Smith Chassis Cantilever Suspension

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @canada2241
    @canada2241 3 роки тому +12

    If this was 10 years ago and I'm just seeing this now......what's it look like fully finished????

  • @966396631
    @966396631 3 роки тому +2

    As Leno would say, “kinetic art.” Beautiful. Congratulations!

  • @jomarz1828
    @jomarz1828 3 роки тому +4

    Is good to have some springs left so in case of a problem the vehicle wouldn't collapse...

  • @janjanjohari
    @janjanjohari 12 років тому +3

    I was amazed with the technology of today and change so quickly, thank you

  • @greatisknowisnorm50
    @greatisknowisnorm50 Рік тому

    Damn! Nice rod suspension system design 💯💯💯💯
    It's dope and cool👌👌👌

  • @billholland9366
    @billholland9366 3 роки тому +2

    So is this for a car? When the bags inflate, they're going to come through the rear floor?

  • @roberthumphries2730
    @roberthumphries2730 3 роки тому +1

    Do you have problems with pinion angle change?

  • @ernie3nell
    @ernie3nell 7 років тому +1

    Clean, Clean install, hopefully the articulation wont be a problem, had that myself, high drives are a pain to get into without it. Great job.

  • @EpicToadRage
    @EpicToadRage 3 роки тому +1

    Hit a big bump and snap the welds off that "tab" on the frame the airbag is sitting on...

  • @kreightivemetal
    @kreightivemetal 12 років тому

    Do you hear any binding up? Nope, thats a badass setup right there ! This is what cool looks like kids . . .

  • @mannyasaptransport
    @mannyasaptransport 3 роки тому

    Love the design 👌, I'm wondering how much weight can you put on the truck for that bar across can hold!?

    • @jwesten1000
      @jwesten1000 Рік тому

      That depends on the airbags rating.

  • @brokentapedeck
    @brokentapedeck 11 років тому

    it depends on the set up and products used. usually its just like having a tire blow out. it pops you slow down n pull over on the side of the road.

  • @sylwio33
    @sylwio33 4 роки тому

    Ogólnie super pomysł, ale chyba dostrzegam pewien problem z pochyleniem się mostu przy podnoszeniu ramy.
    Wał napędowy będzie zbyt nisko od ziemi, co może spowodować na przykład ocieranie o asfalt?

  • @kimjaniszeski498
    @kimjaniszeski498 3 роки тому

    Nice design.. where is the exhaust pipes going to run though?

  • @joblessalex
    @joblessalex 4 роки тому +8

    This is exactly what I was looking for. Going to build my dream car since no one makes it.

  • @normandiebryant6989
    @normandiebryant6989 4 роки тому

    Is this some sort of Lo-Rider after-market kit for American cars? No-one else would bother with some sort of height-control on a live rear axle. If it's supposed to be "new and innovative", I'd suggest you look at the 1955 Citroen DS, which had hydropneumatic self-levelling and height-adjustable all-independent suspension, with centrepoint steering geometry so you could brake in a straight line with a front blow-out with no hands on the wheel. And, for James Merkel, the ground clearance WAS adjustable from 2" to 8" front and 2" to 9" rear.

    • @smithchassis
      @smithchassis  3 роки тому

      Nothing was implied for this to be the first vehicle with adjustable suspension. It put a new spin on true cantilever suspension. In your world, from your point of view, yes, it would be called a lowrider.
      We use air and hydraulic suspension to lower and raise vehicles both for leisure, commercial and handicapped use.

  • @sick66caddy
    @sick66caddy 12 років тому

    Thats a clean and sick bag system design and lay out.

  • @sean7058
    @sean7058 3 роки тому +1

    How did you get those scooter tires to do that

  • @sergiubasoc6451
    @sergiubasoc6451 4 роки тому +6

    the weight is split between air bags and directly on the axle, how about vibration and the welded parts?

    • @xavierrodriguez2463
      @xavierrodriguez2463 3 роки тому +1

      It's low rider suspension what can you expect

    • @mackasmachineschannel3522
      @mackasmachineschannel3522 3 роки тому +1

      Well there are rubber bushings so I would expect some sort of damper

    • @deannederhoff
      @deannederhoff 3 роки тому

      @@mackasmachineschannel3522 they use cantilever suspension in race cars so what would be the difference

  • @tonyzaozirny4395
    @tonyzaozirny4395 2 роки тому

    Do you make after market frames for square body gmc trucks, that can handle,horsepower

  • @jeffsmith380
    @jeffsmith380 3 роки тому +1

    I think the cross beam is a little light and will be the weak point. Still like it lots though

    • @smithchassis
      @smithchassis  3 роки тому +2

      The cross beam is built stronger than 99 percent of most vehicles on the road. 1 1/2 quarter wall DOM.

  • @danielosmon
    @danielosmon 3 роки тому

    Beautiful work

  • @TboneDuggins
    @TboneDuggins 2 роки тому

    Looks like you're going to have quite a change in pinion angle

  • @Frozensyco
    @Frozensyco 10 років тому

    SOME CRAZY TRAVEL THERE BRO. OMG LOL very nice once i get another truck i'm gonna put a quick system on it with s body drop, then down the line i'll go all out full truck customization.

  • @AtomicAdi99
    @AtomicAdi99 3 роки тому

    Will That be Stable at High Speeds Cornering

  • @halleffect1
    @halleffect1 11 років тому +8

    thanks for taking the time to post this, really innovative design.
    one thing- it looks like the entire load transfers to the center of the lower links.. any issue with bending?

  • @mitchwheeler7563
    @mitchwheeler7563 8 років тому +1

    That's a sick set up I can't wait to get mine done but I don't know how I want to do the link system

  • @jakemartin4305
    @jakemartin4305 3 роки тому +1

    Love the design, would only recommend installing bump stops on axle as well just as a peace of mind lol don't wanna come down on that frame or that axle too hard

    • @vermiciousknid5840
      @vermiciousknid5840 3 роки тому

      A lot of air bags have built in bump stops. As long as you build everything to the correct tolerance, you shouldn't have anything hitting. The front & rear bags on my truck have internal bump stops & I have adjustable speed control on my exhaust valves which helps a lot with cushioning bottoming out.

  • @tommyr95
    @tommyr95 10 років тому +3

    How well does the suspension articulate? Looks rather restrictive with regard to body roll/movement. Looks nice, though...

    • @nikki2708
      @nikki2708 4 роки тому

      it is probably the best u ever saw

    • @tommyr95
      @tommyr95 4 роки тому

      @@nikki2708 and you're basing that on what, exactly?

    • @nikki2708
      @nikki2708 4 роки тому

      Because u she just look at it more and realize

    • @tommyr95
      @tommyr95 4 роки тому

      @@nikki2708 so you can't answer the question. That's pretty much what I figured. :)

  • @nestrac
    @nestrac 12 років тому

    The air bellow works as a shock absorber AND as the suspension

  • @hafizshirazi8722
    @hafizshirazi8722 4 роки тому

    Very cool! And how did you decide with the cardan? In a low position, it will definitely interfere!

  • @kccool75
    @kccool75 12 років тому +1

    question i noticed the angle of the rear differential changing as your aired up the shocks would that cause problems with the drive shaft or not

  • @quentinharris58
    @quentinharris58 11 років тому

    Do u guys just build mini truck chassis? If not im looking too get in the auto cross scene with my 78' chevy monte carlo

  • @marculiana4816
    @marculiana4816 3 роки тому

    masterpiece , masterwork

  • @danieljoseph2428
    @danieljoseph2428 6 років тому

    Cool design but How would that system fit under the floor pan is what I want to know? Who needs a back seat right?

  • @plasmaguy5
    @plasmaguy5 3 роки тому

    Art work in the Best

  • @BruceBusby
    @BruceBusby 8 років тому +1

    Is it OK that the wheelbase changes so drastically with travel? Longer link arms would minimize this.

    • @ernie3nell
      @ernie3nell 7 років тому

      Wont be a problem, the distance changes even in stock configurations, but at a lot less than this. The input yoke on the drive shaft is designed to "lengthen" itself with up and down travel. Also you wont always have it at that level.

  • @502MS
    @502MS 13 років тому

    He already said it won't go that high with the frame on it...very nice fab work

  • @esdras29
    @esdras29 11 років тому

    I SEE THE TOP LINKS ARE TO SHORT ON THE 4 LINK,THE DRIVELINE ANGLE LOOKS OFF

  • @minkodima
    @minkodima 7 років тому

    How about propellershaft? in lowest position there will be obstacle

  • @hnoobsho
    @hnoobsho 7 років тому

    Is this meant to adjust ride height? Any other use seems like it wouldn't last a day.

    • @robertatwood2503
      @robertatwood2503 7 років тому

      Chuck Norris have you ever really examine the air suspension under a Class 8 tractor? I think an examination would definitely change your mind

    • @sailorsibby
      @sailorsibby 7 років тому

      Cesare

  • @pauls466
    @pauls466 11 років тому +15

    nice! realy! but dosent the diff angle moves the wrong way?

    • @ernie3nell
      @ernie3nell 7 років тому +1

      Yes, but normally you would not be driving long distances at the max height. The pinion angle needs to be a couple degrees nose down anyway.

  • @dave5833
    @dave5833 4 роки тому

    Is this the Smith Chassis in Kentucky?

    • @smithchassis
      @smithchassis  3 роки тому

      Yes Dave. its us.

    • @dave5833
      @dave5833 3 роки тому

      @@smithchassis any plans of doing a UA-cam of our BelAir?

  • @yellofantomas
    @yellofantomas 3 роки тому +1

    Полный кайф когда смотришь на людей с умелыми руками👍

  • @СарварНарзикулов
    @СарварНарзикулов 3 роки тому

    How much does it cost?

  • @theonesketch
    @theonesketch 12 років тому

    Insane travel. whats the purpose of the dogbone link on only one bag?

    • @serrata
      @serrata 8 років тому

      I can tell it's on both. look for the shiny nut right above the airbag.

    • @jwesten1000
      @jwesten1000 Рік тому

      I will go back and look, is it a pan hard bar?

  • @sicks6six
    @sicks6six 3 роки тому

    Reminds me of my Citroen BX I had 30 years back. But this one is on steroids. Air suspension gives a rantasticly smooth travel. Potholes just get eaten up.

  • @scrambler350
    @scrambler350 10 років тому

    Impressive design, thanks for uploading.

  • @leegaspard224
    @leegaspard224 8 років тому +1

    What size is that frame 2x4?

  • @NavinKumar-ge1kz
    @NavinKumar-ge1kz 3 роки тому

    What's system price ?

  • @mikemchaney1003
    @mikemchaney1003 7 років тому +1

    Nice design intent of the arms, pinion angles are destroyed though.

  • @unknown_stranger
    @unknown_stranger 6 років тому +5

    ого, большое расстояние! а где амортизаторы?

    • @111tier
      @111tier 6 років тому

      Там же куда и вкачивают воздух! ))) Это и есть амортизация только она воздушная. В зависимости от нагрузок она будет докачивать и наоборот выкачивать воздух из этих подушек. Так устроена амортизация больших туристических автобусов, например TATRA(от Mersedess)

    • @Чобель
      @Чобель 6 років тому +8

      @@111tier
      Подушки - это вместо пружин. А где аммортизаторы?

    • @ХушИскандаров
      @ХушИскандаров 4 роки тому +1

      Пневма називается это и пуржина и аморт два в одном

    • @unknown_stranger
      @unknown_stranger 4 роки тому +1

      @@111tier это пружына воздушная. А не амортизатор. Амортизатор замедляет скорость движения . А пружина ничего не спмедляет. Как сжалать так и расжалась.

    • @ПлемянникПутина
      @ПлемянникПутина 4 роки тому

      @@111tier ваня ну вот объясни мне, зачем отвечать на вопрос в котором у тебя минусовые познания?

  • @garymatsuo6025
    @garymatsuo6025 3 роки тому

    the lower link is not able to carry the weight.

  • @ofantasticomundodetimbas
    @ofantasticomundodetimbas 6 років тому

    how much cost to do that in a 2003 f150 harley davidson??

    • @sterlingarcher8441
      @sterlingarcher8441 5 років тому

      Wtf is actually harley on your truck except stickers that you overpaid for? It is a ford. Period. No "special" engineering on any part..

  • @TransAmDrifter
    @TransAmDrifter 3 роки тому

    It will bend where the tiny pipe is and the frame will twist because air bags generate torque. Probably the bolts where suspension arms are located will snap after few years. Buy Yourself a book on suspension designing and re-learn everything You know.

  • @rockcrusher7361
    @rockcrusher7361 8 років тому

    rilly slick, very nice consecpt, A+

  • @RickyAitken
    @RickyAitken 13 років тому

    Will this work for side to side? "airing up only one bag".

  • @gregrichards8449
    @gregrichards8449 6 років тому

    ya whats up with ujoint angle/yolk

  • @Alex.1987.
    @Alex.1987. 12 років тому

    верхние тяги к мосту располежены под углом для предотвращения смещения моста в сторону??

  • @alexrod71497
    @alexrod71497 11 років тому +1

    How much for a chasis like this one?

  • @thtsjon4u
    @thtsjon4u 12 років тому

    kinda looks like the wheels will go backwards relative of the bed...if it was ever put on.

  • @daleolson3506
    @daleolson3506 5 років тому

    I think the bag arm is going to tear the tube apart.

  • @Yourbikeclinic
    @Yourbikeclinic 4 роки тому

    How much one piec

  • @MatthewScott
    @MatthewScott 6 років тому

    Holy pinion angle Batman!

    • @smithchassis
      @smithchassis  3 роки тому

      Yea it got really bad there at the end, Lol. That was at 18 inches of lift. It never would have lifted that far, but the bar length was changed to fix.

  • @AntonioSanchez-gt9co
    @AntonioSanchez-gt9co Рік тому

    Manos abiles,e ingenioso artífice,que te duran los de la general motors company!!!!!felicidades y adelante con ésas modificaciones ,esperando que sean de la misma calidad y manufactura también la carroseria,*.desde mi México"*lindo y querido...

  • @619russman
    @619russman 12 років тому

    whats it like riding on a canti set up?

  • @TropicBreezeRealty
    @TropicBreezeRealty 6 років тому

    Whats the ride quality like?

  • @kandykoated
    @kandykoated 12 років тому

    Great setup guys. Looks and works killer. You guys selling this setup?

  • @TheYTCable
    @TheYTCable 9 років тому +5

    Pump up the jam... Pump it up!

  • @daleolson3506
    @daleolson3506 4 роки тому

    I don't think the cross pipe is Evan close to being heavy enough to handle the loads. In my opinion

  • @walker-snow
    @walker-snow 2 роки тому

    Looks like an ancient AnyLevelLift

  • @Illyrian-Chicago
    @Illyrian-Chicago 5 років тому

    its amazing great work 👌

  • @63rambler65lincon
    @63rambler65lincon 10 років тому

    what is the overall change in ride height?

  • @BagemRuStudio-Trailers
    @BagemRuStudio-Trailers 5 років тому +5

    Шикардос

  • @mr5litre304
    @mr5litre304 13 років тому

    @KeithWasHere1 They look like Firestones maybe?

  • @generalprincipeconejo1088
    @generalprincipeconejo1088 4 роки тому

    This is for lowriders?

  • @wyawn
    @wyawn 3 роки тому

    Looks like it would be infinitely stiff in roll.

  • @jamesmerkel9442
    @jamesmerkel9442 4 роки тому

    I want the Jeep ppl car to eventually hve a suspension that can range from 2" of lift to 4 or even 6" of lift. On road vs off road safer ride & still plenty of clearance what ever tires u decide to run & beefy control arms that can allow the travel yet keep the geometry needed to hve full control. This seems like the perfect solution.

    • @smithchassis
      @smithchassis  3 роки тому

      There are alot of rock crawlers that use adjustable suspension.
      Were building a 79 Bronco now that has big Danas and Adjustable suspension (airride)

  • @usbserverchile
    @usbserverchile 10 років тому +1

    Hermoso.
    Gracias por el vídeo amigo mio...
    Saludos desde viña del mar Chile...

  • @sunnyiskaiser
    @sunnyiskaiser 8 років тому +1

    Does It need shockabsorber?

    • @robertatwood2503
      @robertatwood2503 7 років тому

      SEON yes that's the term air spring not air shock however they do make an air strut and you want to talk about one hell of a ride man that stuff is smooth

  • @Roby51423
    @Roby51423 12 років тому

    that is just beautiful nice job

  • @AttainingExcellence1
    @AttainingExcellence1 6 років тому

    Can doing with drive shaft

  • @blevomust
    @blevomust 12 років тому

    someone did a great job but wheres the SHOCKS at ?

  • @cjc7232
    @cjc7232 13 років тому

    Nice Thats A Sick Setup

  • @cage66
    @cage66 12 років тому

    Awesome setup.

  • @summerjetset
    @summerjetset 10 років тому

    thats fucking kewl, could look at that fab work all day

  • @guinhynjuh5798
    @guinhynjuh5798 10 років тому

    Lower jet thrust bent. W- shaped transverse tube too thin. Support under the cushions need to do on a common platform.

  • @sjm98126
    @sjm98126 3 роки тому

    that crossmember is gonna break if that thing actually gets driven. cool concept tho.

    • @smithchassis
      @smithchassis  3 роки тому

      how do you figure?

    • @sjm98126
      @sjm98126 3 роки тому

      @@smithchassis you have a single piece of tubing supporting the entire suspension with no gusseting or reinforcement... and not only that, its taking force from the weight of the truck, which is pulling upward on the bar at lift. At the same time you have a 4 link bar on there, which serves thee purpose not only of centering the axle, but of controlling axle wrap, which is a torsional force that is going to be applied to that bar on acceleration, and the stress points are within a few inches of eachother. There is also a certain amount of torsion put on the bar from the cantilever system, Albeit, it is largely reduced by the links you have, which keep the top plates in line.. But unless every angle is PERFECT, there will still be some residual torsion going on there... The suspension is literally going to try to tear that bar to pieces under hard acceleration. This setup will work great if all you ever plan on doing is driving on and off the trailer, but if you're trying to build something that will withstand daily driving,.. this isn't gonna last, especially if you plan on putting any power to that axle.

    • @smithchassis
      @smithchassis  3 роки тому

      I understand what youre seeing from your point of view, and you arent completely wrong. We over build things, and this was in the design stage. The tube itself is 1.5” DOM .25 wall, and it acts solely as a pivot point. It bears some weight but the weight is spread out over the bag mount, the pivot point and the upper bar.
      There were also more crossmembers added afterward.
      Ill be updating this more often, check us out facebook/smithchassis. also on IG.
      Thanks for commenting!

  • @danielhunziker805
    @danielhunziker805 11 років тому

    Can this set up be put on a blazer?

  • @AndrewPhillipsqualityassurance
    @AndrewPhillipsqualityassurance 9 років тому

    where yall located?

  • @jerzzzeyful
    @jerzzzeyful 6 років тому

    theres this thing called pinion angle geometry you jave to keep all the way thru the lift.. guess its back to the drawing board

    • @smithchassis
      @smithchassis  3 роки тому

      the pinion angle started going awry at about 15 inches of lift and got worse from there. It never would have used that much lift, but the geometry was corrected.

  • @XaLi_GaLi
    @XaLi_GaLi 4 роки тому +1

    Гениальная кинематика! Жаль, туда почти невозможно установить амортизаторы.

    • @XaLi_GaLi
      @XaLi_GaLi 4 роки тому

      ...

    • @ПавелКостерин-к6т
      @ПавелКостерин-к6т 4 роки тому

      Халигали надо как у уазика старого,рычажные

    • @ЕвгенийАврамов-ч3о
      @ЕвгенийАврамов-ч3о 4 роки тому

      а то, что нижний рычаг пополам сломает на первой кочк никого не смущает?

    • @XaLi_GaLi
      @XaLi_GaLi 4 роки тому

      @@ЕвгенийАврамов-ч3о да какие там кочки, это ж для понторезки лоурайдера всё придумано, они брюхом любят ползать.
      им слово практичность чуждо)) я говорил лишь об уникальности схемы, ничего боле ...

    • @XaLi_GaLi
      @XaLi_GaLi 4 роки тому

      @@ПавелКостерин-к6т а ничего что там тупо рессоры и одна поперечная тага?! где ж ты там рычаги нашёл? 😱

  • @rallydogmakes3861
    @rallydogmakes3861 4 роки тому +1

    I will use this on my truck thank you (profile pic)

  • @maddhatter1250
    @maddhatter1250 11 років тому

    What's the ratio of those levers? Like 1.5:1? I'm just curious why you set them up that way since I've never seen a setup like this on any car. Also, those rolled tubing lower bag mounts are trick - this whole setup sort of blows my mind.

  • @Mikeynissan69
    @Mikeynissan69 11 років тому

    Looks like the bags may drag

  • @gdog-wk5ww
    @gdog-wk5ww 8 років тому +6

    these are nice to look at but not good for the road.

    • @robertatwood2503
      @robertatwood2503 7 років тому +1

      big scott you going to have to defend yourself on that statement why do you believe this sort of suspension wouldn't be good for road travel

  • @chipwerbeski
    @chipwerbeski 13 років тому

    hi there. do you have the measurements for this setup?

  • @2876alejandro
    @2876alejandro 10 років тому

    y cual es el mistero ?????

  • @FlyWyteGuy83
    @FlyWyteGuy83 11 років тому

    Where is this shop I want to bring my truck.?

  • @MatheusFranca_o
    @MatheusFranca_o 7 років тому

    e o diferencial ?