Number One Mistake Artists Make When Painting in Oil

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  • Опубліковано 25 гру 2024

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  • @EricTViking
    @EricTViking 7 років тому +290

    Skip to 6:00 to get past the pre-amble...

  • @anonymousanonymous5327
    @anonymousanonymous5327 3 роки тому +12

    This man is literally a gift from the gods to those who want to learn, thankyou

  • @stuartarmstrong3846
    @stuartarmstrong3846 3 роки тому +13

    This is really refreshing, honest content and I appreciate that you have the foresight to resist the urge to accuse your students of doing something ''wrong'' but rather asking them a question and allowing them to perceive your perception. There's a real compassion in that! I came from an art school that would accuse me of being a certain way or doing a certain thing and it's taken me some time to realise how demotivating and limiting that can be to creativity.
    Stu (Australia)

  • @victoriaclutterbuck6162
    @victoriaclutterbuck6162 2 роки тому +1

    Hello Mark I am awed that you give so much time and thought and all your expertise for nothing. It is so generous!

  • @louielouie4187
    @louielouie4187 4 роки тому +2

    Mark you are really special man.
    My fiance watched a couple of your videos with me and she ordered a set of Geneva paints for me so im excited to get started thank you for all your teaching what a blessing.

  • @funlightfactory6031
    @funlightfactory6031 2 роки тому +1

    The private workshops aren't about what you teach or don't teach in your videos, it's the direct feedback and critiquing that is so profoundly valuable. Everyone has blindspots, and a mentor can help you see them.

  • @lisasmouter9868
    @lisasmouter9868 7 років тому +62

    Thanks, great video! I am a music teacher as well as an artist, and the same can be said of students learning a new piece of music-the mysterious parts we love we tend to play louder or more intensely, whereas a more mature musician knows how to hold back, maintain subtlety and let the listener in on the real beauty of it.

    • @davidsims5796
      @davidsims5796 6 років тому

      Lisa Smouter aww okay, that's nice. What kind of music do you play? Check out my artwork on Instagram and FB under Jason Sims

    • @northernhemisphere4906
      @northernhemisphere4906 4 роки тому

      @@davidsims5796 are you david or jason though?

  • @ambrosearts
    @ambrosearts 7 років тому

    So true....I have caught and fought myself doing that for 25 years but your emphasis on the mistake will help me in the future, as I have never heard anyone say that since I have never taken an art class in my life. I will hear your voice in the background.
    I always cautioned myself to paint or draw 'precisely what I see and not how I think it should be' for realism. If any friends asked me if I had any tips that is what I always shared with them. Just that. Since I am not very aware of how I do my art...I just do it through drive and determination.

  • @wiilsanosman3118
    @wiilsanosman3118 4 роки тому +1

    I'm 20 years of age. I have been painter since 2009 up to now and I agree with this painter. thank you for pointing out!

  • @Neosapien11
    @Neosapien11 7 років тому +133

    One of my teachers used to say "paint it how you see it, not how you think it is"

    • @MellowJelly
      @MellowJelly 6 років тому +2

      yep that's a way easier way to say it than this guy did in the whole video haha

    • @vcases
      @vcases 5 років тому +3

      The guy is absolutely right in general. There are painters who paints without using reference photo, which I always do. I found his advise useful for us. Try to paint without reference, you can learn the science of painting realism easily.

    • @ATINKERER
      @ATINKERER 5 років тому +1

      My first teacher said the same thing: "Paint what you see, not what you think you see".

    • @LordApocalyptica
      @LordApocalyptica 5 років тому

      @@ATINKERER ....was his name Scott Rispin? That's the exact phrasing he used. I always figured its probably a common phrase and idea and that he didn't coin it, but its weird to run into the *exact* wording in the wild for the first time.

    • @ATINKERER
      @ATINKERER 5 років тому

      @@LordApocalyptica I don't recall the name. He was a teacher in Brooklyn in the late 1970s or early 1980s.

  • @sujanithtottempudi2991
    @sujanithtottempudi2991 6 років тому

    Every word you said here ....is very awakening for me....who is far from you and can't take live classes. But, your website is bibilical in painting.....loads of teaching...thank you for such charity of Art. God bless you

  • @kristi1949
    @kristi1949 2 роки тому

    GREAT INSIGHT! Something I haven't heard other teachers articulate this way, but something absolutely imperative to the overall aesthetic of the painting and the emotion or feeling the painting evokes.

  • @michaelellsworth5645
    @michaelellsworth5645 4 роки тому

    I see that you have understanding beyond belief with painting n that's when you become a Master with Painting and you paint from the heart with knowledge and understanding..
    For example being able to turn the poodles head is clear example of your wisdom ..I hope I get to meet you someday Mr.Master of Art Mark

  • @jimmiesutton8468
    @jimmiesutton8468 6 років тому +12

    Sir: This was very well said! You stick to you principles and that makes for good teaching! thank you!

  • @stanmanmedia
    @stanmanmedia 2 роки тому

    Outstanding!! I've been painting for years, pretty much self taught. I don't follow your painstaking methods because it is not fun to me, and I'm not worried about such realism. I still watch your videos, subscribe etc because I know you're right. This one helped tremendously. Thanks very much for your wonderful detail to help us all!! You're a good dude.

  • @garysimmonds9636
    @garysimmonds9636 24 дні тому

    Extremely good point regarding which is more subtle. I'll take that on board and put that sign up.

  • @pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591
    @pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591 6 років тому +6

    I noticed that I was making my lines more visible today, and I watched your video about an hour later. I also noticed that I liked the exaggerated image just like you said. I must try to match the image more.

  • @ambrosearts
    @ambrosearts 5 років тому

    LOVE your videos so much....always an incredible experience. As a self taught portrait artist of thirty years, I discovered many of the things you mention along the way but some I am still perplexed over and not even sure how it transpires.....you confirm things and enlighten some things I am not even aware of....you are a master indeed but I doubt you would admit that.

  • @jeffhreid
    @jeffhreid 2 роки тому

    Excellent advice. I find this to be certainly true in my work, subtle is difficult.

  • @davidshimp5116
    @davidshimp5116 11 місяців тому

    That's such helpful advice and a timely reminder! Analyzing my latest portrait now, many of the weaknesses are caused by that exaggeration. Thank you!

  • @jtpaar1732
    @jtpaar1732 7 років тому +6

    Truly a great reminder no matter which medium we paint with!

  • @richardthemagician8991
    @richardthemagician8991 3 роки тому

    This is so true and something I'm currently working on with my own paintings. Thank you for articulating it. I realized after watching the video my tendency to add more contrast in my paintings than necessary I think it's because of my theatrical background. I'm an actor. I'm used to performing on stage. And on stage, I have to literally draw lines on my face otherwise it will look flat underneath all the lights. And I feel like I still have that habit of creating lines where they don't belong because I'm thinking of it in terms of where the viewer is standing. If they're standing farther away, a line might need to be stronger. But that's assuming the audience is fixed they are in the theater. If I make it more subtle as you are suggesting, the viewer of a painting can position themselves to where they see it correctly. Unless you're looking at something in a museum and you're forced to stand 20 feet back. But let's face it, that's not going to happen with my opinion for another three hundred years!

  • @claudinevega5980
    @claudinevega5980 6 років тому

    Yes I am guilty of over defining certain points I did make a color checker and it turned out great because I followed you instructions to the letter I am still having trouble with color and getting the right shade I am working on it Thanks so much for all you great information

  • @alibannister
    @alibannister 2 роки тому

    Thank you, Mark. I really appreciate your advice being so candid. I have huge faith in your method (just written myself a reminder on a piece of cardboard to keep near my easel). Thank you again, Ali

  • @Raeburnsart
    @Raeburnsart 5 років тому

    Mark Carder you are one of the best art teachers I know of who make in-depth discussion about all things painting/art. I notice some people make mention of "rambling" down below but to me, you are covering your subject so well that it instills in my head. I still repeat things you have said in your videos to others and to myself in description of what it is a painter is trying to achieve and the process and value of effective painting (and not just "painting" and hoping for the best)

  • @40bdg
    @40bdg 2 роки тому

    Great tip, this will definitely go on my wall. Thank you for your generousity!

  • @averymaples8472
    @averymaples8472 7 років тому

    Thank you so much for pointing this out. We ALL tend to do this. Bert Lindstrom said years ago that portraiture was the art of subtle seeing. I think all art is the art of subtle seeing and you just pointed it out.

  • @johnjunji8443
    @johnjunji8443 3 роки тому

    Love your channel very much indeed you taught me really valuable things about painting....THANK YOU!

  • @robertl6440
    @robertl6440 6 років тому

    Its important what he says. That touches a level of consciousness on the subject talked about.
    He expresses it to help people understand the differences about a particular point.
    Well said thank you.

  • @smgorden
    @smgorden 6 років тому

    I didn't want to like this advice, but it is good advice. I literally said to myself "But what if I like the exaggeration?", and you address it. I suppose I can abuse the knowledge better when I've trained up the eyes and the hands to match the subject. Great video!

  • @janetpoirier6196
    @janetpoirier6196 4 роки тому

    Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us I've learned a lot from you! I'm so grateful for people like you who don't ask for anything in return. You're becoming a rarity!

  • @ThomasJamesCiesielski
    @ThomasJamesCiesielski 7 років тому

    I laughed a little because you are so right... I do enjoy to over define and it is a mistake. Makes things not natural.. Thank you so much sir for everything you do for us. I been drawing all my life but i am very new to painting got only couple of years so i am still on bob ross style level. Thank you kindly i soak all the knowledge you share with us

  • @JamesChristopherHill
    @JamesChristopherHill 6 років тому

    Thank you for all of what you do for us out here trying to become better artists. I went to RCAD and studied 20 years ago, but now, I find myself really wanting to become a hell of a lot better than I am, hence I need the answers like the proper procedure to layer glazing and varnishing that seems to be a mystery whenever I ask various masters on how to varnish. So thank you!

  • @anitakhan9182
    @anitakhan9182 2 роки тому

    You are such a great teacher! Thank you so very much for taking the time to explain stuff in such detail. Your instructions are invaluable!

  • @satchelyork
    @satchelyork 2 роки тому

    People don't realize how good this advice is.

  • @tpakzone
    @tpakzone 7 років тому +1

    You talk clearly and seem to be a great teacher. I have subscribed. I only wish could benefit from
    Your live classes as I have many flaws not many people know how to fix. Love from the UK

  • @joseluisderivera465
    @joseluisderivera465 6 років тому +6

    Thanks Mark for sharing your master and advices, they really make me resonancy and helps me to keep focus in improve my painting skills as self trained realistic artist. I love all the videos i've seen up to now, it Is like having a teaching at the distance. Hope to take classes with you soon at site. Greetings from Mexico. We appreciate you to share all your knowledge and tips, thank you!!!

  • @louiseryley6936
    @louiseryley6936 6 років тому

    Thanks Mark, what a difference it makes to my work. I really appreciate your advice.

  • @mikep6843
    @mikep6843 3 роки тому

    I really do respect, and enjoy, your depth of knowledge, your comprehension and precise understanding of even the smallest nuances! Thank you so very much

  • @marthasierra7801
    @marthasierra7801 4 роки тому

    Love your classes and comments.....thanks.....👏🙏🏻

  • @DanielL143
    @DanielL143 3 роки тому

    Best most generous art teacher on the internet (all subtlety removed from this comment).

  • @jedhaywood9594
    @jedhaywood9594 7 років тому

    this is a great point hes making about over defining lines, just because you know the lines are there doesn't mean you should paint them in unnecessarily, keep the abstraction people

  • @thomascleveland
    @thomascleveland 7 років тому +37

    Great thoughts. You can probably skip to 6:00 where he arrives at his point.

    • @lluhu
      @lluhu 4 роки тому

      Yes, many thanks!

  • @brucefrazeur3172
    @brucefrazeur3172 7 років тому +2

    Thank you Mark, I soon will be studying your method. I've been Watching your vidios for some time and am excited every time I listen.

  • @annadimezza4174
    @annadimezza4174 7 років тому

    I enjoy watching your videos pretty much every morning. Such a great and generous teacher. Thank you!

  • @MellowWind
    @MellowWind 3 роки тому

    Absolutely so. Thanks, Mark.

  • @gary7466
    @gary7466 5 років тому

    Brilliant videos; really good instructional web site. Inspiring. Only this morning I painted a building and exaggerated its dimensions. I didn't mind. Yes, you like it. But yes, it's kind of wrong when you think about it critically. Thank you, Mark. I'd buy your paints. Checking them out now.

  • @mariejacobs9721
    @mariejacobs9721 2 роки тому

    Excellent advice, thank you 🌷

  • @IFRSKIES
    @IFRSKIES 6 років тому

    Very good advice Mark. I also remember you mentioning this in the painting of the jar of oil with the subtle lines in the plate. Thanks

  • @JennieFur47
    @JennieFur47 7 років тому +2

    Yes! So helpful! Thank you for this advice!

  • @Ebruskaya
    @Ebruskaya 6 років тому

    Great advice. Thanks very much for sharing your knowledge and experience.

  • @starforged
    @starforged 3 роки тому

    Thank you for all your help.

  • @PeterQuentercrimsonbamboo
    @PeterQuentercrimsonbamboo 7 років тому +4

    👍👍👍
    sounds interesting -
    Thank you muchly!! Will see how I can incorporate this advice with watercolour and graphite drawings, too !

  • @jacksutherland8749
    @jacksutherland8749 4 роки тому

    Thanks for your leadership. I'm stumbling along in my art and trying to improve my understanding but its been a long off and on effort. Its easy to get discouraged with so many excellent artist in the market. I have made some encouraging improvements but have a way to go. I'll be more diligent to view your videos help continue to improve. Hope all is well for you and your family.

  • @geoffhalstead1811
    @geoffhalstead1811 3 роки тому

    I paint 75-120mm (3” to 4.5”) figurines using oils to get mine to look as realistic as possible, all due to the subtle ability to blend colours.
    Many many times I cringe/shudder seeing the results of so called experts, also using oils, exaggerate shadows and highlights to such a degree that their figurines look more like puppets and so unrealistic that I laugh and shake my head in amazement.
    When I first started I did try other mediums, BUT the minute I switched to oils the difference was like chalk and cheese and blending colours became easy to the point of being rediculous🤗
    I’m now going to try your colour wheel, thanks for posting, as I have far too many colours and get totally lost on occasion.

  • @patlewis2067
    @patlewis2067 7 років тому +3

    Thank you so much for your videos and advice, I have learned alot. This video is spot on, And I warch alot of the ones on process and theory over and over. Please keep them coming!

    • @MKLGRMFineArt
      @MKLGRMFineArt 7 років тому

      Pat Lewis agreed :) I also love watching and hearing his videos while I paint and draw...he is a great instructor :)

    • @daphnekent6171
      @daphnekent6171 6 років тому

      Pat Lewis f

  • @38lildee
    @38lildee 4 роки тому

    I Love your video s. Thank you for sharing your talent.

  • @bryanmartin9420
    @bryanmartin9420 3 роки тому

    Thanks again for all your help

  • @shinsha3510
    @shinsha3510 7 років тому +1

    Absolutely perfect advice. Thank you.

  • @danfe9064
    @danfe9064 3 роки тому

    So thankful for your videos! 😊

  • @wesleyhuffmaster1371
    @wesleyhuffmaster1371 6 років тому

    Very practical advice -gonna bookmark this. Thank you!

  • @markhogan77
    @markhogan77 6 років тому

    I thought you where spot on, your widom and passion for teaching others is great - thanks Mark

  • @lisalynch629
    @lisalynch629 2 роки тому

    Thankyou for your generosity

  • @artriot4758
    @artriot4758 7 років тому

    Thank you for taking the time to to do these thoughtful videos. It's much appreciated.

  • @clownpocket
    @clownpocket 7 років тому

    I can see it would be the difference between an excellent painting and a more childlike one.
    Great video.

  • @maynardmiller293
    @maynardmiller293 7 років тому

    Very good talk and a good visual of the lost edge of the vase into the background. After watching Mark's presentation it reminded me of The late 60's early 70's Superrealism, Hyperrealism, Photorealism works. Although very real looking there seems to be something missing. After a short search it seems that Wikipedia explains "Textures, surfaces, lighting effects, and shadows appear clearer and more distinct than the reference photo or even the actual subject itself.[11]" Not what we are about,...At All !...

  • @DantheArtMan
    @DantheArtMan 7 років тому +20

    Thanks, Mark! you described MY most common mistake PERFECTLY! (Actually, I've made quite a bit of progress in this respect in the past year or two, so I HOPE it's my EX-most common mistake!)

  • @patrickm1268
    @patrickm1268 7 років тому

    Thanks Mark. As always, this is a very helpful video and your generosity in sharing your skills is appreciated.

  • @elsef6798
    @elsef6798 7 років тому

    Thank you so much for this expert advice. I enjoy all your videos - they heighten my ability as well as my joy of painting.

  • @Ralphsearsart
    @Ralphsearsart 3 роки тому

    I made the sign because I know you are correct I do that and need to be more mindful. Thank you for sign!

  • @donmoore9605
    @donmoore9605 7 років тому

    Mark - Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think what you are talking about is sfumato which Da Vinci used to great effect. The smudging of painted lines with the palm of the hand was his solution.

  • @PastaDNA
    @PastaDNA 7 років тому

    Thank you Mark.... You work is, well, for me jaw dropping. I'm a self teaching hobbyist. I started doing some portraits a year or two ago with some success. I'm working in colored pencil right now but this video made me stop in my tracks. I have noticed during the past two portraits that my satisfaction level decreased the more I reached the end. In other words, I was more satisfied when they were more "subtle" and "less done" - I need to think about this now. And I might have to start this most recent portrait over.... I want to paint in oil. I believe that oil portraits is the epitome for artists, art followers and admirers. I plan to take your course when I retire in the near future. Nevertheless, thank you.

  • @rogermanley9017
    @rogermanley9017 5 місяців тому

    Great videos, and advice!

  • @everettwhite9874
    @everettwhite9874 7 років тому

    Mark I really like the way you explain how to create accurate paintings and how to follow a system that works.
    I wish I could take classes from you.
    Thanks man for sharing your knowledge and answering questions that I've had even as I'm watching a video for the first time; that is awesome.
    Best Wishes.

  • @gekkekensa
    @gekkekensa 7 років тому

    Recently started painting and drawing again( after about 15 years) love your vids so im a new subbie !

  • @PrototypeScope
    @PrototypeScope 6 років тому

    Thanks for the video and your teachings.

  • @subasshrestha5806
    @subasshrestha5806 6 років тому

    love both your art and lessons.

  • @WaSiLLy63
    @WaSiLLy63 7 років тому

    You made a good point, Mark. Thank you.

  • @1974gladiateur
    @1974gladiateur 7 років тому

    Thanks Mark. I will do it for sure.

  • @ying2915
    @ying2915 4 роки тому

    This is a great advice! Thank you!

  • @Rfy123
    @Rfy123 6 років тому

    It’s a perfect and inspirational video, im so thankful to you. Thanks!

  • @BrandonWorkshop
    @BrandonWorkshop 5 років тому

    OMG, so true!! Always a problem for me, thanks for solidifying this issue

  • @JB007SEXY
    @JB007SEXY 7 років тому +13

    I would really like to see some finished student work say at the end of the year GALLERY SET UP.;-)

  • @jessewaughcom
    @jessewaughcom 7 років тому +2

    This is great advice. I always think of Holman Hunt paintings as a prime example of everything being too strongly focused and too brightly colored - there’s no hierarchy of focus or subtlety.

    • @callipygous8328
      @callipygous8328 3 роки тому

      Holman Hunts work is highly stylized, and not a realism based painting style. Look at his work and see the exaggerated forms, it was purposefully done. A mistake of people is that they mistake some masters style for misrepresentation which in a way style is but it is purposely done so.

  • @LillenArt2
    @LillenArt2 7 років тому +4

    I have no subtlety. :( I'm working on my colors and when drawing, I tend to overdo curves. I guessing being aware of it at the very least is a good thing. I'll check the work flow.

  • @stevenallan6515
    @stevenallan6515 3 роки тому

    You Rock. Thanks again Mark.

  • @leandroh00
    @leandroh00 7 років тому

    I agree. My students do the same: instead of painting what they see, they paint what they think they see.
    An example is when you have a bottle of wine in the scene: a tendency is to paint the wine with dark red, or to make a purple color instead of painting in black, which is the actual color that is in the scene.
    It is an exercise in ignoring the mental trick of how we know things and believe more in what our eyes are seeing.

  • @tinomendoza7045
    @tinomendoza7045 7 років тому +9

    Thank you so much foe these videos. I know for me this is a huge problem especially when i try to paint portraits. I'll get impatient with the process and so I'll take shortcuts with shadows and highlight and paint them to how i think they look good as oppose to what is realistically correct.

  • @davidgeister
    @davidgeister 3 роки тому

    Once again, great advice.

  • @framerw47
    @framerw47 7 років тому

    Thank you Mark, for these fabulous videos! Even though I'll never be a good artist due to colorblindness, I love to paint and I do paint as much as I can. Your videos have helped me more than I can tell you and I really enjoy watching. 👍👍

    • @yticivam
      @yticivam 7 років тому

      Michael Worthington it would be interesting I think. We get to see how you see the world, which is exactly why ppl follow artists anyway. Tonal value is more important, if you have depth perception, you're good. The world needs your art :)

  • @rodrigomartinsdemedeiros2966
    @rodrigomartinsdemedeiros2966 5 років тому +1

    That was very helpful...Thank you !!

  • @Yatukih_001
    @Yatukih_001 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for the upload! Amazing good advise given here!!!!!

  • @pavoniaarts2179
    @pavoniaarts2179 7 років тому

    Thanks for this video, I am sure this will help me improve!

  • @gopicamanethe3600
    @gopicamanethe3600 5 років тому

    Thank you for your great tips...

  • @faithmarielake592
    @faithmarielake592 4 роки тому

    I really enjoy your videos

  • @lovelycorinne
    @lovelycorinne 5 років тому

    I've done many pieces with different paint. People always love the ones I do with Geneva more. If I could use one word for you, your brand, the videos it would be FLOW. :)

  • @tlynn4239
    @tlynn4239 6 років тому

    Beautifully explained

  • @guloguloguy
    @guloguloguy 6 років тому +6

    ....Perhaps this might seem out of place, but, hopefully most people can relate to it: IMHO: ....Sculpting/Painting/Drawing should be approached like "sex", .....very carefully, and slowly, and perceptively, even if One wants to rush into it with sudden recklessness. One must strive to learn to be observant, and to acknowledge the subtleties in the "other" (subject), and to absorb, enjoy, and savor it, well, down to the most minute details!

  • @ayodeeray
    @ayodeeray 7 років тому

    Thanks for your videos they are amazing

  • @migusportratt8237
    @migusportratt8237 7 років тому +1

    I might be one of those loving the lines 😊I most definitely wont do that anymore or try to think about it at least thank you 🤗