
Do you think Blackrock's offer still stands?
Wow I didn't know black rock owned them... Very interesting... This does all kinds of signs it was planned imo
They wanted a safety zone. I guess they were correct, yeah? Maybe this put some sense into people? That land has no value to the company. The homeowners are just stubborn. They thought nothing would ever happen untill it did.
The independent contractor hired by the offending company of course smells or detects nothing wrong in the house.
These “independent” contractors should be paired with outside contractors testing simultaneously. How can I expect the murderer to property investigate THEIR CRIME SCENE!!!
Imagine trusting a town hall meeting to answer questions seriously. LMAO.
We must hold them accountable or nothing will change.
S t f u
Hold yourself accountable
Hold Brandon accountable 2 trillion to fix these things and nothing done
@@devilghostface8798 #redstate
@@devilghostface8798 #small government
Lmao
That mother did the right thing for her child get the hell out of town 👍
Thanks again for another good one vice
reason they tests are coming up as safe is because the blast created so many chemical reactions that its creating new chemicals and gasses, and they cant test for something thats never been detected before. telling these people that their house is safe is ridiculously dangerous.
these people didn't even find out the full list of what chemicals were in this train before blowing it all up, and then going 'whoopsies! turns out the chemicals we didnt know where in there become toxic when set on fire! sowwy 🥺'
This whole country should be rallied behind this area. The government and the company needs to be held accountable. They have unheard of amounts of money that came from our pockets and they can clean this, they need to.
They can clean it, but where and how do they dispose of the contaminated materials?
@@moonbear5929 It's going to landfills in Indiana
Used to be an American faimily business that our government watched and most likely was the cause " never let a good cause go to waste" bankruptcy that they lent 2 billion to buy the railway but it's the government and they hadn't done or shown maintenance since they purchased it!
They want to either set a racewar or this kind of damage where they're saying how far there going to take to get the agenda across one world order.
J6 was red flag they caused!
So was tower attacks bush suadi prince
Every white supremacists mental health mass soft target shooter is their UMK used to take our arms away history repeats over and over
They took all that fire chemicals water and trucked it by highway to Texas? Why? Why take it out of a nuqt place in to virgin ?
@@edreynolds8721 yup 3 n Louisiana Florida Pennsylvania I think Michigan too to name few
Unfortunately this is rarely being discussed by other news outlets. This week I may have seen a cumulative of 15 minutes spent on this man-made disaster. Thank you so much for continually shedding a light on this, Vice!
@aarqa Pretty sure they’re talking about videos, hence them saying “seen” and not “read” Not sure what you can’t grasp.
This is a Capitalist disaster. Not a human one
they distracted everyone with ufos 🤷🏿♂️
Msm does whatever they are told to say and do they are not there to help us
@@Praisethesunson LMAO there's always that one socialist that can't help themselves.
I had an argument with this person who said I’m a crazy conspiracy theorist only because I said the government can’t be trusted anymore. As someone who grew up in a corrupt country I know very well what this is and how they can manipulate citizens to believe anything they tell them. I moved to this country about 15 years ago, and in all honesty it seems to be getting worst and worst. Even Mexico my home land who I still visit often is getting better and better and projected to becoming a world economy in the incoming years. Americans are moving to mexico like never before. In fact, the president of Mexico responded to accusations by American officials by saying “in Mexico we have real democracy” and this is true at least for the past 5 years. Here in the U.S we are losing that. Us as citizens need to start acting against our corrupt governments. We cannot afford to stay quiet anymore, we cannot afford to let the rich people keep abusing the rest of us.
As a person who has Parents from Pakistan, my country of origin, is your average 3rd world country however somehow, SOMEHOW we made more progress than USA and I do admit my country of origin isn't doing that well and has a pretty corrupt government but we somehow also have better democracy than the USA despite being a Country with a mixed regime and a country that has Sharia Law Implemented into our government (Btw I was born in the USA).
Sending prayers 🙏 ❤️
Other than getting you noticed it does nothing.
Prayer is a quiet thing between one and their god.
That is what scripture tells us.
The retired engineer is a good human, I teared up hearing the passion in his voice. I hope there's enough like him to make an actual change.
Lol what change?
people are realizing that the government is not with us, do the opposite of what they say
@@jamesoligarchs3212 u ok buddy?
Amen to that!
@@jamesoligarchs3212 Are you on meth?
Its like being robbed and then the police saying that the people who robbed you will assess what was taken
Praying 🙏 everything and everyone is safe
I feel bad for the people who live in this place. It's been about year since this accident and I just found out about this. Knowing that such derailment used to happen but never for the consequences to reach to this extent must make the residents more than upset. Not only is their air and water is getting poisoned but they're getting gaslighted as well. I can't imagine how frustrating that would be. Is there any updates on the residents' health?
To see the people conducting the tests NOT wear any protection? WTF!?!
I'm amazed by all of this...
Thanks, Vice. Keep pushing.
Maybe because they're the experts and they know it's safe?
Not everything is a govt conspiracy.
Knowing what different chemicals smell like isn't something you're taught.
lol foreal, like hmm lets test for chemicals that cause cancer better not wear masks!
@@johnmarston2474 You say they're experts but the guy couldn't answer a simple question LOL
People are hungry for free money
@@johnmarston2474 He literally said outside the house "I'm not sure what that could be."
When you're dealing with unknown chemicals that you literally inhale into your respiratory system.... You ought to wear protection, this is pretty basic stuf.
They should have to pay residents to stay in hotels until they deem its safe to go back into there own homes and the county should of found,talked,and paid someone themselves to get soil tested not the company because it's easy for them to pay a little extra to get the answers they want the residents to hear..
Too broke spending $500 bucks per night for non citizens in places like Rowe Hotel in NYC plus meals... ( Which they are trashing cuz it's not rice, legumes, plantains, and other traditional foods)
@@TruBlu65 they’re definitely not too broke lol. Find another scape goat
@@TruBlu65 wtf does that have to do with anything?? you sound racist af right now
@@TruBlu65 Is it over indoctrination or is it a cognitive problem that leads you to try to link a completely unrelated identity politics talking point to a train disaster? Do you think the railway is paying for non-citizens in hotels, and that's why they can't afford a cleanup? Do you think that this disaster is happening in NYC, and that's why you think they're related?
I'm really confused by your line of thought here.
Yeah Ev definitely confused n confusing yet people suffering in lovely Ohio comprehend
MY concern is the towns that live in the path of the fallout. I live in PA in a town that was in the direct path of the smoke carried by the Jet stream. My son played outside and came in sick, throwing up, headache.... All this was the day after the fire was set and continued until today. Then, we have all these dead birds too.
@@user-kd6gh1so9 nope. The neighbor kids did too. Either a bug or something from fallout, the concern is real. The sick kids are real. The timing is real. It's not like you'll believe it anyway and I don't expect what I said to change your mind. I'd have to be naive to think that every person would believe a random comment left by SOME GUY on the internet. But don't worry, the world now knows that YOU don't believe it. You're on the record.
Wow! SCARY!
I live in Columbus...I have a feeling everyone in this entire region is going to see the harm this is doing in the next 10-15 years spikes in cancer for one
Highland County I Agree
And certainly infant abnormalities. Just like in Indian and other very polluted areas in the world.
Living across the country I was pretty shocked at how long it took for the media to get this story out. It was around a week or so after the incident. Big money kept this one under wraps.
Liar
No, it didn't. But, you do have to be news junkies to get more immediate news.
1 year old troll who hates the "media" 🙄
Tell us about all the rail accident stories between 2017-20? Whare was the media coverage of those?
Sean is right, you're just a basic common liar.
@@sean9545 bot
Big money owns these trains and the corporate media. So obviously corporate media tried to protect it's train holdings from potential profits loss.
we are listening...we are hearing you. ❤❤❤❤❤
poor Scott, man, he seems like such a nice guy
Nobody is safe when the world is ruled by monsters.
rule your own world and safety is plentiful
@@cvltzilla tf does that even mean?
@@alexxtrippi333 it's pretty self explanatory.
I agree
Who are the monsters
I think the people of Ohio one by one should take that company to court. And not a group settlement. Don't let them just pay out with one big lump sum payment that everybody has to divide. Each one should take theim one by one. I don't even live there and it pisses me off. If just a citizen of United States did this, they would be arrested and fined out the ass. But this company has put a bunch of money in the back pockets of politicians it seems.. these residents need to find a really good lawyer that knows how to deal with big companies like this that make huge mistakes.
We can never make a stand in court. make a stand on the rail. everyon take a foot of random rail and lets set our rules on how and what they move and do.
Its wayyy harder than you make it sound. This is a million dollar company, it’d probably be years til anyone even gets a penny if we all tried to sue
you realize this toxin is now in the majority of the water supply of the midwest now???? its gonna hit over half the countrys water.
Need to go way back. Start dragging them from their homes. The 1 and only way there will ever be real change.
they got what they voted for
Much love Goes out to all
Sad thing is,we won't know impact of this for decades....thoughts and prayers from portland
This is the saddest thing I’ve ever seen in Ohio. I live in Springfield Ohio & haven’t seen any birds. I usually feed them every day of the year. We’re 233 miles from ground zero
It’s so sad.. for the animals, people, bugs..😢 I hope for justice here.
That's weird. I live in Hilliard and we still have our pesky ducks, geese and birds in my area.
I just said this exact thing I haven’t seen any birds or squirrel in 5/6 days
I'm 35 miles out and we have birds and wildlife is thriving.
@@AccessKelly it could be how the winds has shifted. Who knows.
Norfolk Southern represents what is the feeling of the American corp towards the people. If their economical practices affect the health of the average american it's like if there's no sense of empathy for nobody, the sense of dehumanization is truly disgusting.
At least you have an environmental ist government now. Biden was right there offering help. Trust the government, they have rainbow flags.
One way they've been able to do this is by putting these companies in to our 401k portfolios. Now we rely on them doing well for our own future. I recently moved my portfolio away from Twitter and saw it immediately grow. In a small way, we have a TINY bit more control over this than we think.
Questions to ask Rail Authorities 1. When was the last time Maintenance was carried out on the rail line, 2. What is the procedure for carriage of dangerous &/or hazardous goods thru this sector. 3. Who is responsible.
I don't blame them for not trusting what Norfolk says. I used to work there and they don't care about anything but money. I had a coworker whose daughter was sick and couldn't go to school and they told her she needed to drop her off at a church so that she could come to work 😳. And we worked in Accounting!! I have many stories
Wow 😳
Safety should ALWAYS come first when it comes to trains. These money grabbing execs and CEO’s should be arrested and prosecuted for their negligence.
Trump is on the top of mountain in blame for this one, don't blame anyone else except along with Joe Biden another sorry case like Trump
That’s not how America works. If anyone gets in trouble for this, it’ll be the conductor or railway employees - never the executives.
@@milan.2412If we punish the wealthy for destroying swaths of the U.S for the sake of profits, how would they be incentivized to destroy swaths of the U.S for profit?
Checkmate liberals.
@@milan.2412 What do know?they do what they want you young little boy,,, and if they don't get the funding for a mayor company like this railway delivery system here, listen good;mechanics,who are experts in the field of modern brake systems of high-speed rail trains had already stressed the upgrade and Donald Trump refused to endorse it.Biden neglected a State of emergency like everything else,after this unruly complication neither Biden or Trump can ever again be trust worthy servants of the people we can see what's happening here do your own research.
@@milan.2412 Thankfully, because of things like UA-cam, I think it’s much harder for them to get away with it these times
Thank you for speaking to the residents of this town and covering this outrageous tragedy. Not just sugar coating it like many news outlets have
This attack was carried out by the German special forces as retribution for the TERRORIST attack that the USA carried out by bombing the Nordstream pipelines. May God bless Germany (including Austria). Down with the TERRORIST STATES OF AMERICA. Amen.
Fr, thank god for Vice.
Ohhhh snap! Scott!!! I worked with him. He was a great engineer, enjoyed my trips with him. Taught me a lot. 😊
@I Am The Walrus he retired.
After the company involved has been proven not to care about safety, you have every right not to believe them when they say it's "safe". I feel so sorry for this town that they polluted and now just want to sweep under the rug. Utterly disgraceful and disgusting
About a year ago during the spring. My town had massive flooding, and the railroad company still had a train come through the flooded rails. The train derailed and the conductor almost drowned trying to escape
What a shock! Corporate negligence harms innocent people and the company runs away. I'd love to see what readings they're getting on those tests vs occupational exposure limits. FEMA, the EPA, and the Ohio state government needs to be more involved, because Norfolk Southern is primarily concerned with avoiding lawsuits and spending as little money as possible to get the residents to shut up.
The citizens of that town would probably be better off reaching out directly to experts in the field to come and do their own readings on the chemicals that leaked into the area.
Corporate? Hahahahahahahha! Funny that you don’t mention MAGA clowns who Removed the regulations that could have stopped this.
So, Norfolk is "testing the air" in people's homes themselves? And the inspector was trying to get her to sign something after supposedly determining the house was safe? I wouldn't sign anything!
0:07 can you imagine your mayor telling you that he ‘thinks’ your water is safe, not that it is safe, but that he thinks it safe. How reassuring.
I hope the mother gets equity for the home
horrendous
They basically nuked this town.... Absolutely disgusting
I feel sorry for those affected by this incident and hope they get support going forward if they need it.
How can they be supported? They need to fully relocate to another city/state. Somehow this will be blamed on the city, this is what the railroad does.
Imagine how you’d feel seeing your president going to other countries to secure their borders and ensure they feel safe while ignoring US citizens and not even showing up to show support for them! Kamala Pete and Biden’s are despicable and should be ashamed they are doing more for non citizens than for their own countrymen!
The NJP pressed them to do something. Hail Victory
You don’t care. All of these people voted for trump and are white. You don’t care
Like Flint MI?
Large scale deregulation leads to large scale failure over time.
2 days ago another Norfolk Southern derailment in Springfield, Ohio. Supposedly with no dangerous chemicals. Wtf is going on.
Thank u
Same thing with the derailment in a small town named Graniteville, South Carolina. That basically made a carrier container explode and release extremely concentrated chlorine into a small town killing a bunch of people who basically were bombed with mustard gas from a train carrier container that was pressurized, erupting. At the time, I was a college student at Benedict college in Columbia SC (I’m from Jersey, literally right outside of Manhattan- I moved back here after graduating college) I remember with my fellow chemistry majors going out to the more rural areas where lower income white & black people lived, who complained of so many horrific things for years after the incident; allowing us to test their properties, forage, water wells, clothing, even livestock and pets. We were threatened by the state with defunding our small college as well as federal grants drying up if we made our research public. Professors lost their tenure over it, and deans and department chairs were demoted or outright fired. We had to sit on our research for almost 2 decades! Apparently the EPA of President Bush and Obama didn’t know it existed, the Trump admin was a joke in regards to anything EPA. Bidens EPA has at least attempted to reach out to our former professors and department chairs (this of whom that are still alive anyways) one lost all of our research in a bad flood in Columbia SC in 2015-2016 and the other has relocated to Arizona to teach and has lost all of the work on a hard drive that was left in a storage unit in Arizona that reached internal temps of over 200°F and below freezing temps in the winter over a couple years which destroyed the hard drives from the heat/cold/heat/cold dynamic. Me and my classmates all still possessed our individual research and were missing about 10% of it all from a classmate who unfortunately passed away tragically from a heart attack at the age of 32. We are compiling our work now and as of this week were fortunate enough to find the records keeper of the now defunct lab who did our testing who had everything we needed. Within the next month or two we are all planning on going back out there to retest to compare todays work with our work from 2005. Also, the state of SC completely tried to sweep it under the rug. When it was a republican president in a majority republican ran state legislature with a republican governor and republican Supreme Court; partisan bullshit superseded our wellbeing as citizens in this country. Not to even make it a partisan or political thing; but the stark difference in the outcry and blaming of the transportation secretary of all people for a accident is mind boggling!!! What republican partisan hacks and the peanut gallery refuse to acknowledge is this outcry and blaming is politics 101 ! They don’t give a DAMN about these people or anything else! It’s just politics to them! PERIOD! Wether they’re democrats or republicans it’s politics period. The sad thing is these politicians KNOW exactly what the process is (a lengthy one at that) to even come to a conclusion of what happened and what didn’t happen. It’s a years long process and they KNOW this! Those rail companies are heavily subsidized by government and even if they’re sued it’s only so much responsibility they will be responsible for.
Tmtr
Thanks for sharing
Lobbyists run everything. They're behind the scenes and then politicians are being bought..sad sad state of affairs with these train derailments and oil spills and things of the like. Like the Navajo Nation have never been compensated for the incident in 70s and high cases of cancer and zero responsibility for the mining company after their "cleanup"..
@@michaelmchenry8280 cause they were the ones in charge of train maintenance...
This needs to be posted somewhere with more eyes. If the research is at all intriguing, this should be elsewhere. Not a YT comment section
"Quit worrying about the damn money" All that needs said
Sad tragic event! 😥
The way that the residents of East Palestine are being treated is beyond sickening.
My older relatives grew up in Akron in the shadow of Goodyear. The way they say it the sides of the houses were constantly covered in soot but the company said it was safe. When they got up in age they all developed cancer and dementia and passed young for their age group. Don't let a corporation tell you because it "appears" safe now that there are no long term health risks.
Yup. Remember hinkley California, streets of empty houses abandoned bc the water supply is toxic and the electric company dumped toxic waste and didn’t do anything when everyone’s water was causing health problems. The town is gone bc of it. I fear this might be the same fate for EP
Did Biden ever show up?
I know people who get a migraine if someone where's too much perfume. I can't even imagine how horrible this is for them.
I get migraines from not having enough food, water, sleep, or physical movement.
It also gets far worse the brighter, louder, and more pungent odors are….
Wears
Its about to be get real crazy out there. This may be the beginning of the next pandemic
As horrible as it is for anyone else, the 2 are completely unrelated
The ppl in that town got done dirty. The owners of that railroad need to be prosecuted.
it's a tragedy, so sad
This is why we don’t deregulate things like this. Because then this crap happens, and people get sick and die.
It’s disgusting that these poor people have no recourse and they’re forced by money of all things to move back.
Biden and Buttigieg handed out rainbow flags. Everything is fine, now that the experts are on the case.
How much you want to bet Norfolk and southern walk. I bet they donated to his campaign..
That is a risk corporations are willing to take. When the fines are so little and there's no laws to force them to be safer with two man crews, this will keep happening.
It's always profits before people in the US.
@@Devilishlybenevolent Sad but true. The corporations are literally getting away with murder these days. No laws, no regulations is the status quo now. This is simply unacceptable!!! Feel terrible for the people affected.
That's one thing. But the neglect and response time to clean it up or dispose of it appropriately was careless.
@@TomTom-xp2jb Saddest part is that these people are the ones who scream about big gubment and how we'd all be better off with no government regulations. Suddenly this happens and they're complaining the government isn't doing enough.
It's sad how people can't see beyond the parties and how both sides are just working for corporate interests. Always has been and most likely always will continue to do so. The dems and reps will do their song and dance blaming each other while both taking corporations donations.
My father had applied several months ago and got a job as an electrical engineer for the railroad in Vancouver/Portland area and he let the hiring lady know thatd he would need a month to settle things with his current company, they agreed, then a couple weeks before his start date a manager calls him yelling at him asking where he was, turns out there is a horrible lack of communication in the industry
He ended up telling the man that had yelled at him that if this is a sign of how they run their business, that he wants no part of it and hung up.
Unfortunately this is happening in the whole American workforce. It’s infuriating.
Funny to think that they had an open schedule with a “missing”engineer because they’re just as stupid as every other company I’ve worked for.
It's systemic.
Blame corporate policy, blame changing demographics, aging infrastructure, and oh yeah; crappy people.
@@jcm7814 not me and Joe Biden disagrees
@@vladimirofsvalbard9477 not companies like Apple, Levi's, NIKE!!!, THEY ARE APPROVED BY WOKE
That retired engineer got me. He’s right. Can tell how upset he is that they’re endangering people due to their negligence (to put it nicely)
Thank you Vice. Stay on this, please. Find those who ought be held accountable.